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Detailed below are the Teams that have been entered 
for Tour 1.
If your Team is not on the list and should be, please
get in touch with me without delay. 


Skunks
Northern Roses
Phat'eds
L.S.I
Sublime
GB Juniors
Warwick Bears
Leicester Hustlers
Jedi Children
Mohawk MWNCI Magic
Strange Blue
Smash and Grab
Mild Mannered Janitors
Red
Whey!
Slipdisc
Fluid Druids
Flyght Club
LeedsLeedsLeeds
Hammerage
Teamshark
Un Poco Loco
Fever
Chevron Action Flash
Point Blank
Headrush
Clapham Ultimate 1
Clapham Ultimate 2
Blue Arse Flies Open
Blue Arse Flies Mixed
Fusion 1
Fusion 2

Cheers

Matt








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Dear All

Just to say Gaia are selling half-price Strike Cleats on their website 
($42.50+9.50 packing).  Given the difficulty of getting decent cleats over 
here, I was wondering whether these were any good.  Anybody tried them?  I 
guess there's import tax on them too but don't know how much.

Ed Brooke

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I wear Gaia cleats and they are excellent with 2 caveats:

1. The leather stretches a LOT. Buy at LEAST 1 size smaller
than you think.

2. The insole moves a lot (possibly because my foot moves
because I did not follow the advice in point 1) but if you
add a sorbothane and glue it down, then you have possibly
the most comfortable ultimate shoe ever.

Also, you are supporting a good bunch of canadian boys.

Go on, you know it makes sense!

Batman


PS Indoor zone is the single most boring play in ultimate.
If you can't ban the whole concept of playing indoors, then
maybe just ban the zone.

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Make sure you get a number of opinions ... different players have different 
style of play ... some rely on speed alone to outrun their opponents ... 
others (like myself) prefer to fake and cut to outwit their opponents ... 
different styles of play require different styles of cleat ... I personally 
don't like the Gaia cleats as the cleats don't go far enough to the outsides 
of the sole to allow a decent fake without risking a turned ankle ...

Try to borrow a pair before you buy ... just to try them out ... if you 
can't do that ... just consider how you play ...

My opinion is that Gaia are good for going fast in a straight line ...

Best wishes ... Helen


From: "Batty, Ian (IBAT)" <IBAT@chevron.com>
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Gaia Cleats
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:21:54 -0800

I wear Gaia cleats and they are excellent with 2 caveats:

1. The leather stretches a LOT. Buy at LEAST 1 size smaller
than you think.

2. The insole moves a lot (possibly because my foot moves
because I did not follow the advice in point 1) but if you
add a sorbothane and glue it down, then you have possibly
the most comfortable ultimate shoe ever.

Also, you are supporting a good bunch of canadian boys.

Go on, you know it makes sense!

Batman


PS Indoor zone is the single most boring play in ultimate.
If you can't ban the whole concept of playing indoors, then
maybe just ban the zone.

********************************************************
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Chevron Canada Resources
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You can now order through the European Gaia contact.
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I love my Gaia boots, but first I got the leather ones and after a few winter
practices they fell apart! Gaia replaced them and said that the synthetic ones
might be better if you're likely to be playing in wet weather unless you're
ultra careful about drying them.

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>===== Original Message From "Ed Brooke" <ed_brooke@hotmail.com> =====
>Dear All
>
>Just to say Gaia are selling half-price Strike Cleats on their website
>($42.50+9.50 packing).  Given the difficulty of getting decent cleats over
>here, I was wondering whether these were any good.  Anybody tried them?  I
>guess there's import tax on them too but don't know how much.
>
>Ed Brooke
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Is anyone from the Colchester area going to Tour 1 please? Can you take down 
a case of medical gear for Sarah Ferguson, the physio; I can't go, 
unfortunately, but the equipment would be invaluable to her (and to you!!)
Thanks
Paul Marfleet

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Just to point out that if you are playing a flat 4/ flood defence then
you are stifling open offence and showing rather poor spirit. you are
taking advantage of the smaller space just as the person jumping is.

Ben Crick

On
Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Stephen Giguere wrote:

> Hey britdiscers,
>
> Something that's getting more and more frequently in these
> indoor games is this "play" of running in from a half to a quarter
> of the pitch away from the opposite zone, leaping into the air
> to catch the disc and fly into the end zone for the point.  It's
> particularly popular against a flood defence.
> My question is... does anyone realise that this is not only really
> annoying and exhibits rather poor spirit, but is a rather dangerous
> tactic.  It's only a matter of time before some clever individual
> sails into the zone and takes out someone on our team.  In the
> smaller gymnasiums the wall is only just behind the defender and
> a direct collision from someone at speed in the air into a
> member of the opposing team's defence could result in very serious
> injury. I know one of my team member was clipped in the shoulder
> quite hard during one of these plays on the weekend and I was
> thankful is wasn't one of our women.
> I've played in both the States and Canada and tactics like this
> received rather harsh punishment from the leagues governing
> body and the tour directors as it is considered by the rules to
> be dangerous play.
> The annoying aspect of it aside from the above is the tendency
> for people with bad timing to try it again and again everytime
> catching the disc and THEN jumping into the zone and then
> waste time bickering about it.
> I don't expect anyone to read this email and have a revelation
> and never do it again but it would be nice for next years indoor
> teams to try to get a handle on it before we end up with these
> Michael Jordan points flying in from 6 feet outside the zone a
> good 4 feet in the air clobbering anything it it's path.
> You could say it's a perfectly legal play and if you move through
> someone it's an offensive foul. Ok fine, no point then,  that's
> correct but it doesn't change the fact that one of our players might
> end up with a concussion or worse from being sent backwards
> into the wall.
>
> -Steve
> and yes I do realise these points happen accidentally sometimes.
>

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31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2001 (CANCELLED)

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31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING

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07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 1

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05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN

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05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY

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http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm


Glenn Nolf

Main Email: glenn@km.be

____________________________________________________________


12 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 2

Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


26 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - CAMBRIDGE CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Cambridge - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Mixed Series Event



http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate


Robert Hadfield

20 Victoria Street, Cambridge, , , CB1 1JP

Main Email: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01223 704254

Work Phone: 01223 334375

Fax: 01223 334373

____________________________________________________________


09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE

Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf]


4th leg bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HONG KONG SEVENS - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


CO-ED TOUR
16 TEAMS
ACCOMODATION AVAILABLE ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS





A SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT , HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

Work Phone: N/A

Mobile: N/A

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001

Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details


Ian Cuddihy

1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , 

Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com

Home Phone: +3535652871

Mobile: +447957667837

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS OUTDOOR NATIONALS

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sally Pennington

Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380678147

____________________________________________________________


23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT - EDINBURGH

Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate]







Simon Salt

Main Email: simon.salt@company-net.com

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30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN

Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf]


5th leg bdga tour 2001
also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour.  


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - EXETER HAT

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Robert Daniels

Moberly House, , Duryard Halls, Lower Argyll Road, Exeter, EX4 4QT

Main Email: R.M.Daniels@exeter.ac.uk

Alternative Email: Randomist@hotmail.com

Mobile: 07733152313

____________________________________________________________


06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC

Location: london - [Disc Golf]


leg 6  of the bdga 2001 tour.
event and venue to be confirmed


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com 

____________________________________________________________


07 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - RUMOUR 2001

Location: Chipping Norton 20 Miles north of Oxford - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Check out the web site muppet

http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html


Jon Copeland

47 Radley Road, Abingdon, Oxon, , 

Main Email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: Jon.Cpeland@bookham.com

Home Phone: 07899 996686

Work Phone: 01235 827295

____________________________________________________________


08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate]





http://eucc.frisbee.cz


TBC

Main Email: TBC

____________________________________________________________


14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Details to be announced nearer the time


Clifford Bottomley

11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF

Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com

Home Phone: 0208-542-4966

Work Phone: 01932-861461

Mobile: 0777-5917169

Fax: 01932-576033

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4

Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN

Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick  - [Disc Golf]


7th bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


18 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam Rey

Main Email: samanir@breathe.com

____________________________________________________________


25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN

Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf]


leg 8 bdga tour 2001
date and venue tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________




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an insult to a 
> beautiful sport and is detrimental to the long term 
> development of Ultimate.

	hmm.....and indoors JUST SO HAPPENS to roughly coincide with the
beginning of the university/ school academic year and is a perfect way for
new players to be introduced the game and learn how to master difficult
throws without having to play outdoors in winter in freezing cold, high
velocity winds and pissing rain which I'm SURE would encourage a massive
recruitement surge.

	While there are a whole heap of reasons why outdoors is lightyears
better than indoors, IMHO Indoors should not be slammed but accepted for
what it is - the training ground for the next generation of ultimate players
and for the rest of us, something energetic to do during the off season. In
this respect indoors should be encouraged for it's duration but that people
should be shown the beauty of outdoors ASAP.

	Oh yeah - for those who say indoors is s**t, try this little nugget
of wisdom - if you can figure out how to create space on an indoor pitch,
just imagine how much space you're going to create for yourself on a full
size outdoor pitch. And for those of you who say 'but you can throw all
kinds of tossy crap' well indoors doesn;t half improve your man- on D
awareness, as if you play that lazy outdoors- type poach then that tossy b/f
scuba goes, the opposition scores and you look like you were being lazy!

	Indoors really does teach quick hands.

	In addition the scoring leap pass (or 'dambuster') can constitue
'harmful endangerment' (according to the 2000 WFDF rules) *only* if a
defensive player did not give up his territory. If a D player moves into a
place where a dambuster move is being implemented, then I'm afraid that's
hard luck as once a player is airborne, it is impossible for him (or her) to
change direction. IF , however, that D player was already there before the
player made his jump, then that is a foul. However that is where it remains
and curently there is no penalty for a player who repeatedly endangers the
safety of other players.

	And as to the 'shitty 4 man zone D' - I saw two textbook examples of
applying this over the weekend - BAF vs Fusion in the semi and Headrush vs
Bears(I think) in the plate final. In the first - BAF came out playing hard
man, took a five point cushion and then threw a junk - collapsing into a
four man zone when the disc neared the endzone. Fusion found this very tough
to break and BAF ran out about 8/ 9 minutes of the clock this way. They then
played the remainder of the game as man on man D, trading the game out to 12
-7/8. A great use of the zone to run out the clock in the middle to give
their opponents less time to stage a comeback.

	Likewise headrush - one point up with about 2/3 mins to go. Totally
impenetrable four man zone and again ran the clock out. 

	Tactically IHMO that's the way to play. It certainly makes for
absorbing, if not hugely exciting, spectating. And that really is one of the
key points of an indoor zone - run the clock out. 


	Congratulations to HorseBandits on winning the final and to both
teams for an entertaining game.


		Paul


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Benjamin Crick <benjamcr@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote:
>Just to point out that if you are playing a flat 4/ flood defence then
>you are stifling open offence and showing rather poor spirit. you are
>taking advantage of the smaller space just as the person jumping is.

how can you say either is in bad spirit, when they are both in line with the 
word, and the spirit, of the rules? and surely stifling open offence is 
desirable for the d team?

i enjoy playing against a four-man zone defence, it requires faster 
reactions and disc skills than outdoors ever does.
i can't see what people are complaining about: if it's an effective form of 
defence it will encourage greater skill and inventiveness from the offence, 
which has to be a good thing.

i'd like, if i may, to draw a comparison with basketball, in which the 
defensive team crowds into the key, forcing the attackers to either use 
speed and skill to pass and move inside, or improve their shooting accuracy 
to score from range. these are in some ways parallel to ways of breaking the 
zone.

thankfully, in ultimate a player jumping in who gets impeded by a defender, 
but still scores, doesn't then get another chance with a  free throw for 
"drawing the foul".


ed
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and anyone who wants me in the UK this summer. wooohooo!

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Hi all

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The only reason a flat back 4 D works is because we do not play with correct
depth enzones. They should be at least 1 metre deeper than those at
Cheltenham. In Scandawegia they murder this D because of the front to back
and back to front enzone cuts!
Fatboy
TRAVEL AND PLAY REAL INDOORS
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> Just to point out that if you are playing a flat 4/ flood defence then
> you are stifling open offence and showing rather poor spirit. you are
> taking advantage of the smaller space just as the person jumping is.
>
> Ben Crick
>
> On
> Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Stephen Giguere wrote:
>
> > Hey britdiscers,
> >
> > Something that's getting more and more frequently in these
> > indoor games is this "play" of running in from a half to a quarter
> > of the pitch away from the opposite zone, leaping into the air
> > to catch the disc and fly into the end zone for the point.  It's
> > particularly popular against a flood defence.
> > My question is... does anyone realise that this is not only really
> > annoying and exhibits rather poor spirit, but is a rather dangerous
> > tactic.  It's only a matter of time before some clever individual
> > sails into the zone and takes out someone on our team.  In the
> > smaller gymnasiums the wall is only just behind the defender and
> > a direct collision from someone at speed in the air into a
> > member of the opposing team's defence could result in very serious
> > injury. I know one of my team member was clipped in the shoulder
> > quite hard during one of these plays on the weekend and I was
> > thankful is wasn't one of our women.
> > I've played in both the States and Canada and tactics like this
> > received rather harsh punishment from the leagues governing
> > body and the tour directors as it is considered by the rules to
> > be dangerous play.
> > The annoying aspect of it aside from the above is the tendency
> > for people with bad timing to try it again and again everytime
> > catching the disc and THEN jumping into the zone and then
> > waste time bickering about it.
> > I don't expect anyone to read this email and have a revelation
> > and never do it again but it would be nice for next years indoor
> > teams to try to get a handle on it before we end up with these
> > Michael Jordan points flying in from 6 feet outside the zone a
> > good 4 feet in the air clobbering anything it it's path.
> > You could say it's a perfectly legal play and if you move through
> > someone it's an offensive foul. Ok fine, no point then,  that's
> > correct but it doesn't change the fact that one of our players might
> > end up with a concussion or worse from being sent backwards
> > into the wall.
> >
> > -Steve
> > and yes I do realise these points happen accidentally sometimes.
> >
>

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To all student teams,
Finally after foot and mouth problems etc we are pleased to announce =
that the National Student Outdoors 2001 will be taking place in York on =
28/29 April.

Sorry this is such short notice but we hope that you can all make it. We =
have space for 36 teams (10-12 pitches, camping, showers, party - =
details to follow soon).

We will be prioritising first team entries (ie first teams WILL get a =
place) until Tuesday 17th April, after that all places will be assigned =
on a first come first served basis. Therefore please send all your team =
entries together so we get an idea of how many teams we will have.

Please send cheques for =A395 payable to U.Y.U.F.C. to=20
YBK, c/o Tom Candlin,
 8 Starkey Crescent,=20
Tang Hall,=20
York, YO31 OSY

I know that many teams have finished their terms so please pass this on =
to any teams/ mates you may know, and plaese send your cheques off as =
soon as possible.
I will be sending out further details later on in the week.

See you all there,
Cheers
Tom

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Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes
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X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on GBZNH021/GBZ/Zurich-Internet(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at
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--0__=80256A1F0027ACF08f9e8a93df938690918c80256A1F0027ACF0
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BD,

My company virus-checker just sent me this warning about :

zipped_files.exe

I would suggest not executing any attachment with this name !!!

Balti
BAF 34
----- Forwarded by James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 30/03/01 08:15
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                                         To:     James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich@Zurich                       
                    30/03/01             cc:                                                                    
                    01:06                bcc:                                                                   
                                         Subject:     Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes                    
                                                                                                                



WARNING! Anti-Virus software tool detected a virus in this e-mail. The attached file has been disinfected and can't act as a virus.

Date:      3/30/2001 2:6:23
Virus:      TROJ_MTX.A
File:        zipped_files.EXE
From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
To:          CN=James Hewitson/OU=FIN/OU=Life/OU=UK/O=Zurich @ Zurich
Action:   Quarantined;
(Embedded image moved to file: pic28145.pcx)
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Content-Description: Paintbrush

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AAAAAAAAAAABCgABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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--0__=80256A1F0027ACF08f9e8a93df938690918c80256A1F0027ACF0--

From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk  Fri Mar 30 09:33:58 2001
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I have received a file from you after you posted to Britdisc.
This file contains a virus called W95/MTX@M.
The attached filename is zipped_files.exe.

You may want to have your system checked out, also better let people on
Britdisc know that they may received an infected file and to delete it.

Cheers
Richie Smart
TeamShark

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	tom@tcandlin.fsnet.co.uk [mailto:tom@tcandlin.fsnet.co.uk] 
> Sent:	30 March 2001 01:07
> Subject:	
> 
>  << File: alert.txt >> 

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I have received a mail from tom too.

Clo
Strange Blue

Richie Smart wrote:

> I have received a file from you after you posted to Britdisc.
> This file contains a virus called W95/MTX@M.
> The attached filename is zipped_files.exe.
>
> You may want to have your system checked out, also better let people on
> Britdisc know that they may received an infected file and to delete it.
>
> Cheers
> Richie Smart
> TeamShark
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:         tom@tcandlin.fsnet.co.uk [mailto:tom@tcandlin.fsnet.co.uk]
> > Sent: 30 March 2001 01:07
> > Subject:
> >
> >  << File: alert.txt >>

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Subject: britdisc virus 
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:43:52 +0100
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It might be safe to say everyone who's written anything to britdisc
in the past long while probably got it. It would be a matter
of how many britdisc or other emails Tom still had in his inbox. 

Also since everyone who got it probably won't have a virus
checker we all might be seeing numerous copies of it popping up
from those who read Tom's attachment before seeing this.

Steve

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Just to quote another parallel with basketball. In the states, zone
defence has been abolished, players are only allowed to defend man on
man! This was done to quicken up the game and make it more spectacular.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

VITO


Adriano Vitali
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http://www.ptc.com/support/index.htm


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Subject: Re: Virus
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Thank you for infecting my computer with the virus
attached to the last mail you posted!


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Dear Britdisc,
It would appear that somehow my computer has emailed you all some attachment 
called zipped_files.EXE. This was sent from tom@tcandlin.fsnet.co.uk

DO NOT OPEN IT, DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY

I do not know how this was sent (I have no record of it on my computer)
I apologise for any proplems / concern it may have caused and am looking 
into the problem. Thanks for all the alerts you have sent me.

Tom Candlin
_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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From: "White, Tom" <tom.white@ic.ac.uk>
To: "'JOE PIETRZAK '" <joepietrzak@yahoo.co.uk>,
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	 <tom@tcandlin.fsnet.co.uk>,
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Subject: virus stuff
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:41:00 +0100
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yo.


it ain't anyones fault 'bout this virus stuff, it just happens.

lets not all post replies about whether we got it, or who we are annoyed
with, cos its gonna get boring.

If you got any real info about it (what it does, how to stop it etc), let us
know, if you don't wanna get it, then don't open any mails from Tom.

Hope all people 'puters are well.

laters

tom  (S&G)

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Yeah but on that reasoning, you could band zone D and insist you only score
from you own endzone with an upside down throw, certainly would be more
spectacular!! Lets face it the yanks don't always get it right. I've played
indoors in the states on a roller hockey pitch with keyhole endzones, stall
of 10  and bouncing of the walls was legit.......it Sucked!!! I say the way
we play it is just fine, zone rocks.

Jon
Shrub

P.S. Poor old Uriel if we did ban zone - they'd have to rethink their entire
defence.......... :-)



----- Original Message -----
From: Adriano Vitali <avitali@ptc.com>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: Indoor zone


> Just to quote another parallel with basketball. In the states, zone
> defence has been abolished, players are only allowed to defend man on
> man! This was done to quicken up the game and make it more spectacular.
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> VITO
>
>
> Adriano Vitali
> PTC - Technical Support
> http://www.ptc.com/support/index.htm
>

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it never worked for us anyway lets face it, maybe just banning uriel from
playing it could be the key......

Duncan
Ex-Uriel
Discult/D Bob/Angels

At 10:44 30/03/01 +0100, Jonathan Palmer wrote:
>Yeah but on that reasoning, you could band zone D and insist you only score
>from you own endzone with an upside down throw, certainly would be more
>spectacular!! Lets face it the yanks don't always get it right. I've played
>indoors in the states on a roller hockey pitch with keyhole endzones, stall
>of 10  and bouncing of the walls was legit.......it Sucked!!! I say the way
>we play it is just fine, zone rocks.
>
>Jon
>Shrub
>
>P.S. Poor old Uriel if we did ban zone - they'd have to rethink their entire
>defence.......... :-)
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Adriano Vitali <avitali@ptc.com>
>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:54 AM
>Subject: Indoor zone
>
>
>> Just to quote another parallel with basketball. In the states, zone
>> defence has been abolished, players are only allowed to defend man on
>> man! This was done to quicken up the game and make it more spectacular.
>>
>> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> VITO
>>
>>
>> Adriano Vitali
>> PTC - Technical Support
>> http://www.ptc.com/support/index.htm
>>
>
>
>

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Zorro, the voice of reason once again.
Does the offending message & attachment need to be/can it be deleted from
the BD archives?
Yours in technically ignorance
Wayne
(they don't let computer viruses into Germany, damned efficient!)


-----Original Message-----
From: White, Tom [mailto:tom.white@ic.ac.uk]
Sent: Freitag, 30. März 2001 11:41
To: 'JOE PIETRZAK '; 'Tom Candlin '; 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk '
Subject: virus stuff


yo.


it ain't anyones fault 'bout this virus stuff, it just happens.

lets not all post replies about whether we got it, or who we are annoyed
with, cos its gonna get boring.

If you got any real info about it (what it does, how to stop it etc), let us
know, if you don't wanna get it, then don't open any mails from Tom.

Hope all people 'puters are well.

laters

tom  (S&G)

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Guys,

If you are having problems cleaning your the virus off you machine go to the 
following link
on the Trend Anti-virus web site where you can run an on line virus check, 
you can also down load
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There is online info on the virus at:

http://www.info-sec.com/viruses/99/worm_explore_zip.shtml

to name but one site.  

It looks like it's a Melisa like virus - but it may also effect your hard
drive. Its coded in visual basic - so unix users need not fear as usual -
effecting the microsoft exchange and outlook.  Details of how it effects
the infected system are given as well as the steps you need to clear it up
- correct currupted files etc.

I don't know exactly what it does - I didn't get a chance to install
it.  
It apears to have altered slightly so there may not be the
Explore.exe infection on your hard disk.  (documentation suggests that the
virus will try and send a message to any email sent the infected system
and you'll find various files on your hard drive if you are infected)
If its is there sipmle steps to remove it can be found on:
http://www.ariga.com/peacewatch/curezip.htm

Hope this adds something,

Cheers

Ben
Hoofers/MooTones/OW!

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, White, Tom wrote:

> yo.
> 
> 
> it ain't anyones fault 'bout this virus stuff, it just happens.
> 
> lets not all post replies about whether we got it, or who we are annoyed
> with, cos its gonna get boring.
> 
> If you got any real info about it (what it does, how to stop it etc), let us
> know, if you don't wanna get it, then don't open any mails from Tom.
> 
> Hope all people 'puters are well.
> 
> laters
> 
> tom  (S&G)
> 



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I'm pretty sure there was some sort of zone defence being played during 
March Madness ... maybe that's not waht they were calling it but, it 
certainly wasn't man-on-man ...

Of course, it may be different for the college games ...

Laters,

Helen x



From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com>
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Indoor zone
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:54:47 +0100

Just to quote another parallel with basketball. In the states, zone
defence has been abolished, players are only allowed to defend man on
man! This was done to quicken up the game and make it more spectacular.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

VITO


Adriano Vitali
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>I have received a file from you after you posted to Britdisc.
>This file contains a virus called W95/MTX@M.
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>
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just goes to show, people:

never open .exe files in forwards or anything else unless you know *EXACTLY* 
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Zone D is allowed in College games, and IMO it makes the game much more 
interesting to watch. Take from that what you want.

Ian Bradshaw


>From: "Helen Myers" <helen_myers@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: helenmyers@bigfoot.com
>To: avitali@ptc.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Indoor zone
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:52:44 -0500
>
>
>I'm pretty sure there was some sort of zone defence being played during
>March Madness ... maybe that's not waht they were calling it but, it
>certainly wasn't man-on-man ...
>
>Of course, it may be different for the college games ...
>
>Laters,
>
>Helen x
>
>
>
>From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Indoor zone
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:54:47 +0100
>
>Just to quote another parallel with basketball. In the states, zone
>defence has been abolished, players are only allowed to defend man on
>man! This was done to quicken up the game and make it more spectacular.
>
>Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>VITO
>
>
>Adriano Vitali
>PTC - Technical Support
>http://www.ptc.com/support/index.htm
>
>
>
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I have been informed by the venue authorities that
there is a good chance the ground on which we were
aiming at having the camping will be to wet for this
purpose. I am trying to come up with an alternative
site. I will keep you posted on this matter.

As soon as I have the details on all of the first game
times I will post them on britdisc for you. I know how
Friday nights and Ultimate Tournaments do not mix
well.

Cheers 

Matt



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hello britdisc,
Writing to try to find a nice friendly team that requires an extra player
for tour 1 (and tours 2-4 if i can!)
Hope someone out there can help me out with my dilema as i do need some
summer ultimate.

Duncan
Ex-Uriel
Discult/D Bob/Angels

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I'm still hoping that someone can collect some medical equipment to take to 
Bristol this weekend.....please!
Anyone passing Colchester or able to detour?? How about anyone going into 
London this week from East Anglia, even if you're not going to Tour 1, who 
can pass the stuff on to someone from London who is going? (if you see what I 
mean!)
Paul Marfleet

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>I'm still hoping that someone can collect some medical equipment to take to 
<BR>Bristol this weekend.....please!
<BR>Anyone passing Colchester or able to detour?? How about anyone going into 
<BR>London this week from East Anglia, even if you're not going to Tour 1, who 
<BR>can pass the stuff on to someone from London who is going? (if you see what I 
<BR>mean!)
<BR>Paul Marfleet</FONT></HTML>

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Can I remind all team that tour rosters have to be completed before the end of Wednesday 4th April.

You do not have to be a rostered team - however if you are rostered for a team you are committed to that team for the rest of the season. You may only change in exceptional circumstances - after written request to the tour committee.

If you are not rostered as a team you can still compete in the tour, but will not qualify for Nationals. If you think your team might have a chance at Nationals, such as a newly formed London team, you might be disappointed to not go to Nationals because you didn't roster in time.

If you are not going to enter as a rostered team, you are still requested to complete a team list to help the BUF generate player info for the conversion to an association.

Details of how to complete tour rosters are on the BUF website.

Chris
DoC (but not for long!)

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Same question goes for T4 (I stumbled across the website the other
day...)

150 + 15, or 135 + 15 ?

Wayne
Fluid Druids


Tue, 20 Mar 2001, by  <mailto:bruce@pointblank.co.uk>;
 Subject: Tour Invites
>I have a question...
>
>Given your paper work suggests approx cost of 135 quid per tour + 15 quid BUF 
>tax/deposit, is the Tour 1 cost quoted at 150 quid the total price, ie I only 
>send Matt 135, and Dora the other 15, or is it 150 to Matt and 15 to Dora?
>
>I'm probably being dense, so humour me :o)
>
>Bruce
>Point Blank
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From : Chris Hughes <cjhughes@talk21.com>
>To : 'Britdisc' <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Date : 18 March 2001 22:54:26
>Subject : Tour Invites
>As you have all see from Matt Edwards the tour invite has gone out on Britdisc - 
>and it is here again (except not as an attachement)
>>
>>The entry deadline is Next monday - apologies for the lateness. You need to 
>organise yourselves quickly. Tour waiting list rules will be strictly applied 
>with no leniency for incompetence. Read your rules - learn the major parts - act 
>on the info.
>>
>>You will also need to sort your roster. This must be done by the 4th of April 
>(last day). Do it now - don't leave it until the end. Only one guest per team is 
>allowed - don't be disqualified because you haven't rostered everyone.
>>
>>Any problems mail me - but don't expect a rapid response so again - be ahead of 
>the game (unlike me!)
>>
>>Cheers Chris
>>
>>Tour 1 invite follows:
>>
>>Mathew Edwards
>>4 Wick Crescent
>>Brislington
>>Bristol BS4 4HL
>>E-mail address: matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk
>>Mobile: 0781 138 2084
>>TOUR ONE BRISTOL
>>Ultimate Tournament
>>7th & 8th April 2001 
>>Dear All 
>>You are invited to Bristol Tour One, which will be held at Clifton College 
>Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the 7th and 8th of April. 
>The deadline for all entrants is Monday 26th of March. 
>>ENTRY FEE - £150 per team 
>>A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of £30 is available for student teams i.e. 
>£120. 
>>CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available with 24hr toilet facilities open to 
>all. Changing rooms with hot showers “yes, hot“ will be readily accessible. A 
>list of local B&B / Guest Houses is available on request.  
>>GRUB - A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff will be laid on for 
>the Saturday evening, followed by a party and a bar with a late licence, 
>hopefully of 1am. 
>>DIRECTIONS - From North, South, East or West: M5 - exit at Jct 19. Follow A369 
>towards Bristol for approximately 4 miles on a windy road through small villages 
>until you see a narrow turning on the right hand side signed posted for Sports 
>Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep up on you - if you get to the 
>traffic lights, you have gone too far! - this does not include the pedestrian 
>crossing lights at the George Inn at Abbots Leigh Village). See you there! 
>>Mathew Edwards
>>TOUR ONE BRISTOL - Clifton Rugby Club
>>7th & 8th April 2001 
>>I ENCLOSE MY CHEQUE FOR £?????????????
>>PLEASE MAKE ALL CHEQUES PAYABLE TO MATHEW EDWARDS AND RETURN TO ABOVE ADDRESS
>>NAME:????????????????????????????????????????????..
>>TEAM:????????????????????????????????.????????????.
>>ADDRESS:??????????????????????????????.????????????.
>>??????????????????????????????????????????.???????????????.?..????????????????.
>.?POSTCODE:??????????.??
>>TEL:?????????????????????...MOBILE:??????????????????.?
>>E-MAIL ADDRESS:??????????????????????????????????????? 
>>
>>
>>
>
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Dear All

There has been an outbreak of foot and mouth 3.5 miles from the fields. =
This means certain restrictions on boots and cleanliness will be =
necessary, the details of which we will forward to you as soon as we =
receive them.

One restriction is there is NO CAMPING AVAILABLE. If you do need a camp =
site we are looking about 15 - 20 miles away. Please contact us if you =
need details of the camp sites.

The other problem is waterlogged pitches. The final decision of yes we =
can run or not is being made on Thursday am and will be posted to =
Britdisc as soon as it is received.

To save people a wasted journey you can call ON FRIDAY or SATURDAY on =
07976 422261 to get an update. (this will be an answerphone message). =
This is the just in case line for foot and mouth.

If during the weekend a case of foot and mouth is found close by and we =
get shut down then, within reason, results from this tour will not =
count.

Here's hoping

Matt & Fatboy

PS If the tour is cancelled before the weekend it will be moved to 21st =
/ 22nd April 2001 @ the same place (foot and mouth permitting)



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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There has been an outbreak of foot and =
mouth 3.5=20
miles from the fields. This means certain restrictions on boots and =
cleanliness=20
will be necessary, the details of which we will forward to you as soon =
as we=20
receive them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One restriction is there is NO CAMPING =
AVAILABLE.=20
If you do need a camp site we are looking about 15 - 20 miles away. =
Please=20
contact us if you need details of the camp sites.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The other problem is waterlogged =
pitches. The final=20
decision of yes we can run or not is being made on Thursday am and will =
be=20
posted to Britdisc as soon as it is received.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To save people a wasted journey you can =
call ON=20
FRIDAY or SATURDAY on 07976 422261 to get an update. (this will be an=20
answerphone message). This is the just in case line for foot and=20
mouth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If during the weekend a case of foot =
and mouth is=20
found close by and we get shut down then, within reason, results from =
this tour=20
will not count.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's hoping</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Matt &amp; Fatboy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS If the tour is cancelled before the =
weekend it=20
will be moved to 21st / 22nd April 2001 @ the same place (foot and mouth =

permitting)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Subject: Tour1 POSTPONED
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Tour 1 is POSTPONED

It has been moved to 21st / 22nd April 2001

Same location.

Camping situation TBA

The reason - Foot and Mouth=20

It will not be a problem for 2 weeks time as we will be able to operate =
within the restrictions by then.

Really sorry, and for a change there really wasnt anything Matt or I =
could do.

See you in 2 weeks.

Fatboy & Matt

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tour 1 is POSTPONED</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It has been moved to 21st / 22nd April=20
2001</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same location.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Camping situation TBA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason - Foot and Mouth =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It will not be a problem for 2 weeks =
time as we=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Really sorry, and for a change there =
really wasnt=20
anything Matt or I could do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>See you in 2 weeks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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I've just had a phone call from Adam Batchelor.

Regretfully, Tour 1 cannot happen this weekend, so has been postphoned to 21+22 April


(Adam apologises, and wonders what happened to the email he thought he sent yesterday!)

Regards
Wayne Retter

PS: Please don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger!

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:45:21 +0100 "adam batchelor" 
<adam.batchelor@virgin.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear All
> 
> There has been an outbreak of foot and mouth 3.5 miles from the fields. This means certain restrictions on boots and cleanliness will be necessary, the details of which we will forward to you as soon as we receive them.
> 
> One restriction is there is NO CAMPING AVAILABLE. If you do need a camp site we are looking about 15 - 20 miles away. Please contact us if you need details of the camp sites.
> 
> The other problem is waterlogged pitches. The final decision of yes we can run or not is being made on Thursday am and will be posted to Britdisc as soon as it is received.
> 
> To save people a wasted journey you can call ON FRIDAY or SATURDAY on 07976 422261 to get an update. (this will be an answerphone message). This is the just in case line for foot and mouth.
> 
> If during the weekend a case of foot and mouth is found close by and we get shut down then, within reason, results from this tour will not count.
> 
> Here's hoping
> 
> Matt & Fatboy
> 
> PS If the tour is cancelled before the weekend it will be moved to 21st / 22nd April 2001 @ the same place (foot and mouth permitting)
> 
> 
> 
> --
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There has been an outbreak of foot and mouth 3.5 
miles from the fields. This means certain restrictions on boots and cleanliness 
will be necessary, the details of which we will forward to you as soon as we 
receive them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One restriction is there is NO CAMPING AVAILABLE. 
If you do need a camp site we are looking about 15 - 20 miles away. Please 
contact us if you need details of the camp sites.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The other problem is waterlogged pitches. The final 
decision of yes we can run or not is being made on Thursday am and will be 
posted to Britdisc as soon as it is received.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To save people a wasted journey you can call ON 
FRIDAY or SATURDAY on 07976 422261 to get an update. (this will be an 
answerphone message). This is the just in case line for foot and 
mouth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If during the weekend a case of foot and mouth is 
found close by and we get shut down then, within reason, results from this tour 
will not count.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's hoping</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matt &amp; Fatboy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS If the tour is cancelled before the weekend it 
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All,

Hopefully you will have read and received Adam's Email by now. If not - TOUR
1 IS NOT HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND - It has been postponed until the weekend of
the 21st and 22nd April.

I appreciate that this will affect peoples ability to make it. For that we
apologise, the restrictions imposed by MAFF due to Foot and Mouth are
something that we have absolutely no control over, and you will all
appreciate that we MUST work within them.

If you as a team are unable to make this new weekend then contact Adam.
However if you were not coming this weekend but can make the new date, again
speak to Adam as he will probably be able to accommodate you.

I feel that it is important that everyone appreciates the efforts that Adam
and Matt have gone to in an attempt to make sure that people get the event
with the facilities that they deserve for their money. I have spoken to Adam
repeatedly this week, and have been involved in all the major decisions. I
agree completely with their decision to postpone. I also agree with his
decision to go ahead and try to hold it in two weeks time - the F&M
restrictions will still be in place, but other factors at the venue will
have altered by then which will make it possible to go ahead.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank Adam and Matt for their
ongoing efforts. Can we please make sure that we support them, and can I
assure people that the event will be going ahead in two weeks - only if we
are able to work safely, sensibly and responsibly within the MAFF
guidelines. This may take some more effort on your behalf, but can I please
stress the importance of EVERYONE sticking to regulations, and not trying to
be clever and working around them. It does not matter if you come from an
already infected area (so I'm not taking the disease back) or if you come
from the middle of London (No farms near me!). The rules are not there for
your benefit, but everyone else's - have consideration.

Chris

DoC


___________________________________________________________

    Chris Hughes
    Lecturer in Biomechanics
    School of Sport
    Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education
    Hardwick Campus
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The Britdisc archive at http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~suaaz/BritDisc/ seems to 
have gone a bit wrong.
While trying to look up previous e-mails about tour 1, it sent me to other 
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Mavis is looking for new women recruits who have a lust for wearing 
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Mavis will be featuring at Prague this summer (7 to 14 July) in the women's 
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Tour 1 is POSTPONED

It has been moved to 21st / 22nd April 2001

Same location.

Camping situation TBA

The reason - Foot and Mouth=20

It will not be a problem for 2 weeks time as we will be able to operate =
within the restrictions by then.

Really sorry, and for a change there really wasnt anything Matt or I =
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See you in 2 weeks.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tour 1 is POSTPONED</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It has been moved to 21st / 22nd April=20
2001</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Same location.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Camping situation TBA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason - Foot and Mouth =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Apologies to you all about Tour 1 being postponed, I'm
sure that you all realise that it was unavoidable.

To everyone waiting for a response about camping
facilities, If you could give me a week and I will
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Will the usual suspects be in Regnets Park seeing as the Tour isn't on
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BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY 


See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates.

Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/

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21 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 1 (NEW DATE)

Location: Bristol - [Outdoor Ultimate]


This event has been moved from April 7/8 due to a Foot and Mouth disease outbreak near the venue.

Adam Batchelor

Main Email: adam.batchelor@virgin.net

Mobile: 07976 422261 

____________________________________________________________


28 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT NATIONAL OUTDOOR ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT

Location: Hull Road playing fields, York - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Ultimate, space for 36 teams.


Tom Candlin

8 Starkey Crescent, Tang Hall, York, YO31 0SY, 

Main Email: tom@tcandlin.fsnet.co.uk

Alternative Email: ajg112@ohm.york.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01904 427359

Work Phone: 01904 424188

Mobile: 07780 615622

Fax: 01904 424188

____________________________________________________________


05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY

Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins
Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite
Dinner available on Saturday night
Saturday night party
GREAT BEER


http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm


Glenn Nolf

Main Email: glenn@km.be

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05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN

Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf]


3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001
(this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6)


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - THE C.U.B.E.

Location: Aberdeen, Scotland - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Caledonia's Ultimate Beach Event.
Team Entry = £25
Friday & Saturday socials
7 on 7.


David Gardner

Dom 2,, Dunbar Hall,, Don St,, Aberdeen, AB24 1AU

Main Email: positivemojo@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: monkey_magic14@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01224 275454

____________________________________________________________


12 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 2

Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


26 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - CAMBRIDGE CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Cambridge - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Mixed Series Event



http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate


Robert Hadfield

20 Victoria Street, Cambridge, , , CB1 1JP

Main Email: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01223 704254

Work Phone: 01223 334375

Fax: 01223 334373

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09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HONG KONG SEVENS - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


CO-ED TOUR
16 TEAMS
ACCOMODATION AVAILABLE ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS





A SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT , HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

Work Phone: N/A

Mobile: N/A

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09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE

Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf]


4th leg bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001

Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details


Ian Cuddihy

1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , 

Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com

Home Phone: +3535652871

Mobile: +447957667837

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16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS OUTDOOR NATIONALS

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sally Pennington

Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380678147

____________________________________________________________


23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - EXETER HAT

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Robert Daniels

Moberly House, , Duryard Halls, Lower Argyll Road, Exeter, EX4 4QT

Main Email: R.M.Daniels@exeter.ac.uk

Alternative Email: Randomist@hotmail.com

Mobile: 07733152313

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30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT - EDINBURGH

Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate]







Simon Salt

Main Email: simon.salt@company-net.com

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN

Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf]


5th leg bdga tour 2001
also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour.  


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC

Location: london - [Disc Golf]


leg 6  of the bdga 2001 tour.
event and venue to be confirmed


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com 

____________________________________________________________


07 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - RUMOUR 2001

Location: Chipping Norton 20 Miles north of Oxford - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Check out the web site muppet

http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html


Jon Copeland

47 Radley Road, Abingdon, Oxon, , 

Main Email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: Jon.Cpeland@bookham.com

Home Phone: 07899 996686

Work Phone: 01235 827295

____________________________________________________________


08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate]





http://eucc.frisbee.cz


TBC

Main Email: TBC

____________________________________________________________


14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Details to be announced nearer the time


Clifford Bottomley

11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF

Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com

Home Phone: 0208-542-4966

Work Phone: 01932-861461

Mobile: 0777-5917169

Fax: 01932-576033

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN

Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick  - [Disc Golf]


7th bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4

Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


18 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam Rey

Main Email: samanir@breathe.com

____________________________________________________________


25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN

Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf]


leg 8 bdga tour 2001
date and venue tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________




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An article about Ultimate which has raised some interest in the IT press
here in Scotland.   Scottish Computer headline are now interested in
sponsoring a tournament so watch this space for more news.

http://www.computerheadline.com/dev/AfterHours/Feature/feature_hammers.htm

Simon
sneeeky's

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Thanks to Adam, Matt and Chris for keeping us informed and for reacting
quickly and sensibly regarding arrangements for this weekend.

However, Chevron would like to ask, in humble, non-accusatory tones, why the
need to reschedule the event to the 21st/22nd April? Chris rightly places
importance on scheduling events as far in advance as possible, but this
rescheduling gives us 2 weeks' notice of one of the key tournaments of the
year. I'm sure this will affect many teams. Chevron, for example, work and
train hard as a squad and were well prepared for this weekend, when we would
have fielded 15 or 16 players. For 21st/22nd April it looks like we'll
manage 7 or 8.

There is a danger of devaluing the tournament and, for some teams, affecting
their final placing in the Tour. Meanwhile as I look at the BUF Diary, there
is a very large August and September-shaped hole. I understand that
decisions were (rightly) made very quickly yesterday, but was any
consideration given to rescheduling the event to later in the year?

Rob
Chevron

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The dates set for this tournament are the 16-17th June.  

We are looking for a venue with minimum of 2 pitches with 
on site showers etc and accomodation to suit student 
and non student teams and a party venue.

If anyone thinks that they can help with this, or requires 
further information, please get in contact with me:
Sally Pennington
hsp298@lineone.net (not the above address)

Thank you
Sally  

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> Forward to as many people as you can!!
>
> As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the 7th
> [UK Only].
>
> For those who don't know, a census is where the government collates
> general information about its residents (number of people living in your
> house, religion, etc)
>
> If there are enough people, who put down a religion that isn't mentioned
> on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and legal religion.  It
> usually takes about 10,000 people to nominate the same religion.  It is
> for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does not have a
> dominant religion to put "Jedi" as their religion.
>
> Send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down "Jedi" on their
> census form. And remember ......If you are a member of the Jedi religion
> then you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'.
>
> So if this has been your dream since you were 4 years old....Do it because
> you love Star Wars, If not........... then just do it to annoy people.
>
> "May the Force be with you!"
>

> ----------------------------------------------
>


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<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Forward to as many people as you can!!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the 7th</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; [UK Only].</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; For those who don't know, a census is where the government collates</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; general information about its residents (number of people living in your</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; house, religion, etc)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; If there are enough people, who put down a religion that isn't mentioned</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and legal religion.&nbsp; It</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; usually takes about 10,000 people to nominate the same religion.&nbsp; It is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does not have a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; dominant religion to put &quot;Jedi&quot; as their religion.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down &quot;Jedi&quot; on their</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; census form. And remember ......If you are a member of the Jedi religion</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; then you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; So if this has been your dream since you were 4 years old....Do it because</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; you love Star Wars, If not........... then just do it to annoy people.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &quot;May the Force be with you!&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
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This popped up in Australia also...... The Government seemed reluctant to play along....???
 
http://www.theage.com.au/frontpage/2001/04/05/FFXV9CYD5LC.html <http://www.theage.com.au/frontpage/2001/04/05/FFXV9CYD5LC.html> 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 06 April 2001 11:56
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Subject: Become a Jedi Knight




> Forward to as many people as you can!! 
> 
> As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the 7th 
> [UK Only]. 
> 
> For those who don't know, a census is where the government collates 
> general information about its residents (number of people living in your 
> house, religion, etc) 
> 
> If there are enough people, who put down a religion that isn't mentioned 
> on the census form it becomes a fully recognised and legal religion.  It 
> usually takes about 10,000 people to nominate the same religion.  It is 
> for this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does not have a 
> dominant religion to put "Jedi" as their religion. 
> 
> Send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down "Jedi" on their 
> census form. And remember ......If you are a member of the Jedi religion 
> then you are by default a 'Jedi Knight'. 
> 
> So if this has been your dream since you were 4 years old....Do it because 
> you love Star Wars, If not........... then just do it to annoy people. 
> 
> "May the Force be with you!" 
> 


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Rob (and I'm sure others)

Later in the year was considered, but was discounted for a number of reasons
at this stage - yes there is a number of free weekends later in the year,
but this is why we are not using them - yet.
1. Adam has an opportunity to proceed with two weeks time - we were aware
that this may clash with people not returning from Rimini in time, however
it is a lot easier, and less costly to attempt to organise the event quickly
while we still have a window of opportunity.
2. The reason behind attempting such a rapid turnaround was partially to do
with the fact that there is no guarantee that this event will take place in
two weekends time, and then we will have to reschedule in the summer.
3. Why keep the summer free? - since the F&M crisis is continuing I fully
expect that we may need some of the later summer weekends to recover other
tour events. All the other events are on the edge of large tracts of
farmland, and are equally susceptible as Bristol to being called off and
postponed, unless of course the government comes up with a more successful
plan than killing everything in sight with more than 3 legs.

My apologies but unless the F&M crisis is brought to bear, then we are
likely to face a very unpredictable year. May I suggest that all players
check the britdisc archives, the buf website, or the TD for each event to
ensure that play is taking place before you travel.

Chris

DoC

-----Original Message-----
From: rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk [mailto:rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk]
Sent: 06 April 2001 10:25
To: BritDisc (E-mail)
Subject: Rescheduling of Tour 1


Thanks to Adam, Matt and Chris for keeping us informed and for reacting
quickly and sensibly regarding arrangements for this weekend.

However, Chevron would like to ask, in humble, non-accusatory tones, why the
need to reschedule the event to the 21st/22nd April? Chris rightly places
importance on scheduling events as far in advance as possible, but this
rescheduling gives us 2 weeks' notice of one of the key tournaments of the
year. I'm sure this will affect many teams. Chevron, for example, work and
train hard as a squad and were well prepared for this weekend, when we would
have fielded 15 or 16 players. For 21st/22nd April it looks like we'll
manage 7 or 8.

There is a danger of devaluing the tournament and, for some teams, affecting
their final placing in the Tour. Meanwhile as I look at the BUF Diary, there
is a very large August and September-shaped hole. I understand that
decisions were (rightly) made very quickly yesterday, but was any
consideration given to rescheduling the event to later in the year?

Rob
Chevron

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Chris, Adam, Matt & Britdisc

Is the next available date (21-22 April) going to be available??? I would
think NO would be the answer as its in an exclusion zone. So why are we even
thinking about suggesting the weekend of the 21/22 April???  too cancel it
two days before again, then reschedule in the big gap in the summer would be
ludicrous.
As I understand it these areas of exclusion will increase not decrease!!!
Please let us know how in two weeks we will be able to use the venue??
Lets get real and reschedule for another date at another venue, as this one
is under threat of not being available for the rest of the season!!! (sorry
Matt and Adam) As are other tournaments!!
Alot of Ultimate players in across the board are going to Rimini and
obviously as no ultimate tourneys were to be played on the 21-22 April have
extended their stay so will now miss (new date) Tour 1. Please reorganise
the tour too either the three remaining events or cancel it altogether ((as
the rugby should have been (Southern shandy drinkers game League is the
Best)).

Also many people will have lives outside of ultimate (even me), and so have
arranged our hectic non playing lives around the tour and other tourneys
such as Rimini, Brugge, Prague, so moving this (fixed date) tour is going to
create more problems than it solves from mine and other peoples and team
perspectives.

Can I request an EGM of the BUF committee and representatives for all teams
too discuss this matter and the further implications that foot and mouth may
have on the rest of the year. And not leave this upto just the DoC (sorry
Chris) (at least discuss openly and objectively this problem BUF committee).

Si.b xxx
Chevy (but my own opinion)

p.s. Could we also look at excluding RED from every event due to Leicester
being a TB hotspot :-)
p.p.s. All the above is to be regarded as null and void by no humour players
and committee members as written after too many beers ( that's bitter not
lager you shandy drinkers) at £1.34 a pint (only in the north).




----- Original Message -----
From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
To: <rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk>; "BritDisc (E-mail)"
<britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:15 PM
Subject: RE: Rescheduling of Tour 1


> Rob (and I'm sure others)
>
> Later in the year was considered, but was discounted for a number of
reasons
> at this stage - yes there is a number of free weekends later in the year,
> but this is why we are not using them - yet.
> 1. Adam has an opportunity to proceed with two weeks time - we were aware
> that this may clash with people not returning from Rimini in time, however
> it is a lot easier, and less costly to attempt to organise the event
quickly
> while we still have a window of opportunity.
> 2. The reason behind attempting such a rapid turnaround was partially to
do
> with the fact that there is no guarantee that this event will take place
in
> two weekends time, and then we will have to reschedule in the summer.
> 3. Why keep the summer free? - since the F&M crisis is continuing I fully
> expect that we may need some of the later summer weekends to recover other
> tour events. All the other events are on the edge of large tracts of
> farmland, and are equally susceptible as Bristol to being called off and
> postponed, unless of course the government comes up with a more successful
> plan than killing everything in sight with more than 3 legs.
>
> My apologies but unless the F&M crisis is brought to bear, then we are
> likely to face a very unpredictable year. May I suggest that all players
> check the britdisc archives, the buf website, or the TD for each event to
> ensure that play is taking place before you travel.
>
> Chris
>
> DoC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk [mailto:rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk]
> Sent: 06 April 2001 10:25
> To: BritDisc (E-mail)
> Subject: Rescheduling of Tour 1
>
>
> Thanks to Adam, Matt and Chris for keeping us informed and for reacting
> quickly and sensibly regarding arrangements for this weekend.
>
> However, Chevron would like to ask, in humble, non-accusatory tones, why
the
> need to reschedule the event to the 21st/22nd April? Chris rightly places
> importance on scheduling events as far in advance as possible, but this
> rescheduling gives us 2 weeks' notice of one of the key tournaments of the
> year. I'm sure this will affect many teams. Chevron, for example, work and
> train hard as a squad and were well prepared for this weekend, when we
would
> have fielded 15 or 16 players. For 21st/22nd April it looks like we'll
> manage 7 or 8.
>
> There is a danger of devaluing the tournament and, for some teams,
affecting
> their final placing in the Tour. Meanwhile as I look at the BUF Diary,
there
> is a very large August and September-shaped hole. I understand that
> decisions were (rightly) made very quickly yesterday, but was any
> consideration given to rescheduling the event to later in the year?
>
> Rob
> Chevron
>

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Dear Si and All

The restrictions advised would have been practically impossible to enforce
or adhere to this weekend as there are so many other events occuring at the
venue, each with different regulations (advisory only) needing to be adhered
to depending on the surface being played upon (grass, astro turf, clay etc).

The weekend of 21/22 has only us booked in (Clifton College were leaving it
free as they have heavy committments the following week) and so we will be
able to play on the site and effectively adhere to guidelines.

Relocating it to another time means effectively cancelling as this problem
is liable to get worse not better, and playing some Ultimate with slightly
weaker teams admitedly, is better than playing no ultimate.

Fatboy
PS I do empathise with you as some of our (Druids) best players are unable
to make the new date!

----- Original Message -----
From: si <simon@deerglen.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 2:04 AM
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> Chris, Adam, Matt & Britdisc
>
> Is the next available date (21-22 April) going to be available??? I would
> think NO would be the answer as its in an exclusion zone. So why are we
even
> thinking about suggesting the weekend of the 21/22 April???  too cancel it
> two days before again, then reschedule in the big gap in the summer would
be
> ludicrous.
> As I understand it these areas of exclusion will increase not decrease!!!
> Please let us know how in two weeks we will be able to use the venue??
> Lets get real and reschedule for another date at another venue, as this
one
> is under threat of not being available for the rest of the season!!!
(sorry
> Matt and Adam) As are other tournaments!!
> Alot of Ultimate players in across the board are going to Rimini and
> obviously as no ultimate tourneys were to be played on the 21-22 April
have
> extended their stay so will now miss (new date) Tour 1. Please reorganise
> the tour too either the three remaining events or cancel it altogether
((as
> the rugby should have been (Southern shandy drinkers game League is the
> Best)).
>
> Also many people will have lives outside of ultimate (even me), and so
have
> arranged our hectic non playing lives around the tour and other tourneys
> such as Rimini, Brugge, Prague, so moving this (fixed date) tour is going
to
> create more problems than it solves from mine and other peoples and team
> perspectives.
>
> Can I request an EGM of the BUF committee and representatives for all
teams
> too discuss this matter and the further implications that foot and mouth
may
> have on the rest of the year. And not leave this upto just the DoC (sorry
> Chris) (at least discuss openly and objectively this problem BUF
committee).
>
> Si.b xxx
> Chevy (but my own opinion)
>
> p.s. Could we also look at excluding RED from every event due to Leicester
> being a TB hotspot :-)
> p.p.s. All the above is to be regarded as null and void by no humour
players
> and committee members as written after too many beers ( that's bitter not
> lager you shandy drinkers) at £1.34 a pint (only in the north).
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "HUGHES, Chris" <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
> To: <rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk>; "BritDisc (E-mail)"
> <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:15 PM
> Subject: RE: Rescheduling of Tour 1
>
>
> > Rob (and I'm sure others)
> >
> > Later in the year was considered, but was discounted for a number of
> reasons
> > at this stage - yes there is a number of free weekends later in the
year,
> > but this is why we are not using them - yet.
> > 1. Adam has an opportunity to proceed with two weeks time - we were
aware
> > that this may clash with people not returning from Rimini in time,
however
> > it is a lot easier, and less costly to attempt to organise the event
> quickly
> > while we still have a window of opportunity.
> > 2. The reason behind attempting such a rapid turnaround was partially to
> do
> > with the fact that there is no guarantee that this event will take place
> in
> > two weekends time, and then we will have to reschedule in the summer.
> > 3. Why keep the summer free? - since the F&M crisis is continuing I
fully
> > expect that we may need some of the later summer weekends to recover
other
> > tour events. All the other events are on the edge of large tracts of
> > farmland, and are equally susceptible as Bristol to being called off and
> > postponed, unless of course the government comes up with a more
successful
> > plan than killing everything in sight with more than 3 legs.
> >
> > My apologies but unless the F&M crisis is brought to bear, then we are
> > likely to face a very unpredictable year. May I suggest that all players
> > check the britdisc archives, the buf website, or the TD for each event
to
> > ensure that play is taking place before you travel.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > DoC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk [mailto:rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk]
> > Sent: 06 April 2001 10:25
> > To: BritDisc (E-mail)
> > Subject: Rescheduling of Tour 1
> >
> >
> > Thanks to Adam, Matt and Chris for keeping us informed and for reacting
> > quickly and sensibly regarding arrangements for this weekend.
> >
> > However, Chevron would like to ask, in humble, non-accusatory tones, why
> the
> > need to reschedule the event to the 21st/22nd April? Chris rightly
places
> > importance on scheduling events as far in advance as possible, but this
> > rescheduling gives us 2 weeks' notice of one of the key tournaments of
the
> > year. I'm sure this will affect many teams. Chevron, for example, work
and
> > train hard as a squad and were well prepared for this weekend, when we
> would
> > have fielded 15 or 16 players. For 21st/22nd April it looks like we'll
> > manage 7 or 8.
> >
> > There is a danger of devaluing the tournament and, for some teams,
> affecting
> > their final placing in the Tour. Meanwhile as I look at the BUF Diary,
> there
> > is a very large August and September-shaped hole. I understand that
> > decisions were (rightly) made very quickly yesterday, but was any
> > consideration given to rescheduling the event to later in the year?
> >
> > Rob
> > Chevron
> >
>

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TOUR 2 Banbury
12/13 May 2001

Tour 2 is being held at Bodicote Park, Banbury on the weekend of the 12/13th
May. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 23rd of April.

We dont have a list of team addresses yet so snail mail invites will not go
out until after easter. If you know of teams who are not on Britdisc, please
bring the following to their notice

NUMBER OF TEAMS: We hope to accommodate 28 teams.

ENTRY FEE (excluding BUF tax) - as set out in the 2001 U8 documentation
distributed before Tour1.
Seeds 1-8 £165
Seeds 9-16 £135
Seeds 17+ £105

Send cheque payable to Paul Unwin to:
BUF Tour 2, 32 Chatsworth Drive, Banbury, Oxon, OX16 9TS

with the following details:
YOUR NAME:
TEAM NAME:
ADDRESS:
TEL NO:
MOBILE NO:
E-MAIL ADDRESS:

I shall not accept cheques given to me in person at Tour 1.

CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available with 24hr toilet facilities open to
all. Changing rooms with hot showers will be available.

FOOD - A BBQ will be laid on for Saturday evening, followed by a party and a
bar with a late licence, 'til1am.

DIRECTIONS TO BODICOTE PARK: Can be found at

http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/brufc/index.htm
http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/bodicotepark/index.htm#map

ACCOMMODATION: here is a list of BnBs/hotels:

Amberley Guest House 151 Middleton Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 255797
Ashley Guest House 58 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250539
Avonlea Guest House 41 Southam Road Banbury		Tel 01295 267837
Banbury Cross Bed and Breakfast 1 Brougton Rd Banbury	Tel 01295 266048
Belmont Guest House 34 Crouch Street Banbury 		Tel 01295 262308
Calthorpe Lodge Guest House 4 Calthorpe St Banbury 	Tel 01295 252325
Cotefield B & B 1 Cotefield Cottages Bodicote Banbury	Tel 01295 264977
Fairlawns Guest House 60 Oxford Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262461
Fair View Lodge Guest Hse 1 Fairview Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262181
Fernliegh Guest House 67 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250853
Prospect Guest House 70 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 268749
The Roebuck Inn Stratford Road  Drayton Banbury		Tel 01295 730542
Treetops Guest House 28 Dashwood Road Banbury 		Tel 01295 254444
Virginia House B&B 1 High Street Bloxham Banbury	Tel 01295 720596
Winstons Guest House 65 Oxford Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 270790


Hotels and Inns

The Cartwright arms Croughton Road Aynho Banbury	Tel 01869 811111
Cromwell Lodge Hotel 9-11 North Bar Banbury		Tel 01295 259781
Easington House Hotel 50 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 270181
The Deddington Arms HorsefAIr Deddington			Tel 01869
338364
Holcombe Hotel High Street Deddington			Tel 01869 338274
Horse and Groom Milcombe Banbury			Tel 01295 720471
Lismore Hotel 61 Oxford Road Banbury			Tel 01295 267661
The Marlborough Arms 1a Gatteridge St Banbury 		Tel 01295 258258
The Lampet Arms Main St Tadmarton Banbury		Tel 01295 780070
The Red Lion at Adderbury, Adderbury Banbury	Tel 01295 810269
The Swan Inn  3 South Bar Banbury				Tel 01295
262900

Jim has organised some discounts at selected BnBs and will be emailing you
with further details over the easter holiday. I am sure he'll have other
stuff to say too.

If you need either of us we can be contacted via:

Jim Unwin (for all cheques)
32 Chatsworth Drive
Banbury
Oxon OX16 9TS

E-mail address: punwin@grantham.ac.uk (for all queries)
jim.unwin@rsosoutheast.org.uk (if you cant raise Stig)
phone: 01476 577993 (Stigs home phone)

I am in Italy for Paganello, so if you have any queries wait until the 17th.


Stig

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Paul,

Since Tour 1 now isn't until  21st/22nd April and hence no-one will know
their exact seeding for T2 - how will any of the teams know how large a
cheque to send ??

I suppose every team could send 3 cheques : one for £105 and two for £30
each which could be cashed as appropriate ??

Balti
BAF 34


                                                                                                                     
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TOUR 2 Banbury
12/13 May 2001

Tour 2 is being held at Bodicote Park, Banbury on the weekend of the
12/13th
May. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 23rd of April.

We dont have a list of team addresses yet so snail mail invites will not go
out until after easter. If you know of teams who are not on Britdisc,
please
bring the following to their notice

NUMBER OF TEAMS: We hope to accommodate 28 teams.

ENTRY FEE (excluding BUF tax) - as set out in the 2001 U8 documentation
distributed before Tour1.
Seeds 1-8 £165
Seeds 9-16 £135
Seeds 17+ £105

Send cheque payable to Paul Unwin to:
BUF Tour 2, 32 Chatsworth Drive, Banbury, Oxon, OX16 9TS

with the following details:
YOUR NAME:
TEAM NAME:
ADDRESS:
TEL NO:
MOBILE NO:
E-MAIL ADDRESS:

I shall not accept cheques given to me in person at Tour 1.

CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available with 24hr toilet facilities open to
all. Changing rooms with hot showers will be available.

FOOD - A BBQ will be laid on for Saturday evening, followed by a party and
a
bar with a late licence, 'til1am.

DIRECTIONS TO BODICOTE PARK: Can be found at

http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/brufc/index.htm
http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/bodicotepark/index.htm#map

ACCOMMODATION: here is a list of BnBs/hotels:

Amberley Guest House 151 Middleton Road Banbury    Tel 01295 255797
Ashley Guest House 58 Oxford Road Banbury          Tel 01295 250539
Avonlea Guest House 41 Southam Road Banbury        Tel 01295 267837
Banbury Cross Bed and Breakfast 1 Brougton Rd Banbury   Tel 01295 266048
Belmont Guest House 34 Crouch Street Banbury            Tel 01295 262308
Calthorpe Lodge Guest House 4 Calthorpe St Banbury      Tel 01295 252325
Cotefield B & B 1 Cotefield Cottages Bodicote Banbury   Tel 01295 264977
Fairlawns Guest House 60 Oxford Road Banbury  Tel 01295 262461
Fair View Lodge Guest Hse 1 Fairview Road Banbury  Tel 01295 262181
Fernliegh Guest House 67 Oxford Road Banbury       Tel 01295 250853
Prospect Guest House 70 Oxford Road Banbury        Tel 01295 268749
The Roebuck Inn Stratford Road  Drayton Banbury         Tel 01295 730542
Treetops Guest House 28 Dashwood Road Banbury           Tel 01295 254444
Virginia House B&B 1 High Street Bloxham Banbury   Tel 01295 720596
Winstons Guest House 65 Oxford Road Banbury   Tel 01295 270790


Hotels and Inns

The Cartwright arms Croughton Road Aynho Banbury   Tel 01869 811111
Cromwell Lodge Hotel 9-11 North Bar Banbury        Tel 01295 259781
Easington House Hotel 50 Oxford Road Banbury       Tel 01295 270181
The Deddington Arms HorsefAIr Deddington                Tel 01869
338364
Holcombe Hotel High Street Deddington              Tel 01869 338274
Horse and Groom Milcombe Banbury              Tel 01295 720471
Lismore Hotel 61 Oxford Road Banbury               Tel 01295 267661
The Marlborough Arms 1a Gatteridge St Banbury           Tel 01295 258258
The Lampet Arms Main St Tadmarton Banbury          Tel 01295 780070
The Red Lion at Adderbury, Adderbury Banbury  Tel 01295 810269
The Swan Inn  3 South Bar Banbury                  Tel 01295
262900

Jim has organised some discounts at selected BnBs and will be emailing you
with further details over the easter holiday. I am sure he'll have other
stuff to say too.

If you need either of us we can be contacted via:

Jim Unwin (for all cheques)
32 Chatsworth Drive
Banbury
Oxon OX16 9TS

E-mail address: punwin@grantham.ac.uk (for all queries)
jim.unwin@rsosoutheast.org.uk (if you cant raise Stig)
phone: 01476 577993 (Stigs home phone)

I am in Italy for Paganello, so if you have any queries wait until the
17th.


Stig



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Best listening to Hughes here.

I am happy to delay the deadline to 30th April. assuming T1 goes ahead.
If T1 is abandoned, I'd then have to take £135 from all teams

Probably best for all to wait until after T1 to send cheques. As long as
your deposits are in (and i'm guaranteed 28 teams) there should be no
problem delaying sending payment' or as you point out Balti you could trust
us not to cash all the cheques and send 3.

Final word should come from DoC / U8 Comm.
I'll just do as I am told.

Stig

 ----------
From: James Hewitson
To: punwin@grantham.ac.uk
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; jim.unwin@rsosoutheast.org.uk;
owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Invites to Tour 2 Banbury
Date: 09 April 2001 10:53


Paul,

Since Tour 1 now isn't until  21st/22nd April and hence no-one will know
their exact seeding for T2 - how will any of the teams know how large a
cheque to send ??

I suppose every team could send 3 cheques : one for £105 and two for £30
each which could be cashed as appropriate ??

Balti
BAF 34



                    "Paul Unwin 
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<jim.unwin@rsosoutheast.org.uk>
                    c.uk>                     Subject:     Invites to Tour 2
Banbury
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                    09/04/01 10:40 







TOUR 2 Banbury
12/13 May 2001

Tour 2 is being held at Bodicote Park, Banbury on the weekend of the
12/13th
May. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 23rd of April.

We dont have a list of team addresses yet so snail mail invites will not go
out until after easter. If you know of teams who are not on Britdisc,
please
bring the following to their notice

NUMBER OF TEAMS: We hope to accommodate 28 teams.

ENTRY FEE (excluding BUF tax) - as set out in the 2001 U8 documentation
distributed before Tour1.
Seeds 1-8 £165
Seeds 9-16 £135
Seeds 17+ £105

Send cheque payable to Paul Unwin to:
BUF Tour 2, 32 Chatsworth Drive, Banbury, Oxon, OX16 9TS

with the following details:
YOUR NAME:
TEAM NAME:
ADDRESS:
TEL NO:
MOBILE NO:
E-MAIL ADDRESS:

I shall not accept cheques given to me in person at Tour 1.

CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available with 24hr toilet facilities open to
all. Changing rooms with hot showers will be available.

FOOD - A BBQ will be laid on for Saturday evening, followed by a party and
a
bar with a late licence, 'til1am.

DIRECTIONS TO BODICOTE PARK: Can be found at

http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/brufc/index.htm
http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/bodicotepark/index.htm#map

ACCOMMODATION: here is a list of BnBs/hotels:

Amberley Guest House 151 Middleton Road Banbury    Tel 01295 255797
Ashley Guest House 58 Oxford Road Banbury          Tel 01295 250539
Avonlea Guest House 41 Southam Road Banbury        Tel 01295 267837
Banbury Cross Bed and Breakfast 1 Brougton Rd Banbury   Tel 01295 266048
Belmont Guest House 34 Crouch Street Banbury            Tel 01295 262308
Calthorpe Lodge Guest House 4 Calthorpe St Banbury      Tel 01295 252325
Cotefield B & B 1 Cotefield Cottages Bodicote Banbury   Tel 01295 264977
Fairlawns Guest House 60 Oxford Road Banbury  Tel 01295 262461
Fair View Lodge Guest Hse 1 Fairview Road Banbury  Tel 01295 262181
Fernliegh Guest House 67 Oxford Road Banbury       Tel 01295 250853
Prospect Guest House 70 Oxford Road Banbury        Tel 01295 268749
The Roebuck Inn Stratford Road  Drayton Banbury         Tel 01295 730542
Treetops Guest House 28 Dashwood Road Banbury           Tel 01295 254444
Virginia House B&B 1 High Street Bloxham Banbury   Tel 01295 720596
Winstons Guest House 65 Oxford Road Banbury   Tel 01295 270790


Hotels and Inns

The Cartwright arms Croughton Road Aynho Banbury   Tel 01869 811111
Cromwell Lodge Hotel 9-11 North Bar Banbury        Tel 01295 259781
Easington House Hotel 50 Oxford Road Banbury       Tel 01295 270181
The Deddington Arms HorsefAIr Deddington                Tel 01869
338364
Holcombe Hotel High Street Deddington              Tel 01869 338274
Horse and Groom Milcombe Banbury              Tel 01295 720471
Lismore Hotel 61 Oxford Road Banbury               Tel 01295 267661
The Marlborough Arms 1a Gatteridge St Banbury           Tel 01295 258258
The Lampet Arms Main St Tadmarton Banbury          Tel 01295 780070
The Red Lion at Adderbury, Adderbury Banbury  Tel 01295 810269
The Swan Inn  3 South Bar Banbury                  Tel 01295
262900

Jim has organised some discounts at selected BnBs and will be emailing you
with further details over the easter holiday. I am sure he'll have other
stuff to say too.

If you need either of us we can be contacted via:

Jim Unwin (for all cheques)
32 Chatsworth Drive
Banbury
Oxon OX16 9TS

E-mail address: punwin@grantham.ac.uk (for all queries)
jim.unwin@rsosoutheast.org.uk (if you cant raise Stig)
phone: 01476 577993 (Stigs home phone)

I am in Italy for Paganello, so if you have any queries wait until the
17th.


Stig


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sorry for previous confusion.

Tour 2 entries

All teams pay £135.00 entrance fee for T2 by Monday 23rd April.



If T1 does not go ahead;
Banbury will be effectively T1 and the across the board entrance fee will be
fair as no team would be advantaged by quality of fields, or extra time on
pitch.

If T1 does go ahead
No-one will know where they are seeded (because T1 will not have happened by
the due date)

Top 8 from Tour 1 will be required to pay an additional £30 by the end of
Tour 2 or they will forfeit their points from the event - teams who have
overpaid (17+) will be refunded..


Stig

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How about Student teams? As I understood we'd have 
concessions wherever we're ranked. Apologies if I'm wrong - 
please do correct me!

Angie (Skunks)

> sorry for previous confusion.
> 
> Tour 2 entries
> 
> All teams pay £135.00 entrance fee for T2 by Monday 23rd April.
> 
> 
> 
> If T1 does not go ahead;
> Banbury will be effectively T1 and the across the board entrance fee will be
> fair as no team would be advantaged by quality of fields, or extra time on
> pitch.
> 
> If T1 does go ahead
> No-one will know where they are seeded (because T1 will not have happened by
> the due date)
> 
> Top 8 from Tour 1 will be required to pay an additional £30 by the end of
> Tour 2 or they will forfeit their points from the event - teams who have
> overpaid (17+) will be refunded..
> 
> 
> Stig

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Ever since the student eligibility problems that arose at the Midlands 
Student Indoor Qualifiers last year I have been waiting in the hope that 
some rules, clarification or otherwise would have been made available to 
student teams.

With the Student Outdoor Nationals less than three weeks away I am still 
unsure on this issue, as I expect are many other people.

Does anyone actually have a copy of the rules? Could they be posted on BD so 
we can all see them? I don't want to have to cite ignorance as a defence for 
fielding an ineligible player...


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Detailed below is the revised list for Tour 1. 

If you are considering pulling out then you will need
to do so by Tuesday the 17th of April.

There are places left for new entrants, if you are
going to enter I need to know by the above date.




Skunks
Northern Roses
L.S.I
Sublime
GB Juniors
Warwick Bears
Leicester Hustlers
Jedi Children
Mohawk MWNCI Magic
Strange Blue
Smash and Grab
Mild Mannered Janitors
Red
Whey!
Slipdisc
Fluid Druids
Flyght Club
LeedsLeedsLeeds
Hammerage
Teamshark
Un Poco Loco
Fever
Chevron Action Flash
Point Blank
Headrush
Clapham Ultimate 1
Clapham Ultimate 2
Blue Arse Flies Open
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Fusion 2

Cheers

Matt




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Does any teams need a player for tour 1?=20

I'm looking to pick up a team to play for at tour 1 as the team i was =
going to play for pulled out.

if anyone has can you contact me at this e-mail address please.

Cheers

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Is it too late to enter a team for the reorganised tour 1? Can someone
forward me contact details for the organisers and where exactly it is.

Thanks

Jo
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As half the crew are on the beach any *experienced* players in London are
welcome.

We play by Eagle Pond, 400 yards north of Clapham South tube station. 

12 sharp as some of us have appointments down the pub after!

Sorry for the late warning, cya there.

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TOUR 1 IS LOOKING ALL GOOD! ( Even good weather is being predicted!?!)

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Below is a list of B&B/Guest Houses in the Bristol
area. I can not vouch for any of these so its pot
luck.


FARLE VILLA	T:0117 9420809 T:07967 323 045
45 Sydenham Hill Bristol
 
EMMAUS HOUSE    T:0117 907 9950 F:0117 907 9952
Clifton Hill Clifton Bristol
 
DOWNS VIEW GUEST HOUSE	T:0117 973 7046 F:0117 973 8169
38 Upper Belgrave Road Clifton Bristol

CAMDEN HOTEL	T:0117 923 1062
129 Coronation Road Southville Bristol

TRICOMO HOUSE	T:0117 9248082
183 Cheltenham Road Bristol

TYNDALLS PARK HOTEL T:0117 9735407 T:0468 055717 
4 Tyndalls Park Road Clifton Bristol

MAISON GEORGE T:0117 963 9416 F:0117 953 5760
10 Greville Road Southville Bristol

NASEBY HOUSE HOTEL T:0117 973 7859 T:0117 908 0011 
105 Pembroke Road Clifton Bristol

WESTFIELD HOTEL T:0117 9626119
37 Stoke Hill Sneyd Park Bristol

ORCHARD END 	T:01454 632969 F:01454 633594
New Passage Road Pilning Near Bristol

ARCHES HOTEL	T:0117 924 7398132 F:0117 924 7398
Cotham Brow Cotham Bristol

ROSEBERY HOUSE 	T:0117 914 9508 T:0777 187 1251 F:0117
914 9508
14 Camden Terrace Clifton Bristol

OAKFIELD HOTEL 	T:0117 973 5556 T:0117 973 3643 
52-54 Oakfield Road Clifton Bristol

SUNDERLAND GUEST HOUSE T:0117 973 7249
4 Sunderland Place Off St Paul's Road Clifton, Bristol

CUMBERLAND GUEST HOUSE	T:0117 966 0810 F:0117 966 0810
6 Clift House Road Ashton Bristol

WESTBOURNE HOTEL T:0117 973 4214 F:0117 974 3552
40-44 St Pauls Road Clifton Bristol

TURVILLE COUNTRY ACCOMMODATION	T:01454 633304
Northwick Road Pilning South Gloucestershire 

Cheers

Matt


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Hi

Does anyone have an email address for Si Weeks at the moment?

Thanks

Paul

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Strange Blue (Cambridge) are seeking about three players for the =
YesButNau beach tournament in France, 2 - 4 June (bank holiday weekend) =
- as we are down to 7. Sob.

Anyone with handling experience and good beer drinking ability can =
apply.  A car might be handy as well, depending on how we get there....=20

If you're interested, Email me back at:
djc43@cam.ac.uk

Cheers,

David Cox

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depending on how=20
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Don't want to seem impatient, but I was wondering whether Matt or FatBoy
have any information about the camping situation at Bristol?

If I remember correctly, Matt said that the camping was TBA, and then his
last e-mail just listed a load of B&Bs.  Are we to take it that this means
no camping available?

Thanx in advance for a prompt reply,

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FAO Student Ultimate Teams:
Hopefully there are no viruses with this email (just don't download any =
attachments that I send).

Student National Outdoor Ultimate Tournament=20
a.k.a. SNOUT
28/29th April, in York.=20
The deadline for first teams getting priority has passed, so, the teams =
who definitely have places are the following:

YBK 1 =20
Strange Blue
Skunks 1
Jedi 1
Sublime
Northern Lights
Bears 1
RSB 1
Mythago 1
Fish
Mohawks 1
Disciples
Picnic
Mynci See
Ow! 1
Phat 'Eds 1
Jesters
Purple Haze
Hulltimate
Far Flung
Random Fling
Y2K
Skunks 2
Jedi 2
Bears 2
RSB 2
Mythago 2
Mohawks 2
Ow! 2
Phat 'Eds 2

That makes 30 teams, and I have been told there are cheques in the post =
from Boogie Knights and Disc Doctors. Shooting Stars - where has your =
cheque got to?

We should be mailing you directions, receipts and stuff soon. In the =
meantime, cheque out the website : www.yorkultimate.co.uk

If everything goes to plan there will be tournament discs and t-shirts =
available - hopefully the designs will be on the website soon. If you =
want to order any then email Andy at ajg112@ohm.york.ac.uk

I think that that is all for now, but we will keep you informed of =
further developments. For your peace of mind we are almost 100% safe =
from foot and mouth (there is a donkey quite near the field), and the =
camping is fine.

Finally, we will be cashing the cheques on Monday (23rd?) before the =
tournament - please make sure you have enough in your accounts. (Nicole =
- I know!)

OK, see you all soon,
Tom
YBK
ps Tim Blair can you phone me please?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FAO Student Ultimate =
Teams:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hopefully there are no viruses with =
this email=20
(just don't download any attachments that I send).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Student National Outdoor Ultimate =
Tournament=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a.k.a. SNOUT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>28/29th April, in York. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The deadline for first teams getting =
priority has=20
passed, so, the teams who definitely have places are the =
following:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>YBK 1&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Strange Blue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Skunks 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jedi 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sublime</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Northern Lights</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bears 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RSB 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mythago 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fish</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mohawks 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Disciples</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Picnic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mynci See</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ow! 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Phat 'Eds 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jesters</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Purple Haze</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hulltimate</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Far Flung</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Random Fling</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Y2K</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Skunks 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jedi 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bears 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RSB 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mythago 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mohawks 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ow! 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Phat 'Eds 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That makes 30 teams, and I have been =
told there are=20
cheques in the post from Boogie Knights and Disc Doctors. Shooting Stars =
-=20
where&nbsp;has your cheque got to?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We should be mailing you directions, =
receipts and=20
stuff soon. In the meantime, cheque out the website : <A=20
href=3D"http://www.yorkultimate.co.uk">www.yorkultimate.co.uk</A></FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If everything goes to plan there will =
be tournament=20
discs and t-shirts available - hopefully the designs will be on the =
website=20
soon. If you want to order any then email Andy at <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ajg112@ohm.york.ac.uk">ajg112@ohm.york.ac.uk</A></FONT></D=
IV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that that is all for now, but =
we will keep=20
you informed of further developments. For your peace of mind we are =
almost 100%=20
safe from foot and mouth (there is a donkey quite near the field), and =
the=20
camping is fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Finally, we will be cashing the cheques =
on Monday=20
(23rd?) before the tournament - please make sure you have enough in your =

accounts. (Nicole - I know!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK, see you all soon,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>YBK</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ps Tim Blair can you phone me=20
please?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Well done everybody!!

Dora
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Date: Tue, Apr 17, 2001, 3:39 pm



PAGANELLO2001: il Mondo in una Spiaggia
FINAL RESULTS

**Open
1. UTI UK (World Beach Ultimate Champions 2001) 
2. Collard Greens USA
3. Mir San Mir Germany
4. Catch22 UK
5. Cota Rica Italy
6. No Tsu Oh USA
7. Feldrenner Germany
8. Fuzzy Bunny USA
9. Tatti ja Piima II Finland 
10. Zamperl Germany
11. Crunch Holland
12. Chicago USA
13. Sydney2000 Holland
14. Chevron Action Flash. UK
15. Feed The Chicken Canada
16. Arsenic France
17. FAB Switzerland
18. Backstreet Toys Germany
19. Patatas Bravas Spain
20. Team42 Germany
21. Quattro Stazioni Germany
22. CUSB Italy
23. Pele Mana USA
24. Tsunami Sweden
25. Wall City Germany
26. Salutami 'ntonio Italy
27. Jet Set Belgium
28. thebigez Austria
29. Morko Finland
30. Paprikas Hungary
31. Mental Discorders Slovakia
32. Mucche Al Pascolo
33. Catchup Austria
34. ZUF Switzerland
35. Bondi Buds Australia
36. Wrecked Beach Canada
37. OW! UK
38. Hammerage UK
39. Superfly UK
40. Kyntajat Finland
41. Meltdown Ukraine
42. Wizards Switzerland
43. Upsaidaisy Austria
44. Cota Junior Italy
45. Fattanza Italy
46. Les Frisbeurs Nantais France
47. Red I's Switzerland
48. Flying Bisch' Italy

Spirit Of The Game: Meltdown Ukraine


**Women's
1. Bliss UK (World Beach Ultimate Champions 2001)
2. Old Ones Holland
3. Flying V's Sweden
4. Coastal Tendencies USA
5. Shazam! USA
6. Siren's Canada
7. Maitotytot Finland
8. Shoot from the Hip Germany
9. Tank Girls Germany
10. Villit Venlat Finland
11. Mavis UK
12. Yahoo Austria
13. Mainzelmaedchen
14. Tequila Boom Boom Italy
15. CUSB Bologna
16. Berzerker! USA
17. Swiss Mix Switzerland
18. Crema Catalana Spain
19. Mucche al Pascolo Italy
20. Bonbons Roses France

Spirit Of The Game: Villit Venlat Finland


**Mixed
1. Thrill Ride USA (World Beach Ultimate Champions 2001)
2. Poughkeepsie UK
3. Fish 'n Fritz International
4. Horned Melons USA
5. Huck Finn USA
6. KUPA New Zealand
7. Fingers Switzerland
8. XLR8RS Belgium
9. Clac Clac France
10. Sunny Sandgropers
11. Copenaghen Denmark
12. DISConnection Germany
13. 98% Funky Stuff Germany
14. Aged To Perfection
15. Pookas Ireland
16. Brasil Brazil
17. Wunderteam Austria
18. Les Tondeurs Canada
19. Voladora Italy
20. Mild Mannered Janitors

Spirit Of The Game: Les Tondeurs Canada

Ciao!
-Jumpi

http://www.paganello.com

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PAGANELLO2001: il Mondo in una Spiaggia
FINAL RESULTS

**Open
1. UTI UK (World Beach Ultimate Champions 2001)
2. Collard Greens USA
3. Mir San Mir Germany
4. Catch22 UK
5. Cota Rica Italy
6. No Tsu Oh USA
7. Feldrenner Germany
8. Fuzzy Bunny USA
9. Tatti ja Piima II Finland
10. Zamperl Germany
11. Crunch Holland
12. Chicago USA
13. Sydney2000 Holland
14. Chevron Action Flash UK
15. Feed The Chicken Canada
16. Arsenic France
17. FAB Switzerland
18. Backstreet Toys Germany
19. Patatas Bravas Spain
20. Team42 Germany
21. Quattro Stazioni Germany
22. CUSB Italy
23. Pele Mana USA
24. Tsunami Sweden
25. Wall City Germany
26. Salutami 'ntonio Italy
27. Jet Set Belgium
28. thebigez Austria
29. Morko Finland
30. Paprikas Hungary
31. Mental Discorders Slovakia
32. Mucche Al Pascolo Italy
33. Catchup Austria
34. ZUF Switzerland
35. Bondi Buds Australia
36. Wrecked Beach Canada
37. OW! UK
38. Hammerage UK
39. Superfly UK
40. Kyntajat Finland
41. Meltdown Ukraine
42. Wizards Switzerland
43. Upsaidaisy Austria
44. Cota Junior Italy
45. Fattanza Italy
46. Les Frisbeurs Nantais France
47. Red I's Switzerland
48. Flying Bisch' Italy

Spirit Of The Game: Meltdown Ukraine


**Women's
1. Bliss UK (World Beach Ultimate Champions 2001)
2. Old Ones Holland
3. Flying V's Sweden
4. Coastal Tendencies USA
5. Shazam! USA
6. Siren's Canada
7. Maitotytot Finland
8. Shoot from the Hip Germany
9. Tank Girls Germany
10. Villit Venlat Finland
11. Mavis UK
12. Yahoo Austria
13. Mainzelmaedchen Germany
14. Tequila Boom Boom Italy
15. CUSB Italy
16. Berzerker! USA
17. Swiss Mix Switzerland
18. Crema Catalana Spain
19. Mucche al Pascolo Italy
20. Bonbons Roses France

Spirit Of The Game: Villit Venlat Finland


**Mixed
1. Thrill Ride USA (World Beach Ultimate Champions 2001)
2. Poughkeepsie UK
3. Fish 'n Fritz International
4. Horned Melons USA
5. Huck Finn USA
6. KUPA New Zealand
7. Fingers Switzerland
8. XLR8RS Belgium
9. Clac Clac France
10. Sunny Sandgropers Australia
11. Copenaghen Denmark
12. DISConnection Germany
13. 98% Funky Stuff Germany
14. Aged To Perfection Canada
15. Pookas Ireland
16. Brasil Brazil
17. Wunderteam Austria
18. Les Tondeurs Canada
19. Voladora Italy
20. Mild Mannered Janitors UK

Spirit Of The Game: Les Tondeurs Canada

Ciao!
-Jumpi

All the results of all the games downloadable on the site (pdf format):
http://www.paganello.com


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Another last minute plea for someone to collect the Aircast compression icer 
(for want of a better description!) from Colchester and take it to Tour 
1....please!
Anyone able to do this???
Thanks
Paul

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Another last minute plea for someone to collect the Aircast compression icer 
<BR>(for want of a better description!) from Colchester and take it to Tour 
<BR>1....please!
<BR>Anyone able to do this???
<BR>Thanks
<BR>Paul
<BR>
<BR>Dr Paul Marfleet
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My new zipped Champion Jumper, bought due to the
adverse weather in Rimini, was accidently taken (I
presume) on Monday nite at the Rose and Crown.....
please can I have it back at TourI please? no blame to
atributed due to amount of lager likely to have been
involved.
Cheers 
Wigsy
p.s. though it pains me, well done ShmuTI and well
done all teams in general!!!

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Detailed below is the completed list for Tour 1.


I will be sending out the guidelines for Tour 1
tomorrow, please read them. This means EVERYONE who is
aiming at being there!! 


1.Skunks
2.Sublime
3.GB Juniors
4.Warwick Bears
5.Jedi Children
6.Mohawk MWNCI Magic
7.UWE
8.Strange Blue
9.Smash and Grab
10.Mild Mannered Janitors
11.Red
12.Whey!
13.Slipdisc
14.Fluid Druids
15.Flyght Club
16.LeedsLeedsLeeds
17.Hammerage
18.Teamshark
19.Un Poco Loco
20.Fever
21.Chevron Action Flash
22.Point Blank
23.Headrush
24.Clapham Ultimate 1
25.Clapham Ultimate 2
26.Blue Arse Flies Open
27.Blue Arse Flies Mixed
28.Fusion 1
29.Fusion 2
30.Albertros 


Due to there being no camping on site we have decided
to cancel the party. We are trying to come up with a
better idea, which at short
notice is not easy. The cheap food option is still
available for all involved.

Sorry about the depleted numbers, there were a lot
more teams coming before the foot and mouth situation
.


The refunds for Teams that have overpaid will be
handed out at the Captains meeting on the Saturday
morning.


B&B Info..............

In reference to the questions as to the distance from
the B&B's it should only be around 1 to 3 miles. When
you
book the accommodation ask how close it is to the
Clifton suspension bridge, your about 500 yards from
there.
	
		

Camping...........



As you all were informed by Adam last week there is no
camping on site
I have not checked on any of these alternatives, it is
the best that I could come up with. Foot and Mouth has
been a problem throughout the organisation of this
whole Tour, especially in relation to the camping so I
do apologise for the delay.
I would try the first option of the Salthouse Farm at
Seven Beach first as it is going to be the closest to
the Tour. I would have liked to have found out the
availability for you but I am up to my eyes at the
moment.

Salthouse Farm Caravan & Camp Park
Severn Beach
Bristol
BS12 3NH
Tel: 01454 632274 & 632699

>From M48 exit 1 take A403 (Avonmouth) for 3 miles to
Pilning. At traffic lights turn right B4064 to Severn
Beach. Site 1 mile on right. Alternatively M5 exit 1
to Pilning. Signposted.

Brean Leisure Park
Coast Road
Brean
Burnham-on-Sea
Somerset
TA8 2RF
Tel: 01278 751595
E-mail: admin@holidayunity.demon.co.uk

Exit M5 at junction 22, follow brown signs for Brean
Leisure Park. Approximately 5 miles from M5.
Signposted.

Country View Caravan Park
Sand Road
Sand Bay
Weston-super-Mare
BS22 9UJ
Tel: 01934 627595 & 0385 245461

Junction 21 off M5. Right at Sainsbury's Homebase onto
Queensway, into Lower Norton Lane. Right into Sand
Road. Entrance on right. Signposted.

Weston Gateway Tourist Caravan Park
Wesk Wick
Weston-super-Mare
BS24 7TF
Tel: 01934 510344

Off M5 junction 21, A370 Weston-super-Mare, then 1st
left. Site on right 300 yds. Signposted.


It is now to late for anyone to pullout.


Cheers

Matt





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<P>Hmm, don't remember any message from Adam saying there was definately no camping onsite. Still I'm sure most people have got something sorted already during the communications silence. </P>
<P>Still, at least we're going ahead, so cheers Matt and Adam, it can't have been easy to sort out all the foot and mouth crap.</P>
<P>Might even be sunny.......</P>
<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Taz (Bears)<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Mathew Edwards<MATTEEDWARDS@YAHOO.CO.UK> 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;CC: adam batchelor<ADAM.BATCHELOR@VIRGIN.NET> 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Tour 1 info &amp; other relative stuff 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:43:43 +0100 (BST) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Detailed below is the completed list for Tour 1. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I will be sending out the guidelines for Tour 1 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;tomorrow, please read them. This means EVERYONE who is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;aiming at being there!! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;1.Skunks 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;2.Sublime 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;3.GB Juniors 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;4.Warwick Bears 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;5.Jedi Children 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;6.Mohawk MWNCI Magic 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;7.UWE 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;8.Strange Blue 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;9.Smash and Grab 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;10.Mild Mannered Janitors 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;11.Red 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;12.Whey! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;13.Slipdisc 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;14.Fluid Druids 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;15.Flyght Club 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;16.LeedsLeedsLeeds 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;17.Hammerage 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;18.Teamshark 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;19.Un Poco Loco 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;20.Fever 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;21.Chevron Action Flash 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;22.Point Blank 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;23.Headrush 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;24.Clapham Ultimate 1 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;25.Clapham Ultimate 2 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;26.Blue Arse Flies Open 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;27.Blue Arse Flies Mixed 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;28.Fusion 1 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;29.Fusion 2 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;30.Albertros 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Due to there being no camping on site we have decided 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to cancel the party. We are trying to come up with a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;better idea, which at short 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;notice is not easy. The cheap food option is still 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;available for all involved. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sorry about the depleted numbers, there were a lot 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;more teams coming before the foot and mouth situation 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The refunds for Teams that have overpaid will be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;handed out at the Captains meeting on the Saturday 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;morning. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;B&amp;B Info.............. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;In reference to the questions as to the distance from 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the B&amp;B's it should only be around 1 to 3 miles. When 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;book the accommodation ask how close it is to the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Clifton suspension bridge, your about 500 yards from 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;there. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Camping........... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;As you all were informed by Adam last week there is no 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;camping on site 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I have not checked on any of these alternatives, it is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the best that I could come up with. Foot and Mouth has 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;been a problem throughout the organisation of this 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;whole Tour, especially in relation to the camping so I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;do apologise for the delay. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I would try the first option of the Salthouse Farm at 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Seven Beach first as it is going to be the closest to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the Tour. I would have liked to have found out the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;availability for you but I am up to my eyes at the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;moment. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Salthouse Farm Caravan &amp; Camp Park 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Severn Beach 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Bristol 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;BS12 3NH 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01454 632274 &amp; 632699 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From M48 exit 1 take A403 (Avonmouth) for 3 miles to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Pilning. At traffic lights turn right B4064 to Severn 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Beach. Site 1 mile on right. Alternatively M5 exit 1 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to Pilning. Signposted. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Brean Leisure Park 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Coast Road 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Brean 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Burnham-on-Sea 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Somerset 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;TA8 2RF 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01278 751595 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;E-mail: admin@holidayunity.demon.co.uk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Exit M5 at junction 22, follow brown signs for Brean 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Leisure Park. Approximately 5 miles from M5. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Signposted. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Country View Caravan Park 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sand Road 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sand Bay 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Weston-super-Mare 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;BS22 9UJ 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01934 627595 &amp; 0385 245461 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Junction 21 off M5. Right at Sainsbury's Homebase onto 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Queensway, into Lower Norton Lane. Right into Sand 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Road. Entrance on right. Signposted. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Weston Gateway Tourist Caravan Park 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wesk Wick 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Weston-super-Mare 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;BS24 7TF 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01934 510344 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Off M5 junction 21, A370 Weston-super-Mare, then 1st 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;left. Site on right 300 yds. Signposted. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;It is now to late for anyone to pullout. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Cheers 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Matt 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
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<P>Hmm, don't remember any message from Adam saying there was definately no camping onsite. Still I'm sure most people have got something sorted already during the communications silence. </P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>Still, at least we're going ahead, so cheers Matt and Adam, it can't have been easy to sort out all the foot and mouth crap.</P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>Might even be sunny.......</P>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Taz (Bears)<BR><BR></P>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Mathew Edwards<MATTEEDWARDS@YAHOO.CO.UK> 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;CC: adam batchelor<ADAM.BATCHELOR@VIRGIN.NET> 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Tour 1 info &amp; other relative stuff 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:43:43 +0100 (BST) 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Detailed below is the completed list for Tour 1. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I will be sending out the guidelines for Tour 1 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;tomorrow, please read them. This means EVERYONE who is 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;aiming at being there!! 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;1.Skunks 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;2.Sublime 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;3.GB Juniors 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;4.Warwick Bears 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;5.Jedi Children 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;6.Mohawk MWNCI Magic 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;7.UWE 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;8.Strange Blue 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;9.Smash and Grab 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;10.Mild Mannered Janitors 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;11.Red 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;12.Whey! 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;13.Slipdisc 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;14.Fluid Druids 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;15.Flyght Club 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;16.LeedsLeedsLeeds 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;17.Hammerage 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;18.Teamshark 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;19.Un Poco Loco 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;20.Fever 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;21.Chevron Action Flash 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;22.Point Blank 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;23.Headrush 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;24.Clapham Ultimate 1 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;25.Clapham Ultimate 2 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;26.Blue Arse Flies Open 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;27.Blue Arse Flies Mixed 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;28.Fusion 1 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;29.Fusion 2 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;30.Albertros 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Due to there being no camping on site we have decided 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to cancel the party. We are trying to come up with a 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;better idea, which at short 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;notice is not easy. The cheap food option is still 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;available for all involved. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sorry about the depleted numbers, there were a lot 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;more teams coming before the foot and mouth situation 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The refunds for Teams that have overpaid will be 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;handed out at the Captains meeting on the Saturday 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;morning. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;B&amp;B Info.............. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;In reference to the questions as to the distance from 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the B&amp;B's it should only be around 1 to 3 miles. When 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;book the accommodation ask how close it is to the 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Clifton suspension bridge, your about 500 yards from 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;there. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Camping........... 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;As you all were informed by Adam last week there is no 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;camping on site 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I have not checked on any of these alternatives, it is 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the best that I could come up with. Foot and Mouth has 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;been a problem throughout the organisation of this 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;whole Tour, especially in relation to the camping so I 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;do apologise for the delay. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I would try the first option of the Salthouse Farm at 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Seven Beach first as it is going to be the closest to 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the Tour. I would have liked to have found out the 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;availability for you but I am up to my eyes at the 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;moment. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Salthouse Farm Caravan &amp; Camp Park 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Severn Beach 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Bristol 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;BS12 3NH 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01454 632274 &amp; 632699 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From M48 exit 1 take A403 (Avonmouth) for 3 miles to 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Pilning. At traffic lights turn right B4064 to Severn 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Beach. Site 1 mile on right. Alternatively M5 exit 1 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to Pilning. Signposted. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Brean Leisure Park 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Coast Road 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Brean 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Burnham-on-Sea 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Somerset 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;TA8 2RF 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01278 751595 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;E-mail: admin@holidayunity.demon.co.uk 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Exit M5 at junction 22, follow brown signs for Brean 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Leisure Park. Approximately 5 miles from M5. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Signposted. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Country View Caravan Park 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sand Road 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sand Bay 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Weston-super-Mare 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;BS22 9UJ 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01934 627595 &amp; 0385 245461 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Junction 21 off M5. Right at Sainsbury's Homebase onto 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Queensway, into Lower Norton Lane. Right into Sand 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Road. Entrance on right. Signposted. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Weston Gateway Tourist Caravan Park 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wesk Wick 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Weston-super-Mare 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;BS24 7TF 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01934 510344 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Off M5 junction 21, A370 Weston-super-Mare, then 1st 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;left. Site on right 300 yds. Signposted. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;It is now to late for anyone to pullout. 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Cheers 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Matt 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;____________________________________________________________ 
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<P>Hmm, don't remember any message from Adam saying there was definately no camping onsite. Still I'm sure most people have got something sorted already during the communications silence. </P>
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<P>Still, at least we're going ahead, so cheers Matt and Adam, it can't have been easy to sort out all the foot and mouth crap.</P>
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<P>Might even be sunny.......</P>
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Taz (Bears)<BR><BR></P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Tour 1 info &amp; other relative stuff 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:43:43 +0100 (BST) 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Detailed below is the completed list for Tour 1. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;8.Strange Blue 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;9.Smash and Grab 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;10.Mild Mannered Janitors 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;11.Red 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;12.Whey! 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;13.Slipdisc 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;20.Fever 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;21.Chevron Action Flash 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;22.Point Blank 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;23.Headrush 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;24.Clapham Ultimate 1 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;25.Clapham Ultimate 2 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;26.Blue Arse Flies Open 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;notice is not easy. The cheap food option is still 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;The refunds for Teams that have overpaid will be 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;handed out at the Captains meeting on the Saturday 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;B&amp;B Info.............. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;In reference to the questions as to the distance from 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;I have not checked on any of these alternatives, it is 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;I would try the first option of the Salthouse Farm at 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Weston Gateway Tourist Caravan Park 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Tel: 01934 510344 
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Dear all

Please remember that you MUST send me deposit cheques for the Tour events
before you are allowed to enter and before the deadline (which is way past)!
Having seen Matt's new Tour 1 list could the following teams please contact
me.

UWE and Albatross I need deposit cheques from you before you can play in
Tour 1. Please send it first class today to my address below. If you are one
of the teams listed below please tell me so I can associate your cheque with
your 2 names.

Leicester Hustlers, Northern Roses and LSI: If you are not going to Tour 1
please contact me so I can arrange for your deposit cheques to be either
refunded or destroyed.

Cheers
Dora Kemp

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Subject: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance
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From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
To: "britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Cc: <ben@ravilious.net>
Subject: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:08:59 +0100

Dear all

Captains meeting at 8.45am

Please ensure all your team adhere to these rules.

Attatched is the MAFF guidance.

[NB THE BRITDISC LIST DOES NOT LIKE ATTACHMENTS (regardless of spelling) SO
IF YOU WANT THE FULL MAFF DETAILS, PLEASE CONTACT ADAM OR MATT DIRECTLY -
if a TD or anyone else needs to make large bits of information available to
britdisc readers, simply put them on a website and provide the URL.]

This is what it means to YOU:

  1.. No food & drink to be taken onto the premises! (Food at reasonable
prices will be available throughout the weekend)

  2.. On Saturday on arrival you must change into your sports kit (You
cannot arrive in your sports kit) having showered and washed your HAIR on
site. The clothes you arrived in must be sealed in a plastic bag and not
worn again until washed in hot water.

  3.. After you finish playing for the day you must shower and wash your
hair, seal your kit in a plastic bag and change into a fresh set of clothes.

  4.. On Sunday on arrival you must change into your sports kit (it can be
the same as Saturdays) (You cannot arrive in your sports kit) having
showered and washed your HAIR on site again. The clothes you arrived in
must be sealed in a plastic bag and not worn again until washed in hot
water. (they can be the clothes you wore the previous evening).

  5.. After you finish playing for the day you must shower and wash your
hair, seal your kit in a plastic bag and change into a fresh set of
clothes. Your kit must be washed in hot water before being worn again!

  6.. If you leave the site at any time during the weekend these
decontamination procedures must be followed. ie if you pop out for a pub
lunch etc you must shower, wash your hair and change into clean clothes.

You can get away with 4 sets of clothing:

  a.. Sat am               Clothes 1
  b.. Sat play             Kit 1
  c.. Sat eve              Clothes 2
  d.. Sun am               Clothes 2
  e.. Sun play             Kit 1
  f.. Sun pm               Clothes 3

Hope to see you all there Saturday

Adam & Matt


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The campsite recommended for Tour 1 (i.e. Salthouse farm caravan and Camp
Park) has no camping, due to Foot and Mouth.  However, another local site
not previously listed is:

Brook Lodge Camping & Caravan
Cowslip Green
Redhill
Bristol
BS40 5RD
Phone: 01934 862311

They have space at the moment.  Camping is 4GBP/Person/Night.  Just South
of Bristol airport, and is signposted.  Look on a map, or use the Breathe
routefinder with the above postcode.  It's about 9 miles away from the
Sports Fields, on the A road instead of the motorway.

And: it has been mentioned before that MAFF will provide disinfectant, but
at that point we weren't really discussing things in detail.  SO, the
question has to be asked: will be be provided with approved plastic bags
and tape to seal clothes in?  Will we be provided with approved
disinfectant shampoo to be washing our hair these four times?

-- 
Rich, Jedi
www.leedsjedi.com

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Subject: Re: [Headrush] Fw: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance
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Different rules apply to spectators. Read the attatchment.
But basically as a spectator you must disenfect your boots/shoes as you =
enter/leave. Buckets of disenfectant will be provided.

NB All players please clean your boots before you come

Cheers=20
Adam
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Adriano Vitali=20
  To: headr@yahoogroups.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [Headrush] Fw: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance


  I presume these guideliness are applicable to spectators too, i.e. set =
of clothes on the field instead of kit.=20
  I doubt I'll be able to play this weekend cos I cut my foot in Rimini =
and it's still giving me problems.=20
  Might see you there Saturday,=20

  VITO=20

  PS. Hope there's plenty of hot water for the showers!=20

  Adam Batchelor wrote:=20

     =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Adam Batchelor
    To: britdiscSent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:45 AMSubject: Fw: Tour =
1 foot & mouth guidance
      =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Adam Batchelor
    To: britdiscCc: ben@ravilious.netSent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 =
1:08 PMSubject: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance
     Dear all Captains meeting at 8.45am Please ensure all your team =
adhere to these rules. Attatched is the MAFF guidance. This is what it =
means to YOU:=20
      1.. No food & drink to be taken onto the premises! (Food at =
reasonable prices will be available throughout the weekend)=20
      2.. On Saturday on arrival you must change into your sports kit =
(You cannot arrive in your sports kit) having showered and washed your =
HAIR on site. The clothes you arrived in must be sealed in a plastic bag =
and not worn again until washed in hot water.=20
      3.. After you finish playing for the day you must shower and wash =
your hair, seal your kit in a plastic bag and change into a fresh set of =
clothes.=20
      4.. On Sunday on arrival you must change into your sports kit (it =
can be the same as Saturdays) (You cannot arrive in your sports kit) =
having showered and washed your HAIR on site again. The clothes you =
arrived in must be sealed in a plastic bag and not worn again until =
washed in hot water. (they can be the clothes you wore the previous =
evening).=20
      5.. After you finish playing for the day you must shower and wash =
your hair, seal your kit in a plastic bag and change into a fresh set of =
clothes. Your kit must be washed in hot water before being worn again!=20
      6.. If you leave the site at any time during the weekend these =
decontamination procedures must be followed. ie if you pop out for a pub =
lunch etc you must shower, wash your hair and change into clean clothes. =

    You can get away with 4 sets of clothing:=20
      a.. Sat am               Clothes 1=20
      b.. Sat play              Kit 1=20
      c.. Sat eve               Clothes 2=20
      d.. Sun am               Clothes 2=20
      e.. Sun play              Kit 1 Sun pm                Clothes 3
    Hope to see you all there Saturday Adam & Matt                       =
                                                                         =
                                          =20


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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 19, 2001 =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>I presume these guideliness are applicable to =
spectators too,=20
  i.e. set of clothes on the field instead of kit. <BR>I doubt I'll be =
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  play this weekend cos I cut my foot in Rimini and it's still giving me =

  problems.=20
  <P>Might see you there Saturday,=20
  <P>VITO=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
    <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
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title=3Dadam.batchelor@virgin.net>Adam=20
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taken onto=20
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throughout the=20
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      <LI><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D-1>On Saturday on arrival you =
must change=20
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in your=20
      sports kit) </FONT><FONT color=3D#000000>having showered and =
washed your=20
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arrived in=20
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The last thing I saw regarding camping for
Tour 1 was...
"To everyone waiting for a response about camping
facilities, If you could give me a week and I will
inform you of the alternative arrangements."

We were still under the assumption that on site camping 
to the tune of...
CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available with 24hr toilet facilities open to
all. Changing rooms with hot showers "yes, hot" will be readily accessible.
would be available. 
Did I miss an email stating otherwise.

Steve


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Hims [mailto:csxrrh@comp.leeds.ac.uk]
> Sent: 19 April 2001 11:46
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Tour 1 camping
> 
> 
> The campsite recommended for Tour 1 (i.e. Salthouse farm 
> caravan and Camp
> Park) has no camping, due to Foot and Mouth.  However, 
> another local site
> not previously listed is:
> 
> Brook Lodge Camping & Caravan
> Cowslip Green
> Redhill
> Bristol
> BS40 5RD
> Phone: 01934 862311
> 
> They have space at the moment.  Camping is 4GBP/Person/Night. 
>  Just South
> of Bristol airport, and is signposted.  Look on a map, or use 
> the Breathe
> routefinder with the above postcode.  It's about 9 miles away from the
> Sports Fields, on the A road instead of the motorway.
> 
> And: it has been mentioned before that MAFF will provide 
> disinfectant, but
> at that point we weren't really discussing things in detail.  SO, the
> question has to be asked: will be be provided with approved 
> plastic bags
> and tape to seal clothes in?  Will we be provided with approved
> disinfectant shampoo to be washing our hair these four times?
> 
> -- 
> Rich, Jedi
> www.leedsjedi.com
> 

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thanks Adam for the prompt information. it's definitely going to be an
interesting tourny!

a few questions:

1. Can you guarantee there will be adequate, free drinking water by all
pitches. And that there will be suitable things to actually drink out of (i
don't fancy spending all weekend swigging from one of those huge 24litre
water containers)?

2. If we are not allowed to bring food onto the site, how does the sports
centre get *its* food onto the site?

3. What time are the showers open in the morning - it's going to take some
time to get the everyone showered. Are you going to delay the start of the
first games accordingly?

4. Some of us are staying in accomodation literally over the road from the
pitches - is it okay for us to shower there before gaining access to the
grounds?

Here's hoping things go okay!

Thanks,
Andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
> Sent: 19 April 2001 09:12
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance
> 
> 
> From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
> To: "britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Cc: <ben@ravilious.net>
> Subject: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:08:59 +0100
> 
> Dear all
> 
> Captains meeting at 8.45am
> 
> Please ensure all your team adhere to these rules.
> 
> Attatched is the MAFF guidance.
> 
> [NB THE BRITDISC LIST DOES NOT LIKE ATTACHMENTS (regardless 
> of spelling) SO
> IF YOU WANT THE FULL MAFF DETAILS, PLEASE CONTACT ADAM OR 
> MATT DIRECTLY -
> if a TD or anyone else needs to make large bits of 
> information available to
> britdisc readers, simply put them on a website and provide the URL.]
> 
> This is what it means to YOU:
> 
>   1.. No food & drink to be taken onto the premises! (Food at 
> reasonable
> prices will be available throughout the weekend)
> 
>   2.. On Saturday on arrival you must change into your sports kit (You
> cannot arrive in your sports kit) having showered and washed 
> your HAIR on
> site. The clothes you arrived in must be sealed in a plastic 
> bag and not
> worn again until washed in hot water.
> 
>   3.. After you finish playing for the day you must shower 
> and wash your
> hair, seal your kit in a plastic bag and change into a fresh 
> set of clothes.
> 
>   4.. On Sunday on arrival you must change into your sports 
> kit (it can be
> the same as Saturdays) (You cannot arrive in your sports kit) having
> showered and washed your HAIR on site again. The clothes you 
> arrived in
> must be sealed in a plastic bag and not worn again until washed in hot
> water. (they can be the clothes you wore the previous evening).
> 
>   5.. After you finish playing for the day you must shower 
> and wash your
> hair, seal your kit in a plastic bag and change into a fresh set of
> clothes. Your kit must be washed in hot water before being worn again!
> 
>   6.. If you leave the site at any time during the weekend these
> decontamination procedures must be followed. ie if you pop 
> out for a pub
> lunch etc you must shower, wash your hair and change into 
> clean clothes.
> 
> You can get away with 4 sets of clothing:
> 
>   a.. Sat am               Clothes 1
>   b.. Sat play             Kit 1
>   c.. Sat eve              Clothes 2
>   d.. Sun am               Clothes 2
>   e.. Sun play             Kit 1
>   f.. Sun pm               Clothes 3
> 
> Hope to see you all there Saturday
> 
> Adam & Matt
> 
> 

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Disenfectant for shoes will be provided
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Hadfield <rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: Adam Batchelor <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance


> Question:
> Re footwear.
> Will there be disinfectant for washing shoes on site or do we need four
> sets of shoes also?
> Thanks
> Rob (SB)
>
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Adam Batchelor wrote:
>
> > From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
> > To: "britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> > Cc: <ben@ravilious.net>
> > Subject: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance
> > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:08:59 +0100
> >
> > Dear all
> >
> > Captains meeting at 8.45am
> >
> > Please ensure all your team adhere to these rules.
> >
> > Attatched is the MAFF guidance.
> >
> > [NB THE BRITDISC LIST DOES NOT LIKE ATTACHMENTS (regardless of spelling)
SO
> > IF YOU WANT THE FULL MAFF DETAILS, PLEASE CONTACT ADAM OR MATT
DIRECTLY -
> > if a TD or anyone else needs to make large bits of information available
to
> > britdisc readers, simply put them on a website and provide the URL.]
> >
> > This is what it means to YOU:
> >
> >   1.. No food & drink to be taken onto the premises! (Food at reasonable
> > prices will be available throughout the weekend)
> >
> >   2.. On Saturday on arrival you must change into your sports kit (You
> > cannot arrive in your sports kit) having showered and washed your HAIR
on
> > site. The clothes you arrived in must be sealed in a plastic bag and not
> > worn again until washed in hot water.
> >
> >   3.. After you finish playing for the day you must shower and wash your
> > hair, seal your kit in a plastic bag and change into a fresh set of
clothes.
> >
> >   4.. On Sunday on arrival you must change into your sports kit (it can
be
> > the same as Saturdays) (You cannot arrive in your sports kit) having
> > showered and washed your HAIR on site again. The clothes you arrived in
> > must be sealed in a plastic bag and not worn again until washed in hot
> > water. (they can be the clothes you wore the previous evening).
> >
> >   5.. After you finish playing for the day you must shower and wash your
> > hair, seal your kit in a plastic bag and change into a fresh set of
> > clothes. Your kit must be washed in hot water before being worn again!
> >
> >   6.. If you leave the site at any time during the weekend these
> > decontamination procedures must be followed. ie if you pop out for a pub
> > lunch etc you must shower, wash your hair and change into clean clothes.
> >
> > You can get away with 4 sets of clothing:
> >
> >   a.. Sat am               Clothes 1
> >   b.. Sat play             Kit 1
> >   c.. Sat eve              Clothes 2
> >   d.. Sun am               Clothes 2
> >   e.. Sun play             Kit 1
> >   f.. Sun pm               Clothes 3
> >
> > Hope to see you all there Saturday
> >
> > Adam & Matt
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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For some reason, both Paul's mail and Adam's prompt (but brief) reply came
to me, not to BritDisc.  So, just forwarding them (and should anyone else
choose to reply, please check it's going to BritDisc)

------Original Message------
From: Adam Batchelor <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
Subject: RE: Tour 1 camping

No

------Original Message------
From: Paul Meaney <Paul.Meaney@qa.com>
Subject: RE: Tour 1 camping


> And: it has been mentioned before that MAFF will provide
> disinfectant, but
> at that point we weren't really discussing things in detail.  SO, the
> question has to be asked: will we be provided with approved
> plastic bags
> and tape to seal clothes in?  Will we be provided with approved
> disinfectant shampoo to be washing our hair these four times?
>
> --

this is actually a very fair point.

somehow I don't think that a quick rubdown with some Lynx shower gel
and some head & shoulders will provide quite the antiviral properties
required.

Will such recommended cleaning agents be provided?

I feel that as adam and matt have put such a lot of effort into this
we should get it completely right.


Paul




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Subject: Re: Fw: Tour 1 foot & mouth guidance
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Can we bring our own drinking water?

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Further to Rich's email,

There is another campsite in Clevedon approx. 8 miles away from Abbots Leigh &
Clifton, I've spoken to the campsite manager and he assures me that there is
plenty of space for camping. The address is:

Warren's Holiday Village
Colehouse Lane
Clevedon
North Somerset
BS21 6TQ
Tel: 01275 871666

The price quoted is more expensive, £8-00 to £10-00 per day. If you want more
information go to this website:

www.ukparks.co.uk/warrens

Cheers, Den
(Mwnci Mohawk Magic)


Rich Hims wrote:

> The campsite recommended for Tour 1 (i.e. Salthouse farm caravan and Camp
> Park) has no camping, due to Foot and Mouth.  However, another local site
> not previously listed is:
>
> Brook Lodge Camping & Caravan
> Cowslip Green
> Redhill
> Bristol
> BS40 5RD
> Phone: 01934 862311
>
> They have space at the moment.  Camping is 4GBP/Person/Night.  Just South
> of Bristol airport, and is signposted.  Look on a map, or use the Breathe
> routefinder with the above postcode.  It's about 9 miles away from the
> Sports Fields, on the A road instead of the motorway.
>
> And: it has been mentioned before that MAFF will provide disinfectant, but
> at that point we weren't really discussing things in detail.  SO, the
> question has to be asked: will be be provided with approved plastic bags
> and tape to seal clothes in?  Will we be provided with approved
> disinfectant shampoo to be washing our hair these four times?
>
> --
> Rich, Jedi
> www.leedsjedi.com

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Normal shampoo is sufficient.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:17 PM
Subject: FWD: RE: Tour 1 camping


> For some reason, both Paul's mail and Adam's prompt (but brief) reply came
> to me, not to BritDisc.  So, just forwarding them (and should anyone else
> choose to reply, please check it's going to BritDisc)
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Adam Batchelor <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
> Subject: RE: Tour 1 camping
>
> No
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Paul Meaney <Paul.Meaney@qa.com>
> Subject: RE: Tour 1 camping
>
>
> > And: it has been mentioned before that MAFF will provide
> > disinfectant, but
> > at that point we weren't really discussing things in detail.  SO, the
> > question has to be asked: will we be provided with approved
> > plastic bags
> > and tape to seal clothes in?  Will we be provided with approved
> > disinfectant shampoo to be washing our hair these four times?
> >
> > --
>
> this is actually a very fair point.
>
> somehow I don't think that a quick rubdown with some Lynx shower gel
> and some head & shoulders will provide quite the antiviral properties
> required.
>
> Will such recommended cleaning agents be provided?
>
> I feel that as adam and matt have put such a lot of effort into this
> we should get it completely right.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> QA
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> Berks, RG20 4SW, UK
>
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J19 M5 - take the road signed to Bristol (the one after the services)
Follow the road for about 3? miles past The George pub , down the hill, =
up the hill, the road bends right, the entrance to Clifton College =
Sports Ground is on the right, on that bend. If you come to traffic =
lights with a right turn then you have gone 100 yards too far.

Cheers
Adam

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Adam

I imagine that showering all the players involved in the tournament before
starting on saturday could take some considerable amount of time depending on
the facilities available.

Therefore could you give us some information in advance such as each teams
saturday morning schedule so that those teams who are up first can make
allowances to be ready on time and those who know they are on later can allow
others ahead.

What will happen if teams are unable to field a line up due to players not being
showered?

I know they aren't your regulations but why do players need to go to these
extreme decontamination lengths (which seem flawed in my opinion) but spectators
don't. Surely both will come in contact with the same things?

Your efforts are appreciated and I'm sure everyone coming along will do their
best to help it all run as smoothly as possible.

Regards

Lars
Slipdisc


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does anyone have some floor space for about five leeds
jedi-esq student type people? we will all have very clean
hair.

pls call me on 07930 410280 if you have any space. 

thanks

robin grey
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Lars, (and everyone else asking lots of questions)

As you have identified these are not our rules that we are playing to - they
are the MAFF's, but we still have to go with them.

MAFF's assumption for spectators is that they won't sit down or do anything
else, only stand up. This is flawed but despite discussions they are happy
with this. Similarly as players we have to go through a huge amount of
cleaning ourselves, but they still consider some hay with disinfectant to be
suitable for cars. Yes, hot water and ordinary soap are enough to kill the
virus, it is easily denatured - but is also extremely virulent. Disinfectant
is required to kill it in cold water.

The food rules are similarly confusing and complicated - there are different
rules for different types of food, different packaging etc. So we have
simplified this by saying no food other than what is prepared on site - that
way the site caterers can comply with H&S and all of MAFF's reg's. The other
issue to this is not food prepared or purchased on site can be taken away.
Adam has assured me that all food will be reasonably priced.

Scheduling
Captains meeting is at 8:45. This is to ensure all teams are aware of the
regs and Captains are then responsible for ensuring that their team
complies.
We are planning for games to start at 9:15 - but do have some flexibility to
start late if there is a complete backlog of players wanting to get into the
showers. Aim to be ready to play at 9:15. We will not start games until all
players who arrived early are ready to go, but if you arrive at 9:10 and are
late 'cos you have had to shower, then unlucky - all usual rules apply for
lack of attendance.
End of day
Obviously 600 people diving for the showers at the end of the day will cause
chaos. So we have staggered the finishing times of the teams - even though
there are enough pitches to finish all the games at the same time. Please
stick to the schedule, and have patience at the end of the day. Similarly
get in the shower, wash, get out, leave - people will be waiting.

Kit
Tour rules indicate penalties for lack of suitable kit - IGNORE THESE - I am
well aware that playing kit does not dry well when sealed in a plastic bag.
Just make sure that you have enough light / dark shirts for each day.
Remember that the rules on clothing apply equally to jackets / coats /
waterproofs / etc.

I am well aware that ultimate players can be sensible, intelligent, and
responsible on the rare occasions they wish to be. Lets make the most of the
event.

Chris
DoC

PS - don't believe Adam's stories about good weather - we've just had half
an hour of snow in Cheltenham

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Adam

I imagine that showering all the players involved in the tournament before
starting on saturday could take some considerable amount of time depending
on
the facilities available.

Therefore could you give us some information in advance such as each teams
saturday morning schedule so that those teams who are up first can make
allowances to be ready on time and those who know they are on later can
allow
others ahead.

What will happen if teams are unable to field a line up due to players not
being
showered?

I know they aren't your regulations but why do players need to go to these
extreme decontamination lengths (which seem flawed in my opinion) but
spectators
don't. Surely both will come in contact with the same things?

Your efforts are appreciated and I'm sure everyone coming along will do
their
best to help it all run as smoothly as possible.

Regards

Lars
Slipdisc

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That doesn't answer the question about whether those of us staying in B&Bs
across the street from the pitches will be ok to shower there both at the
beginning and end of the day?
Also, are you saying that all teams are starting their games at 9.15? We'll
have to be there by 6am at least to get 600 people through the showers if
so...

Surely staggering the games at the start would automatically lead to a
staggering at the end, so wouldn't be too hard to organise? I realise this
would make the day longer, but we have light now until 8pm...

Ruth


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Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:38 PM
Subject: Tour 1 rules and scheduling


>Lars, (and everyone else asking lots of questions)
>
>As you have identified these are not our rules that we are playing to -
they
>are the MAFF's, but we still have to go with them.
>
>MAFF's assumption for spectators is that they won't sit down or do anything
>else, only stand up. This is flawed but despite discussions they are happy
>with this. Similarly as players we have to go through a huge amount of
>cleaning ourselves, but they still consider some hay with disinfectant to
be
>suitable for cars. Yes, hot water and ordinary soap are enough to kill the
>virus, it is easily denatured - but is also extremely virulent.
Disinfectant
>is required to kill it in cold water.
>
>The food rules are similarly confusing and complicated - there are
different
>rules for different types of food, different packaging etc. So we have
>simplified this by saying no food other than what is prepared on site -
that
>way the site caterers can comply with H&S and all of MAFF's reg's. The
other
>issue to this is not food prepared or purchased on site can be taken away.
>Adam has assured me that all food will be reasonably priced.
>
>Scheduling
>Captains meeting is at 8:45. This is to ensure all teams are aware of the
>regs and Captains are then responsible for ensuring that their team
>complies.
>We are planning for games to start at 9:15 - but do have some flexibility
to
>start late if there is a complete backlog of players wanting to get into
the
>showers. Aim to be ready to play at 9:15. We will not start games until all
>players who arrived early are ready to go, but if you arrive at 9:10 and
are
>late 'cos you have had to shower, then unlucky - all usual rules apply for
>lack of attendance.
>End of day
>Obviously 600 people diving for the showers at the end of the day will
cause
>chaos. So we have staggered the finishing times of the teams - even though
>there are enough pitches to finish all the games at the same time. Please
>stick to the schedule, and have patience at the end of the day. Similarly
>get in the shower, wash, get out, leave - people will be waiting.
>
>Kit
>Tour rules indicate penalties for lack of suitable kit - IGNORE THESE - I
am
>well aware that playing kit does not dry well when sealed in a plastic bag.
>Just make sure that you have enough light / dark shirts for each day.
>Remember that the rules on clothing apply equally to jackets / coats /
>waterproofs / etc.
>
>I am well aware that ultimate players can be sensible, intelligent, and
>responsible on the rare occasions they wish to be. Lets make the most of
the
>event.
>
>Chris
>DoC
>
>PS - don't believe Adam's stories about good weather - we've just had half
>an hour of snow in Cheltenham
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com [mailto:lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com]
>Sent: 19 April 2001 14:05
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: tour 1
>
>
>
>
>Adam
>
>I imagine that showering all the players involved in the tournament before
>starting on saturday could take some considerable amount of time depending
>on
>the facilities available.
>
>Therefore could you give us some information in advance such as each teams
>saturday morning schedule so that those teams who are up first can make
>allowances to be ready on time and those who know they are on later can
>allow
>others ahead.
>
>What will happen if teams are unable to field a line up due to players not
>being
>showered?
>
>I know they aren't your regulations but why do players need to go to these
>extreme decontamination lengths (which seem flawed in my opinion) but
>spectators
>don't. Surely both will come in contact with the same things?
>
>Your efforts are appreciated and I'm sure everyone coming along will do
>their
>best to help it all run as smoothly as possible.
>
>Regards
>
>Lars
>Slipdisc
>

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From: Harvey <Harvey@backspin.co.uk>
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hey people,

I think it's obvious that there is going to be considerable added hassles
and logistics nightmares due to the crisis.

I know the guidelines may not appear to make too much sense, but they are
there for a good reason. Exercising some common sense and basic hygine, in
addition to adhering to the guidelines wherever possible, should help the
event run as smoothly as possible.

As in all times of national crisis, we've just got to bite the bullet and
get on with it.

Harv

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Subject: Re: Tour 1 rules and scheduling
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SHOWERS ARE OPEN @ 7.30AM
YOU HAVE TO SHOWER THERE
NOWHERE ELSE WILL DO!
NO EXCEPTIONS FOR PLAYERS
Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: Ruth <ruth11@totalise.co.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Tour 1 rules and scheduling


> That doesn't answer the question about whether those of us staying in B&Bs
> across the street from the pitches will be ok to shower there both at the
> beginning and end of the day?
> Also, are you saying that all teams are starting their games at 9.15?
We'll
> have to be there by 6am at least to get 600 people through the showers if
> so...
>
> Surely staggering the games at the start would automatically lead to a
> staggering at the end, so wouldn't be too hard to organise? I realise this
> would make the day longer, but we have light now until 8pm...
>
> Ruth
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HUGHES, Chris <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
> To: 'lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com' <lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com>;
> britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:38 PM
> Subject: Tour 1 rules and scheduling
>
>
> >Lars, (and everyone else asking lots of questions)
> >
> >As you have identified these are not our rules that we are playing to -
> they
> >are the MAFF's, but we still have to go with them.
> >
> >MAFF's assumption for spectators is that they won't sit down or do
anything
> >else, only stand up. This is flawed but despite discussions they are
happy
> >with this. Similarly as players we have to go through a huge amount of
> >cleaning ourselves, but they still consider some hay with disinfectant to
> be
> >suitable for cars. Yes, hot water and ordinary soap are enough to kill
the
> >virus, it is easily denatured - but is also extremely virulent.
> Disinfectant
> >is required to kill it in cold water.
> >
> >The food rules are similarly confusing and complicated - there are
> different
> >rules for different types of food, different packaging etc. So we have
> >simplified this by saying no food other than what is prepared on site -
> that
> >way the site caterers can comply with H&S and all of MAFF's reg's. The
> other
> >issue to this is not food prepared or purchased on site can be taken
away.
> >Adam has assured me that all food will be reasonably priced.
> >
> >Scheduling
> >Captains meeting is at 8:45. This is to ensure all teams are aware of the
> >regs and Captains are then responsible for ensuring that their team
> >complies.
> >We are planning for games to start at 9:15 - but do have some flexibility
> to
> >start late if there is a complete backlog of players wanting to get into
> the
> >showers. Aim to be ready to play at 9:15. We will not start games until
all
> >players who arrived early are ready to go, but if you arrive at 9:10 and
> are
> >late 'cos you have had to shower, then unlucky - all usual rules apply
for
> >lack of attendance.
> >End of day
> >Obviously 600 people diving for the showers at the end of the day will
> cause
> >chaos. So we have staggered the finishing times of the teams - even
though
> >there are enough pitches to finish all the games at the same time. Please
> >stick to the schedule, and have patience at the end of the day. Similarly
> >get in the shower, wash, get out, leave - people will be waiting.
> >
> >Kit
> >Tour rules indicate penalties for lack of suitable kit - IGNORE THESE - I
> am
> >well aware that playing kit does not dry well when sealed in a plastic
bag.
> >Just make sure that you have enough light / dark shirts for each day.
> >Remember that the rules on clothing apply equally to jackets / coats /
> >waterproofs / etc.
> >
> >I am well aware that ultimate players can be sensible, intelligent, and
> >responsible on the rare occasions they wish to be. Lets make the most of
> the
> >event.
> >
> >Chris
> >DoC
> >
> >PS - don't believe Adam's stories about good weather - we've just had
half
> >an hour of snow in Cheltenham
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com [mailto:lpatel@mail.hadenmac.com]
> >Sent: 19 April 2001 14:05
> >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> >Subject: tour 1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >I imagine that showering all the players involved in the tournament
before
> >starting on saturday could take some considerable amount of time
depending
> >on
> >the facilities available.
> >
> >Therefore could you give us some information in advance such as each
teams
> >saturday morning schedule so that those teams who are up first can make
> >allowances to be ready on time and those who know they are on later can
> >allow
> >others ahead.
> >
> >What will happen if teams are unable to field a line up due to players
not
> >being
> >showered?
> >
> >I know they aren't your regulations but why do players need to go to
these
> >extreme decontamination lengths (which seem flawed in my opinion) but
> >spectators
> >don't. Surely both will come in contact with the same things?
> >
> >Your efforts are appreciated and I'm sure everyone coming along will do
> >their
> >best to help it all run as smoothly as possible.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Lars
> >Slipdisc
> >
>

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>Yes, hot water and ordinary soap are enough to kill the
>virus, it is easily denatured

Which means the showers will have to be hot all day?! Woo-hoo! I like the 
sound of these regulations :-)

Adam, Matt et al, thanks for all your work.

Paul

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Due to circumstances outside of our control, it looks at though Albatross
will be a few short for Sat. Could anyone stomach playing for us at Tour 1?

Jo
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Don't pick up for albatross, pick up for mohawk mwnci magic

we're much more fun

go on

nicole
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Everyone,

Are there are any players out there who, like me, live in or around
Colchester and would like to get together for practice and maybe see if we
can't get a team together?  There is a serious lack of teams around the
Colchester area, I heard rumours of a team in Ipswich but I had no reply to
a mail I sent them a few weeks back.

So if you are interested, mail me and we can try and sort something out.  I
was one of the guys who started the Brunel Uni Team and have been playing
(and filming) recently for Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers.  You might
remember us from such titles as "The Nottingham Indoor Tourney" and "The
National Indoor Tournament, Cheltenham".  Videos available at
www.blockstack.co.uk incidentally, sorry enough of the plugs already ;)

So if you are close to Colchester and want to play near home, mail me and we
can get something going.  There are heaps of outdoor places where we could
play and a couple of candidates for indoor practice as well (Essex Uni being
the best bet).

Let me know if you think it's a go-er

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Mat Lawrence
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>Remember that the rules on clothing apply equally to jackets / coats /
>waterproofs / etc.

that'll include chairs as well, then  :(

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We are now up to 34 teams,
The most recent cheques coming from

Brunel
Disc Doctors
Flat Ball Project
UWE

If you still want to enter you need to hurry.
If people give me cheques at Tour 1 I will have to prioritise any that =
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Cheers everyone,
See you in the queue for showers in Bristol,
Tom
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Hi everyone,
Just a quick reminder for those interested in the C.U.B.E.
held on Aberdeens great beaches...
5th - 6th May,  with bbq's and sun tanning galore!

7 aside,  everyone is welcome.

So far,
FAR FLUNG,
SHOOTING STARS,
and STIRLING,
plus ofcourse
Positive Mojo x 2
have shown interest.

We aim to get about 8 teams together for a weekend of the best Scottish 
Beach Ultimate EVER!

FRIDAY night, at the local 'its a scream' pub.
SATURDAY night, in the Student Union 'liquid loft' - large dance area, large 
bar area, comfortable seats and ofcourse CHEAP DRINKS!

Please get back to me soon if you are interested in taking a team along.  
CAN those who initially said they were interested please contact me again 
with confirmation of numbers and how many teams.

The £25 for the weekend is made payable to...
                  A.U. Ultimate Frisbee Club

Our address is...

David Gardner,
Dom 2, Dunbar Halls,
Don St, Old Aberdeen,
AB24 1AU

Thank you all.
Dave
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Hi everyone...
Just  a small change in plans for the event.

We are still holding the BEACH TOURNAMENT on the 5th and 6th MAY,  but due 
to the proximity of examinations,  we feel that it is more likely that clubs 
will be able to send one or two teams for 5 aside rather than 7 aside.
Besides the fact that realistically, 7 aside is a nightmare on sand!

SO the C.U.B.E. is officially a 5aside tournament now!

With that change in mind...

Team entry is only £20  for the whole weekend.

Hope to hear from you all soon.
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I've moved to Reading and there doesn't seem to be any ultimate around
here!  need to sort this out!

At tour 1 this weekend I heard there was a practice set up last summer.  is
that still happening and are people still interested?

cheers

Kevin Noble
Brunel University

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Unfortunately, I left a navy blue, water-resistant pullover in the
shower/changing room at Clifford College sunday afternoon.  If anyone may
have retrieved it, please give me a call at one of numbers below and leave
your contact info. 

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Can Either Christian or Paolo contact me - I have some photo's of the Catch
Rimini trip that feature the Nistri brothers and lady friend's (Oh - and Eve
as well :-) that you may want back

Chris


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All,

I would like to thank Adam and Matt for a good tournament under difficult
conditions over the weekend.
I would also like to thank all the players that put up with the awkward
restrictions and added complications due to the MAFF regulations, irrelevant
of how pointless the shower seemed at the end of play on Sunday.

Congratulations to Clapham - good to see a new team doing so well for itself
early in it's fledgling life - and in response to the hecklers - there are
lots of Druids with trophies, it's just they are either very old or runners
up to Hombres (youngsters - ask an ultimate player over 30 for an
explanation)

Chris
DoC


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    Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education
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Did anyone inadvertently pick up some addidas football boots at the weekend
from the door outside the male showers on Sunday?  (Black with blue bits
and blade style studs, size 11ish).   

If so can I have them back please!

Cheers, 

Dave.
Chevron.  

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Hi all,

After a tournament like Tour I in Bristol this last weekend, it is normal to send messages saying how well things worked and I´m sure others will do that much better than me.

But there is another side to it, and I just wanted to mention the things that could have been better. Before Tour I, I remember reading something about a cheap food option. In the future it may be better to refer to it like fast food, so nobody gets disappointed. I didn´t find it especially cheap, especially since we were told not to bring any food or drinks into the venue (I admit I didn´t understand the reason for that, with or without foot and mouth).

And I also remember reading loads of comments on hot water. It almost seemed like we would be going into a sauna after the games. Well, I don´t know about the female showers, but the male showers were not hot at all. No wonder somebody must have had a warm shower some time during the weekend but we "all" were supposed to have hot showers, not just some lucky ones.

I guess the organizers will not be so kind as to give part of our money back and I´m sure some will say they are not the ones to blame. Well, who is it, then? In the future maybe the venues can be contracted on the basis that if not enough hot water is provided then we get some of our money back? I don´t know, but maybe we all can get some ideas going. And don´t get me wrong, a tenner up or down will not make much of a difference, but a service who is up to what is expected definitely would.

Finally, sorry for the lengthy e-mail, but I´m sure I´m not the only one who noticed this.

Kind regards,

Juan Carlos

Flyght Club


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Juan,

Okay fair points - lets try and deal with them reasonably.

1. Food - the food wasn't dirt cheap - but it wasn't outrageous. However the MAFF rules were simple - adhere or no event. I know some people were arrogant, and selfish enough to ignore all our requests to stick to them (both on the food front and showering). I assume that these people know enough about the virus and its vector patterns to gamble other peoples livelihoods for the sake of a couple of quid or a couple of minutes in the shower. I appreciate the efforts that most people put in.

2. Showers - The hot showers all round concept was toast the moment we started asking over 400 people to have showers in about 1 hour. However people did have hot showers - some people had showers so hot you couldn't stand under them (I was not one of those people - but I did have 1 hot shower, 1 warm shower, 1 bearable shower, and 1 refrigerated shower).
Even without the MAFF issue nowhere will cope with that number of people showering to provide everyone with hot toasty showers - warm is as best as you can expect. Why? Consider the numbers the venue expects to cope with. The site had 8 rugby / football pitches, maybe 10 max. Since they will never fill all the rugby and football pitches at one time they are designed to cope with half the number of showers. Ultimate tournaments get one hell of a lot of people in a very small area, only 14 on pitch but another 10 on the sideline, and 3 ultimate pitches to 2 football pitches, and all of a sudden we have between 2 to 3 times the capacity that they never expect to fill.

So lets tighten up the contractual side of things, get venues to guarantee hot showers - now you are into lawyers and other expensive stuff - the cost of events will escalate at an even sillier rate, for an opportunity to get 20 pounds per team back. Besides, as someone who has organsied more events than probably anyone else in the country - I wouldn't touch an event that got involved in serious contractual agreements beyond hire agreement - far too complicated, and far too much hassle. These are the exact reasons (contractual grief) as to why Nolan has been unable to organise the Open last year and this year.

So how else to get warm showers - smaller events. Reduce the number of people going through the shower, and you won't drain the tank. Or bigger venues - which are even fewer than the venues we have at the moment, and even more expensive. Or you stagger the timing. Rotterdam, like Southampton, used to have warm showers the whole time when the weather was good, because everyone is camping and eating on site. So you would have a beer or two. Then see if the showers were hot and empty. If not go back to the bar and wait, and despite playing your last game at 6 you would get to the shower (with a beer) at 9 in the evening - no rush. But if the weather was cold and wet - the showers would be swamped in the rush, and cold. Likewise if you are going somewhere at the end of the day, and not camping on site - but then you shower elsewhere.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't expect to have a hot (or at least warm) shower, but you just have to look at how rarely you get one at a major ultimate event to determine that there is something fundamentally wrong with our events that will need a drastic change to solve.

I would be interested to here peoples (sensible) suggestions as to how this could be done. But I would also like to reserve judgement until I see future events this year to see just how the complications at T1 added to the problems.

Chris
DoC

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Hi all,

After a tournament like Tour I in Bristol this last weekend, it is normal to send messages saying how well things worked and I´m sure others will do that much better than me.

But there is another side to it, and I just wanted to mention the things that could have been better. Before Tour I, I remember reading something about a cheap food option. In the future it may be better to refer to it like fast food, so nobody gets disappointed. I didn´t find it especially cheap, especially since we were told not to bring any food or drinks into the venue (I admit I didn´t understand the reason for that, with or without foot and mouth).

And I also remember reading loads of comments on hot water. It almost seemed like we would be going into a sauna after the games. Well, I don´t know about the female showers, but the male showers were not hot at all. No wonder somebody must have had a warm shower some time during the weekend but we "all" were supposed to have hot showers, not just some lucky ones.

I guess the organizers will not be so kind as to give part of our money back and I´m sure some will say they are not the ones to blame. Well, who is it, then? In the future maybe the venues can be contracted on the basis that if not enough hot water is provided then we get some of our money back? I don´t know, but maybe we all can get some ideas going. And don´t get me wrong, a tenner up or down will not make much of a difference, but a service who is up to what is expected definitely would.

Finally, sorry for the lengthy e-mail, but I´m sure I´m not the only one who noticed this.

Kind regards,

Juan Carlos

Flyght Club



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I came accross this site and a video of an awesome frisbee catching 
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Check it out!

Trevor

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The due date for cheques for Tour 2 banbury was yesterday.

Not including todays post. The following cheques have been received:

1	Warwick Bears
2	Slipdisc
3	Chevron action flash
4	Blue arse flies open
5	Blue arse flies Mixed
6	Fluid Druids
7	Fusion 1
8	Fusion 2
9	Trigger Happy
10	Strange Blue
11	Smash and Grab
12	Leicester Hustlers
13	Clapham Ultimate 1
14	Clapham Ultimate 2
15	Nightfever
16	Mild Mannered Janitors
17	Whey
18	Leeds Jedi
19	GB Juniors
20	Red

we have space for 28

Cheques from
Flyght Club
Mynci Mohawk Magic
Bliss
Poco Loco are expected in post soon

All of the above teams should ensure that BUF tax has been sent to Dora Kemp
@ 12a Amwell Rd, Cambridge, CB4 2UH

BUF tax has been paid (as of 18/4/01) by the following but no entry yet made
from:

LeedsLeedsLeeds
Hammerage
Headrush
Point Blank
Team Shark

Looks like someone is going to be disappointed


Stig

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Hello,
did anyone pick up my black 'AC/DC' jacket and blue
Oakley cap? If so could you get it to a Clapham
practice or hold onto it 'til Tour 2, thank you,
Joe

P.S. Larry, drop me a line next time you're coming to
London so we can meet up for a couple of beers,
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I'm up for Reading area practices.
I live in Fleet near Farnborough and can give people a lift on the way
if necessary.
Please copy me on any replies as I'm not on BD.

VITO

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Chris,

How dare you try to steal the thunder from Stan.
We were the original and most prolific runners up ever known in UK Ultimate.

Druids never were very good at beating us at anything!

Max
ex-Stan, current-Fever, new-Dad!

>lots of Druids with trophies, it's just they are either very old or runners
>up to Hombres (youngsters - ask an ultimate player over 30 for an
>explanation)
>
>Chris
>DoC

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as am i, i live in Farnham, and a practice where i dont have to travel into
london is always welcome to me.  any others out there?

Duncan

At 10:30 24/04/01 +0100, Adriano Vitali wrote:
>I'm up for Reading area practices.
>I live in Fleet near Farnborough and can give people a lift on the way
>if necessary.
>Please copy me on any replies as I'm not on BD.
>
>VITO
>
>--
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>
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could someone from "Leeds Leeds Leeds" please get in touch with me asap ref a 
practice i believe you guys currently have on Tues evenings in...Leeds (doooh!)

where, when etc?

Assuming it is a relatively "open" session i should like to join you for a bash 
on Tues nights.

ttfn John Purdie
07860 425 698

ps: if anyone knows a phone number of someone who might know please could you 
get back to me directly


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Hi all,

quick query - are university staff eligible 
to play on student teams this weekend.

Cheers,
Stuart (UWE).

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Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk
"University of the West of England"

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Good point Max - but didn't Stan always loose the finals on purpose? I'm sure 
Sammy had developed his theory: "Why Second is First" by that time.

Jack
Chevron

ex Superfly (who did the same as Stan, but at the other end of the tournament 
- 2nd last)
ex Samurai (who used to win everything, until I started playing for them)





>===== Original Message From Max Keogh <max@student-reservations.co.uk> =====
>Chris,
>
>How dare you try to steal the thunder from Stan.
>We were the original and most prolific runners up ever known in UK Ultimate.
>
>Druids never were very good at beating us at anything!
>
>Max
>ex-Stan, current-Fever, new-Dad!
>
>>lots of Druids with trophies, it's just they are either very old or runners
>>up to Hombres (youngsters - ask an ultimate player over 30 for an
>>explanation)
>>
>>Chris
>>DoC

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This has nothing to do with the fact that I play for Headrush who
haven't paid their entry fee yet but I was wondering if there were any
rules about teams entering a second team in the tour. I seem to recall
something being mentioned on Britdisc about it last year. Was anything
decided?

Not bitter, just curious

VITO



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If you lost an item of clothing over the weekend at
Tour 1 then I am the person that is most likely to
have it.
I will respond as quickly as possible to your
enquiries.

Cheers

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Matt, if you come across a royal/navy blue waterproof
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Thanks for all the replies from my last e-mail,

For all of you who live this side of London we now have a Reading practice
(again).

Our first session is this Thursday from about 6-6:30.  Any changes will be
posted on the e-group and not britdisc, so join up.

to join e-mail: reading-frisbee-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Hope to see plenty of you there

Kevin Noble
Brunel Uni/Albatross/Brasil

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Directions as per e-group note:

Cintra Park
Cintra Avenue
off Christchurch Road (A327)

from M4, Junc 11
    Up the A33 towards town
    After Madjeski and also Greyhound stadium turn right at roundabout
    towards Craddocks lane industrial estate.
    Over a couple of mini roundabouts and past Safeways on the right
    Left at lights, up Basingstoke Road to roundabout
    Turn right, this is now Christchurch Road and Cintra Avenue is 3rd
    right. Park is on left and visible at end of road.

And a URL to a map
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Vito,

As far as I'm aware, the decision was that Tour entry this year was strictly
first-come-first-served to prevent top teams from procrastinating and
entering at the last minute (that's not a dig at your current situation, by
the way). If a club gets organisied enough to get two teams entered in time,
then the second team has as much priority as the first team.

Scuttler,
Fusion 2.
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> Message: 6
>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:05:05 +0100
>    From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com>
> Subject: 1st & 2nd teams
> 
> This has nothing to do with the fact that I play for Headrush who
> haven't paid their entry fee yet but I was wondering if there were any
> rules about teams entering a second team in the tour. I seem to recall
> something being mentioned on Britdisc about it last year. Was anything
> decided?
> 
> Not bitter, just curious
> 
> VITO

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>any one know the results of tour 1?

I remember...

SOTG: Jedi

MVP Final: 

1. Clapham
2. Chevron Action Flash
3. Clapham
4. Fusion
5. LeedsLeedsLeeds
6. TeamShark
7. Fluid Druids
8. Red

stuff about games:

semi 1v4 Clapham v Clapham
semi 2v3 Chevron Action Flash v Fusion

Fusion beat Fluid Druids (sudden death) in the 3v6
QuarterFinal/Crossover

TeamShark beat Fluid Druids (by quite a margin) in the 6v7 knockout game

Leeds(etc) beat TeamShark in 5v6, tho' the result was the other way
around when they met earlier in the tournament.

The showers were already cold at 8:30am Saturday; cold again at 6:00pm
Saturday; scalding at 8:00am Sunday; cold again at 5:00pm Sunday.

The ground was quite hard on Saturday, but got quite slippery when it
rained on Sunday!


Wayne Retter
Fluid Druids

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by my understanding (remember, I no longer have any official role in
this, so could be out of touch and wrong!)

if you really mean:
My team haven't entered, so can I play for someone else at T2 ?

the answer is:
Yes
if you're on the roster of your regular team, and they don't enter:
you can guest for another rostered team (remember they're only allowed
ONE guest) for the w/e
or you can play with an unrostered team for the w/e

if you were previously a guest, or part of an unrostered team,
you can play for another unrostered team,
        or guest for another rostered team (remember they're only
allowed ONE guest) for the w/e,
        or even join the roster of a rostered team (if you meet the
eligibility requirements) - if you do this you have to play for them,
rather than another team, if they enter events.


A big rostered club can enter 2 teams. Whether they are allowed to move
people between those 2 teams depends on their Geo status.

However, a big rostered club can't spawn off some players into a second
(unrostered) team, supplemented by other players from teams that haven't
entered.


Hope this helps?

Wayne

Wed, 25 Apr 2001, by Richard Clegg <mailto:richard.clegg@company-
net.com>;
 Subject: [britdisc-daily] Digest Number 290
>Vito,
>
>As far as I'm aware, the decision was that Tour entry this year was strictly
>first-come-first-served to prevent top teams from procrastinating and
>entering at the last minute (that's not a dig at your current situation, by
>the way). If a club gets organisied enough to get two teams entered in time,
>then the second team has as much priority as the first team.
>
>Scuttler,
>Fusion 2.
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> Message: 6
>>    Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:05:05 +0100
>>    From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com>
>> Subject: 1st & 2nd teams
>> 
>> This has nothing to do with the fact that I play for Headrush who
>> haven't paid their entry fee yet but I was wondering if there were any
>> rules about teams entering a second team in the tour. I seem to recall
>> something being mentioned on Britdisc about it last year. Was anything
>> decided?
>> 
>> Not bitter, just curious
>> 
>> VITO

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Can anyone tell me what practices are happening in London this summer that
lapsed or new players can go along to, either mid week or weekend?

As a team contact I get frequent mails from interested new players and want
to direct them to somewhere other than the highly demanding, international
standard Whey! flubberguts sessions or the rather average standard
Bullfrogs practices.

Any London teams out there welcoming new players?

Thanks

Pete
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You are more than welcome to send players to Angels practices.  We are a co-ed team of mixed ability.  We practice indoors on Thursday evenings and outdoors on Sunday afternoons.  Our Sunday practices are currently taking place in Hyde Park at 2.00pm.  I would suggest that anyone who is interested in coming along should either email me or Simon Barry (sibarry@hotmail.com)

Deirdre

http://www.angels-ultimate.co.uk/



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter.Cotton@thameswater.co.uk
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Sent: 26 April 2001 09:28
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Practices in London for less experienced players


Can anyone tell me what practices are happening in London this summer that
lapsed or new players can go along to, either mid week or weekend?

As a team contact I get frequent mails from interested new players and want
to direct them to somewhere other than the highly demanding, international
standard Whey! flubberguts sessions or the rather average standard
Bullfrogs practices.

Any London teams out there welcoming new players?

Thanks

Pete
Whey!




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There is an open Clapham Ultimate practice on Clapham Common on Thursday
nights. By Eagle Pond (hence the frogs...) 300 yards north of Clapham South
Tube station. Starting as soon after 6.30pm as possible.

At the moment all *experienced* players are welcome. This may change in a
few weeks or we may split into two games depending on numbers. No beginners
please.  

The only rule: to play with us you have to run drills and sprints with us!

Regards
Roger




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Hi,
I just arrived from South Africa, and was wondering where I should go 
to join a pickup game and at what time? I need some major fitness, 
but my throws are ok (and i'm more than willing to risk my limbs to 
make a good layout D).
I'm sure its posted somewhere on some website, but unfortunately i'm 
on limited time on this computer.


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Albatross run an open practice on Tuesdays in Hyde Park. For details check
out -

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/albatrossultimate
or
http:/www.albatross.org.uk


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 26 April 2001 09:28
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Practices in London for less experienced players


Can anyone tell me what practices are happening in London this summer that
lapsed or new players can go along to, either mid week or weekend?

As a team contact I get frequent mails from interested new players and want
to direct them to somewhere other than the highly demanding, international
standard Whey! flubberguts sessions or the rather average standard
Bullfrogs practices.

Any London teams out there welcoming new players?

Thanks

Pete
Whey!




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Calling all Oxfordshire players:

I have just set up a new Ultimate Club at Kingston Bagpuize, 8 miles =
west of Oxford. Our first meeting is on 17th May 2001 at 7pm at Kingston =
Bagpuize 'Large Rec' park, off Faringdon Road.

Most or all of the local members will be Ultimate Virgins and so it will =
really be an introduction to the game for them. Any even slightly =
experienced players who can spare the time would be very welcome, to =
show them how it is done.

Jonathan Hope (Ox Uni Coach and Fluid Druid) will be guiding us through =
and would appreciate a few others to give it structure.

Richard Anstis

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have just set up a new Ultimate Club =
at Kingston=20
Bagpuize, 8 miles west of Oxford. Our first meeting is on 17th May 2001 =
at 7pm=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most or all&nbsp;of the local members =
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for them.=20
Any&nbsp;even slightly experienced players who can spare the time would =
be very=20
welcome, to show them how it is done.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jonathan Hope (Ox Uni Coach and Fluid =
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From: "Nancy Stebbing" <nancy.stebbing@tesco.net>
To: "britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: tour 2 accommodation
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:18:42 +0100
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OK- here's the deal:

Any and all Red players are welcome to crash at our house friday and =
satruday nights.  We live about 20 minutes from the pitches, just so you =
know.

On Saturday, anyone who is interested can come over for a sort-of =
barbecue (that's whether you're sleeping here or not).  Current menu: =
'American' kebabs (marinated meat and veg grilled out, but not a =
take-away thingy, you'll have to trust me), some salad type things, a =
couple of cheesecakes if I can get around to it.  Food is free, but you =
have to supply whatever it is you want to drink that night.  All =
players, significant others, children, and the family Stig are welcome.  =
But no one will hurt my feelings if you want to do other stuff.  FYI- a =
loud and youngish pub is about 20 yards out my front door.  It's a =
downhill trip on the way home, so you can just roll if you get =
completely legless.  As per Duncan's request, I'll try to get some =
blueberry muffins done for Sunday am. =20

Also- if the showers at the ptiches are cold, we've got two and we'll =
keep the water heater running until everyone is relatively clean.

Please note:  THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL.  Please do whatever you want- =
party, camp, stay with other people, go home.  It's just another option.

I need a headcount of people wanting food from us by May 8 (the Monday =
before the tour).

Hope this clears things up-

nancy


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any and all Red players are welcome to =
crash at our=20
house friday and satruday nights.&nbsp; We live about 20 minutes from =
the=20
pitches, just so you know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On Saturday, anyone who is interested =
can come over=20
for a sort-of barbecue (that's whether you're sleeping here or =
not).&nbsp;=20
Current menu: 'American' kebabs (marinated meat and veg grilled out, but =
not a=20
take-away thingy, you'll have to trust me), some salad type things, a =
couple of=20
cheesecakes if I can get around to it.&nbsp; Food is free, but you have =
to=20
supply whatever it is you want to drink that night.&nbsp; All players,=20
significant others, children, and the family Stig are welcome.&nbsp; But =
no one=20
will hurt my feelings if you want to do other stuff.&nbsp; FYI- a loud =
and=20
youngish pub is about 20 yards out my front door.&nbsp; It's a downhill =
trip on=20
the way home, so you can just roll if you get completely legless.&nbsp; =
As per=20
Duncan's request, I'll try to get some blueberry muffins done for Sunday =

am.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also- if the showers at the ptiches are =
cold, we've=20
got two and we'll keep the water heater running until everyone is =
relatively=20
clean.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please note:&nbsp; THIS IS NOT A BIG =
DEAL.&nbsp;=20
Please do whatever you want- party, camp, stay with other people, go =
home.&nbsp;=20
It's just another option.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I need a headcount of people wanting =
food from us=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope this clears things =
up-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Cheers Nancy

We're looking forward to those hot showers and blueberry muffins. Very 
generous of you.

Are we allowed to smoke in your house?

Jack
CAF


>===== Original Message From "Nancy Stebbing" <nancy.stebbing@tesco.net> =====
>OK- here's the deal:
>
>Any and all Red players are welcome to crash at our house friday and satruday 
nights.  We live about 20 minutes from the pitches, just so you know.
>
>On Saturday, anyone who is interested can come over for a sort-of barbecue 
(that's whether you're sleeping here or not).  Current menu: 'American' kebabs 
(marinated meat and veg grilled out, but not a take-away thingy, you'll have 
to trust me), some salad type things, a couple of cheesecakes if I can get 
around to it.  Food is free, but you have to supply whatever it is you want to 
drink that night.  All players, significant others, children, and the family 
Stig are welcome.  But no one will hurt my feelings if you want to do other 
stuff.  FYI- a loud and youngish pub is about 20 yards out my front door.  
It's a downhill trip on the way home, so you can just roll if you get 
completely legless.  As per Duncan's request, I'll try to get some blueberry 
muffins done for Sunday am.
>
>Also- if the showers at the ptiches are cold, we've got two and we'll keep 
the water heater running until everyone is relatively clean.
>
>Please note:  THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL.  Please do whatever you want- party, 
camp, stay with other people, go home.  It's just another option.
>
>I need a headcount of people wanting food from us by May 8 (the Monday before 
the tour).
>
>Hope this clears things up-
>
>nancy

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As much as I would LOVE to feed and house you all, I can't.

I've apologise for the mix-up.  Call me what you will...

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I just burst out laughing and got stared at by the whole office.

:-)

I'm still laughing now at the thought of the whole Ultimate world partying
chez Stebbings. No more please Jack ;-).

Nancy did you mean to invite us all or are you just in league with the
devil? Sorry, Red I mean of course. 

l8rs all,
Roger


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Goolden [mailto:jgoolden@totalise.co.uk]
Sent: 26 April 2001 15:17
To: Nancy Stebbing; britdisc
Subject: RE: tour 2 accommodation


Cheers Nancy

We're looking forward to those hot showers and blueberry muffins. Very 
generous of you.

Are we allowed to smoke in your house?

Jack
CAF


>===== Original Message From "Nancy Stebbing" <nancy.stebbing@tesco.net>
=====
>OK- here's the deal:
>
>Any and all Red players are welcome to crash at our house friday and
satruday 
nights.  We live about 20 minutes from the pitches, just so you know.
>
>On Saturday, anyone who is interested can come over for a sort-of barbecue 
(that's whether you're sleeping here or not).  Current menu: 'American'
kebabs 
(marinated meat and veg grilled out, but not a take-away thingy, you'll have

to trust me), some salad type things, a couple of cheesecakes if I can get 
around to it.  Food is free, but you have to supply whatever it is you want
to 
drink that night.  All players, significant others, children, and the family

Stig are welcome.  But no one will hurt my feelings if you want to do other 
stuff.  FYI- a loud and youngish pub is about 20 yards out my front door.  
It's a downhill trip on the way home, so you can just roll if you get 
completely legless.  As per Duncan's request, I'll try to get some blueberry

muffins done for Sunday am.
>
>Also- if the showers at the ptiches are cold, we've got two and we'll keep 
the water heater running until everyone is relatively clean.
>
>Please note:  THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL.  Please do whatever you want- party, 
camp, stay with other people, go home.  It's just another option.
>
>I need a headcount of people wanting food from us by May 8 (the Monday
before 
the tour).
>
>Hope this clears things up-
>
>nancy

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Apologies to everyone waiting for the results of Tour
1. I am waiting for Adam to sort it out as he has all
of the details, he has been rather ill over the past
few days so I've not been bothering him to much about
it. I should have it by the weekend. 

Any lost property will be thrown away or taken to the
charity shop if it is not claimed by Tour 2.

Thanks for your patients

Matt

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If you are waiting for a refund from Tour 1 It should
be with you within the next week or so.

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BD & BAF,

Following the cancellation of the Evesham Charity tournament (May 5th/6th)
the Bank Holiday weekend is looking a little empty (for those not prepared
to travel up to the C.U.B.E Beach tournament in Aberdeen anyway)

I've provisionally booked a couple of pitches at King Edwards Place (the
Swindon U8 Tour venue from last year) and was wondering if a few "local"
teams (probably 4 or 6 teams) might want to get together for a 1-day
mini-tournament on SUNDAY 6th MAY (N.B. this will be a "tournament" in the
very loosest sense of the word)

Cost will be minimal (somewhere in the region of £25 per team) and will be
set at a level to cover the cost of pitch hire

Let me know if you want to play ...

Balti
BAF 34

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Hi all

Sorry for the delay - my 1st access to a computer!

Before I list the results both Matt and I would like to thank Chris =
Hughes for giving up most of Thursday & Friday to deal with the various =
schedule changes - its an unpaid task which never receives the =
recognition it deserves.

 Anyway here's the results in reverse order:

28    Bears
27    MMJ
26    Mohawks Mwnci Magic
25    Albatross
24    UWE
23    Slipdisc
22    Sublime
21    Jedi Children - Spoon Winners
20    GB Juniors
19    Flyght Club
18    Fusion 2
17    BAF Mixed
16    Night Fever
15    Strange Blue
14    Un Poco Loco
13    Hamerage - Plate Winners
12    Headrush
11    BAF Open
10    Whey
9    Smash & Grab
8    Red
7     Fluid Druids
6    TeamShark
5    Leeds etc
4    Fusion 1
3    Clapham 2
2    Chevron AF
1    Clapham1

Spirit of the Game winners - Jedi Children

MVP - Si Weeks Chevron

Thanks to everyone for their patience and adherance to those odd MAFF =
regulations and for putting up with the showers. The venue were very =
happy with "the nice" Ultimate community and are keen to do it again! =
but without Foot & Mouth. hope you all had a good time - see you at Tour =
2.

Fatboy
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computer!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Before I list the results&nbsp;both =
Matt and I=20
would like to thank Chris Hughes for giving up most of Thursday &amp; =
Friday to=20
deal with the various schedule changes -&nbsp;its an unpaid task=20
which&nbsp;never receives the recognition it deserves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;Anyway here's the results in =
reverse=20
order:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>28&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>27&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MMJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>26&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mohawks Mwnci=20
Magic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Albatross</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>24&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; UWE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Slipdisc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>22&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Sublime</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>21&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jedi Children - =
Spoon=20
Winners</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; GB =
Juniors</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>19&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght =
Club</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fusion =
2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF =
Mixed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Night =
Fever</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Strange =
Blue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Un Poco =
Loco</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hamerage - Plate=20
Winners</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Headrush</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF =
Open</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Whey</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Smash &amp; =
Grab</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Red</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fluid =
Druids</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
TeamShark</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Leeds =
etc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fusion =
1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Clapham =
2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Chevron =
AF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Clapham1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Spirit of the Game winners - Jedi=20
Children</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MVP - Si Weeks Chevron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks to everyone for their patience =
and adherance=20
to those odd MAFF regulations and for putting up with the showers. The =
venue=20
were very happy with "the nice" Ultimate community and are keen to do it =
again!=20
but without Foot &amp; Mouth. hope you all had a good time - see you at =
Tour=20
2.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fatboy<BR>--<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.virgin.net/">http://www.virgin.net/</A></FONT></DIV></=
BODY></HTML>

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BD,

Unfortunately Skunks failed to get our cheque in before the 
deadline so I've got no team to play for! If anyone wants 
an extra player I'll love to play at Banbury. The Saturday 
is my 22nd so I'll be having a beer or two wherever, I'd 
prefer it to be whilst playing!

Cheers,

Angie (Skunks)

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I am a Warwick Bears 2nd's player from Nottingham wondering if there are
any practice sessions I may be able to join over the summer hols.
Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Cheers,
Dave Oxendale (Oscar)
Bears

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As is usual in the summer, we will be practising in
Wandle Park, Croydon, Wednesday nights 6pm onwards
starting this week.

In the classic Lurkers tradition, all are welcome.

email me for any more details u might need

Ed - Lurkers

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BD & BAF,

Anybody else interested in this mini-tournament ?

Just need one more team to make it worthwhile ...

Even if your whole team can't make it but you personally fancy a bit of a
warm-up before T2 let me know and we'll see if we have enough players to
make up a "pick-up team"

Balti
BAF 34
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BD & BAF,

Following the cancellation of the Evesham Charity tournament (May 5th/6th)
the Bank Holiday weekend is looking a little empty (for those not prepared
to travel up to the C.U.B.E Beach tournament in Aberdeen anyway)

I've provisionally booked a couple of pitches at King Edwards Place (the
Swindon U8 Tour venue from last year) and was wondering if a few "local"
teams (probably 4 or 6 teams) might want to get together for a 1-day
mini-tournament on SUNDAY 6th MAY (N.B. this will be a "tournament" in the
very loosest sense of the word)

Cost will be minimal (somewhere in the region of £25 per team) and will be
set at a level to cover the cost of pitch hire

Let me know if you want to play ...

Balti
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Hello Britdiscers

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Hi everyone,

Thanks to everyone who came and played in York at the weekend. We all enjoyed and hopefully you all did too.

The results are as follows:

32 Disciples
31 RSB 2
30 Mohawks 2
29 Phat Eds 2
28 Ow! 2
27 Jedi 2
26 Hulltimate
25 Flatball Project 2 (winners of the "mini-shield"
24 Y2K
23 Picnic
22 Mythago 2
21 Boogie Knights
20 UWE (winners of the "we left our entire kit behind" award!
19 Bears 2
18 Jesters
17 Mynci See (winners of the shield)
16 Disc Doctors/ Stop Throwing Discs
15 Northern Lights (SOTG winners)
14 YBK 1
13 Fish
12 Bears 1
11 Strange Blue
10 Sublime
9 Purple Haze (Plate winners)
8 Flatball Project 1
7 Far Flung
6 Mythago
5 Jedi 1
4 Mohawks 1
3 Ow! 1
2 Phat Eds 1
1 Ro Sham Bo 1
MVP Psycho Paul from RSB

Congratulations RSB. It was a great final. They went into the cap 8-6 down, and pulled of a fantastic come back.

Sharking Award: The Grinch from Fish

Lost property: We will put out an email about this soon. There were alot of boots that disappeared over the weeknd, and 1 rucksack (black and green - made by Gregory). If anyone has inadvertently picked them up please let us know and we will track down the rightful owners.

Thanks again everyone, and I'll hopefully see you at Tour 2,
Tom
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The Lurkers will be running their Tournament again this year, it will 
be held at the venue in Cobham in Surrey on the 14-15 July, the fee 
will be announced shortly, but is likely to be £100'ish, depending on 
BUF taxes. 

I would be very interested in hearing from those interested in playing 
to get an idea of numbers, that way I can avoid wasting money, and 
having too many pitches.

Thanks

Cliff

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To: "Will Biddle" <willbiddle@talk21.com>,
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Just a reminder that Uriel are holding a hat tourniment on the 30th of June
and 1st of July. Everyone is welcome and the entry fee will be only £5.

Rob Daniels
Exeter University
Uriel-Tournament Organiser
EUSAC-Boat Officer
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Sorry to change things but due to the womens tour events happening this summer 
it has been decided to host the nationals after the summer holidays, in 
September/October. 

I hope this is okay with everyone, a date will be published nearer the time.

Thank you to everyone who got back to me with venues, we may still need to you 
I will get in contact nearer the tournament.

Sally

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All,

Clapham Ultimate will be training regularly on Clapham and Wandsworth
Commons this year (as ever.....).  We will play on Tuesday and Thursday
evenings, and Sunday afternoons.  The sessions on Tuesday's and Sunday's are
for team members only (questions or exceptions contact me), Thursday's will
be open and we will strive to organize two games (intermediate and
advanced). 

Aram

Also, there is the London League {http://www.londonultimate.org/}

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<html><DIV>Dear All,</DIV>
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<DIV>In recent weeks there has been some speculation that we may have to cancel the Kilkenny Ultimate Tournament due to the foot and mouth crisis. I've been in touch with the Irish Departmant of Agriculture and the venue and they are both happy for the tournament to proceed. So to paraphrase Mark Twain, reports of the tournaments death have been greatly exaggerated.</DIV>
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<DIV>June 16th and 17th will see the first ultimate tournament in Kilkenny. If you didn't go to Rimini or aren't going to Brugges but still fancy a bit of overseas ultimate then sign yourselves or your team up. At the moment we have players and teams signed up from Ireland, UK, France, Germany, USA and South Africa.</DIV>
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<DIV>So come to Kilkenny for Ultimate, Booze and one hell of a laugh. You know you want to.</DIV>
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The e-mail I sent about the Exeter Hat that said £5 entry was ment to say £5
per person. sorry if anyone was expecting to bring a whole team for a fiver.

Rob Daniels
Exeter University
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Tel-07733152313

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To all those competing at EUCC2001 in Prague.


Apparently when you enter Czech Republic, your passport must be valid for at
least 6 months.

Stig

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Does anyone have an information about Tour 2 and especially which teams are
playing?

Jo Turner
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Hi Dave/Oscar,

Don't know if anyone else has been in touch with you.
I'm not on Britdisc and have read this from the archive (therefore I don't
know what your email address is) so apologies to everyone else.

We practice on Sundays either at Forest Fields or the Meadows from around 1
pm. There's also an evening practice normally at Forest Fields but this
isn't really established yet as we've only just come outdoors in the
evenings.

The best thing is if you could give me a call on 0115 8414194 (you can also
speak to Dani or Dene on the same number - they're both Ultimate players
too) or try my mobile 07971 699702 and I'll let you know what's happening.

Cheers for now

Ben
SuperFly


>I am a Warwick Bears 2nd's player from Nottingham wondering if there are
any practice sessions I may be able to join over the summer
>hols. Any information would be greatly appreciated, Cheers, Dave Oxendale
(Oscar) Bears 

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Like MMM, Albatross has been refused entry to the over subscribed Tour 2. I
realise that our cheque was sent  late, but it seems crazy to penalise
teams that played in Tour 1. I admit that i have not seen the list of teams
playing at Banbury, but i believe there is space for 28 teams. Strangely,
this coincides with the number who actually played in Bristol, and to me,
it seems only fair that a precedent on entry should be made to those
defending places.

Albatross made the effort to arrange a team at last minute to play in
Bristol, giving us a position to defend. It now  seems unfair that we are
not in a position to do this. If ejection is chosen on an administration
basis, would it not  seem more reasonable to favour teams that have already
played?

                                                                           
 Jo Turner                                                                 
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All,

I regret to inform you that due to the over subscription of teams at
Tour 2 you have been unfortunately selected as a team that will not be
able to attend. Please see below for the reasons.

I apologise for the delay in this but unfortunately it has not been
possible for me to make an earlier decision. It is important that teams
organise their entries faster, and having entered ensure that they do
have a team ready and able to compete. When the tournament is limited in
size we must ensure that teams that are expected to attend actually turn
up.

You will of course have all monies refunded to you.

Individual players will be able to play for other teams under the guest
rules, and this will not compromise the rostering of your team. Please
ensure that your players know this and the reasons why their team is
not attending.

If you wish to discuss this further please mail me rather than anyone
else (particularly Paul Unwin - TD) as he had no input in the decision,
other than providing information to the u8c.

Chris Hughes
DoC

Reasons for Ejection:
Point Blank - PB have been blacklisted for late withdrawal from Tour
one as per the tour rules. This would also have been applied to Skunks
for the same reasons but they have declined to enter because of this.
This is clearly laid out in the tour rules as distributed to team contacts
at the beginning of the season.

Albatross & Mohawk Mwnci Magic - Both teams were one of many teams who
entered the event late. However, the decision of the u8c committee was
to eject teams who had not paid their deposit in time - since
notification of this was given in the tour rules at the beginning of the
season,
and the issues involved with raising funds are less when talking about
a sum of 15 pounds. When more than one team did not pay the deposit,
but had paid tournament entry fee, the last entering teams would be the
teams who would be declined. In this situation, both teams were on
separate days from any other teams in the same situation, and so did not
rely on the order of envelopes being opened.
Both Albatross and Mohawk Mwnci Magic can not be ejected from T3 in
this, or any other fashion, assuming that you satisfy the entry
requirements for Southampton, including the tour deposit.
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If your cheque was late, and the tournament is full by the time yours is received, it's your own fault!

At the same time the Tour Rules clearly state the principle of the Tour Waiting List, and how, in the event of oversubscription, teams near the bottom of the rankings of the previous event will be refused entry in favour of new teams...

Looks like you're not going!

Wayne Retter

PS: These are entirely personal opinions, so may well be phrased in a manner that may annoy (especially as I haven't read the initial mail that you've forwarded).
u8c (and the DoC in particular) put in a LOT of hard work, VOLUNTARILY. They don't get as much thanks as they ought.

PPS: in case you're wondering:

Q: Why aren't the Rules on the website?
A: 'cos Their isn't a 2001 website
Q: Why?
A: 'cos that's something I did voluntarily for the last 3 years, and am not doing this year.

Q: anyone else want to volunteer to run it? obviously, a little bit of knowledge would be of use.


On Wed, 2 May 2001 13:27:44 +0100 Jonathan_Turner@bdo.co.uk wrote:
> Like MMM, Albatross has been refused entry to the over subscribed Tour 2. I
> realise that our cheque was sent  late, but...
-- 
Wayne Retter
w.retter@bigfoot.com
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I'm seeing a strange connection between Albatross
and that couple who almost won 3 million. Miss the
deadline and pay the price.
While I don't think it's crazy to penalise teams who
don't sent the money on time, I do know
I'd feel if bit annoyed if we got our cheque in on 
time but still were the 29th team in behind a few new
ones. It might be an idea to impose two 
deadlines the way some ticket sales work.  The first
deadline open only to teams who were in the previous 
event(s)and the second afterwards to allow new teams 
in to any spaces left by teams not making the first 
dead line. This way new teams with a quick draw on
the cheque book can only really bump out last 
event's teams who are really slow on the draw.

-------------------
Steve G
Flyght Club


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan_Turner@bdo.co.uk [mailto:Jonathan_Turner@bdo.co.uk]
> Sent: 02 May 2001 13:28
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Cc: albatrossultimate@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Tour 2 Ejections
> 
> 
> Like MMM, Albatross has been refused entry to the over 
> subscribed Tour 2. I
> realise that our cheque was sent  late, but it seems crazy to penalise
> teams that played in Tour 1. I admit that i have not seen the 
> list of teams
> playing at Banbury, but i believe there is space for 28 
> teams. Strangely,
> this coincides with the number who actually played in 
> Bristol, and to me,
> it seems only fair that a precedent on entry should be made to those
> defending places.
> 
> Albatross made the effort to arrange a team at last minute to play in
> Bristol, giving us a position to defend. It now  seems unfair 
> that we are
> not in a position to do this. If ejection is chosen on an 
> administration
> basis, would it not  seem more reasonable to favour teams 
> that have already
> played?
> 
>                                                               
>              
>  Jo Turner                                                    
>              
>  Albatross                                                    
>              
>                                                               
>              
>                                                               
>              
>                                                               
>              
>                                                               
>              
>                                                               
>              
>                                                               
>      From:   
>        Chris Hughes <cjhughes@talk21.com>  | Block Address | 
> Add to        
>        Address Book                                           
>              
>                                                               
>        To:   
>        "'jonathon.turner@bdo.co.uk'" 
> <jonathon.turner@bdo.co.uk>,          
>        "'jo_turner@yahoo.com'" <jo_turner@yahoo.com>,         
>              
>        "'john.garrett@otis.com'" <john.garrett@otis.com>,     
>              
>        "'NWEBBER@DERA.GOV.UK'" <NWEBBER@DERA.GOV.UK>,         
>              
>        "'bruce@pointblank.co.uk'" <bruce@pointblank.co.uk>    
>              
>                                                               
>        CC:   
>        'Andrew Tucker' <andrew.tucker@warwick.ac.uk>, 'u8c'   
>              
>        <u8c@egroups.com>, "'punwin@grantham.ac.uk'"           
>              
>        <punwin@grantham.ac.uk>, 'Dora Kemp' <dak12@cam.ac.uk> 
>              
>                                                               
>   Subject:   
>        Tour 2 Ejections                                       
>              
>                                                               
>      Date:   
>        Tue, 1 May 2001 23:30:55 +0100                         
>              
>                                                               
>              
>                                                               
>              
> 
> 
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> I regret to inform you that due to the over subscription of teams at
> Tour 2 you have been unfortunately selected as a team that will not be
> able to attend. Please see below for the reasons.
> 
> I apologise for the delay in this but unfortunately it has not been
> possible for me to make an earlier decision. It is important 
> that teams
> organise their entries faster, and having entered ensure that they do
> have a team ready and able to compete. When the tournament is 
> limited in
> size we must ensure that teams that are expected to attend 
> actually turn
> up.
> 
> You will of course have all monies refunded to you.
> 
> Individual players will be able to play for other teams under 
> the guest
> rules, and this will not compromise the rostering of your team. Please
> ensure that your players know this and the reasons why their team is
> not attending.
> 
> If you wish to discuss this further please mail me rather than anyone
> else (particularly Paul Unwin - TD) as he had no input in the 
> decision,
> other than providing information to the u8c.
> 
> Chris Hughes
> DoC
> 
> Reasons for Ejection:
> Point Blank - PB have been blacklisted for late withdrawal from Tour
> one as per the tour rules. This would also have been applied to Skunks
> for the same reasons but they have declined to enter because of this.
> This is clearly laid out in the tour rules as distributed to 
> team contacts
> at the beginning of the season.
> 
> Albatross & Mohawk Mwnci Magic - Both teams were one of many teams who
> entered the event late. However, the decision of the u8c committee was
> to eject teams who had not paid their deposit in time - since
> notification of this was given in the tour rules at the 
> beginning of the
> season,
> and the issues involved with raising funds are less when talking about
> a sum of 15 pounds. When more than one team did not pay the deposit,
> but had paid tournament entry fee, the last entering teams 
> would be the
> teams who would be declined. In this situation, both teams were on
> separate days from any other teams in the same situation, and 
> so did not
> rely on the order of envelopes being opened.
> Both Albatross and Mohawk Mwnci Magic can not be ejected from T3 in
> this, or any other fashion, assuming that you satisfy the entry
> requirements for Southampton, including the tour deposit.
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> Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to carry out 
> investment business
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Is anyone going to tour 2 from Exeter direction? If so is there any chance
of a lift there. or if that is not posiable could someone spare the time to
pick me up from the station on saturday morning?

Rob Daniels
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basic points allocation for results of Tour 1

POSITION TEAM                 POINTS
 1      Clapham 1                250
 2      Chevron Action Flash     230
 3      Clapham 2                222
 4      Fusion 1                 210
 5      LeedsLeedsLeeds          205
 6      TeamShark                190
 7      Fluid Druids             181
 8      Red                      170
 9      Smash & Grab             160
10      Whey                     150
11      Blue Arse Flies Open     141
12      Headrush                 130
13      Hammerage                125
14      Un Poco Loco             110
15      Strange Blue             101
16      Nightfever                90
17      Blue Arse Flies Mixed     81
18      Fusion 2                  73
19      Flyght Club               67
20      GB Juniors                60
21      Jedi                      53
22      Sublime                   47
23      Slipdisc                  40
24      UWE                       33
25      Albatross                 27
26      Mohawk Mwnci Magic        20
27      Mild Mannered Janitor     13
28      Bears                      7


Points for positions 1-17 are fixed,
Teams below 17th in m'th position (with N teams in the tournament) score
80*(N+1-m)/(N-16) points, (rounding to the nearest integer).


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The following teams have entered Tour 2, Banbury, successfully.

Clapham Ultimate 1
Chevron action flash
Clapham Ultimate 2
Fusion 1
Leeds Leeds Leeds
Team Shark
Fluid Druids
Red
Smash and Grab
Whey
Blue arse flies open
Headrush
Hammerage
Un Pocco Loco
Strange Blue
Nightfever
Blue arse flies Mixed
Fusion 2
Flyght Club
GB Juniors
Leeds Jedi
Slipdisc
Mild Mannered Janitors
Warwick Bears
Trigger Happy
Leicester Hustlers
Northern Roses
Bliss


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Cambridge Co-ed Tournament 26th/27th May

The first event of this year's Co-ed Tour will be held at Coldhams Common,
Cambridge (venue for last year's first Co-ed tournament and Open
Nationals).  We plan for a 16 team tournament.  The tournament will be
played to WFDF co-ed rules (i.e. 3-4 gender split on the pitch), so each team
should aim to bring at least 5 women and 5 men.  Teams for the co-ed tour
must be rostered, but individuals may change teams during the season.
To play for a team at the final event of the year, you must have played
for that team at one of the earlier tournaments.

Showers and cheap food will be available onsite and there should be a
party on saturday night. Unfortunately there is no camping in Cambridge
itself.  We are able to offer a limited amount of floorspace (first come,
first served)
and a list of B&B plus lots of other useful info is available at the
tournament website:
http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam1/

The tournament fee is 100 pounds per team.  To reserve a place, please
send cheques made out to 'Cambridge University Ultimate Frisbee Club' to

Dora Kemp
12a Amwell Road
Cambridge
CB4 2UH

Please include your team contact details along with the cheque.
The deadline is Friday 18th May.
See you there!

Rob Hadfield
President
Strange Blue Cambridge Ultimate

============
Robert Hadfield
Department of Materials Sciences
University of Cambridge, U.K.
Pembroke Street
Cambridge
CB2 3QZ
Tel:+44 1223 334375
Fax:+44 1223 334373
E-mail: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk



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Couple of pick ups seeking ulimately fun time in Banbury. Ready to try 
anything. Tour II seems good time to build a meaningful relationship. 
Standard intermediate but willing to get horizontal. please reply to...

pickups@sublimeultimate.co.uk

cheers

Sublime
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Hi all, sorry to dump this on Britdisc, but we're desperate...

We need a new housemate all of a sudden, to move in as soon as possible.

Basically, we're looking for a non-smoking young lady, to pay £115ish per 
week. House is between Maida Vale and Kilburn Park tubes, nicely done out, 
wood floors, clean + tidy. Room is not huge, but has doors onto a patio 
garden. Two parking spaces available as well!

We are 3 guys and a girl (one couple) who are generally cool and good for a 
laugh, but will be poor very soon if no flat mate appears...

Thanks and sorry again

Adam
07939 542 584
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  hello, as our check for mohawk mwnci magic didn't get in on time i would 
like to pick up with someone for tour 2.
cheers juan

Matt 'juan' Cutler
Mohawks Club Secretary
25 DeMontford Road.
Brighton
BN2 3AW
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Hi,

Can anyone who had anything to do with organising
Bristol Indoors this year please get in touch.

Thanks
Sarah
BAF / Whiplash

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are there any teams that would like to share a coach
to get to nantes in june? at the moment we have flyght
club, random fling and strange blue (?), but we could
do with one or two ten man teams to fill the bus up
and reduce the cost. we'll be leaving from nottingham
on fri 1st, via cambridge, via london (if need be) to
dover.
anybody interested, please get in touch, cost should
be no more than £50 per head.

dan
flyght club
fly tnt

ps. does anyone wanna pick up for flyght club, cos
we're going iron man at the moment.

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 03 May 2001 17:21
To: Chevy
Subject: [chevron] Prague


For anyone else who (like me) may be concerned about the e-mail yesterday re
passport validity for Prague (the statement made referred to Passports
having to "be valid for six months", but didn't specify if this was 6 months
before or after - I only received mine last month!!), I've telephoned the
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must be valid for 3 months AFTER your intended date of departure from the
Czech Republic.

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affected by this.

Ad.



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Easter's been and gone, and people are contemplating the Summer... ain't that nice!

High on the list appears to be the Fluid Druids' ROSS ON WYE tournament, generally hosted sometime between the beginning of July and early August.

In answer to the questions I've so far received:

Yes, we are planning to hold Ross again this year.

No, nobody can reserve a space up front
[unless, maybe, they send me a 500.00 quid cheque and don't expect a refund]

The only definite information that we have is:
   There will be a beer race;
   I'll need to arrange to recover the trophy from last year's winners - Log.

and that's of little use to any of you, now, is it ?


If you want to start spreading rumours, there's a faint possibility that we might consider holding the 20th Ross-on-Wye tournament on the same w/e as the TD's 30th birthday!!!
If so, we're considering a champagne brunch, interactive table football, and hot tubs... which means that it'll be expensive.
[let me define "expensive": You think the Tour is expensive? You ain't seen NOTHING yet!]


In the meantime, stop bugging us. We'll get it organised, and we'll let you know.

Trust us!

Regards
Wayne

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What he said, just with a few years less experience.

-Felix/Bath


>   hello, as our check for mohawk mwnci magic didn't get in on time i would 
> like to pick up with someone for tour 2.
> cheers juan
> 
> Matt 'juan' Cutler
> Mohawks Club Secretary
> 25 DeMontford Road.
> Brighton
> BN2 3AW
> tel 01273 383857
> 
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> Yes, we are planning to hold Ross again this year.
> 
> No, nobody can reserve a space up front
> [unless, maybe, they send me a 500.00 quid cheque and don't expect a refund]

Can you indicate what fraction of the total tournament fee that will 
be?

Pete Connor

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>> No, nobody can reserve a space up front
>> [unless, maybe, they send me a 500.00 quid cheque and don't expect a refund]
>
>Can you indicate what fraction of the total tournament fee that will 
>be?

Duh! That's sooo EASY - It's nothing to do with the tournament fee!

For that matter, "maybe" means that it probably won't reserve you a
space, either.

Wayne

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> >> No, nobody can reserve a space up front
> >> [unless, maybe, they send me a 500.00 quid cheque and don't expect a 
>refund]
> >
> >Can you indicate what fraction of the total tournament fee that will
> >be?
>
>Duh! That's sooo EASY - It's nothing to do with the tournament fee!
>
>For that matter, "maybe" means that it probably won't reserve you a
>space, either.
>
>Wayne
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Hi Brit-discers!

This is just the report for the first ever CALEDONIAN ULTIMATE BEACH EVENT 
(C.U.B.E.).  Firstly, you're not going to believe it but the weather was 
outstanding - as a result we're all rather sun burnt.

6 teams in total came and competed - Round Robin tournament and then semis 
and finals from the ranking all took place on Saturday.  Sunday was a hat 
tournament.

1 - Sneeekies  (Cup winner)
2 - Cognitive Hobo's
3 - Bearded Ladies
4 - Shooting Stars
5 - Stirling Blaze (SOTG winners)
6 - T.T.T.A  (wooden spoon/garden gnome winners)

SOTG - Stirling Blaze won it fair and square, although EVERY team got voted 
for.  The team spirits were outstanding on all accounts.

The final saw one of Aberdeens Positive Mojo's three teams pitted against 
Sneeekies.  The game was set for 25 minutes and 2 point cap agreed no matter 
what the score.  Sneeekies came out fighting right from the beginning with 
smooth long plays and brilliant defence.  The final score at the buzzer was 
7 - 4 to Sneeekies.  We kept playing and Cog. Hobo's managed to catch up and 
overtake to get 8 - 7.  Sneeekies pulled off another point to equalise and 
it went into 'sudden death'.  Sneeekies then scored the decider.

The Hat tournament got off with a suitably hung over start.  All games in 
this were also very friendly.  On the side, frisbee golf through the dunes 
gave a bit of a interesting but gentle break from running in soft sand all 
the time, plus frisbee tennis and volleyball also made an appearance.

May I just pass along a big thank you to all the teams that made it up for 
the tournament.  It made it very worthwhile, enjoyable and a whole lotta 
fun.  We, Positive Mojo, look forward to seeing you all back next year for 
CUBE 2002.
Thanks,
Dave
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Aloha Beach Ultimate Lovers,

hope all is well,
just find on the Paganello 2001 section of the web site:

1) Final placings + curiosities
more is coming: articles and comments by Tony Leonardo,
your favourite Beach Ultimate journalist

2) Links to:

-Photoaward: how to enter the competition and win a free stay at Paga2002

-All the results (pdf format)

-Jingles: that Beach thrill once again (mp3 format)

- Pictures: hot shots taken at the Beach (thanks to Sebastian Schultz:
the webmaster promised to put your name on the site soon, sorry).
The section (page 2) aslo includes
Chris McTiernan's and Kinematrix galleries (hundreds of photos!)
More is coming and if you would like to link your gallery, just let us know, but
don't forget the photoaward!

Check it all out at:
http://www.paganello.com/eng/paga2001/index.html

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-Jumpi

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 Match during 1H with 2 points of 
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Hi I' m gerald, we organize an open infrance 1st 4th august 
2001. There will have ultimate and disc golf.There will be 
6 teams. The program : 

Wesdnesday 1st : 
 - disc golf - 1st game-
 - ultimate : 6 matches with 2 matches by teams
 Match during 1H with 2 points of 
difference

Thursday 2th 
 - disc golf - 2nd games -
 - ultimate : same things
Friday 3rd :
 - disc golf - 3rd games - 
 -there will have the disconnection near the 
beach, on the evening. 
 -During the afternoon, there will have 
demonstrations on the beach

Saturday 4th : 
 - disc golf - last games-
 - finals : 1 match by team (19H - 22H)

You can inscript you by internet, you send me a mail with 
tiese informations : 

 Team name : .....................
 Country : .......................
 Noumbers of players : ...........
 Numbers of disc golfers : ..........
 Day when you arrive: .............
 Day of departure : ...............

The lodgment will be in a camping, it's very cheap. There 
will have breakfast everymorning. You have to lunch by 
yourself. Wesdnesday, Friday, Saturday dinner will ber 
prepared.

If you have any questions, you can send me a mail at 
dje47@caramail.com. It stay 4 places so you have to go 
inscribe you quickly.

bye, les anges des monts
______________________________________________________
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Could somebody from Northern Roses please send me a contact 
address as there is'nt one on ukultimate website.
Thanks

Kev (Skunks)

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Huge thanks to Dave and the Aberdeen crew for an absolutely splendid
tournament. Fantastic venue, fantastic people, even fantasticker weather. 

You lot that didn't come missed out big time. And Aberdeen isn't as far
away as you think - it's only 2 hours from Edinburgh, so well within reach
of Leeds, Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham etc etc etc. One of our players
came all the way from Amsterdam for the weekend.

Mig
Sneeekys - British Beach Ultimate Champions 


Well - there's no other UK beach tournaments in the diary, so anyone that
wants our Lonsdale belt is gonna have to organise one, invite us and beat
us....




Dave Gardner wrote:
> 
> Hi Brit-discers!
> 
> This is just the report for the first ever CALEDONIAN ULTIMATE BEACH EVENT
> (C.U.B.E.).  Firstly, you're not going to believe it but the weather was
> outstanding - as a result we're all rather sun burnt.
> 
> 6 teams in total came and competed - Round Robin tournament and then semis
> and finals from the ranking all took place on Saturday.  Sunday was a hat
> tournament.
> 
> 1 - Sneeekies  (Cup winner)
> 2 - Cognitive Hobo's
> 3 - Bearded Ladies
> 4 - Shooting Stars
> 5 - Stirling Blaze (SOTG winners)
> 6 - T.T.T.A  (wooden spoon/garden gnome winners)
> 
> SOTG - Stirling Blaze won it fair and square, although EVERY team got voted
> for.  The team spirits were outstanding on all accounts.
> 
> The final saw one of Aberdeens Positive Mojo's three teams pitted against
> Sneeekies.  The game was set for 25 minutes and 2 point cap agreed no matter
> what the score.  Sneeekies came out fighting right from the beginning with
> smooth long plays and brilliant defence.  The final score at the buzzer was
> 7 - 4 to Sneeekies.  We kept playing and Cog. Hobo's managed to catch up and
> overtake to get 8 - 7.  Sneeekies pulled off another point to equalise and
> it went into 'sudden death'.  Sneeekies then scored the decider.
> 
> The Hat tournament got off with a suitably hung over start.  All games in
> this were also very friendly.  On the side, frisbee golf through the dunes
> gave a bit of a interesting but gentle break from running in soft sand all
> the time, plus frisbee tennis and volleyball also made an appearance.
> 
> May I just pass along a big thank you to all the teams that made it up for
> the tournament.  It made it very worthwhile, enjoyable and a whole lotta
> fun.  We, Positive Mojo, look forward to seeing you all back next year for
> CUBE 2002.
> Thanks,
> Dave
> (capt. Positive Mojo)
> 
> _________________________________________________________________________
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Antigen for Exchange found Unknown infected with VBS/Tam.A.Worm
(CA(InoculateIT)) virus.
The file is currently Detected.  The message, "urgent SOS", was
sent from Pierrick SIMON  and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at CEC/Gateway/EX3BEIMCOIMS02.

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To: Pierrick SIMON <pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr>, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: urgent SOS  ----  Virus in Attachment
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Just to let those of you with out virus checkers know that I got the
following message in this email.
So don't open the attachment!
 
Sonic

-----Original Message-----
From: Pierrick SIMON [mailto:pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:20 AM
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: urgent SOS


File attachment: Unknown09c1.data The file attached to this email was
removed because it was infected with the VBS.Tam.A virus. 


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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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<BODY>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=869295115-08052001>Just 
to let those of you with out virus checkers know that I got the following 
message in this email.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=869295115-08052001>So 
don't open the attachment!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=869295115-08052001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=869295115-08052001>Sonic</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pierrick SIMON 
  [mailto:pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 08, 2001 
  9:20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> urgent 
  SOS<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>File attachment: Unknown09c1.data The file attached to 
  this email was removed because it was infected with the VBS.Tam.A virus. 
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Panda Antivirus has found the following viruses in the message:
	Sent by :	Pierrick SIMON
	Address :	pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr
	To :	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
	Subject :	urgent SOS
	Date :	08/05/2001  16:41:33

The Exchange server anti virus software has removed a virus from this e-mail

File :  urgent SOS
	   Virus :	Kak.Worm.D - Ignored

http://www.pandasoftware.com

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Subject: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
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There is an Outlook virus in the following message...

Do not open that mail unless you're really sure you're protected from
ActiveX controls.

The message contents were:

> Help me !!!
> i'm looking for Jon Hope personal adress or phone number...
> Pleeeeeeeeeeeease it's very urgent.
> Pierik (frisbeurs nantais - france)
> pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr
> frisbeurs@free.fr

Ralf.

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Let's just ban Frenchies from Britdisc!



-----Original Message-----
From: Ranulf Doswell [mailto:ralf@ranulf.net]
Sent: 08 May 2001 17:08
To: Britdisc
Subject: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"


There is an Outlook virus in the following message...

Do not open that mail unless you're really sure you're protected from
ActiveX controls.

The message contents were:

> Help me !!!
> i'm looking for Jon Hope personal adress or phone number...
> Pleeeeeeeeeeeease it's very urgent.
> Pierik (frisbeurs nantais - france)
> pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr
> frisbeurs@free.fr

Ralf.

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Incident Information:-

Originator:    "Pierrick SIMON" <pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr>
Recipients:    britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, CN=Stuart
Mullinger/OU=OMT/O=OMGROUP@OMGROUP
Subject:  urgent SOS

WARNING:  The file att1.htm you received was infected with the VBS/Tam@M virus.
The file attachment was not successfully cleaned.


From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk  Tue May  8 22:48:39 2001
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From: "Juan Carlos Cabrejas" <cabrejas@ceinrema.com>
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Subject: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
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Roger,

I don´t think this kind of replies are funny at all, especially since
ultimate players seem to have a particularly open mind to foreigners.

Whether it is in jest or not, believe me, if you were living in a foreign
country you would not enjoy a comment like the previous one.

I´ve had it too many times myself, and then people come to me saying, well,
it was not intended as an offense, it was just for fun. Well, it isn´t.

Best regards,

Juan Carlos

----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
To: 'Ranulf Doswell' <ralf@ranulf.net>; Britdisc
<britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"


> Let's just ban Frenchies from Britdisc!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ranulf Doswell [mailto:ralf@ranulf.net]
> Sent: 08 May 2001 17:08
> To: Britdisc
> Subject: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
>
>
> There is an Outlook virus in the following message...
>
> Do not open that mail unless you're really sure you're protected from
> ActiveX controls.
>
> The message contents were:
>
> > Help me !!!
> > i'm looking for Jon Hope personal adress or phone number...
> > Pleeeeeeeeeeeease it's very urgent.
> > Pierik (frisbeurs nantais - france)
> > pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr
> > frisbeurs@free.fr
>
> Ralf.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd
> does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any
> views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not
> necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd.
>

From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk  Wed May  9 00:34:17 2001
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From: "Harvey" <harvey@backspin.co.uk>
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surely it would be more prudent to ensure that all messages are showered,
cleaned, dipped in disinfectant and conform to MAFF regulations before they
are submitted to britdisc.

failure to comply will result in more bad gags from roger and I.

RV

> Let's just ban Frenchies from Britdisc!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ranulf Doswell [mailto:ralf@ranulf.net]
> Sent: 08 May 2001 17:08
> To: Britdisc
> Subject: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
>
>
> There is an Outlook virus in the following message...
>
> Do not open that mail unless you're really sure you're protected from
> ActiveX controls.
>
> The message contents were:
>
> > Help me !!!
> > i'm looking for Jon Hope personal adress or phone number...
> > Pleeeeeeeeeeeease it's very urgent.
> > Pierik (frisbeurs nantais - france)
> > pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr
> > frisbeurs@free.fr
>
> Ralf.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd
> does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any
> views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not
> necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd.
>


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From: felixsh@tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Felix)
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I agree.  Shut the fuck up.


-- Begin original message --

> From: "Juan Carlos Cabrejas" <cabrejas@ceinrema.com>
> Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:47:29 +0200
> Subject: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> 
> Roger,
> 
> I don´t think this kind of replies are funny at all, especially since
> ultimate players seem to have a particularly open mind to foreigners.
> 
> Whether it is in jest or not, believe me, if you were living in a foreign
> country you would not enjoy a comment like the previous one.
> 
> I´ve had it too many times myself, and then people come to me saying, well,
> it was not intended as an offense, it was just for fun. Well, it isn´t.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Juan Carlos
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
> To: 'Ranulf Doswell' <ralf@ranulf.net>; Britdisc
> <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:39 PM
> Subject: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
> 
> 
> > Let's just ban Frenchies from Britdisc!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ranulf Doswell [mailto:ralf@ranulf.net]
> > Sent: 08 May 2001 17:08
> > To: Britdisc
> > Subject: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
> >
> >
> > There is an Outlook virus in the following message...
> >
> > Do not open that mail unless you're really sure you're protected from
> > ActiveX controls.
> >
> > The message contents were:
> >
> > > Help me !!!
> > > i'm looking for Jon Hope personal adress or phone number...
> > > Pleeeeeeeeeeeease it's very urgent.
> > > Pierik (frisbeurs nantais - france)
> > > pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr
> > > frisbeurs@free.fr
> >
> > Ralf.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
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> 
> 

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From: "Alex Livingstone" <alex.livingstone@virgin.net>
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And you think telling someone to 'shut the fuck up' helps.
That's just as bad!
Asking for an apology might have been a better approach.

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
[mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Felix
Sent: 09 May 2001 00:53
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Subject: Re: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"


I agree.  Shut the fuck up.


-- Begin original message --

> From: "Juan Carlos Cabrejas" <cabrejas@ceinrema.com>
> Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:47:29 +0200
> Subject: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>
> Roger,
>
> I don´t think this kind of replies are funny at all, especially since
> ultimate players seem to have a particularly open mind to foreigners.
>
> Whether it is in jest or not, believe me, if you were living in a foreign
> country you would not enjoy a comment like the previous one.
>
> I´ve had it too many times myself, and then people come to me saying,
well,
> it was not intended as an offense, it was just for fun. Well, it isn´t.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Juan Carlos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
> To: 'Ranulf Doswell' <ralf@ranulf.net>; Britdisc
> <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:39 PM
> Subject: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
>
>
> > Let's just ban Frenchies from Britdisc!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ranulf Doswell [mailto:ralf@ranulf.net]
> > Sent: 08 May 2001 17:08
> > To: Britdisc
> > Subject: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
> >
> >
> > There is an Outlook virus in the following message...
> >
> > Do not open that mail unless you're really sure you're protected from
> > ActiveX controls.
> >
> > The message contents were:
> >
> > > Help me !!!
> > > i'm looking for Jon Hope personal adress or phone number...
> > > Pleeeeeeeeeeeease it's very urgent.
> > > Pierik (frisbeurs nantais - france)
> > > pierik.mel.simal@wanadoo.fr
> > > frisbeurs@free.fr
> >
> > Ralf.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd
> > does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.
Any
> > views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not
> > necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd.
> >
>
>

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Ladies,

Don't forget the women's event happening at Southampton Tour on the 23rd and
24th of June. If you want to play and aren't sure you can get a whole team
to go then reply to me and I will arrange some kind of pick-up team.
Students, I know the dates are outside of term time which means lifts may be
a problem, but there are people going from all over the country so if you
ask nicely and are prepared to get your legs out, you should do ok!!

Finally, I need to get an idea of how many teams we might have so if you
could let me know if you are interested, that would be great.

Thanks,

Maria

PS. Sal, can you put this on the student newsgroup, if you have access.
Cheers mate.

> ----------
> From: 	H.S.PENNINGTON[SMTP:hsp298@soton.ac.uk]
> Sent: 	30 April 2001 18:11
> To: 	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: 	Womens outdoor Nationals
> 
> Sorry to change things but due to the womens tour events happening this
> summer 
> it has been decided to host the nationals after the summer holidays, in 
> September/October. 
> 
> I hope this is okay with everyone, a date will be published nearer the
> time.
> 
> Thank you to everyone who got back to me with venues, we may still need to
> you 
> I will get in contact nearer the tournament.
> 
> Sally
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I thought it was quite amusing that after a string of mails closely
related to the subject of ultimate, the first BritDisc message I should
read after that started with 'Ladies, ....'

Hedge

ps: kiss and make up, children.

On Wed, 9 May 2001, Alex Livingstone wrote:

> And you think telling someone to 'shut the fuck up' helps.
> That's just as bad!
> Asking for an apology might have been a better approach.
> 
> Alex
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Felix
> Sent: 09 May 2001 00:53
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
> 
> 
> I agree.  Shut the fuck up.
> 
> 
> -- Begin original message --
> 
> > From: "Juan Carlos Cabrejas" <cabrejas@ceinrema.com>
> > Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:47:29 +0200
> > Subject: RE: DO NOT OPEN "urgent SOS"
> > To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> >

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A friend of mine does the Great Brain Quiz

In the most recent quiz, one of the questions is "Which troublesome =
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Hi all,

Due to last minute pull outs Hustlers are down to 8 players for Tour 2 this weekend and naturally we don't want to put in all that effort, so we're looking for some pick ups.

If you're interested in playing this weekend please get back to me ASAP. 

Felix/Matt, did you find a team? We're happy to have you if you didn't. I would have e-mailed direct but I only have access to the BD archive here, so I couldn't get your e-mail address.

Matt
Leicester Hustlers

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Are there any directions available yet? Or have I just missed them?

Also, is camping available on site or elsewhere? and is there an accommodation list?


Thanks.

Mal.
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Hi All

30 June - 1st July
Just a quick note to say camping will be free and Double locks will be doing
a BBQ. They have requested that we eat there and drink there as they are
providing free camping. There will also be food available near the pitches
during the day. The more people the better. There is no problem with some
people just turning up on the day but it would help me a lot if you could
tell me if you are thinking of coming so I have a rough idea of numbers.

Rob Daniels
Exeter University
Uriel-Tournament Organiser
EUSAC-Boat Officer
Tel-07733152313

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From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" <punwin@grantham.ac.uk>
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:17:00 +0100

this is mostly repeated info from original invite sent out 9th April.

TOUR 2 Banbury
12/13 May 2001

Tour 2 is being held at Bodicote Park, Banbury on the weekend of the
12/13th May.

There will be 28 teams.

CAMPING - On site camping available with 24hr toilet facilities open to
all. Changing rooms with hot showers will be available.

FOOD - will be laid on during Saturday and sunday. We've negotiated some
discounts with some takeaways and restaurants. Party starts at 9 / bar /
late licence, 'til1am.

DIRECTIONS TO BODICOTE PARK: Can be found at

http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/brufc/index.htm
http://www.banbury-cross.co.uk/bodicotepark/index.htm#map

ACCOMMODATION: here is a list of BnBs/hotels:

Amberley Guest House 151 Middleton Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 255797
Ashley Guest House 58 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250539
Avonlea Guest House 41 Southam Road Banbury		Tel 01295 267837
Banbury Cross Bed and Breakfast 1 Brougton Rd Banbury	Tel 01295 266048
Belmont Guest House 34 Crouch Street Banbury 		Tel 01295 262308
Calthorpe Lodge Guest House 4 Calthorpe St Banbury 	Tel 01295 252325
Cotefield B & B 1 Cotefield Cottages Bodicote Banbury	Tel 01295 264977
Fairlawns Guest House 60 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 262461
Fair View Lodge Guest Hse 1 Fairview Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262181
Fernliegh Guest House 67 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250853
Prospect Guest House 70 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 268749
The Roebuck Inn Stratford Road  Drayton Banbury		Tel 01295 730542
Treetops Guest House 28 Dashwood Road Banbury 		Tel 01295 254444
Virginia House B&B 1 High Street Bloxham Banbury	Tel 01295 720596
Winstons Guest House 65 Oxford Road Banbury 		Tel 01295 270790


Hotels and Inns

The Cartwright arms Croughton Road Aynho Banbury	Tel 01869 811111
Cromwell Lodge Hotel 9-11 North Bar Banbury		Tel 01295 259781
Easington House Hotel 50 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 270181
The Deddington Arms HorsefAIr Deddington		Tel 01869 338364
Holcombe Hotel High Street Deddington			Tel 01869 338274
Horse and Groom Milcombe Banbury			Tel 01295 720471
Lismore Hotel 61 Oxford Road Banbury			Tel 01295 267661
The Marlborough Arms 1a Gatteridge St Banbury 		Tel 01295 258258
The Lampet Arms Main St Tadmarton Banbury		Tel 01295 780070
The Red Lion at Adderbury, Adderbury Banbury		Tel 01295 810269
The Swan Inn  3 South Bar Banbury			Tel 01295 262900


If you need either of us we can be contacted via:

E-mail address: punwin@grantham.ac.uk (for all queries)
jim.unwin@rsosoutheast.org.uk (if you cant raise Stig)
phone: 01476 577993 (Stigs home phone)
or 0779 0187203 during the weekend itself.

time of captains meeting shall follow ASAP, after i have had the schedule
confirmed.

Stig


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does anyone know who is dealling with refunds from tour 1, as it has been 3
weeks since the event, and I am due £105. I am a student so that money would
come in v. handy!!!

John Armitage

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Hi

Do we have any idea of schedule/groups/start times for this weekend yet?

Would appreciate it if we could see in advance.

Cheers,
Matt
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Games shall start at 9.30
Captains meeting at 9 in Members Bar.

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Hi BD

Invites for Tour 3 in Southampton Have been sent out today. 
Tour 3 will be held at the University of Southampton sports 
grounds, offering some of the best pitches for playing 
ultimate on.

As far as costs are concerned, these will again be 
according to teams ranking after tour 2:

1-8: 	£135
9-16:	£120
17-24:	£110
25+:	£100

We have space for 30 teams (32 inc. x2 Skunks) for the tour 
event and up to 8 teams for the womens event (See the 
message below from Maria).

Entry will be on a first come first serve basis.

Any problems contact me, not britdisc.

Cheers
	Kevin Blanch a.k.a. Kev (Skunks capt.)


Women's Outdoor Ultimate 2001


Just a quick reminder to let you know that in an effort to encourage the growth of women's ultimate in Britain, for the first time this year there will be two outdoor tournaments organised for women in addition to Nationals. The first event will be held at Southampton on the 23th / 24th of June and the second event will take place at Leeds on the 21st / 22nd of July. These dates and venues have deliberately been selected to coincide with Tour Events that are happening on the same weekend and in the same location so that enthusiastic players who want to take part in the women's event, will be able to play as many Open Tour games with their Open teams as the tournament timetables allow. 

If you would like to take part or have any suggestions, please contact me on

maria.cahill@uk.gases.boc.com
07900 242859
01325 240938 (after 5:30pm)

If you are struggling to get enough players together to form a team but are keen to get involved please contact me and I will try to arrange a pick-up team.

Boys, if you know of any women who might be interested please pass th


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In case anyone can give me a lift but gets this after
I've left work my mobile number is, 0771 99 47 27 8, 
Cheers, Joe.

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Last weekend we hosted the 9th edition of Tom's Tourney in Brugge. For
the third time the Red Lights won, but this year they had a lot of
opposition from the losing finalist : Bon Discmanche. After a thrilling
final (it took them over an hour and a half ...) the dutch champions won
by 15-13 !

Final ranking :

1.	Red Lights	NL
2.	Bon Discmanche	F
3.	Violently Happy	UK
4.	Iznogood	F
5.	Chevron Action Flash	UK
6.	Invalids	F
7.	Red	UK
8.	Fluid Druids	UK
9.	Jet Set	B
10.	Famous Belgians	UK
11.	LCF	NL
12.	BXLR8RS	B
13.	Freezzz Beezzz	B
14.	UFO	NL
15.	Night Fever	UK
16.	Arnhemse Meisjes	NL
17.	Hultic	F
18.	Synoptic	F
19.	XLR8RS	B
20.	Revolution'air	F
21.	Ars Ludendi	D
22.	DDT	NL
23.	Dutch Ladies	NL
24.	Maxima	NL

The spirit of the game was won by Night Fever.

All results can be found on www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz

See you all again next year on another location and with 32 teams !!!

Glenn
Freezzz Beezzz Brugge

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Hello,
Is there anyone driving from Oxford to Tour 2 tomorrow
morning who could give me a lift? I'll be at a
friend's on Banbury Road for maximum convenience, any
offers gratefully received, Cheers,
Joe,
Clapham.

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The Lurkers are running a tournament on teh 14/15 July.

Cost 			£80
Venue			Cobham, Surrey (As 2years ago)
Teams			16

Comments		"Best venue, better than most of the Tour Venues"

Visit			www.lfdc.co.uk for more details.

Cliff
			

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From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" <punwin@grantham.ac.uk>
Subject: Tour 2
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:59:00 +0100

All

there will be some errors in here as this is from memory. But you'll get
the gist.



Tour 2 was held in Banbury this weekend 12/13 May hosted by "the family Stig"

Sunburn, scratches and sore feet were much in evidence as the hot sun dried
the pitches hard. The severe wind and rain only rolled in as the final
campers packed up their tents.

The tournament saw teams adopting new offensive strategies. Several teams
notably Fusion and Clapham adopting a flat back 4 to overload zone
defences, and there were several versions of the horizontal stack evident.

Few surprises in the top 8.
Both Clapham teams advanced to the Semis from Pool A.  Clapham 1 featured
the old ones: Hill, Flores, Thompson, and Dugger, whilst the Clapham 2
squad had an overall younger antipodean feel.

Chevron advanced to the semis with LeedsLeedsLeeds who dispatched 4th
seeded Fusion to 5-12

5-8 was very competitive. Sharks whilst finishing 6th had lost to Red in
pool play. Druids, Red, Fusion and Team Shark had few problems holding off
the challenge from the winners of Pools C and D. Smash & Grab and Whey were
again unsuccessful in bids for top 8 and have some way to go.  Whey had won
Pool D (a mid division pool of death) on goal difference in a 3 way tie
with Hammerage and Headrush.

That Headrush won Spirit of the Game is perhaps testament to the spirit of
fairness in which they played these very tight games.

13-20
The controversial decision to displace Fever and Strange Blue from the top
16 was vindicated in part with Strange Blue finishing 19, but to be fair to
them, they seemed pretty low on numbers. Fever having felt hard done by had
a point to prove in their semi with Bliss who had displaced them. However
they were unable to give Hughes the Vs by losing their Final for 15 to a
BAF Mixed team featuring the handicapper himself.

SEMIS
There was widespread wish for an upset in the semis, but in both, the
Clapham teams took comfortable leads. However in the 2v3 semi Chevron
behind against Clapham 1 managed to pull a 16-10 deficit back before
succumbing 17-15?

Spirit was very much in evidence. When a disputed foul by "that old man
Jackson" on Aram was resolved after the intervention of a new Mr nice guy
Si Hill. Foul was declined by Aram leaving the disc with Chevron who
promptly worked it up field for a score. The on pitch politics between
Hill, Flores and Jackson was a spectacle in itself.

FINAL
The final was an all Clapham affair, which quelled the level of interest,
and left the Grandstand disappointingly empty.

Whilst the teams competed hard, and obviously cared about winning, the
final had the feel of a training game. The crowd were muted,
understandably, as they had no underdog to cheer on.

Pete Harvey (C1) injured himself quite badly early on but his old teammates
in White managed without him and drew out comfortable winners

The final was evidence of some consolidation by Clapham. Aram Flores in
accepting the winners' trophy, attributed Bullfrog success to the new way
in which they train. We want to know what you're doing!

PARTY
Party didn't go on long enough. Sorry about that. An extension seems to
have been declined but I havnt got to the bottom of it yet. Next time there
will not be a problem if you get your arses in gear and subscribe to the
food option on site. Having a meal makes getting extensions much easier.


1.  Clapham 1 (cup)
2.  Clapham 2
3.  Chevron
4.  LeedsLeedsLeeds
5.  Fusion 1
6.  Team Shark
7.  Druids
8.  Red
9.  Whey
10. Smash N Grab
11. Hammerage
12. Un Poco Loco

13. BAF open (Plate )
14. Headrush (Spirit of the Game)
15. BAF Mixed
16. Nightfever
17. Bliss
18. Fusion 2
19. Strange Blue
20. Slipdisc

21. Jedi (Spoon)
22. GB Juniors
23. Flyght Club
24. Hustlers
25. Bears
26. Northern Roses
27. Janitors
28. Trigger Happy

Loads of lost property -  a car load.
If you have lost something that is very valuable. please contact me, i
might be able calm your nerves. (someone out there will understand what I
mean)


We loved the experience of working together as a family so we'll be back
next year with a 32 team tourny.

Hope you enjoyed being our guests.



Stig


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so is anyone out there organising a masters team?

Ed - Lurkers

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"Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" <punwin@grantham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Tour 2 was held in Banbury this weekend 12/13 May hosted
> by "the family Stig"

and

> We loved the experience of working together as a family
> so we'll be back next year with a 32 team tourny.
> 
> Hope you enjoyed being our guests.
> 
> Stig

Good work, Stig and family,

I don't think you'll get many complaints, but I know you'll do your best to sort any out before next time.

I look forward to next time.

Wayne Retter

PS: Observation to the schedule-meister: Surely games should NEVER get shorter as the tournament progresses from one stage to the next? Teams in the top 8 that didn't progress to semis experienced a drop in the game length from 1hr45 to 1hr ! Surely it'd be better to start all teams at the 1hr15 (ish) and then add time to the higher games?
-- 
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Hi

Northern Lights are holding the second annual Durham
Hat tournament - and you're all invited! The festival
of frisbee will be taking place over the 16/17th June,
and will include a full two days of ultimate, a range
of prizes (winners trophy, spoon, 3 pint challenge,
sharking, etc), a party to rival last year's (even the
UV breasts!), and a late start time on the Sunday (due
to above!).

The cost will be £5 per person, which will include
free fresh fruit all weekend. Snacks and sandwiches
will be available at a small cost (around 50p - what
do you think this is, the tour?!).

As it is a hat tournament, the teams will be mixed
ability and gender so all standards are welcome. If
you know of anyone who may be interested but who is
not on Britdisc, please forward this invitation to
them. To enter, or for more information, please reply
to this email or contact:
         tournament@dufdisc.co.uk

We are expecting a spectacular tounament, and we hope
to see you there!

Kos

Northern Lights - www.dufdisc.co.uk

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  To anyone who has lived in colchester etc.
Their is a long history of ultimate players who orginate from colchester I 
was thinking it would be cool to make up a colchester team for a forthcoming 
tournament Rumour2001 possibly?
anyone interested
at the moment;

matt cutler, mohawks
ed higbee, mohawks
dylan radclyffe, mohawks
sam higbee
nick marfleet, fish
voodoo, smash+grab
anyone else?
johnny wilmott?

email me back if you are interested or forward it to anyone you know from 
colchester or send me any contact details
cheers matt

Matt 'juan' Cutler
Mohawks Club Secretary
25 DeMontford Road.
Brighton
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Does anybody know when Open Nationals is going to be this year?

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26 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - CAMBRIDGE CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Cambridge - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Mixed Series Event



http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate


Robert Hadfield

20 Victoria Street, Cambridge, , , CB1 1JP

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Work Phone: 01223 334375

Fax: 01223 334373

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Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


CO-ED TOUR
16 TEAMS
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A SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT , HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

Work Phone: N/A

Mobile: N/A

____________________________________________________________


09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE

Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf]


4th leg bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - THE STRAWBERRY GARDENS OPEN

Location: Strawberry Gardens - [Outdoor Ultimate, Freestyle]


Starts at 10am on Saturday, entrants must have their own frisbee. Entry fee £2. Strawberry Gardens is situated on Offerton Lane, Offerton, Stockport, Manchester.


http://www.strawberrygardens.co.uk


Julia Blinnston

206 Dialstone Lane, Great Moor, Stockport, , 

Main Email: helen@pissup.co.uk

Alternative Email: nick@lineone.net

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - DURHAM HAT 2001

Location: North East - [Outdoor Ultimate]


http://www.dufdisc.co.uk


Kosovo

53 The Avenue, Durham, DH1 4EB, , 

Main Email: tournament@dufdisc.co.uk

Alternative Email: jbrooks2000@yahoo.com

Mobile: 07866723750

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001

Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details


Ian Cuddihy

1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , 

Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com

Home Phone: +3535652871

Mobile: +447957667837

____________________________________________________________


23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Held at Southampton University sports grounds.  Camping, food and evening entertainment on site.  


Kevin Blanch

6 Bevois Hill, Portswood, Southampton, Hampshire, SO17 0SJ

Main Email: kpb298@soton.ac.uk

Alternative Email: herrumph@yahoo.co.uk

Home Phone: 02380 483078

Mobile: 07974 659206

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN

Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf]


5th leg bdga tour 2001
also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour.  


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - EXETER HAT

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Robert Daniels

Moberly House, , Duryard Halls, Lower Argyll Road, Exeter, EX4 4QT

Main Email: R.M.Daniels@exeter.ac.uk

Alternative Email: Randomist@hotmail.com

Mobile: 07733152313

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT - EDINBURGH

Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate]







Simon Salt

Main Email: simon.salt@company-net.com

____________________________________________________________


06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC

Location: london - [Disc Golf]


leg 6  of the bdga 2001 tour.
event and venue to be confirmed


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com 

____________________________________________________________


07 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - RUMOUR 2001

Location: Chipping Norton 20 Miles north of Oxford - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Check out the web site muppet

http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html


Jon Copeland

47 Radley Road, Abingdon, Oxon, , 

Main Email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: Jon.Cpeland@bookham.com

Home Phone: 07899 996686

Work Phone: 01235 827295

____________________________________________________________


08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate]





http://eucc.frisbee.cz


TBC

Main Email: TBC

____________________________________________________________


14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Details to be announced nearer the time


Clifford Bottomley

11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF

Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com

Home Phone: 0208-542-4966

Work Phone: 01932-861461

Mobile: 0777-5917169

Fax: 01932-576033

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN

Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick  - [Disc Golf]


7th bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4

Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


18 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam Rey

Main Email: samanir@breathe.com

____________________________________________________________


25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN

Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf]


leg 8 bdga tour 2001
date and venue tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


01 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED NATIONALS (TBC)

Location: Portsmouth - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Simon Weeks

Main Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

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Location: Cambridge - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Mixed Series Event



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Robert Hadfield

20 Victoria Street, Cambridge, , , CB1 1JP

Main Email: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk

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Work Phone: 01223 334375

Fax: 01223 334373

____________________________________________________________


09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HONG KONG SEVENS - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


CO-ED TOUR
16 TEAMS
ACCOMODATION AVAILABLE ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS





A SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT , HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

Work Phone: N/A

Mobile: N/A

____________________________________________________________


09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE

Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf]


4th leg bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - THE STRAWBERRY GARDENS OPEN

Location: Strawberry Gardens - [Outdoor Ultimate, Freestyle]


Starts at 10am on Saturday, entrants must have their own frisbee. Entry fee £2. Strawberry Gardens is situated on Offerton Lane, Offerton, Stockport, Manchester.


http://www.strawberrygardens.co.uk


Julia Blinnston

206 Dialstone Lane, Great Moor, Stockport, , 

Main Email: helen@pissup.co.uk

Alternative Email: nick@lineone.net

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - DURHAM HAT 2001

Location: North East - [Outdoor Ultimate]


http://www.dufdisc.co.uk


Kosovo

53 The Avenue, Durham, DH1 4EB, , 

Main Email: tournament@dufdisc.co.uk

Alternative Email: jbrooks2000@yahoo.com

Mobile: 07866723750

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001

Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details


Ian Cuddihy

1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , 

Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com

Home Phone: +3535652871

Mobile: +447957667837

____________________________________________________________


23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Held at Southampton University sports grounds.  Camping, food and evening entertainment on site.  


Kevin Blanch

6 Bevois Hill, Portswood, Southampton, Hampshire, SO17 0SJ

Main Email: kpb298@soton.ac.uk

Alternative Email: herrumph@yahoo.co.uk

Home Phone: 02380 483078

Mobile: 07974 659206

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN

Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf]


5th leg bdga tour 2001
also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour.  


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - EXETER HAT

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Robert Daniels

Moberly House, , Duryard Halls, Lower Argyll Road, Exeter, EX4 4QT

Main Email: R.M.Daniels@exeter.ac.uk

Alternative Email: Randomist@hotmail.com

Mobile: 07733152313

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT - EDINBURGH

Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate]







Simon Salt

Main Email: simon.salt@company-net.com

____________________________________________________________


06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC

Location: london - [Disc Golf]


leg 6  of the bdga 2001 tour.
event and venue to be confirmed


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com 

____________________________________________________________


07 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - RUMOUR 2001

Location: Chipping Norton 20 Miles north of Oxford - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Check out the web site muppet

http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html


Jon Copeland

47 Radley Road, Abingdon, Oxon, , 

Main Email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: Jon.Cpeland@bookham.com

Home Phone: 07899 996686

Work Phone: 01235 827295

____________________________________________________________


08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate]





http://eucc.frisbee.cz


TBC

Main Email: TBC

____________________________________________________________


14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Details to be announced nearer the time


Clifford Bottomley

11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF

Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com

Home Phone: 0208-542-4966

Work Phone: 01932-861461

Mobile: 0777-5917169

Fax: 01932-576033

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN

Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick  - [Disc Golf]


7th bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4

Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


18 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam Rey

Main Email: samanir@breathe.com

____________________________________________________________


25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN

Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf]


leg 8 bdga tour 2001
date and venue tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


01 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED NATIONALS (TBC)

Location: Portsmouth - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Simon Weeks

Main Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________




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26 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - CAMBRIDGE CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Cambridge - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Mixed Series Event



http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate


Robert Hadfield

20 Victoria Street, Cambridge, , , CB1 1JP

Main Email: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01223 704254

Work Phone: 01223 334375

Fax: 01223 334373

____________________________________________________________


09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HONG KONG SEVENS - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


CO-ED TOUR
16 TEAMS
ACCOMODATION AVAILABLE ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS





A SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT , HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

Work Phone: N/A

Mobile: N/A

____________________________________________________________


09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE

Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf]


4th leg bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - THE STRAWBERRY GARDENS OPEN

Location: Strawberry Gardens - [Outdoor Ultimate, Freestyle]


Starts at 10am on Saturday, entrants must have their own frisbee. Entry fee £2. Strawberry Gardens is situated on Offerton Lane, Offerton, Stockport, Manchester.


http://www.strawberrygardens.co.uk


Julia Blinnston

206 Dialstone Lane, Great Moor, Stockport, , 

Main Email: helen@pissup.co.uk

Alternative Email: nick@lineone.net

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - DURHAM HAT 2001

Location: North East - [Outdoor Ultimate]


http://www.dufdisc.co.uk


Kosovo

53 The Avenue, Durham, DH1 4EB, , 

Main Email: tournament@dufdisc.co.uk

Alternative Email: jbrooks2000@yahoo.com

Mobile: 07866723750

____________________________________________________________


16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001

Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details


Ian Cuddihy

1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , 

Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com

Home Phone: +3535652871

Mobile: +447957667837

____________________________________________________________


23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Held at Southampton University sports grounds.  Camping, food and evening entertainment on site.  


Kevin Blanch

6 Bevois Hill, Portswood, Southampton, Hampshire, SO17 0SJ

Main Email: kpb298@soton.ac.uk

Alternative Email: herrumph@yahoo.co.uk

Home Phone: 02380 483078

Mobile: 07974 659206

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN

Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf]


5th leg bdga tour 2001
also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour.  


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - EXETER HAT

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Robert Daniels

Moberly House, , Duryard Halls, Lower Argyll Road, Exeter, EX4 4QT

Main Email: R.M.Daniels@exeter.ac.uk

Alternative Email: Randomist@hotmail.com

Mobile: 07733152313

____________________________________________________________


30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT - EDINBURGH

Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate]







Simon Salt

Main Email: simon.salt@company-net.com

____________________________________________________________


06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC

Location: london - [Disc Golf]


leg 6  of the bdga 2001 tour.
event and venue to be confirmed


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com 

____________________________________________________________


07 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - RUMOUR 2001

Location: Chipping Norton 20 Miles north of Oxford - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Check out the web site muppet

http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html


Jon Copeland

47 Radley Road, Abingdon, Oxon, , 

Main Email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: Jon.Cpeland@bookham.com

Home Phone: 07899 996686

Work Phone: 01235 827295

____________________________________________________________


08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate]





http://eucc.frisbee.cz


TBC

Main Email: TBC

____________________________________________________________


14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Details to be announced nearer the time


Clifford Bottomley

11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF

Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com

Home Phone: 0208-542-4966

Work Phone: 01932-861461

Mobile: 0777-5917169

Fax: 01932-576033

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN

Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick  - [Disc Golf]


7th bdga tour 2001


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4

Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

____________________________________________________________


18 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM CO-ED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam Rey

Main Email: samanir@breathe.com

____________________________________________________________


25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN

Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf]


leg 8 bdga tour 2001
date and venue tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


01 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED NATIONALS (TBC)

Location: Portsmouth - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Simon Weeks

Main Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________




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Are there any Ultimate players in Hertfordshire or at Herts Uni who would
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all

I have had excellent feedback from the venue, so well done. Looks like we're
on for next year.

thanks everybody

stig
 ----------
From: Joan
To: Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)
Subject: Re: weekend
Date: 16 May 2001 09:37

Hi Paul

I feel that the weekend was a success, the weather certainly helped, shame
about the Bar-B-Que, in hind sight this is definitely a yes for next year.
A late licence is more likely to be granted if a meal is being provided.

It was such an unknown quantity this year but from our perspective the
people who attended were a super bunch, well behaved and a pleasure to look
after.  I hope that they feel they would like to come back again.

I would be delighted to see you at any time when you are down.  I am on
holidays from 2nd June until 19th June.

After spending time watching the games on Sunday I think I have gained a
little knowledge into how the game is played and it certainly was
entertaining.

I look forward to seeing you soon.  Give my regards to Jim.

Regards

Joan
Bodicote Park

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Stig,

I hope I speak for all who attended. I'd like to say a big thank you for a
really good venue, even the showers!

Thanks for all the hard work in getting it organised. Definitely worth it
from the players point of view.

Cheers
Max
Fever

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all

I have had excellent feedback from the venue, so well done. Looks like we're
on for next year.

thanks everybody

stig
 ----------
From: Joan
To: Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)
Subject: Re: weekend
Date: 16 May 2001 09:37

Hi Paul

I feel that the weekend was a success, the weather certainly helped, shame
about the Bar-B-Que, in hind sight this is definitely a yes for next year.
A late licence is more likely to be granted if a meal is being provided.

It was such an unknown quantity this year but from our perspective the
people who attended were a super bunch, well behaved and a pleasure to look
after.  I hope that they feel they would like to come back again.

I would be delighted to see you at any time when you are down.  I am on
holidays from 2nd June until 19th June.

After spending time watching the games on Sunday I think I have gained a
little knowledge into how the game is played and it certainly was
entertaining.

I look forward to seeing you soon.  Give my regards to Jim.

Regards

Joan
Bodicote Park

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BUF Mixed Ultimate Series 2001


Purpose and Goals

1.   To encourage the growth of the Ultimate player base.
The points system used to rank teams for the National Finals awards a single
point for
each player newly recruited to tournament level Ultimate.  Continued growth
of the player base is necessary for the award of government funding and
inclusion in international sport festivals, such as the World games.

2.  To encourage the play of mixed Ultimate.
The Ultim8Tour system has a drawback in discouraging mixed play by pitting
mixed teams against open teams. By offering explicitly mixed events, teams
and players who wish to play in the mixed format can do so on a level
playing field, competing against other mixed teams.

3.  To provide a mixed tournament circuit and a structure for Mixed
Nationals.
It can be difficult and a financial risk for individuals or teams to
organize a tournament without BUF sanction or support.  By creating an
'official' series, more teams will organize tournaments (outside of the
Ultim8 Tour) due to reduced risk of low attendance and financial loss.

4.  To provide a larger player base for the selection of a national mixed
squad.
Mixed Ultimate has strategies and playing styles specific to the game.  By
encouraging more players to play Mixed more often, national selectors will
have a greater range of players from which to choose, many with advanced
skills specific to the Mixed game.

The Mixed Series, Mixed Nationals, and Nationals Qualifying Points

For this year, the Mixed Nationals Results will be used to determine the
order in which invitations to the World Club Championships, to be held in
Hawaii in 2002, will be issued.  Invitations will be passed down the order
of finish until all slots are filled.

For the Mixed Series, games will be played by WFDF rules.  This means that
there is a 4/3 gender split on the pitch, with the team going on offence
(the team receiving the pull) deciding whether it will be 4 men or 4 women
on the pitch.  The defensive team must match their gender split to that of
the offensive team.  For each Mixed Series Event, teams must be ready to
play on Saturday morning with at least 4 players of each gender, no
exceptions.  Teams not meeting this requirement will not receive any
Nationals qualification points.  For Nationals, teams must have at least 4
players of each gender who can play throughout the entire tournament.
Failure to do so will result in disqualification.

The Mixed Series will consist of three or four two-day national events.  All
events will have an 'open' format, meaning that any team entering can win
the event.  (This is a change from the Ultim8 Tour, where previous
performance can prevent a team from winning an event.)  All events will be
publicised on Britdisc and using other means as available.  All events will
be open to any rostered mixed team (subject, as always, to the tournament
director's discretion).  Rosters will be collected at all Mixed Series
Events; rostering rules are detailed below.

Each event will contribute to qualification for Mixed Nationals.  In a
manner similar to the Ultim8 Tour, points will be acquired at each event.
To qualify for Mixed Nationals, a team must have a minimum of 20 points, ten
of which must have been earned by playing in a Mixed Series Event.  (Ways of
earning points are further detailed below.)  Unlike the Ultim8 Tour, a team
earns 10 points by simply attending a Mixed Series Event.  Many teams will
acquire the all the points needed for Nationals qualification at a single
Event.  Points will be awarded in the following manner:
                    1st place:  60 points
6th            :  24 points
                    2nd           :  50 points
7th            :  20 points
                    3rd            :  42 points
8th            :  17 points
                    4th            :  35 points
9th            :  15 points
                    5th place:  29 points
10th          :  14 points
                                                   all other teams:  10
points
Seedings for Mixed Nationals will be based on points acquired over the Mixed
Series.  If it becomes necessary to exclude teams from the Mixed Nationals
due to over-subscription, teams with the lowest point totals will be
excluded.  (Based upon the 2000 season, this should not be necessary.)  It
is important to note that this points system is different from that of the
Ultim8 system in several ways.  There is significantly less pressure to
attend every event- missing an event will not affect your seeding at the
next event.  Also, many teams will earn ample points for entry into the
Mixed Nationals and a reasonable seeding for that event by attending one or
two Mixed Series Events.

Rostering new players can earn additional Nationals qualification points.
One point is earned for each new player rostered to lay in any Mixed Series
event.  A new player is defined as a players that has never played an Ultim8
Tour event, a student event, a women's event, a mixed event, or any other
British or foreign tournament.  Hat tournaments are excluded from this
definition.  Spirit of the Game extends to honesty about team rosters and
new players.  Spirit of the game also extends to other teams being
responsible for reporting infractions; no one gains from letting
misrepresentations pass unnoticed.  Teams found abusing the new player
points system will lose and illegally gained points and be 'fined' an
additional 50 points per offence.

Rosters and Players

Each team must submit a roster for each Mixed Series event.

A player may only be rostered for one team during a Mixed Series Event, but
unlike the Ultim8 Tour, there is no limit on changing teams during the
season.  A player can play for a different team at each Event if he/she
wishes.  The only limitation on changing rosters comes into effect for Mixed
Nationals.  For a player to play for a team at Mixed Nationals, he/she must
have PLAYED for that team at one of the previous Mixed Nationals Events.
Spirit of the Game extends to this requirement.  Teams found playing
ineligible players at Nationals will be disqualified.  Spirit of the game
also extends to other teams being responsible for reporting infractions; no
one gains from letting misrepresentations pass unnoticed.

Given that the Mixed Nationals results will be used as selection criteria
for World Clubs, a team qualifying for World Clubs must send a team to
Hawaii that includes AT LEAST 7 of the players who played in the Mixed
Nationals to earn that qualification.


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The Mixed Series starts officially in just under two weeks!  Confirmed =
dates are as follows:

May 26-27        Cambridge
June 9-10          Leeds
June 30- July 1      Edinburgh
August 18-19     Nottingham

One more date is in the works, as is Nationals.  See the BUF events =
reminder for details.

The rules are much the same as last year, and can be found in a seperate =
post so you don;t have to trawl through them if you don't want to.


BUT this is your official warning so PAY ATTENTION:

Nationals will be used to select teams going to Worlds next summer.  As =
such, there will be NO roster exceptions this year.  This means that you =
show up with at least 4 women (or men if that's your particular =
recruiting problem) ready to play on Saturday morning or you get no =
nationals qualifying points.  NO  EXCEPTIONS.  This is not a new rule, =
you've always needed at least four women to play.  And it's still pretty =
lenient- if you lose players to injury through the course of the day, =
you won't be disqualified, you'll just have to play short-handed.

On a related note- you need to have enough players to play all the way =
through Nationals, even if injury occurs.  I'd say that means you need =
AT LEAST 5 players of each gender. =20


Moan if you like, but that's the way it has to be this year to be fair.

Nancy Stebbing

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Nottingham</FONT></DIV>
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Hello,
At present we have 13 teams entered for the tournament, which is a
slightly inauspicious number (not least for scheduling purposes) - if
you're intending to enter please send that cheque off right away (in
particular, in spite of alot of initial interest, we haven't received
any money yet from any Nottingham teams)..

The cost is 100 pounds (12 pounds of which is BUF tax).
Please send cheques made out to 'Cambridge University Ultimate Frisbee
Club' to
Dora Kemp
12a Amwell Road
Cambridge
CB4 4UH
The deadline is this friday! (we can take 16 teams maximum)

Currently entered are:
1. Mud Culture *
2. KUPA
3. BAF Prague *
4. BAF others *
5. Red
6. Angels
7. Randy *
8. Chevron
9. Cyrille *
10. Little Shef *
11. Strange Blue 1
12. Strange Blue 2
13. Sneekys (cheque in the post) *

* teams which have requested floorspace/camping in back gardens.
Priority goes to teams which have to come furthest/are mainly comprised of
students (i.e. Mud, Sneekys, Little Shef). These teams please let me know
how many players you are bringing.  I'll see what I can do for the
rest of you, but please be prepared to consider other options..

Accommodation details:

B&Bs
http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/wheretostay/
http://www.adhoc.co.uk/cambridge/tnt/wheretostay/
http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/leisure/acc00.htm

Campsites:
Camping and Caravanning Club, 19 Cabbage Moor, Great Shelford, Cambridge
Tel: 01223 841 185
Rosebury Touring Park, Willingham nr Cambridge Tel: 01954 260 346

Youth Hostel:
97 Tenison Road, Cambridge, Tel: 01223 354601, Fax: 01223 312 780

Rostering:
Could each team please E-mail me a list of players with addresses and
phone numbers as soon as possible.
On the Saturday morning each team requires four women players otherwise
you will get no qualification points for the coed tour.

Captains Meeting
The captains meeting will be held at the pitches at 9-30am on the Saturday
morning.

Further details:
See the tournament website:
http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam1/

See you all in Cambridge.

Rob Hadfield
President
Strange Blue Cambridge Ultimate

===============
Robert Hadfield
Department of Materials Science
University of Cambridge, U.K.
Pembroke Street
Cambridge
CB2 3QZ
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 1223 334375
Fax: +44 1223 334374
E-mail: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk



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Lifts to and from Oxford a real possibility if you're sharp.

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The first meeting at Kingston Bagpuize scheduled for 7pm this evening =
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hello all-

two very urgent things.

First off, Strange Blue are entering a team for the European Ultimate Club Championships in Prague this July in the mixed division.

We currently have 6 female players, the minimum we set ourselves to enter the team, but we would like to have two to three more. We're looking for women with at least 2 or 3 years experience and ideally who have played in major international tournaments before.

If you're interested please get in touch with me *asap*, giving me a brief idea of your 'ultimate CV', as we're very very close to the deadline for rostering (ie: we need to know within the next couple days). We would also need you to be available with Strange Blue 1 for some of the coed tour events this summer (ideally for CoedCam on the 26th May...).

Secondly, we're trying to enter two Strange Blue teams for the mixed series. we're almost there but need a couple extra women to fill up some SB2 spaces. anyone who can't make prague but still looking for a coed team this summer please let me know...

Talk to me soon!

thanks-
olivier

ps i'm not on britdisc, so please email me direct (ojco@bas.ac.uk) 


_______________________
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hi,
i'm sure this has been asked a million times, but where is the best place to
get an official size disc? apparently there is a shop in camden, but is
there anywhere else,closer to putney if possible?

thanx
scott

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There are several Phat 'Eds looking to pick up for the remainder of 
the tour now that the years academic work is almost behind them. If 
there are any teams out there low on numbers who want/need a few 
additional members with experience ranging from 1-4 years please 
get in touch.
At present we have 5 players that definitely want to play. At least 
two of which are female (or so they say) who would be more than 
happy to play in the women's series should there be a team(s) 
needing additional  members.

Cheers

Tony

Please reply to this address or my uni account:

mtp00wah@sheffield.ac.uk



Visit our website at www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate

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Calling all former, current, (and future) WARWICK BEARS ...

You may already have heard about the plans for an Old Bears event to
celebrate our 25th Anniversary - many thanks to all those that have taken
the trouble to reply (either using the paper form or via e-mail). Apologies
if you have received this more than once, but we want to avoid missing
people out!

Most of the details have been sorted out for the event on 27/28 October
2001 and the 'bulk' mailing will happen any day soon. A clear advantage to
being on-line is that you can access the latest news ASAP ... so here is
the MOST IMPORTANT LETTER:

	http://www.warwick.ac.uk/staff/D.P.Neilson/bears25/letter4.pdf

[NB The above should link you to a 'pdf' format letter for which you will
need access to a web browser (e.g. Netscape or Internet Explorer) together
with a PDF Reader (e.g. Acrobat Reader) - PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU CANNOT
READ IT!]

To save the delay and costs of paper post, we would like to contact as many
people electronically as possible - PLEASE reply (yes / no / don't know)
BEFORE 21 MAY, otherwise we will attempt to contact you by paper post -
thanks!

It is more than likely that I have some out-of-date e-mail addresses etc.,
so I would be grateful if you could drop me a line to confirm that you have
received this note ... ideally, you could also confirm that you have
already put your cheque in the post to reserve your places at the meal!

This information has already been e-mailed direct to about SIXTY (UK-based)
Old Bears ... I'm sure that there are many others to be added to this
on-line band - so if you have any current e-mail addresses for ex-Bears,
please let us know!

STOP PRESS: A separate mailing has already gone to about TEN people based
outside the UK and most of them are keen to make the big trip for this most
important event! Our records so far show that there are Old Bears based in
Australia, USA, Austria, France, Norway and Belgium ... if you can extend
this list, let us know!

Looking forward to seeing you all in October ...

Sammy

Sam Neilson
20 Alexandra Court
Priory Road
Kenilworth CV8 1SB
England

Home: 01926 864 276
Home: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk
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Work: d.p.neilson@warwick.ac.uk


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From: 	LShawcross@aol.com[SMTP:LShawcross@aol.com]
Sent: 	20 May 2001 12:37
To: 	cjhughes@talk21.com
Subject: 	Strawberry Gardens Open

 
We advertised a frisbee competition on this webpage for the Strawberry 
Gardens Open in June.  Sadly, this competition has had to be cancelled due to 
the ill health of the present owner.  I am unsure of how to let everyone know 
of this cancellation, and would like to let people know so they don't turn up 
on the day.

Please contact me    helen@pissup.co.uk

Thanks


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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>We advertised a frisbee competition on this webpage for the Strawberry 
<BR>Gardens Open in June. &nbsp;Sadly, this competition has had to be cancelled due to 
<BR>the ill health of the present owner. &nbsp;I am unsure of how to let everyone know 
<BR>of this cancellation, and would like to let people know so they don't turn up 
<BR>on the day.
<BR>
<BR>Please contact me &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;helen@pissup.co.uk
<BR>
<BR>Thanks</FONT></HTML>

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>Please contact me    helen@pissup.co.uk

seriously... ?


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I heard the rumour today (Sunday) so checked out:

http://www.wfdf.org/2001ultirulesrev.htm

>402 Field of Play 
>402.01 Dimensions: The field of play consists of a 64 by 37 m rectangle
>called the playing field, with an 18 m by 37 m rectangle called an
>endzone aligned along each of the 37 m sides. See figure 4.1. 

It's not just the conversion from Imperial to Metric, the pitch is now
smaller - the endzones are shallower.

There are some other changes/clarifications, too.


Wayne

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	anyone tried placing any orders with Discraft recently?

	their site www.discraft.com appears to be dead at the moment

	Paul


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Call Windthings.co.uk, they got my Discraft order for 500 ultrastars no
problem.

0131 622 7032

Bes*
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Paul Meaney wrote:

>         anyone tried placing any orders with Discraft recently?
>
>         their site www.discraft.com appears to be dead at the moment
>
>         Paul

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>	anyone tried placing any orders with Discraft recently?
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>	their site www.discraft.com appears to be dead at the moment
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The Sun is high and that means RumouR time.

Are you ready to let the juices flow?  Bring on the disc, sun and tequila -

The Place:

Chipping Norton Rugby Club

The Time:

July 07/08 2001

The Stuff:

SUNRISE
English Breakfast (Sun only)
Music
Ultimate

SUNSET
Hacky Volley
Tequila
The Meal

NIGHT - all the moves
Music
Dancing
Drinking

The Player cost:

£10 Cash or cheque on the day

The Team cost:

£80 Cheque posted to address below, payable to TeamShark

The Number of Teams:

16 Lucky Ones

Jon

TeamShark
47 Radley Road
Abingdon
Oxon
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Some final remarks before the weekend:

Teams entered (13):
Mud Culture, KUPA, BAF Prague, BAF others, Red, Angels, Randy,
Chevron, Cyrille, Little Shef, SB1, SB2, Sneeekys

Accommodation:
As I mentioned in last week's mail, we are unfortunately unable to provide
free accommodation for everyone who requested it.  The lucky ones are: Mud,
Sneeekys, Little Shef + some of Red.  I hope that everyone else is making
their own arrangements.

Party on saturday night - FREE!
Venue - Bar Moosh by the rail station. Tickets and directions will be
provided a the captains meeting.

Useful contact numbers:
Robert Hadfield:  Work: 01223 334375, Home: 01223 704254
Dora Kemp: mobile: 07890 355805, Home: 01223 709469

Directions:
See the excellent hand-drawn map at the tournament website:
http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam1

Early arrivals:
If you arrive on friday evening before dusk there will be a throw around
on Parker's Piece (in the centre of Cambridge - see map).  Thereafter we
will be in the adjacent Hogshead Pub.

Captains Meeting:
Saturday 9-30am at the pitches.

See you there!

Rob Hadfield
Pres. Strange Blue

===============
Robert Hadfield
Department of Materials Sciences
University of Cambridge, U.K.
Pembroke Street
Cambridge
CB2 3QZ
Tel: +44 1223 334375
Fax: +44 1223 334373
E-mail: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk



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One further thing:
Please could all the teams send me a prelimary roster a.s.a.p. as this
will be invaluable in assigning sensible seedings.
I currently only have details from Randy, Red, Little Shef and Mud
Culture.
Thanks,
Rob Hadfield


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From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" <punwin@grantham.ac.uk>
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I have the following lost property from Tours 1 and 2.

I shall not be at Cambridge so will deal with it all at Tour 3 Southampton.
After Southampton, it will go to Oxfam.

FLEECE XL filedware, green
HAT nike knitted black
SMOCK TOP, Cross, Large (owner found)
T SHIRT, Reebok, womens v neck
FLEECE Warwick Uni, Ed?, Large
KNEE BRACE LP medium Patella support
GLOVES Furry C&A
GLOVES leather
SHIRT Gaia beige
SHIRT Quicksilver black
TRACKY BOTTOMS champion poppers blue/yellow
WATERPROOF TROUSERS Tension Black (owner found)
FLEECE Grizzly Medium
T SHIRT Grey Motto
TRACKY BOTTOMS. Donnay, Small DkBlue
TRACKY BOTTOMS Adidas large Lt Blue
FLEECE. Gap smock style Grey
SHIRT (4you) black
T SHIRT mustard turbine medium
SUNGLASSES stone 500 scratched in Alpina Case
SUNGLASSES Guess in metal case
WATCH Casio
PENKNIFE Swiss Army

RUNNERS Sz 8 Reebok White Grey and red
BOOTS Reebok Pitbulls 10.5 (with blue socks!)
BOOTS Umbro footies Fusion SI Sz 8 Studs missing
BOOTS Mizuno for Rugger 9.5 yellow flashes
BOOTS Nike Tiempo knackered laces

Adidas water bottle
Mrs Bolstridge


Stig

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Did anyone pick up a fleece that didn't belong to them at Tour 2?

I managed to lose a blue reebok fleece, a purple WUCC 99 fleece and a 
9feet.com beige fleece.

Yes I know it was hot and sunny at Tour 2, and yes I did manage to lose 3 
fleeces.

Cheers,

Dave.
Chevron.

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To all GB Jr's

I will be driving back to Norfolk Via Bristol, Birimingham, Cambridge from
Exeter after the hat and may be able to fit one person in if anyone has a
problem getting back home in those areas.

Rob Daniels
Exeter University
Uriel-Tournament Organiser
EUSAC-Boat Officer
Tel-07733152313

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I have had a few people asking me if their cheques had 
arrived, so heres a list of the teams whose entries are 
confirmed:

1.  TeamShark
2.  Strange Blue
3.  Slipdisc
4.  Leicester Hustlers
5.  BAF Open
6.  BAF Mixed
7.  Red
8.  Headrush
9.  Whey!
10. Mohawk Mwnci Magic
11. Fusion 1
12. Fusion 2
13. Fluid Druids
14. Fever
15. Jedi Children
16. LeedsLeedsLeeds
17. Flyght Club
18. Sublime
19. GB Juniors
20. Smash'n'Grab
21. Craic
22. Skunks 1
23. Skunks 2

There are 10 spaces left.
Cheers
	Kevin

----------------------
Kev.B
kpb298@soton.ac.uk

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Subject: pick up for Cambride
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Hi,

Is anyone looking for a female pick up for Cambridge Co-Ed. I know it's a
bit last minute but I just finished my exams and therefore would love to
play. So if anyones interested let me know.

Tanya
(Bears)

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To all teams playing Co-ed or Mixed this season:


Please respect your opponents and show up with enough players.  That =
means a MINIMUM of 4 women and 4 men. =20

Teams who cannot field a 4/3 gender split for the tournament will not =
get any qualification points for Nationals.  (Injuries are an exception- =
if your 4th women/man gets hurt playing, you won't be penalized.)

PLUS- we have two teams trying to prepare for Europeans, so help them =
out and get enough players for them to play against.

Thanks,

nancy

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To all teams playing Co-ed or Mixed =
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I have just noticed that on the 'BUF events reminder' mail, 
I have included the incorrect post code.  It should be 
SO14 0SJ  NOT  SO17 0SJ.  Luckily the postal service down 
here is on the ball because I have already received a 
cheque with the incorrect code on it.

I apologise for the mistake.

Cheers
	Kev

I have had a few people asking me if their cheques had 
arrived, so heres a list of the teams whose entries are 
confirmed:

1.  TeamShark
2.  Strange Blue
3.  Slipdisc
4.  Leicester Hustlers
5.  BAF Open
6.  BAF Mixed
7.  Red
8.  Headrush
9.  Whey!
10. Mohawk Mwnci Magic
11. Fusion 1
12. Fusion 2
13. Fluid Druids
14. Fever
15. Jedi Children
16. LeedsLeedsLeeds
17. Flyght Club
18. Sublime
19. GB Juniors
20. Smash'n'Grab
21. Craic
22. Skunks 1
23. Skunks 2

There are 10 spaces left.
Cheers
	Kevin

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> Mixed series Event in Edinburgh - details as follows:-
> 
> Venue - Jack Kane Centre, Edinburgh.
> Date - 30 June - 1 July
> Fee - £110.00 per team
> 
> Not forgetting big party on Saturday night.
> 
> Meet on Friday night from 8pm at the Crags Bar see for map
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=EH165AD&Z=1
> 
> Tournament Venue map is at 
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=EH164NB&Z=1
> 
> Party Venue map 
> <http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=EH11JS&Z=1>
> 
> Please confirm team names, number of players, requests for accommodation.
> First come first booked. Cheques made payable to Simon Salt.
> 
> Accommodation
> Unfortunately there is no camping available on-site.  Edinburgh has a
> plentiful supply of Hotels, B&Bs and Guest Houses, a full list is
> available from the Edinburgh and Lothians Tourist Board:
> Edinburgh and Lothians Tourist Board
> 3 Princes Street
> Edinburgh
> EH2 2QP
> Tel: 0131 473 3800
> Fax: 0131 473 3881
> Web: www.edinburgh.org <http://www.edinburgh.org>
> .
> We recommend that you stay near the city centre rather than near the
> venue. There will be a greater choice of accommodation and restaurants.
> The venue is situated among housing estates, with few amenities nearby.
> Sneeeky's  players will attempt to accommodate as many players as possible
> on their floors. Obviously space will be limited and priority will be
> given to the more deserving teams.
> Transport
> Arriving by Train or Bus. Waverley train station and St Andrew's Square
> bus station are located close to each other right in the centre of
> Edinburgh.
> Arriving by Road. The best route to use if travelling from the south is
> the M6 and A74. Turn off the A74(M) at junction 13 and follow the A702
> through Biggar to Edinburgh. If travelling along the east coast follow the
> A1 all the way to Edinburgh or use the A697/A68. Please note that these
> latter routes consist of many miles of single carriageway roads.
> Arriving by Air. Edinburgh Airport is located to the west of the city. A
> regular bus service runs to Waverley Bridge (near the train station) and
> costs approximately £3 (£5 return). A taxi to the city centre will cost
> about £14.
> Directions
> The pitches are at the Jack Kane Centre, Niddrie. This is on the east side
> of the city.
> Approaching the city from the A1:
> Leave the A1 at the Newcraighall/Niddrie(A6085/A6095) exit and turn left
> towards Niddrie. Kinnaird Park Shopping Centre is at this junction, it has
> a Mega Bowl and UCI. Go straight ahead at the crossroads with The Wisp and
> Duddingston Park South. The Jack Kane Centre is then signposted on your
> left.
> From the city centre:
> North Bridge is the bridge at the east end of Princes Street, over the
> railway station. Get on this and head south for about a mile and a half.
> Pass the Odeon Cinema on your right and go straight over the next set of
> lights. At the following set of lights turn left onto East Preston Street,
> the Wine Glass pub is on the corner. Go to the end of this road and turn
> right onto Dalkeith Road. The pub we are meeting at on Friday night is the
> Crags Bar and is on your right. Head down the hill until you get to a
> large funny-shaped roundabout. Take the first left, which should be
> Peffermill Road. Follow this road for 2/3 miles and you will find the Jack
> Kane Centre signposted on your right. If you get to the A1 then you've
> gone too far (see above).
> 
> Contact Details
> 
> For more info and to post cheques:
> 
> Simon Salt
> 173 Lenzie Avenue
> Deans
> Livingston
> West Lothian
> EH54 8NT
> 
> 07803 722031
> simon.salt@company-net.com
> 
> 

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1. Chevron Action Flash
2. Randy
3. KUPA
4. Strange Blue 1
5. Blue Arse Flies Prague
6. Cyrille
7. Little Shef
8. Blue Arse Flies Others
9. Red  (PLATE)
10. Mud Culture
11. Angels
12. Sneeekys
13.. Strange Blue 2

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Hi everyone

I'm trying to establish a collection of UK Team discs.
Are there any teams out there with discs for sale?

Take it easy
Tim
kamaya maya

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Hi,

Sorry to use the list... Further to Maria's anouncement (at the cam
coed), I am actually looking for a team
for the womens tour.

Cheers

Clo
Strange Blue coed 1.



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Sorry to post this to everyone, but I need to get in touch with Arun.  At 
the risk of gettting a bunch of e-mails with his address...
Could someone please send me his e-mail address or Arun, could you reply to 
this message?

Cheers,
Emily
KUPA/Bliss
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hello all,
is anyone driving to naunts from anywhere vaguely near york on friday?
any chance of a lift?

pete
leedsleedsleeds, YBK (and oddjob in nauntes)

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Sorry to use Britdisc for this but I have deleted the
message with his address on it, but can Shunter from
Trigger Happy, and ex-Disciples contact me please.

Cheers,
   Sox
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sorry to use britdisc again. i asked yesterday if anyone near york has
any space in their car going to nantes. if you do email me AND my
housemates address which is:

tom@tcandlin@fsnet.co.uk.

cheers,
pete

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TEAMS ENTERED FOR CO-ED SERIES 2 - HONG KONG 7's

CYRILLE
BAF
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AURORA BOREALIS
CHEVRON ACTION FLASH
JEDI CHILDREN
STRANGE BLUE
SUBLIME
LITTLE SHEF
RED
KUPA
TARA'S TEAM (AWAITING CHEQUE & NAME)
RANDY
ANGELS
MOHAWKS   

THEREFORE ONE PLACE LEFT IF YOU WANT TO GUARANTEE LAST PLACE MAIL ME BY 4PM
TODAY OR CALL BEN MITCHELL ON (0113) 2749097 TONIGHT.

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HONG KONG SEVENS NOW FULL TEAM LIST BELOW.

CYRILLE
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JEDI CHILDREN
STRANGE BLUE
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Hi,

The 7th Quarry Park Disc Golf Open takes place on June 9-10th 
and it is open to all. There will be tournament novices there so 
don't be shy if you fancy some disc golf. It is also possible to 
play one day only if you prefer (Saturday would be better than 
Sunday)

Details of the course can be found at http://quarrypark.co.uk

I can mail further details on request.

Derek


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Dear all,

Theres now only just over a fortnight to sort yourselves out and prepare 
your livers for the Kilkenny Ultimate Tournament 2001. It's on the 16th and 
17th of June in lush surrounds of Kilkenny College with good times 
guaranteed or your money back!

Speaking of money, its also dirt cheap. Just IRL£35 or £28 stg per team. And 
pick-up places are available. Come on, you know you want to.

For info on cheap flights and accomodation check out our web site 
www.kilkennyultimate.com
We'll link you to the airlines and accomodation sources that you need.

See you all in Kilkenny.
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Tour 3 is now FULL.  Due to the number of replies and the 
availability of pitches, tour 3 has been increased to a 36 
team tournament (Plus x8 womens teams on 2 separate 
pitches).

Teams entered are as follows:

1.  Team Shark
2.  Strange Blue
3.  Slipdisc
4.  Leicester Hustlers
5.  BAF Open
6.  BAF Mixed
7.  Red
8.  Headrush
9.  Whey!
10. Mohawk MWNCI Magic
11. Fusion 1
12. Fusion 2
13. Fluid Druids
14. Fever
15. Jedi Children
16. LeedLeedsLeeeds
17. Flyght Club
18. Sublime
19. G.B Juniors
20. Smash'n'Grab
21. Craic
22. Pookas
23. Clapham 1
24. Clapham 2
25. Skunks 1
26. Skunks 2
27. Hammerage
28. Chevron Action Flash
29. NDY
30. Point Blank
31. Un Poco Loco
32. Albatross
33. Jonny Bodgers Ultimate Team
34. Northern Roses 1
35. Northern Roses 2
36. Uriel

Additional Information:

- I have been told there will be 8 pitches at the main site 
and 6 pitches at the 2nd site 300-400m away.

- Parking is available on both sites

- Camping will be available on site on Friday and Saturday.

- Food will be available on site (Daytime).

- The evening entertainment and the bar are on site.

- Direction will follow soon.

Cheers
	Kev

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Dear Frisbee Lovers

Rumour has a few places left for its second year - as before, it will be a
feast of Frisbees, hackeys, tequila, food and fun.

The plan is to get together on the Friday, with music and bar, to get to
know all the players -
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by a gorgeous dinner.  Music will fill the air through out the weekend -
Partying till you drop will be compulsory - 

If you want it - you have to let us know Wednesday 15 June 2001 - 

See you in the sun with a Frisbee

Milky
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Just a quick note to say that due to lack of interest, probably due to 
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P.S.

7th 8th July

but you probably knew that already!

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Dear Frisbee Lovers

Rumour has a few places left for its second year - as before, it will be a
feast of Frisbees, hackeys, tequila, food and fun.

The plan is to get together on the Friday, with music and bar, to get to
know all the players -
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by a gorgeous dinner.  Music will fill the air through out the weekend -
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If you want it - you have to let us know Wednesday 15 June 2001 - 

See you in the sun with a Frisbee

Milky
Ickle
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www.ummedia.com/rumour



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02+03/06 Dive Hard, Goteborg
 2 Clapham Ultimate


02+03/06 Yes but Nau (beach), Nantes
 1 Mild Mannered Janitors
SOTG Random Fling


02-04/06 Talampaya Coed Challenge, Geneva
Superfly - how'd it go?


24-27/05 Harbour Ultimate, Rotterdam
 5 Fluid Druids
of 32 teams


05+06/05 Tom's Tournoi, Bruges
 3 Violently Happy
 5 Chevron Action Flash
 7 Red
 8 Fluid Druids
15 Night Fever
SOTG Night Fever.

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Clapham Ultimate had a fantastic weekend in Gothenburg. The ultimate was of
an extremely high standard: we lost 3 games out of 7 - 2 of them by 1 point,
and I don't think we won any by more than 4 or 5. Unfortunately not even
Guy's 3 blocks in the first 3 points against Skoggshydans could help us to
victory.

We strongly recommend it as a warm up tournament for all teams going to
Hawaii next year. I've little doubt we'll be going.

The Carnegie guys looked after us very well, driving us to and from the
fields every day in their Volvo estates and helping get Carthorse really
messy on Sunday night. Thanks Bjorn and Tobias.

Kind regards
Roger 


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02+03/06 Dive Hard, Goteborg
 2 Clapham Ultimate


02+03/06 Yes but Nau (beach), Nantes
 1 Mild Mannered Janitors
SOTG Random Fling


02-04/06 Talampaya Coed Challenge, Geneva
Superfly - how'd it go?


24-27/05 Harbour Ultimate, Rotterdam
 5 Fluid Druids
of 32 teams


05+06/05 Tom's Tournoi, Bruges
 3 Violently Happy
 5 Chevron Action Flash
 7 Red
 8 Fluid Druids
15 Night Fever
SOTG Night Fever.

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Congratulations to our ultimate teams! There were also 5 disc 
golfers from these shores who travelled to Oslo for the European 
Disc Golf Championships.

This was the biggest DG tournie ever held in Europe, with 2 x 22 
hole courses and 176 players. It was played on 2nd to 4th June.

In the Women's division Sue Underwood made the final and 
finished in 5th place.

In the Masters Division (40 +) Charlie Mead took the medal for 
3rd place.

In the Open Division Derek Robins made the semi-final cut and 
finished 36th. Jester finished 75th and Rich Sampson was further 
down the field.

The Open Division was won by 10 time PDGA World Champion 
Ken Climo from Florida USA. In second place, and thus the 
european European Champion, was Jesper Lundmark from 
Sweden.

I'm sure the full results will get posted to www.frisbee.as in the 
near future.

Coming up shortly.....
Quarry Park Open, Leamington Spa (June 9-10th)
British Open, Beaminster, Dorset (June 30-July 1)

Del


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Please can the winners (Wage) and the plate winners (Mud Culture) of last year's Leeds co-ed (Hong Kong 7s) bring the trophies with them this weekend.
Any problems please phone Arun on 0113 274 9097 today, or reply to this message.
Many Thanks

Ben Mitchell
Randy, Chevron

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>02-04/06 Talampaya Coed Challenge, Geneva
>Superfly - how'd it go?

After winning all our games on Saturday, including beating our rivals and last 
years finalists 'Clac Clac', we felt we had a shot at the final.

However, our Saturday night 'Magical Mystery Tour' of Geneva left us a little 
confused and we failed to win anything on Sunday.

Sunday night's 'Farm Freak' theme party gave us plenty of opportunity to 
forget our worries and we partied into small hours - notably Vito who turned 
up at the pitches the next day, still dressed as a cow, having 'spent the 
night with a girl in a squat'

Somehow we managed to win our game on Monday, finishing in 7th place out of 
20.

Cota Tequila (rimini) beat Potatas Brava's in a dull final.
We won a trophy for best costumes at the party.
Dene Barnsey was awarded a disc for being sick from the moment he got off the 
plane (food poisoning).
Sammy lost his blow up pig at the party, and nobody knew of it's where abouts 
at the ceremony when he asked for it back.

Special thanks to the host team - Wizards - who drove us from Pitch to party 
and Party to bed, and looked after us.

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Superfly managed a 7th place at the Talampaya co-ed in Geneva, improving on
last year's result by one place.

Once again the Wizards did not fail in organising one of the best tourneys
around; 3 days of close games, outstanding spirit, great partying, beer,
sunshine and fun fun fun.
The highlight of the weekend; fighting back from 2-5 and scoring 5 points in
the last 7 minutes of play to beat last year's finalists Clac Clac 7-5.

Thank you Wizards, especially for carting us around in your cars and vans
all weekend.
Role on Talampaya 2002!!

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You are invited to:

BOLOGNA TOURNAMENT - CUSB ULTIMATE BOLOGNA
Dates: 15-Sep-2001 to 16-Sep-2001
Where: Bologna, Italy
Web: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/bologna
email: spares3@la-fiduciaria.it (Ale)

We plan to offer you great ultimate, fun, good food and drinks, unforgettable party...
so COME TO OUR TOURNAMENT!

The last Year Registered teams:

1) FreeSpeed + Gnadelos (Switzerland)
2) Wombats (Switzerland)
3) 4 Stazioni (Germany)
4) Searching Woodpeckers (Germany)
5) Astronef (France)
6) Bologna (Belgium+Austria)
7) Les Invalides (France)
8) Winnie Pagota (Italy)
9) La fotta (Italy)
10) Flying Bischs (Italy)
11) Radicals (Switzerland)
12) Berlin AllStars (Germany)
13) Bradipi (Italy)
14) le Mucche (Italy)
15) Clac Clac (France)
16) Cota Rica (Italy)
17) Astor Mambelli (Italy)
18) Salutami 'Ntonio (Italy)
19) Voladora (Italy)
20) ZUF (Switzerland)

- how many teams this year?
We would like to have the highest possible number of teams playing in Bologna. The last year we had 20 teams. But these numbers can
vary according to how many teams will register. Please try to register if you're sure that at least 7 players will make it here.

- format:
(waiting for details)

- how you'll accommodated:
Gyms, bring your own sleeping bag/mattress.

- how you'll be fed:
On Friday night with red wine, spaghetti and bruschetta.
On Saturday and Sunday morning, for breakfast.
On Saturday night for dinner.
Food can be purchased on the fields during the whole tournament.

- how much this will cost you:
(waiting for details..)
Player fee = .. [last year was 30 Euro]
Team fee = ..

- how to register:
write to (Ale) at: spares3@la-fiduciaria.it or go to http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/bologna (sign - up)
We'll answer as soon as possible.

- Please bring something funny which will become prizes for other teams.

Vi aspettiamo! :-)
Ciao

Ale jandro



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The ultimate site about Ultimate, check it out!

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to anyone who got the bus from nootingham to nantes,
have you lost a black and silver necklace thing,
because i have it.

dan
flyght club


ps. other placings for the english teams:

1. janitors
9. odd job
10. flyght club
15. strange blue
18. random fling

SOTG: random fling

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I hear a rumour that there might be a British Open this year?

Any truth to the rumour? Any estimation on a potential date (even as inaccurate as "late-August", "early-September", "mid-September")?

I've checked with Chris Hughes - he says he's heard this rumour, too, and has so far managed to confirm that his prime suspect is not involved.

Regards
Wayne

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Mon, 14 May 2001, by Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO) <mailto:punwin@grantham.ac.uk
>;
 Subject: Tour 2
>there will be some errors in here as this is from memory. But you'll get
>the gist.

Taking the above statement into account, is the following correct?

It'd probably be useful to y'all for T3 if I put together the U8 points
tables...

>1.  Clapham 1 (cup)
>2.  Clapham 2
>3.  Chevron
>4.  LeedsLeedsLeeds
>5.  Fusion 1
>6.  Team Shark
>7.  Druids
>8.  Red
>9.  Whey
>10. Smash N Grab
>11. Hammerage
>12. Un Poco Loco
>
>13. BAF open (Plate )
>14. Headrush (Spirit of the Game)
>15. BAF Mixed
>16. Nightfever
>17. Bliss
>18. Fusion 2
>19. Strange Blue
>20. Slipdisc
>
>21. Jedi (Spoon)
>22. GB Juniors
>23. Flyght Club
>24. Hustlers
>25. Bears
>26. Northern Roses
>27. Janitors
>28. Trigger Happy

Cheers
Wayne

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Is anyone going to leeds sat am (or late Friday) from London and got space
for 1?

Cheers 
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I am not much of a e-list writer, but this is annoying me so much I just 
want to settle this for once and for all.

I got a discussion on the pitch now a couple of times about the timing of 
starting stalling. Perhaps it's a UK thing but players around here tend to 
start stalling while the thrower-to-be is not in possession yet. The reason 
they come up with is "you are allowed to start stalling 3 meters away from 
the thrower, even if the thrower-to-be is not in possession of the disc 
yet."

Well maybe it's me, but you are only a thrower if you have possession of the 
disc. See quote of WFDF rules:

4.10 The Thrower:
&#61623; A. A player may become "the thrower" by fielding a pull, receiving 
the disc from a teammate, intercepting a pass from an opponent, or by 
picking up the disc after a turnover. Whenever the disc is on the ground 
following a turnover, whether in or out-of-bounds, any player becoming 
offense may take possession of the disc and become the thrower.

So in my view you are only allowed to start stalling if the handler is in 
possession. And yes, it that case you may start on 3 m distance. See WFDF 
rules about possession and stalling:

404.12 The Receiver:
&#61623; A. Possession: A receiver gains possession by demonstrating 
sustained contact and control of a non-spinning disc while the receiver is 
on the ground and in-bounds

404.11B. Stalling: Once a marker is within 3 m of the thrower, he or she may 
initiate a count. This consists of the marker calling, "Stalling," and then 
counting at one second intervals to ten.


I do know that at WC and EC a rules is used for preventing the game from any 
delay. But I cannot find the rules on the WFDF site. Based on my memory that 
rule allowed a defender to start stalling by touching the disc while the 
thrower-to-be had not touched the disc yet, in order to prevent delay in the 
game. As I remember that rule, you had to restart stalling once the thrower 
became indeed a thrower by picking up the disc. Therefore offence was only 
allowed 10 sec's to get set up.

Perhaps somebody can get hold of this specific rule, so we will all know the 
right way to start stalling. If we can find this rule, I also would like to 
know if this rule applyes only to WC and EC, or also to the Tours. Since 
they do not seem to be stated in the WFDF rules on the web-site. Once more, 
this e-mail is not to start an e-mail chain of reactions, but to settle this 
for once and for all, because I prefer not to have this discussion on the 
pitch.

Cheers,
Miranda

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http://www.wfdf.org/2001ultirules.htm for the new rules.

AFAIKT they don't mention being able to stall without the opposition being
in possesion of the disk.  I think this rule comes from America where I
believe the UPA rules do have a 'delay-of-game' rule.

-- 
Neil Travers

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I've played at various tournaments in the UK for the last 3-4 years and to be honest I can say that I've never experienced somebody stalling me before I had the disc, at least not in any sort of "cheating" fashion.

The only situations I can think of where this happens is when somebody moves to the disc ready to take possesion, but then halts before picking up the disc in order to allow his/her team time to set up. In this case I have seen the marker start stalling in order to force the player to take possesion. This situation is really a case of spirit, with the hesitation basically being an example of bad spirit.

If I were you and this does happen again just call it as a foul. Of course if this is happening because you are hesitating to take possesion then there's no reason to complain in my mind.

Matt
Hustlers

>>> "Miranda Kuiper" <miranda_kuiper@hotmail.com> 06/07/01 02:13pm >>>
I am not much of a e-list writer, but this is annoying me so much I just 
want to settle this for once and for all.

I got a discussion on the pitch now a couple of times about the timing of 
starting stalling. Perhaps it's a UK thing but players around here tend to 
start stalling while the thrower-to-be is not in possession yet. The reason 
they come up with is "you are allowed to start stalling 3 meters away from 
the thrower, even if the thrower-to-be is not in possession of the disc 
yet."

Well maybe it's me, but you are only a thrower if you have possession of the 
disc. See quote of WFDF rules:

4.10 The Thrower:
&#61623; A. A player may become "the thrower" by fielding a pull, receiving 
the disc from a teammate, intercepting a pass from an opponent, or by 
picking up the disc after a turnover. Whenever the disc is on the ground 
following a turnover, whether in or out-of-bounds, any player becoming 
offense may take possession of the disc and become the thrower.

So in my view you are only allowed to start stalling if the handler is in 
possession. And yes, it that case you may start on 3 m distance. See WFDF 
rules about possession and stalling:

404.12 The Receiver:
&#61623; A. Possession: A receiver gains possession by demonstrating 
sustained contact and control of a non-spinning disc while the receiver is 
on the ground and in-bounds

404.11B. Stalling: Once a marker is within 3 m of the thrower, he or she may 
initiate a count. This consists of the marker calling, "Stalling," and then 
counting at one second intervals to ten.


I do know that at WC and EC a rules is used for preventing the game from any 
delay. But I cannot find the rules on the WFDF site. Based on my memory that 
rule allowed a defender to start stalling by touching the disc while the 
thrower-to-be had not touched the disc yet, in order to prevent delay in the 
game. As I remember that rule, you had to restart stalling once the thrower 
became indeed a thrower by picking up the disc. Therefore offence was only 
allowed 10 sec's to get set up.

Perhaps somebody can get hold of this specific rule, so we will all know the 
right way to start stalling. If we can find this rule, I also would like to 
know if this rule applyes only to WC and EC, or also to the Tours. Since 
they do not seem to be stated in the WFDF rules on the web-site. Once more, 
this e-mail is not to start an e-mail chain of reactions, but to settle this 
for once and for all, because I prefer not to have this discussion on the 
pitch.

Cheers,
Miranda

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The rules on stall are quite clear on a number of points:
You can start stalling the moment that a player has possession ie has
control of the disc, AND has established a pivot point; AND if you are
within 3m to initiate the stall count.

So you can start stalling the moment a player has landed from catching a
disc (if they use more than their three contacts you have a choice -
continue stalling or call travel)
If the player has laid out you can stall them before they get up.
However if a player lands in - but runs or slides out of bounds; you can
only stall once they return to the pitch
If a player picks the disc up you can start stalling the moment the put the
disc in play - so cleaning / drying the disc can be stalled (Although this
is at your discretion, so they may let you off if you let them off).
Remember that if you pick the disc up out of bounds, and walk it to the
sideline or end zone line the disc does not have to touched in by the
opposition, you can just start stalling once they establish a pivot foot.

If a player injures themselves during a catch or dive for the disc, remember
that the injury  time out, irrelevant of when it is called, occurs at the
time of the injury. So if you get the stall to seven before someone rolls
over after a layout to call a T/O the stall goes back to when they injured
themselves - ie on landing and so a stall of zero at the restart.

There are no WFDF rules about stalling a grounded disc before it is put into
play. They rules say that you must put the disc in play as soon as possible,
and cannot stand over the disc, but have no penalties to enforce if you do.
The rule on stalling a grounded disc was a UPA rule, that was removed after
a trial period.

Loop-Hole:
The WFDF rules state that you need to be within 3m to 'initiate' a stall
count. But doesn't say that you have stay within 3m to continue stalling. So
run to cover deep whilst continuing to stall loud enough so that the player
in possession can hear you (That is a requirement by the rules - so no
stalling under your breath). Good argument to ensue.
Somehow I don't think that this was the intention of the rules - as ever
SOTG applies above all else.

Chris
DoC

-----Original Message-----
From: Miranda Kuiper [mailto:miranda_kuiper@hotmail.com]
Sent: 07 June 2001 14:14
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: ultimate rules, start stalling


I am not much of a e-list writer, but this is annoying me so much I just 
want to settle this for once and for all.

I got a discussion on the pitch now a couple of times about the timing of 
starting stalling. Perhaps it's a UK thing but players around here tend to 
start stalling while the thrower-to-be is not in possession yet. The reason 
they come up with is "you are allowed to start stalling 3 meters away from 
the thrower, even if the thrower-to-be is not in possession of the disc 
yet."

Well maybe it's me, but you are only a thrower if you have possession of the

disc. See quote of WFDF rules:

4.10 The Thrower:
&#61623; A. A player may become "the thrower" by fielding a pull, receiving 
the disc from a teammate, intercepting a pass from an opponent, or by 
picking up the disc after a turnover. Whenever the disc is on the ground 
following a turnover, whether in or out-of-bounds, any player becoming 
offense may take possession of the disc and become the thrower.

So in my view you are only allowed to start stalling if the handler is in 
possession. And yes, it that case you may start on 3 m distance. See WFDF 
rules about possession and stalling:

404.12 The Receiver:
&#61623; A. Possession: A receiver gains possession by demonstrating 
sustained contact and control of a non-spinning disc while the receiver is 
on the ground and in-bounds

404.11B. Stalling: Once a marker is within 3 m of the thrower, he or she may

initiate a count. This consists of the marker calling, "Stalling," and then 
counting at one second intervals to ten.


I do know that at WC and EC a rules is used for preventing the game from any

delay. But I cannot find the rules on the WFDF site. Based on my memory that

rule allowed a defender to start stalling by touching the disc while the 
thrower-to-be had not touched the disc yet, in order to prevent delay in the

game. As I remember that rule, you had to restart stalling once the thrower 
became indeed a thrower by picking up the disc. Therefore offence was only 
allowed 10 sec's to get set up.

Perhaps somebody can get hold of this specific rule, so we will all know the

right way to start stalling. If we can find this rule, I also would like to 
know if this rule applyes only to WC and EC, or also to the Tours. Since 
they do not seem to be stated in the WFDF rules on the web-site. Once more, 
this e-mail is not to start an e-mail chain of reactions, but to settle this

for once and for all, because I prefer not to have this discussion on the 
pitch.

Cheers,
Miranda

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> they come up with is "you are allowed to start stalling 3 
> meters away from the thrower, even if the thrower-to-be is 
> not in possession of the disc yet."

well that sounds pretty blatantly wrong to me. By "not in possession of the
disc yet" do you mean they are about to receive a thrown disc, or pick up a
disc off the ground after turnover.

If, after a turnover,  someone is standing over a disc, not picking it up,
presumably waiting for some sort of offensive structure to appear, i *will*
start stalling them. The rules don't really support this, but it is a sprit
foul not to pick up the disc as soon as you make clear your intention to be
the thrower. I have never been called up for this, and every time I have
done it, the "thrower" has pretty quickly picked up the disc and it's in
play.

Andy
Chevron

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We were having a similar discussion last night at practice.

I seem to remember reading somewhere, maybe rec.sport.disc - so it could be
a UPA rule - that the D could start stalling you if you stood over the disc
without picking it up. This poses the question - what happens if you change
your mind and let someone else pick up the disc?

If you take this to its logical conclusion, you could get stalled out
without even picking up the disc...  which doesn't seem right to me.

Is this one of those grey areas where spirit is the key?

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> I do know that at WC and EC a rules is used for preventing the
> game from any
> delay. But I cannot find the rules on the WFDF site. Based on my
> memory that
> rule allowed a defender to start stalling by touching the disc while the
> thrower-to-be had not touched the disc yet, in order to prevent
> delay in the
> game. As I remember that rule, you had to restart stalling once
> the thrower
> became indeed a thrower by picking up the disc. Therefore offence
> was only
> allowed 10 sec's to get set up.

I've used this a couple of times, when I've got really pissed off with
people not picking up the disc.

If someone is obviously stalling by standing near the disc and about to
play, you can check the disc into play and start stalling. AFAIK you don't
have to restart the count when they actually pick it up.

Ralf.

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Hi

I thought Miranda clearly said it wasnt meant to start an e-mail chain of
reactions.....
I think we all had a clear answer, so maybe its enough for now.

Thanks

CC

Andrew Wilson wrote:

> We were having a similar discussion last night at practice.
>
> I seem to remember reading somewhere, maybe rec.sport.disc - so it could be
> a UPA rule - that the D could start stalling you if you stood over the disc
> without picking it up. This poses the question - what happens if you change
> your mind and let someone else pick up the disc?
>
> If you take this to its logical conclusion, you could get stalled out
> without even picking up the disc...  which doesn't seem right to me.
>
> Is this one of those grey areas where spirit is the key?

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Hi,
I have been called for bad spirit for making this call when I thought 
someone was hovering over the disc waiting for their offense to set up.  I 
learned under UPA rules and the rule is below.  It does require a delay of 
game call before the stall count can start, something I didn't do and wasn't 
aware of.
Hope this helps.
Emily
KUPA/Bliss


Stalling:
A defensive player within three (3) meters of the pivot foot of the thrower 
may initiate a stall count. If an offensive player moving into the throwing 
position "stands over the disc" (i.e., within three meters) without putting 
the disc into play, the marker may issue a "Delay of Game" warning. If the 
disc is not picked up, the marker may initiate a stall count.
The count consists of the marker calling "Stalling" or "Counting" and 
counting at one second intervals from one to ten (1, 10) loudly enough for 
the thrower to hear.
If the thrower has not released the disc at the first utterance of the word 
"ten" ("10"), a turnover and a check result.
If the defense decides to switch markers; and if the new marker wishes to 
initiate a stalling count, s/he must start again from "one" ("1").
In the event of a stall, the once marker, now offensive player, does not 
have to take the disc after the check. The once thrower, now marker, checks 
the disc to the new thrower, if s/he does not want the disc, the marker 
"checks" the disc by placing it on the ground and calling "in play."
The thrower may contest a stall call if s/he feels that s/he had released 
the disc before the first utterance of the word "ten".
In the event of a contested stall, if the pass is completed, play stops, and 
possession reverts back to the thrower. After a check, the marker starts the 
stall count at eight (8).
In the event of a contested stall, if the pass is incomplete, it is a 
turnover, and play continues without interruption.
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> (if they use more than their three contacts you have a choice -
> continue stalling or call travel)

The 3 contacts has nothing to do with coming to a halt (*). It only refers
to throwing without stopping. So if they've thrown without stopping, you
wouldn't be still trying to stall them.


* - 404.16 Violations: C. Traveling: 

2. Whenever a receiver takes more steps than he or she requires to stop
after catching a pass, that receiver has traveled. 

3. If a receiver, after receiving a pass on the run, releases a pass after
making three ground contacts and before coming to a complete stop, that
receiver has traveled. 


-- 
Neil Travers

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Anyone else listening to Chris Moyles may have heard him and his lackeys
going on about their weekly game of 'frisbee football'. They seem to play 2
a side and run around with the disc throwing into goals.

Is this an opportunity for ultimate to get mentioned on the radio or just be
humiliated by them?

still any publicity.... 

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Subject: Re: chris moyles on radio one
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Please don't be tempted. There's good publicity and bad publicity, both of
which can work and then there's pointless humiliation by a moron. If brains
were dynamite Mr Moyles wouldn't even be able to make his ears pop.

Nolan

> From: Rob Trup <rob.trup@themarketingdepartment.co.uk>
> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:32:41 +0100
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> 
> Anyone else listening to Chris Moyles may have heard him and his lackeys
> going on about their weekly game of 'frisbee football'. They seem to play 2
> a side and run around with the disc throwing into goals.
> 
> Is this an opportunity for ultimate to get mentioned on the radio or just be
> humiliated by them?
> 
> still any publicity.... 

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Ok - so the UPA rule in effect is: (from 9th Ed. - I don't have my copy of
10th Ed.) http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ferguson/ultimate/new-rules.html

XIV 5
Stalling.
A. A defensive player within three (3) meters of the
pivot foot of the thrower may initiate a stall
count. If an offensive player moving into the
throwing position ''stands over the disc'' (i.e.,
within three meters) without putting the disc
into play, the marker may issue of ''Delay of
Game'' warning. If the disc is not picked up, the
marker may initiate a stall count.

as I understand it this pretty much squares with the WFDF Rule
(http://www.wfdf.org/2001ultirulesrev.htm)

404.11 
 B. Stalling: Once a marker is within 3 m of the thrower, he or she may
initiate a count. This consists of the marker calling, "Stalling," and then
counting at one second intervals to ten. If the thrower has not released the
disc by the first sound of the word "ten," then a change of possession with
a check shall result. If during the stall count, the defense switches
markers, the new marker must begin a new count at zero. In the event of a
stall, the once-marker, now offensive player, does not have to take the disc
after the check. The once-thrower, now marker, checks the disc to the new
thrower. If he or she does not want the disc, the marker "checks" the disc
by placing it on the ground and calling "In play."


BUT there is no delay of game reg. here... it seems to me that according to
the letter of the law, if you are playing WFDF rules then you can basically
stand over the disc until your team is set, and then the stall counts when
you take possession.  Spirit in this case would seem to apply...

*plink plink fizz*

Cads

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Wilson [mailto:agwilson@lucent.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:49 AM
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: ultimate rules, start stalling
> 
> 
> We were having a similar discussion last night at practice.
> 
> I seem to remember reading somewhere, maybe rec.sport.disc - 
> so it could be
> a UPA rule - that the D could start stalling you if you stood 
> over the disc
> without picking it up. This poses the question - what happens 
> if you change
> your mind and let someone else pick up the disc?
> 
> If you take this to its logical conclusion, you could get stalled out
> without even picking up the disc...  which doesn't seem right to me.
> 
> Is this one of those grey areas where spirit is the key?
> 

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hi all-

we need one boy and one girl for this weekend in leeds...

if you want to pick up last minute and can make it to leeds let me know ASAP!!

thanks-
olivier
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Hello all,
Could the teams who have expressed an interest in coming to the Kilkenny 
Tournament please email me to tell me if you will:

a : definitely be coming
b : probably be coming
c : probably not be coming
d : definitely not be coming.

These are the likes of Purple Haze, Sublime, Phat 'Eds, Oxford (Martha and 
the...) ,and others (you know who you are) as well as all the small groups 
and individual pick-ups. This is so I can begin to get a rough schedule 
drawn up. Then I can tell you how
early you have to get up on the saturday morning!

And for the rest of you good people, theres still space available. Heres 
your chance to add your name to britdiscs illustrious "Brits Abroad" list.
You know you want to!
Ta
Ian aka Jazz
Tournament Director
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basic points allocation for results of Tour 2

POSITION TEAM                 POINTS
 1      Clapham 1                250
 2      Clapham 2                230
 3      Chevron Action Flash     222
 4      LeedsLeedsLeeds          210
 5      Fusion 1                 205
 6      TeamShark                190
 7      Fluid Druids             181
 8      Red                      170
 9      Whey                     160
10      Smash & Grab             150
11      Hammerage                141
12      Un Poco Loco             130
13      Blue Arse Flies Open     125
14      Headrush                 110
15      Blue Arse Flies Mixed    101
16      Nightfever                90
17      Bliss                     81
18      Fusion 2                  73
19      Strange Blue              67
20      Slipdisc                  60
21      Jedi                      53
22      GB Juniors                47
23      Flyght Club               40
24      Hustlers                  33
25      Bears                     27
26      Northern Roses            20
27      Mild Mannered Janitors    13
28      Trigger Happy              7

Points for positions 1-17 are fixed,
Teams below 17th in m'th position (with N teams in the tournament) score
80*(N+1-m)/(N-16) points, (rounding to the nearest integer).

tour ranking after tour 2 (note: teams equal on points have been sorted
alphabetically)

TEAM NAME                TOUR 1         TOUR 2      POINTS/RANK
Clapham 1               250  1/28      250  1/28      500   1
Chevron Action Flash    230  2/28      222  3/28      452   2=
Clapham 2               222  3/28      230  2/28      452   2=
Fusion 1                210  4/28      205  5/28      415   4=
LeedsLeedsLeeds         205  5/28      210  4/28      415   4=
TeamShark               190  6/28      190  6/28      380   6
Fluid Druids            181  7/28      181  7/28      362   7
Red                     170  8/28      170  8/28      340   8
Smash & Grab            160  9/28      150 10/28      310   9=
Whey                    150 10/28      160  9/28      310   9=
Blue Arse Flies Open    141 11/28      125 13/28      266  11=
Hammerage               125 13/28      141 11/28      266  11=
Headrush                130 12/28      110 14/28      240  13=
Un Poco Loco            110 14/28      130 12/28      240  13=
Blue Arse Flies Mixed    81 17/28      101 15/28      182  15
Nightfever               90 16/28       90 16/28      180  16
Strange Blue            101 15/28       67 19/28      168  17
Fusion 2                 73 18/28       73 18/28      146  18
Flyght Club              67 19/28       40 23/28      107  19=
GB Juniors               60 20/28       47 22/28      107  19=
Jedi                     53 21/28       53 21/28      106  21
Slipdisc                 40 23/28       60 20/28      100  22
Bliss                     -   -         81 17/28       81  23
Sublime                  47 22/28        -   -         47  24
Bears                     7 28/28       27 25/28       34  25
Hustlers                  -   -         33 24/28       33  26=
UWE                      33 24/28        -   -         33  26=
Albatross                27 25/28        -   -         27  28
Mild Mannered Janitors   13 27/28       13 27/28       26  29
Mohawk Mwnci Magic       20 26/28        -   -         20  30=
Northern Roses            -   -         20 26/28       20  30=
Trigger Happy             -   -          7 28/28        7  32


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Hey, whats wrong with Edinburgh then?  Great city, great place to have a
tournament but so far I only have one cheque:
 
Mud Culture
 
I have provisional bookings from the following:
 
El Nino
Random Fling/Superfly
Leeds
 
If you are intending to come can you please let me know in the next 7 days
otherwise we will have to cancel this tournament.
 
cheers
Simon
Sneeekys
 
 

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<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001>Hey, whats wrong with Edinburgh 
then?&nbsp; Great city, great place to have a tournament but 
s</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001>o far I only have one 
cheque:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001>Mud Culture</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001>I have provisional bookings 
from the following:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001>El Nino</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001><FONT size=2>Random 
Fling/Superfly</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001><FONT 
size=2>Leeds</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001><FONT 
size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001><FONT size=2>If you are 
intending to come can you please let me know in the next 7 days otherwise we 
will have to cancel this tournament.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001><FONT 
size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=118432007-08062001><FONT 
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size=2>Simon</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Message for Superlfy

Adriano Vitali from your team sent me an e-mail the day before yesterday. I
have responded to his mail but it keeps getting returned to me. Can I send
the response to anyone else in the team?

Many thanks

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The pub for Friday night is now called the Library - it the same meeting
place as b4 but the name has changed.

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Going into this weekend's HK7s tournament, the team standings are as
follows:

Chevron Action Flash          60 points
Randy                                 50
KUPA                                42
Strange Blue 1                     35
BAF Prague                        29
Cyrille                                 24
Little Shef                           20
BAF Others                        18  (one new player)
Red                                    15
Mud Culture                       14
Sneeekys                            11  (one new player)
Angels                                10
Strange Blue 2                    10

Remember- you only need 20 points to qualify for nationals.


Thanks to everyone for showing up with enough players.

Good luck this weekend!
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Hi all,
Sneeeky's have some lovely new discs printed for the summer.
So if you want to consign that old bit of beat up plastic you've been
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Sorry to bother you again...

If anyone can offer me a lift to leeds Sat morning can you give me a call as
my inbox isn't receiving incoming mail at the mo...

Cheers 
Fi
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Heard lots of people muttering about getting to Kilkenny (this w/e) and/or Edinburgh (CoEd, later) and wondered if this might help persuade anyone...


Wayne


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Subject: GBP 35 rtn - Belfast, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London

GBP 35 rtn - Belfast, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London

*************

Fly between London Stansted and Scotland or Northern Ireland from just GBP 35 rtn incl tax. Book at http://www.go-fly.com before 5pm 15 July and travel between 13 June and 20 July 2001.

*************

Fly from London Stansted to:
Belfast International, Edinburgh or Glasgow International from GBP 35 rtn incl tax.

or

Fly from Belfast International, Edinburgh or Glasgow International to:
London Stansted from GBP 35 rtn incl tax.

*************

smart info

We have frequent flights to all of these cities so there are thousands of seats available at this low, low fare. Book as soon as possible and travel mid week (Mondays to Thursdays) or on early morning or late evening flights.

*************

For great rates on hotels and car hire book through our partners, HotelConnect and Holiday Autos, click 'travel extras'.

Fares are subject to availability on selected flights. Conditions apply. A GBP 3 fee applies on credit card bookings. Visit http://www.go-fly.com for details.


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Hi people, just thought that I should remind you
people of the Durham Hat tournament which is happening
this weekend.  Details below,

Get Involved!

Starfish (DUF Pres.)

Northern Lights are holding the second annual Durham
Hat tournament -
and you're all invited! The festival of frisbee will
be taking place
over the 16/17th June, and will include a full two
days of ultimate, a
range of prizes (winners trophy, spoon, 3 pint
challenge, sharking,
etc), a party to rival last year's (even the UV
breasts!), and a late
start time on the Sunday (due to above!).

The cost will be £5 per person, which will include
free fresh fruit
all weekend. Snacks and sandwiches will be available
at a small cost
(around 50p - what do you think this is, the tour?!). 


As it is a hat tournament, the teams will be mixed
ability and gender
so all standards are welcome. If you know of anyone
who may be
interested (within your club, for example) but who is
not on egroups,
please forward this invitation to them. To enter, or
for more
information, please reply to this email or contact
tournament@dufdisc.co.uk.

We are expecting a spectacular tounament, and we hope
to see you
there!

Kos
Capt. Northern Lights

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<html><DIV>
<P><BR><BR></P></DIV>
<P>Flying to Belfast in order to get to Kilkenny may prove to be taking a somewhat protracted route. The Jazzman recommends that you fly to Dublin which is substantially closer.</P>
<P>The best deals are probably with <A href="http://www.ryanair.com">www.ryanair.com</A> and they fly from Stanstead, Birmingham, Bournemouth, Bristol and Cardiff and others to Dublin. Other carriers include Aer Lingus, BMI British Midland, BA and a host of smaller airlines.</P>
<P>Those of you who are nervour flyers may wish to check out <A href="http://www.amigoingdown.com">www.amigoingdown.com</A> before you depart to assess your chances of survival. Just kidding.</P>
<P>Ian aka Jazz</P>
<P>&gt;From: "Wayne Retter" <WRETTER@POSTMASTER.CO.UK></P>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: BritDisc <BRITDISC@CSV.WARWICK.AC.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: GOing to Kilkenny or Edinburgh ? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:17:40 +0100 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Heard lots of people muttering about getting to Kilkenny (this w/e) and/or Edinburgh (CoEd, later) and wondered if this might help persuade anyone... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wayne 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:17:18 +0100 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: GBP 35 rtn - Belfast, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;GBP 35 rtn - Belfast, Edinburgh, Glasgow and London 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;************* 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Fly between London Stansted and Scotland or Northern Ireland from just GBP 35 rtn incl tax. Book at http://www.go-fly.com before 5pm 15 July and travel between 13 June and 20 July 2001. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;************* 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Fly from London Stansted to: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Belfast International, Edinburgh or Glasgow International from GBP 35 rtn incl tax. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;or 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Fly from Belfast International, Edinburgh or Glasgow International to: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;London Stansted from GBP 35 rtn incl tax. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;************* 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;smart info 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;We have frequent flights to all of these cities so there are thousands of seats available at this low, low fare. Book as soon as possible and travel mid week (Mondays to Thursdays) or on early morning or late evening flights. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;************* 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;For great rates on hotels and car hire book through our partners, HotelConnect and Holiday Autos, click 'travel extras'. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Fares are subject to availability on selected flights. Conditions apply. A GBP 3 fee applies on credit card bookings. Visit http://www.go-fly.com for details. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;-- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wayne Retter 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;w.retter@bigfoot.com 
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RESULTS OF HK7's 2001

CHEVRON ACTION FLASH   -  CHAMPIONS
KUPA
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WAGE
CYRILLE
BAF OTHERS
LITTLE SHEF
STRANGE BLUE   -   PLATE WINNERS
SNEEEKY'S  -  SPIRIT WINNERS
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MOHAWKS

Any incorrect positioning please advise.

Thanks for coming - see you next year.

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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">CHEVRON ACTION FLASH&nbsp;&nbsp; -&nbsp; CHAMPIONS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">KUPA</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Thanks for coming - see you next year.</FONT>
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There used to be a page on the BUF website about running tournaments.
Where's it gone ?

Wayne

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All-

I've heard 'grumblings' about teams not showing up with enough player- =
which is NOT acceptable this year because of Worlds qualifications.

This is your chance to own up-  if you didn't have enough players to =
play the tournament (barring on-site injuries) 'fess up now- because I =
will be pursuing this.  Its easier to be reasonable when I don't have to =
chase people all over the planet.

Anyone with questions about opposing teams and their rosters needs to =
get in touch with me with SPECIFIC details.

No nationals points will be awarded until I get a better picture of what =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All-</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've heard 'grumblings' about teams not =
showing up=20
with enough player- which is NOT acceptable this year because of Worlds=20
qualifications.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is your chance to own up-&nbsp; if =
you didn't=20
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'fess up=20
now- because I will be pursuing this.&nbsp; Its easier to be reasonable =
when I=20
don't have to chase people all over the planet.</FONT></DIV>
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teams and=20
their rosters needs to get in touch with me with SPECIFIC =
details.</FONT></DIV>
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until I get a=20
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Melanie=20Barlow?= <melanie_barlow@yahoo.co.uk>
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wow.. whoever took the fun out of frisbee for Nancy
owes her big-time...

.. like life without sunshine.. or.. or music without
notes..

--- Nancy Stebbing <nancy.stebbing@tesco.net> wrote: >
All-
> 
> I've heard 'grumblings' about teams not showing up
> with enough player- which is NOT acceptable this
> year because of Worlds qualifications.
> 
> This is your chance to own up-  if you didn't have
> enough players to play the tournament (barring
> on-site injuries) 'fess up now- because I will be
> pursuing this.  Its easier to be reasonable when I
> don't have to chase people all over the planet.
> 
> Anyone with questions about opposing teams and their
> rosters needs to get in touch with me with SPECIFIC
> details.
> 
> No nationals points will be awarded until I get a
> better picture of what went on this weekend.
> 
> nancy
> 


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Perhaps it was the people who fail to appreciate her efforts to try 
and run a co-ed tour that's fair to all the teams who enter it, and 
gives them all an equal chance of qualifying for nationals/worlds.  
But maybe she really gets her fun out of writing and disseminating 
lengthy and entirely clear explanations of the rules that apply at co-
ed tournaments, and then getting to spend extra time chasing up 
the people who ignore them.  What do you think?

Pete Connor

From:           	Melanie Barlow <melanie_barlow@yahoo.co.uk>
> wow.. whoever took the fun out of frisbee for Nancy
> owes her big-time...
> .. like life without sunshine.. or.. or music without
> notes..
> 
> --- Nancy Stebbing <nancy.stebbing@tesco.net> wrote: >
> All-
> > 
> > I've heard 'grumblings' about teams not showing up
> > with enough player- which is NOT acceptable this
> > year because of Worlds qualifications.
> > 
> > This is your chance to own up-  if you didn't have
> > enough players to play the tournament (barring
> > on-site injuries) 'fess up now- because I will be
> > pursuing this.  Its easier to be reasonable when I
> > don't have to chase people all over the planet.
> > 
> > Anyone with questions about opposing teams and their
> > rosters needs to get in touch with me with SPECIFIC
> > details.
> > 
> > No nationals points will be awarded until I get a
> > better picture of what went on this weekend.
> > 
> > nancy
> > 
> 
> 
> ____________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
> or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
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From: "Alejandro Aragon" <spares3@la-fiduciaria.it>
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Subject: BOLOGNA TOURNAMENT - CUSB ULTIMATE BOLOGNA 
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:42:14 +0200
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You are invited to:

BOLOGNA TOURNAMENT - CUSB ULTIMATE BOLOGNA
Dates: 15-Sep-2001 to 16-Sep-2001
Where: Bologna, Italy
Web: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/bologna
email: spares3@la-fiduciaria.it (Ale)

We plan to offer you great ultimate, fun, good food and drinks, unforgettable party...
so COME TO OUR TOURNAMENT!

The last Year Registered teams:

1) FreeSpeed + Gnadelos (Switzerland)
2) Wombats (Switzerland)
3) 4 Stazioni (Germany)
4) Searching Woodpeckers (Germany)
5) Astronef (France)
6) Bologna (Belgium+Austria)
7) Les Invalides (France)
8) Winnie Pagota (Italy)
9) La fotta (Italy)
10) Flying Bischs (Italy)
11) Radicals (Switzerland)
12) Berlin AllStars (Germany)
13) Bradipi (Italy)
14) le Mucche (Italy)
15) Clac Clac (France)
16) Cota Rica (Italy)
17) Astor Mambelli (Italy)
18) Salutami 'Ntonio (Italy)
19) Voladora (Italy)
20) ZUF (Switzerland)

- how many teams this year?
We would like to have the highest possible number of teams playing in Bologna. The last year we had 20 teams. But these numbers can
vary according to how many teams will register. Please try to register if you're sure that at least 7 players will make it here.

- format:
(waiting for details)

- how you'll accommodated:
Gyms, bring your own sleeping bag/mattress.

- how you'll be fed:
On Friday night with red wine, spaghetti and bruschetta.
On Saturday and Sunday morning, for breakfast.
On Saturday night for dinner.
Food can be purchased on the fields during the whole tournament.

- how much this will cost you:
(waiting for details..)
Player fee = .. [last year was 30 Euro]
Team fee = ..

- how to register:
write to (Ale) at: spares3@la-fiduciaria.it or go to http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/bologna (sign - up)
We'll answer as soon as possible.

- Please bring something funny which will become prizes for other teams.

Vi aspettiamo! :-)
Ciao

Ale jandro




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Hello. I will be out of the office on study leave until Thursday 14th June. Please contact Ben Reeves (ben.reeves@leoburnett.co.uk) for further assistance. Thanks

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.. oh.. and like egroups without the dance of human
opinion...

Fortunately, I have only a general notion of what goes
on within UK Ultimate to prompt the heated tone of
certain emails.  I'm intrigued by the symptoms,
uninterested in the cause.

I recommend venting frustration with a hobby of some
kind.  Personally, I recommend playing Ultimate
frisbee.  Experience has shown its effects to be quite
therapeutic.

Mel

--- Peter Connor <p.m.connor@open.ac.uk> wrote: >
Perhaps it was the people who fail to appreciate her
> efforts to try 
> and run a co-ed tour that's fair to all the teams
> who enter it, and 
> gives them all an equal chance of qualifying for
> nationals/worlds.  
> But maybe she really gets her fun out of writing and
> disseminating 
> lengthy and entirely clear explanations of the rules
> that apply at co-
> ed tournaments, and then getting to spend extra time
> chasing up 
> the people who ignore them.  What do you think?
> 
> Pete Connor
> 
> From:           	Melanie Barlow
> <melanie_barlow@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wow.. whoever took the fun out of frisbee for
> Nancy
> > owes her big-time...
> > .. like life without sunshine.. or.. or music
> without
> > notes..
> > 
> > --- Nancy Stebbing <nancy.stebbing@tesco.net>
> wrote: >
> > All-
> > > 
> > > I've heard 'grumblings' about teams not showing
> up
> > > with enough player- which is NOT acceptable this
> > > year because of Worlds qualifications.
> > > 
> > > This is your chance to own up-  if you didn't
> have
> > > enough players to play the tournament (barring
> > > on-site injuries) 'fess up now- because I will
> be
> > > pursuing this.  Its easier to be reasonable when
> I
> > > don't have to chase people all over the planet.
> > > 
> > > Anyone with questions about opposing teams and
> their
> > > rosters needs to get in touch with me with
> SPECIFIC
> > > details.
> > > 
> > > No nationals points will be awarded until I get
> a
> > > better picture of what went on this weekend.
> > > 
> > > nancy
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>
____________________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at
> http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
> > or your free @yahoo.ie address at
> http://mail.yahoo.ie
> > 
> 
> 


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dear all,

i am pleased to announce the availability of some new dumb-ass Chevron
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Big bulk orders from schools, clubs or Sammy will be accepted gleefully. I
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with much love

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Hi everyone,

I'd like to introduce our new Ultimate team, CHUFT, based in Chester in NW
England.  There's about 15 of us who have been playing for a month or so
since we started chucking a disc around at a wedding reception in our suits
in may.

We are very keen but I suspect lacking in ability.  

Nonetheless we have entered the Rumour 2001 tourney in Chipping Norton, and
just wondered if anybody from the list was there last year and can advise on
what to expect.  From the web site
http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html it looks great, and heavily
infuenced by tequila (even better).

Also, if anyone wants to throw a frisbee around, we meet in Grosvenor Park
in Chester at 6.30 on Tuesdays (unless it's raining), and would love more
players of any ability.  We generally play for a couple of hours then retire
to the pub to do the crucial team bonding stuff and leave grass all over the
carpet.

See you soon
Steve
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>
>
> >Also, if anyone wants to throw a frisbee around, we meet in Grosvenor Park
> in Chester at 6.30 on Tuesdays (unless it's raining)

WHAT????? What is this? You guys better play EVEN if its raining and snowing and
windy...!
Right? Got it?...Ill check. Ultimate ignores weather conditions, it only suffers
them...;)

Clo :-)
(kidding)

>
>
> See you soon
> Steve
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The 7th Quarry Park Open was held on 9-10th June and 42 
people enjoyed a great weekend of disc golf. It was especially 
nice to see some new faces, and many of the newcomers did 
exceptionally well on their debut. Bruce (who plays Ulti for Point 
Blank) made the Amateur final and finished 4th in that division, 
meanwhile Carl took the prize for longest drive.

The Amateur final was closely contested with Steve 
"Weatherman" Jones taking a narrow lead into the final 6 holes. 
He was overhauled at the end by teenager Ben Foxall who had 
travelled all the way down from Fife to play.

In the Open division it looked like Derek Robins had his 7th 
successive title in the bag after 3 rounds when he was 10 shots 
ahead of the pack. However, a disastrous 4th round 42 for him, 
coupled with a sizzling 35 by Oz Freire (including an ace) saw 
the lead reduced to 3. The final saw little movement in the top 
group, with Del and Oz taking 1st and 2nd. Visiting american HB 
Clark overtook Ivan Bromage to take 3rd spot.

Prizes of discs, wine and chocolate were awarded for top 3 
amateurs and pros, as well as for the longest putt -Tom Soper on 
both days, Closest to Pin - Del, longest drive -Carl, and first disc 
lost in the Avon - Dan Massey. The Womens division was won by 
Sue Underwood. As highest placed newcomer Bruce Webber 
won BDGA membership.

The barbeque in the evening went down very well and those with 
energy left threw an Ultrastar (and themselves!!) around and 
played night golf with flash guns to charge the discs. The rest of 
us kept warm around a bonfire and witnessed the ritual sacrifice 
of a virgin golf disc.

It was all good fun, thanks to everyone for coming and especially 
to Hannah for getting all the food.

Del

Rank Name Div Rnd 1 Rnd 2 Rnd 3 Rnd 4 Total Final Total
1 Derek Robins Pro 49 47 37 42 175 17 192
2 Oz Freire Pro 46 55 42 35 178 18 196
3 HB Clark (USA) Pro 54 52 38 37 181 18 199
4 Ivan Bromage Pro 51 50 39 41 181 19 200
5 Charlie Mead Pro 49 53 43 37 182 19 201
6 Jester Wilson Pro 53 54 39 37 183 20 203
7 Tony Wakeford Pro 51 53 41 40 185 20 205
8 Tom Soper Pro 57 60 40 34 191 21 212
9 = Rich Sampson Pro 58 57 36 42 193
9 = Simon Luard Pro 55 61 38 39 193
11 Bud Tilton Pro 57 58 40 39 194
12 Trevor Bechtel Pro 57 58 42 40 197
13 Neal Pickett Pro 58 58 41 41 198
14 Ben Foxall Am 63 58 40 41 202 21 223
15 Steve Jones Am 58 56 42 45 201 23 224
16 Matt Pike Pro 61 59 42 42 204
17 Rob Capper Am 62 61 40 42 205 21 226
18 = Bruce Webber Am 59 61 43 43 206 22 228
18 = Conor Davies Pro 58 62 41 45 206
18 = Miles Clarke Pro 55 64 45 42 206
18 = John Massey Am 58 61 40 47 206 25 231
22 = Sam Massey Am 63 59 42 45 209
22 = Sue Underwood Am W 59 60 46 44 209
24 Steve Rees Am 62 67 44 39 212
25 Robin Ailes Am 61 62 46 47 216
26 Dan Massey Am 61 67 45 46 219
27 Ali Locke Am W 69 64 42 45 220
28 Ben Ayres Am 77 69 56 46 248
29 Laura Clark (USA) Am W 76 70 55 53 254
30 Neil Halliday Pro 57 58 DNF  DNF 115
31 Guy Luard Am 64 63 DNF  DNF 127
32 Gwyn Wilden Am 73 68 DNF  DNF 141
33 Oliver Luton Am J 78 65 DNF  DNF 143
34 Jon Turner Am 74 77 DNF  DNF 151
35 Dave Manning Am 83 84 DNF  DNF 167
36 Robin Johnsone Am 83 85 DNF  DNF 168
37 Ged Gray Am 87 89 DNF  DNF 176
38 Billy Ault Am 69 DNF   DNF 69*
39 James Luton Am J 105 DNF   DNF 105*
40 Rob Whitehouse Am  63 47 41 DNS 151**
41 Duncan Hartshorne Am DNS 71 40 49 DNS 160**
42 Carl Am DNS  53 47 DNS 100***




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DETAILS FOR TOUR FOUR

DATE        21st/22nd July
LOCATION    Leeds Grammar School
COST        Top 8 teams    £140
            Other Teams    £125
            Student Teams  £110

PAYMENT     Make Cheques payable to "LEEDS ULTIMATE"
            Send to:   Leeds Ulimate
                       42 Richmond Mount
                       Headingley
                       Leeds
                       LS6 1DF

There are 32 spaces available.  Camping (limited space) and food available 
on site.  Camping will be allocated by first come first serve basis once 
cheque received.

Do not mail us to request camping.  Put e-mail/tel contact with cheque.  
Once received camping will be allocated and teams will be advised.  For B&B 
accommodation see:

http://www.leeds.gov.uk/tourinfo/hotels/search.html

Search for hotels/B7B's in Headingley/Alwoodley/Moortown/Roundhay area's.

Closing date for entries is 6th July.  Any cheques received after this date 
will be returned.  Sorry to close the entry date so early, but we are going 
to prague we need to organise the event B4 we go.

Other contact mail - rik.shipley@ntlworld.co.uk

Thanks

Arun/Rik
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All-

Thanks to everyone who wrote to me with info.

I'm happy to say that the 'grumblings' were, in fact, true but =
incomplete, and so I can happily gently remind teams about start times =
and how to count to 4 instead of being a real b!tch about it.

Nationals point to follow shortly.

As for other issues being brought up, I apologise for the snags that =
occured this weekend, and will do my best to get things running a bit =
more smoothly for the next event.

Again, thanks for all the input.  It's really important that everyone =
takes responsibility for what happens in the sport, including reporting =
problems.  You were all great!

nancy


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info.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm happy to say that the 'grumblings' =
were, in=20
fact, true but incomplete, and so I can happily gently remind teams =
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it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nationals point to follow =
shortly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for other issues being brought up, I =
apologise=20
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running a bit more smoothly for the next event.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Again, thanks for all the input.&nbsp; =
It's really=20
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sport,=20
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Hi
If anyone has been trying to contact me since yesterday regarding this =
tournament can you please email me at this address and not the previous =
email address.

So far I have cheques from:

Mud Culture
El Nino

Two possible entries from Edinburgh and one from Randy.  I will make a =
call on this tournament tomorrow if no others express interest or send =
cheques then I will need to cancel.

Cheers
Simon

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not the=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So far I have cheques from:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mud Culture</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Laura Pearce" <laurapearce@btinternet.com>
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Hi all
I've had some problems posting the BUF Events Reminders to britdisc, so have
included the events which I have in the diary (as of 14 June) in this
email - for further details on specific tournaments, you'll have to consult
the BUF website (www.ukultimate.com).
Hopefully, these problems will be solved shortly and a weekly reminder can
be posted.
Thanks
Laura Pearce
BUF National Director


16/17 June - Durham Hat
16/17 June - Kilkenny Tournament
23/24 June - Tour 3 - Southampton (including a women's division)
30 June/1 July - Exeter Hat
30 June/1 July - Edinburgh Co-ed (BUF Mixed Series)
30 June/1 July - British Open - DISC GOLF
6 July - Bongos Classic - DISC GOLF
7/8 July - Rumour 2001
8-15 July - European Clubs
14 July - Lurkers Tournament - CANCELLED
21 July - Hayling Hurricane - DISC GOLF
21/22 July - Tour 4 - Leeds
25/26 August - Nottingham Co-ed (BUF Mixed Series)(NB - NEW DATE)
25 August - Caledonian Open - DISC GOLF
1/2 Sept - Mixed Nationals - Portsmouth
22 Sept - Solstice 5 - DISC GOLF
6 Oct - Essex Open - DISC GOLF
27 Oct - Sheffield Beginners Tournament
27 Oct - Warwick Bears 25th Anniversary


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Hi,

In response to Laura's email about this year's disc sports calendar:

There are few changes to the remaining BDGA disc golf events this year.

Here is the latest calendar with updated disc golf events:

16/17 June - Durham Hat
16/17 June - Kilkenny Tournament
23/24 June - Tour 3 - Southampton (including a women's division)
30 June/1 July - Exeter Hat
30 June/1 July - Edinburgh Co-ed (BUF Mixed Series)
30 June/1 July - DISC GOLF - British Open, Whitcombe, Dorset- confirmed
6 July - DISC GOLF - Bongos Classic - postponed to 19 August
7/8 July - Rumour 2001
8-15 July - European Clubs
14 July - Lurkers Tournament - CANCELLED
21/22  July - DISC GOLF - 'Hurricane', Hayling Island - confirmed. The BDGA 
AGM is also taking place on the Saturday night.
21/22 July - Tour 4 - Leeds
19 August(Sunday) - DISC GOLF - Bongos 'Pro-Am Classic', Elthorne Park, 
West London + possible ULTIMATE action - date tbc
25/26 August - Nottingham Co-ed (BUF Mixed Series)(NB - NEW DATE)
25/26 August - DISC GOLF - Caledonian Open, Edinburgh - confirmed
1/2 Sept - Mixed Nationals - Portsmouth
22 Sept/23 - DISC GOLF - Solstice, Whitfield, Northumberland - confirmed
6/7 Oct - DISC GOLF - Isle Of Mull. TD to confirm if Mull will go ahead.
27 Oct - Sheffield Beginners Tournament
27 Oct - Warwick Bears 25th Anniversary

Thanks.

Richard


Useful Disc Golf Websites:
Disc Golf on the Internet - http://discgolf.co.uk
Disc Golf Photos - http://discgolfphotos.com
Disc Golf News, Reviews & Interviews - http://obmegazine.com
Golf Discs Online - http://golfdisc.co.uk
Bongos Disc Golf Club - http://bongos.discgolf.co.uk
Current British Tour Standings - http://powerstats.co.uk
British Disc Golf Association - http://bdga.org.uk


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Photos from last weekend's Quarry Park Open can be found at 
www.discgolfphotos.com
The TD's review and results in posted on www.OBmegazine.com

Richard

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Many thanks for the warm, warm welcome to the Ultimate commmunity everyone.
Very nice surprise.  Seems that there is still one pursuit out there which
isn't messed up by cliques and snobbery - yaaaayyyyy - it sounds like this
frisbee thing is gonna be fun. 

Will see some of you at Rumour by the looks of it.  Roll on 7 July.  In the
meantime huge cheers for your support, encouragement, offers of matches, and
even offers of coaching (thanks Kevin!).  I'll write to you guys
individually to save bandwidth.

Diskie-diskie!

Steve
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Due to the fact that we have received only two cheques and three other =
expressions of interest in this tournament we are unfortunately going to =
have to cancel.

Apologies to those who had expressed an interest in coming up for this =
tournament.

Could Catherine from El Nino please email me an address to return your =
cheque to.

Ed - Mud Culture's cheque will be returned to you asap.

Many thanks again.

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Apologies, I incorrectly corrected the latest disc golf event schedule on 
Britdisc

The Caledonian Open was originally confirmed for August 25/26. This has 
been brought forward and the new date is August 18/19.

I have made the changes and here is the correct calendar.

16/17 June - Durham Hat
16/17 June - Kilkenny Tournament
23/24 June - Tour 3 - Southampton (including a women's division)
30 June/1 July - Exeter Hat
30 June/1 July - Edinburgh Co-ed (BUF Mixed Series)
30 June/1 July - DISC GOLF - British Open, Whitcombe, Dorset- confirmed
6 July - DISC GOLF - Bongos Classic - postponed to 19 August
7/8 July - Rumour 2001
8-15 July - European Clubs
14 July - Lurkers Tournament - CANCELLED
21/22  July - DISC GOLF - 'Hurricane', Hayling Island - confirmed. The BDGA 
AGM is also taking place on the Saturday night.
21/22 July - Tour 4 - Leeds
18/19 August - DISC GOLF - Caledonian Open, Edinburgh - confirmed
19 August (Sunday only) - DISC GOLF - Bongos 'Pro-Am Classic', Elthorne 
Park, West London + possible ULTIMATE action - tbc
25/26 August - Nottingham Co-ed (BUF Mixed Series)(NB - NEW DATE)
1/2 Sept - Mixed Nationals - Portsmouth
22 Sept/23 - DISC GOLF - Solstice, Whitfield, Northumberland - confirmed
6/7 Oct - DISC GOLF - Isle Of Mull. TD to confirm if Mull will go ahead.
27 Oct - Sheffield Beginners Tournament
27 Oct - Warwick Bears 25th Anniversary

Have a good weekend.

Richard


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   Hello Britdisc,

        Do any of the teams going to Tour 3 in S'oton want a pick-up for the 
weekend? Cheers,

              Taz (Bears, Cyrille)




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Is there any teams in the North West, around Preston area, that are =
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Hello people,

thanks to everyone who braved the weather and came
along to whichever days of the Durham Hat 2001.  Those
who didn't - shame on you.  

You'll be pleased to hear that a Tournament Report
will be coming soon.

TFC

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PS. Mel Z - Obstikle has your winners medal.

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Hi Pete
 
Chester may be too far for you, but we are a new group that chucks a frisbee
around at 6.30 til about 8.30 on Tuesday evenings in Grosvenor Park,
Chester.  Drink afterwards in the Boathouse pub. 
 
You're more than welcome - email me off-list if you'd like directions.
 
All the best
Steve
Chuft 

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Is there any teams in the North West, around Preston area, that are
practising over the summer which I could join for a throw about?
 
Pete

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Hi all,

at the moment we (UWE) are filling in our SU forms (health 
and safety etc) and we came across a form asking us what 
the National Governing Body i.e. Britdisc have in the way 
of insuring its members during tournaments etc.  So if any 
one knows could they please respond.

Also we need to complete a risk assessment for Ultimate so 
if any one else has a standard Ultimate risk assessment 
could you please pass it on.

Many Thanks,
Sandeep (UWE).

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Frisbee, Frisbee
Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk
"University of the West of England"

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From: "Lindsay Cuthbertson" <9905064@sms.ed.ac.uk>
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Subject: 10th Edinburgh Beginners' Tourni
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Right, I know many of you have been waiting a good long time for 
this e-mail, so worry no longer.

On behalf of the ever time conscious Ro-Sham-Bo,
Announcing:
The 10th ANNUAL EDINBURGH BEGINNERS' TOURNAMENT, 
2001
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh yes, people.  We're back with a vengeance!

This year's ultimate Ultimate weekend will be taking place on the 
10th/11th of November, at the Meadowbank Sports Stadium in 
Bonnie Edinburgh.

This HUGE indoor tourni has space for 32 teams of beginners 
(players must have less than three months experience) with each 
team allowed one hat-wearing experienced 'coach' on pitch at any 
one time (prize for best head gear, of course!).

Experience hospitality Edinburgh-stylee, with accommodation for 
all teams, party venue in one of our unions and a fantastically fun 
weekend of play.  We're also planning to get discs printed up for 
this year's tournament.

Allocation of places will be pretty much on a first come, first served 
basis, but with priority being given to first teams.

Places fill up fast every year, so if you want to come 
PLEASE E-MAIL ME HERE 
and send a cheque for 95 GBP per team, made payable to 
EUUFC, to

Ro-Sham-Bo
c/o Lindsay Cuthbertson
Flat 1F2
6 Lauriston Gardens
Edinburgh
EH3 9HJ

The deadline for receipt of cheques will be Friday 26th October, two 
weeks before the tournament.  Receipts may take a while as I'm 
not likely to be around over summer.

Any questions, let me know.
Looking forward to it already,

Lindsay

President, Ro-Sham-Bo
Edinburgh University Student Ultimate



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To: "Will Biddle" <willbiddle@talk21.com>,
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Here goes.

Here is the URL for a map of how to get to Double locks and my attempt at
directions.

http://members.tripod.com/~bobdaniels0/Uriel.html

We have decided to make Saturday night a Hawaiian theme so bring your grass
skirts and outrageous shirts.

Rob Daniels
Exeter University
Uriel-Tournament Organiser
EUSAC-Boat Officer
Tel-07733152313

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From: Manchester Ultimate <ultimate@manchesteruni.org>
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Like all good student A.U.s Manchester Uni. has set us
a little task to prove that ultimate is actually a
sport, unfortunately this doesn't involve beating the
rugby team 15-0 useing only our teeth, instead we need
signed letters from other student teams stating that a
competitive sport does exist and we would be playing
in tournments. Pretty fun stuff + we need 20 of these
letters, don't ask me why, we just do.

So if you are involved in running a student team
please could you help us out and send a signed letter
to 

Dann Cleveland
1 Wentworth Pk Ave
Harborne
Birminghm
B17 9QU

Cheers 

Dann Cleveland



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Find your way onto the M27, if you are comming down on the 
M3, go onto M27 Eastbound, NOT the Docks.

Take JUNCTION 5 of the M27

At the roundabout look for the sign that says 'sports 
ground'.  If you are comming from the West (from the M3) 
this will be the FIRST LEFT turn.  If you are comming from 
the East, this will be the 3rd exit.

Here's the annoying bit: go along the road for 2-300m and 
you will see a turning on your left (STONEHAM LANE).  
This turning does not allow you to turn into it if you are 
travelling in this direction!  Solution: either turn into 
the 'Concorde Club' just past the turning, turn round, head 
back in the opposite direction and turn right into 
'Stoneham Lane'.  Or, continue along the road and you will 
come to a roundabout, go all the way round, head back in 
the opposite direction and again, take the right turn.

Go along Stoneham Lane for a few hundred metres and you 
will come across 'Wellington Sports Grounds' (Opposite 
Eastleigh football club).  If their is nowhere left to 
park, go along the road a bit further and use the 'Trojans' 
rugby club parking.

If you are travelling by train, get off at 'Southampton 
Airport Parkway' station.  This station is a stones throw 
from some of the pitches.  Taxis will NOT cost alot to get 
to the main grounds.  Though if you feel like walking, take 
a right outside the station (Not the airport side), walk 
along for a 100m or so, turn left into the sports fields, 
walk across fields towards the gap opposite, go through the 
gap, over the brook and you will end out next to the 
'Concorde Club', go down Stoneham lane to Wellington Sports 
grounds.

I shall put some sighns up to help you on your way.

Any problems, don't hesitate to give me a call:
07974 659206
02380 483078

Cheers
	Kev
 
----------------------
Kev.B
kpb298@soton.ac.uk

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Calling all former, current, (and future) WARWICK BEARS ...

The latest news about the 25th anniversary is that the fields and pavilion
have been booked for the daytime activities on the Saturday 27 October. For
the evening entertainment we have reserved enough space in one of the
Chesford Grange banquetting halls to seat between 200 and 400 people!

Please check out the latest news by visiting the NEW website or, even
better, joining the DISCUSSION group!

website	address		http://www.warwick.ac.uk/staff/D.P.Neilson/bears25/

discussion group	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old_bears


Looking forward to seeing you all in October ...

Sammy

Sam Neilson
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Priory Road
Kenilworth CV8 1SB
England

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Anyone practising over the Summer in Manchester. I'm stuck there for 10 
weeks and need to keep sharp especially building up to T4.

Cheers

Carl
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One lively, conversational, humourous Jedi looking for a lift to Tour 3 from
Hammersmith [no, it isn't me]

If anyone is willing to exchange space in the car for some petrol money,
please let me know.

Cheers

Rich

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Britdisc

There has been alot of wondering about practices within the northwest =
(manchester) so here it is
Fingers 6 and Chevron practice together at Fog Lane Park in Didsbury =
every Sunday
from 12pm - 4pm+  (tournaments may reduce numbers on appropriate =
weekends)
Also Fingers 6 have indoor practices during term time on friday evenings =
5-7 at the Didsbury campus sports hall.

Si b.
Chevy

please feel free to contact myself if further details or directions are =
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Is it worth referring them to BUSA ?
Get them to look up the application for approval/recognition...

Or might that do more harm than good ?

Tue, 19 Jun 2001, by Manchester Ultimate <mailto:ultimate@manchesteruni.
org>;
 Subject: please help
>Like all good student A.U.s Manchester Uni. has set us
>a little task to prove that ultimate is actually a
>sport, unfortunately this doesn't involve beating the
>rugby team 15-0 useing only our teeth, instead we need
>signed letters from other student teams stating that a
>competitive sport does exist and we would be playing
>in tournments. Pretty fun stuff + we need 20 of these
>letters, don't ask me why, we just do.

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Given that Ultimate is not a BUSA recognised sport that is probably not the
best solution. It may be worth asking someone nice at the BUF to write a
letter, probably the student coordinator (Tim Blair tim@badpen.com). If you
are going to tour 3 he will be there, playing for Point Blank and hanging
round with Mwnci See as well.

Also, it probably can't do any harm to give them a copy of the WFDF (World
Flying Disc Federation) ultimate rules to show that we have them
(http://www.wfdf.org/2001ultirules.htm).

Good luck, I'll try and get our president to send you a letter, if you do
not have luck with getting the letters, it may be wise to e-mail clubs
directly, you will probably get a better response, after all, us students
are supposed to lazy... :o)

Alex Livingstone

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<html><DIV>Dear All,</DIV>
<DIV>June 16th and 17th saw the first Kilkenny Ultimate tournament take place in Kilkenny College, and the results were as follows.</DIV>
<DIV>1 Fever</DIV>
<DIV>2 Bloom Raider (aka Nicole´s Team)</DIV>
<DIV>3 Craic (Dublin EUCC team)</DIV>
<DIV>4 Purple Haze</DIV>
<DIV>5 Jedi</DIV>
<DIV>6 Loretto Navan (Spirit winners)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Firstly let me thank all thy teams and players who travelled to Kilkenny for their efforts in getting there. We had players from as far away as Germany and South Africa and we even found an ultimate player who lived in Kilkenny.</DIV>
<DIV>Teams began arriving on Thursday and Friday with plenty of Guinness, Kilkenny and Smithwicks flowing for anyone who was thirsty. Play began on saturday morning with round-robin competition. At the end of this Fever emerged unbeaten despite a great fight back by Craic and a very close finish against Nicole´s Team.</DIV>
<DIV>Saturday night saw a civic reception for the players hosted by the Mayor of Kilkenny in City Hall, with a bit of the history of the location and a few free beers to go around. This was also the opportunity to indulge in a few comedy photos using the ceremonial sword and mace as props. </DIV>
<DIV>A rather generous lie-in on sunday morning was enjoyed by all with sore heads, before the semis, which saw Fever and Nicole´s Team through to the final, and what was sure to be another tense game. The sun even came out (yes, the sun does occasionly shine in Ireland. I believe it last happened in 1978). In the end Fever won, but I suspect that injuries and fatigue on Nicole´s team added to the winning margin.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Well, that was the end of the tournament which had many highlights on and off the pitch. One thing that stood out for me was the amount of improvement that seen in the team from Loretto Navan. They started the weekend as a juniour girls team that had never played a competitive game but improved massively over the weekend. I´d like to thank everyone who played them and coached over the course of the tourney.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As for next year? Well, maybe....</DIV>
<DIV>Ian aka Jazz&nbsp;</DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a href="http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<br></p></html>

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The venue have revealed that they really don't know what's going on at
their end, and that we may not be able to hold an event there at all.
Then again, maybe it'll all work out...

We're quite seriously looking for alternative venues - despite the
aesthetic risks.

Whatever, it sounds like Ross-on-Somewhere 2001 will be a last-minute
affair - Watch this space!

Wayne
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Anybody out there know what the format for Tour3 is (Top 8, Top16.........)?

And is the assumption 9am Captains meeting, 9:30 games correct?

Aram

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Kev.B [SMTP:kpb298@soton.ac.uk]
> Sent:	19 June 2001 13:44
> To:	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject:	Directions to Tour 3
> 
> Find your way onto the M27, if you are comming down on the 
> M3, go onto M27 Eastbound, NOT the Docks.
> 
> Take JUNCTION 5 of the M27
> 
> At the roundabout look for the sign that says 'sports 
> ground'.  If you are comming from the West (from the M3) 
> this will be the FIRST LEFT turn.  If you are comming from 
> the East, this will be the 3rd exit.
> 
> Here's the annoying bit: go along the road for 2-300m and 
> you will see a turning on your left (STONEHAM LANE).  
> This turning does not allow you to turn into it if you are 
> travelling in this direction!  Solution: either turn into 
> the 'Concorde Club' just past the turning, turn round, head 
> back in the opposite direction and turn right into 
> 'Stoneham Lane'.  Or, continue along the road and you will 
> come to a roundabout, go all the way round, head back in 
> the opposite direction and again, take the right turn.
> 
> Go along Stoneham Lane for a few hundred metres and you 
> will come across 'Wellington Sports Grounds' (Opposite 
> Eastleigh football club).  If their is nowhere left to 
> park, go along the road a bit further and use the 'Trojans' 
> rugby club parking.
> 
> If you are travelling by train, get off at 'Southampton 
> Airport Parkway' station.  This station is a stones throw 
> from some of the pitches.  Taxis will NOT cost alot to get 
> to the main grounds.  Though if you feel like walking, take 
> a right outside the station (Not the airport side), walk 
> along for a 100m or so, turn left into the sports fields, 
> walk across fields towards the gap opposite, go through the 
> gap, over the brook and you will end out next to the 
> 'Concorde Club', go down Stoneham lane to Wellington Sports 
> grounds.
> 
> I shall put some sighns up to help you on your way.
> 
> Any problems, don't hesitate to give me a call:
> 07974 659206
> 02380 483078
> 
> Cheers
> 	Kev
>  
> ----------------------
> Kev.B
> kpb298@soton.ac.uk
> 

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All,

The tour format is as per a normal tour, as per T2.

I'm scheduling the first games for 9:30, but couldn't say the captains meeting will be at 9:00 (but seems a good guess)

Also, could any one tell who the following teams are:
NDY?
Jonny Bodgers ultimate team?

Never heard of them - need to seed them.

Mail me both here and at work (chughes@chelt.ac.uk) ASAP

Chris Hughes
DoC

----------
From: 	Flores, Aram[SMTP:aflores@lehman.com]
Sent: 	21 June 2001 11:26
To: 	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: 	RE: Directions to Tour 3

Anybody out there know what the format for Tour3 is (Top 8, Top16.........)?

And is the assumption 9am Captains meeting, 9:30 games correct?

Aram

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Kev.B [SMTP:kpb298@soton.ac.uk]
> Sent:	19 June 2001 13:44
> To:	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject:	Directions to Tour 3
> 
> Find your way onto the M27, if you are comming down on the 
> M3, go onto M27 Eastbound, NOT the Docks.
> 
> Take JUNCTION 5 of the M27
> 
> At the roundabout look for the sign that says 'sports 
> ground'.  If you are comming from the West (from the M3) 
> this will be the FIRST LEFT turn.  If you are comming from 
> the East, this will be the 3rd exit.
> 
> Here's the annoying bit: go along the road for 2-300m and 
> you will see a turning on your left (STONEHAM LANE).  
> This turning does not allow you to turn into it if you are 
> travelling in this direction!  Solution: either turn into 
> the 'Concorde Club' just past the turning, turn round, head 
> back in the opposite direction and turn right into 
> 'Stoneham Lane'.  Or, continue along the road and you will 
> come to a roundabout, go all the way round, head back in 
> the opposite direction and again, take the right turn.
> 
> Go along Stoneham Lane for a few hundred metres and you 
> will come across 'Wellington Sports Grounds' (Opposite 
> Eastleigh football club).  If their is nowhere left to 
> park, go along the road a bit further and use the 'Trojans' 
> rugby club parking.
> 
> If you are travelling by train, get off at 'Southampton 
> Airport Parkway' station.  This station is a stones throw 
> from some of the pitches.  Taxis will NOT cost alot to get 
> to the main grounds.  Though if you feel like walking, take 
> a right outside the station (Not the airport side), walk 
> along for a 100m or so, turn left into the sports fields, 
> walk across fields towards the gap opposite, go through the 
> gap, over the brook and you will end out next to the 
> 'Concorde Club', go down Stoneham lane to Wellington Sports 
> grounds.
> 
> I shall put some sighns up to help you on your way.
> 
> Any problems, don't hesitate to give me a call:
> 07974 659206
> 02380 483078
> 
> Cheers
> 	Kev
>  
> ----------------------
> Kev.B
> kpb298@soton.ac.uk
> 

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BD,

I'm off to Prague in two and a bit weeks to play for BAF in the Mixed
division of European clubs and I'm trying to sort out some travel
insurance.

So far I've rang a number of insurance companies - all of whom are UNABLE
to cover me for medical expenses because:
- Ultimate is the primary reason for my trip
- I'll be participating in an competitve organised activity
- They don't know what I'm talking about

Does anyone out there know of any company that will cover me ?

Balti
BAF 34

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The captains meeting will be at 8:50am due to the sole 
reason that Tour 3 is being held at 2 sites.  They are not 
far apart but this just makes sure games start on time.
Cheers
	Kev

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:34:58 +0100 Chris Hughes 
<cjhughes@talk21.com> wrote:

> All,
> 
> The tour format is as per a normal tour, as per T2.
> 
> I'm scheduling the first games for 9:30, but couldn't say the captains meeting will be at 9:00 (but seems a good guess)
> 
> Also, could any one tell who the following teams are:
> NDY?
> Jonny Bodgers ultimate team?
> 
> Never heard of them - need to seed them.
> 
> Mail me both here and at work (chughes@chelt.ac.uk) ASAP
> 
> Chris Hughes
> DoC
> 
> ----------
> From: 	Flores, Aram[SMTP:aflores@lehman.com]
> Sent: 	21 June 2001 11:26
> To: 	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: 	RE: Directions to Tour 3
> 
> Anybody out there know what the format for Tour3 is (Top 8, Top16.........)?
> 
> And is the assumption 9am Captains meeting, 9:30 games correct?
> 
> Aram
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Kev.B [SMTP:kpb298@soton.ac.uk]
> > Sent:	19 June 2001 13:44
> > To:	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > Subject:	Directions to Tour 3
> > 
> > Find your way onto the M27, if you are comming down on the 
> > M3, go onto M27 Eastbound, NOT the Docks.
> > 
> > Take JUNCTION 5 of the M27
> > 
> > At the roundabout look for the sign that says 'sports 
> > ground'.  If you are comming from the West (from the M3) 
> > this will be the FIRST LEFT turn.  If you are comming from 
> > the East, this will be the 3rd exit.
> > 
> > Here's the annoying bit: go along the road for 2-300m and 
> > you will see a turning on your left (STONEHAM LANE).  
> > This turning does not allow you to turn into it if you are 
> > travelling in this direction!  Solution: either turn into 
> > the 'Concorde Club' just past the turning, turn round, head 
> > back in the opposite direction and turn right into 
> > 'Stoneham Lane'.  Or, continue along the road and you will 
> > come to a roundabout, go all the way round, head back in 
> > the opposite direction and again, take the right turn.
> > 
> > Go along Stoneham Lane for a few hundred metres and you 
> > will come across 'Wellington Sports Grounds' (Opposite 
> > Eastleigh football club).  If their is nowhere left to 
> > park, go along the road a bit further and use the 'Trojans' 
> > rugby club parking.
> > 
> > If you are travelling by train, get off at 'Southampton 
> > Airport Parkway' station.  This station is a stones throw 
> > from some of the pitches.  Taxis will NOT cost alot to get 
> > to the main grounds.  Though if you feel like walking, take 
> > a right outside the station (Not the airport side), walk 
> > along for a 100m or so, turn left into the sports fields, 
> > walk across fields towards the gap opposite, go through the 
> > gap, over the brook and you will end out next to the 
> > 'Concorde Club', go down Stoneham lane to Wellington Sports 
> > grounds.
> > 
> > I shall put some sighns up to help you on your way.
> > 
> > Any problems, don't hesitate to give me a call:
> > 07974 659206
> > 02380 483078
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 	Kev
> >  
> > ----------------------
> > Kev.B
> > kpb298@soton.ac.uk
> > 
> 

----------------------
Kev.B
kpb298@soton.ac.uk

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Hey BD,

I'm looking for a team that would be willing to pick up my 14 year old cousin for tour 3. He is a complete begginer but has recently been getting very interested in Ultimate and I want to try and get him to a tournament.

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Looks like we have seven teams so the tournament will be a round robin
format. Captain's meeting at 9:15 on Sat. First game 10am.

Looking forward to seeing everyone!

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Dear All

I am very sorry to have to inform you of the death of Andrew Perkins aka =
Beak. He played for Druids, Scorpions and Tetragrammaton (yes the Old =
Druids) from about 1981 to 1992 when he was diagnosed with cancer and =
had a lung removed. He has been fighting to survive ever since never =
loosing his incredible sense of humour or his positive outlook on the =
world. Beak and Paul Macer-Wright are the people you can thank for the =
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me how to play.=20

He passed away early on Monday morning 18th June 2001 at 39 years of age =
leaving his wife Julie and his children Nicola, 11 and  James, 8. The =
funeral is in Milford Haven on Saturday 23rd June at 1.45pm. Anybody who =
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Hi All,

Change of plan.  If you are intending to come to the Beginners 
tournament in November, please e-mail me to let me know, but do 
not send cheques until the beginning of next term 
(September/October-ish).

This gives a chance for those teams not on e-mail over Summer to 
hear about the tournament. (So places will be confirmed next term 
on receipt of cheques).

Sorry for the mix up.
Enjoy Summer,

Lindsay
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p.s.  If you've already sent cheques, don't worry.  The enthusiasm 
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From: "Ali Topping" <atopping@hotmail.com>
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Hey hey britdisc.

Is there anyone out there who's going to southampton either tomorrow,
Friday night or saturday morning that could give a lift to a junior (ie
myself) to southampton? i can get to the M6 junction 13 amd 14 if that will
help, but any ideas and help would be gratefully appreciated. petrol money
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Ali
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Hi All,

If you want a pair of Size 8 Dita Turf Shoes then come and see me at a forth 
coming tournament or email me. I've played one day in them, but found them a 
little too big for my small feet. Anyway, I'm not going to use them again so 
if you need some new shoes and you haven't got the money for a new pair of 
turf shoes make me an offer (cheap pounds).
See you later

Possum
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Hi

Im looking to pick up at tour 3.  Please give me a call on my mobile 077 
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Just out of curiosity really... Has anyone ever tried playing Ultimate
whilst ice-skating?

I've got this kind of half-baked idea that it might be a good laugh (if
maybe involving a bit more travelling and contact than regular ultimate),
and whether anyone had done it before and/or thought about appropriate rule
changes etc...

If anyone near Birmingham / Coventry is interested in having a go at this
sometime (being able to skate to some degree is probably helpful!), let me
know, and I'll see if we can build up enough people to make booking a rink
for an hour seem feasible.

Ta,
    Ralf.


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Wasn't there some half-baked effort called "Ice-Warriors" (TV show like
Gladiators only on ice) that actually did this?

As I recall there were two teams of four players and two goals and this
weird aerobie-type thing with foam rubber in the middle to slow it down
a bit and was played as a cross between touch-tackle rugby and
Ultimate.  Fun stuff, maybe the WFDF would approve?  Mountain bikes can
do it, I reckon ice should too.  This effort on roller blades might make
it a little more accessible to those of us without ice..

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Just wanted to say a few words regarding the weekend.

Over all a fantastic weekend (Thank you Maria), and a closer than I would have liked final (thank you Mavis!).

The one complain I had at the weekend was with the schedule. I don't know how this effected other teams but with Bliss, we were caught with 3 games in a row, the last one being our semi. This may need juggleing before any other Tours.

Appart from that lovely weather, fantactic sprit and nice to see so many women playing... lets make sure it happens again.

cheers Hannah (Bliss)

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Sorry to bother everyone with this, but could Matt from Angels get in touch
with me please

Ta
Colin
Hammerage

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Rumour - we have fifteen beautiful teams - this leaves us with one place to
fill - do you want it?  Come drink and play in Oxford..

Did I mention the drag party?

Milky - TeamShark

www.TeamShark.co.uk 
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p.s. - If you want it - confirm today

And then do all the admin 

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Please note that there is a player fee for £10, payable on the day. This
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ok to everyone comming to the Hat

Entry will be between 9:00 and 9;30 Aim is to start the first game at 10:00

Games will be 45 minutes long unless you all fell like hour long games.

Looking forward to seeing you all there

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Hi,

Is anybody travelling down to Oxford Rumour tournament next weekend from =
up north - around the Darlington/Durham/Leeds area?  If you are and you =
have a space for 1 person, I would really appreciate it if you could get =
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Thanks!

Emma
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If you are coming - 

Yes the rumours are true - there will be a drag party (on the Saturday) -
and yes there will be prizes.

Each team has to enter at least one Drag Queen into the first ever UK
Ultimate Beauty Pageant.  

Big hair, Big Shoes, Big Lips will be valued highly - but it is really up to
you - you may decide to go for the Audrey Hepburn 'little black dress' look
or the 'Priscilla Queen of the Desert' thing -

We, the judges will be fair and true voting on style, walking ability and
natural beauty.

Be bold and gay

Rumour 2001

Gentlemen - you may want to work on your Catwalking ability.

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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk  Mon Jun 25 18:47:37 2001
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On Sunday at the tour, I parked my red 106 at the bottom end of the car park 
(the opposite end from the door to the sports center). It would seem that 
sometime between 4:30pm and 6:00pm (I think)someone drove into the side of 
my car causing VERY major damage. The person who did this just drove away 
leaving the mess and NOT leaving a note. I am presuming that this person was 
in a rush and is planning to contact me via britdisc to sort this out.

If anybody was in the car park towards the end of the tournament, and did 
hear or see this person drive into my car could they please contact me via 
e-mail or phone 07929 634371 to help me out. Because the Ultimate community 
is quite small, it would do to tell me the make (approx) and colour of the 
vehicle OR if you could recognize the face of the driver you could point 
them out to me at the next tournament.

I seriously hope that the Ultimate player who drove into my car IS planning 
to come forward and doesn't have to be caught by some detective work (I can 
work out the approx colour and poss the height of the vehicle from the hugh 
crater that they have left in my car).!!!

Hope to here from the unlucky driver (or anyone else) soon

L8RS

Ben
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All,

This is the final roster for Blue Arse Flies (GB Mixed) for EUCC 2001 in
Prague. It is unchanged from the most recent one sent to the EUCC
organising committee).

I have CCed it to Britdisc on the request of the BUF to allow it to be open
to peer review - I think the fundamental aim of this being that if anyone
believes any of the below players do not meet the eligibility requirements
they should say so sooner rather than later.

Roster:
   Nadya Hewitson
   Sarah Pocklington
   Jo Vokes
   Sarah Kirwan
   Sue Underwood
   Vicky Payne
   Isla Ford
   James 'Balti' Hewitson
   Chris Hughes
   Stu Clark
   Richie Smart
   James 'Spider' Smalley
   Duncan Pocklington
   Paul Thornton
   Mark 'KC' Taylor

Guest:
   Beth Stranks

Balti
BAF 34

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1	Alex	Bowers
2	Aram 	Flores
3	Bradley	Hibbard
4	Doug	Milne
5	Guy	Bowles
6	Jamie	Helmer
7	Mark	Perryman
8	Mark	McDonald
9	Pete	Harvey
10	Roger	Thomson
11	Sam	Webber
12	Si	Hill
13	Gary	Jarvis
14	Viliam	Holicka
15	Alex	Evans
16	James	Murphy
17	Rik	Atkins
18	Sasha	Dall
19	Steve	Balls (INJ)
20	Jon	Palmer


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All,

This is the final roster for Blue Arse Flies (GB Mixed) for EUCC 2001 in
Prague. It is unchanged from the most recent one sent to the EUCC
organising committee).

I have CCed it to Britdisc on the request of the BUF to allow it to be open
to peer review - I think the fundamental aim of this being that if anyone
believes any of the below players do not meet the eligibility requirements
they should say so sooner rather than later.

Roster:
   Nadya Hewitson
   Sarah Pocklington
   Jo Vokes
   Sarah Kirwan
   Sue Underwood
   Vicky Payne
   Isla Ford
   James 'Balti' Hewitson
   Chris Hughes
   Stu Clark
   Richie Smart
   James 'Spider' Smalley
   Duncan Pocklington
   Paul Thornton
   Mark 'KC' Taylor

Guest:
   Beth Stranks

Balti
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I'm intending to drive down to Exeter Friday night from St Albans, and would
really rather not be the only person in the car [four million empty seats on
the road every weekend and all], so was hoping to do my bit for the
environment and find people to fill a seat or two.

While I'm here - did anyone pick up a red Sigg water bottle at the weekend?
Last I remember it was up by pitch 7, though I might have left it by the one
of the women's games.

Cheers,

Rich, Jedi 

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Hi Britdisc
Is there a media/IT expert out there who can supply me with a short piece of 
good ultimate action to incorporate into a power point presentation I am 
making later this year (sports medicine lecture)...please!
Thanks
Paul Marfleet
marfleet11@aol.com

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<BR>Is there a media/IT expert out there who can supply me with a short piece of 
<BR>good ultimate action to incorporate into a power point presentation I am 
<BR>making later this year (sports medicine lecture)...please!
<BR>Thanks
<BR>Paul Marfleet
<BR>marfleet11@aol.com</FONT></HTML>

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Just a little feeler to see if there is anyone in the
North Dorset/Salisbury area who wants to have a bit of a
throw about sometime, or anyone who knows of any teams in
the region.

If this applies to anyone, I would love to hear from you.

Cheers guys

Steve

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For your attention

Milk
TeamShark

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick van der Valk [mailto:patrick@beachultimate.org]
Sent: 26 June 2001 13:09
To: patrick@beachultimate.org
Subject: From Bar do Peixe to a world Beach Ultimate organization


Dear Bar do Peixe fan,

Five years ago, when we started our tournament in Portugal, we never thought
Beach Ultimate would become so popular. Now, together with many other
tournaments in the world we set up a formal Beach Ultimate organization:
BULA - the Beach Ultimate Lovers Association.

We laid all the ground work in the last few months and now we are ready to
expand BULA. What I would like you to do is to help us out a little bit...

Would you be so kind as to send this news to your teammates, mailing lists,
and any other contacts you have? We are looking for people that can spare
some time and help with the growth of Beach Ultimate. To apply for a
position within BULA, or for more information you can visit our website:

http://www.beachultimate.org

The deadline to apply is Sunday 8 July. If you have any other questions,
contact me: mailto:patrick@beachultimate.org


Keep 'em flying!

 B U     Patrick van der Valk
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Hi,

Can anyone tell me approx. how many teams and players play Ultimate in the UK?

Is the sport growing in the UK, if yes, what's the growth rate?

Can anyone recommend a website that will show me demographics on Ultimate 
participation worldwide?

Many thanks

Richard

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www.discgolf.co.uk/open

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Chevron Action Flash: EUCC 2001 

Adam Milner
Adam Thirkell
Ben Mitchell
Chris Hebert
Dave Grayson
Harry Golby
Jack Goolden
Jaimie Rogers
Jeff Jackson
Steve Kennedy
Rob Mitchell
Sam Neilson
Simon Weeks
Stu Mitchell
Paul Atkins
Jesper Snorgaard




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Hi there

I will be at double locks on friday night for anyone who is planning on
arriving then.

Rob Daniels
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The following teams have been entered for T4. There are a max of 28 spaces.

Leeds Leeds Leeds
Mild Mannered Janitors
Headrush
Jedi Children
Slipdisc
Hammerage
Night Fever
Unpocoloco
Red
Whey
Fusion
Trigger Happy
BAF
Team Shark
Smash n Grab
Chevron
Strange Blue
NDY
Flight Club
Druids
plus 6 womens teams

Therefore 2 spaces left!!! - Looks like a non Clapham final!!!!

If you haven't sent a cheque send it to

42 Richmond Mount
Headingley
Leeds
LS6 1DF

Make payable to - Leeds Ultimate.

Camping on site is full so you have to sort your own accommodation out.

Don't send me anymore messages about how your cheque is in the post just 
post it.

Come on you non Clapham teams - the balls in your court!!!

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Hi all,

Just to echo thanks to Maria for organising the women's tour at Southampton. 
The participation of so many women and teams does an enormous amount to 
further the development of the women's game at a higher level.

I have a few points which I'd like to make. These are personal and do not 
reflect my team, and are not intended in any way as criticism to the 
tournament director - who I thought put on a fantastic tournament.

1 - It was a shame that the women's games were relegated to the furthest 
pitches. I appreciate there may be scheduling problems, but it doesn't 
really promote a marganalised area of Ultimate. At the same time I'm sure 
you could ask why lower ranked teams are almost always consistently on the 
far pitches. It certainly can't be an arguement of standard of pitch because 
EVERY team that competes is entitled to the same quality of ground.

2 - It was in my view a real shame that the women's final was scheduled to 
start during the men's final. The fact we had to play on far fields was 
perhaps an unfortunate conflict of scheduling, but facts remain that a) very 
few women saw the women's final b) very few other players saw the final - 
(apart from a very well represented Chevvy).

3 - I'm not asking for a sympathy vote with women's ultimate. I'm saying we 
need to promote the sport by raising our profile and this involves 
encouraging both women's and co-ed games.
I recently spent a year in Australia where it is standard on the Saturday 
evening to have a display game of womens and/or co-ed. The standard of 
support (from ALL players) out there is extremely high, and the game is well 
supported and very competitive. People actually sit down with beers to watch 
and cheer on! - I don't expect many players at Tour 3 could even name 4 or 
more of the women's teams competing.

4 - The development of the Tour is fantastic for open ultimate, but hasn't 
done much for women's as yet, and I think it is crucial that the women's 
game completes its integration into this event and gets recognition and 
support from all players, just the same as co-ed and juniors continue to 
grow. In recent years women players have done a fantastic amount to promote 
the sport - Tara Jewell, Laura Pearce, Mavis organisers, student women...the 
list goes on..and if I haven't named you - sorry!!!

5 - And my last bit of crapping on - The final, since nothing was really 
mentioned of it. A hotly contested game between Mavis and Bliss, with some 
players from both teams going to Prague. Some fantastic play, hard running, 
with Bliss narrowly winning. Many thanks to Mavis for a great game.

Diana
Bliss
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Diana wrote:
> The [women's] final, since nothing was really mentioned of it.... 

With respect, nothing's been mentioned of anything.  In fact the exiles
among us could already have pieced together from Hannah's message that Bliss
beat Mavis in the women's final.  I still don't know who played in the Open
final (though I have my suspicions that it could just have easily played on
Clapham Common rather than Southampton...?).  But I did find out that
Albatross won 6 out of 6, and came....21st, which was nice.  

Can anyone fill in the blanks, both in the Open and Women's?  

(And while you're at it, anyone know/care whether there should be an
apostrophe in "Womens"...always wondered....?)

Cheers
Wayne
Team 42, Germany


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Hi all,

Just to echo thanks to Maria for organising the women's tour at Southampton.

The participation of so many women and teams does an enormous amount to 
further the development of the women's game at a higher level.

I have a few points which I'd like to make. These are personal and do not 
reflect my team, and are not intended in any way as criticism to the 
tournament director - who I thought put on a fantastic tournament.

1 - It was a shame that the women's games were relegated to the furthest 
pitches. I appreciate there may be scheduling problems, but it doesn't 
really promote a marganalised area of Ultimate. At the same time I'm sure 
you could ask why lower ranked teams are almost always consistently on the 
far pitches. It certainly can't be an arguement of standard of pitch because

EVERY team that competes is entitled to the same quality of ground.

2 - It was in my view a real shame that the women's final was scheduled to 
start during the men's final. The fact we had to play on far fields was 
perhaps an unfortunate conflict of scheduling, but facts remain that a) very

few women saw the women's final b) very few other players saw the final - 
(apart from a very well represented Chevvy).

3 - I'm not asking for a sympathy vote with women's ultimate. I'm saying we 
need to promote the sport by raising our profile and this involves 
encouraging both women's and co-ed games.
I recently spent a year in Australia where it is standard on the Saturday 
evening to have a display game of womens and/or co-ed. The standard of 
support (from ALL players) out there is extremely high, and the game is well

supported and very competitive. People actually sit down with beers to watch

and cheer on! - I don't expect many players at Tour 3 could even name 4 or 
more of the women's teams competing.

4 - The development of the Tour is fantastic for open ultimate, but hasn't 
done much for women's as yet, and I think it is crucial that the women's 
game completes its integration into this event and gets recognition and 
support from all players, just the same as co-ed and juniors continue to 
grow. In recent years women players have done a fantastic amount to promote 
the sport - Tara Jewell, Laura Pearce, Mavis organisers, student women...the

list goes on..and if I haven't named you - sorry!!!

5 - And my last bit of crapping on - The final, since nothing was really 
mentioned of it. A hotly contested game between Mavis and Bliss, with some 
players from both teams going to Prague. Some fantastic play, hard running, 
with Bliss narrowly winning. Many thanks to Mavis for a great game.

Diana
Bliss
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Bandwagon here we come:

Ian Pearmain (Every team requires a Gynga)
Ed Rodesano
Jonathan Leach
Fraser Macrae
Russell Meighan
Ben Hutchinson
Paul Eastman
Andy Thomson
Tom Bond
Jesse Spohnholz
Bryce Renwick
Jules Fennema
Graham Banton
Jamie	Wilson
James McDonald
Charles Heenan
Barry	O'Kane
Leo James
Stuart Mullinger
Sion Thaysen

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The Beard wrote:

>Bandwagon here we come:

>Ian Pearmain (Every team requires a Gynga)
>Ed Rodesano
>Charles Heenan

But no team requires 3...

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I will try to make this a little clearer than I managed at the presentation,
although I'm still not sure about 6th and 7th place, if I have them the
wrong way around someone correct me!!

Women's results

1) Bliss
2) Mavis
3) Janet Hawes
4) Fierce
5) Divalution
6) The Pink Team (Disco Inferno + pick-ups)
7) Angels

Cracking participation, amazing weather and a fantastic tournament. Thanks
to Kev who did a great job.

Maria

PS Right on Milner.... the more gingers the better!! 
> ----------
> From: 	Ziants, Wayne[SMTP:WZiants@spencerstuart.com]
> Sent: 	26 June 2001 4:17 PM
> To: 	'Britdisc'
> Cc: 	'dianaworman@hotmail.com'
> Subject: 	Open/Womens Tour
> 
> Diana wrote:
> > The [women's] final, since nothing was really mentioned of it.... 
> 
> With respect, nothing's been mentioned of anything.  In fact the exiles
> among us could already have pieced together from Hannah's message that
> Bliss
> beat Mavis in the women's final.  I still don't know who played in the
> Open
> final (though I have my suspicions that it could just have easily played
> on
> Clapham Common rather than Southampton...?).  But I did find out that
> Albatross won 6 out of 6, and came....21st, which was nice.  
> 
> Can anyone fill in the blanks, both in the Open and Women's?  
> 
> (And while you're at it, anyone know/care whether there should be an
> apostrophe in "Womens"...always wondered....?)
> 
> Cheers
> Wayne
> Team 42, Germany
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diana Worman [mailto:dianaworman@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Dienstag, 26. Juni 2001 16:55
> To: hannah.easter@philips.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Cc: beccahumphries@hotmail.com
> Subject: Womens Tour
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just to echo thanks to Maria for organising the women's tour at
> Southampton.
> 
> The participation of so many women and teams does an enormous amount to 
> further the development of the women's game at a higher level.
> 
> I have a few points which I'd like to make. These are personal and do not 
> reflect my team, and are not intended in any way as criticism to the 
> tournament director - who I thought put on a fantastic tournament.
> 
> 1 - It was a shame that the women's games were relegated to the furthest 
> pitches. I appreciate there may be scheduling problems, but it doesn't 
> really promote a marganalised area of Ultimate. At the same time I'm sure 
> you could ask why lower ranked teams are almost always consistently on the
> 
> far pitches. It certainly can't be an arguement of standard of pitch
> because
> 
> EVERY team that competes is entitled to the same quality of ground.
> 
> 2 - It was in my view a real shame that the women's final was scheduled to
> 
> start during the men's final. The fact we had to play on far fields was 
> perhaps an unfortunate conflict of scheduling, but facts remain that a)
> very
> 
> few women saw the women's final b) very few other players saw the final - 
> (apart from a very well represented Chevvy).
> 
> 3 - I'm not asking for a sympathy vote with women's ultimate. I'm saying
> we 
> need to promote the sport by raising our profile and this involves 
> encouraging both women's and co-ed games.
> I recently spent a year in Australia where it is standard on the Saturday 
> evening to have a display game of womens and/or co-ed. The standard of 
> support (from ALL players) out there is extremely high, and the game is
> well
> 
> supported and very competitive. People actually sit down with beers to
> watch
> 
> and cheer on! - I don't expect many players at Tour 3 could even name 4 or
> 
> more of the women's teams competing.
> 
> 4 - The development of the Tour is fantastic for open ultimate, but hasn't
> 
> done much for women's as yet, and I think it is crucial that the women's 
> game completes its integration into this event and gets recognition and 
> support from all players, just the same as co-ed and juniors continue to 
> grow. In recent years women players have done a fantastic amount to
> promote 
> the sport - Tara Jewell, Laura Pearce, Mavis organisers, student
> women...the
> 
> list goes on..and if I haven't named you - sorry!!!
> 
> 5 - And my last bit of crapping on - The final, since nothing was really 
> mentioned of it. A hotly contested game between Mavis and Bliss, with some
> 
> players from both teams going to Prague. Some fantastic play, hard
> running, 
> with Bliss narrowly winning. Many thanks to Mavis for a great game.
> 
> Diana
> Bliss
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Any women's teams interested in entering the women's event at Leeds tour
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The results of tour 3 are as follows:

36. Northern Roses 2
35. Skunks 2
34. Jammy Bodgers (Not Johnny bodgers...D'oh)
33. Uriel
32. Northern Roses 1
31. Trigger Happy
30. Mohawk Mwnci Magic
29. No Damn Yanks
28. Slipdisc
27. Skunks 1
26. Sublime
25. Strange Blue
24. Leicester Hustlers
23. Flyght Club
22. Jedi
21. Albatross
20. Point Blank
19. Fever
18. G.B Juniors
17. Fusion 2
16. Un Poco Loco
15. BAF Mixed
14. Whey!
13. Craic - Shield Winners
12. Hammerage
11. Headrush
10. Smash'n'Grab
9.  LeedsLeedsLeeds
8.  BAF
7.  Fusion
6.  Red
5.  Team Shark - Plate Winners
4.  Clapham 1
3.  Chevron Action Flash
2.  Fluid Druids
1.  Clapham 2 - Tour 3 Winners

MVP - went to Aussie Roger from Druids

Spirit - Flyght Club

Hope everyone enjoyed the weekend, could'nt of asked for 
nicer weather really.    

The final saw Clapham 2 take a 3 point lead in the 
beginning of the game, though druids pulled it back to make 
it all square at 7-7.  Clapham took the half 9-7.  Druids 
took the first point after the half and points were then 
traded until druids lost possession and Clapham scored to 
make it 14-12.  In the latter stages of the game Clapham 
pulled away, making the final score 17-13. 

A List of lost property will be going out shortly

Cheers
	Kev

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To all teams that have been guarenteed camping on site at T4 - please note 
that you must arrive by 9.30pm.  School has timed gates - after this time no 
cars can go in or out till 7am the next day.

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Hi brit disc

I need to knnow a rough estimate of numbers of people comming to exeter this
weekend. I know some people have already told they are comming but if you
could just drop me a note again it would be cool. Just trying to get enough
food for during the day.

see you all on Friday of Saturday

everyone do their sun dance

Rob Daniels
Exeter University
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EUSAC-Boat Officer
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The following teams owe me BUF deposits for Tour events. 

If this is incorrect please email me to tell me
IF NOT send your cheques NOW!

Tour 4
------
Mild Mannered Janitors
Unpocoloco
Trigger Happy

Tour 3
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Jammy Bodgers
Uriel
Trigger Happy


Cheers

Dora Kemp
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You may remember that I wrote a message to britdisc a few days ago about 
somone driving into my car in the car park in Southampton.

I now have witnesses who tell me that it was a small blue hatchback and that 
the driver was talking on his mobile phone when he reversed into my car from 
the position where he was parked. So if you have a small blue hatchback and 
were parked at the bottom end of the carpark (the end furthest from the 
sports centre entrance on the side nearest the fields) then please respond 
to this mail.
Or were you parked next to this car and can give me more details?

In other developments, somone left a note saying sorry and leaving a mobile 
number on a white astra! when there was no damage to the astra!
Is this you? did you put a note on the wrong car! I will try to ring the 
number towards the weekend to find out.

Thanks for all your help, please e-mail the incident room at this address


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Loads of lost property from Southampton:

- Grey/ash coloured cap
- Large navy blue R.I tshirt
- orangy/pink towel
- Brown nike cap
- Beige WUC Hellbron 2000 cap
- Blue and pink hat
- grey 'malawi sport' tshirt/cardy
- Black umbro knee brace
- long sleeve black tshirt 'Mays 2000 caius VIII'
- Red H5 water bottle
- black sleeping bag, bag.
- Donnay white polo shirt
- XL Whey! t shirt
- Armless shades (found with beige cap)
- Black medium 'next' tshirt
- Size 11 umbro footy boots
- large red 'sissy boy' vest top
- black M&S wooly hat........Why!!!!
- XL white Toms tourney 'Brugge 99' Tshirt
- Blue with white pattern, bandana

If you need any of the above quickly, then sort out some 
kind of delivery.  If not I'll bring them to tour 4 in 
Leeds.

Cheers
	Kev
 

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Subject: RE: Womens Tour
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Just to let everyone know, the Leeds women's event is going ahead. There is
space for 6 teams.

So far I have entered BAF, Bliss, Mavis and Disco Inferno, so there are two
places left.

If you are interested in entering or picking up with another team please let
me know. I am contactable on this e-mail address till 4pm this evening after
that I am away till Wed. the 18th of July. If you have any queries please
contact Emma Buttle. She has been cc'ed above.

Cheers,

M

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Nadya.Hewitson@vodafone.com [mailto:Nadya.Hewitson@vodafone.com]
> Sent:	27 June 2001 10:05 AM
> To:	Maria.Cahill@uk.gases.boc.com
> Subject:	RE: Womens Tour
> 
> Maria
> 
> I am trying to get a BAF womens team together for Leeds.  Are there any
> places left and if so do I enter via you or Arum?
> 
> Nadya
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Cahill,Maria [mailto:Maria.Cahill@uk.gases.boc.com]
> 	Sent:	27 June 2001 09:11
> 	To:	'Britdisc'
> 	Subject:	Womens Tour
> 
> 	I will try to make this a little clearer than I managed at the
> presentation, although I'm still not sure about 6th and 7th place, if I
> have them the wrong way around someone correct me!!
> 
> 	Women's results
> 
> 	1) Bliss
> 	2) Mavis
> 	3) Janet Hawes
> 	4) Fierce
> 	5) Divalution
> 	6) The Pink Team (Disco Inferno + pick-ups)
> 	7) Angels
> 
> 	Cracking participation, amazing weather and a fantastic tournament.
> Thanks to Kev who did a great job.
> 
> 	Maria
> 
> 	PS Right on Milner.... the more gingers the better!! 
> 		----------
> 		From: 	Ziants, Wayne[SMTP:WZiants@spencerstuart.com]
> 		Sent: 	26 June 2001 4:17 PM
> 		To: 	'Britdisc'
> 		Cc: 	'dianaworman@hotmail.com'
> 		Subject: 	Open/Womens Tour
> 
> 		Diana wrote:
> 		> The [women's] final, since nothing was really mentioned of
> it.... 
> 
> 		With respect, nothing's been mentioned of anything.  In fact
> the exiles
> 		among us could already have pieced together from Hannah's
> message that Bliss
> 		beat Mavis in the women's final.  I still don't know who
> played in the Open
> 		final (though I have my suspicions that it could just have
> easily played on
> 		Clapham Common rather than Southampton...?).  But I did find
> out that
> 		Albatross won 6 out of 6, and came....21st, which was nice.
> 
> 
> 		Can anyone fill in the blanks, both in the Open and Women's?
> 
> 
> 		(And while you're at it, anyone know/care whether there
> should be an
> 		apostrophe in "Womens"...always wondered....?)
> 
> 		Cheers
> 		Wayne
> 		Team 42, Germany
> 
> 
> 		-----Original Message-----
> 		From: Diana Worman [mailto:dianaworman@hotmail.com] 
> 		Sent: Dienstag, 26. Juni 2001 16:55
> 		To: hannah.easter@philips.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> 		Cc: beccahumphries@hotmail.com
> 		Subject: Womens Tour
> 
> 
> 		Hi all,
> 
> 		Just to echo thanks to Maria for organising the women's tour
> at Southampton.
> 
> 		The participation of so many women and teams does an
> enormous amount to 
> 		further the development of the women's game at a higher
> level.
> 
> 		I have a few points which I'd like to make. These are
> personal and do not 
> 		reflect my team, and are not intended in any way as
> criticism to the 
> 		tournament director - who I thought put on a fantastic
> tournament.
> 
> 		1 - It was a shame that the women's games were relegated to
> the furthest 
> 		pitches. I appreciate there may be scheduling problems, but
> it doesn't 
> 		really promote a marganalised area of Ultimate. At the same
> time I'm sure 
> 		you could ask why lower ranked teams are almost always
> consistently on the 
> 		far pitches. It certainly can't be an arguement of standard
> of pitch because
> 
> 		EVERY team that competes is entitled to the same quality of
> ground.
> 
> 		2 - It was in my view a real shame that the women's final
> was scheduled to 
> 		start during the men's final. The fact we had to play on far
> fields was 
> 		perhaps an unfortunate conflict of scheduling, but facts
> remain that a) very
> 
> 		few women saw the women's final b) very few other players
> saw the final - 
> 		(apart from a very well represented Chevvy).
> 
> 		3 - I'm not asking for a sympathy vote with women's
> ultimate. I'm saying we 
> 		need to promote the sport by raising our profile and this
> involves 
> 		encouraging both women's and co-ed games.
> 		I recently spent a year in Australia where it is standard on
> the Saturday 
> 		evening to have a display game of womens and/or co-ed. The
> standard of 
> 		support (from ALL players) out there is extremely high, and
> the game is well
> 
> 		supported and very competitive. People actually sit down
> with beers to watch
> 
> 		and cheer on! - I don't expect many players at Tour 3 could
> even name 4 or 
> 		more of the women's teams competing.
> 
> 		4 - The development of the Tour is fantastic for open
> ultimate, but hasn't 
> 		done much for women's as yet, and I think it is crucial that
> the women's 
> 		game completes its integration into this event and gets
> recognition and 
> 		support from all players, just the same as co-ed and juniors
> continue to 
> 		grow. In recent years women players have done a fantastic
> amount to promote 
> 		the sport - Tara Jewell, Laura Pearce, Mavis organisers,
> student women...the
> 
> 		list goes on..and if I haven't named you - sorry!!!
> 
> 		5 - And my last bit of crapping on - The final, since
> nothing was really 
> 		mentioned of it. A hotly contested game between Mavis and
> Bliss, with some 
> 		players from both teams going to Prague. Some fantastic
> play, hard running, 
> 		with Bliss narrowly winning. Many thanks to Mavis for a
> great game.
> 
> 		Diana
> 		Bliss
> 	
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Hi everybody,

You may or may not have heard about the tournament that takes place in 
Notre-Dame-de-Monts (near Nantes) each year.  Six teams from different 
countries turn up and play a round-robin in front of a paying crowd at a 
flood-lit stadium.  You also get to teach the local kids how to play in the 
afternoon.  In exchange for this the town puts you up and to some extent 
feeds you for the tournament.  There is also NO entry fee.  This year the 
tournament is on the 1st - 4th of August and they will also be doing a disc 
golf competition as well as having a major party on the beach.  It's usually 
a blast.

I'm looking for around eight more players to make up a small squad, and we 
need to take both men and women.  If you are interested and want more info 
drop me a line at chuckaway@aol.com

Cheers

Charlie B-N (Village/Headrush)

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I am trying to get in contact with Rob Owen but the
number I have for him no longer seems to be in use. If
you are out there Rob- please phone Anna this evening,
or if anyone can pass on his new number that would be
great. Sorry to use BritDisc for this (a last resort).

Thanks,

Anna
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Dear all,

Can anyone tell me the best place to find a good selection of cleats in
London. I¹m having trouble finding anything with reasonable shock
absorption. I do use Sorbothanes, but need a little more bounce, like a Nike
Air trainer provides.

Cheers
nln

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'Soccerscene' at the bottom of Carnaby Street (nearish Oxford Cirus tube) is
pretty good. They have all the latest boots (blades, molded, hockey,
astroturf etc) and some good discounts on only slightly out-of-date ranges.
No ultimate 'cleats' as such, but I don't know anyone who still plays in
Sharks or Pitbulls.

Don't know about your extra bounce requirements either, sorry. 

l8rs
rt




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Dear all,

Can anyone tell me the best place to find a good selection of cleats in
London. I¹m having trouble finding anything with reasonable shock
absorption. I do use Sorbothanes, but need a little more bounce, like a Nike
Air trainer provides.

Cheers
nln

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Due to a last minute withdrawl there are places left for T4.  Angels & 
Monkey Magic have expressed interest - but still awaiting cheque.

Teams entered below.

LEEDS LEEDS LEEDS
DRUIDS
CHEVRON		CAMPING
BAF		CAMPING
SLIPDISC 	CAMPING
STRANGE BLUE 	CAMPING
JEDI
TEAMSHARK       CAMPING
SMASH'n'GRAB 	CAMPING
HEADRUSH
POINT BLANK
HAMMERAGE
NIGHT FEVER
UNPOCOLOCO
RED
WHEY
FUSION
TRIGGER HAPPY
CLAPHAM I
CLAPHAM II
ALBATROSS
FLIGHT CLUB
NDY
NORTHERN ROSES
MILD MANNERED JANITORS
JAMMIE DODGERS

PLUS WOMENS TEAMS

ARUN

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From: "A.J.COX" <ajc298@soton.ac.uk>
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BD,

Due to Skunks' distinct non-ability to travel more than 3 miles from 
Southampton I am without a team for T4 and would like to play.

If you want an extra player, please let me know by mailing 
andycox23@hotmail.com or calling 07968 398663

Sorry to bother those who don't care,

Angie

PS Thanks Rob, Andi and Tommy for organising Exeter Hat - you did a great job.

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Hi!

Can you let me know if there are going to be any special considerations for 
the women's division at this Tour? e.g. womens final being played before the 
mens? Times when only womens teams are playing? Is this at all feasible?

Kind regards
Di Worman



From: "arun sharma" <asharma43@hotmail.com>
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
CC: arun_s@hway.co.uk
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 12:56:34 -0000

Due to a last minute withdrawl there are places left for T4.  Angels &
Monkey Magic have expressed interest - but still awaiting cheque.

Teams entered below.

LEEDS LEEDS LEEDS
DRUIDS
CHEVRON		CAMPING
BAF		CAMPING
SLIPDISC 	CAMPING
STRANGE BLUE 	CAMPING
JEDI
TEAMSHARK       CAMPING
SMASH'n'GRAB 	CAMPING
HEADRUSH
POINT BLANK
HAMMERAGE
NIGHT FEVER
UNPOCOLOCO
RED
WHEY
FUSION
TRIGGER HAPPY
CLAPHAM I
CLAPHAM II
ALBATROSS
FLIGHT CLUB
NDY
NORTHERN ROSES
MILD MANNERED JANITORS
JAMMIE DODGERS

PLUS WOMENS TEAMS

ARUN

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Yeah, thatd be nice actually,

Clo

Diana Worman wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Can you let me know if there are going to be any special considerations for
> the women's division at this Tour? e.g. womens final being played before the
> mens? Times when only womens teams are playing? Is this at all feasible?
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> Due to a last minute withdrawl there are places left for T4.  Angels &
> Monkey Magic have expressed interest - but still awaiting cheque.
>
> Teams entered below.
>
> LEEDS LEEDS LEEDS
> DRUIDS
> CHEVRON         CAMPING
> BAF             CAMPING
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> JEDI
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Morning all...

I'm after a pair of Gray's Prima hockey boots, size 9, and the only place I
can find that's got them is Lillywhites in London...

I know it's a lot to ask, but if there's anyone around the Picadilly area at
any point who's going to Rumour this weekend, could you get in contact with
me about getting some for me, in exchange for the cost + extra/beer???

Thanks,

Tim.

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Has anybody got the address / directions to the venue for Rumour tomorrow.

I know it's at Chipping Norton Rugby Club, but I dunno if Chipping Norton is
a big place . . .

Cheers, looking forward to seeing you there.

Steve
Chuft  

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Chipping Norton Rugby Club
Greystones, Burford Road
Chipping Norton
Oxfordshire
OX7 5UY
01608 643968
[Details from yell.com]

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=431619&Y=225282&arrow=Y&
zoom=3
[Streetmap result from the postcode]

And of course if you want comprehensive directions, try either
http://www.breathe.com [input your origin & destination postcode & it'll
give you turn-by-turn directions] or http://www.rac.co.uk [which will give
you similar directions, a breakdown of how long it should take you to get
there, and maps if you're patient].

Hope that Helps

Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk

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> 
> Has anybody got the address / directions to the venue for Rumour tomorrow.
> 
> I know it's at Chipping Norton Rugby Club, but I dunno if Chipping Norton
> is
> a big place . . .
> 
> Cheers, looking forward to seeing you there.
> 
> Steve
> Chuft  
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Environmental Consultant
> 
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> 3 Linenhall Place
> Chester
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For those of you that are fortunate enough to be coming to RumouR 2001 this
weekend.

Sorry these have not got to you all yet but I have been unwell.

Anyway

Take a look at the URL below. We are playing at Chipping Norton Rugby Club.

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=430819&Y=226355&arrow=Y&
zoom=3

In the bottom ish right hand corner look for leisure center. This is where
the Rugby club is.

It's just off the A361 going out of Chipping Norton going towards Burford.
Camping is on the fields in front of the club house. I should be there about
6ish. The club house will be open for Friday night with music. If you make
an effort to come on Friday then we'll reward you with a FREE PINT for the
first 80 players that arrive. The bar will hopefully stay open a little
later than 11!! as it did last year.

Please don't forget that there is a players fee for this tournament so don't
for get to bring your tenner with you!!

things start at 9ish on Saturday morning.

Milky will be in contact with you all later today all being well.

Jon Copeland

TEAMSHARK
RumouR 2001 

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These are the directions that were sent out last year.  It's the same 
place this year I believe,
Pete

"All these routes lead you to Chipping Norton. Get to the town and head for
the Rugby Club - 
There will be signs to the club - it is on the outside of town

M40 Get off at junction 11 and head for Chipping Norton on the A361 - This
will take 
you all the way to Chipping Norton

Oxford Get on the A44 - stay on this road all the way to Chipping Norton.

Stratford-upon-Avon Get on the A3400 - stay on this road all the way to
Chipping Norton.

Morton in Marsh Get on the A44 (the other way) - stay on this road all the
way to Chipping Norton.

Burford Get on the A361 to Chipping Norton. The Rugby club is on right
just before you get to Chipping Norton. If you get to Chipping Norton
look over your right shoulder and you'll see the clubhouse.

When you get to Chipping Norton don't blink or you may miss it.

Take the A361 to Burford, this basically takes you straight through Chipping
Norton.
When you leave Chipping Norton on the A361 the houses end at a sharp bend in
the road.
Once around the bend (so to speak) you will be able to see the pitches and
the clubhouse. 
Take the second left and park in the car park beside the clubhouse."

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RumouR 2001

First of all a big thanks - we were told that this would not happen (it's
the first weekend of Prague!!) 

You have committed - we hope you enjoy it.

Over the next two days you are going to meet loads of players - simply
because you will play 7 games on the Saturday - but don't worry they are 25
minutes each.

There is camping all weekend - as an incentive, there is free beer (well, 85
pints of the stuff) for Friday night frolics - There rest will take care of
it self (please read below) - 

OK - This is your bible - it will tell you everything you need to know about
Rumour 2001........Directions, Food, Getting There and Away, Entertainments,
Hacky Volley, Sleeping, Drinking, Rules, Captains Meeting, Players Tickets,
How to 'do' Tequila, Prizes. (and a little mention about the Drag Party)

Directions



Getting There and Away

Car

All these routes lead you to Chipping Norton.  Get to the town and head for
the Rugby Club - There will be signs to the club - it is on the outside
(Westside) of town

M40	Get off at junction 11 and head for Chipping Norton on the A361 -
This will take you all the way to Chipping Norton

Oxford	Get on the A44 - stay on this road all the way to Chipping Norton.

Stratford-upon-Avon	Get on the A3400 - stay on this road all the way to
Chipping Norton.

Morton in Marsh 	Get on the A44 (the other way) - stay on this road
all the way to Chipping Norton.

Trains

London 	Paddington to Hereford Line - Get off the train in Kingham.  This is
2/3 miles from Chipping Norton.  You can either catch a bus (KS8) or get a
Taxi:

01608 643 721
01608 643 740
01608 643 049

Entertainments

Ultimate - All weekend, the hardest, fastest, most beautiful game in the
world, played out by the most beautiful people in Britain today.

Sundowners - The games will finish so you can have a shower get a drink and
watch the sun fall over the Cotswold's.........or watch.....

Hacky Volley - Play to win.  Two man teams will play on a small pitch as the
sun goes down.  Games to 5 (first to five wins).  Rules:  Any part of your
body can keep the Hack in the air.....EXCEPT YOUR HANDS.  Don't ask for too
much information/rules.  The word is this.  

Drag Competition - Don't hold back - there will be prizes - TeamShark will
judge - Idea's to date:  Adam Harras - Tart with a heart, Milky - Pink and
Gay

Tequila Race - Need we say more?...like a beer race with Tequila

Living Breathing and Eating

Sleeping	There will be camping, plenty of it.  There are several
places to B&B in the town - its up to you!  You will be able to camp Friday
night, but there wont be food until later in the day

Cleaning	There will be showers 24/7 and toilets.  Please use.

Eating	

Dinner (Saturday Night).  We have been told that there will be 'unlimited'
food for the Saturday evening.  Wash it down with a shot of 'T' (salt -
tequila - lemon)

Breakfast (Sunday Morning).  More food, Tea & Coffee and stuff

There will be food to buy all weekend from the Club House.  

If you want to buy some Weetabix or Milk etc, there is a shop in town.
However, it is only open until 8pm on the Saturday and NOT OPEN on the
Sunday.

Captains Meeting, Rules and Prizes

Captain Meeting	Captains meeting will be at 9:30.  This will be followed by
a players meeting (for everybody)

Rules	These will be issued at the Captains Meeting on the Saturday
morning.

Prizes	There will be prizes for everybody (ISH) - 


Other Stuff

Good Restaurants:

Anarkali, West St. - Indian Food 
Annies Country Pantry - New St 
Balcony Restaurant, Market Square - bistro style with music 
Blue Boar, Goddards Lane - 17th century a la carte restaurant 
Chequers, Goddards Lane - 17th century inn near theatre 
Cottage Tea Rooms, Horsefair 
Crown & Cushion Hotel, High St., - bar meals 
Foggies Wine Bar, Middle Row - Italian Food 
Fox Hotel, Market Place - bar meals & restaurant 
Market House, Middle Row - tea room and restaurant 
Nutters, New St. - Creperie, whole and health foods 
Peking Inn, Market St., Chinese restaurant 
White Hart Hotel "La Brasserie", High St. - chargrilled food

Live it, love it, breath it - TeamShark

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Subject: Rumour + Prague
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:59:42 +0100
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Yeeaaaah, give us directions!
Camping on site I presume.

VITO

PS. Best of british luck to all you lucky bastards going to Prague!

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if you don't care.... <DELETE> now
if you're interested, read on.


the EUCC 2001 website is at http://eucc.frisbee.cz/

I haven't checked to see if the format and schedule info is up yet (it
may well be available as MS Word files ).

There is also a results page on the website, though how regularly it
will be updated is unknown to me.

This format info (and a schedule) was emailed as MS Word file to the
team contacts - I've done my best not to get the info wrong when I've
reformatted (and resorted some divisions by seeding), but would
recommend that you don't treat this post as the gospel truth!


OPEN
7 pools of 4 [1-7 confused me later! so I renamed them as T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z]
then new pools of 7 (except for a missing team)
A = T1  W1  X1  Z2  Y2  V2  U2
B = U1  V1  Y1  Z1  X2  W2  T2

C = T3  W3  X3  Z4  Y4  V4  U4
D = U3  V3  Y3  Z3      X4  W4  

round-robin then
semis (A1 v B2, A2 v B1) and finals;
or playoffs (A3vB3 - 5Cv5D);
or something odd (C6vD6 and C7vD6)

        Country         TEAM                            Seed    Pool
Open    Finland         Liquidisc                       1       1
Open    Sweden          Skogshyddans FK - Göteborg      2       2
Open    United Kingdom  Clapham Ultimate                3       3
Open    Germany         Feldrenner Mainz                4       4
Open    Denmark         Ragnarok                        5       5
Open    The Netherlands Red Lights                      6       6
Open    Finland         Sipoo Odd Stars                 7       7
Open    Germany         Wall City Berlin                8       7
Open    Germany         MirSanZamperl                   9       6
Open    Switzerland     Flying Angels Bern (FAB)        10      5
Open    United Kingdom  Chevron Action Flash            11      4
Open    Sweden          KFUM Örebro SFMSC - Örebro      12      3
Open    Finland         Helsinki Ultimate Team          13      2
Open    United Kingdom  Fluid Druids                    14      1
Open    France          Ultimate Vibration              15      1
Open    United Kingdom  Red                             16      2
Open    Austria         Thebigez                        17      3
Open    Sweden          Stockholm Ultimate - Stockholm  18      4
Open    Germany         Searching Woodpeckers           19      5
Open    United Kingdom  Leedsleedsleeds                 20      6
Open    Spain           Patatas Bravas                  21      7
Open    Belgium         XLR8RS                          22      3
Open    Russia          Ju-Piter                        23      6
Open    Ireland         Craic                           24      5
Open    Switzerland     Dogs on Speed                   25      4
Open    United Kingdom  Fusion                          26      7
Open    Czech Republic  F.U.J.                          27      2


MIXED
round-robin in two pools of 8, then 1-8 and 9-16 play quarters, semis
and finals.

        Country         TEAM                            seed    Pool
Mixed   United Kingdom  Blue Arse Flies                 1       1
Mixed   Switzerland     Fingers                         2       2
Mixed   France          Bon Discmanche (Clac-Clac)      3       2
Mixed   Germany         Kleine Feiglinge                4       1
Mixed   Sweden          Stenungsunds FC                 5       1
Mixed   Belgium         Jet Set                         6       2
Mixed   United Kingdom  Strange Blue                    7       2
Mixed   Austria         Upsadaisy                       8       1
Mixed   Germany         Endzonis                        9       2
Mixed   Czech republic  Prague Devils                   10      2
Mixed   Belgium         Osmosis                         11      1
Mixed   Italy           Y'N Milano                      12      1
Mixed   Germany         Saxy Divers                     13      2
Mixed   France          OUF                             14      2
Mixed   Italy           CUS - Bologna                   15      1
Mixed   Latvia          FrisBeerClub                    16      1


WOMEN
round-robin of 8 teams, followed by quarters, semis and finals

        Country         TEAM                            seed    Pool
Women   United Kingdom  Bliss                           1       1
Women   Finland         Atletico                        2       1
Women   The Netherlands Red Lights                      3       1
Women   Finland         Discus                          4       1
Women   Finland         Espoo Ultimate Club             5       1
Women   Germany         Milder Norden                   6       1
Women   Austria         Yahoo                           7       1
Women   Russia          Russi Blini-Some like it        8       1


JUNIORS 
two rounds round-robin, semis and finals

                Country         seed    pool
Juniors boys    Sweden          1       1
Juniors boys    Finland         2       1
Juniors boys    UK              3       1
Juniors boys    France          4       1



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Car

All these routes lead you to Chipping Norton.  Get to the town and head for
the Rugby Club - There will be signs to the club - it is on the outside
(Westside) of town

M40	Get off at junction 11 and head for Chipping Norton on the A361 -
This will take you all the way to Chipping Norton

Oxford	Get on the A44 - stay on this road all the way to Chipping Norton.

Stratford-upon-Avon	Get on the A3400 - stay on this road all the way to
Chipping Norton.

Morton in Marsh 	Get on the A44 (the other way) - stay on this road
all the way to Chipping Norton.

Trains

London 	Paddington to Hereford Line - Get off the train in Kingham.  This is
2/3 miles from Chipping Norton.  You can either catch a bus (KS8) or get a
Taxi:

01608 643 721
01608 643 740
01608 643 049

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Yeeaaaah, give us directions!
Camping on site I presume.

VITO

PS. Best of british luck to all you lucky bastards going to Prague!

Adriano Vitali
PTC Technical Support
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<html><DIV>Has anyone got a pair of GB rugby socks (navy with the white band at the top) that they can lend me for Prague? The smaller the better....but beggars can't be chosers!</DIV>
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and I'm away in Prague for a week or so, so can't answer any more
questions for the time being.

Wayne
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Chuft came, saw and popped its tournament cherry at Rumour last weekend.  

We all had a suberb time and enjoyed a very respectable placing to boot.
Cheers to the organisers and anybody we played against - thanks for the
experience guys.  Now we want more!!  

I was chatting to somebody who mentioned that a tournie might be happening
in in Glastonbury at some stage.  Couldn't find any details on the BUF pages
- anyone know anything about it??   

Cheers
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Hi all,

Some poor person went home yesterday keyless.

Mail me if they're yours!!

Also some other items of lost property which I'll try and list tomorrow or
Wednesday.

Jon

TeamShark
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P.S. Thanks for your patients at the weekend. Hope you all had a good time?


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Everyone who was at RumouR,

Did any of you pick up a bag of new Skunks discs by mistake? I left them in 
the bar area by the windows. There were 6 left (I think) in a white plastic 
bag.

Please let me know ASAP if you know of there whereabouts as I'll have to pay 
Skunks back myself if they're not found!

Thanks in advance,

Angie
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Dear All

>From naked Ultimate in the rain, to drag queens with great attitude - thanks
to everybody who made it to Rumour and stuck with us throughout the rain - A
huge thanks goes to all the players who made the spirit of the Tournament
fun and sexy - the Drag Queens were awesome - 

Spirit - Smash and Grab - Superb spirit and party spirit all weekend

Winners - BAF - After a nervous start they kicked some TeamShark butt!!!
(yes, it still hurts!!)

Hacky Volley - Lee Noble and Dell Smart  AKA - Something?!?!

Beauty Pageant - A sexy tennis star

Special Prize - Sheep

Thanks

A request though - does anyone have photos for our website - please send
them to me at the is address - we would love to add them our web-site

Tel us what you lied and what you thought we should change (organisation!!)

Thanks a million

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Congratulations on providing us with another fantastic tournament Milky 
and Jon – you have put RumouR well and truly on the map of fun-loving places 
to be. The great spirit of the tournament was egged on by your superb organisation 
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Cheers also to all of the drag queens and king for entertaining us so well 
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Hi folks

Newsletter no.2 from EUCC is up on the website, with the first set of 
results from day one. Front page is devoted to the Bliss v Atletico game.

Results of note:

Clapham looking very good so far - played 2 won 2 (17-8 against TheBigEZ, 
and 17-5 against Orebro). All the other open teams have lost at least one 
of their first two games.

Bliss won both opening day games, including beating the second seeds 
Atletico 17-2. They say the game was closer than the scoreline, which I 
find hard to visualise. How can you have a close game and lose 17-2?

GB Juniors beat Sweden 17-5.

Coed: BAF (seeded 1) lost to Kleine Feiglinge (seeded 4) 17-8, proving 
just how hard it can be to seed an international tournament.


The website is at http://eucc.frisbee.cz

Paul

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I think that deserves to be repeated.

>GB Juniors beat Sweden 17-5.

I believe that is our first ever win (juniors division) over the Borg! Can't
actually believe it. Also, with France beating Finland, GB look like they
can win the division. Sure, there's a long way to go, but what a great
victory!

Kevin.
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However tuesday it seems the GB Juniors lost to France (doh!) 14-17, with
Sweden beating France (17-10) for a 3-way tie. (GB beat Finland 17-13).  Oh
well, I assume Juniors is at least double round robin (with only 8 teams) so
plenty of time for more victories.

Open pool B has the three top-half UK teams :(.
Open pool D has the three bottom-half UK teams :(.

Bliss beat Red Lights (17-10) and Discus (17-6) to remain top of the Womens
pool.

Blue Arse and Strange Blue are both 4th in their Mixed pools.


http://eucc.frisbee.cz/docum/disquito/3.pdf


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I had to laugh at the bit saying the Druids were
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could be a hangover from the last european clubs in '94.  during my brief
purple phase (well over it now) we played one of the french teams in a
particularly bad spirited game. it didn't help that we had Patch Winser on
the team who could of course translate perfectly.

'I never want to set foot on the field with druids again'.......

good news was that we won 24-22 in overtime with a stall count being called
back three times on the last point on their offence at 23-22.!.

'I do not understand why the person with the disc has to try and make it so
difficult to catch' from the spectator reported in newsletter 3.

reminds me of the question - 'why do they try and throw it into the wall all
the time ?'  - young sideline spectator on Sasha Dall playing indoor
ultimate . (tee - hee).

Coops
x Headrush 14 in NZ.

p.s. you need to start these juniors young but they tire out early -
http://members.nbci.com/neil_cooper/week10/hlf_0201.jpg

----- Original Message -----
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> I had to laugh at the bit saying the Druids were
> involved in a bad spirited game.
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In the Open, Clapham are still unbeaten having brushed aside Druids (17-9)
and Flying Angels (17-8) yesterday. Chevron remain third in the pool having
beaten Sipoo Odd Stars (17-9) and Druids (16-10). Druids are currently
bottom of the pool with 4 losses out of 4.

In the second division, Leeds Leeds Leeds are going well having won all 3
games (Fusion 17-7 and Craic 17-7). Red pulled off some good wins over
Stockholm (17-12) and TheBigZ (18-16). Fusion did finally get a win though
beating Stockholm in sudden death (18-19).

The junior division is looking so close. GB Juniors having beaten Sweden and
Finland have now slumped to two defeats by France (both by just two points)
and one by Sweden. However, Finland recorded a victory over Sweden, so all 4
teams look very competitive. I don't think we've ever had a junior division
this close. At the end of this round robin, they have semis, but with only 4
teams, they are merely jostling for positions. The real matches are tomorrow
morning with semis at 9.

Bliss continue to brush aside all opponents in their division beating Milder
Norden 17-10 and Espoo 17-6. With only Yahoo to play, Bliss look pretty
certain to go in to the quarters as top seeds.

In the mixed division, BAF picked up a couple of wins over Osmosis (17-10)
and Yn Milano (17-8) leaving them third in their pool. Strange Blue are
lying fourth in their pool having beaten Jet set (17-13) yesterday but lost
to Clac Clac (6-17).

Kevin.
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>Fusion did finally get a win though beating Stockholm in sudden death
(18-19)

Fusion also beat Patatas Bravas (10-17) on Monday, to finish 3rd instead of
4th in their first round pool, according to Tuesday's newsletter.

Cheers,
Scuttler,
Fusion (although not in Prague)

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Has anyone been contact with Prague today?

How did the Clapham vs Skoggs game go?

-----Original Message-----
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could be a hangover from the last european clubs in '94.  during my brief
purple phase (well over it now) we played one of the french teams in a
particularly bad spirited game. it didn't help that we had Patch Winser on
the team who could of course translate perfectly.

'I never want to set foot on the field with druids again'.......

good news was that we won 24-22 in overtime with a stall count being called
back three times on the last point on their offence at 23-22.!.

'I do not understand why the person with the disc has to try and make it so
difficult to catch' from the spectator reported in newsletter 3.

reminds me of the question - 'why do they try and throw it into the wall all
the time ?'  - young sideline spectator on Sasha Dall playing indoor
ultimate . (tee - hee).

Coops
x Headrush 14 in NZ.

p.s. you need to start these juniors young but they tire out early -
http://members.nbci.com/neil_cooper/week10/hlf_0201.jpg

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> I had to laugh at the bit saying the Druids were
> involved in a bad spirited game.
>
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Hi

Are there any teams interested in practising on Sunday afternoons at 
Clapham Common? We have a nice, flat, full-size *marked* pitch going 
spare.

On behalf of Clapham Ultimate and Angels, I've been negotiating with the 
local council for the use of the London League pitches on other nights. 
Having finally got the ok from Lambeth, Angels inform me that they no 
longer want the pitch on Sundays. So it's going begging.

The pitch is booked from Sunday 22nd July through to Sunday 9th September 
inclusive. (1pm - 3.30pm). Cost is 70 pounds (which works out at 8.75 per 
game). Your 70 pounds goes towards the marking of the pitch (which is 
re-marked every week).

If interested, please mail me back a.s.a.p.

Thanks

Paul Hurt



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>Are there any teams interested in practising on Sunday afternoons at 
>Clapham Common? We have a nice, flat, full-size *marked* pitch going 
>spare.

Sorry folks, it's gone again. I've just heard from Angels, and now they 
*do* want it after all. Sorry to bother you.

Paul.

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Today's update (on thursday play) for those who can't (be bothered to) look
on the web.

Liquidisc (1st seeds) lost to Mir san Zamperl (9th seeds) in a tight and
exciting game.

Open pool B
Clapham have continued winning  (5 - 0 so far). As are Skogshddans (which is
why Dave is so interested in that result from today). Neither Chevy or
Druids added a win, although both ran Flying Angels fairly close, and Druids
had a tight game against Red Lights, 15-17.

So Clapham still at the top, Chevy dead centre at 4th, and Druids at the
bottom (as seeded, but still disappointing).


Open pool D
Red lost to Fusion in a sudden death match, 13-14. But Red won against
Craic, 17-7, while Fusion lost to TheBigEZ, 4-17. So ending the day with one
win each.   Leeds are still winning.

Leeds are top, Red 2nd, Fusion are 5th.


Juniors
UK beat Finland, 16-8, France beat Sweden in sudden death, 15-14. Which
leave France at the top (5 - 1) and UK 2nd (3 - 3). So UK - sweden today as
a semi!


Womens
Bliss win again. and again .... Semis next.


Mixed
Both BAF and Strange Blue won and lie 3rd in their pools (5 - 2). BAF's was
a tight 17-15 game against Cus Bologna.


http://eucc.frisbee.cz/go/en/in/home/?d=&cil=disquito

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Clapham lost 17-14 to Skogshyddans and Bliss are in the final.

Nolan

> From: "Travers, Neil" <Neil.Travers@broadvision.com>
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:00:30 -0700
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Europeans
> 
> Today's update (on thursday play) for those who can't (be bothered to) look
> on the web.
> 
> Liquidisc (1st seeds) lost to Mir san Zamperl (9th seeds) in a tight and
> exciting game.
> 
> Open pool B
> Clapham have continued winning  (5 - 0 so far). As are Skogshddans (which is
> why Dave is so interested in that result from today). Neither Chevy or
> Druids added a win, although both ran Flying Angels fairly close, and Druids
> had a tight game against Red Lights, 15-17.
> 
> 
> So Clapham still at the top, Chevy dead centre at 4th, and Druids at the
> bottom (as seeded, but still disappointing).
> 
> 
> Open pool D
> Red lost to Fusion in a sudden death match, 13-14. But Red won against
> Craic, 17-7, while Fusion lost to TheBigEZ, 4-17. So ending the day with one
> win each.   Leeds are still winning.
> 
> Leeds are top, Red 2nd, Fusion are 5th.
> 
> 
> Juniors
> UK beat Finland, 16-8, France beat Sweden in sudden death, 15-14. Which
> leave France at the top (5 - 1) and UK 2nd (3 - 3). So UK - sweden today as
> a semi!
> 
> 
> Womens
> Bliss win again. and again .... Semis next.
> 
> 
> Mixed
> Both BAF and Strange Blue won and lie 3rd in their pools (5 - 2). BAF's was
> a tight 17-15 game against Cus Bologna.
> 
> 
> http://eucc.frisbee.cz/go/en/in/home/?d=&cil=disquito

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Hello BD

Just wondering who is entered for tour 4?

Cheers
Stroke
S&G

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There seems to be a problem with the britdisc archive.  When I click on
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> There seems to be a problem with the britdisc archive.  When I click on
> a message link, I get about 10 other links.

The account the archive is stored on had run out of disk space, so was
refusing to create more articles.

As the system had grown unmanagable (the mailbox itself was about 30Mb),
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are downloadable individually. Only messages 6001+ will appear in the
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At some point I will think about organising this system better. For those of
you that remember, it grew out of a quick botch job so that someone could
check up on an old mail...

Cheers,
	Ralf.

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Team list below - 27 open/6 women

LEEDS LEEDS LEEDS
DRUIDS 
CHEVRON		 
BAF			 
SLIPDISC 		 
STRANGE BLUE 	 
JEDI
TEAMSHARK
SMASH'n'GRAB 	 
HEADRUSH
POINT BLANK
HAMMERAGE
NIGHT FEVER
UNPOCOLOCO
RED
WHEY
FUSION
TRIGGER HAPPY
CLAPHAM I
CLAPHAM II
ALBATROSS
FLIGHT CLUB		 
NDY
NORTHERN ROSES
MILD MANNERED JANITORS
JAMMIE DODGERS
MOHAWK MWNCI MAGIC
6 WOMENS TEAMS

Teams with camping are aware - please make sure you are at the grammar
school by 9.30pm on Friday.  

There will be food available all w/end. 

The sat night event will be at the school

Directions below.

>From south

M1 north - M621 Leeds Centre - A58 Harrogate otherwise (Scotthall Road) -
Follow road straight at all roundabouts/traffic lights and look out for a
Shell Petrol station on your left and the 
Lord Darcy pub on our right.    Once passed straight at next lights and
right at roundabout.


>From North

A1 South - A58 Leeds - After approx 2 miles pass the La Laconda Italian
Restaurant  - take next right (star garage on corner).  Follow road to end
and turn Left at (Harewood house) traffic lights.  Continue for approx
2-3miles, Leeds Grammar School on left at next roundabout.

Captains meeting by main pavilion time to be advised.

Arun 


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roundabouts/traffic lights and look out for a Shell Petrol station on =
your left and the </FONT></P>

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at roundabout.</FONT>
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miles pass the La Laconda Italian Restaurant&nbsp; - take next right =
(star garage on corner).&nbsp; Follow road to end and turn Left at =
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Leeds Grammar School on left at next roundabout.</FONT></P>

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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Arun</FONT>=20
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I regret to inform you all that we have just been advised that there has
been a death in the caretaking staff at the grammar school.  

The area which was to be used for camping was close the caretaker's house.
As a result and I apologize for, there will be no camping available on site
all weekend. Sorry for the lateness but Rik and I were in Prague last week.

If there are any teams that are unable to find accommodation let me know and
I will try to book you into a campsite or bed and breakfast.

Below are some accommodation options.
www.leeds.gov.uk 

or YorkshireNet at http://www.yorkshirenet.co.uk

Local Tourist Office Accomodation Board (0113) 2425242
Once again sorry for the inconvenience.
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">The area which was to be used for =
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FINAL RESULT OPEN
1 Skoghydans  
2 Clapham  
3 Liquidisc  
4 Mir San Zamperl  
5 Ragnarok  
6 The Flying Angels Bern  
7 Chevron Action Flash  
8 Feldrenner Mainz  
9 Red Lights  
10 Helsinky ult.  
11 Wall City  
12 Sipoo Odd Stars  
13 Fluid Druids  
14 KFUM Orebro Frisbee  
15 LeedsLeedsLeeds  
16 XLR8RS  
17 RED  
18 Searching Woodpecker  
19 Thebiges  
20 Ultimate Vibration  
21 Dogs On Speed  
22 Craic  
23 Fusion  
24 Ju-piter  
25 Stockholm Ultimate  
26 Patatas Bravas  
27 F.U.J.  


FINAL RESULT MIXED
1 Stenungsunds  
2 Kleine Feiglinge  
3 Endzonis  
4 Clac - Clac  
5 Fingers  
6 Strange Blue  
7 Blue Arse Flies  
8 CUS Bologna  
9 Prague devils  
10 Saxy divers  
11 Upsadaisy  
12 Y'N Milano  
13 Osmosis  
14 Jet Set  
15 Ogre Frisbeer club  
16 OUF  
17  


FINAL RESULT WOMEN
1 Bliss  
2 Milder Norden  
3 Red Lights  
4 Espoo Ultimate club  
5 Discus  
6 Atletico  
7 Yahoo  
8 Russki Blini  


FINAL RESULT JUNIOR
1 Sweden  
2 FINLAND  
3 UNITED KINGDOM  
4 FRANCE  


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Hey britdiscers

Could some one who was in Prague last week post the scorelines for the
Bliss/milder nordon and clapham/stoghyans finals. The informtion was never
posted on the EUCC website,

Many thanks

Ben
oxy/mootones/hoofers


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A quick word of thanks to all the other 'Brits' that came by and
cheered/heckled the Druids.

You know who you are, and the Druids' concept of 'Away Rules' forbids me
from embarrassing anyone in particular...

Thanks again,

Wayne
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does anybody know which train station is closest to
the site, and how far it is from the site?

dan
flyght club

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Hello,
Does anyone who's going from Bristol to Tour 4 have a space in a car I could
get a lift in?
Due to a bizzare sequence of happenings, I'll most likely have to go from
Bristol to Brighton to Leeds otherwise.

If you've got a space could you email me (shark@nildram.co.uk) with a
contact number so we can get in touch?  'course I'll pay for petrol and
stuff.

Thanks,

Felix, Mohawks.



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Quick word of congratulations to all the Brits who went to Prague.

9 out of 11 teams improved or matched their seeding - a fantastic result.

Special mentions to:
- Juniors who are the first ever GB Junior team to beat the Swedes.
- Bliss who went undefeated again (and won spirit)
- Clapham and Leeds who only lost 2 all week

Lots of other star performances I expect - can't wait to hear all about it
in Leeds.

Well done folks

Dave


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Subject: Texan Looking for Ultimate...
From: Nolan <nolan@daletaylor.co.uk>
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Hi All,

A Texan pal of mine is looking for a game while over here (see below). His
'window of opportunity' is limited but if anyone can help, I'd appreciate
it.

Thanks
Nolan

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Subject: Fw: 

I'll be in the Daventry area Mon-Wed of next week on business.  I was
wondering if there are opportunities to play ultimate in and around there.
I think Monday pm is really the only evening that I could play as I will
probably be in London on Tues evening and leave for Italy on Wed. pm.

Also, I was wondering if you have any contacts for playing ultimate out in
Italy and France - specifically Milan, Genoa, Rome and Paris and Brittany.
My business takes me out there too.

I look forward to tossing the disc with you in the not too distant future.

Anand

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Hi all,

Just heard from Dan Roddick (who heard from Moro)

The Japanese Ministry of Postal Service will sell "Flying Disc 
Stamp" as one of WG Memorial Postal Stamps. Not all sports 
received this special honor.

This is the first flying disc postal stamp in the world!

and regarding TV...

TWI (Trans World International) maintains the rights for oversees
broadcasting and the organizations that have contracted with TWI 
as of June 29, 2001 are listed in the following:

1. VideoLand Sports - (Chinese Taipei)
2. CCTV - China
3. YLE - Finland
4. MTG - Sweden
5. VIASAT SPORT - Sweden
6. GESTION DE DERECHOS - Spain
7. Sportscity - Singapore
8. Yes HK VOD - Hong Kong, China
9. Dubai Sports Channel - Middle East/Europe
10. TelstraSaturn - New Zealand

At the time of writing the above mentioned info is not on the web 
site, but generally you can find World Games info at
http://www.wfdf.org/akitaupdate.htm

Del

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Dear all

Admittedly it hasn't been published for some time, but I'm sure most of you
will have fond memories of Ultimatum, the UK Ultimate magazine. 

This year, the BUF have decided to publish a one-off, colour edition. This
will be sent directly to players some time in late autumn, and will be full
of exciting memorabilia and hot gossip from the whole of the 2001 season.

My aim is to include as wide a spectrum of teams as possible. As well as
action photos by the Ultimatum staff photographers, I will be publishing
loads of portraits and candid shots of as many people as I can. 

So, if you want to make sure your team are in Ultimatum, send me your
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Please write on the back of every photo:
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All photos will be returned as long as you include an envelope with your
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You can either find me at T4, or send them to:
Jack Goolden
55 Jeffreys Road
Clapham
London
SW4 6QD

The deadline is Coed Nationals (1st September)

Enjoy!
Jack
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Admittedly it hasn't been published for so=
me time, but I'm sure most of you will have fond memories of Ultimatum, the=
 UK Ultimate magazine. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">This year, the BUF have decided to publish=
 a one-off, colour edition. This will be sent directly to players some time=
 in late autumn, and will be full of exciting memorabilia and hot gossip fr=
om the whole of the 2001 season.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">My aim is to include as wide a spectrum of=
 teams as possible. As well as action photos by the Ultimatum staff photogr=
aphers, I will be publishing loads of portraits and candid shots of as many=
 people as I can. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">So, if you want to make sure your team are=
 in Ultimatum, send me your snap-shots! (be selective)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Guidelines:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">!! These pictures will be small (about 3c=
m wide), so need to be close-ups to people !!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Please write on the back of every photo:</=
FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1. Your name</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">2. The subject's name</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">3. The tournament</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">All photos will be returned as long as you=
 include an envelope with your address on it.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">You can either find me at T4, or send them=
 to:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Jack Goolden</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">55 Jeffreys Road</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Clapham</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">London</FONT>
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Hello

 I know its a bit short notice but I was wondering if
anybody had a spare place in their car for moi, I live
in the Twickenham/London are and I have been car
trained and can pay for the pleasure. Err thats about
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Hi

Londoners might be interested to know that the traditional Thursday night 
pickup game at Clapham Common is back on and open to all-comers, whatever 
level of ability.

It takes place on the London League pitch nearest Clapham South tube (see 
maps on website), starting around 7pm.

Uniquely, for a pickup game in a public place, the pitch is marked. To 
help cover the cost of marking, there's a token pound-per-player charge. 
Hope that's okay. (London League, Angels and Clapham Ultimate pay the 
rest of the costs).

Starts tomorrow. See you there.

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Clapham 12 - Skogs 19

BAH! It was the worst we played all week. They were very good and made us
play badly as we tried to get back in the game. 

Thanks for all the British support in the semi and final, and congrats to
Bliss and all the other GB teams who got good results.

rt 



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Hey britdiscers

Could some one who was in Prague last week post the scorelines for the
Bliss/milder nordon and clapham/stoghyans finals. The informtion was never
posted on the EUCC website,

Many thanks

Ben
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Just to confirm to everyone that the event is going ahead. Cost is =
=A380 per
team, to be paid to me at the weekend if that's ok.

Teams entered are

BLISS
BAPS
BAF
DIVALUTION
MAVIS

If anyone else is interested in entering a team or picking up then let =
me
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Cheers,

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Team list below - 27 open/5 women

LEEDS LEEDS LEEDS
DRUIDS 
CHEVRON		 
BAF			 
SLIPDISC 		 
STRANGE BLUE 	 
JEDI
TEAMSHARK
SMASH'n'GRAB 	 
HEADRUSH
POINT BLANK
HAMMERAGE
NIGHT FEVER
UNPOCOLOCO
RED
WHEY
FUSION
TRIGGER HAPPY
CLAPHAM I
CLAPHAM II
ALBATROSS
FLIGHT CLUB		 
NDY
NORTHERN ROSES
MILD MANNERED JANITORS
JAMMIE DODGERS
MOHAWK MWNCI MAGIC
6 WOMENS TEAMS

THERE IS NO CAMPING - AS EXPLAINED EARLIER
NOTE DIRECTIONS BELOW - PLEASE IGNORE PREVIOUS DIRECTIONS AND MAIL RE T4
INFO AS  INCORRECT

Teams should meet at the Library pub (formerly the feast and firkin) on the
Friday night.  It the pub that has always been used for meeting on the
Friday nights for all previous leeds t/ments - if you don't know it let me
know.

There will be food available all w/end. 

The sat night event will be at the school

Directions below.

>From South
M1 north - M621 Leeds Centre - A61 Harrogate otherwise (Scotthall
Road/Harrogate Road) - Follow road straight over all roundabouts/traffic
lights and look out for a Shell Petrol station on your left and the Lord
Darcy pub on our right.    Once passed straight at next lights and right at
roundabout.


>From North
A1 South - A58 Leeds - After approx 2 miles pass the La Laconda Italian
Restaurant  - take next right (star garage on corner).  Follow road to end
and turn Left at (Harewood house) traffic lights- you are now traveling on
the A61 towards Leeds.  Continue for approx 2-3miles, Leeds Grammar School
on left at next roundabout.

Captains meeting by main pavilion at 9am.

any probs let me know

Arun

P.S. Ian I've sorted you lot - see you in the pub and Laura - cheers!!!!



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Roman">BAF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">SLIPDISC =
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<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">STRANGE BLUE =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">JEDI</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">TEAMSHARK</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">SMASH'n'GRAB =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">HEADRUSH</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">POINT BLANK</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">HAMMERAGE</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">NIGHT FEVER</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">UNPOCOLOCO</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">RED</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">WHEY</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">FUSION</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">TRIGGER =
HAPPY</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">CLAPHAM I</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">CLAPHAM II</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">ALBATROSS</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">FLIGHT =
CLUB&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">NDY</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">NORTHERN =
ROSES</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">MILD MANNERED =
JANITORS</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">JAMMIE =
DODGERS</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">MOHAWK MWNCI =
MAGIC</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Times New Roman">6 WOMENS =
TEAMS</FONT>
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<P ALIGN=3DCENTER><U><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D5 FACE=3D"Times =
New Roman">THERE IS NO CAMPING - AS EXPLAINED =
EARLIER</FONT></B></U></P>

<P ALIGN=3DCENTER><U><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D5 FACE=3D"Times =
New Roman">NOTE DIRECTIONS BELOW - PLEASE IGNORE PREVIOUS DIRECTIONS =
AND MAIL RE T4 INFO AS&nbsp; INCORRECT</FONT></B></U><B></B></P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Teams should meet at the Library pub =
(formerly the feast and firkin) on the Friday night.&nbsp; It the pub =
that has always been used for meeting on the Friday nights for all =
previous leeds t/ments - if you don't know it let me know.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">There will be food available all =
w/end. </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">The sat night event will be at the =
school</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Directions below.</FONT>
</P>

<P><U><B><FONT SIZE=3D5 FACE=3D"Times New Roman">From =
South</FONT></B></U><B></B>
<BR><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">M1 north - M621 Leeds Centre - A61 =
Harrogate otherwise (Scotthall Road/Harrogate Road) - Follow road =
straight over all roundabouts/traffic lights and look out for a Shell =
Petrol station on your left and the Lord Darcy pub on our right.&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Once passed straight at next lights and right at =
roundabout.</FONT></P>
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<P><U><B><FONT SIZE=3D5 FACE=3D"Times New Roman">From =
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<BR><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">A1 South - A58 Leeds - After approx =
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(Harewood house) traffic lights- you are now traveling on the A61 =
towards Leeds.&nbsp; Continue for approx 2-3miles, Leeds Grammar School =
on left at next roundabout.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Captains meeting by main pavilion at =
9am.</FONT>
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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">any probs let me know</FONT>
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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">P.S. Ian I've sorted you lot - see =
you in the pub and Laura - cheers!!!!</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
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I am on holiday until 30th July. Please contact ben.reeves@leoburnett.co.uk or davin.shepherd@leoburnett.co.uk if you need assistance. Thanks

Mike

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Hi all,
Any team looking for an extra player this weekend??
I have not played in any tour this summer so can play for anyone.

Haven't played much this summer, so will be coughing my lungs up on the f=
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ut if you can put up with that, mail me.

Cheers
Steve
aka Bonkers
aka Stupid Geordie Bloke
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From: Michael Palmer
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To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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Hello,

I am on holiday until 30th July. Please contact ben.reeves@leoburnett.co.=
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Anybody going, by car, to T4 (Leeds) from South Wales
direction and going via or near Monmouth?

I know it's a bit short notice. So if you have any
space for a passenger to share travel costs, let me
know. If necessary I can get to surrounding counties
(Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, etc).

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Hello,

I am on holiday until 30th July. Please contact ben.reeves@leoburnett.co.uk or davin.shepherd@leoburnett.co.uk if you need assistance. Thanks

Mike

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Hello,

I am on holiday until 30th July.
I will not be needing any milk, thank you.
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hiya!

just wondering if there was anyone from the south area (southampton, london
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any help would be much appreciated.

laters

tom  (S&G)

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Hi,

My name's Raph and I'm an Australian just arrived in London.  Just heard 
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21/07/01 - Hayling Hurricane (Golf)
21/07/01 - Tour 4
21/07/01 - quarry park open  (Golf)
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Hello BD and sorry for those it does not concern.

A few months ago I heard about a regular practise happening in Reading.
Could I please be added to the mailing list and get the info about what
happens when.

Cheers.

Stroke

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Disclaimer: This is a totally unofficial post.  This is the info that
sent to the u8c for approval, but haven't seen make it through to the
public domain, as yet.

Therefore, it might well be incorrect!

Wayne

>Here's the points allocation and Tour Rankings after T3,
>assuming that there's no adjustments/penalties to be added (I note that
>some teams haven't paid their Deposits!)
>
>If there's no adjustments, y'all can post them to Britdisc, or let me
>know and I'll do it.
>
>l8rs
>
>Wayne
>
>
>
>basic points allocation for results of Tour 3
>
>POSITION        TEAM            POINTS
> 1      Clapham 2               250
> 2      Fluid Druids            230
> 3      Chevron Action Flash    222
> 4      Clapham 1               210
> 5      TeamShark               205
> 6      Red                     190
> 7      Fusion 1                181
> 8      Blue Arse Flies Open    170
> 9      LeedsLeedsLeeds         160
>10      Smash & Grab            150
>11      Headrush                141
>12      Hammerage               130
>13      Craic                   125
>14      Whey                    110
>15      Blue Arse Flies Mixed   101
>16      Un Poco Loco             90
>17      Fusion 2                 81
>18      GB Juniors               76
>19      Nightfever               72
>20      Point Blank              68
>21      Albatross                64
>22      Jedi                     60
>23      Flyght Club              56
>24      Hustlers                 52
>25      Strange Blue             48
>26      Sublime                  44
>27      Skunks 1                 40
>28      Slipdisc                21.25
>29      No Damn Yanks            32
>30      Mohawk Mwnci Magic       28
>31      Trigger Happy            24
>32      Northern Roses 1         20
>33      Uriel                    16
>34      Jammy Bodgers            12
>35      Skunks 2                  8
>36      Northern Roses 2          4
>
>Points for positions 1-17 are fixed,
>Teams below 17th in m'th position (with N teams in the tournament) score
>80*(N+1-m)/(N-16) points, (rounding to the nearest integer).
>
>Tour ranking after Tour 3 (note: teams equal on points have been sorted
>alphabetically)
>
>        TEAM NAME               TOUR 1      TOUR 2      TOUR 3
>RANKING
>                       PTS POSIT   PTS POSIT   PTS POSIT    PTS RANK
>Clapham 1              250  1/28   250  1/28   210  4/36    710  1
>Clapham 2              222  3/28   230  2/28   250  1/36    702  2
>Chevron Action Flash   230  2/28   222  3/28   222  3/36    674  3
>Fusion 1               210  4/28   205  5/28   181  7/36    596  4
>Fluid Druids           181  7/28   181  7/28   230  2/36    592  5
>TeamShark              190  6/28   190  6/28   205  5/36    585  6
>LeedsLeedsLeeds        205  5/28   210  4/28   160  9/36    575  7
>Red                    170  8/28   170  8/28   190  6/36    530  8
>Smash & Grab           160  9/28   150 10/28   150 10/36    460  9
>Blue Arse Flies Open   141 11/28   125 13/28   170  8/36    436 10
>Whey                   150 10/28   160  9/28   110 14/36    420 11
>Hammerage              125 13/28   141 11/28   130 12/36    396 12
>Headrush               130 12/28   110 14/28   141 11/36    381 13
>Un Poco Loco           110 14/28   130 12/28    90 16/36    330 14
>Blue Arse Flies Mixed   81 17/28   101 15/28   101 15/36    283 15
>Nightfever              90 16/28    90 16/28    72 19/36    252 16
>Fusion 2                73 18/28    73 18/28    81 17/36    227 17
>Strange Blue           101 15/28    67 19/28    48 25/36    216 18
>GB Juniors              60 20/28    47 22/28    76 18/36    183 19
>Jedi                    53 21/28    53 21/28    60 22/36    166 20
>Flyght Club             67 19/28    40 23/28    56 23/36    163 21
>Craic                                          125 13/36    125 22
>Slipdisc                40 23/28    60 20/28 21.25 28/36 121.25 23
>Sublime                 47 22/28                44 26/36     91 24=
>Albatross               27 25/28                64 21/36     91 24=
>Hustlers                            33 24/28    52 24/36     85 26
>Bliss                               81 17/28                 81 27
>Albatross                                       64 21/36     64 28
>Mohawk Mwnci Magic      20 26/28                28 30/36     48 29
>Skunks 1                                        40 27/36     40 30=
>Northern Roses 1                    20 26/28    20 32/36     40 30=
>Bears                    7 28/28    27 25/28                 34 32
>UWE                     33 24/28                             33 33
>No Damn Yanks                                   32 29/36     32 34
>Trigger Happy                        7 28/28    24 31/36     31 35
>Mild Mannered Janitors  13 27/28    13 27/28                 26 36
>Uriel                                           16 33/36     16 37
>Jammy Bodgers                                   12 34/36     12 38
>Skunks 2                                         8 35/36      8 39
>Northern Roses 2                                 4 36/36      4 40
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Wayne Retter

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Help please. Due to unnecessary illness and work related injuries we are v. short of players for T4. Anyone keen to play is welcome.

Call me on 07740194504 or mail me: mta99@breathe.com

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Hello,

I am on holiday until 30th July. Please contact ben.reeves@leoburnett.co.uk or davin.shepherd@leoburnett.co.uk if you need assistance. Thanks

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Dear all

Message on behalf of my brother (Larry/Paul):

Does anyone have car space for a 'slim one' from London to Leeds tonight or tomorrow morning.  Please call me on my mobile (07779 780 666) or big sis land line in London: 020 7249 1056.

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Chris can you ring me 0113 3078959 / 07712 583578 - or if anyone know a
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Girls, 


The tournament at the weekend will be a round robin. Captain's meeting will
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242859, to confirm you are definitely coming? 


  


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Hi all-

Sorry for the delay in getting this info out.  I was waiting for the =
last of the roster info to get sorted.

So here are the points standings after HK7s:

OVERALL RANKING    TEAM                            HK7s                  =
                 TOTAL

          1                       Chevron                          60 =
points                             120 points
          2-3                    KUPA                             50     =
                                  92
          2-3                    Randy                            42     =
                                  92
          4                       BAF Prague                    35       =
                                64
          5                       Strange Blue                  15       =
                                50
          6                       Cyrille                            24  =
                                     48
          7                       BAF Others                    20       =
                                38
          8                       Little Shef                       17   =
                                    37
          9                       Wage                             29    =
                                  29
          10-11                 Sneeekys                       14        =
                               25
          10-11                 Red                               10     =
                                   25
          12                     Angels                           10     =
                                  20
          13                     Aurora Borealis               11 (one =
new player)               11
          14-16                Jedi Children                   10        =
                               10
          14-16                Sublime                          10       =
                                10
          14-16                Mowhawks                      10          =
                             10



All teams ranked 12 and above have already qualified for Mixed =
Nationals, to be held the first weekend of September.  Info soon to =
follow from Si Weeks about registration.

Teams 13-16 can qualify by simply turning up for Event 3 at Nottingham =
on August Bank Holiday weekend.  Sam put on a great tourny last year- =
this one looks to be even better.

Any other teams can still qualify at Nottingham by placing 7th or higher =
at Nottingham.  It's not too late!!!!!!


Any question, get back to me....
nancy


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry for the delay in getting this =
info out.&nbsp;=20
I was waiting for the last of the roster info to get =
sorted.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So here are the points standings after=20
HK7s:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OVERALL RANKING&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
TEAM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
HK7s&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
 TOTAL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Chevron&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp; 60=20
points&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
120 points</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
2-3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
KUPA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
50&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
92</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2-3&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Randy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
42&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
92</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
BAF=20
Prague&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
35&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;64</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Strange=20
Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
50</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Cyrille&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
24&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;48</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
BAF=20
Others&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;38</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Little=20
Shef&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
37</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Wage&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
29&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
29</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10-11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Sneeekys&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
25</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10-1=
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Red&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
25</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Angels&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;=20
&nbsp;=20
10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
20</FONT></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;13&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Aurora Borealis&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 11 (one new=20
player)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
11</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
14-16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Jedi=20
Children&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
14-16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Sublime&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14-16=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Mowhawks&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All teams ranked 12 and above have =
already=20
qualified for Mixed Nationals, to be held the first weekend of =
September.&nbsp;=20
Info soon to follow from Si Weeks about registration.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Teams 13-16 can qualify by simply =
turning up for=20
Event 3 at Nottingham on August Bank Holiday weekend.&nbsp; Sam put on a =
great=20
tourny last year- this one looks to be even better.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any other teams can still qualify at =
Nottingham by=20
placing 7th or higher at Nottingham.&nbsp; It's not too =
late!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any question, get back to =
me....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nancy</FONT></DIV>
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could anyone give me a postcode to the site for T4 please, so that I can
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Any London players who aren't at T4 and who wanna play, there will be a few 
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A quick note to reiterate (probably slightly paraphrased!) comments from
the w/e in Leeds, and add a couple.

from Si Hill, when collecting the Tour Champions trophy:
"to all of you that have organised tournaments this year, nice one!"

from Chris Hughes, confirming the stepping down of the 2001 u8c:
"I'd like to thank all of u8c for their help in what's been a difficult
year... especially Dora (for the last 4 years)"


I don't know if anyone else noticed, but no-one thanked Chris.

We should have done - he's put a lot of hard work into the Tour since
it's inception in 1997, from running the odd event here and there and
assisting with writing schedules, to stepping into the "buck stops here"
role of Director of Competitions and hoping to continue the improvements
into our sport that the system is developing.

Chris - we thank you.


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FROM VICTOR KABILA
TELE+27-82-506-8969
Email;victorkabila24us@yahoo.com
                     
                     HUMBLE ASSISTANCE

ATTN: DIRECTOR/CEO. 

I do foresee the surprise this letter will bring to
you as it comes from a stranger but rest assured as it
comes with best intention. However, your address was
courtesy of a business journal at the World Trade
Center in Johannesburg, but after due consideration
from your profile, I became aware of your credibility
of handling this trust and my future. Thus after my
humble decision to solicit your understanding and
co-operation in this transaction as it will be
beneficial to all of us involved. 
My name is Victor Kabila from the Democratic Republic
of Congo, the first son of second wife to Laurent
Kabila. As you know that my father Laurent Kabila,
President of the Republic of Congo was assassinated by
a bodyguard on the 16th of January 2001. My late
father used his position to make some fortune for
himself and his children. I was studying overseas when
my father died and was forced to return for his
burial. After his burial the family started having
problems, which is phenomenal with polygamous
families. 
He married three wives and had ten children. It is as
a result of this problem that I beckoned on my
father’s attorney for advice. And he notified me about
my father’s “WILL” with his chamber. When I was going
through the “WILL” I discovered that my late father
foresaw what would happen in future when he died. That
led him to share his assets among his children. He
drew my attention where he states: 
“As a father who loves and care for his children, I
took it upon myself to share my properties to the
three families I have. For you Victor, I have a box
deposited with a security company in Johannesburg,
South Africa for you to take care of yourself, your
mother, your brother and two sisters in case you see
me no more. The box contains US$25.5 Million (Twenty
Five Million Five hundred thousand United States
Dollars). I deposited the said box in Johannesburg,
South Africa as valuables. You have to go to my
attorney and collect a letter containing all you need
to know about the box. Besides, the box was deposited
in your name and you alone can claim it” 
With these as my father’s words, I see that my
father’s family cannot accommodate me and Joseph, now
the President of Democratic Republic of Congo, I
decided to solicit for your help to transfer this
money into your company or private account on any
other part of the world. Secondly, you will also help
me to look for profitable investment overseas because
I do 
not have any knowledge of international investment. If
you are interested in helping me, please contact me
with the above mentioned telephone or e-mail
indicating your interest in helping me. I will
compensate you with 30% of the total sum for your
assistance, 5% for expenses that may be incurred in
the course of this transaction and the remaining 65%
will be for my family and I, which you will help to
invest. This transaction needs utmost trust and
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Remain blessed. 

{PLEASE TRY TO MANTIAN THE STRICT CONFIDENTIAL OF THIS
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Yours faithfully, 

Victor Kabila




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Hi all

First of all many thanks to Arun and all the Leeds
players who ran Tour 4. It was a great weekend.

Unfortunately Graham and I had to leave before the end
of the final as we had to take someone to the train
station before 6.40. I heard at a service station on
the M1 that you were all so kind to show me such
support over my role on the U8 committee. I really
appreciate it and apologies for not being there in
person.

The real person to thank though is Chris Hughes who
has dedicated an enormous amount of his time to
running the Tour over these past few years. We as an
Ultimate community owe him a lot.

I hope that there is someone out there who can step
into his shoes and do as great a job as he has done.

Thanks again
Dora

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As always - I am sorry to use Britdisc for this

Ben R (BUF) - can you please email - ref our conversation yesterday
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Thanks

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FROM VICTOR KABILA
TELE+27-82-506-8969
Email;victorkabila24us@yahoo.com
                     
                     HUMBLE ASSISTANCE

ATTN: DIRECTOR/CEO. 

I do foresee the surprise this letter will bring to
you as it comes from a stranger but rest assured as it
comes with best intention. However, your address was
courtesy of a business journal at the World Trade
Center in Johannesburg, but after due consideration
from your profile, I became aware of your credibility
of handling this trust and my future. Thus after my
humble decision to solicit your understanding and
co-operation in this transaction as it will be
beneficial to all of us involved. 
My name is Victor Kabila from the Democratic Republic
of Congo, the first son of second wife to Laurent
Kabila. As you know that my father Laurent Kabila,
President of the Republic of Congo was assassinated by
a bodyguard on the 16th of January 2001. My late
father used his position to make some fortune for
himself and his children. I was studying overseas when
my father died and was forced to return for his
burial. After his burial the family started having
problems, which is phenomenal with polygamous
families. 
He married three wives and had ten children. It is as
a result of this problem that I beckoned on my
father’s attorney for advice. And he notified me about
my father’s “WILL” with his chamber. When I was going
through the “WILL” I discovered that my late father
foresaw what would happen in future when he died. That
led him to share his assets among his children. He
drew my attention where he states: 
“As a father who loves and care for his children, I
took it upon myself to share my properties to the
three families I have. For you Victor, I have a box
deposited with a security company in Johannesburg,
South Africa for you to take care of yourself, your
mother, your brother and two sisters in case you see
me no more. The box contains US$25.5 Million (Twenty
Five Million Five hundred thousand United States
Dollars). I deposited the said box in Johannesburg,
South Africa as valuables. You have to go to my
attorney and collect a letter containing all you need
to know about the box. Besides, the box was deposited
in your name and you alone can claim it” 
With these as my father’s words, I see that my
father’s family cannot accommodate me and Joseph, now
the President of Democratic Republic of Congo, I
decided to solicit for your help to transfer this
money into your company or private account on any
other part of the world. Secondly, you will also help
me to look for profitable investment overseas because
I do 
not have any knowledge of international investment. If
you are interested in helping me, please contact me
with the above mentioned telephone or e-mail
indicating your interest in helping me. I will
compensate you with 30% of the total sum for your
assistance, 5% for expenses that may be incurred in
the course of this transaction and the remaining 65%
will be for my family and I, which you will help to
invest. This transaction needs utmost trust and
confidentiality. Note also this transaction attracts
no risk on your side since I have arranged all
modalities for safe, smooth and successful
transaction. Looking forward to your urgent reply.
Remain blessed. 

{PLEASE TRY TO MANTIAN THE STRICT CONFIDENTIAL OF THIS
LETTER}

Yours faithfully, 

Victor Kabila




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FROM VICTOR KABILA
TELE+27-82-506-8969
Email;victorkabila24us@yahoo.com
                     
                     HUMBLE ASSISTANCE

ATTN: DIRECTOR/CEO. 

I do foresee the surprise this letter will bring to
you as it comes from a stranger but rest assured as it
comes with best intention. However, your address was
courtesy of a business journal at the World Trade
Center in Johannesburg, but after due consideration
from your profile, I became aware of your credibility
of handling this trust and my future. Thus after my
humble decision to solicit your understanding and
co-operation in this transaction as it will be
beneficial to all of us involved. 
My name is Victor Kabila from the Democratic Republic
of Congo, the first son of second wife to Laurent
Kabila. As you know that my father Laurent Kabila,
President of the Republic of Congo was assassinated by
a bodyguard on the 16th of January 2001. My late
father used his position to make some fortune for
himself and his children. I was studying overseas when
my father died and was forced to return for his
burial. After his burial the family started having
problems, which is phenomenal with polygamous
families. 
He married three wives and had ten children. It is as
a result of this problem that I beckoned on my
father’s attorney for advice. And he notified me about
my father’s “WILL” with his chamber. When I was going
through the “WILL” I discovered that my late father
foresaw what would happen in future when he died. That
led him to share his assets among his children. He
drew my attention where he states: 
“As a father who loves and care for his children, I
took it upon myself to share my properties to the
three families I have. For you Victor, I have a box
deposited with a security company in Johannesburg,
South Africa for you to take care of yourself, your
mother, your brother and two sisters in case you see
me no more. The box contains US$25.5 Million (Twenty
Five Million Five hundred thousand United States
Dollars). I deposited the said box in Johannesburg,
South Africa as valuables. You have to go to my
attorney and collect a letter containing all you need
to know about the box. Besides, the box was deposited
in your name and you alone can claim it” 
With these as my father’s words, I see that my
father’s family cannot accommodate me and Joseph, now
the President of Democratic Republic of Congo, I
decided to solicit for your help to transfer this
money into your company or private account on any
other part of the world. Secondly, you will also help
me to look for profitable investment overseas because
I do 
not have any knowledge of international investment. If
you are interested in helping me, please contact me
with the above mentioned telephone or e-mail
indicating your interest in helping me. I will
compensate you with 30% of the total sum for your
assistance, 5% for expenses that may be incurred in
the course of this transaction and the remaining 65%
will be for my family and I, which you will help to
invest. This transaction needs utmost trust and
confidentiality. Note also this transaction attracts
no risk on your side since I have arranged all
modalities for safe, smooth and successful
transaction. Looking forward to your urgent reply.
Remain blessed. 

{PLEASE TRY TO MANTIAN THE STRICT CONFIDENTIAL OF THIS
LETTER}

Yours faithfully, 

Victor Kabila




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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>I am looking for a room in a shared flat/house from September until whenever.&nbsp; Zone two would be excellent... I'm working next to the Old Street Tube Station.&nbsp; If anyone knows of a room, or has some suggestions... please reply.&nbsp; </DIV>
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To: Arun Sharma <Arun_S@hway.co.uk>,
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Hi all

First of all many thanks to Arun and all the Leeds
players who ran Tour 4. It was a great weekend.

Unfortunately Graham and I had to leave before the end
of the final as we had to take someone to the train
station before 6.40. I heard at a service station on
the M1 that you were all so kind to show me such
support over my role on the U8 committee. I really
appreciate it and apologies for not being there in
person.

The real person to thank though is Chris Hughes who
has dedicated an enormous amount of his time to
running the Tour over these past few years. We as an
Ultimate community owe him a lot.

I hope that there is someone out there who can step
into his shoes and do as great a job as he has done.

Thanks again
Dora

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FROM VICTOR KABILA
TELE+27-82-506-8969
Email;victorkabila24us@yahoo.com
                     
                     HUMBLE ASSISTANCE

ATTN: DIRECTOR/CEO. 

I do foresee the surprise this letter will bring to
you as it comes from a stranger but rest assured as it
comes with best intention. However, your address was
courtesy of a business journal at the World Trade
Center in Johannesburg, but after due consideration
from your profile, I became aware of your credibility
of handling this trust and my future. Thus after my
humble decision to solicit your understanding and
co-operation in this transaction as it will be
beneficial to all of us involved. 
My name is Victor Kabila from the Democratic Republic
of Congo, the first son of second wife to Laurent
Kabila. As you know that my father Laurent Kabila,
President of the Republic of Congo was assassinated by
a bodyguard on the 16th of January 2001. My late
father used his position to make some fortune for
himself and his children. I was studying overseas when
my father died and was forced to return for his
burial. After his burial the family started having
problems, which is phenomenal with polygamous
families. 
He married three wives and had ten children. It is as
a result of this problem that I beckoned on my
father’s attorney for advice. And he notified me about
my father’s “WILL” with his chamber. When I was going
through the “WILL” I discovered that my late father
foresaw what would happen in future when he died. That
led him to share his assets among his children. He
drew my attention where he states: 
“As a father who loves and care for his children, I
took it upon myself to share my properties to the
three families I have. For you Victor, I have a box
deposited with a security company in Johannesburg,
South Africa for you to take care of yourself, your
mother, your brother and two sisters in case you see
me no more. The box contains US$25.5 Million (Twenty
Five Million Five hundred thousand United States
Dollars). I deposited the said box in Johannesburg,
South Africa as valuables. You have to go to my
attorney and collect a letter containing all you need
to know about the box. Besides, the box was deposited
in your name and you alone can claim it” 
With these as my father’s words, I see that my
father’s family cannot accommodate me and Joseph, now
the President of Democratic Republic of Congo, I
decided to solicit for your help to transfer this
money into your company or private account on any
other part of the world. Secondly, you will also help
me to look for profitable investment overseas because
I do 
not have any knowledge of international investment. If
you are interested in helping me, please contact me
with the above mentioned telephone or e-mail
indicating your interest in helping me. I will
compensate you with 30% of the total sum for your
assistance, 5% for expenses that may be incurred in
the course of this transaction and the remaining 65%
will be for my family and I, which you will help to
invest. This transaction needs utmost trust and
confidentiality. Note also this transaction attracts
no risk on your side since I have arranged all
modalities for safe, smooth and successful
transaction. Looking forward to your urgent reply.
Remain blessed. 

{PLEASE TRY TO MANTIAN THE STRICT CONFIDENTIAL OF THIS
LETTER}

Yours faithfully, 

Victor Kabila




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As always - I am sorry to use Britdisc for this

Ben R (BUF) - can you please email - ref our conversation yesterday
afternoon - I have lost your email -

Thanks

Milk - TeamShark

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A quick note to reiterate (probably slightly paraphrased!) comments from
the w/e in Leeds, and add a couple.

from Si Hill, when collecting the Tour Champions trophy:
"to all of you that have organised tournaments this year, nice one!"

from Chris Hughes, confirming the stepping down of the 2001 u8c:
"I'd like to thank all of u8c for their help in what's been a difficult
year... especially Dora (for the last 4 years)"


I don't know if anyone else noticed, but no-one thanked Chris.

We should have done - he's put a lot of hard work into the Tour since
it's inception in 1997, from running the odd event here and there and
assisting with writing schedules, to stepping into the "buck stops here"
role of Director of Competitions and hoping to continue the improvements
into our sport that the system is developing.

Chris - we thank you.


Wayne Retter


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Dear BritDisc

In reference to a recent spam email claiming to be from the son of the 
deceased president of the republic of the Congo, please just erase it. The 
serious fraud office have asked that these messages be forwarded on to them, 
which I have done, for investigation. I know that you're all too smart to 
even consider that this was genuine, but the BBC's Working Lunch programme 
recently highlighted that this is becoming an increasing problem so better 
safe than sorry.

Jazz
(not the son of any dead African dictator)


>From: Victor Kabila <victorkabila24us@yahoo.com>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: HUMBLE ASSISTANCE
>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 02:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
>FROM VICTOR KABILA
>TELE+27-82-506-8969
>Email;victorkabila24us@yahoo.com
>
>                      HUMBLE ASSISTANCE
>
>ATTN: DIRECTOR/CEO.
>
>I do foresee the surprise this letter will bring to
>you as it comes from a stranger but rest assured as it
>comes with best intention. However, your address was
>courtesy of a business journal at the World Trade
>Center in Johannesburg, but after due consideration
>from your profile, I became aware of your credibility
>of handling this trust and my future. Thus after my
>humble decision to solicit your understanding and
>co-operation in this transaction as it will be
>beneficial to all of us involved.
>My name is Victor Kabila from the Democratic Republic
>of Congo, the first son of second wife to Laurent
>Kabila. As you know that my father Laurent Kabila,
>President of the Republic of Congo was assassinated by
>a bodyguard on the 16th of January 2001. My late
>father used his position to make some fortune for
>himself and his children. I was studying overseas when
>my father died and was forced to return for his
>burial. After his burial the family started having
>problems, which is phenomenal with polygamous
>families.
>He married three wives and had ten children. It is as
>a result of this problem that I beckoned on my
>father’s attorney for advice. And he notified me about
>my father’s “WILL” with his chamber. When I was going
>through the “WILL” I discovered that my late father
>foresaw what would happen in future when he died. That
>led him to share his assets among his children. He
>drew my attention where he states:
>“As a father who loves and care for his children, I
>took it upon myself to share my properties to the
>three families I have. For you Victor, I have a box
>deposited with a security company in Johannesburg,
>South Africa for you to take care of yourself, your
>mother, your brother and two sisters in case you see
>me no more. The box contains US$25.5 Million (Twenty
>Five Million Five hundred thousand United States
>Dollars). I deposited the said box in Johannesburg,
>South Africa as valuables. You have to go to my
>attorney and collect a letter containing all you need
>to know about the box. Besides, the box was deposited
>in your name and you alone can claim it”
>With these as my father’s words, I see that my
>father’s family cannot accommodate me and Joseph, now
>the President of Democratic Republic of Congo, I
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Is it just me that's getting really sick of BritDisc being used as a
accomodation finding resource?

Sure, if you want to find Ultimate players to live with, go along to a
practice and ask some of them if they know anyone with a room to spare. But
bear in mind that the vast majority of britdisc readers don't even live in
London, let alone care whether you want accomodation there.

Ralf.

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Ralf, take a deep breath.... these people have only just arrived or are out of the country at the moment, they just want to get sorted ASAP. If you don't want to know just hit delete, it is not a big issue.

Hannah

Lighting Design Engineer
LiDAC
Tel :  020 8781 8315
Fax : 020 8781 8018





"Ranulf Doswell" <ralf@ranulf.net>@warwick.ac.uk on 07/24/2001 12:45:50 PM

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Is it just me that's getting really sick of BritDisc being used as a
accomodation finding resource?

Sure, if you want to find Ultimate players to live with, go along to a
practice and ask some of them if they know anyone with a room to spare. But
bear in mind that the vast majority of britdisc readers don't even live in
London, let alone care whether you want accomodation there.

Ralf.





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Did anyone else have a problem with Leeds re-seeding themselves from 9th to
4th after Clapham pulled out of T4 at such short notice?

Is there an "official" BUF rule for re-seeding after teams pull out between
tours?  

Guy
BAF OPEN

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ABSOLUTELY

Chris WELL DONE

Fatboy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dora Kemp <dora_kemp@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Arun Sharma <Arun_S@hway.co.uk>; <cjhughes@talk21.com>
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Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:26 PM
Subject: Tour 4 thanks


> Hi all
> 
> First of all many thanks to Arun and all the Leeds
> players who ran Tour 4. It was a great weekend.
> 
> Unfortunately Graham and I had to leave before the end
> of the final as we had to take someone to the train
> station before 6.40. I heard at a service station on
> the M1 that you were all so kind to show me such
> support over my role on the U8 committee. I really
> appreciate it and apologies for not being there in
> person.
> 
> The real person to thank though is Chris Hughes who
> has dedicated an enormous amount of his time to
> running the Tour over these past few years. We as an
> Ultimate community owe him a lot.
> 
> I hope that there is someone out there who can step
> into his shoes and do as great a job as he has done.
> 
> Thanks again
> Dora
> 
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Subject: RE: London room? - answer for Ralf
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yes Ralf, its just you - whats the big deal -if u
ain't interested in the subject just delete it.
Would it make a difference if people were looking for
accommodation in any other city?  People who play
ultimate like living with other people who play
ultimate. 
Chill out!

Ed - Lurkers


--- Ranulf Doswell <ralf@ranulf.net> wrote: > Is it
just me that's getting really sick of BritDisc
> being used as a
> accomodation finding resource?
> 
> Sure, if you want to find Ultimate players to live
> with, go along to a
> practice and ask some of them if they know anyone
> with a room to spare. But
> bear in mind that the vast majority of britdisc
> readers don't even live in
> London, let alone care whether you want accomodation
> there.
> 
> Ralf.
>  

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Sorry Ralf, but I think Hannah's right.

But:

Is there any mileage in a regionalised accommodation and lift request list.
Quite alot of mail to britdisc is from folk wanting a ride to an Ultimate
event. If it was regionalised and seperate from britdisc, it could be a more
useful system that could even be expanded into a sort of informal
travel/accom agency, exclusive for Ulties.

Any thoughts from anyone?

Whilst I am writing, I run an organisation that creates and organises
tailored, international events - mainly challenge based. If anyone has an
idea for an Ultimate based event (that wouldn't conflict with other tours)
that they would like to happen, if only someone else would organise
it.....mail me. We are not a charity, but we largely get our cut from
sponsorship and coverage, not participants.

I suppose I can expect a plethora of messages complaining that commercial
adverts aren't allowed either....

Richard Anstis
Givitago Event Creators
Your Dream, Our Goal


----- Original Message -----
From: <hannah.easter@philips.com>
To: <ralf@ranulf.net>
Cc: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: London room?


>
> Ralf, take a deep breath.... these people have only just arrived or are
out of the country at the moment, they just want to get sorted ASAP. If you
don't want to know just hit delete, it is not a big issue.
>
> Hannah
>
> Lighting Design Engineer
> LiDAC
> Tel :  020 8781 8315
> Fax : 020 8781 8018
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ranulf Doswell" <ralf@ranulf.net>@warwick.ac.uk on 07/24/2001 12:45:50 PM
>
> Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
>
>
> To:     "Britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> cc:      (bcc: Hannah Easter/CRO/LIGHTING/PHILIPS)
> Subject:  RE: London room?
> Classification:
>
>
>
> Is it just me that's getting really sick of BritDisc being used as a
> accomodation finding resource?
>
> Sure, if you want to find Ultimate players to live with, go along to a
> practice and ask some of them if they know anyone with a room to spare.
But
> bear in mind that the vast majority of britdisc readers don't even live in
> London, let alone care whether you want accomodation there.
>
> Ralf.
>
>
>
>
>
>


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I think the results show that leeds entirely justified their seeding.

I apologise on behalf of our club for withdrawing so late. but will not
apologise on behalf of the indivduals who caused it to happen. you know who
you are.

RV
Clapham

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Guy.Kennett@meuk.mee.com
Sent: 24 July 2001 12:58
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: T4 Seedings



Did anyone else have a problem with Leeds re-seeding themselves from 9th to
4th after Clapham pulled out of T4 at such short notice?

Is there an "official" BUF rule for re-seeding after teams pull out between
tours?

Guy
BAF OPEN

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If you aren't interested - delete now.

having spent an age trying to find a good source of sacks, I've finally
found an importer of high quality bags at good prices. the guys name is
gavin at sandstorm clothing.

www.sandstormclothing.com has a few bags to look at, but contact them
direct - sales@sandstormclothing.com for newest lines including the
excellent sandmaster, glomaster (lighty up thingies), original 'hacky sack'
bags, fat crochet sacks and many others.

if there is enough interest I'll bring some to sell at tournaments - lemme
know

RV

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Absolutely
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>
> Ralf, take a deep breath.... these people have only just arrived or are
out of the country at the moment, they just want to get sorted ASAP. If you
don't want to know just hit delete, it is not a big issue.
>
> Hannah
>
> Lighting Design Engineer
> LiDAC
> Tel :  020 8781 8315
> Fax : 020 8781 8018
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ranulf Doswell" <ralf@ranulf.net>@warwick.ac.uk on 07/24/2001 12:45:50 PM
>
> Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
>
>
> To:     "Britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> cc:      (bcc: Hannah Easter/CRO/LIGHTING/PHILIPS)
> Subject:  RE: London room?
> Classification:
>
>
>
> Is it just me that's getting really sick of BritDisc being used as a
> accomodation finding resource?
>
> Sure, if you want to find Ultimate players to live with, go along to a
> practice and ask some of them if they know anyone with a room to spare.
But
> bear in mind that the vast majority of britdisc readers don't even live in
> London, let alone care whether you want accomodation there.
>
> Ralf.
>
>
>
>
>

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I don't want to keep this discussion live more than it should be but ...  

		.. maybe the local ultimatelists are more appropriate,
londonleague mail list or oxford ultimate mail list or any number of other
local lists depending on where you are - far more likely to find local
players who aren't nessessarily on britdisc and less likely to interupt
the thought processes of a lancaster based engineer.  Christ if there were
any more mails about house hunting we'd have almost as many as the mails
about the mails about house hunting! 

Ben

> > Ralf, take a deep breath.... these people have only just arrived or are
> out of the country at the moment, they just want to get sorted ASAP. If you
> don't want to know just hit delete, it is not a big issue.
> >
> > Hannah

> > Is it just me that's getting really sick of BritDisc being used as a
> > accomodation finding resource?
> >
> > Sure, if you want to find Ultimate players to live with, go along to a
> > practice and ask some of them if they know anyone with a room to spare.
> But
> > bear in mind that the vast majority of britdisc readers don't even live in
> > London, let alone care whether you want accomodation there.
> >
> > Ralf.

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Hi all,

Im looking for a room in Africa for the 3rd of august, until the 5th of sept, 6pm
, close to Kabbila olds house if possible  and not far from
an ultimate pitch. could anybody help me? By the way, Im the seventh grandchild
of the 3rd nephew of Milosevitch sister in law.
Thanks a lot


erm...sorry, bad joke...

C.

Ben Booth wrote:

> I don't want to keep this discussion live more than it should be but ...
>
>                 .. maybe the local ultimatelists are more appropriate,
> londonleague mail list or oxford ultimate mail list or any number of other
> local lists depending on where you are - far more likely to find local
> players who aren't nessessarily on britdisc and less likely to interupt
> the thought processes of a lancaster based engineer.  Christ if there were
> any more mails about house hunting we'd have almost as many as the mails
> about the mails about house hunting!
>
> Ben
>
> > > Ralf, take a deep breath.... these people have only just arrived or are
> > out of the country at the moment, they just want to get sorted ASAP. If you
> > don't want to know just hit delete, it is not a big issue.
> > >
> > > Hannah
>
> > > Is it just me that's getting really sick of BritDisc being used as a
> > > accomodation finding resource?
> > >
> > > Sure, if you want to find Ultimate players to live with, go along to a
> > > practice and ask some of them if they know anyone with a room to spare.
> > But
> > > bear in mind that the vast majority of britdisc readers don't even live in
> > > London, let alone care whether you want accomodation there.
> > >
> > > Ralf.

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Final thought:

notice board on BUF site for:
- lifts (offered/wanted)
- equipment (offered/wanted/recommended)
- tips/advice/questions (offered/wanted)
- finding lost people
- accomodation (offered/wanted)
- pick-ups (offered/wanted) --> when less urgent/ time-critical
- etc...

Hedge

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Booth [mailto:booth@atm.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: 24 July 2001 15:47
To: Adam Batchelor
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: London room?


I don't want to keep this discussion live more than it should be but ...  

		.. maybe the local ultimatelists are more appropriate,
londonleague mail list or oxford ultimate mail list or any number of other
local lists depending on where you are - far more likely to find local
players who aren't nessessarily on britdisc and less likely to interupt
the thought processes of a lancaster based engineer.  Christ if there were
any more mails about house hunting we'd have almost as many as the mails
about the mails about house hunting! 

Ben

> > Ralf, take a deep breath.... these people have only just arrived or are
> out of the country at the moment, they just want to get sorted ASAP. If
you
> don't want to know just hit delete, it is not a big issue.
> >
> > Hannah

> > Is it just me that's getting really sick of BritDisc being used as a
> > accomodation finding resource?
> >
> > Sure, if you want to find Ultimate players to live with, go along to a
> > practice and ask some of them if they know anyone with a room to spare.
> But
> > bear in mind that the vast majority of britdisc readers don't even live
in
> > London, let alone care whether you want accomodation there.
> >
> > Ralf.

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From: "Justin Parkhurst" <justin_parkhurst@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: T4 Seedings
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I have to disagree with this point.  The argument that many people were 
making over the weekend is that Leeds put themselves in a position that made 
it, in theory, easier to move up to the semi-finals.

All respect to the other teams, Leeds placed themselves in a pool that read:

Druids, Leeds, TeamShark, Fusion

Had they simply moved everyone up, they _would_ have been in a pool that 
looked like this:

Clapham, Chevy, Fusion, Leeds

Considering Clapham and Chevy made the final (and are the overall points 
leaders), you can argue that this pool would have been much harder to crack 
the top 2 spots.

Also, the crossover teams (9-12) were storming this weekend, with 3 
crossovers happening (Smash&Grab, Whey, Head Rush all cracking the top 8).  
Concievably Leeds would have had to play in a cross over if they did not 
make the top 2 in their pool.  We can only guess about the result, but a 
semi final placement sure does earn you more points than a 9-12 slot.

At the end of the day does it matter?  Perhaps.  The tour goes on points 
based on final placement at each tour event.  I haven't been looking at the 
numbers or points, but if its close on points between Leeds, Fusion, 
TeamShark, Red, Druids, or anyone else gunning for Worlds, then there may be 
reasonable justification for complaint.

Then there are smaller points, like the fact that BAF had to play a 8v9 
crossover (which they narrowly lost), rather than a 7v10 - or TeamShark and 
Fusion would have had to play different crossover teams.

All in all, the seeding can make a difference, and I think that is what 
people were having problems with.

-Justin
BAF Open/OW!/One time Shark




>From: "Harvey" <harvey@backspin.co.uk>
>To: "Britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: T4 Seedings
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:56:56 +0100
>
>I think the results show that leeds entirely justified their seeding.
>
>I apologise on behalf of our club for withdrawing so late. but will not
>apologise on behalf of the indivduals who caused it to happen. you know who
>you are.
>
>RV
>Clapham
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On
>Behalf Of Guy.Kennett@meuk.mee.com
>Sent: 24 July 2001 12:58
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: T4 Seedings
>
>
>
>Did anyone else have a problem with Leeds re-seeding themselves from 9th to
>4th after Clapham pulled out of T4 at such short notice?
>
>Is there an "official" BUF rule for re-seeding after teams pull out between
>tours?
>
>Guy
>BAF OPEN
>


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Whatever people have to say about this, surely the result must be that
anything to do with seedings at all, in any tour event should be dealt with
by the BUF or one of its representatives (I know at least three were
there!).

Also, why is that any places had to be swapped at all. We ended up playing
only four games all weekend because of what happened, is this fair? Just
because we are not in the top eight?

Alex Livingstone
(Point Blank / Mwnci See)

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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>any ideas on the punishment for claphams late withdrawal from tour 4.</DIV>
<DIV>seem to remember some teams getting black listed from tour 2 even though </DIV>
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Mornin' BritDisc

I'm hoping to put together a small tournament on either the weekend of the
8/9 September or w/e 15/16 September, and had intended to have it at the
same site as one of the GB training sessions last year.  Unfortunately that
venue's unavailable, so I was hoping someone could tell me the name of the
school in Hitchin that was used for Tours a couple of years ago.  
And, just as importantly, I wanted to gauge interest in the event.  I'd only
be looking to make it 8, perhaps 16 teams, and I'd be doing my best to make
the weekend different.

Cheers,

Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk

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All,

I'd thought I'd jump in before this gets out of hand, especially the
discussions of 'punishing' Clapham. Whilst the prospect of a public flogging
down on the common does seem to be highly entertaining, I'd like to remind
people that there are rules laid down for penalties for a late withdrawal
(as the Clapham team should well know since Si Hill wrote them). As to the
seeding issue, this is also being looked into by the u8c (this being the job
we all want to get out of - any guesses why?).

We have had a number of formal complaints from a number of teams over the
whole issue, however before lots of teams get on their high horses over the
seeding issues, I have one point to make - At least Rick and Arun got off
their arses and organised a tour event which is more than can be said for a
lot of teams who complained.

Chris
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To the Ultimate Committee.

We only found out about clapham's withdrawal on Friday. The schedule had
been written and we wanted to change it as little as possible.  We tried
getting hold of the u8c committee but failed. When we reseeded the teams it
was unavoidable that one team or another would have had to have byes and
have played less games....  we were just trying to limit the damage late on
Friday with a busy day at work - hence the action taken.

You may feel that this sounds a bit dodgy but we had to make a decision and
the action taken was the easiest and quickest way.   I apologise to the
ultimate committee and any teams that feel hard done by but as any other
tournament director will confirm, last minutes changes cause problems which
often lead decisions that are sometimes not favorable.

Please be assured that any decision made was for the interest of all teams.
Apologies once again and I hope you all still respect Rik and I as
tournament directors  who would still want to hold a tour event in Leeds.

Arun/Rik


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">We only found out about clapham's =
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change it as little as possible.&nbsp; We tried getting hold of the u8c =
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less games....&nbsp; we were just trying to limit the damage late on =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">You may feel that this sounds a bit =
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committee and any teams that feel hard done by but as any other =
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which often lead decisions that are sometimes not favorable.</FONT></P>

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made was for the interest of all teams.&nbsp; Apologies once again and =
I hope you all still respect Rik and I as tournament directors&nbsp; =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Arun/Rik</FONT>
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Arun/Rik
 
I sympathise with your Friday morning dilemma, but surely the easiest thing
to do would be leave the 4th space empty and not promote LLL from 9th to
4th. Admittedly this would have left byes in the fight for semi final
places. But that's not your fault. 
 
I thought the structure of the tour is supposed to make it impossible for
any team outside the upper group to penetrate the top half of that group,
over one tour event. 
 
Also by promoting LLL from 9th to 4th they would not receive the full
implications of getting knocked out of the top eight from the previous tour.
The tour is about consistency of play not what you can pull out of the bag
on the day.
 
Jon

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To the Ultimate Committee. 

We only found out about clapham's withdrawal on Friday. The schedule had
been written and we wanted to change it as little as possible.  We tried
getting hold of the u8c committee but failed. When we reseeded the teams it
was unavoidable that one team or another would have had to have byes and
have played less games....  we were just trying to limit the damage late on
Friday with a busy day at work - hence the action taken.

You may feel that this sounds a bit dodgy but we had to make a decision and
the action taken was the easiest and quickest way.   I apologise to the
ultimate committee and any teams that feel hard done by but as any other
tournament director will confirm, last minutes changes cause problems which
often lead decisions that are sometimes not favorable.

Please be assured that any decision made was for the interest of all teams.
Apologies once again and I hope you all still respect Rik and I as
tournament directors  who would still want to hold a tour event in Leeds.

Arun/Rik 


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I think what really rankles some folks is the APPEARANCE of you guys
blatantly cheating.

I know that as a TD and person in a BUF leadership position, I often have to
make decisions that are blatantly unfair to MY OWN TEAM to avoid the
appearance of being partisan and of cheating.  I can name ten people off the
top of my head who have made decisions detrimental to their own teams in the
past year in order to be seen as being fair.

That said, I find it hard to believe that you guys didn't look at your new
pool and think 'Well, that might look a bit odd.'  Add to that the
unfortunate coincidence of a problem with seedings at your most recent co-ed
tournament, which was clearly a simple misunderstanding and nothing
malicious, and it just looks really bad.

Compounding the problem is that different decisions would have given teams
close to you in the points standings a d'mn good chance of making the
semi's.  At the end of the day- that is what the row is about.  It LOOKS
like you guys cheated your @sses off.

And although it really screwed my own team's chances. I'm going to assume
that you made your decisions as best you could at the time.  Maybe next
time....  And  hopefully this will resolve itself quickly.  I know you
worked really hard to get a Tour together, and that its a thankless job.

Nancy Stebbing
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Dear All - 

Leeds - thanks for organising a great tour.  

The weekend situation sucks - Leeds proved that they were good enough to
take the seeding that they 'awarded' themselves - but they did not deserve
it after their previous Tour performance.

If the seedings had been recast as to be fair and open, the following would
have occurred:

Top 8:
Clapham
Druids
Chevvy
TeamShark
Fusion
Red
BAF
Leeds

Pools would have been 1,3,6,8 and 2,4,5,7:

Pool A: Clapham, Chevvy, Red and Leeds
Pool B: Druids, TeamShark, Fusion, BAF

or alternatively, Leeds were not promoted (i.e. Position 4 being a void):

Pool A:  Clapham, Chevvy, Fusion and BAF
Pool B:  Druids, TeamShark and Red

A tough situation and a mess - made ugly.  

I am sure that Leeds did not cheat - the idea should offend all Ultimate
players.  

However, if the points for the Tour are going to affect the decision over
the Worlds, a conclusion which is fair to everybody has to be found.  The
top 2 places for the event are decided - but the chasing pack is VERY close.

Milk - TeamShark


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I seem to remember this happening before in the first U8 tour, and teams were moved up then. So it seems that it should have happened again here there really should be no problem with that. The fact that leeds took 4th spot was not ideal but once you have
done the schedual you do go for the easiest option.

Anyway what is done is done. Leeds played well and earnt there place can we just leave it at that but maybe set a rule of thumb for the future so as to avoid this?

Hannah

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Jon Copeland <jon.copeland@bookham.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 07/25/2001 02:15:38 PM

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To:     "Britdisc (E-mail)" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
cc:      (bcc: Hannah Easter/CRO/LIGHTING/PHILIPS)
Subject:  RE: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!!
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Arun/Rik

I sympathise with your Friday morning dilemma, but surely the easiest thing
to do would be leave the 4th space empty and not promote LLL from 9th to
4th. Admittedly this would have left byes in the fight for semi final
places. But that's not your fault.

I thought the structure of the tour is supposed to make it impossible for
any team outside the upper group to penetrate the top half of that group,
over one tour event.

Also by promoting LLL from 9th to 4th they would not receive the full
implications of getting knocked out of the top eight from the previous tour.
The tour is about consistency of play not what you can pull out of the bag
on the day.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Arun Sharma [mailto:Arun_S@hway.co.uk]
Sent: 25 July 2001 13:20
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!!



To the Ultimate Committee.

We only found out about clapham's withdrawal on Friday. The schedule had
been written and we wanted to change it as little as possible.  We tried
getting hold of the u8c committee but failed. When we reseeded the teams it
was unavoidable that one team or another would have had to have byes and
have played less games....  we were just trying to limit the damage late on
Friday with a busy day at work - hence the action taken.

You may feel that this sounds a bit dodgy but we had to make a decision and
the action taken was the easiest and quickest way.   I apologise to the
ultimate committee and any teams that feel hard done by but as any other
tournament director will confirm, last minutes changes cause problems which
often lead decisions that are sometimes not favorable.

Please be assured that any decision made was for the interest of all teams.
Apologies once again and I hope you all still respect Rik and I as
tournament directors  who would still want to hold a tour event in Leeds.

Arun/Rik


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all this talk about what happened at Leeds is fasicnating. 

Some of the Britdisc readers weren't there, any chance of someone actually
posting the *results* of the tournament? I keep reading "leeds did well" -
what, did they come fourth, or eighth?

Andy
Chevvy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hannah.easter@philips.com [mailto:hannah.easter@philips.com]
> Sent: 25 July 2001 14:24
> To: jon.copeland@bookham.com; Arun_S@hway.co.uk; 
> rikshipley@ntlworld.com
> Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> I seem to remember this happening before in the first U8 
> tour, and teams were moved up then. So it seems that it 
> should have happened again here there really should be no 
> problem with that. The fact that leeds took 4th spot was not 
> ideal but once you have
> done the schedual you do go for the easiest option.
> 
> Anyway what is done is done. Leeds played well and earnt 
> there place can we just leave it at that but maybe set a rule 
> of thumb for the future so as to avoid this?
> 
> Hannah
> 
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> 
> Jon Copeland <jon.copeland@bookham.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 
> 07/25/2001 02:15:38 PM
> 
> Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> 
> 
> To:     "Britdisc (E-mail)" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> cc:      (bcc: Hannah Easter/CRO/LIGHTING/PHILIPS)
> Subject:  RE: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!!
> Classification:
> 
> 
> 
> Arun/Rik
> 
> I sympathise with your Friday morning dilemma, but surely the 
> easiest thing
> to do would be leave the 4th space empty and not promote LLL 
> from 9th to
> 4th. Admittedly this would have left byes in the fight for semi final
> places. But that's not your fault.
> 
> I thought the structure of the tour is supposed to make it 
> impossible for
> any team outside the upper group to penetrate the top half of 
> that group,
> over one tour event.
> 
> Also by promoting LLL from 9th to 4th they would not receive the full
> implications of getting knocked out of the top eight from the 
> previous tour.
> The tour is about consistency of play not what you can pull 
> out of the bag
> on the day.
> 
> Jon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arun Sharma [mailto:Arun_S@hway.co.uk]
> Sent: 25 July 2001 13:20
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> To the Ultimate Committee.
> 
> We only found out about clapham's withdrawal on Friday. The 
> schedule had
> been written and we wanted to change it as little as 
> possible.  We tried
> getting hold of the u8c committee but failed. When we 
> reseeded the teams it
> was unavoidable that one team or another would have had to 
> have byes and
> have played less games....  we were just trying to limit the 
> damage late on
> Friday with a busy day at work - hence the action taken.
> 
> You may feel that this sounds a bit dodgy but we had to make 
> a decision and
> the action taken was the easiest and quickest way.   I 
> apologise to the
> ultimate committee and any teams that feel hard done by but 
> as any other
> tournament director will confirm, last minutes changes cause 
> problems which
> often lead decisions that are sometimes not favorable.
> 
> Please be assured that any decision made was for the interest 
> of all teams.
> Apologies once again and I hope you all still respect Rik and I as
> tournament directors  who would still want to hold a tour 
> event in Leeds.
> 
> Arun/Rik
> 
> 
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I don't know if every body got this mail yesterday, but I didn't and I have 
just found it on the Britdisc archive. It puts the point across very nicely - 
very similar to Milky's below, but slightly more accurate. ;-)
I thought I would resend it just in case.

*********************************************************************

I have to disagree with this point (Harvey's email saying that Leeds justified 
themselves in the end).  The argument that many people were 
making over the weekend is that Leeds put themselves in a position that made 
it, in theory, easier to move up to the semi-finals.

All respect to the other teams, Leeds placed themselves in a pool that read:

Druids, Leeds, TeamShark, Fusion

Had they simply moved everyone up, they _would_ have been in a pool that 
looked like this:

Clapham, Chevy, Fusion, Leeds

Considering Clapham and Chevy made the final (and are the overall points 
leaders), you can argue that this pool would have been much harder to crack 
the top 2 spots.

Also, the crossover teams (9-12) were storming this weekend, with 3 
crossovers happening (Smash&Grab, Whey, Head Rush all cracking the top 8).  
Concievably Leeds would have had to play in a cross over if they did not 
make the top 2 in their pool.  We can only guess about the result, but a 
semi final placement sure does earn you more points than a 9-12 slot.

At the end of the day does it matter?  Perhaps.  The tour goes on points 
based on final placement at each tour event.  I haven't been looking at the 
numbers or points, but if its close on points between Leeds, Fusion, 
TeamShark, Red, Druids, or anyone else gunning for Worlds, then there may be 
reasonable justification for complaint.

Then there are smaller points, like the fact that BAF had to play a 8v9 
crossover (which they narrowly lost), rather than a 7v10 - or TeamShark and 
Fusion would have had to play different crossover teams.

All in all, the seeding can make a difference, and I think that is what 
people were having problems with.

-Justin
BAF Open/OW!/One time Shark




>===== Original Message From James Hammersley <hammersleyj@shreeveport.com> 
=====
>Dear All -
>
>Leeds - thanks for organising a great tour.
>
>The weekend situation sucks - Leeds proved that they were good enough to
>take the seeding that they 'awarded' themselves - but they did not deserve
>it after their previous Tour performance.
>
>If the seedings had been recast as to be fair and open, the following would
>have occurred:
>
>Top 8:
>Clapham
>Druids
>Chevvy
>TeamShark
>Fusion
>Red
>BAF
>Leeds
>
>Pools would have been 1,3,6,8 and 2,4,5,7:
>
>Pool A: Clapham, Chevvy, Red and Leeds
>Pool B: Druids, TeamShark, Fusion, BAF
>
>or alternatively, Leeds were not promoted (i.e. Position 4 being a void):
>
>Pool A:  Clapham, Chevvy, Fusion and BAF
>Pool B:  Druids, TeamShark and Red
>
>A tough situation and a mess - made ugly.
>
>I am sure that Leeds did not cheat - the idea should offend all Ultimate
>players.
>
>However, if the points for the Tour are going to affect the decision over
>the Worlds, a conclusion which is fair to everybody has to be found.  The
>top 2 places for the event are decided - but the chasing pack is VERY close.
>
>Milk - TeamShark

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<DIV></DIV>&gt;I assume that any Tour points Clapham2 gained at this event should be taken 
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   Cambridge Ultimate announces 

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   Saturday August 11th, 2001, Cambridge. 

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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 07:26:52 +0000
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Nancy, I can fully understand your grievances at the seeding for the last 
Tour but I do think it is important that we make sure that we keep to the 
truth.

>And although it really screwed my own team's chances.

What chances?????
Wigsy

"Less talk, more D"



>From: "Nancy Stebbing" <nancy.stebbing@tesco.net>
>To: "britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: Re: Confessions of a Tournament Director!!!!
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:38:08 +0100
>
>I think what really rankles some folks is the APPEARANCE of you guys
>blatantly cheating.
>
>I know that as a TD and person in a BUF leadership position, I often have 
>to
>make decisions that are blatantly unfair to MY OWN TEAM to avoid the
>appearance of being partisan and of cheating.  I can name ten people off 
>the
>top of my head who have made decisions detrimental to their own teams in 
>the
>past year in order to be seen as being fair.
>
>That said, I find it hard to believe that you guys didn't look at your new
>pool and think 'Well, that might look a bit odd.'  Add to that the
>unfortunate coincidence of a problem with seedings at your most recent 
>co-ed
>tournament, which was clearly a simple misunderstanding and nothing
>malicious, and it just looks really bad.
>
>Compounding the problem is that different decisions would have given teams
>close to you in the points standings a d'mn good chance of making the
>semi's.  At the end of the day- that is what the row is about.  It LOOKS
>like you guys cheated your @sses off.
>
>And although it really screwed my own team's chances. I'm going to assume
>that you made your decisions as best you could at the time.  Maybe next
>time....  And  hopefully this will resolve itself quickly.  I know you
>worked really hard to get a Tour together, and that its a thankless job.
>
>Nancy Stebbing
>BUF Mixed Coordinator
>
>
>
>


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At the risk of losing a massive game of chicken...

Is there a venue or date for outdoor nationals this year?  If not, are 
there bids in process?

Dave.
Chevron.

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It is highly likely that Nationals will be held in Daventry, by Ian
Stebbing, Nancy Stebbing, and myself after an approach by a sports event
organisation to Nancy.

Likely dates are either last weekend in September or first weekend in
October.

For those of you who don't read any information sent out to you at the
beginning of the season, Nationals will be a straight 32 team knockout,
seedings based on final tour rankings.

More details to follow.

Chris

(Cue 1001 hits on the most popular map sites as everyone wonders where the
hell Daventry is!)

-----Original Message-----
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At the risk of losing a massive game of chicken...

Is there a venue or date for outdoor nationals this year?  If not, are 
there bids in process?

Dave.
Chevron.

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Mal from Slipdisc wrote:
>Wayne, is there a reason why for T3 we received 21.5 pts, whereas the positions 
>above and belo scored 42 and 30(ish) respectively?

@$#~ !!!

Looks like my spreadsheet contains a hard-coded score instead of the
calculated 36 points...

Why ? it lookslike it's 'cos it's a copy of last years spreadsheet and
whoever finished in 28th last year had some points deducted for
something...

What does it mean ?

In the Grand Total after T3, Slipdisc have 136pts, promoting them from
23rd to 22nd (over Craic with 125pts)

Sorry about any confusion this has caused.

Wayne

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Hi,

A full report on last weekend's 6th Hayling Hurricane is now on OB 
Megazine, penned in style by the Damn Massive.
www.obmegazine.com

There's also photos from the Hurricane at www.discgolfphotos.com

The new issue of Disc Golf World News has just been published. There's a 
really good story by Ruth Steele (remember her!) about how she's getting on 
in the States.....she's lovin' it. Ruth is also representing Britain in the 
World Games in Akita, Japan next month, along with Derek Robins.
More info on the World Games in Akita is available at www.wfdf.org

There's also a big feature on last months European Championships in Oslo 
and an article encouraging Americans to head over to the UK/Europe to play.
Whitcombe Disc Golf in Dorset gets a really good mention as does the Disc 
Golf Holidays idea that Discology and Whitcombe Disc Golf are pioneering.
check www.discgolfholidays.com for more details.

There's a DISC JAM happening in West London on Sunday 19th August at 
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Disc Golf, Ultimate, Goaltimate, DDC and Freestyle - Are you coming?
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Disc Jam needs more Ultimate and Goaltimate teams to support the event.
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Richard

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ATTENTION NORTHERN ROSES

Could the contact for Northern Roses please email me as soon as possible. I
appear to be missing your Tour 4 deposit.

Cheers
Dora Kemp
Ultim-8 Treasurer

McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge,
CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538

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From: "Cahill,Maria" <Maria.Cahill@uk.gases.boc.com>
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Subject: RE: Potential Tournament in mid September
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Does anyone know if Glastonbury  is happening or not and if so when?

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Hims [mailto:richard.hims@herts.businesslink.co.uk]
Sent: 25 July 2001 9:16 AM
To: 'britdisc@warwick.ac.uk'
Subject: Potential Tournament in mid September


Mornin' BritDisc

I'm hoping to put together a small tournament on either the weekend of the
8/9 September or w/e 15/16 September, and had intended to have it at the
same site as one of the GB training sessions last year.  Unfortunately that
venue's unavailable, so I was hoping someone could tell me the name of the
school in Hitchin that was used for Tours a couple of years ago.  
And, just as importantly, I wanted to gauge interest in the event.  I'd only
be looking to make it 8, perhaps 16 teams, and I'd be doing my best to make
the weekend different.

Cheers,

Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk

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BDers et al,

clapham are having an open practice this sunday at 4pm, on clapham common by
clapham south tube station (locals, note the change of venue). all competent
players welcome.

RV

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Since no-one else has done it yet, here's the list of final positions
from Tour 4 @ Leeds.

Don't jump to any conclusions on who got how many points, and how the
final Tour Rankings work out - the u8c are working on that one!

>1. Clapham
>2. Chevron
>3. Leeds
>4. Druids
>5. Headrush
>6. Red
>7. Smash'n'Grab
>8. Whey
>9. Fusion
>10. TeamShark
>11. BAF
>12. Un Poco Loco
>13. Albatross
>14. NightFever
>15. Strange Blue
>16. NDY (No Damn Yanks)
>17. Slipdisc
>18. Hammerage
>19. Point Blank
>20. Flight Club
>21. Jedi
>22. Trigger Happy
>23. Mohawk Mwnci Magic
>24. Jammie Bodgers
>25. Northern Roses
>26. Mild Mannered Janitors

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Hi all at BD,

	Just in case you were not all yet aware of our presence.  This week saw
the birth of a new team to be based in Colchester.

VORTEX ELITE (CAMULODUNUM)

We are looking for any Ultimate or any other disc related players that
are local to Colchester that want to play.  Initially for fun and the
sake of slinging 175g of plastic around, but eventually compete in the
tournaments.

We're currently organising a venue to play (probably University of Essex
fields at Wivenhoe Park) dates and times will be announced as soon as we
get a feel for the numbers, we'd like to see some female representation
too if that's possible.

Ability level is not important.  Blind enthusiasm will suffice for now
:)

--Jim

Mail ulty@vros.demon.co.uk if you feel the urge.

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Hi All,

I've managed to find a great venue suitable for a tour sized event and I'm 
thinking of combining it with some beach ultimate in the second week of May 
next year. The problem - what is happening next year? Will there be a tour 
or anything similar?

Cheers
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was a pair of black teva sandals picked up at leeds?

I left them by the bench by pitch 3 after the first game sunday morning

Paul

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GLASTONBURY TOURNAMENT - 8th/9th September.

You can all stop nagging me now the t/ment has been booked!!  

One piece of advice if you don't enter you will regret it!!!  Space for  16
teams  but only 10 places left.

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From:		Miles Clarke [on behalf of Bud Tilton]
Date:		Wed Jul 25, 2001  9:33 am
Subject:	Disc Golf Day @ Oxford Sat 4th Aug 2001

OXDISC

This Event is an informal Pro-Am.

The Pros will include a handful of experienced players who compete on the
British Tour & Know the Oxford course. The Ams will be those who
aren't/don't. Ultimate players are encouraged to enter the Ultrastar
division.

Muster is 10:00 Saturday @ Plasterers Arms, St.Clements, Oxford.

We will play the South Park 14 before an early lunch followed by the
Headington Hill 11.

Sunday is available for more golf a.m & Ultimate p.m. Alternatively we
could indulge Double Disc Court or Discathon.

Any one wishing to stop-over Saturday night should at least have floor
space. A Cowley Road Curry would suit.

FFI 01865 749 355

pp Bud Stilton.


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Hi all,

I am looking for the results (first four places if possible but winners will do)
of student tournaments for as long ago as people can remember. I am also 
looking for spirit winners for the same tournaments. I have looked at the 
student e-groups archive to get some and tried the britdisc archive but had 
trouble accessing all the files.

For 2000-2001 i just need scotland regionals and indoor nationals
For 1999-2000 I need SE, North, Midlands and Scotland regionals and outdoor 
nationals at bakewell.
For all years before these i haven't got anything.

If you could help me out at all i would be very greatful. it is for a website 
that will be posted in september this year at studentultimate.com

Thanks to those people who filled in a questionaire for me a tour 3 (?) via Si 
Weeks. The first two will be on the site in September.

Finally has anyone got Jolyon's(?!) e-mail address from Imperial/ druids?

Cheers

Dave B

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By amazing coincidence, I was thinking of posting a message asking a similar
question about UK Nationals tournaments.  Surely there must be an archive
that exists outside of Sammy's memory, or Wayne R's Ultimatum
back-catalogue....?

Can anyone help?

Cheers
Wayne
Team 42 - despite me, 7th best team in Germany!

"if you don't ask any questions,
you don't get any answers"

-----Original Message-----
From: david@barnard.tc [mailto:david@barnard.tc] 
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Hi all,

I am looking for the results (first four places if possible but winners will
do)
of student tournaments for as long ago as people can remember. 
...

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Hello everyone,

This is a note to confirm that Co-ed Nationals will be taking place as 
planned on the weekend of the 1st/2nd of September. The venue will be West 
Hill Park School, Titchfield, which is midway between Portsmouth and 
Southampton just off the M27 motorway.

There are four playing fields at the venue and the tournament will be 
attended by a maximum of sixteen teams. As this is Nationals with the top 
teams qualifying for World Clubs next summer, the tournament will initially 
be by invitation only to the top sixteen places in the co-ed tour. Nancy 
published the rankings after the Leeds Co-ed Tour (see forwarded message at 
the bottom of the email) and the top twelve teams have a guarenteed slot. In 
order to confirm their attendance I would ask these teams to send a cheque 
for the sum of £100. This should be made payable to ‘More Than Just A 
Tournament’ and sent to myself at the address below.

The remaining four slots will be allocated after the Nottingam Co-ed Tour. 
If after this allocation there are any additional slots available for Co-ed 
Nationals these will be allocated on a first-come, first-served basis.

Please note that I am not on Britdisc, so all relevant emails should be 
copied to this address. My internet access is also extremely limited, so a 
better method of contacting me will be by phone or SMS. My mobile number is 
07815 126 573.

See you all in Titchfield,

Si Weeks

address: 23 shepards close, fareham,  po14 3aj
email: mtjat@hotmail.com
mobile: 07815 126 573

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Mixed Standings from Nancy....

Overall Ranking         Team                          Points

1                       Chevron                        120             2-3   
                   KUPA                            92
2-3                     Randy                           92
4                       BAF Prague                      64
5                       Strange Blue                    50
6                       Cyrille                         48
7                       BAF Others                      38
8                       Little Shef                     37
9                       Wage                            29
10-11                   Sneeekys                        25
10-11                   Red                             25
12                      Angels                          20
13                      Aurora Borealis                 11
14-16                   Jedi Children                   10
14-16                   Sublime                         10
14-16                   Mowhawks                        10

All teams ranked 12 and above have already qualified for Mixed Nationals. 
Teams 13-16 can qualify by simply turning up for Event 3 at Nottingham on 
August Bank Holiday weekend.  Sam put on a great tourny last year- this one 
looks to be even better.

Any other teams can still qualify at Nottingham by placing 7th or higher at 
Nottingham.  It's not too late!!!!!!


Any question, get back to me....
Nancy (nancy.stebbing@tesco.net)





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Hello again,

Entry details out of the way it is time to think about accommodation. The 
best option is the Forte Posthouse, which is just a ten minute walk from the 
pitches and on the same site as the party venue. I have managed to negotiate 
an excellent deal, so if you are coming to Co-ed Nationals consider a bit of 
luxury for the night.

Double or twin ensuite rooms are £60 based on two people sharing and include 
a full English breakfast. The rates also include use of the gym (perhaps not 
that appealing), swimming pool, sauna and best of all a Jacuzzi. The 
standard bedrooms have digital TV, minibar and coffee making facilities. The 
deluxe rooms, which are available for the same price, also have a power 
shower and Sky television. The deluxe rooms will be allocated on a 
first-come, first-served basis.

In order to book you need to phone Samantha Johnstone on 0870 400 9028 and 
quote reference 3082. All rates can be paid on departure.

For students and others on a tight budget, camping will also be provided for 
a nominal fee. This will be located about a fifteen-minute walk from the 
party and twenty-five minutes from the pitches. The camping facilities here 
will be basic with only running water and a portaloo. Showering facilities 
will be available at the pitches.

The bookings at the Posthouse are starting to increase as the 1st/2nd 
September is during the run up to the Boat Show. To avoid disappointment I 
recommend booking rooms as soon as possible.

See you in Tichfield,

Si Weeks
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>>17. Slipdisc
>>18. Hammerage

should read:

17. Hammerage
18. Slipdisc

Apologies, and thanks for letting us know, to teams involved.

Wayne
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HEEYYYYYYY
CHIMICHANGA
why can't you buy those in the UK?
its a conspiracy i say!

so just a quikie (not that sort) to remind you that JUST BEFORE the Co-Ed Nationals is the chance to brush up, and warm up at Nottingham.
goto
www.flyghtclub.com/tour
for booking info, directions will be there soon.

Slightly different venue from last year, but just as exciting (for us at least) 

so GET YOUR GRASS SKIRT and your GUADY HAWIIAN SHIRT, and come on down.  so far there are 3, yes, THREE Euro teams

but i haven't sent a cheque i hear you say. well GET ON IT, then!

le Shark
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BD

Somehow a Red fleace appeared out of the back of my car at the end of =
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A&E at the beginning of the tournement - for some reason he left it in =
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If this is your fleace then send me an e-mail at this address and i will =
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Hi BritDisc,

I help with a youth group (14-18) and wanted to buy about 10 discs to use 
with them. Has anyone got any for sale, that don't cost too much?

Cheers

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Due to some unfavourable situations, we, in Nottingham had planned a little unofficial open event to coincide with the Co-Ed.

This is no longer neccesary.  we just found a more suitable site.

We have had initial interest in an Open Division and a great response for the COED.

Please post your cheques asap for the co-ed and if you are still interested in the open division we can still make that happen.  only 8 teams tho.

for CO-ED info please contact 
Emma - Munchkin@flyghtclub.com

for OPEN info please contact
Sam - Shark@flyghtclub.com

places in both divisions are still available.

AND DONT FORGET...  the optional, charity, HAT competition on Monday, proceeds will goto Childline

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BAF is planning (subject to numbers/eligibility) to take a masters team to
Hawaii. 
We have a considerable number of old fogies in our squad, but feel that most
of them are lame, so we need some stars. 
Our plan is to play as a Masters team next year through the 'Tour' as well
as practice together one day a month through the winter. We would like to
play competitively, but with the knowledge that the Yank and Canadian teams
are v. good we intend to enjoy the experience as well. 
We plan to take 12-16 players (male or female) and any hangers on that
people feel they want, need or are compelled to bring. 
If you are 30 or above by 31/12/2002 then you are old enough to play and we
need YOU. 
Everyone is guaranteed to be allowed to go unless we have more than 15
people in which case there will be a selection process based on who we like
the most (or gives the biggest bribe). 
If we do have to select it will be done as early as possible and a hefty
deposit will be taken soon after. 
The dates are the 4-11 August 2002. 
If you are interested, a maybe, a YesYesYes, or an olympic gold medalist
please contact us to make us feel popular. 
Contact either 
Guy Kennett  (Admin, logistics, barman)
E-mail Address(es):
guy.kennett@meuk.mee.com <mailto:guy.kennett@meuk.mee.com> 
or 
Sich (Training, tumbling, mad stuff)
E-mail Address(es):
hawaii@sich.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:hawaii@sich.fsnet.co.uk> 
We look forward to hearing from you (if our hearing aids are in, on, live
and turned up) 
Guy and Sich ( BAF )


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The Fluid Druids are happy to present, even if it is somewhat last
minute, the 20th edition of their infamous Ross on Wye Ultimate
Tournament.

when:   18 + 19 August 2001
where:  'the usual place' @ Ross on Wye

SEVENTEEN DAYS AND COUNTING...

There is room for 24 teams total, but hopefully there'll be 2 teams of
Druids present, so 22 others...

As usual, there's camping available on both Friday and Saturday nights.
If you're in need of more comfort, Ross-on-Wye has a plethora of B&Bs
(be warned: the tournament is at the same time as the Ross International
Festival - so you'll need to get in there quick!)

First come, first served - the only way to guarantee your team a spot at
the tournament is to send a cheque of value £162.00 payable to "Fluid
Druids" to the following address:

        Fluid Druids
        8 Avon House
        Rutland Close
        Redhill
        Surrey
        RH1 1EH

with the following details:
Team Name:
Contact Name:
Contact Address:
Phone numbers - Home:
                Work:
                Mobile:
Email address   - Home:
                - Work:

and await confirmation of your entry.

Note: BE CERTAIN that you can field a team!!!! Any teams withdrawing
will receive a maximum refund of 50% of the tournament fee (if we can
find another team to replace you!).

As it's the 20th edition, we're hoping to do a couple of special
somethings...

We look forward to hearing from you!

on behalf of the Fluid Druids
Wayne Retter

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Fluid Druids
contact@fluiddruids.com

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Dear CoEd organisers.. Please could you post details of 4th Co-Ed tour... it 
must be getting close and there has been nothing on britdisc, apologies if i 
have just missed the email.
Chris Berry

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> the tournament is to send a cheque of value £162.00 payable to "Fluid
> Druids" to the following address:

	one hundred and sixty quid per team!

	Jeez, Wayne, those new shirts must have set you back a bit more that
I thought.

	Or have flights to hawaii gone up :-)

		Paul

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Guy (&Britdisc),

Excellent news that we have a club wanting to go to Hawaii as a Masters
team.

If any other teams are interested in going from GB then let me know as we
may get in the position of needing a play-off or some other selection if we
have more potential entrants than slots for GB.

Just to clarify the eligibility rules as far as I know them:

Age
Players need to have been born in 1972 or earlier. I.e. if you 30th birthday
is on or before 31/12/2002 then you can play.

Club
The Worlds is a club tournament. As far as I know there are numerous rules
governing the geo and practice nature of clubs although these tend to be
waived in order to ensure more participation. In practice for Europeans this
year the masters division teams were granted the option to only have a
minimum of 51% club players and to make up the rest of the squad however
they wanted.


Good luck Guy,


Wayne Davey
Masters co-ordinator (waiting for something to co-ordinate!)



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Subject: Looking for info on photo
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Hi

Dave Brown at Ultimate Life magazine is looking for info about one of my 
pictures which is being published in the magazine.

The picture is of a "moment" in the Spain v Ireland game at Worlds in 
Germany last year.

Question is, what are the names of the players in the shot, and what are 
the circumstances?

The picture is on my photo web site at:

http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/photos

or you can get direct to the picture in question at:

http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/photos/pics/wh0716n.jpg


If you have any info, please mail me back a.s.a.p. at 
paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk

Thanks for your help. Maybe you could hassle Dave for a free copy of the 
mag for your efforts? (though I'm not promising anything) :-)

Paul Hurt

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Sorry to use BD but I'm sure that this will get their attention.

Hammerage,

Colin said that he would sort this out. but I have had nothing from him and
no communication to justify the long wait.

The Team owe TeamShark £80 for the rumour tournament that you came to back
in July.

Please send cheque to

TeamShark

47 Radley road
Abingdon
OX14 3PL

Many thanks in advance of receiving your payment

Jon

TeamShark
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Does anyone out there know of any companies (in the London area preferably)
that have an Ultimate team/club? 

The company I work for (Arup) has a team (albeit fairly casual) that play
every Tuesday night in Regents park. The standard of play is definitely on
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Are there any other company teams that would be interested in a friendly?

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Sorry to bother everyone
I'm going to Papua New Guinea for 2 years to teach
I'd like to set up some kind of team. I very much doubt there are any
contacts in PNG (let me know if there are!) but would love to know of
people/places/organisations in Australia (not too far away by plane) that
might be able to help- even just somewhere/someone to order disks from.
Thanks for your time and help and me and my wantoks will be seeing you in
Hawaii (Ha!)
Jack Rushton


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Don't know who they are but I hope the article is about the fashion police, with those shirts it needs to be!
Larry



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>Don't know who they are but I hope the article is about the fashion 
>police, with those shirts it needs to be!
>Larry

Which ones? The lurid "cycling at night" green ones, or the stripey 
Spanish tie-dye ones?

:-)

P

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Subject: Photo info - thanks
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Everyone who responded to the request for info about that picture... 
Thanks very much. Dave Brown is now in full possession of the facts, so 
hopefully European Ultimate will get a very solid name check (apparently 
the pic will be a double page spread inside the front cover!).

Thanks for coming thru.

Paul

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Hi

Wondering if anyone going to Clapham pick up this
Thursday has any spare size 10-11 trainers which they
wouldn't mind lending to a country boy who came to the
city in search of gold streets (which are much softer
on the feet!).

thanks in advance (there's a drink in it...)

kos

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> >Don't know who they are but I hope the article is about the fashion
> >police, with those shirts it needs to be!
> >Larry
>
>Which ones? The lurid "cycling at night" green ones, or the stripey
>Spanish tie-dye ones?

At least we got our  gaia shirts (and our orange "away" shirts) for free. I 
hear that GB players had to pay out rather a hefty wedge for theirs! You'd 
think a more established ultimate playing nation than ours could also have 
sorted themselves out some sponsorship!

Jazz
proud to be cycling at night.

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For further information, please look at the BUF website
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Please submit/send info for any events not listed.
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19/08/01 - bongos classic  (Golf - part of DISCJAM - www.discjam.com)
19/08/01 - Ross-on-Wye (no details on BUF website yet)
25/08/01 - Nottingham Co-ed - BUF Mixed Series Event
25/08/01 - caledonian open  (Golf)
01/09/01 - Mixed Nationals - Titchfield nr Portsmouth
08/09/01 - London Ultimate League Finals
08/09/01 - Glastonbury Tournament
22/09/01 - solstice 5 (Golf)
29/09/01 - Nationals (potential date)
06/10/01 - Nationals (potential date)
06/10/01 - Isle of Mull (TBC) (Golf)
27/10/01 - Warwick Bears 25th Anniversary
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19/01/02 - Newport Indoor Tournament

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hey everyone,

In america there have been 3 high profile deaths of professional american 
football players due to heat stroke/exhaustion.  The temperatures related to 
these deaths weren't even that excessive: 77 F and 86 F.
The newsletter article linked below is worth a read. I know we all know 
this, but it's good to be reminded.

Rebecca


>From: ACSM_Information <ACSM_Information@acsm.org>
 >Subject: ACSM Information: Heat Illness profiled in Fit Society Page Newsl 
etter
 >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:13:09 -0500
 >
 >Heat Illness: tips for preventing heat stroke and related
 >illnesses profiled in Summer issue of Fit Society Page newsletter
 >		FREE on the ACSM Web site
 >
 >This week, Minnesota Vikings linebacker Korey Stringer died
 >following complications from heat stroke suffered during training camp.
 >Stringer apparently showed signs of heat illness, including vomiting, 
rapid breathing and weakness.  When he was rushed to the hospital, 
unconscious, his body temperature was more than 108 degrees.

 >The loss of Stringer, a 27 year-old professional athlete,
 >and recent death of University of Florida freshman football player, Eraste 
Autin, has jarred the public, many for the first time, to the topic of heat 
illness.  What is it?  What causes it?  What can be done to prevent it?
 >
 >See the Summer issue of the Fit Society Page newsletter for
 >important information about this topic.  Download your FREE copy now at
 >http://www.acsm.org/newsletters.htm
 >
 >This special issue addresses "Exercise Safety." In addition
 >to profiling heat illness and exercise this issue includes in-depth 
articles and expert commentary on sports injury prevention, starting an 
exercise program, and summer exercise tips for seniors.  Plus, don't miss a 
special Athlete's Kitchen exploring ways to deal with muscle cramps, and our 
ever-popular Q&A.
 >
 >Don't forget to e-mail the link to this valuable information
 >to your colleagues, clients, patients, friends and family!
 >
 >http://www.acsm.org/newsletters.htm
 >
 >Look for the Fall edition, "Exercise Behavior" in October.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >



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Hi Britdisc,
	a reminder that we have a weekend of ultimate
lined up for you in Cambridge:

Sat Aug 11th - start time 10am - "Bandana 2001" Hat tournament.

	(Please register at the website
	http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/james01/
	or by sending me an email)

Sun Aug 12th - start time 11am - Ultimate on Jesus Green.

	
Please register in advance for the hat tournament. There 
is a discount for registering in advance, cos it helps 
us sort out the right number of fields.

The venue for the hat tournament will be fixed shortly. We're
hoping to get the immaculate velvet fields beside Grantchester Road.

Yours
	David

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Hello BD

Sorry if it doesn't concern you but does anyone know if there is
anything going on about lefty team for Ross? Alternatively could someone
pass on Aura's email as I've lost it.

Cheers

Stroke
S&G

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18 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - ROSS ON WYE ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT

Location: Ross Sports Centre (!), Ross on Wye, Herefordshire - [Outdoor Ultimate, Other Event]



The Fluid Druids are happy to present the 20th Anniversay of the Ross on Wye Ultimate Tournament and Beer Race.
Same place as always...
cost £162.00 payable to FLUID DRUIDS


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Wayne Retter

8 Avon House, Rutland Close, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 1EH

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

Home Phone: 01737-218489

Work Phone: 01737-273655

Mobile: 07970-904320

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18 AUGUST 2001 (1 DAYS) - LEICESTER 'SPIRIT OF SPORT' TOURNAMENT 

Location: Leicester - [Outdoor Ultimate]


This is a one-day mini 5-a-side tournament for teams in the Leicester area. All proceeds will go to the Lord Mayor of Leicester's 'Spirit of Sport' appeal to provide opportunities in sport and leisure for people with learning disabilites. If your interested, there may be a space or two left. Fee is likely to be around £3 per player.


Ben Ravilious

Main Email: red@ultimateweb.co.uk

Home Phone: 0116 2559638

Mobile: 07703 460866

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19 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC

Location: london - [Disc Golf]


leg 6  of the bdga 2001 tour.
event and venue to be confirmed



andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com 

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25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM MIXED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]



NOTE: New Date




www.flyghtclub.com/tour


Sam Rey

Main Email: samanir@breathe.com

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25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN

Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf]


leg 8 bdga tour 2001
date and venue tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

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01 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - MIXED NATIONALS

Location: Titchfield, Near Portsmouth - [Outdoor Ultimate]







Si Weeks

23 Shepards Close, Fareham, Hants, , PO14 3AJ

Main Email: mtjat@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

Mobile: 07815 126 573

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08 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY 2001

Location: GLASTONBURY  - [Outdoor Ultimate]


COST - £90
SEND CHEQUES TO         42 RICHMOND MOUNT
                        HEADINGLEY
                        LEEDS
                        LS6 1DF

MAKE CHEQUES PAYABLE TO -  LEEDS ULTIMATE
                         
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LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

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08 SEPTEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON ULTIMATE LEAGUE FINALS

Location: Clapham Common, London - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Final of the London Ultimate League in the afternoon, plus mini hat tournament in the morning.


http://www.londonultimate.org


Paul Hurt

Main Email: paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk

Home Phone: 020 8767 8243

Mobile: 07740 406983

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22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

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06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

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27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS 25TH ANNIVERSARY

Location: University of Warwick - [Other Event]


Celebration event featuring some Ultimate and Disc Golf, with a dinner-dance on the Saturday night!

INVITATION ONLY [SORRY].

http://www.warwick.ac.uk/staff/D.P.Neilson/bears25/


Sam Neilson

20 Alexandra Court, Priory Road, Kenilworth, , CV8 1SB

Main Email: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk

Alternative Email: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01926 864 276

Work Phone: 024 7652 3880

Mobile: 07947 134 987

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27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Concorde Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Should be 16 beginners teams, 10 experienced teams.
3 pitches on Saturday, 2 on Sunday. 
£90 a team.
More details nearer the time.


http://www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate


Dave Sealy

243 Swanwick Lane, Swanwick, Southampton, , SO31 7GT

Main Email: ultimate@shef.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mea98djs@shef.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01489 575809

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19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

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hello again all,

few more queries, i have looked on all student teams websites and the BD 
archive and still have some gaps (although thanks to the fact that the mythago 
site hasn't been updated since 1996 i got one useful result!).

Fistly thanks to Linsay, Joe, Ed, Phil, Adam, Jesper, Jon, Bryce, Alex, Andy, 
Rich and James and big thanks to Jeff, Harry and Roger for the ancient 
history!!! (and also the uriel website)

I still don't know who came 2nd and 3rd at 2000 indoor finals in Cardiff (I 
know i helped organise it but my memories not that good) and loads from the 
1995-6 season backwards. I have results from 1989-90 which is great but from 
the different sources i am getting different results for the same years or the 
same results for different years!

If there are any more of you out there who can help with the stuff pre 1996 
then i would appreciate it. Finally there were numerous references from 
different people that wayne retter would probably have helped out with his vast 
knowledge of previous tournaments however i have not yet heard from him so 
Wayne, drop me a mail with all the results for the last 20 years, cheers mate!!!

Thanks for the help again, the site at studentultimate.com will be up in 
september and this info will be under tournaments/history if you're interested.

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apologies to anybody this isn't relevant to (i.e. blokes!)...

Does anybody know when women's nationals may be taking place?  Is it likely 
that it will be taking place the same weekend as open nationals?
If not, does anybody have an email address for Sally - women's coordinator?  
so many questions!

cheers,

Emma
Janet Hawes


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> Does anybody know when women's nationals may be taking place?  Is it
likely
> that it will be taking place the same weekend as open nationals?
> If not, does anybody have an email address for Sally - women's
coordinator?
> so many questions!


I can say for certain it is NOT happenning at the Open nationals site on
that weekend.  There aren't enough pitches.  (The Open Nationals site is a
last minute booking due to the other site falling through- so beggars can't
be choosers.)

Sorry.

Info on Open Nationals hopefully at the end of this week.

nancy


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Due to Mwnci See not entering this tournie: 

Is there a team that requires a fairly experienced
player (played most of the outdoor touranments this
Summer) on the 18th and 19th of August, at Ross?


Richard Everett


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Dear All,

We are currently trying to sort out womens nationals, as Nancy has said it will be a seperate weekend from open nationals. We have a venue in mind and will let you all know as soon as things have been confirmed.

so watch this space!

Hannah (Bliss)

Lighting Design Engineer
LiDAC
Tel :  020 8781 8315
Fax : 020 8781 8018





"Nancy Stebbing" <nancy.stebbing@tesco.net>@warwick.ac.uk on 08/07/2001 07:31:37 PM

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> Does anybody know when women's nationals may be taking place?  Is it
likely
> that it will be taking place the same weekend as open nationals?
> If not, does anybody have an email address for Sally - women's
coordinator?
> so many questions!


I can say for certain it is NOT happenning at the Open nationals site on
that weekend.  There aren't enough pitches.  (The Open Nationals site is a
last minute booking due to the other site falling through- so beggars can't
be choosers.)

Sorry.

Info on Open Nationals hopefully at the end of this week.

nancy






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The venue for 

        Bandana 2001

is now fixed: Coldham's Common, Cambridge.
[The same place where we held
Nationals and the last two Coed tournaments in Cambridge.]

Directions:  http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/james01/Direction.html

Please register for this hat tournament using this webpage

	http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/james01/Enter.html

The cost is just 10 pounds if you register by Thursday 9th (tomorrow).

If you are skint, you can pay the skint person's discount rate of 5 pounds.

Start time: 10am, Saturday Aug 11th.

On Sunday 12th, there will be ultimate on Jesus Green from 11am.

Any questions?      See the web site

	http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/james01/

or contact David.

Thanks

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Entries to Ross haven't quite lived up to the interest levels that were
apparent a few weeks back... what's going on ?

I hear (Batchelor-based) rumours that Bristol and Chevvy are planning on
coming? Drop me a line to confirm, please!

Wondering about the 162.00 entry fee ?
It's based on budgeting for 12 persons per team (so that's 13.50 each)

Here's some of the reasons the tournament costs as much as it does:
- Game disc per team
- Trophies for every finishing position
- A breakfast pack for every team, rather than the
- Champagne celebration of the 20th Ross-on-Wye tournament
- Decent beer for the beer race
- Escalating costs of securing the venue and additional facilities
- Ross is traditionally the most expensive tournament of the year :)
- and yes, we're planning to make a little money toward funding our new
kit and future tournament entry fees.

Looking forward to hearing from more of you, soon!

Wayne Retter
Fluid Druids


Tue, 31 Jul 2001, by Wayne Retter <mailto:contact@fluiddruids.com>;
 Subject: [fluiddruids] Ross on Wye 2001 - 18+19 August
>
>The Fluid Druids are happy to present, even if it is somewhat last
>minute, the 20th edition of their infamous Ross on Wye Ultimate
>Tournament.
>
>when:   18 + 19 August 2001
>where:  'the usual place' @ Ross on Wye
>
>SEVENTEEN DAYS AND COUNTING...
>
>There is room for 24 teams total, but hopefully there'll be 2 teams of
>Druids present, so 22 others...
>
>As usual, there's camping available on both Friday and Saturday nights.
>If you're in need of more comfort, Ross-on-Wye has a plethora of B&Bs
>(be warned: the tournament is at the same time as the Ross International
>Festival - so you'll need to get in there quick!)
>
>First come, first served - the only way to guarantee your team a spot at
>the tournament is to send a cheque of value £162.00 payable to "Fluid
>Druids" to the following address:
>
>        Fluid Druids
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>with the following details:
>Team Name:
>Contact Name:
>Contact Address:
>Phone numbers - Home:
>                Work:
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>Email address   - Home:
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>and await confirmation of your entry.
>
>Note: BE CERTAIN that you can field a team!!!! Any teams withdrawing
>will receive a maximum refund of 50% of the tournament fee (if we can
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>
>As it's the 20th edition, we're hoping to do a couple of special
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>We look forward to hearing from you!
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Could teams that have entered for Ross on Wye 2001 please send me
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Hi
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Just moved to Watford from Edinburgh, looking to hook up with some
practices in North London.  Can anyone let me know about where and when
to find these.  Learned my skills from one of the best teams around =96
plug for Sneeekys there =96 standard =96 depends who you ask =96 =
probably most
would say =96 unfit, slow, slightly determined mid-long. Been playing =
for
3 years this summer and am getting withdrawl symptoms having not thrown
a disc in 4 months.  Having done such a great selling job, any offers to
let me come and join your practice would be gratefully received.
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font-family:Arial'>Just moved to </span></font><st1:place><font size=3D2
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lace><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> from =
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:place></st1:City><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, looking to
hook up with some practices in </span></font><st1:place><font size=3D2
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London</span></font></st1:place><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Can anyone let me know about where =
and when
to find these.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Learned my =
skills from
one of the best teams around &#8211; plug for Sneeekys there &#8211; =
standard &#8211;
depends who you ask &#8211; probably most would say &#8211; unfit, slow,
slightly determined mid-long. Been playing for 3 years this summer and =
am
getting withdrawl symptoms having not thrown a disc in 4 months.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>Having done such a great selling =
job, any
offers to let me come and join your practice would be gratefully =
received.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Well nearly there,
are you excited???

Here is a quik list of teams coming to Notts.  please not some of the info herein may be false inaccurate or misleading.... its not my fault.

yeah sorry anyway, so far & in no particular order...

BOOKED AND PAID
1.  Chevron Action Flash
2.  Red
3.  Blue Arsed Flies
4.  BAF Prague
5.  Sublime
6.  Venom
7.  OUF - France
8.  Mohawks
9.  Li'l Sheff
10. FlyghtClub
11. Sneeekys
13. Cyrille

CHEQUES IN THE POST, BOSS, HONEST
14. KUPA
15. Strange Blue
16. Jammy Bodgers
17. Aurora Borealis 
18. MooTones 
19. International JetSet - Belgium
20. Randy
21. Crunch - Amsterdam

3 more teams required!!! Wage? Boogie Knights? Angels?

OPEN DIVISION, 
several teams have enquired about the Open Division and pickups too.  Anyone intersted in playing in this division should contact 
Sam (shark@flyghtclub.com)
ASAP, again, 3 more teams required!



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Found this on Eurodisc.

VITO

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

From: Fatima Yousif 
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:15:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ultimate in the press

Hello Everyone, 
a great article which I feel sums up the joy of
ultimate.
Cheers
F.

WEEKEND JOURNAL
---
Culture & Thought -- Personal Journey:
What Is `an Evil Cult' Anyway?
---
Does Faith in Flying Saucers Count?
----
By Simon Montlake  The Asian Wall Street Journal via
Dow Jones
BALI, Indonesia -- Last weekend I joined a cult. It
wasn't too difficult. I didn't need to pledge my
everlasting soul to the Almighty Master of Ceremonies
or sacrifice that chicken I've been saving for a late
summer barbeque. It isn't that kind of cult, you see.
Nobody suggested a spot of self-immolation or holing
up in a shack on the edge of town until our instant
ramen runs out. We don't even have any sacred texts,
unless you count printouts of Internet diatribes. I
guess it isn't your average cult. But who wants to
join a run-of-the-mill mindbender?
We certainly have our fair share of esoteric concepts
that newcomers may find baffling. It starts with the
disc, our savior, tormentor and friend. To an Ultimate
Frisbee cultist, the disc is always the disc, never
the frisbee, despite the glorious name of our
wonderful cult (see, they got to me, didn't they?).
You probably think you know all about the frisbee,
that round plastic toy that you once gleefully tossed
to your friends on the beach or in the park, back in
the days Before Golf. An innocent game, free of the
stress and tension of the capitalist rat-race. Hell,
countless youth even play stoned -- though no one
wants to condone that.
But that was then, and this is Ultimate Frisbee. What
began in New Jersey in the freewheeling 1960s as an
alternative to regimented American team sports
(football, baseball, "Larry King Live") has evolved
into a global head-spinner crossing the free and
not-so free world (sorry, Singapore). As with any
truly successful cult -- think Falun Gong and deep
breathing -- the basic rules are simple: Two teams of
seven take turns to pass the disc down a 70-yard field
into an end zone and score a point. If you drop the
disc or the other team intercepts, play switches
direction. Pushing and punching are forbidden; yelling
"hammer," "force field" or, most alarmingly from a
public-health standpoint, "dump" is fine.
In Bali, the site of my induction, cult members from
Taipei, Bangkok, Hong Kong, Beijing, Jakarta and, yes,
Singapore lost no time in staking out their claim to
the pan-Asian silver disc. I watched in awe as clumps
of tanned expatriate Americans scowled and stretched
in the hazy morning sun, flanked by energetic Asians
and the occasional stray goat. Discs flew from all
directions, bobbing and weaving like flying saucers in
a UFO home-movie. My cult leaders from Jakarta's
Discindo team, dubbed the sexiest in Southeast Asia,
tell me that Ultimate is sinking local roots across
the region. It's not just over-achiever Americans who
can't put down the disc these days.
Some of you may decry the march of global
"cultilization" in Asia, another evil expat trick
pulled out of a baseball cap, but if it means less
farmland being converted to golf courses, then play
on, you crazy cultists. And let's not mince words, we
are crazy, though I'm not sure every contest can match
the giddy highs of this year's Bali Ultimate Frisbee
tournament. Our hosts provide not only a local gamelan
orchestra to accompany the final game (Singapore beats
Taipei -- ouch!) but also a gaggle of onsite masseurs
who tend to each aching muscle after every hard-fought
game.
And then there are the cheerleaders: a merry band of
Jakarta's finest street transvestites who prance
across the field in pink chiffon tutus, knee-high
socks and silver tops. Their coach, who in her spare
time works for a Wall Street bank, leads exuberant
chants studded with Ultimate words designed to confuse
any non-cultists. But after a morning of throwing
hammers and hucks, of dramatic end-zone dives, it all
starts to make sense. Not all the assembled cultists
are in on the joke. One jock squints across the field
at the arriving cheerleaders and tells his teammates:
"Those girls are kinda hot, huh?"
While pom-pom toting cheerleaders and exclusive
terminology are familiar to many American sports, our
noble cult is set apart by its referees -- we don't
have any. Ultimate relies on an honors system whereby
players "fess up" to their fouls in order to keep the
laidback spirit of the game alive, rather than go for
a win at all costs. It doesn't always work. As the
tournament progresses, more fouls are contested, more
expletives muttered under the breath. But when the
game ends, everyone shakes hands and smiles goofily at
the blissful joy that is Ultimate.
Later that evening, as the cultists gather at the
hotel pool to sup Bali's finest sports cocktails,
awards are handed out for the best team spirit, best
point scored, most cheerleaders groped, etc. That's
one of the secrets of the cult: lots of awards. (It
works for the TV industry, too.) I would tell you the
other secrets, but then I'd have to kill you, and we
don't want our cult getting a bad name. After all, I'm
sure even the Moonies started off with the best of
intentions. But now look at them.
In Bali, the best is saved until last. After hours of
merriment, we stumble into a decibel-driven disco to
watch Nanang, Discindo's in-house designer, stage a
fashion show featuring cultists in Technicolor outfits
that would make a cheerleader blush. Tourists gape in
bewilderment at the beefy Americans stalking the
catwalk in gold-lame G-strings and maroon smoking
jackets. "Are they, like, professionals?" asked one
bemused girl. As the show ends, the DJ cranks up the
music and we start twitching to jackhammer techno that
doesn't stop until the sun creeps up and taps us on
the head.
After 24 hours on the hop, I'm giddy with the joy of
Ultimate, ready to shout its name to the world and
tell all the party-poopers and cult-busters to get off
my case! Sweat pours off my forehead as I exchange
secret handshakes with fellow cult initiates. Don't
worry, I murmur, we shall overcome. I vow to attend
the next cult gathering in Shanghai and agree to work
on my forehand. Finally, after the final prize for
best partygoer is awarded, I head home, convinced that
I have seen the future and it looks a lot like a
plastic disc.
---
Mr. Montlake is a freelance journalist based in
Jakarta.   WJAviaNewsEDGE :PAGE: W9 :SUBJECT: CHIN HKG
INDO SING SPRT USA Copyright (c) 2001 Dow Jones and
Company, Inc. Received by NewsEDGE/LAN: 10-08-01 08:54

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Subject: womens nationals - 23-24 September
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Womens nationals  - and Hat tournament



Womens Nationals will be held in Leeds on the weekend of the 23-24th September.

We need to know ASAP how many teams are interested in coming. Please mail me back if you are interested. We were also thinking of having a hat tournament running along side. I will mail something more about this next week, but for now these are the dates
so get organising!!!

Hannah Easter (Bliss)
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LiDAC
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Fax : 020 8781 8018





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Hello everyone,

Currently the top twelve teams have a slot, but I need to receive cheques by 
Friday 17th August. Cheques should be made payable to ‘More Than Just A 
Tournament’ and sent to myself at the address below. The twelve teams in 
question are:

Chevron
KUPA
Randy           PAID
BAF Prague      PAID
Strange Blue    PAID
Cyrille
BAF Others      PAID
Little Shef
Wage
Sneeekys
Red
Angels

The remaining four slots will be allocated after the Nottingam Co-ed Tour. 
However, unless a superstar team turns up at Nottingham and places seventh 
or higher then Aurora Borealis, Jedi Children, Sublime and Mowhawks will 
also qualify for Co-ed Nationals. Therefore I would ask these teams also to 
send a cheque. In the unlikely event of any team failing to qualify, cheques 
will be fully refunded.

With regards to accommodation may I remind you that the camping facilities 
are extremely basic. It is caravan site, and therefore designed for people 
with their own facilities. I am paying for a portaloo to be delivered to the 
site, but apart from that there are no other ammenities. A nominal fee will 
apply to camping.

A number of people have taken up the Posthouse option and as a result they 
have made more double rooms available. They will only hold rooms at the 
discounted rate until the 15th of August, so if you want to take advantage 
of this offer then you need to book soon. Full details on this option may be 
found at the end of this email.

Please note that I am not on Britdisc, so all relevant emails should be 
copied to this address. My internet access is limited, so a better method of 
contacting me is by phone or SMS.

See you all in Titchfield,

Si Weeks

address: 23 shepards close, fareham,  po14 3aj
email: mtjat@hotmail.com
mobile: 07815 126 573
----------------------------------------------
Forte Posthouse Accommodation Option

The best option is the Forte Posthouse, which is just a ten minute walk from 
the pitches and on the same site as the party venue. I have managed to 
negotiate an excellent deal, so if you are coming to Co-ed Nationals 
consider a bit of luxury for the night.

Double or twin ensuite rooms are £60 based on two people sharing and include 
a full English breakfast. The rates also include use of the gym (perhaps not 
that appealing), swimming pool, sauna and best of all a Jacuzzi. The 
standard bedrooms have digital TV, minibar and coffee making facilities. The 
deluxe rooms, which are available for the same price, also have a power 
shower and Sky television. The deluxe rooms will be allocated on a 
first-come, first-served basis.

In order to book you need to phone Samantha Johnstone on 0870 400 9028 and 
quote reference 3082. All rates can be paid on departure. The booking 
deadline is the 15th of August.



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Glastonbury is now full. The following teams have entered.  Sorry to any
teams that were wanting to enter.

Disco Janitors
Slim Fast
Supa Noodle
Mud Culture
Phat'eds
Superfly
Sneeekys
Mwncisee
Discult
Chuft
Red
Oddjob
Strange Blue
NightFever
Team Shark

and last but not lease for one reunion tourney only........

STAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Direction will be posted in the coming weeks and if you didn't make it I
hear Wayne's looking for teams!!

Sharma



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Hello Britdisc,

I thought I'd let you know a bit more about the inaugural DISC JAM taking 
place at Elthorne Park, near Ealing on Sunday 19th August.

The Bongos have hired Elthorne Park for the day and we would like to invite 
anyone who enjoys throwing a disc to come along and support the event.

This is an unusual opportunity to participate in 5 disc sports in one day.

The event aims to be a lot of fun and relaxed with an  emphasis on taking 
part rather than a serious competition.

Another of our objectives is to highlight flying disc sports within the 
Borough of Ealing and London. This is the 5th disc event at Elthorne Park 
in the last 3 years. The Bongos are aiming to persuade the Council to build 
a permanent disc golf course and also to consider flying disc sports in 
their future planning for sport and education in the Borough. Already this 
summer, 300 kids in Ealing have been learning to play disc golf, Ultimate 
and Goaltimate as part of a summer sports scheme initiated by the Bongos 
and Ealing's Sports Development team.

On the day we will be running a disc golf tournament - the 3rd Bongos 
Pro-Am Classic.
1-2 Ultimate pitches will be marked out and we are hoping to run a relaxed 
mini tournament for 4-5 teams, the 'Robbie Williams Super Cup'
A Goaltimate pitch will be set up and we are also hoping to run a mini 
tournament, the 'Ozzie Osborne Allcomers Challenge Vase'
3 Double Disc Court pitches will be marked out and again we are hoping to 
run a mini tournament, the 'Bob Marley Bowl'.
There will be a distance competition (last year a Swedish golfer tonked a 
disc just over 140m).
We are also inviting any freestylers to come along and demonstrate their 
skills and pass on any tips.

So that's the plan, anyone interested?

We are looking particularly for Ultimate and Goaltimate teams to register 
for the event. Things were going very smoothly until the Ross on Wye 
tournament was rekindled. Freak Show, Strawberry Jam, Playthings, Blue on 
Blue have all pledged their support, but due to Ross on Wye they have lost 
players.
Consequently we are looking for more teams and players.

So if you're not playing at Ross on Wye and you fancy a throw, please bare 
us in mind.

There is more information about DISC JAM on the website www.discjam.com
You can also register through the site. - shortcut to registration: 
www.discjam.com/takingpart.htm

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OPEN NATIONALS-  OCTOBER 6-7   DAVENTRY SPORTS GROUNDS, DAVENTRY

The Open Nationals are confirmed at Daventry for the above dates.  =
Daventry is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, and about 16 miles north =
of Banbury (site of Tour 2).  More directions, maps, and web resources =
regarding location will follow.  Please be advised- you will need some =
sort of private transport.  As this is a last minute arrangement, the =
site is NOT near a train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), =
and accomodation is off-site.  Please accept my apologies- this is the =
best we (the BUF) can do for now.

Costs are still be determined.  I am in negotiation with various sources =
for various stuff.  The PROJECTED costs is =A3135 per team, which =
INCLUDES the BUF tournament tax.  I am trying to both reduce the costs =
to all teams and to offer a student team discount.  As soon as I get =
final figures, I will post the entry fees.

The tournament is open to the top 32 teams initially.  (Chris Hughes is =
handling the format, so please send any inquiries about it to him.)  =
However, in the event that some of those teams do not attend, the =
remaining spots will be passed down the rankings until the tournament is =
filled.  It is entirely possible (but maybe not likely) that teams who =
have not played in the Tour at all could be offered a spot.  If you want =
to come- send a cheque by the deadline and see what happens.  =
(Obviously, cheques will be returned if space is not offered).  DO NOT =
SEND CHEQUES NOW AS COSTS ARE STILL BEING FINALIZED.

At this time, it is expected that the BUF AGM will be held on Saturday =
night.  Therefore, there is no official party planned.  However, the bar =
at the hotel accomodation will be open to all players.  See below for =
details.

ACCOMMODATION

Camping is available for no cost at a local farm,  Meadows Farm.  The =
farm is 2 miles from the pitches, but it is not a journey that should be =
attempted on foot.  The camping will be BASIC.  This means port-a-loos, =
two sinks in the garage (that DO have hot water) and that's it.  Camping =
is available both Friday and Saturday nights.  If it's not raining, it's =
a really pleasant site.  You ARE permitted to bring cooking supplies/ =
barbecues, whatever.  Meadows Farm is part of a local B&B association.  =
You can check out the location and other info at =
www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk
=20
As well as Meadows Farm, there are other farm B&Bs nearby see the above =
site for more info.  (As well as campers, Meadows Farm will take B&B =
bookings.)  FYI, Drayton Lodge (one of the B&Bs on the web site) is =
almost directly across the street from the pitches.

Staverton Park Conference centre is offering a special room rate for the =
tournament.  It is located one mile from the pitches.  Rooms are =
available for Friday and Saturday nights.  Rooms are =A350- single or =
double occupancy.  This rate includes full English breakfast, ensuite =
rooms, fully equiped rooms (tea&coffee, hairdryer, ironing board, radio, =
TV, etc.) use of the restaurant for dinner (at an additional cost) and =
use of the leisure club (which has a swimming pool and sauna).  The =
centre also has a bar.  And for those of you with more money than sense, =
Staverton has a golf course; tee times are available.  Check out the =
facilities at www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk =20
Rooms are on a first-come first serve basis.  Call 01327 302 000 to =
book, and ask for the frisbee rate.  You'll need a credit card for a =
deposit.

OTHER INFO

Confirmation of entry fees will follow.

There will be on-site food both Satruday and Sunday.  I am negotiating =
to keep costs down.

Entry deadline will be in early September.  Why?  Because I'm not =
sorting through cheques with a new baby in the house.  (The newest =
Stebbing is due to arrive Sept.20- if I don't explode first.)

Any questions?  Contact me on this email address or on 01280 701 715.


Nancy Stebbing



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the above dates.&nbsp; Daventry is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, =
and about=20
16 miles north of Banbury (site of Tour 2).&nbsp; More directions, maps, =
and web=20
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will need=20
some sort of private transport.&nbsp; As this is a last minute =
arrangement, the=20
site is NOT near a train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), =
and=20
accomodation is off-site.&nbsp; Please accept my apologies- this is the =
best we=20
(the BUF) can do for now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Costs are still be determined.&nbsp; I =
am in=20
negotiation with various sources for various stuff.&nbsp; The PROJECTED =
costs is=20
=A3135 per team, which INCLUDES the BUF tournament tax.&nbsp; I am =
trying to both=20
reduce the costs to all teams and to offer a student team =
discount.&nbsp; As=20
soon as I get final figures, I will post the entry fees.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The tournament is open to the top 32 =
teams=20
initially.&nbsp; (Chris Hughes is handling the format, so please send =
any=20
inquiries about it to him.)&nbsp; However, in the event that some of =
those teams=20
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until the=20
tournament is filled.&nbsp; It is entirely possible (but maybe not =
likely) that=20
teams who have not played in the Tour at all could be offered a =
spot.&nbsp; If=20
you want to come- send a cheque by the deadline and see what =
happens.&nbsp;=20
(Obviously, cheques will be returned if space is not offered).&nbsp; DO =
NOT SEND=20
CHEQUES NOW AS COSTS ARE STILL BEING FINALIZED.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this time, it is expected that the =
BUF AGM will=20
be held on Saturday night.&nbsp; Therefore, there is no official party=20
planned.&nbsp; However, the bar at the hotel accomodation will be open =
to all=20
players.&nbsp; See below for details.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Camping is available for no cost at a =
local=20
farm,&nbsp; Meadows Farm.&nbsp; The farm is 2 miles from the pitches, =
but it is=20
not a journey that should be attempted on foot.&nbsp; The camping will =
be=20
BASIC.&nbsp; This means port-a-loos, two sinks in the garage (that DO =
have hot=20
water) and that's it.&nbsp; Camping is available both Friday and =
Saturday=20
nights.&nbsp; If it's not raining, it's a really pleasant site.&nbsp; =
You ARE=20
permitted to bring cooking supplies/ barbecues, =
whatever.&nbsp;&nbsp;Meadows=20
Farm is part of a local B&amp;B association.&nbsp; You can check out the =

location and other info at <FONT color=3D#000080><A=20
href=3D"http://www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk">www.northantsfarmholidays=
.co.uk</A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As well as Meadows Farm, there are =
other farm=20
B&amp;Bs nearby see the above site for more info.&nbsp; (As well as =
campers,=20
Meadows Farm will take B&amp;B bookings.)&nbsp; FYI, Drayton Lodge (one =
of the=20
B&amp;Bs on the web site) is almost directly across the street from the=20
pitches.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Staverton Park Conference centre is =
offering a=20
special room rate for the tournament.&nbsp; It is located one mile from =
the=20
pitches.&nbsp; Rooms are available for Friday and Saturday nights.&nbsp; =
Rooms=20
are =A350- single or double occupancy.&nbsp; This rate includes full =
English=20
breakfast, ensuite rooms, fully equiped rooms (tea&amp;coffee, =
hairdryer,=20
ironing board, radio, TV, etc.) use of the restaurant for dinner (at an=20
additional cost) and use of the leisure club (which has a swimming pool =
and=20
sauna).&nbsp; The centre also has a bar.&nbsp; And for those of you with =
more=20
money than sense, Staverton has a golf course; tee times are =
available.&nbsp;=20
Check out the facilities at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk">www.poolatstavertonpark.co.=
uk</A>&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rooms are on a first-come first serve =
basis.&nbsp;=20
Call 01327 302 000 to book, and ask for the frisbee rate.&nbsp; You'll =
need a=20
credit card for a deposit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OTHER INFO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Confirmation of entry fees will=20
follow.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There will be on-site food both =
Satruday and=20
Sunday.&nbsp; I am negotiating to keep costs down.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Entry deadline will be in early =
September.&nbsp;=20
Why?&nbsp; Because I'm not sorting through cheques with a new baby in =
the=20
house.&nbsp; (The newest Stebbing is due to arrive Sept.20- if I don't =
explode=20
first.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any questions?&nbsp; Contact me on this =
email=20
address or on 01280 701 715.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nancy Stebbing</FONT></DIV>
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Sorry folks, but we don't have enough teams to make the event viable.
(we have about 8, we'd need 16+ to scrape by on a minimum!)

Ross on Wye 2001 won't be happening.


Teams that have sent cheques* will either have them returned, or if I've
already banked them, will get new ones.

We're already looking into Ross 2002, and hoping we can be a bit better
organised...

Apologetic regards
Wayne Retter

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Hi Britdisc,

The results from this year's Worlds in Minnesota have been posted on 
www.obmegazine.com

Ruth Steele was the only UK player, she finished a very respectable 11th 
and matched the Champ's (Juliana Korver) round score on her 7th round.

Quite a few Europeans (mainly Swedes and Fins) competed in the Mens and 
Womens Divisions.

Sweden's Jesper Lundmark was again the pick of the Euro men, but could only 
finish =16th. (last year 3rd)
Birgitta Lagerholm, also from Sweden finished in a superb 4th in the womens

Richard

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"Womens Nationals"

More information!

Team Fee will be £105.00 this needs to be sent to :-
Leeds Ultimate
(mad mark womens nationals)

There will be food avaliable on site.

42 Richmond Mount,
Headingley,
Leeds,
LS6 1DF.

Please can you pass this message on to any women that are playing that you know... the aim is to get as much interest in Womens as we can.

If anyone has not got e-mail feel free to pass on my mobile number which is 07711 521282.

I will except bookings over the phone!

cheers Hannah (Bliss)



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Hi Britdisc

Aurora Borealis are in need of women players for Copa
Cobana in Nottingham on the weekend of 25/26th August.
If anyone is interested in playing for a relaxed,
spirited side with a chance to play at the co-ed
nationals, please get in contact asap.

This years co-ed rules allow players to roster for
different teams during the year, so having played for
another co-ed team earlier this year does not rule you
out (please tell me if this is wrong!).

Hope to hear from you soon!

kos
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BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY 


See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates.

Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/

____________________________________________________________


18 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - ROSS ON WYE (CANCELLED)

Location: Ross Sports Centre (!), Ross on Wye, Herefordshire - [Outdoor Ultimate, Other Event]



The Fluid Druids are happy to present the 20th Anniversay of the Ross on Wye Ultimate Tournament and Beer Race.
Same place as always...
cost £162.00 payable to FLUID DRUIDS



http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Wayne Retter

8 Avon House, Rutland Close, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 1EH

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

Home Phone: 01737-218489

Work Phone: 01737-273655

Mobile: 07970-904320

____________________________________________________________


18 AUGUST 2001 (1 DAYS) - LEICESTER 'SPIRIT OF SPORT' TOURNAMENT 

Location: Leicester - [Outdoor Ultimate]


This is a one-day mini 5-a-side tournament for teams in the Leicester area. All proceeds will go to the Lord Mayor of Leicester's 'Spirit of Sport' appeal to provide opportunities in sport and leisure for people with learning disabilites. Prizes to be presented by the Lord Mayor. If you're interested, there may be a space or two left. Fee is likely to be around £3 per player.


Ben Ravilious

Main Email: red@ultimateweb.co.uk

Home Phone: 0116 2559638

Mobile: 07703 460866

____________________________________________________________


19 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC

Location: london - [Disc Golf]


leg 6  of the bdga 2001 tour.
event and venue to be confirmed



andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com 

____________________________________________________________


25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN

Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf]


leg 8 bdga tour 2001
date and venue tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM MIXED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]



NOTE: New Date




www.flyghtclub.com/tour


Sam Rey

Main Email: samanir@breathe.com

____________________________________________________________


01 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - MIXED NATIONALS

Location: Titchfield, Near Portsmouth - [Outdoor Ultimate]







Si Weeks

23 Shepards Close, Fareham, Hants, , PO14 3AJ

Main Email: mtjat@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

Mobile: 07815 126 573

____________________________________________________________


08 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY 2001

Location: GLASTONBURY  - [Outdoor Ultimate]


COST - £90
SEND CHEQUES TO         42 RICHMOND MOUNT
                        HEADINGLEY
                        LEEDS
                        LS6 1DF

MAKE CHEQUES PAYABLE TO -  LEEDS ULTIMATE
                         
CAMPING/FOOD/DRINK AVAILABLE ALL WEEKEND



LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

____________________________________________________________


08 SEPTEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON ULTIMATE LEAGUE FINALS

Location: Clapham Common, London - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Final of the London Ultimate League in the afternoon, plus mini hat tournament in the morning.


http://www.londonultimate.org


Paul Hurt

Main Email: paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk

Home Phone: 020 8767 8243

Mobile: 07740 406983

____________________________________________________________


15 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - IT'S MY PARTY, AND I'LL PLAY IF I WANT TO

Location: Harpenden, Hertfordshire - [Outdoor Ultimate]


8 team friendly tournament with ambitious hopes for Saturday night.

All still TBC.


Rich Hims

39 Wick Avenue, Wheathampstead, St Albans, Herts, AL4 8QD

Main Email: rich@leedsjedi.co.uk

Alternative Email: rich8@mail.com

Home Phone: 01582 833247

Work Phone: 01727 813487

Mobile: 07968 248529

Fax: 01582 833247

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMEN'S OUTDOOR NATIONALS

Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Hannah Easter / Arun Sharma

Main Email: hannah.easter@philips.com

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS

Location: Daventry - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Nancy Stebbing

Main Email: nancy.stebbing@tesco.net

Home Phone: 01280 701715

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS 25TH ANNIVERSARY

Location: University of Warwick - [Other Event]


Celebration event featuring some Ultimate and Disc Golf, with a dinner-dance on the Saturday night!

INVITATION ONLY [SORRY].

http://www.warwick.ac.uk/staff/D.P.Neilson/bears25/


Sam Neilson

20 Alexandra Court, Priory Road, Kenilworth, , CV8 1SB

Main Email: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk

Alternative Email: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01926 864 276

Work Phone: 024 7652 3880

Mobile: 07947 134 987

____________________________________________________________


27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Concorde Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Should be 16 beginners teams, 10 experienced teams.
3 pitches on Saturday, 2 on Sunday. 
£90 a team.
More details nearer the time.


http://www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate


Dave Sealy

243 Swanwick Lane, Swanwick, Southampton, , SO31 7GT

Main Email: ultimate@shef.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mea98djs@shef.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01489 575809

____________________________________________________________


19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

____________________________________________________________




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Is anyone driving to Nottingham from Brighton or
London to Nottingham co-ed who has space in a car? If
so pleaase e-mail me <sheepie_d@yahoo.com>
Much appreciated, 
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due to the addition of further pitches we can now increase the number to 24. 

baf-you 're now in 
send £90 to 42 richmond mt, leeds, ls61df
payable 2 leeds ultimate

we'll limit numbers 2 20 or 24 ie if 21,22 or23 then the first 20 will qualify . 
17 teams entered so far

don't reply 2 this mail - it will be ignored

mail - asharma43@hotmail.com
arun

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This is for the attention of ;
     1.all the men who can't be without there loved ones during the womens 
nationals,
     2.Male groupies following the women to Leeds,
     3.Any one in the area that wants to come along.

We are planning a mini hat tournament to take place alongside the womens 
nationals.
The number of teams will be depedant on the number of womens teams entered 
but the format will most likley be a 4,or 6 team round robin.
Entry fee for this will be 5 pounds per player.

Anyone that knows they are definatley coming please let me know at the 
address below so we have a rough idea of numbers.

Reply to rikshipley@ntlworld.com

cheers  Rik

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Hi,

I don't know who or how britdisc got subscribed to the whisky thing but =
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It is possible that they got the e-mail address from searching though =
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These direction have been compiled using maps at Multimap.com
might be worth using their site to get a better picture.

>From the South & West M1, A50, M42
JCT 24(M1), move NE towards Notts on the A453
approx 5 miles
upon arrival at a major overpass, head for 
West Bridgeford on the B679
DO NOT TAKE THE OVERPASS
750metres, just after a Harvester Resturant TURN LEFT
The High Street

>From the North M1
JCT 26(M1), move SE towards Notts on the A610
approx 2.5 miles
turn Left on the A6514 (south - Clifton, Beeston, M1(S) etc..)
take the overpasses,
directly after the River Trent Overpass,
a sweeping Right hander, is a slip road to a roundabout
marked Clifton Road, B679. heading into the city.
750metres, just after a Harvester Resturant TURN LEFT
The High Street

continue to the end of this road, where camp and parking will be arranged.

PLEASE DO NOT Park in The Ferry Inn Car Park.
PLEASE lock all valuables out of sight.

There is a large InnerCity Festival within minutes of our site.

in case of difficulties, please call 07866 336643




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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Anyone travelling to Copa from the Manchester area who would be prepared to offer me a lift?</DIV>
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Hi Britdisc,

I am urgently looking for more DDC discs for this Sunday's DISC JAM at 
Elthorne Park, West London.

We weren't expecting so much interest in DDC and as a consequence we need 
more discs.

Does anyone have any that I could borrow?

If you live in London I can collect, or if you can post them to me I will 
reimburse your costs.

Many thanks.

Richard
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The expected timetable for the event is

Friday
Bar is open 6-12+
Barbecue 9-very late

Saturday
8.00 Breakfast
9.00 Capts Meeting
9.30 First Games (schedule to follow)
5.30 Last Games
Bar is open 12-12+
Barbecue 8am-very late
Party Hawaiian styleeeeeee

Sunday
8.00 Breakfast
9.30 First Games
5.00 Finals
6.00 Prize Ceremony
Bar is open 12-12+
Barbecue 8am-very late
Party (Free?) Cocktail Styleeeeeee

Monday
8.00 Breakfast
9.30 HAT event organisation
4.00 Final Games
Bar is open 12-6
Barbecue 8am-very late

About Camping & Parking
There is campin and parking available from 7pm Friday nite thru to 6pm Monday
PLEASE NOTE - there is almost enought space for everyone to camp/park. please endeavour to share vehicles and tents wherever possible.
Alternative accomodation; there is a selection of B&Bs and Hotels in the area, please contact Sam (07866 336643) asap if you prefer this option.

and still looking for the odd open team, and pickups for the open Division.  I understand that there are teams still looking for femmes to pickup for the Co-ed Division.

ere we go ere we go ere we go, ere we go ere we go ere we go-o....



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Si Weeks has only heard from FOUR TEAMS about Nationals, and it's only =
two weeks away!!!

And, of course, to make things complicated his job is moving him around =
the country right now.  But he still needs to hear from YOU if you want =
to play.

As he is moving about, you need to contact him on his mobile:  07815 126 =
573.  Send him a text message or talk to him to let him know if you are =
entering.  Tell him the cheque is in the mail. Tell him you're getting =
the cheque together.  Whatever- just tell him you're coming.

This is serious, folks.  If Si doesn't get some feedback TODAY or =
TOMMORROW he's going to have to cancel Nationals.  And that means I just =
get to choose who goes to Hawaii- and you don't want that, because I =
want to go myself.

So start dialing!

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Si Weeks has only heard from FOUR TEAMS =
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Nationals, and it's only two weeks away!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And, of course, to make things =
complicated his job=20
is moving him around the country right now.&nbsp; But he still needs to =
hear=20
from YOU if you want to play.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As he is moving about, you need to =
contact him on=20
his mobile:&nbsp; 07815 126 573.&nbsp; Send him a text message or talk =
to him to=20
let him know if you are entering.&nbsp; Tell him the cheque is in the =
mail. Tell=20
him you're getting the cheque together.&nbsp; Whatever- just tell him =
you're=20
coming.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is serious, folks.&nbsp; If Si =
doesn't get=20
some feedback TODAY or TOMMORROW he's going to have to cancel =
Nationals.&nbsp;=20
And that means&nbsp;I just get to choose who goes to Hawaii- and you =
don't want=20
that, because I want to go myself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So start dialing!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nancy</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: Notts Mixed Seedings
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Due to some confusion about schedules and past results in the Mixed =
Series, seedings for Notts are being calculated on BOTH the results from =
HK7's and the overall Mixed Series Standings.

I'm sorry if your team has been affected badly by this decision, but it =
the only fair way I can see of getting us back on track.

Below are the seedings.  If you have any complaints about it, send them =
to me.  Sam hasn't had anything to do with them.

1.Chevron
2.KUPA
3.Randy
4.BAF - Prague
5.Wage/Cyrille
6.Strange Blue
7.Li'l Sheff
8.JetSet (Leuven - based on last years results & Euros)

9.Blue Arse=20
10.Sneekies
11.Aurora
12.Red
13.Sublime
14.Mohawks
15.Venom
16.SuperFly

17.OUF(Tours - Based on last years results & Euro Results)
18.Jammy Bodgers7
19.MooTones
20.FlyghtClub


Please keep in mind that your seeding does not keep you from winning the =
entire tournament.  If I have bady mis-seeded you, make me look foolish =
by winning the whole enchilada.

nancy


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Due to some confusion about schedules =
and past=20
results in the Mixed Series, seedings for Notts are being calculated on =
BOTH the=20
results from HK7's and the overall Mixed Series Standings.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm sorry if your team has been =
affected badly by=20
this decision, but it the only fair way I can see of getting us back on=20
track.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Below are the seedings.&nbsp; If you =
have any=20
complaints about it, send them to me.&nbsp; Sam hasn't had anything to =
do with=20
them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1.Chevron<BR>2.KUPA<BR>3.Randy<BR>4.BAF =
-=20
Prague<BR>5.Wage/Cyrille<BR>6.Strange Blue<BR>7.Li'l Sheff<BR>8.JetSet =
(Leuven -=20
based on last years results &amp; Euros)<BR><BR>9.Blue Arse=20
<BR>10.Sneekies<BR>11.Aurora<BR>12.Red<BR>13.Sublime<BR>14.Mohawks<BR>15.=
Venom<BR>16.SuperFly<BR><BR>17.OUF(Tours=20
- Based on last years results &amp; Euro Results)<BR>18.Jammy=20
Bodgers7<BR>19.MooTones<BR>20.FlyghtClub<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please keep in mind that your seeding =
does not keep=20
you from winning the entire tournament.&nbsp; If I have bady mis-seeded =
you,=20
make me look foolish by winning the whole enchilada.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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To Chevron and Mud Culture-

Could whichever of your teamates in possession of the trophies =
(champions and spirit, respectively) arrange to get them to Si Weeks for =
nationals.

Maybe you could bring them to Notts?  Or just be sure they get to =
nationals, please.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To Chevron and Mud =
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flyghtclub are entering two teams at this weekends
copacabana, a team for the coed, and a student team
for the open division. we're looking a bit short at
the moment, so would like to take a few pickups for
the open team. we need two or three guys or gals, of
no fixed ability who are up for drinking, ultimate and
generally having a bit of fun. no previously
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<P>Not sure whether people have been following the World Games competition. Just for information, the golf has finished and Del and Ruth did a sterling effort on behalf of GB.</P>
<P>Del came in sixth apparently playing some of his best golf ever and Ruth has been awarded the bronze medal. Well done guys!!</P>
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ive just been told that jedi and mootones cant make
the open comp this weekend due to lack of interest. if
any of you guys still want to come, please feel free
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Hi all,</DIV>
<DIV>Is anyone travelling up to nottingham this weekend from the plymouth / westcountry area? </DIV>
<DIV>If so could i hitch a ride? You can reply to this address or call 07900412402.</DIV>
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.....On the board it looks like Derek Robbis of Britain got killed, but he
played some great golf. In particular, his match with Yusaku was brilliant.
Derek canned a 30 meter putt around protecting trees to steal a hole in
front of a big hometown crowd and a bunch of IOC suits who had come to
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Didn't realise Disc Golf was so dangerous!

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There is a team from Amsterdam coming to the Nottingham Coed, and some of them were hoping to hitch a lift from Luton Airport.
Is anybody with a little space be interested and generous enough to offer these fine people a ride to the event?

Please contact 
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Following teams are now entered for Glastonbury.  It is looking unlikely
that we will get 24 teams so it will be restricted to 20.

DiscoJanitors
Supanoodle
Mwncisee
Discult
Chuft
Red
Sneeekys
Phat'eds
Oddjob
Strange Blue
NightFever
Team Shark
Mud Culture
BAF
Superfly
STAN
Mootunes
SkuMy
SlimFast 
Smash n Grab  
 
Can you all send me the seeding that you think would be fair for your team -
I know it's hard as nobody know's anything about any other team.  The reason
for asking for this info is to reduce teams being annoyed with the way I
seed them.  If you don't mail me I'll seed you and if you complain - TS!!!

Sorry to any other teams that didn't make it - if you have sent cheques we
will hold until the t/ment in case other teams enter otherwise they will be
returned the week after.

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Hi,

I'm trying to get in contact with a few folks who at some time in the past
played for Stan.
I currently have the following on my wanted list:
Steve 'Crikey' Shepherd
Andy Pardoe
Keith Goodall
George Aslett
Paul Wilmott
Mark 'Al' Hooks

If any of you can help me out it would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Max
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Subject: Looking for Sublime people
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Hi

Sorry... if anyone from Sublime is out there, can they drop me a line?
Concerns this weekend.

Thanks

Paul Hurt

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Subject: Andy Cotgreave
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To hell with all those people too lazy to hit delete when trivial mails land
in their inbox!

Please can someone give me Andy Cotgreave's email address or tel no.

Thanks
Nolan

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Hello Britdisc,

Can anyone help Jeremy Way find Les Bryant?

Jeremy ran the UK Frisbee Association during the 70's and is trying hook up 
with Les, who was also involved during the 70's.

Please direct any leads to mailto:jeremy@hirch-way.com

Thanks
Richard

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I have been asked several times now, for the postcode of the Venue at Nottingham this weekend.

Sorry about taking so long.

NG11 7AA

Breathe.com has the facility to give you further diections, I think lots of other companies do too.



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Subject: An Icon Passes....
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 (Some say he had the last air knocked out of him upon hearing that the
ultimate team created in his image had disbanded...perhaps he just
didn't feel kneaded anymore)

  ------- Forwarded message follows -------
It is with much heaviness of heart that I pass along the following: 

Please join me in remembering a great American Icon - the veteran spokesman,

the Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection and complications

from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71. 

Doughboy was buried in a lightly greased coffin. Dozens of celebrities
turned 
out to pay their respects, including Mrs. Butterworth, Hungry Jack, the 
California Raisins, Betty Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, and Captain Crunch.

The gravesite was piled high with flours, as long-time friend, Aunt Jemima 
delivered a moving eulogy, describing Doughboy as a man who never knew how 
much he was kneaded. 

Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with 
turnovers. He was not considered a very smart cookie, wasting much of his 
dough on half-baked schemes. Despite being a little flaky at times, he was 
considered a roll model for millions. 

Doughboy is survived by his wife, Play Dough, and two children, John Dough 
and Jane Dough. Mrs. Dough has a bun in the oven. He is also survived by 
his elderly father, Pop Tart. 

The funeral was held at 3:50 for about twenty minutes, according to 
directions. 



-- 
Terri Whitehead

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> From: 	Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> Reply To: 	Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> Sent: 	Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:12 AM
> To: 	Clare Snell
> Subject: 	Re:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I now have ten teams definitely coming to Co-ed Nationals. Can those who
> have
> said yes, but not sent a cheque yet, please get it in the post asap. Any
> other
> co-ed teams who would like to come to the tournament are welcome. Just
> give me a
> call and I will tell you all the details.
> 
> As it stands:
> 
> Paid: BAF Prague, BAF Other, Strange Blue, Randy, KUPA, Little Sheff
> Yes, but no cheques received: Chevron, Wage/Cyrille, Sublime, Angels
> Still waiting for response from: Red, Aurora
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er, and the relevance of this to Britdisc is...?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terri Whitehead [mailto:terri@cloe.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: 23 August 2001 09:27
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: An Icon Passes....
> 
> 
>  (Some say he had the last air knocked out of him upon 
> hearing that the
> ultimate team created in his image had disbanded...perhaps he just
> didn't feel kneaded anymore)
...

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Oh hell andy,

		it was a lot funnier than "anyone got a contact for XXXXXX"
or "the teams entered for this tournament are XXXXXXXXX"

		bring 'em on I say!

		Nice one Terri. Are you here all week :)



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Cotgreave [mailto:Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk]
Sent: 23 August 2001 09:58
To: 'Terri Whitehead'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: An Icon Passes....


er, and the relevance of this to Britdisc is...?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terri Whitehead [mailto:terri@cloe.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: 23 August 2001 09:27
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: An Icon Passes....
> 
> 
>  (Some say he had the last air knocked out of him upon 
> hearing that the
> ultimate team created in his image had disbanded...perhaps he just
> didn't feel kneaded anymore)
...

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Hi

Sorry, but...

Does anyone happen to have one space in a car going to Nottingham this
weekend? (from London)

It's for someone more attractive and compact than me.

Thanks

Paul


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Hi all,

Can the organiser who mailed me after the southampton tournament saying that
they have my item of lost property, but whose email address appears to have
subsequently died, please get in touch again. It's been a while now and
you've not responded to requests to arrange retrieval! I'd really like to
get it back.

Cheers
Nolan


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BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY 


See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates.

Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/

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25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM MIXED - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]



NOTE: New Date




www.flyghtclub.com/tour


Sam Rey

Main Email: samanir@breathe.com

____________________________________________________________


25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN

Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf]


leg 8 bdga tour 2001
date and venue tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


01 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - MIXED NATIONALS

Location: Titchfield, Near Portsmouth - [Outdoor Ultimate]







Si Weeks

23 Shepards Close, Fareham, Hants, , PO14 3AJ

Main Email: mtjat@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

Mobile: 07815 126 573

____________________________________________________________


08 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY 2001

Location: GLASTONBURY  - [Outdoor Ultimate]


COST - £90
SEND CHEQUES TO         42 RICHMOND MOUNT
                        HEADINGLEY
                        LEEDS
                        LS6 1DF

MAKE CHEQUES PAYABLE TO -  LEEDS ULTIMATE
                         
CAMPING/FOOD/DRINK AVAILABLE ALL WEEKEND



LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

____________________________________________________________


08 SEPTEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON ULTIMATE LEAGUE FINALS

Location: Clapham Common, London - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Final of the London Ultimate League in the afternoon, plus mini hat tournament in the morning.


http://www.londonultimate.org


Paul Hurt

Main Email: paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk

Home Phone: 020 8767 8243

Mobile: 07740 406983

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMEN'S OUTDOOR NATIONALS

Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Hannah Easter / Arun Sharma

Main Email: hannah.easter@philips.com

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS

Location: Daventry - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Nancy Stebbing

Main Email: nancy.stebbing@tesco.net

Home Phone: 01280 701715

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS 25TH ANNIVERSARY

Location: University of Warwick - [Other Event]


Celebration event featuring some Ultimate and Disc Golf, with a dinner-dance on the Saturday night!

INVITATION ONLY [SORRY].

http://www.warwick.ac.uk/staff/D.P.Neilson/bears25/


Sam Neilson

20 Alexandra Court, Priory Road, Kenilworth, , CV8 1SB

Main Email: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk

Alternative Email: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01926 864 276

Work Phone: 024 7652 3880

Mobile: 07947 134 987

____________________________________________________________


27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Concorde Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Should be 16 beginners teams, 10 experienced teams.
3 pitches on Saturday, 2 on Sunday. 
£90 a team.
More details nearer the time.


http://www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate


Dave Sealy

243 Swanwick Lane, Swanwick, Southampton, , SO31 7GT

Main Email: ultimate@shef.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mea98djs@shef.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01489 575809

____________________________________________________________


19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

____________________________________________________________




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www.discjam.com - Disc Golf, Ultimate, Goaltimate and Double Disc Court

Thanks to all who came.

Richard

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Flyght Club people or anybody!!!

Where is the tournament being held?????   It's all well and good knowing the Postcode, but for those of us getting taxis from the Train station it isn't much help!!!

Cheers
ALi
S G

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These were posted a week or so ago... but here is a copy

Hannah (Cyrille)

These direction have been compiled using maps at Multimap.com
might be worth using their site to get a better picture.

>From the South & West M1, A50, M42
JCT 24(M1), move NE towards Notts on the A453
approx 5 miles
upon arrival at a major overpass, head for
West Bridgeford on the B679
DO NOT TAKE THE OVERPASS
750metres, just after a Harvester Resturant TURN LEFT
The High Street

>From the North M1
JCT 26(M1), move SE towards Notts on the A610
approx 2.5 miles
turn Left on the A6514 (south - Clifton, Beeston, M1(S) etc..)
take the overpasses,
directly after the River Trent Overpass,
a sweeping Right hander, is a slip road to a roundabout
marked Clifton Road, B679. heading into the city.
750metres, just after a Harvester Resturant TURN LEFT
The High Street

continue to the end of this road, where camp and parking will be arranged.

PLEASE DO NOT Park in The Ferry Inn Car Park.
PLEASE lock all valuables out of sight.

There is a large InnerCity Festival within minutes of our site.

in case of difficulties, please call 07866 336643




foolow this road to the end where you will be directed on to the




Lighting Design Engineer
LiDAC
Tel :  020 8781 8315
Fax : 020 8781 8018





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Flyght Club people or anybody!!!

Where is the tournament being held?????   It's all well and good knowing the Postcode, but for those of us getting taxis from the Train station it isn't much help!!!

Cheers
ALi
S G




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All your questions answered!!!

the venu will be the Notts Moderns RFC ground, Wilford Village.  I kept looking on the map in the wrong place for ages.
Its next to the Wilford Meadows school, and right next to the river, by Victoria Embankment.



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Hey, does anyone know where the best place to play
non-student Ultimate is in Edinburgh?


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Hi Andrew

There's plenty of old fart ultimate in Edinburgh. Sunday afternoons on the 
meadows is a fixture that's been in place for about 15 years now, and we
love it when new people come along for a game. We don't need to see your
matric card..

We also play at other times and places, but Wednesday evenings is a fairly
safe bet too, again on the meadows - usually near Middle Meadow walk, but
currently the Lady Boys of Bangkok are camping (arf arf) on our pitch, so 
just look for the wobbly hammers and that'll be us.

Send me an email and we'll chat, or just come along. Same goes for anyone 
else who's in Edinburgh and wants a game.

cheers
Andrew 
Sneeekys


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Hey,


Does any one know of anywhere around weybridge/guildford where i can find 
some teams or just turn up and play?

thanks

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Due to xxx*&^%!!!!! Angels need to pick up a couple of women players for 
co-ed nationals this weekend

Anyone who wants to play please contact Si B or Sarah G

si    x

sibarry@hotmail.com
sarah.gibbons@sportal.net,

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Just to let everyone who was at Nottingham that there are some pictures
available of the event.

Click on www.photobox.co.uk/merlin to view and order copies.

Regards


Graeme Winlow. 

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Sam will be sending a tournament report but before that
I thought I should send one out to thank everyone that 
contributed to the 2nd Annual Copa Cabana.  We couldn't
have pulled this off without them...

The Cast in Order of Appearance...

Sam who worked 24 hours a day holding the whole event together 
and for all of the work he did in advance of the event to make 
it all happen.  Thanks also the those who helped in the prep as
well since as much as he tries, Sam didn't do it all alone.

Jim and company at the Notts Moderns RFC who were absolutely
amazing.  They contributed so much beyond the call of duty to help
everything run smoothly and are now 100% into helping to grow 
Ultimate in Nottingham.  As a result of success of the tournament 
they have offered the venue as our permanent practice area.

Joh who was up at the crack of dawn each day picking up and
returning the transit Van and without complaint drove things and
people all over Nottingham the whole weekend.

Dani and Emma for the stunning decor of the Copa itself.  I heard
many compliments from people about it.

Jim, Neil, Alan, Vince, Joy and Dene, and probably a couple I'm 
forgetting, for setting up the Copa tent.  
It is a bit of a nightmare getting that thing up.

Vito and Ben for working out the pitches and sizes and marking 
the lines given the constraints of the venue.

Chopper, Rob, Ben and Martin the DJs.
Ben and Martin are playing on the 13th of Sept in Notts. Possibly
at the Maze if you wish to hear more.
Trickster the band who played a stunning set
We hope all of you will be back next year.

The BBQ team
Vince for being superman on the BBQ.  Was it 10 hours straight?
Dene.  Superb BBQ work as well.  Nice BBQ apron thing.
Dan S.  The ultimate salesman
    Marco  "How about a discount for one of the founding members of
Nottingham Ult..."
    Dan S  "NO  FUCK OFF!"
Too many to mention so thanks to Emma, Olly G, Tom, Steffi, Neil, Jim and 
countless others who took a shift keeping the eternal BBQ flame burning.

Neil and Steve for organising the Hat tournament which we forgot 
to charge any money for. Oops.

And lastly to those who helped with the Cleanup.  Names that come
to mind are Neil, Jim, Ben, Steff, Joh, Tom, Vince, Joy, Emma, Dene
and a loads of people from various teams that helped with the 
deconstruction of the Copa.

Thanks to everyone who came.  Apologies for the slow/late start. My fault
since
I was driving about Nottingham running errands with all of the schedules in
my back seat. Oops again.

Apologies if I missed anyone. I'm feeling a bit groggy today.

We hope to see a bigger and more ridiculously fun event go on next year
and we hope you'll all want to be ...at the Copa... Copa Cabana!

Steve G.
Flyght Club

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Re Glastonbury.

Firstly this is a final team listing.

Teamshark	
SlimFast	 
Supanoodle	
DiscoJanitors		
STAN		
NightFever	
Smash n Grab	 
BAF		
Strange Blue	
SkuMy		
Oddjob		
Phat'eds	
Red		
Discult		
Mud Culture	
Playthings  	
Superfly	
Mootunes	
Chuft		
Sneeekys	
Mwncisee	
Pasty Smashers

If two more teams want to enter the we can accommodate you.

Directions
>From North get onto M5 south
Get off at Jct 23
Take A39 to Shepton
Go through Street towards Glastonbury.
At r/about when you turn right to Glastonbury the sports ground is on the
left.
If you go past Safeway you've gone too far.
Venue - Tour Leisure Centre.

Camping available all w/end.  If you want B&B call the Market House Inn on
01458 832220 we have a discount rate for rooms sorted.

Captains meeting Sat 9am.  Food, Drink available all w/end.  The club has
organised a deal with Safeway to give frisbee players preferential rates so
see me B4 you buy.

Also I need a volunteer who is willing to sort the choonz out - you need
your own system.  You will be rewarded for your wk.

Any probs try to work them out yourself but if you're really stuck then let
me know.

Arun/Rik




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OK- here's a colossal cock-up for you.

I neglected to arrange to collect rosters for Nottingham.  AND Nationals =
is this weekend.  So could you please help me out???

If you can, email me rosters (names only are fine) for Notts and =
Nationals.  I'll check everything as I get it, so rosters can be =
'approved' in advance of Saturday wherever possible.  If you can't email =
me stuff, please give it to Si at Nationals this weekend.

Seedings for Nationals will be issued once I get the results from Notts.

Thanks for helping me out here.  I've been a bit distracted the past few =
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nancy


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hello british peoples!

as i was el capitano boracho of Jet Set i just wanted to thank the
Copa-organisation for the work they did.
we found out mondaymorning we won spirit, which immediately washed away the
mondaymorning in the office feeling and put a smile on all our faces.
thanks to all the teams who were there, playing spirited high level co-ed
ultimate.
!!! long live Bary Manilow !!!

Peter
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> From: 	Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> Reply To: 	Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> Sent: 	Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:56 PM
> To: 	Clare Snell
> Subject: 	Re:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> The confirmed line up for Co-ed Nationals this weekend is as follows:
> 
> Chevron Action Flash
> Little Shef
> KUPA
> Strange Blue
> Blue Arse Flies Prague
> Blue Arse Flies Others
> Sublime
> Angels
> Randy
> Aurora Borealis
> Wage/Cyrille
> 
> This gives a total of 11 teams for this weekend, which is one team short
> of an
> ideal format. Therefore I would like if possible to create a pick up team
> to
> fill this final slot. Any players who would be interested in playing on
> this
> team should let me know asap, by phone text or email.
> 
> On Saturday night a party has been arranged at the Forte Posthouse. This
> will
> begin at 6.00pm in anticipation of the 6.30pm kick off of the England vs
> Germany
> game. I have arranged for them to supply a television for us all to watch
> the
> game with the bar opening early so that we can drink, sing and urge
> England onto
> victory. In the unlikely event of defeat we can always take our
> frustrations out
> on the Kiwis present. Jackson would seem the obvious target! Following the
> football, the chairs will be cleared and a dance floor created, as the
> party
> continues with a DJ playing all the hits of the 70s, 80s and 90s. 
> 
> With the early start of the party and given the small number of teams
> competing
> at the tournament I will ensure all games on the Saturday will be finished
> by
> about 4.30pm. This will give people time to shower, change, eat and for
> those
> staying at the Posthouse Forte enough time to swim in the pool or soak in
> the
> jacuzzi before the big match.
> 
> I will post directions to the venue later in the week.
> See you in Titchfield.
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Si Weeks
> 
> tel: 07815 126573 
> email: siweeks@bigfoot.com 
> 
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Directions to All Destinations:

Leave the M27 at Junction 9. From the east turn left at the roundabout. From the
west turn right.
Continue to the next roundabout and take the 3rd exit signposted "Fareham, A27".
Continue for about 1.5 miles to the next rounabout, which has the Forte
Posthouse on the left.

Directions to the Forte Posthouse (Hotel):
At the Forte Posthouse roundabout take the 1st exit (Cartwright Drive).
Then take the first turning on the right into the hotel car park.

Directions to West Hill Park School (Pitches):
At the Forte Posthouse roundabout take the 3rd exit (St Margarets Lane).
After about 0.5 miles you will see school warning signs.
Just afterwards is a right turn into West Hill Park School opposite West Street
on the left.
If you reach the end of the road you have gone too far.

Directions to Drove Lea Farm Caravan Site (Camping):
At the Forte Posthouse roundabout take the 2nd exit (A27)
Continue down the steep hill to the bottom (beware there is a speed camera here)
At the bottom of the hill turn left down Mill Lane. The Titchfield Mill PH is on
the corner.
After about 0.25 miles you will pass the Fisherman's Rest PH on your right.
The campsite is about another 0.25 miles on the left. 

By public transport:
The most convenient rail or coach station to travel to is Fareham.
A taxi to the venue, camping or hotel from there will cost around seven pounds.



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Are there any practices in Sheffield at the mo (i.e.
before start of uni term)? I've just moved back to
Sheffield and need to play...

Catherine
ex. Phat Ed and various others

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Hello Everyone

Captains meeting will be at 9-00am on Saturday
morning, with first games being at 9-30am - almost all
teams will be playing at 9-30.

Any problems then please contact me on 07815 126573,
as I will only be on email until 6pm tomorrow(30/8).

See you all there
Si Weeks

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Please, please, please-

Anyone 'official' from Nottingham please post the results.  I need them =
to seed nationals which is in two days!!!!

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Just to keep you informed-

Several teams have apporached me with specific requests to alter their =
rosters for nationals due to player shortages and other such matters.

In some cases I HAVE made exceptions.  So it seems only fair to tell all =
of you- if you need a break of some sort, ask and maybe you'll get one.

If you do have a question about who is playing on a specific team this =
weekend- please ask the opposing team what their situation is.  If you =
then have an objection- call me at home 01280 701715 and we'll discuss =
it.

All teams that have asked for exceptions have been warned that if they =
do something stupid like win the tournament, their result would have to =
be reviewed before they get any sort of invite to go anywhere sunny and =
tropical next summer.  So before you use this as a chance to pick-up a =
ringer, keep in mind what your ultimate goal might be this weekend.

Seedings will be out as soon as I get the NOtts results.

Have a good weekend!
nancy


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Several teams have apporached me with =
specific=20
requests to alter their rosters for nationals due to player shortages =
and other=20
such matters.</FONT></DIV>
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playing on a=20
specific team this weekend- please ask the opposing team what their =
situation=20
is.&nbsp; If you then have an objection- call me at home 01280 701715 =
and we'll=20
discuss it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All teams that have asked for =
exceptions have been=20
warned that if they do something stupid like win the tournament, their =
result=20
would have to be reviewed before they get any sort of invite to go =
anywhere=20
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to=20
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results.</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: seedings for Mixed Nationals
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Based on the results I have for Notts, the following are the seedings =
for Mixed Nationals.  Please check the Notts results for errors, as =
there may be mistakes.


OVERALL RANKING                TEAM                              NOTTS   =
                 TOTAL

            1                                Chevron                     =
       42  (3rd)                    162
            2                                KUPA                        =
       50  (2nd)                   142
            3                                Randy                       =
       29  (5th)                    118
            4                                Strange Blue                =
     60  (1st)                    110
            5                                BAF Prague                  =
    20  (7th)                    84
            6                                Wage Cyrille                =
     35  (4th)                    76
            7                                Li'l Shef                   =
         24  (6th)                    58
            8                                BAF Others                  =
    17  (9th)                    55=20
            9                                Sneeekys                    =
     14  (10th)                  39
            10                              Red                          =
        10  (13th)                  35
            11                              Sublime                      =
      11  (11th, new player)  22
            12                              Aurora Borealis              =
   10  (16th)                   21
            13                              Mowhawks                     =
   10  (15th)                  20
            14                              Angels                       =
        -                              20
            15                              Superfly                     =
       10  (12th)                  10
            16                              Jaimie Bodgers 7             =
  10  (17th)                  10
            17                              Flyght Club                  =
     10  (18th)                   10
            18                              Venom                        =
      10  (19th)                  10
            19                              Jedi Children                =
      -                              10

Let me know of any errors.

Good luck this weekend,
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Based on the results I have for Notts, =
the=20
following are the seedings for Mixed Nationals.&nbsp; Please check the =
Notts=20
results for errors, as there may be mistakes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OVERALL RANKING&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
TEAM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; NOTTS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TOTAL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Chevron&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 42&nbsp; (3rd)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
162</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
KUPA&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
50&nbsp;=20
(2nd)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
142</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Randy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;29&nbsp;=20
(5th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 118</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Strange Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 60&nbsp;=20
(1st)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
110</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
BAF=20
Prague&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
20&nbsp; (7th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 84</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Wage Cyrille&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 35&nbsp; =
(4th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
76</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Li'l Shef&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 24&nbsp;=20
(6th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 58</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
BAF=20
Others&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;17&nbsp;=
=20
(9th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 55</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sneeekys&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14&nbsp;=20
(10th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;39</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Red&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10&nbsp;=20
(13th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;35</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sublime&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 11&nbsp; (11th, new player)&nbsp;=20
22</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Aurora=20
Borealis&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10&nbsp;=20
(16th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 21</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Mowhawks&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp;=20
(15th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 20</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Angels&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
20</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Superfly&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp;=20
(12th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jaimie=20
Bodgers&nbsp;7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; (17th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Flyght=20
Club&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;10&n=
bsp;=20
(18th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Venom&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp;=20
(19th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
19&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Jedi Children&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let me know of any errors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck this weekend,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nancy</FONT></DIV>
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anyone know anything OFFICIAL about WUCC2002 in Hawaii ?

Like, how many teams each country (initially) gets to enter to each
division, and what it's going to cost?

The tourney website is expanding daily, but I can't find this info on
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To: "Wayne Retter" <wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk>,
   "BritDisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Hawaii
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:00:19 +0100
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Wayne (and others)
The team allocation should be announced soon by WFDF - I think they were
waiting for World Games to finish, but nothing has been officially
announced.
There is cost info on the web site.
Don't worry, the BUF will let everyone know when it does become official!

Laura Pearce
BUF National Director
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
To: BritDisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:07 PM
Subject: Hawaii


> anyone know anything OFFICIAL about WUCC2002 in Hawaii ?
>
> Like, how many teams each country (initially) gets to enter to each
> division, and what it's going to cost?
>
> The tourney website is expanding daily, but I can't find this info on
> it!
>
> Cheers
> Wayne Retter
> Fluid Druids
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Wayne Retter
> mobile: 07970-903420
> w.retter@bigfoot.com
> office: 01737-273655


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Subject: Directions to Coed Nationals
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On behalf of Si Weeks here are more detailed directions to the Coed
Nationals this weekend.
-----------
Directions to All Destinations:

Leave the M27 at Junction 9. From the east turn left at the roundabout. From
the
west turn right.
Continue to the next roundabout and take the 3rd exit signposted "Fareham,
A27".
Continue for about 1.5 miles to the next rounabout, which has the Forte
Posthouse on the left.

Directions to the Forte Posthouse (Hotel):
At the Forte Posthouse roundabout take the 1st exit (Cartwright Drive).
Then take the first turning on the right into the hotel car park.

Directions to West Hill Park School (Pitches):
At the Forte Posthouse roundabout take the 3rd exit (St Margarets Lane).
After about 0.5 miles you will see school warning signs.
Just afterwards is a right turn into West Hill Park School opposite West
Street
on the left.
If you reach the end of the road you have gone too far.

Directions to Drove Lea Farm Caravan Site (Camping):
At the Forte Posthouse roundabout take the 2nd exit (A27)
Continue down the steep hill to the bottom (beware there is a speed camera
here)
At the bottom of the hill turn left down Mill Lane. The Titchfield Mill PH
is on
the corner.
After about 0.25 miles you will pass the Fisherman's Rest PH on your right.
The campsite is about another 0.25 miles on the left. 

By public transport:
The most convenient rail or coach station to travel to is Fareham.
A taxi to the venue, camping or hotel from there will cost around seven
pounds.

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Subject: Mixed nationals seedings CORRECTION
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Sorry guys- I used the wrong figures to calculate Wage/Cyrille's =
seeding.  So it should look like this:

OVERALL RANKING             TEAM                    NOTTS                =
TOTAL
       =20
            5                              Wage/Cyrille              35  =
(4th)             88
            6                              BAF Prague               20  =
(7th)             84



Everyone else is the same.  Sorry about the mistake.


nancy


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry guys- I used the wrong figures to =
calculate=20
Wage/Cyrille's seeding.&nbsp; So it should look like this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OVERALL=20
RANKING&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;TEAM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
NOTTS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
TOTAL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wage/Cyrille&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 35&nbsp;=20
(4th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
88</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF=20
Prague&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
20&nbsp;=20
(7th)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;=20
84</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everyone else is the same.&nbsp; Sorry =
about the=20
mistake.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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In muppet-like style I've lost my mobile and phonebook
and need to get a hold of said Tom White asap

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anyone know his mobile?


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Strange Blue is looking for pickups for the Glastonbury tournament next
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Cheers,
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Nottinghams' Copa Cabana 2001 was combination of fun and serious spun into a melee of Music, Ultimate and Hedonism.

The Welcome party kicked off with several teams making it to Nottingham early, not wanting to miss anything.  The Moderns Clubhouse Bar ran until 3am and the music from His Highness Sound System, just didn’t stop.

Saturday started slowly, with schedules going walkabout, but this gave everyone time to enjoy breakfast and shuffle out of the haze of mornings and a few shuffles to the format & rules, games started late but smoothly.  By the end of the day several teams had been ousted from their positions.  Most notably for us was SuperFly finally beating Red, a close game, and possibly not to be seen again for a while.

During the afternoon there was a series of strange weather conditions, one down pour in particular were the Animal shaped hailstones almost floating from the sky.  Could it have been a message from God?  Perhaps…  What could she have been suggesting?

Did anyone hear Bryan Adams playing at the festival across the river?  The kids from the Meadows estate shot at him, while he was on stage… only joking, shame though isn’t it. (Ed. Note:  Canada has apologised on many occasions for Bryan Adams)

The BIG party on Saturday nite requested Hawaiian skirts n shirts, the ingenious Emma  (Munchkin) supplied some of the best.  What time did you sleep?  A big apology goes out to those who actually tried to sleep that nite.

Sunday brought a new schedule format and some of the best play, in particular the up and coming teams looking for a place at Nationals.  In the upper pools, Chevron were suffering from substantial abuse after being copa’d & missed out on the opportunity of another final being beaten by Strange Blue leaving them to battle it out with KUPA, for the coveted ‘Robin the Bold’ character prize.

Kupa controlled the action for most of the first half, leaving Strange points behind at half time. During the second half, heightening the thrills of the finale, Strange fought strong and hard to assert themselves into the game.  Layout action and solid play won the day thru Stange winning the event by a narrow but definite margin.

Many tired and dishevelled players found themselves pondering aimlessly on Sunday nite and the quiet revellery floated to the Marquee and took advantage of the FlyghtClub Bar.

The HAT event was a fun, 6-team affair, with all the teams winning one and losing one.  So, on points difference ‘Free Beer 4 Team 1’ and ‘Look! No Hands’ plied points in an attempt to look good on camera.  Sammy Neilson led a team of judges scoring the games by quality, ranging ½ point to 4 points depending on skill, silliness, effectiveness and showmanship.

Free Beer came from half time 9.4 losers to take the game 21.20 at full time.  There may have been a prize ceremony, nobody knows.

In addition to an earlier email, I would like to add my thanks to everyone who helped to make this happen and to everyone who came and enjoyed, without you there would be no excuse for this kind of gathering.  Thanks to all of you, especially those who travelled far.  Special thanks to Jimi & Jules @ Moderns & His Highness Sounds.


 Prize Winners

SPIRIT Winners – JETSET (Leuven, Belgium)
EVENT Champions – STRANGE BLUE 
PLATE Winners – BLUE ARSE FLIES II
CUP Winners – JAMMY BODGERS 7
MVPS (Finals) – Kris from KUPA & Britney from Strange Blue

And finally the listings

1.	Strange Blue
2.	KUPA
3.	Chevron Action Flash
4.	Wage Cyrille
5.	Randy
6.	Li’l Sheff
7.	Blue Arse Flies (Prague)
8.	Jet Set 
9.	Blue Arse Flies II
10.	Sneeekys
11.	Sublime
12.	SuperFly
13.	Red
14.	Olympique OUF (Tours, France)
15.	Mohawks
16.	Aurora Borealis
17.	Jammy Bodgers 7
18.	Flyght Club
19.	Venom
20.	Crunch (Amsterdam, Holland)



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ohmigod
OhMiGod
OHMIGOD!
Wow!
ohmigod!
Hmmm, d'you think I can drink out of this?


I reckon she was pretty happy to receive the MVP award, don't you?

Wayne

PS: Thanks to all for a great Mixed Nationals. Sorry we couldn't stay
for the presentation, we had a flight to catch... but missed it!

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Just so as to embarrass Rik Shipley I would like to highlight that after his 
success at the weekend he is the proud holder of 4 titles – Nationals Open 
(outdoor), Nationals Indoors (schmindoors), World Open Club (Beach) and now 
Co-ed Nationals (outdoor.)
Well Done Rik - you tart!
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Dear all,

The first details of entry and allocations for Hawaii are now public:-

http://www.wfdf.org/2002WUCCapp.htm

It appears we have initial quotas as follows:-

Open: 2 teams
Women: 3 teams
Mixed: 2 teams
Masters: 1 team

If your team is up for it let us know. Bear in mind that a) the allocations
usually increase as other countries decline theirs, b) those b*****ds who
just pipped you to Xth slot in the Tour may not be able to afford to go.

What I'm saying is that if you're team has anything above a glimmer of a
chance then you should speak now.

Ben
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Phat 'Eds need a couple of pick ups for the tournament this weekend in =
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Hi,

I am out of the office until Thursday (6th Sept).  Please redirect work queries to one of my colleagues on ext.6075.

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If any blokes are going to be in leeds during womens
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We have been getting a lot of interest in the Beginners tournament 
here in Sheffield so hopefully this email gives all the latest 
information and can answer all the questions of those who have 
contacted us already.


Details as follows:

27/28th October 2001
16 beginners teams, 10 experienced
3 pitches on Saturday, 2 on Sunday
Party on Saturday night with late license until 2am
£90 a team
At Concorde sports centre as usual
Free accommodation provided in Phat 'Eds member's houses, but 
if you can
find alternative accommodation it would be helpful as we will be 
pushed
for space.

Team priorities

As it is primarily a beginners tournament, experienced teams will be
allocated places with priority given to experienced teams 
accompanied by beginners teams.

(For those entering beginners teams that have already contacted 
us your places should be guaranteed if you can send your entry 
fees by the 6th of October. However there have been a rather large 
interest in the experienced division and priority will therefore be 
given to teams entering a beginners team(s).)

Rules

Beginners are players who have been playing for less than 3 
months.  Games are 5 a side with a maximum one experienced 
player on the pitch per side. 
Experienced players wear a hat, the stupider the better.

Entry details

Please send separate cheques for each team entered.
Entry deadline is 6th October, I promise no cheques will be cashed 
until
this date. Cheques payable to Peter Elliot

Send to:
Sheffield Beginners Tournament,
190 Industry Street,
Walkley,
Sheffield,
S6 2WX.

Please note Tournament Director's decision is final!

Any problems or questions please email me

Regards,

Dave Sealy
(Tournament Director) 



Visit our website at www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate

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Are any of the Block Stack video people out there? Please drop me a line
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Thanks

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Open Nationals costs have been confirmed, so you can start sending =
money!

Cheques to Nancy Stebbing for =A3135 (which includes BUF tax).  Send =
them to

10 Buckingham Road
Brackley
Northants  NN13  7HH

Deadline is September 20, no exceptions.  Please include a contact name =
with both email and snail mail addresses so we can contact you and send =
maps and thingies.

The tournament is open to the top 32 teams in the country, as determined =
by the Ultim8 Tour results.  If you didn't play in the Tour and want to =
come anyway, send a cheque now which we'll hold, and then allocate any =
spaces left over to you.

In case you missed them the first time, below are location and =
accomodation details.  Maps and directions will follow as soon as we get =
a decent set.



OPEN NATIONALS-  OCTOBER 6-7   DAVENTRY SPORTS GROUNDS, DAVENTRY

The Open Nationals are confirmed at Daventry for the above dates.  =
Daventry is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, and about 16 miles north =
of Banbury (site of Tour 2).  More directions, maps, and web resources =
regarding location will follow.  Please be advised- you will need some =
sort of private transport.  As this is a last minute arrangement, the =
site is NOT near a train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), =
and accomodation is off-site.  Please accept my apologies- this is the =
best we (the BUF) can do for now.

The tournament is open to the top 32 teams initially.  (Chris Hughes is =
handling the format, so please send any inquiries about it to him.)  =
However, in the event that some of those teams do not attend, the =
remaining spots will be passed down the rankings until the tournament is =
filled.  It is entirely possible (but maybe not likely) that teams who =
have not played in the Tour at all could be offered a spot.  If you want =
to come- send a cheque by the deadline and see what happens.  =
(Obviously, cheques will be returned if space is not offered). =20

At this time, it is expected that the BUF AGM will be held on Saturday =
night.  Therefore, there is no official party planned.  However, the bar =
at the hotel accomodation will be open to all players.  See below for =
details.

ACCOMMODATION

Camping is available for no cost at a local farm,  Meadows Farm.  The =
farm is 2 miles from the pitches, but it is not a journey that should be =
attempted on foot.  The camping will be BASIC.  This means port-a-loos, =
two sinks in the garage (that DO have hot water) and that's it.  Camping =
is available both Friday and Saturday nights.  If it's not raining, it's =
a really pleasant site.  You ARE permitted to bring cooking supplies/ =
barbecues, whatever.  Meadows Farm is part of a local B&B association.  =
You can check out the location and other info at =
www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk
=20
As well as Meadows Farm, there are other farm B&Bs nearby see the above =
site for more info.  (As well as campers, Meadows Farm will take B&B =
bookings.)  FYI, Drayton Lodge (one of the B&Bs on the web site) is =
almost directly across the street from the pitches.

Staverton Park Conference centre is offering a special room rate for the =
tournament.  It is located one mile from the pitches.  Rooms are =
available for Friday and Saturday nights.  Rooms are =A350- single or =
double occupancy.  This rate includes full English breakfast, ensuite =
rooms, fully equiped rooms (tea&coffee, hairdryer, ironing board, radio, =
TV, etc.) use of the restaurant for dinner (at an additional cost) and =
use of the leisure club (which has a swimming pool and sauna).  The =
centre also has a bar.  And for those of you with more money than sense, =
Staverton has a golf course; tee times are available.  Check out the =
facilities at www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk =20
Rooms are on a first-come first serve basis.  Call 01327 302 000 to =
book, and ask for the frisbee rate.  You'll need a credit card for a =
deposit.

OTHER INFO

There will be on-site food both Satruday and Sunday.  I am negotiating =
to keep costs down.

Entry deadline is September 20. =20

Any questions?  Contact me on this email address or on 01280 701 715.


Nancy Stebbing


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=A3135 (which=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>10 Buckingham Road</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brackley</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Northants&nbsp; NN13&nbsp; =
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exceptions.&nbsp;=20
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so we can=20
contact you and send maps and thingies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The tournament is open to the top 32 =
teams in the=20
country, as determined by the Ultim8 Tour results.&nbsp; If you didn't =
play in=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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and about=20
16 miles north of Banbury (site of Tour 2).&nbsp; More directions, maps, =
and web=20
resources regarding location will follow.&nbsp; Please be advised- you =
will need=20
some sort of private transport.&nbsp; As this is a last minute =
arrangement, the=20
site is NOT near a train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), =
and=20
accomodation is off-site.&nbsp; Please accept my apologies- this is the =
best we=20
(the BUF) can do for now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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teams=20
initially.&nbsp; (Chris Hughes is handling the format, so please send =
any=20
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likely) that=20
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spot.&nbsp; If=20
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happens.&nbsp;=20
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BUF AGM will=20
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planned.&nbsp; However, the bar at the hotel accomodation will be open =
to all=20
players.&nbsp; See below for details.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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local=20
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but it is=20
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be=20
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Saturday=20
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You ARE=20
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whatever.&nbsp;&nbsp;Meadows=20
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location and other info at <FONT color=3D#000080><A=20
href=3D"http://www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk">www.northantsfarmholidays=
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other farm=20
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campers,=20
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of the=20
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pitches.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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offering a=20
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the=20
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Rooms=20
are =A350- single or double occupancy.&nbsp; This rate includes full =
English=20
breakfast, ensuite rooms, fully equiped rooms (tea&amp;coffee, =
hairdryer,=20
ironing board, radio, TV, etc.) use of the restaurant for dinner (at an=20
additional cost) and use of the leisure club (which has a swimming pool =
and=20
sauna).&nbsp; The centre also has a bar.&nbsp; And for those of you with =
more=20
money than sense, Staverton has a golf course; tee times are =
available.&nbsp;=20
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href=3D"http://www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk">www.poolatstavertonpark.co.=
uk</A>&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rooms are on a first-come first serve =
basis.&nbsp;=20
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need a=20
credit card for a deposit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OTHER INFO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Satruday and=20
Sunday.&nbsp; I am negotiating to keep costs down.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Entry deadline&nbsp;is September =
20.&nbsp;=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any questions?&nbsp; Contact me on this =
email=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nancy Stebbing</FONT></DIV>
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I have rosters from the following teams:

KUPA
Strange Blue
BAF Prague
BAF Others
Wage Cyrille
Aurora Borealis

The rest of you need to email your nationals roster to me.

If you haven't already seen- BUF have two slots for Mixed teams at =
Hawaii, for now.  Keep in mind that half of Europe doesn't play Mixed =
seriously, and this will be an expensive trip. So I would expect to get =
a few more slots.

If you want to go, regardless of where you finished, speak up now, to =
either Ben Ravillious or myself, and we'll see what happens.  (So get =
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Ummm, also- could someone please post the results so I know what =
actually happenned?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>KUPA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BAF Prague</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BAF Others</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wage Cyrille</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aurora Borealis</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you haven't already seen- BUF have =
two slots for=20
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doesn't=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you want to go, regardless of where =
you=20
finished, speak up now, to either Ben Ravillious or myself, and we'll =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ummm, also- could someone please post =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Does anyone have a UK source for Wham-o Guts Pro 15 discs?

Paul Holden
ex Lurkers, ex SLUT, now Slipdisc Birmingham

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First of all thanks to everyone who made it.

The results were as follows

1. Wage/Cyrille
2. Chevron Action Flash
3. Strange Blue
4. Randy
5. Kupa           ( Spirit Winners )
6. Little Shef
7. BAF Others
8. Baf Prague
9. Aurora Borealis/Sublime Patriots
11. Angels

A very competitive first day saw  Wage Cyrille and Strange Blue top their 
respective pools.  The quater finals went pretty much as expected with Randy 
knocking out Kupa in the big match.

In the semi's Wage/Cyrille and Randy traded to about 14 all before the combi 
team came out on top.  In the other semi final Chevron gained revenge over 
Strange Blue after last weeks semi final defeat pulling away to win 
convincingly.

The final a repeat of last years was an epic with Chevron gaining an early 
advantage and holding it into the cap.  A series of long drawn out points 
punctuated by numerious time outs went the way of Wage/Cyrille thanks to 
some great defence to take the match into sudden death.  Chevron started in 
possession but after another time out they were turned over and Wage/Cyrille 
staedily worked it down the pich for the winning score.

Thanks to everyone who helped especially Blue Arse Flies who tidied up to 
great effect and thanks to Si for hosting and running the touranament.

Cheers

Rob Owen

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Hi,

Is anyone from the Shrewsbury area going to Glastonbury this w/e? Maybe
somebody from Slipdisc (appologies for the spelling)?

Please e-mail me or phone 01743 872973.

Cheers
Mark



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As the subject line suggests,

I'm hoping to get a lift down to Glastonbury this weekend.  I'm just outside
of London, so will make it to anywhere convenient for the generous driver.
Normal offer of petrol money, scintillating conversation and wide musical
taste apply.

Thanx in advance for any help.

Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk

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Hiya! I'm looking for a team to play with for womens
nationals. If anyone is short on players I would love
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Could someone send out the directions to the Glastonbury Tournament 
please.

I know that thay have already been sent, but I forgot to read and save 
them, so could I have them again....

Thanks

Cliff

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Dear all,

I just wanted to thank SI weeks for organising a fantastic tournament and
everyone else involved with Mixed Nationals last weekend.  (I'm not sure if
they had anything to do with the England result but it completed the weekend
perfectly)

I am sorry I had to dash off before the presentation but I had a date with
the Winchester Texaco, But I wanted to thank you for the fabulous MVP award.
I was so surprised and I particularly value it because of the Epic final!!
So Big thank yous  to wage/cyrille as it was a total team effort and I think
we all brought the best play out in each other.

Thank you to Chevy for such an awesome final!! It doesn't get much closer
than sudden death and you played and ran hard until the last moments.

Thanks again,

Rebecca

(safely back in Holland)


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Subject: London League Final and hat tournament
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Hi BritDisc

The London Ultimate League Final takes place this Saturday at Clapham
Common.

The final starts at 3.15pm, on the pitch by Clapham South tube station.
Should be a top game. Come and spectate. Bring friends.

There is also a small hat tournament starting late morning, at the same
location. If you'd like to play, drop me an e-mail now, and show up by
11.30am to register.

Big party night out in the evening too.

More info, maps etc, on the league website at http://www.londonultimate.org

Cheers


Paul Hurt
Clapham Ultimate and general London League bloke.




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Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

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08 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY 2001

Location: GLASTONBURY  - [Outdoor Ultimate]


COST - £90
SEND CHEQUES TO         42 RICHMOND MOUNT
                        HEADINGLEY
                        LEEDS
                        LS6 1DF

MAKE CHEQUES PAYABLE TO -  LEEDS ULTIMATE
                         
CAMPING/FOOD/DRINK AVAILABLE ALL WEEKEND



LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF

Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM

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08 SEPTEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON ULTIMATE LEAGUE FINALS

Location: Clapham Common, London - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Final of the London Ultimate League in the afternoon, plus mini hat tournament in the morning.


http://www.londonultimate.org


Paul Hurt

Main Email: paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk

Home Phone: 020 8767 8243

Mobile: 07740 406983

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMEN'S OUTDOOR NATIONALS

Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Hannah Easter / Arun Sharma

Main Email: hannah.easter@philips.com

____________________________________________________________


22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5

Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 9


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS

Location: Daventry - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Nancy Stebbing

Main Email: nancy.stebbing@tesco.net

Home Phone: 01280 701715

____________________________________________________________


06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN

Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf]


bdga tour 2001 leg 10
the last open event of this years tour
date tbc


andy lucey

Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com

____________________________________________________________


27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS 25TH ANNIVERSARY

Location: University of Warwick - [Other Event]


Celebration event featuring some Ultimate and Disc Golf, with a dinner-dance on the Saturday night!

INVITATION ONLY [SORRY].

http://www.warwick.ac.uk/staff/D.P.Neilson/bears25/


Sam Neilson

20 Alexandra Court, Priory Road, Kenilworth, , CV8 1SB

Main Email: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk

Alternative Email: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01926 864 276

Work Phone: 024 7652 3880

Mobile: 07947 134 987

____________________________________________________________


27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Concorde Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Should be 16 beginners teams, 10 experienced teams.
3 pitches on Saturday, 2 on Sunday. 
£90 a team.
More details nearer the time.


http://www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate


Dave Sealy

243 Swanwick Lane, Swanwick, Southampton, , SO31 7GT

Main Email: ultimate@shef.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mea98djs@shef.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01489 575809

____________________________________________________________


10 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - EDINBURGH BEGINNERS' TOURNAMENT

Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate]


HUGE indoor tournament with space for 32 teams of beginners (less than 3 months Ultimate experience) and their 'experienced' coaches.


Lindsay Cuthbertson

Flat 1F2, 6 Lauriston Gardens, Edinburgh, EH3 9HJ, 

Main Email: l.f.cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk

Home Phone: 0131 228 2359

Mobile: 07776 187819

____________________________________________________________


19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

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>There will be on-site food both Saturday and Sunday. =20
But will there be a TV?
=20
06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS  Location: Daventry - =
[Outdoor
Ultimate]

Sat Oct 06 2001 Germany v Finland 15:00 England v Greece 15:00=20

Is there anything we can do? A good chunk of the early rounds will be =
over
very quickly, so could the whole day be planned to be over by 3pm? Can =
we
start early? Is there a bar with a big TV by the pitches?

For the not inconsiderable number of players who are footie fans this =
is
probably quite an issue as these matches are now the deciders for =
England's
World Cup qualification....

Living in hope,
Clapham's Silver Bear

=20

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Stebbing [mailto:nancy.stebbing@tesco.net]
Sent: 04 September 2001 12:33
To: britdisc; chris.stokes@iolfree.ie; lukey89@hotmail.com
Subject: open nationals


Open Nationals costs have been confirmed, so you can start sending =
money!
=20
Cheques to Nancy Stebbing for =A3135 (which includes BUF tax).  Send =
them to
=20
10 Buckingham Road
Brackley
Northants  NN13  7HH
=20
Deadline is September 20, no exceptions.  Please include a contact name =
with
both email and snail mail addresses so we can contact you and send maps =
and
thingies.
=20
The tournament is open to the top 32 teams in the country, as =
determined by
the Ultim8 Tour results.  If you didn't play in the Tour and want to =
come
anyway, send a cheque now which we'll hold, and then allocate any =
spaces
left over to you.
=20
In case you missed them the first time, below are location and =
accomodation
details.  Maps and directions will follow as soon as we get a decent =
set.
=20
=20
=20

OPEN NATIONALS-  OCTOBER 6-7   DAVENTRY SPORTS GROUNDS, DAVENTRY
=20
The Open Nationals are confirmed at Daventry for the above dates.  =
Daventry
is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, and about 16 miles north of =
Banbury
(site of Tour 2).  More directions, maps, and web resources regarding
location will follow.  Please be advised- you will need some sort of =
private
transport.  As this is a last minute arrangement, the site is NOT near =
a
train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), and accomodation =
is
off-site.  Please accept my apologies- this is the best we (the BUF) =
can do
for now.
=20
The tournament is open to the top 32 teams initially.  (Chris Hughes is
handling the format, so please send any inquiries about it to him.)
However, in the event that some of those teams do not attend, the =
remaining
spots will be passed down the rankings until the tournament is filled.  =
It
is entirely possible (but maybe not likely) that teams who have not =
played
in the Tour at all could be offered a spot.  If you want to come- send =
a
cheque by the deadline and see what happens.  (Obviously, cheques will =
be
returned if space is not offered). =20
=20
At this time, it is expected that the BUF AGM will be held on Saturday
night.  Therefore, there is no official party planned.  However, the =
bar at
the hotel accomodation will be open to all players.  See below for =
details.
=20
ACCOMMODATION
=20
Camping is available for no cost at a local farm,  Meadows Farm.  The =
farm
is 2 miles from the pitches, but it is not a journey that should be
attempted on foot.  The camping will be BASIC.  This means port-a-loos, =
two
sinks in the garage (that DO have hot water) and that's it.  Camping is
available both Friday and Saturday nights.  If it's not raining, it's a
really pleasant site.  You ARE permitted to bring cooking supplies/
barbecues, whatever.  Meadows Farm is part of a local B&B association.  =
You
can check out the location and other info at =
www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk
<http://www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk>=20
=20
As well as Meadows Farm, there are other farm B&Bs nearby see the above =
site
for more info.  (As well as campers, Meadows Farm will take B&B =
bookings.)
FYI, Drayton Lodge (one of the B&Bs on the web site) is almost directly
across the street from the pitches.
=20
Staverton Park Conference centre is offering a special room rate for =
the
tournament.  It is located one mile from the pitches.  Rooms are =
available
for Friday and Saturday nights.  Rooms are =A350- single or double =
occupancy.
This rate includes full English breakfast, ensuite rooms, fully equiped
rooms (tea&coffee, hairdryer, ironing board, radio, TV, etc.) use of =
the
restaurant for dinner (at an additional cost) and use of the leisure =
club
(which has a swimming pool and sauna).  The centre also has a bar.  And =
for
those of you with more money than sense, Staverton has a golf course; =
tee
times are available.  Check out the facilities at
www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk <http://www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk>  =20
Rooms are on a first-come first serve basis.  Call 01327 302 000 to =
book,
and ask for the frisbee rate.  You'll need a credit card for a deposit.
=20
OTHER INFO
=20
There will be on-site food both Satruday and Sunday.  I am negotiating =
to
keep costs down.
=20
Entry deadline is September 20. =20
=20
Any questions?  Contact me on this email address or on 01280 701 715.
=20
=20
Nancy Stebbing
=20



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<DIV><SPAN class=935345312-04092001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>&gt;<FONT face=Arial size=2>There will be on-site food both Saturday and 
Sunday.&nbsp; </FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=935345312-04092001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><FONT 
face=Arial size=2></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=935345312-04092001><FONT 
color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>But will there be a TV?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS<SPAN 
class=935345312-04092001><FONT color=#000000 face="Times New Roman" 
size=2>&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN>Location: Daventry - [Outdoor Ultimate]</DIV>
<DIV>
<P>Sat Oct 06 2001 Germany v Finland 15:00<SPAN class=935345312-04092001><FONT 
color=#000000 face="Times New Roman" size=2> </FONT></SPAN>England v Greece 
15:00 </P>
<P>Is there anything we can do? A good chunk of the early rounds will be over 
very quickly, so could the whole day be planned to be over by 3pm? <SPAN 
class=935345312-04092001><FONT color=#000000 face="Times New Roman" size=2>Can 
we start early? </FONT></SPAN>Is there a bar with a big TV by the pitches?</P>
<P>For the not inconsiderable number of players who are footie fans this is 
probably quite an issue<SPAN class=935345312-04092001><FONT color=#000000 
face="Times New Roman" size=2> as these matches are now the deciders for 
England's World Cup qualification</FONT></SPAN>..<SPAN 
class=935345312-04092001><FONT color=#000000 face="Times New Roman" 
size=2>..</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P></FONT><SPAN class=935345312-04092001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Living in hope,<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=935345312-04092001><FONT 
color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Clapham's Silver Bear</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=935345312-04092001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
    <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader DIR = LTR><FONT face=Tahoma 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Nancy Stebbing 
    [mailto:nancy.stebbing@tesco.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 04 September 2001 
    12:33<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc; chris.stokes@iolfree.ie; 
    lukey89@hotmail.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> open nationals<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Open Nationals costs have been confirmed, so 
    you can start sending money!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheques to Nancy Stebbing for &pound;135 (which 
    includes BUF tax).&nbsp; Send them to</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>10 Buckingham Road</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brackley</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Northants&nbsp; NN13&nbsp; 7HH</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Deadline is September 20, no exceptions.&nbsp; 
    Please include a contact name with both email and snail mail addresses so we 
    can contact you and send maps and thingies.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The tournament is open to the top 32 teams in 
    the country, as determined by the Ultim8 Tour results.&nbsp; If you didn't 
    play in the Tour and want to come anyway, send a cheque now which we'll 
    hold, and then allocate any spaces left over to you.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In case you missed them the first time, below 
    are location and accomodation details.&nbsp; Maps and directions will follow 
    as soon as we get a decent set.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OPEN NATIONALS-&nbsp; OCTOBER 6-7&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    DAVENTRY SPORTS GROUNDS, DAVENTRY</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Open Nationals are confirmed at Daventry 
    for the above dates.&nbsp; Daventry is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, 
    and about 16 miles north of Banbury (site of Tour 2).&nbsp; More directions, 
    maps, and web resources regarding location will follow.&nbsp; Please be 
    advised- you will need some sort of private transport.&nbsp; As this is a 
    last minute arrangement, the site is NOT near a train station (closest are 
    Banbury and Northampton), and accomodation is off-site.&nbsp; Please accept 
    my apologies- this is the best we (the BUF) can do for now.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The tournament is open to the top 32 teams 
    initially.&nbsp; (Chris Hughes is handling the format, so please send any 
    inquiries about it to him.)&nbsp; However, in the event that some of those 
    teams do not attend, the remaining spots will be passed down the rankings 
    until the tournament is filled.&nbsp; It is entirely possible (but maybe not 
    likely) that teams who have not played in the Tour at all could be offered a 
    spot.&nbsp; If you want to come- send a cheque by the deadline and see what 
    happens.&nbsp; (Obviously, cheques will be returned if space is not 
    offered).&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At this time, it is expected that the BUF AGM 
    will be held on Saturday night.&nbsp; Therefore, there is no official party 
    planned.&nbsp; However, the bar at the hotel accomodation will be open to 
    all players.&nbsp; See below for details.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ACCOMMODATION</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Camping is available for no cost at a local 
    farm,&nbsp; Meadows Farm.&nbsp; The farm is 2 miles from the pitches, but it 
    is not a journey that should be attempted on foot.&nbsp; The camping will be 
    BASIC.&nbsp; This means port-a-loos, two sinks in the garage (that DO have 
    hot water) and that's it.&nbsp; Camping is available both Friday and 
    Saturday nights.&nbsp; If it's not raining, it's a really pleasant 
    site.&nbsp; You ARE permitted to bring cooking supplies/ barbecues, 
    whatever.&nbsp; Meadows Farm is part of a local B&amp;B association.&nbsp; 
    You can check out the location and other info at <FONT color=#000080><A 
    href="http://www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk">www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk</A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As well as Meadows Farm, there are other farm 
    B&amp;Bs nearby see the above site for more info.&nbsp; (As well as campers, 
    Meadows Farm will take B&amp;B bookings.)&nbsp; FYI, Drayton Lodge (one of 
    the B&amp;Bs on the web site) is almost directly across the street from the 
    pitches.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Staverton Park Conference centre is offering a 
    special room rate for the tournament.&nbsp; It is located one mile from the 
    pitches.&nbsp; Rooms are available for Friday and Saturday nights.&nbsp; 
    Rooms are &pound;50- single or double occupancy.&nbsp; This rate includes 
    full English breakfast, ensuite rooms, fully equiped rooms (tea&amp;coffee, 
    hairdryer, ironing board, radio, TV, etc.) use of the restaurant for dinner 
    (at an additional cost) and use of the leisure club (which has a swimming 
    pool and sauna).&nbsp; The centre also has a bar.&nbsp; And for those of you 
    with more money than sense, Staverton has a golf course; tee times are 
    available.&nbsp; Check out the facilities at <A 
    href="http://www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk">www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk</A>&nbsp; 
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rooms are on a first-come first serve 
    basis.&nbsp; Call 01327 302 000 to book, and ask for the frisbee rate.&nbsp; 
    You'll need a credit card for a deposit.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OTHER INFO</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There will be on-site food both Satruday and 
    Sunday.&nbsp; I am negotiating to keep costs down.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Entry deadline&nbsp;is September 20.&nbsp; 
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any questions?&nbsp; Contact me on this email 
    address or on 01280 701 715.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nancy Stebbing</FONT></DIV>
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Er, yeah, but this is the OPEN NATIONALS you're talking about. Which is a
higher priority for you? Playing hard ultimate, reaching the top of YOUR OWN
sport, of watching other people reach the top of theirs?

There may be a "not inconsiderable number" of footie fans, but there's also
a considerable number of Ultimate fans who would rather sweat it out for
their own team on the day, and not have the event they have worked all
summer to qualify for hijacked for 90minutes.
 
The football result will be the same whether you see the England match or
not. If you don't have the focus to play Ultimate that weekend maybe you
should stay at home. :-)
 
One man's view,
Andy
Chevron

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com]
Sent: 6 âåđåñíÿ 2001 đ. 9:39
To: 'Nancy Stebbing'; britdisc
Subject: RE: open nationals


>There will be on-site food both Saturday and Sunday.  
But will there be a TV?
 
06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS  Location: Daventry - [Outdoor
Ultimate]

Sat Oct 06 2001 Germany v Finland 15:00 England v Greece 15:00 

Is there anything we can do? A good chunk of the early rounds will be over
very quickly, so could the whole day be planned to be over by 3pm? Can we
start early? Is there a bar with a big TV by the pitches?

For the not inconsiderable number of players who are footie fans this is
probably quite an issue as these matches are now the deciders for England's
World Cup qualification....

Living in hope,
Clapham's Silver Bear

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Stebbing [mailto:nancy.stebbing@tesco.net]
Sent: 04 September 2001 12:33
To: britdisc; chris.stokes@iolfree.ie; lukey89@hotmail.com
Subject: open nationals


Open Nationals costs have been confirmed, so you can start sending money!
 
Cheques to Nancy Stebbing for £135 (which includes BUF tax).  Send them to
 
10 Buckingham Road
Brackley
Northants  NN13  7HH
 
Deadline is September 20, no exceptions.  Please include a contact name with
both email and snail mail addresses so we can contact you and send maps and
thingies.
 
The tournament is open to the top 32 teams in the country, as determined by
the Ultim8 Tour results.  If you didn't play in the Tour and want to come
anyway, send a cheque now which we'll hold, and then allocate any spaces
left over to you.
 
In case you missed them the first time, below are location and accomodation
details.  Maps and directions will follow as soon as we get a decent set.
 
 
 

OPEN NATIONALS-  OCTOBER 6-7   DAVENTRY SPORTS GROUNDS, DAVENTRY
 
The Open Nationals are confirmed at Daventry for the above dates.  Daventry
is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, and about 16 miles north of Banbury
(site of Tour 2).  More directions, maps, and web resources regarding
location will follow.  Please be advised- you will need some sort of private
transport.  As this is a last minute arrangement, the site is NOT near a
train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), and accomodation is
off-site.  Please accept my apologies- this is the best we (the BUF) can do
for now.
 
The tournament is open to the top 32 teams initially.  (Chris Hughes is
handling the format, so please send any inquiries about it to him.)
However, in the event that some of those teams do not attend, the remaining
spots will be passed down the rankings until the tournament is filled.  It
is entirely possible (but maybe not likely) that teams who have not played
in the Tour at all could be offered a spot.  If you want to come- send a
cheque by the deadline and see what happens.  (Obviously, cheques will be
returned if space is not offered).  
 
At this time, it is expected that the BUF AGM will be held on Saturday
night.  Therefore, there is no official party planned.  However, the bar at
the hotel accomodation will be open to all players.  See below for details.
 
ACCOMMODATION
 
Camping is available for no cost at a local farm,  Meadows Farm.  The farm
is 2 miles from the pitches, but it is not a journey that should be
attempted on foot.  The camping will be BASIC.  This means port-a-loos, two
sinks in the garage (that DO have hot water) and that's it.  Camping is
available both Friday and Saturday nights.  If it's not raining, it's a
really pleasant site.  You ARE permitted to bring cooking supplies/
barbecues, whatever.  Meadows Farm is part of a local B&B association.  You
can check out the location and other info at www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk
<http://www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk> 
 
As well as Meadows Farm, there are other farm B&Bs nearby see the above site
for more info.  (As well as campers, Meadows Farm will take B&B bookings.)
FYI, Drayton Lodge (one of the B&Bs on the web site) is almost directly
across the street from the pitches.
 
Staverton Park Conference centre is offering a special room rate for the
tournament.  It is located one mile from the pitches.  Rooms are available
for Friday and Saturday nights.  Rooms are £50- single or double occupancy.
This rate includes full English breakfast, ensuite rooms, fully equiped
rooms (tea&coffee, hairdryer, ironing board, radio, TV, etc.) use of the
restaurant for dinner (at an additional cost) and use of the leisure club
(which has a swimming pool and sauna).  The centre also has a bar.  And for
those of you with more money than sense, Staverton has a golf course; tee
times are available.  Check out the facilities at
www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk <http://www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk>   
Rooms are on a first-come first serve basis.  Call 01327 302 000 to book,
and ask for the frisbee rate.  You'll need a credit card for a deposit.
 
OTHER INFO
 
There will be on-site food both Satruday and Sunday.  I am negotiating to
keep costs down.
 
Entry deadline is September 20.  
 
Any questions?  Contact me on this email address or on 01280 701 715.
 
 
Nancy Stebbing
 


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Re Glastonbury. 
Firstly this is a final team listing. 
Teamshark / SlimFast / Supanoodle / DiscoJanitors / STAN / Smash n Grab /
NightFever / BAF / Strange Blue / SkuMy / Oddjob / Phat'eds / Red  / Discult
/ Mud Culture / Playthings / Superfly / Mootunes / Chuft / Sneeekys /
Mwncisee / Jammie Bodgers / Pasty Smashers / PU.

Directions From The North / London / Anywhere else.(except Exeter but you
should know) 
Get onto M5 south Get off at Jct 23   --  Take A39 to Shepton  --   Go
through Street towards Glastonbury  --  At r/about when you turn right to
Glastonbury the sports ground is on the left (1/4 mile up rd)  --   If you
go past Safeway you've gone too far. 
Venue - Tour Leisure Centre. Camping available all w/end. 

Games/Rules
Captains meeting Sat 8.45am - I recommend you be there.  First game will be
9am.
Games are 50minutes long and to 13 points with NO halftime.  When the hooter
sounds finish the point.  If the scores are within two points of each other
you play a 2pt cap - if one team is 3 or more up then the game is over.  If
a team reaches 13pts at any point the game is over.  A point a minute can be
claimed for any team that is late for their game.  No time extensions will
be given.  Each team is entitled to 1 timeout per game, 2 in the semifinal
and final.
Semi Final and Final to 15 pts. - same rules apply.

Facilities
Food, Drink available all w/end. The club has organised a deal with Safeway
to give frisbee players preferential rates so see me B4 you buy.  Any probs
try to work them out yourself but if you're really stuck then let me know.
Camping is available on site all w/end with hot showers in the clubhouse.
Finally we've been asked to put on a game for the local on Saturday evening
- so if you would like to play in it then let us know.  It will be a co-ed
games.  If no one responds I will select the teams.
Cheers.
Arun	07712 583578
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Is there a Mr L Hartley out there who banks with Natwest in Coventry? If so,
please email me right away. You forgot to sign your cheque for the Cambridge
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posted to the rec.sport.disc newsgroup today.....

Ben
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D'Haas" <UFDA@mn.rr.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc
Sent: 06 September 2001 03:09
Subject: The UFDA, Me, and The UFDA College National Tourney


> Hi Folks,
> 
> Dan Webster here, President of the Ultimate Flying Disc Association,
> Inc.
> 
> Many people have been barraging me with e-mails regarding the
> specifics of the expected Nationally Televised, and Internationally
> Webcasted tournament coming up next June (2002).  This is great to
> read.  It actually is also what the network televising the event, and
> sponsors want to read--whether favorable or not.
> 
> First, The UFDA was created as a company to assist in the promoting
> and developing of our sport of Ultimate.
> Why The UFDA was created had to due with three years of extensive
> research regarding Ultimate's relationship(s) with the media and
> prospective advertising sponsors.
> What was overwhelmingly concluded was that for the sport of Ultimate
> to elevate itself into the mainstream sports mindset of Americans and
> marketplace had to do with the sport making itself an accessable
> commodity, not only to the players who like playing the sport, but
> those who can't play the sport--and could become tremendous fans, as
> well as to those who may be gifted athletes in the sport but have
> never been presented with how the sport can be worthy of their time.
> 
> It's hard for me to ever doubt the significance of the UPA.  What the
> UPA has meant for Ultimate has consisted of significant positives for
> it's players.  I've always equated it (agree or disagree) with FUBU,
> which stands for "For Us, By Us."
> However, it's been significantly apparent the growing frustration
> between some very gifted and passionate players and the fact that this
> sport has very little recognition on the main sports' stage to flaunt
> what greatness these men and women possess.
> You may argue "That's because Ultimate was meant to be an alternative
> to regular sports.  Look at what other sports figures are portraying
> to our youth."
> It's tough to argue with that.  But such an argument has NEVER meant
> that Ultimate was supposed to be unmarketable!
> You may argue, "What about the Japanese television coverage of the
> World Games in Japan, or the 5,000 spectators that filled the UPA
> College Nationals this year?  Aren't those success stories in
> themselves?"
> My answer is "Yes."
> However, the fact is that Ultimate in it's current structure is not an
> accessable commodity to Americans, because it has not been an
> accessable commodity to the media--meaning it has not been an
> accessable commodity to sponsors. Because these sponsors and media are
> either unaware or turned-off to Ultimate, many of our youth continue
> to be tuned-out as to what Ultimate can offer them, and offer the UPA
> in terms of growing memberships.
> I'm going to Tune-Up this weekend, in Chicago.  I've read how there is
> someone that's coming out from some suburban newspaper, or something,
> that may do a write-up of the tournament.  I'm sorry, but Tune-Up to
> me resembles something of national significance, if not at least a
> major mention on Chicago's nightly news.
> But why will it probably not make it on the news?
> 1) The Bears season opener 
> 2) The Cubs chase for a division pennant as they face Atlanta.
> 3) Any possible White Sox coverage
> 4) Any Nascar or other auto racing
> 5) The U. S. Tennis Open in New York
> 6) Some Golf tournament coverage--especially if Tiger is playing.
> 7) Possible college football highlights
> 8) Possible mentions regarding the Chicago Fire MLS soccer team, or
> to-do's with the Bulls, or Black Hawks.
> 9) Or maybe some short feature how some football player at Penn State
> overcame the odds and is walking again after a crushed C-5 vertibrae
> injury (actually, I like this one).
> The reason why Ultimate never gets significant mentions on mainstream
> media is because the sport has not been an accessable commodity for
> the media representatives to believe their audience will want to see.
> ***I've worked 7 years as a sports anchor, play-by-play announcer, and
> reporter for television and radio.  I've been fortunate to (I guess)
> know what makes a sport capable of breaking the ice of public
> notariety verses one that for decades continually tries to chip away
> at the ice with a soft plastic spoon.
> 
> This is why The UFDA was formed.....to allow significant sources in
> the media to become aware and learn how special Ultimate is.
> 
> What does this mean for The UFDA's version of Ultimate?
> Yes, it does mean some changes.  Some (I perceive as) minor rules
> changes--all of which blend more marketable tension in the action of
> the game while seeking to make the sport safer to its players.
> I can't get into the specifics on these changes until after the
> network has signed the committment portion of the contract.  I have
> been allowed the authority to state an "agreement of intent" is
> present.  This is why I'm able to state the event as Nationally
> Televised and Internationally Wecasted.
> However, because of this, I am contractually obligated not to mention
> who the network is until that portion has been signed.  The reason
> that the committment portion has not been signed is because part of
> the stipulation in that portion of the contract states there must be a
> "sustained and irrevovable financial interest to perform" in the
> tournament.
> Before I can even ask if that portion is present, I have to present to
> you that this large tournament will be televised and webcasted.  While
> I run a significant risk of perceived "baiting", the legal reality is
> that if these 160 team slots are filled to the $4,000 per team entry
> fee (with all what that offers), the network and advertisers will
> understand the sincerity and passion of it's players.  I was told by
> the network it was me taking the risk, but I knew I also would risk
> not even having this opportunity to put on this tournament--and
> getting the opportunity to speak with significant network decision
> makers--without risking my own neck (and $4,000 to $6,000).
> The reason why there has been no "baiting" is because I have not
> accepted and kept for personal use any money from any team.
> At this time, I am only trying to learn who and how many teams are
> interested in this world's first mamouth endeavor.
> 
> By November 1st, 2001, I have to show the network that at least 96
> men's/open teams and 64 women's Collegiate teams have expressed in
> writing an interest in playing in this tournament.  If that occurs,
> the network could do some preliminary planning as to selling airtime
> for a prospective "Special Television Event".
> By January 1st, 2001 (possibly sooner), I have to show $640,000 to the
> network, and other possible investors(based on all 160 teams wanting
> hotel rooms).  There is a hotel chain that is a marquee sponsor of the
> television event--provided we have the television event.
> This money will then sit in a money market fund earning interest while
> the actual events leading to the tournament, and "Special Television
> Event", are physically being produced.
> You may ask, "Hey! This is a lot of money being handed to this UFDA
> prospect project of yours Dan.  How do we know you aren't just going
> to take the money and run?"
> The answer is simple:  The money is not mine, and never will be mine
> to begin with.  Thus, I will never be able to dip into this money/fund
> for any personal reason--EVER!  This money is yours, with the intent
> on having your team come to the Twin Cities next June to play in this
> breathtaking event.
> So how do I get paid?
> Quite honestly, I really don't think I will be paid anything.  I'm not
> asking for any cut for this or that, like I've heard some organizers
> do at other tournaments.  I earn no salary as President of The UFDA. 
> Every dollar that I've had to spend to meet with people--on their
> time, and pay for travel and producing a show called The UFDA
> Today--has come from my own prsonal expense. Taking financial cuts
> from your intent money is NOT why The UFDA was set up.
> 
> ***The reason why $4,000 has been asked as an entry fee for each team?
> Yes, I agree that's quite much to ask.  However, it is an amount
> that's not too far out of line with what a person would pay for 7
> nights hotel, dinners, food, water, fields, medical assurance care,
> and other emenities at any other tournament.  Plus it assures
> advertising costs are covered, production costs are covered, thus
> solidifying this "Special Television (and Webcast) Event".
> Ask most any other person having to play at World's, and maybe even
> Nationals, or even Tune-Up, how much it costs personally to play, and
> on a relative scale the 2002 UFDA Collegiate National Tournament is
> not too out of line.
> ###And you have my assurance that you will not need to pay anything
> more as an entry fee, and any excess money above costs will be
> proportionately returned to the teams.  If and when there's extra
> money provided from (I don't know) concessions (there are no ticket
> sales), or advertising dollars, or something else along those lines,
> that money will become part of any excess pot of money, available to
> be returned to the teams.
> 
> Folks, I've basically spelled out what I can at this time.  Please
> believe me, I have absolutely no motive of deceit or intent for
> wanting to swindle anyone out of anything.  And everyone else will
> have priority to all the money and glories associated with this
> undertaking before I ever will (my now ex-fiancee--as of last week was
> never fond of this).
> But as to you, as I have painstakingly tried to convey to her (she not
> an Ultimate Player), it's time for Ultimate to be showcased on a
> National Television stage, and International Webcast stage.
> 
> If you want it, I've done--and will continue to do--much of the grunt
> work to make this a reality.  I simply ask for this chance.  I really
> worry that it will never be able to happen again, if it doesn't occur
> June 2002.
> 
> There's a lot of volunteers waiting to make your visit to the Twin
> Cities an extremely favorable and memorable one.  There's some kid out
> there I believe waiting for an Ultimate hero to look up to as an
> athlete.
> 
> I was once that kid.
> 
> Dan Webster, The UFDA.

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I have just had 5 people drop out of my team today (Thursday) for 
glastonbury this w/e and we are now Ironman, So if you would like a game 
with the mighty OddJob this weekend, you are more than welcome, reply to 
this mail or just turn up on the day.

L8RS
Silk
OddJob



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hi,
anyone going from manchester area to galstonbury? if
you have a space in your car, or need a lift (i could
drive there), then get in touch. i just want to save
petrol money whichever way!!

cheers,
Pete
LLLeeds, etc.

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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Rather short notice, I know, but has anyone got space in their car for two people&nbsp;going to the Glastonbury tournament? Will be in the London on Friday afternoon. </DIV>
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<DIV>Any offers gratefully received by email or on 07752 612244.</DIV>
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Is there a team at imperial college, and if so when do you guys practice?</DIV>
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From: "Andy Cox" <andycox23@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Lift offered to Glastonbury
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 22:27:18 
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Rich, Rebecca and anyone else interested in a lift (maybe not Pete, 
Manchester's a bit far!)

I'll be leaving the Reading area about 7ish for Glastonbury (Friday night) 
if you can make it out that far. I can collect from Reading station, but if 
you can get yourselves to Pangbourne (small station 10 mins ride from 
Reading - trains every half an hour) it'd save me a lot of time.

I can't have my phone on whilst at work, so text is probably the best way to 
contact me as I'll sneakily leave it on silent. If you're interested my 
number is 07876 494173.

Apologies to those who don't care (why have you read this far?!)

Angie (ex-Skunks)

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From: "yale zhang" <zyale11@hotmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 00:15:42 +0100
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Hi everyone,

sorry for leaving this to the last minute and filling your inbox with more 
junk, but could anyone be kind enough to offer me a lift on friday?  any 
departing point within reach of public tranport in london would be fine.  i 
will of course share the patrol money (and any otherthings, including 
conspiring against my own team if required... for them not giving me a lift)

if this is possible, could u give me a call at 07786 014958 before 6.00 pm 
on friday please

thanks guys

Yale (strange blue)

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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:27:22 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Starfish=20DUF?= <starfish_duf@yahoo.co.uk>
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Calling all Brummie based Ultimate players...I'm back
in the country and I'm looking for some Ultimate
practices/chuck-abouts to tag along to.

I'm over in Sutton Coldfield but can easily make it to
the otherside of town on the train.

Yeah, hey Peter Elliot where are you practicing?
 ...assuming that you are.

Hopefully there is some ultimate to played in this
concrete plagued city...could always try to arrange
something in Sutton Park if anyone is interested?

Regards,

Matt aka Starfish
(DUF Pres.)
  

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I will be leaving Hampstead, North London at 0630h Sat to go up to Glasto

don't want to go too far out of my way (Finchley Rd - North Circ etc) but please give me a call if you want a ride

ttfn John Purdie
07860 425 698

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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:34:50 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?jonathan=20lowrey?= <lowleeds@yahoo.com>
Subject: Boom Boom, Low needs a Room (nr Brighton)
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Does anyone now of rooms/1 bed flats going in that
newest of Cities Brighton?

I'm about to start a Uni course there on 1st oct and 
still can't find a room/studio

For those of you who don't know me i'm 26 non-smoking,
omnivorous and have been known to throw a disc around
on a regular basis.

Prices am looking for approx 60-65 pw but could go to
75-80. Anything considered especially in Frisbee
biased household.

Apologies to those Britdisc Subscribers who live
nowhere near the South Coast El Dorado


Low - Albatross / Soon to be Mohawk

07787 116 546 

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Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 10:59:59 +0100
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Hello Britdisc,

Due to the recent outbreak of foot and mouth in Northumberland, the venue 
for the next BDGA Tour event has had to be changed.

Originally, the 8th tour event of the year was scheduled to happen at 
Burnlaw in Northumberland on 22/23 September. Thankfully, the Tour will 
continue at the UK's oldest disc golf course at Essex University in Colchester.

The weekend remains the same 22/23 September.

All BDGA Tour events are two-day competitions and everyone is welcome.
If you are interested to play but can't commit to the two days, in most 
situations you can come along and play one-day only (two rounds of golf).
Also, you don't need to be a member of the BDGA to take part.
If you do intend to play it is a good idea to contact the Tournament 
Director before hand.

Directions to Essex University can be found by browsing the UK Disc Golf 
Course Directory at www.obmegazine.com/courses.asp

There are also photos from the Essex course at 
http://discgolfphotos.com/gallerypages/england/essex97_2000/index.htm

Essex Schedule:-
Saturday 22 Sept
9.45am - players meeting at sports centre
10.30am - first round 18 holes
After lunch - 18 hole second round

Sunday 23 Sept
9.30am - Players meeting at sports centre, followed by the third round of 
18 holes
After lunch - fourth/final round

There will be the normal Closest To The Pin (CTP) and Longest Drive 
competitions.

Tournament Entry Fee
£7.50 per player/ £6.50 BDGA members

Accommodation
There is a caravan park nearby that is popular. Andy Lucey has more details 
mailto:andylucey@yahoo.com

Charlie Mead is Tournament Director so contact him if you have further 
enquiries.
mob - 07802 321710
charles.mead@easynet.co.uk

Hope to see you there and have a good weekend.

Richard Sampson
BDGA Communications


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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:55:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nicole Roberts <maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk>
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Errr, as I have been stranded from ultimate for three
months, I was wondering if any women's teams were
looking for a pick up for women's nationals. Ive been
off britdisc for a  while so I don't know if any mails
have been sent...

If anyone wants a pick up who hasn't even thrown for
three months on account of cyprus not having heard of
ultimate, just mail me.

cheers

nicole
mohawks

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From: Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
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Subject: RE: open nationals
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At the least all I was asking was whether there was a TV near the pitches
and/or any flexibility with the schedule. Nancy? Anyone? Please say there's
a stunning bar, with draft Stella, overlooking the pitches, with a 10' by 8'
projector screen showing the game. Or some skaggy midlands pub half a mile
away with one 12" TV and all the locals already there. Anything will do. I
was bringing it up on behalf of other players as much as anything since
we're possibly going to be playing Clapham1 vs Clapham2 on Saturday
afternoon thanks to the rigged seedings we accepted as punishment for
dropping a team at Leeds..... 

Please Nancy, save us - England will definitely never win without our
support,
Roger

!!!!
If you have no sense of humour or don't care about football please DO NOT
READ ANY FURTHER unless you're Andy Cotgreave. Please keep any responses
strictly intra-combatant and do not send them to Britdisc.
!!!!
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SORRY, EXCEPT RV, WHO SAID - "HURT HIM M8, WE MUST SEE THE GAME"). NOR
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YOU'RE EXACTLY THE KIND OF INTOLERANT SOD ALL THE BARBED COMMENTS ARE AIMED
AT - IN WHICH CASE, err, EAT MY SHORTS! 
!!!!
felixsh from Brighton - you're not still reading are you? Or trying to. How
do my shorts taste?
!!!!

>Er, yeah, but this is the OPEN NATIONALS you're talking about.
Er, yeah Mr Sarcastic - open nationals FRISBEE. In case you hadn't noticed a
significantly larger number of people get rather more excited about that
other bizarre sport just the odd few people play with a round ball. YOU may
not care, but I was raising it on behalf of those of us for whom, frankly,
it's a religion. Mr Cotgreave meet Mr Perspective: <Mr Cotgreave>Hello Mr
Perspective I'm an ultimate frisbee player. <Mr Perspective, rolling about
on the floor laughing>What the ***k is that then?

>The football result will be the same whether you see the England match or
not.
Any football fan will tell you categorically that that is not true. It can't
be. Don't say that. Please. We know it's not true anyway, Schrodinger would
assert that the result will not be the same: England will in fact have won,
lost and drawn until we know the result - and I don't want England to lose
to a country that's lost it's marbles thanks, not even quantum physically.

And since the tone of your response was needlessly and disproportionately,
er, inconsiderate and condescending (Kettle Cotgreave meet Pot Thomson):
>If you don't have the focus to play Ultimate that weekend maybe you should
stay at home. :-)
Sorry, I thought you said I won't have TO focus to play Ultimate......will
you be marking me if we play then? ;-)

right - pub time. now.




-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Cotgreave [mailto:Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk]
Sent: 06 September 2001 09:53
To: 'Roger Thomson'; Britdisc (E-mail)
Subject: RE: open nationals


Er, yeah, but this is the OPEN NATIONALS you're talking about. Which is a
higher priority for you? Playing hard ultimate, reaching the top of YOUR OWN
sport, of watching other people reach the top of theirs?

There may be a "not inconsiderable number" of footie fans, but there's also
a considerable number of Ultimate fans who would rather sweat it out for
their own team on the day, and not have the event they have worked all
summer to qualify for hijacked for 90minutes.
 
The football result will be the same whether you see the England match or
not. If you don't have the focus to play Ultimate that weekend maybe you
should stay at home. :-)
 
One man's view,
Andy
Chevron

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com]
Sent: 6 âåđåñíÿ 2001 đ. 9:39
To: 'Nancy Stebbing'; britdisc
Subject: RE: open nationals


>There will be on-site food both Saturday and Sunday.  
But will there be a TV?
 
06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS  Location: Daventry - [Outdoor
Ultimate]

Sat Oct 06 2001 Germany v Finland 15:00 England v Greece 15:00 

Is there anything we can do? A good chunk of the early rounds will be over
very quickly, so could the whole day be planned to be over by 3pm? Can we
start early? Is there a bar with a big TV by the pitches?

For the not inconsiderable number of players who are footie fans this is
probably quite an issue as these matches are now the deciders for England's
World Cup qualification....

Living in hope,
Clapham's Silver Bear

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Stebbing [mailto:nancy.stebbing@tesco.net]
Sent: 04 September 2001 12:33
To: britdisc; chris.stokes@iolfree.ie; lukey89@hotmail.com
Subject: open nationals


Open Nationals costs have been confirmed, so you can start sending money!
 
Cheques to Nancy Stebbing for £135 (which includes BUF tax).  Send them to
 
10 Buckingham Road
Brackley
Northants  NN13  7HH
 
Deadline is September 20, no exceptions.  Please include a contact name with
both email and snail mail addresses so we can contact you and send maps and
thingies.
 
The tournament is open to the top 32 teams in the country, as determined by
the Ultim8 Tour results.  If you didn't play in the Tour and want to come
anyway, send a cheque now which we'll hold, and then allocate any spaces
left over to you.
 
In case you missed them the first time, below are location and accomodation
details.  Maps and directions will follow as soon as we get a decent set.
 
 
 

OPEN NATIONALS-  OCTOBER 6-7   DAVENTRY SPORTS GROUNDS, DAVENTRY
 
The Open Nationals are confirmed at Daventry for the above dates.  Daventry
is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, and about 16 miles north of Banbury
(site of Tour 2).  More directions, maps, and web resources regarding
location will follow.  Please be advised- you will need some sort of private
transport.  As this is a last minute arrangement, the site is NOT near a
train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), and accomodation is
off-site.  Please accept my apologies- this is the best we (the BUF) can do
for now.
 
The tournament is open to the top 32 teams initially.  (Chris Hughes is
handling the format, so please send any inquiries about it to him.)
However, in the event that some of those teams do not attend, the remaining
spots will be passed down the rankings until the tournament is filled.  It
is entirely possible (but maybe not likely) that teams who have not played
in the Tour at all could be offered a spot.  If you want to come- send a
cheque by the deadline and see what happens.  (Obviously, cheques will be
returned if space is not offered).  
 
At this time, it is expected that the BUF AGM will be held on Saturday
night.  Therefore, there is no official party planned.  However, the bar at
the hotel accomodation will be open to all players.  See below for details.
 
ACCOMMODATION
 
Camping is available for no cost at a local farm,  Meadows Farm.  The farm
is 2 miles from the pitches, but it is not a journey that should be
attempted on foot.  The camping will be BASIC.  This means port-a-loos, two
sinks in the garage (that DO have hot water) and that's it.  Camping is
available both Friday and Saturday nights.  If it's not raining, it's a
really pleasant site.  You ARE permitted to bring cooking supplies/
barbecues, whatever.  Meadows Farm is part of a local B&B association.  You
can check out the location and other info at www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk
<http://www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk> 
 
As well as Meadows Farm, there are other farm B&Bs nearby see the above site
for more info.  (As well as campers, Meadows Farm will take B&B bookings.)
FYI, Drayton Lodge (one of the B&Bs on the web site) is almost directly
across the street from the pitches.
 
Staverton Park Conference centre is offering a special room rate for the
tournament.  It is located one mile from the pitches.  Rooms are available
for Friday and Saturday nights.  Rooms are £50- single or double occupancy.
This rate includes full English breakfast, ensuite rooms, fully equiped
rooms (tea&coffee, hairdryer, ironing board, radio, TV, etc.) use of the
restaurant for dinner (at an additional cost) and use of the leisure club
(which has a swimming pool and sauna).  The centre also has a bar.  And for
those of you with more money than sense, Staverton has a golf course; tee
times are available.  Check out the facilities at
www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk <http://www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk>   
Rooms are on a first-come first serve basis.  Call 01327 302 000 to book,
and ask for the frisbee rate.  You'll need a credit card for a deposit.
 
OTHER INFO
 
There will be on-site food both Satruday and Sunday.  I am negotiating to
keep costs down.
 
Entry deadline is September 20.  
 
Any questions?  Contact me on this email address or on 01280 701 715.
 
 
Nancy Stebbing
 


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>  At the least all I was asking was whether there was a TV near the pitches
>  and/or any flexibility with the schedule.

I know I'm only a girl, and an an American at that (so I couldn't give a
cr@p about what you people call footlball...)  BUT, I did realize this was
going to be an issue, and I'm working on it.  I was hoping it was going to
be an evening game.....

There is, unfortunately, no bar with a big screen TV overlooking the
pitches- but there is a large lounge/entry lobby to the showers with power,
so I'm working on a TV for the site.  (Please say the game is on terrestrial
TV!!!!).  As for a nearby bar- there are a number of pubs in Daventry, and
the hotel bar is only a mile away.  I'll be sure there's a TV there.

As for schedule concessions- sorry, no can do if the tournament is full.
With only 8 pitches, it's gonna take all of both days to get through all the
games- even with the first round 'blow-out' games shortened.  (Don't worry
if you'll be in a tight first-rounder, we're giving you more time.)  But if
there is any way I can accommodate a little break, I will.

Hope that gives you a little hope,
nancy


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Hey- you Ultim8 people-

I can't find the final standings on points going into Nationals.  I'll =
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teams want in.

Please- can one of you give me aclue or something???

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Good to have you back Roger.
I miss the good ol' Britdisc days of piss take and abuse (Colin are you out
there?)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, will somebody respond to Roger with a well thought
out, sensible, grown up arguement. I need a laugh on Monday mornings.
DT

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 07 September 2001 20:12
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Subject: RE: open nationals


At the least all I was asking was whether there was a TV near the pitches
and/or any flexibility with the schedule. Nancy? Anyone? Please say there's
a stunning bar, with draft Stella, overlooking the pitches, with a 10' by 8'
projector screen showing the game. Or some skaggy midlands pub half a mile
away with one 12" TV and all the locals already there. Anything will do. I
was bringing it up on behalf of other players as much as anything since
we're possibly going to be playing Clapham1 vs Clapham2 on Saturday
afternoon thanks to the rigged seedings we accepted as punishment for
dropping a team at Leeds..... 

Please Nancy, save us - England will definitely never win without our
support,
Roger

!!!!
If you have no sense of humour or don't care about football please DO NOT
READ ANY FURTHER unless you're Andy Cotgreave. Please keep any responses
strictly intra-combatant and do not send them to Britdisc.
!!!!
DISCLAIMER: ON NO ACCOUNT SHOULD THE VIEWS IN THIS MAIL BE TAKEN AS
REPRESENTATIVE OF CLAPHAM ULTIMATE TEAM, IT'S PLAYERS OR MANAGEMENT (OH
SORRY, EXCEPT RV, WHO SAID - "HURT HIM M8, WE MUST SEE THE GAME"). NOR
SHOULD THEY BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. UNLESS OF COURSE
YOU'RE EXACTLY THE KIND OF INTOLERANT SOD ALL THE BARBED COMMENTS ARE AIMED
AT - IN WHICH CASE, err, EAT MY SHORTS! 
!!!!
felixsh from Brighton - you're not still reading are you? Or trying to. How
do my shorts taste?
!!!!

>Er, yeah, but this is the OPEN NATIONALS you're talking about.
Er, yeah Mr Sarcastic - open nationals FRISBEE. In case you hadn't noticed a
significantly larger number of people get rather more excited about that
other bizarre sport just the odd few people play with a round ball. YOU may
not care, but I was raising it on behalf of those of us for whom, frankly,
it's a religion. Mr Cotgreave meet Mr Perspective: <Mr Cotgreave>Hello Mr
Perspective I'm an ultimate frisbee player. <Mr Perspective, rolling about
on the floor laughing>What the ***k is that then?

>The football result will be the same whether you see the England match or
not.
Any football fan will tell you categorically that that is not true. It can't
be. Don't say that. Please. We know it's not true anyway, Schrodinger would
assert that the result will not be the same: England will in fact have won,
lost and drawn until we know the result - and I don't want England to lose
to a country that's lost it's marbles thanks, not even quantum physically.

And since the tone of your response was needlessly and disproportionately,
er, inconsiderate and condescending (Kettle Cotgreave meet Pot Thomson):
>If you don't have the focus to play Ultimate that weekend maybe you should
stay at home. :-)
Sorry, I thought you said I won't have TO focus to play Ultimate......will
you be marking me if we play then? ;-)

right - pub time. now.




-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Cotgreave [mailto:Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk]
Sent: 06 September 2001 09:53
To: 'Roger Thomson'; Britdisc (E-mail)
Subject: RE: open nationals


Er, yeah, but this is the OPEN NATIONALS you're talking about. Which is a
higher priority for you? Playing hard ultimate, reaching the top of YOUR OWN
sport, of watching other people reach the top of theirs?

There may be a "not inconsiderable number" of footie fans, but there's also
a considerable number of Ultimate fans who would rather sweat it out for
their own team on the day, and not have the event they have worked all
summer to qualify for hijacked for 90minutes.
 
The football result will be the same whether you see the England match or
not. If you don't have the focus to play Ultimate that weekend maybe you
should stay at home. :-)
 
One man's view,
Andy
Chevron

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com]
Sent: 6 âåđåñíÿ 2001 đ. 9:39
To: 'Nancy Stebbing'; britdisc
Subject: RE: open nationals


>There will be on-site food both Saturday and Sunday.  
But will there be a TV?
 
06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF OPEN NATIONALS  Location: Daventry - [Outdoor
Ultimate]

Sat Oct 06 2001 Germany v Finland 15:00 England v Greece 15:00 

Is there anything we can do? A good chunk of the early rounds will be over
very quickly, so could the whole day be planned to be over by 3pm? Can we
start early? Is there a bar with a big TV by the pitches?

For the not inconsiderable number of players who are footie fans this is
probably quite an issue as these matches are now the deciders for England's
World Cup qualification....

Living in hope,
Clapham's Silver Bear

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Stebbing [mailto:nancy.stebbing@tesco.net]
Sent: 04 September 2001 12:33
To: britdisc; chris.stokes@iolfree.ie; lukey89@hotmail.com
Subject: open nationals


Open Nationals costs have been confirmed, so you can start sending money!
 
Cheques to Nancy Stebbing for £135 (which includes BUF tax).  Send them to
 
10 Buckingham Road
Brackley
Northants  NN13  7HH
 
Deadline is September 20, no exceptions.  Please include a contact name with
both email and snail mail addresses so we can contact you and send maps and
thingies.
 
The tournament is open to the top 32 teams in the country, as determined by
the Ultim8 Tour results.  If you didn't play in the Tour and want to come
anyway, send a cheque now which we'll hold, and then allocate any spaces
left over to you.
 
In case you missed them the first time, below are location and accomodation
details.  Maps and directions will follow as soon as we get a decent set.
 
 
 

OPEN NATIONALS-  OCTOBER 6-7   DAVENTRY SPORTS GROUNDS, DAVENTRY
 
The Open Nationals are confirmed at Daventry for the above dates.  Daventry
is between Junctions 16-17 of the M1, and about 16 miles north of Banbury
(site of Tour 2).  More directions, maps, and web resources regarding
location will follow.  Please be advised- you will need some sort of private
transport.  As this is a last minute arrangement, the site is NOT near a
train station (closest are Banbury and Northampton), and accomodation is
off-site.  Please accept my apologies- this is the best we (the BUF) can do
for now.
 
The tournament is open to the top 32 teams initially.  (Chris Hughes is
handling the format, so please send any inquiries about it to him.)
However, in the event that some of those teams do not attend, the remaining
spots will be passed down the rankings until the tournament is filled.  It
is entirely possible (but maybe not likely) that teams who have not played
in the Tour at all could be offered a spot.  If you want to come- send a
cheque by the deadline and see what happens.  (Obviously, cheques will be
returned if space is not offered).  
 
At this time, it is expected that the BUF AGM will be held on Saturday
night.  Therefore, there is no official party planned.  However, the bar at
the hotel accomodation will be open to all players.  See below for details.
 
ACCOMMODATION
 
Camping is available for no cost at a local farm,  Meadows Farm.  The farm
is 2 miles from the pitches, but it is not a journey that should be
attempted on foot.  The camping will be BASIC.  This means port-a-loos, two
sinks in the garage (that DO have hot water) and that's it.  Camping is
available both Friday and Saturday nights.  If it's not raining, it's a
really pleasant site.  You ARE permitted to bring cooking supplies/
barbecues, whatever.  Meadows Farm is part of a local B&B association.  You
can check out the location and other info at www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk
<http://www.northantsfarmholidays.co.uk> 
 
As well as Meadows Farm, there are other farm B&Bs nearby see the above site
for more info.  (As well as campers, Meadows Farm will take B&B bookings.)
FYI, Drayton Lodge (one of the B&Bs on the web site) is almost directly
across the street from the pitches.
 
Staverton Park Conference centre is offering a special room rate for the
tournament.  It is located one mile from the pitches.  Rooms are available
for Friday and Saturday nights.  Rooms are £50- single or double occupancy.
This rate includes full English breakfast, ensuite rooms, fully equiped
rooms (tea&coffee, hairdryer, ironing board, radio, TV, etc.) use of the
restaurant for dinner (at an additional cost) and use of the leisure club
(which has a swimming pool and sauna).  The centre also has a bar.  And for
those of you with more money than sense, Staverton has a golf course; tee
times are available.  Check out the facilities at
www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk <http://www.poolatstavertonpark.co.uk>   
Rooms are on a first-come first serve basis.  Call 01327 302 000 to book,
and ask for the frisbee rate.  You'll need a credit card for a deposit.
 
OTHER INFO
 
There will be on-site food both Satruday and Sunday.  I am negotiating to
keep costs down.
 
Entry deadline is September 20.  
 
Any questions?  Contact me on this email address or on 01280 701 715.
 
 
Nancy Stebbing
 


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Subject: London Ultimate League wrap-up
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Far Queue are the 2001 London Ultimate League Champions
-------------------------------------------------------
Bad Habits win Spirit
---------------------

Far Queue beat Freak Show 17-10 in a wind-swept final on Saturday. The teams
traded early on, with only one upwind point each giving Freak Show the half
9-8. But come the second half Far Queue's offence upwind became increasingly
assured, and they took the last six points unanswered to finish 17-10.

This year's spirit award went to Bad Habits who inched ahead of Far Queue
and Spandau to take the glittery lava lamp trophy. Plate winners were
Albatross who didn't stay long enough after the final to collect their beer
and chocolate. The Stella's still around, but sorry, I've started on the
Maltesers.

I'll have more info and pictures on the website in the next week or two.
Until then, can I say thanks to everyone who helped out on the day,
particularly Fi, Jester, Sema, Lisa, Charlie, and everyone who helped
trundle that huge scaffold tower quarter of a mile across the common after
the game. I'd never have made it to the party without you.

Finally, thank you to all the teams for taking part. Hope you all enjoyed
playing this year.


Finals Video
------------

We successfully shot the final using three DV cameras, and work on editing
it all together is under way. As soon as it's ready, I'll let you know.


Finishing positions
-------------------

Here are the official finishing positions for this year's league:

1 Far Queue
2 Freak Show
3 Strawberry Jam
4 Angels
5 Hammerage
6 Spandau
7 Albatross (plate)
8 Playthings
9 Cloud 9
10 Whey!
11 Bad Habits (spirit)
12 Pyramus


Cheers. See you again next year.

Paul


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Paul Hurt
London Ultimate League
http://www.londonultimate.org

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Hi Paul,

just a quick note to say thanks again for organising a great League, I know that we really enjoyed it... so thanks again from everyone

Hannah (Far Queue)

Lighting Design Engineer
LiDAC
Tel :  020 8781 8315
Fax : 020 8781 8018


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Paul

Would like to second Hannah's comments.  Thanks very much for sorting out
everything for the London League, it was great fun :)

Cheers
Fi

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:50:10 +0100, hannah.easter@philips.com wrote:

  Hi Paul,
  
  just a quick note to say thanks again for organising a great League, I
know that we really enjoyed it... so thanks again from everyone
  
  Hannah (Far Queue)
  
  Lighting Design Engineer
  LiDAC
  Tel :  020 8781 8315
  Fax : 020 8781 8018
  
  





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Hi Folks,

>From a british point of view the best "Stat" was that Ruth Steele 
came third and took home a very impressive bronze medal. Fumio 
Morooka (Moro) has provided some more facts and figures below. 

One stat which doesn't appear is the number of hours work put in 
by Moro, his wife and many other volunteers. They did a great job.


1. During WG(11 days) over 300,000 spectators came to venues.

2. 4,300 atheletes & officials came from 92 countries.

3. 18% of Japanese watched WG Opening Ceremony by NHK TV.

4. 133 countries people watched WG by Trans World Sports.

5. NHK TV broadcasted Disc Golf for 25 mins. in 3 days nationwide.

6. Major(nationwide) newspapers reported Disc Golf with photos.

7. Mr. Richard Kevan Gosper AO, Vice President of  IOC, Mr. Ron 
Froehlich, President of IWGA,  Mr. Bob de Die, Vice Senior 
President of IWGA, Mr.Co Koren, Secretary General of IWGA,  Mr. 
Chiharu Igaya, IOC members and National Olympic Committees 
executives came to watch Disc Golf matches.
   Mr. Gosper said " I'm so impressed".

8. Mr. Ron Froehlich, President of IWGA sent me the letter as 
follows;

I do want to thank you for everything you have done because you 
are a very true and loyal supporter of the IWGA and I hope that we 
will have many opportunities to work together with you at other 
World Games in your sport of Flying Disc.

Once again, my sincere thanks to you.

Yours sincerely,
INTERNATIONAL WORLD GAMES ASSOCIATION
Ron Froehlich
President



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Hi all,

If any one is around Edinburgh this weekend then come and join us.

Magic Circle Outdoors.

Sat 15th September.
Peffermill Playing Fields.
Starting at 845am.
Finishing at 4pm.

Cost: 5pounds each (if you register in advance).
	7.50each on the day.

Plus HUGE party in the evening at a venue to be confirmed.

Players of all standards are welcome - the more the merrier.

Barry


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I don't know if any of you know but there has just been 3 planes hijacked in the USA, 2 have been crashed into the world trade centre and the White house and part of the Pentagon have been evacuated.

I thought I would let you all know as if you are like me... you have familiy that may be involved.

Hannah

Lighting Design Engineer
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Fax : 020 8781 8018


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The third crashed into the Pentagon and one tower of the
World trade centre just collapsed. 

Unbelievable.  Most of the news sites are down from the
web traffic but the bbc still seems up.

Steve

-------------------
Stephen Giguere



> -----Original Message-----
> From: hannah.easter@philips.com [mailto:hannah.easter@philips.com]
> Sent: 11 September 2001 14:54
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> 
> 
> I don't know if any of you know but there has just been 3 
> planes hijacked in the USA, 2 have been crashed into the 
> world trade centre and the White house and part of the 
> Pentagon have been evacuated.
> 
> I thought I would let you all know as if you are like me... 
> you have familiy that may be involved.
> 
> Hannah
> 
> Lighting Design Engineer
> LiDAC
> Tel :  020 8781 8315
> Fax : 020 8781 8018
> 
> 

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both towers have gone now....

1 plane is still in the air, 3 have crashed into the pentagon (so some reports have said)

Hannah

Lighting Design Engineer
LiDAC
Tel :  020 8781 8315
Fax : 020 8781 8018





Stephen Giguere <SGiguere@bluews.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 09/11/2001 03:17:09 PM

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The third crashed into the Pentagon and one tower of the
World trade centre just collapsed.

Unbelievable.  Most of the news sites are down from the
web traffic but the bbc still seems up.

Steve

-------------------
Stephen Giguere



> -----Original Message-----
> From: hannah.easter@philips.com [mailto:hannah.easter@philips.com]
> Sent: 11 September 2001 14:54
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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>
>
> I don't know if any of you know but there has just been 3
> planes hijacked in the USA, 2 have been crashed into the
> world trade centre and the White house and part of the
> Pentagon have been evacuated.
>
> I thought I would let you all know as if you are like me...
> you have familiy that may be involved.
>
> Hannah
>
> Lighting Design Engineer
> LiDAC
> Tel :  020 8781 8315
> Fax : 020 8781 8018
>
>




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The Foreign Office has issued a number for worried relatives 020 7008 0000

Phil

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:42 PM
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both towers have gone now....

1 plane is still in the air, 3 have crashed into the pentagon (so some
reports have said)

Hannah

Lighting Design Engineer
LiDAC
Tel :  020 8781 8315
Fax : 020 8781 8018





Stephen Giguere <SGiguere@bluews.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 09/11/2001 03:17:09
PM

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The third crashed into the Pentagon and one tower of the
World trade centre just collapsed.

Unbelievable.  Most of the news sites are down from the
web traffic but the bbc still seems up.

Steve

-------------------
Stephen Giguere



> -----Original Message-----
> From: hannah.easter@philips.com [mailto:hannah.easter@philips.com]
> Sent: 11 September 2001 14:54
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: the news
>
>
> I don't know if any of you know but there has just been 3
> planes hijacked in the USA, 2 have been crashed into the
> world trade centre and the White house and part of the
> Pentagon have been evacuated.
>
> I thought I would let you all know as if you are like me...
> you have familiy that may be involved.
>
> Hannah
>
> Lighting Design Engineer
> LiDAC
> Tel :  020 8781 8315
> Fax : 020 8781 8018
>
>





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As detailed in my earlier mail the Nationals Rankings will be based on the Tour finishing positions before any penalties are imposed. Below you will find Tour rankings, Nationals Seedings and some comments;


Tour Results (Apologies for presentation)


TEAM NAME             TOUR 1   TOUR 2   TOUR 3     TOUR 4   RANKING 
                                  PTS POS PTS POS PTS POS  PTS POS PTS POS
RANK
Clapham 1                250  1/28  250  1/28  210  4/36  250  1/26 960   1
Chevron Action Flash  230  2/28  222  3/28  222  3/36  230  2/26 904   2
Fluid Druids          181  7/28  181  7/28  230  2/36  210  4/26 802   3
LeedsLeedsLeeds       205  5/28  210  4/28  160  9/36  222  3/26 761   4  *1
Fusion 1              210  4/28  205  5/28  181  7/36  160  9/26 756   5
TeamShark             190  6/28  190  6/28  205  5/36  150 10/26 735   6
Red                   170  8/28  170  8/28  190  6/36  190  6/26 720   7
Smash & Grab          160  9/28  150 10/28  150 10/36  181  7/26 641   8
Whey                  150 10/28  160  9/28  110 14/36  170  8/26 590  9
Headrush              130 12/28  110 14/28  141 11/36  205  5/26 586  10
Blue Arse Flies Open  141 11/28  125 13/28  170  8/36  141 11/26 577  11
Clapham 2             222  3/28  230  2/28  250  1/36            566   12  *2
Hammerage             125 13/28  141 11/28  130 12/36   81 18/26 477  13
Un Poco Loco          110 14/28  130 12/28   90 16/36  130 12/26 460  14
Nightfever             90 16/28   90 16/28   72 19/36  110 14/26 362  15
Strange Blue          101 15/28   67 19/28   48 25/36  101 15/26 317  16
Blue Arse Flies Mixed  81 17/28  101 15/28  101 15/36            283  17
Fusion 2               73 18/28   73 18/28   81 17/36            227  18
Flyght Club            67 19/28   40 23/28   56 23/36   56 20/26 219  19
Albatross              27 25/28              64 21/36  125 13/26 216  20
Jedi                   53 21/28   53 21/28   60 22/36   48 21/26 214  21
Slipdisc               40 23/28   60 20/28   36 28/36   72 17/26 208  22
GB Juniors             60 20/28   47 22/28   76 18/36            183  23
Craic                                       125 13/36            125  24
No Damn Yanks                                32 29/36   90 16/26 122  25
Sublime                47 22/28              44 26/36             91  26
Hustlers                          33 24/28   52 24/36             85  27
Bliss                             81 17/28                        81  28
Trigger Happy                      7 28/28   24 31/36   40 22/26  71  29
Mohawk Mwnci Magic     20 26/28              28 30/36   32 23/26  68  30  *3
Northern Roses 1                  20 26/28   20 32/36   16 25/26  56  31
Jammie Bodgers                               12 34/36   24 24/26  36  32
Bears                   7 28/28   27 25/28                        34  33
Mild Mannered Janitors 13 27/28   13 27/28               8 26/26  34  33
UWE                    33 24/28                                   33  35
Skunks 1                                     40 27/36             30  36  *4
Uriel                                        16 33/36             16  37
Skunks 2                                      8 35/36              8  38
Northern Roses 2                              4 36/36              4  39

*1 - Penalised 36 points for infringement of seeding rules at T4
*2 - Penalised 20% of final ranking due to late withdrawal from T4
*3 - Penalised 15% of points for late withdrawal from T1
*4 - Penalised 25% of points for late withdrawal form T1


Nationals Seedings

Clapham 1                1
Chevron Action Flash  2
Fluid Druids          3
LeedsLeedsLeeds       4
Fusion 1              5
TeamShark             6
Red                   7
Clapham 2             8
Smash & Grab          9
Whey                  10
Headrush              11
Blue Arse Flies Open  12
Hammerage             13
Un Poco Loco          14
Nightfever             15
Strange Blue          16
Blue Arse Flies Mixed  17
Fusion 2               18
Flyght Club            19
Albatross              20
Jedi                   21
Slipdisc               22
GB Juniors             23
Craic                                       24
No Damn Yanks                                25
Sublime                26
Hustlers                          27
Bliss                             28
Mohawk Mwnci Magic     29
Trigger Happy                      30
Northern Roses 1                  31
Skunks 1                                     32
Jammie Bodgers                               33
Bears                   34
Mild Mannered Janitors 34
UWE                    36
Uriel                                        37
Skunks 2                                      38
Northern Roses 2		39

Tour Spirit Winners
Flyght Club

Tour Plate Winners
Hammerage

Congratulations to Clapham, Flyght Club, and Hammerage. A good series this year, in which the real excitement generally happened in the middle section which was a highly competitive section with lots of movement  as teams fought hard for places. This bodes well for the future of British ultimate.

As per the agreement in the BUF AGM last year Clapham have secured themselves one of the two slots for World Clubs as Tour Winners. The second guaranteed slot goes to Nationals winners (or second in the tour should Clapham win Nationals). Any further slots will be offered according to tour rankings. This will mean that Chevron will secure the second slot unless someone other than Clapham or Chevron wins at Nationals.

The Nationals will be a 32 team knockout this year, and will take place in Daventry as already advertised by Nancy.

Good luck to you all.

Chris Hughes
DoC

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Chevron and Angels-

Blowing off submitting a Nationals roster for your co-ed team is NOT the =
way to pursue an invitation to play in Hawaii.

Everyone else has managed it?  Where are yours?



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All,

Those of you that were at tour 4 this year  will have been aware of complications, those of you that weren't probably heard about them. This is the decisions made after the event following some official complaints from teams. I apologise for the delay in this, missive, but recently I haven't had the time to follow this through until now.

There were three issues that arose from T4; the late withdrawal from the tournament by a Clapham team, the incorrect seeding of LeedsLeedsLeeds, and the consequence that some teams only played four games.

1. The late withdrawal from Clapham. The rules on this are very clear. "Lose 5% of final ranking score PER DAY (including the Monday) to be deducted at the end of the tour." Therefore Clapham 2 (the team that withdrew) withdrawing on the Thursday lose 20% of their final ranking score. Clapham 2 are also blacklisted for the next tour event - the rules are very specific in that a team cannot be blacklisted for National Finals. (Check the Tour rules for what exactly is meant by blacklisting). However it was decided by the committee that to then seed Clapham 2 for Nationals (should they wish to attend) according to the position after penalties had been deducted would skew  the seeding unnecessarily, and unreasonably. Therefore Nationals would be seeded based on points score before penalties (which applies to all teams with penalties). That Clapham 2 finished 8th is due to their involvement in less than  all four tours, like a number of other teams, which is each teams individual choice. This in itself may skew the rankings, however to artificially alter them would cause further problems.
I wish to applaud Clapham, and particularly RT, for the manner in which they conducted themselves over the incident. They have repeatedly apologised and accepted with good grace the penalties imposed, and were aware enough of the rules to be able to tell me what they expected any penalty to be. Whilst having the seedings altered before Nationals with a points penalty might actually benefit the Clapham 2 team, they were able to see the problems that this might cause other teams, and felt that this would benefit the majority of players, and not just their own.

2. The incorrect seeding of LeedsLeedsLeeds. The rules did not foresee such an event as a such the u8c had to set a precedent. The withdrawal of Clapham did leave a space in the top 8 group, and LLL were the logical team to fill this, but all teams should have simply shuffled up a slot. The placing of LLL at 4th was unacceptable. Whilst I was not available for consultation, any member of the u8c would have been able to advise the TD's of this, as would any member of the BUF committee. Therefore it was decided to penalise LLL 36 points for the infraction.
This decision is not a punitive decision based on a number of reasons, however the main reasoning is that tour was not organised by LLL as a team, instead it was run by a number of individuals, with the core members are part of LLL. To drastically penalise or disqualify a team for a mistake made by one of its members  running an event is liable to have an negative effect on those groups or people who are prepared to organise a tour event - why run an event if a mistake by you will hurt your team. Instead the T4 organisers should consider this a slap on the wrists with more sever penalties if this occurs again in the future.
Apart from this error, made under pressure as time ran out, the T4 event was superbly run, and a great contribution to the years tour. Without out the organisation of Arum, Rik and others there would have been far fewer events on the Calendar this year, and for that we thank them.

3. Teams who only played 4 games. During the season, a number of teams may only play five games in a tour event, without compensation. This is unfortunate and is a by product of trying to accommodate so many teams. Attempts are made in scheduling to avoid this occurring to teams too often, but this cannot always be prevented as teams move up, or down the seedings. To have teams only play four games in one tournament is unacceptable for the costs paid. The T4 organisers agreed with this has have agreed to give those teams only playing four games a partial refund (and I understand this has already happened).

Thank you all for your patience in this, and whilst I am aware that this is not to everyone's satisfaction, it should meet with approval from the majority of teams.

Chris Hughes
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Hi britdisc,

Ultimate teams tend to form, reform, split, merge and reinvent 
themselves with great regularity, but one team stands out as ever 
present in the history of British Ultimate. Warwick University’s Frisbee 
Club celebrates 25 years outstanding service and rather than award a 
silver watch in recognition of this achievement we have opted for the 
sports usual form of celebration – one BIG PARTY!!!

Something like 1000 people have passed through the club and 
obviously they had first option on the tickets, but now we are able to 
widen the invite and welcome along people who may not have been at 
Warwick, but identify with the club and want to join in the party.

Here’s the key information. The main event is on October 27th when we 
have Ultimate pitches booked at the University and dinner at the 
Chesford Grange hotel (located 4 miles away in the direction of 
Leamington Spa). The dinner will be the full works with waitress 
service, 3 course meal, coffee and hopefully including a substantial 
amount of wine. We have a late bar, until 1am and Tom Styles of 
Block Stack productions will be providing the tunes for the party. The 
more people we get, the more wine we can include with the meal! 
There will also be at least one commemorative item such as a disc or T-
shirt.

The cost is £35 pounds per person and our aim is to provide as much 
as we can for the money. In order to do this we need to get numbers 
confirmed early, and the hotel requires us to give them final numbers in 
a weeks time. After that point they may refuse to accept an increase.

If you want to join the party, here’s what you have to do. Write a 
cheque for £35 per person, payable to “Warwick Old Bears” and send it 
to 
Richard Hicks
13 Ashfield Road
Kenilworth
Warwickshire
CV8 2BE.
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Please include with this your address, e-mail, phone number. Please 
also tell us of any particular links with the club or players which might 
be useful in putting teams together or planning seating arrangements. 
Last but not least if you have a favourite story or photograph involving 
the club, we would like that too. Please act NOW and help us make 
this a party to remember.
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I have only recieved 14 entries for Nationals.  There are many notable =
exceptions.  Please send your cheques quickly, as the entry deadline is =
September 20.

Cheques for =A3135 (includes BUF tax) to

Nancy Stebbing
10 Buckingham Road
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Could any Strange Blue guys out there tell me how to get back on the mailing 
list - my Cambridge email account got closed down and Ive lost the address.
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If it was indeed Clapham 2 who withdrew from Tour 4, then it wasn't just LLL 
who were wrongly seeded!! Clapham 1 should have been seeded 3rd, Chevy 2nd, 
and Druids 1st.

Jaimie
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how the hell did you work that out ?

(going by Chris' list)
Clapham 1 after 3 events : 710 points
Clapham 2			 : 702
Chevvy			 : 644
Fusion 1			 : 596 
Druids			 : 592
Team Shark			 : 585
LLL				 : 575
Red 				 : 530
S & G				 : 460

take away Clapham 2 and what do you get?

Hedge.
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If it was indeed Clapham 2 who withdrew from Tour 4, then it wasn't just LLL

who were wrongly seeded!! Clapham 1 should have been seeded 3rd, Chevy 2nd, 
and Druids 1st.

Jaimie
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Hello Britdisc,

I hope I'm not misusing Britdisc but I need to ask a favour. I would be
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office (01970 622838) or home (01970 828024, after 8pm).

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I think what Jamie meant was that the results for tour 3 were

Clapham 2
Druids
Chevy
Clapham 1

So if Clapham 2 dropped out then why did Clapham 1 get seeded 1st for tour 4?

Crispy
OW!, Teamshark

-----Original Message-----
>From : Jakob Donkersloot <jakob.donkersloot@co-activ.com>
To : britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Date : 12 September 2001 13:20:36
Subject : RE: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings
how the hell did you work that out ?
>
>(going by Chris' list)
>Clapham 1 after 3 events : 710 points
>Clapham 2			 : 702
>Chevvy			 : 644
>Fusion 1			 : 596 
>Druids			 : 592
>Team Shark			 : 585
>LLL				 : 575
>Red 				 : 530
>S & G				 : 460
>
>take away Clapham 2 and what do you get?
>
>Hedge.
>(YBK,NR,etc...)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jaimie Cross [mailto:adrenochrome_donor@hotmail.com]
>Sent: 12 September 2001 04:54
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; u8c@yahoogroups.com; buf@listbot.co.uk
>Subject: Re: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings
>
>
>If it was indeed Clapham 2 who withdrew from Tour 4, then it wasn't just LLL
>
>who were wrongly seeded!! Clapham 1 should have been seeded 3rd, Chevy 2nd, 
>and Druids 1st.
>
>Jaimie
>LLL
>
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I stand corrected.

When I click my fingers you will have no recollection of the previous
email...

 >CLICK!<

Hedge.



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 12 September 2001 05:21
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how the hell did you work that out ?

(going by Chris' list)
Clapham 1 after 3 events : 710 points
Clapham 2			 : 702
Chevvy			 : 644
Fusion 1			 : 596 
Druids			 : 592
Team Shark			 : 585
LLL				 : 575
Red 				 : 530
S & G				 : 460

take away Clapham 2 and what do you get?

Hedge.
(YBK,NR,etc...)


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 12 September 2001 04:54
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Subject: Re: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings


If it was indeed Clapham 2 who withdrew from Tour 4, then it wasn't just LLL

who were wrongly seeded!! Clapham 1 should have been seeded 3rd, Chevy 2nd, 
and Druids 1st.

Jaimie
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>So if Clapham 2 dropped out then why did Clapham 1 get seeded 1st for tour
4?
And should we penalise LeedsLeedsLeeds more points for getting more of the
seedings wrong? ;-) 

Seriously now, I assume common sense dictated that aspect of the seeding.
Clapham 2 finished above Clapham 1 at Southampton for 2 reasons: we'd paid
some attention to the teams Aram had picked (and err, the rather stacked
Clapham 2 which he himself was playing on), we'd murmured to him but hadn't
pushed our point; and secondly Clapham 1 was weakened on the day by injuries
to two or three of the better players.

In retrospect the Tour rules probably need some kind of amendment to cope
with that kind of freak occurrence (along the lines of 'if geo teams have
two teams the first team always takes the seeding of the higher placed team
in the previous event'), but common sense was an adequate substitute in this
case.

You're right though that Tour rules appear to have been broken. Noone said
anything as at the time it seemed the eminently sensible thing to do. In any
case, we were completely passive subjects of the seeding and I hope it's not
us who gets caned with more penalty points!

lol
rt


-----Original Message-----
From: crispy@fatso.co.uk [mailto:crispy@fatso.co.uk]
Sent: 12 September 2001 13:52
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings


I think what Jamie meant was that the results for tour 3 were

Clapham 2
Druids
Chevy
Clapham 1

So if Clapham 2 dropped out then why did Clapham 1 get seeded 1st for tour
4?

Crispy
OW!, Teamshark

-----Original Message-----
>From : Jakob Donkersloot <jakob.donkersloot@co-activ.com>
To : britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Date : 12 September 2001 13:20:36
Subject : RE: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings
how the hell did you work that out ?
>
>(going by Chris' list)
>Clapham 1 after 3 events : 710 points
>Clapham 2			 : 702
>Chevvy			 : 644
>Fusion 1			 : 596 
>Druids			 : 592
>Team Shark			 : 585
>LLL				 : 575
>Red 				 : 530
>S & G				 : 460
>
>take away Clapham 2 and what do you get?
>
>Hedge.
>(YBK,NR,etc...)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jaimie Cross [mailto:adrenochrome_donor@hotmail.com]
>Sent: 12 September 2001 04:54
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; u8c@yahoogroups.com; buf@listbot.co.uk
>Subject: Re: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings
>
>
>If it was indeed Clapham 2 who withdrew from Tour 4, then it wasn't just
LLL
>
>who were wrongly seeded!! Clapham 1 should have been seeded 3rd, Chevy 2nd,

>and Druids 1st.
>
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>LLL
>
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>>So if Clapham 2 dropped out then why did Clapham 1 get seeded 1st for tour
>4?

I'd go with "Clapham Ultimate" being seeded 1 at Tour 4 because "Clapham
Ultimate" (ignore the 1 or 2 - they're geo, so can mix their teams to
play first and second, or equal teams) won Tour 3.

Wayne Retter
Fluid Druids 
PS: you can seed us @ 1 if you want!
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Hi Britdisc,

Could someone please send me contact details for the student
co-ordinator or just the current regulations.

Thanks

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Hi Wayne and Britdisc,
I see things slightly differently as their "a" team (Clapham 1) finished
lower than their "b" team (Clapham 2) at tour 3 shouldn't their "a" team be
withdrawn from tour 4 as if you don't have enough players for that event
(tour 4) the lowest placed team should have been withdrawn in this case
their "a" team not their "b" team
As I've seen this happen in other tennis leagues where 2 teams from the same
club have been in the same league, and the supposedly higher ranked team has
been relegated from that league, and the next year the following suffixes
have remained the same so that the "d" team has ended up playing in the
higher division to a "c" team.
If this is the case then Clapham must forfeit the points for their "a" team
and the points for tour 4 should goto their "b" team and penalties be
adjusted as such

Complicated I know but that's the way I see it

So what if Aram loaded one team at tour 3 that's your choice as members of
the Clapham club to go along with it !!!

And can I ask if each team needed a separate roster for the tour or just one
for the club?? and will this be the same next year??? U8c discuss

Si.b

Chevy



----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings


> >>So if Clapham 2 dropped out then why did Clapham 1 get seeded 1st for
tour
> >4?
>
> I'd go with "Clapham Ultimate" being seeded 1 at Tour 4 because "Clapham
> Ultimate" (ignore the 1 or 2 - they're geo, so can mix their teams to
> play first and second, or equal teams) won Tour 3.
>
> Wayne Retter
> Fluid Druids
> PS: you can seed us @ 1 if you want!
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Wayne Retter
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>

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From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
Subject: Notice of AGM + New Association Information
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:48:01 +0100

Dear All,

Please take time to read the entire contents of this email carefully -
it will affect the ultimate you play (and pay for) from next year
onwards.

The 2001 BUF AGM will take place on the Saturday of the Open
Nationals:-
8pm, 6th October, Daventry Sports Ground.

AGENDA

1. The dissolution of the British Ultimate Federation.

2. Approving a new constitution for the association.

3. Timetabling the formation of the association.

4. Choosing a name for the new association


HOW THIS AFFECTS YOU

It is the intention of the BUF Committee to dissolve the BUF in favour
of a player-membership organisation similar to the Ultimate Players
Association in the USA. To do this we will need the approval of a
majority of the teams who constitute the BUF.

Because it has become impossible to get sufficient team representatives
round the table at AGM we will hold a postal/email ballot of all the
teams in the country.


WHAT YOU NEED TO DO

1. UPDATE and RESUBMIT the information listed for your team on
www.ukultimate.com. We need current addresses and working emails
please. Any problems with the website *please* let us know.

2. Read through the association proposal document
(http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.htm) and also the draft
constitution which I will circulate shortly.

3. Discuss the proposal with your team and on the email groups.

4. By Monday 24th September you will have received a postal ballot form
which needs to be returned by the following Monday, 1st October. We
would also be happy to receive your response via email also.


PLEASE make sure you are fully aware of what we are proposing. We
cannot act without the approval of a majority of teams and we do not
want to set the ball rolling until players have reached a positive
consensus on the association.

We would like to see as much public debate as possible on this. We
would welcome your questions and will be happy to answer them in
public.

Thanks for your time - I really hope our organisation is going to be
much better for everyone next year.

Ben

Ben Ravilious
Secretary
British Ultimate Federation

PS - sorry for the hideous multiple cross-posting. The need to reach as
many players as possible seemed to justify it.

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Various people have requested additional items for the BUF AGM. 

To clarify, we are only intending to deal with association matters at the AGM.

It is our intention to hold elections for the association board of directors soon after the AGM. This election will be the opportunity to raise items relating to next season.

One of the more fundamental changes we want to make is to move towards voting in the right *people* rather than voting on every *issue*. This means that directors will be elected on the basis of what they intend/promise to do in their term of office. 

I will circulate the proposed new constitution soon (when I've finished it!) but the plan is to have a board of around 12 directors. Important jobs like President, Director of Competitions, etc will be elected onto the board specifically but the other directors will essentially be 'without portfolio'. The board will appoint or employ people into other specific roles where these are not performed by directors themselves.

Ben

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The proposal for the new association did not make it clear whether
non-members would be able to play in the coed tour.  It seems to me that
a requirement of membership for participation in the coed tour would be
problematic, for two reasons.  First, one of the stated aims of the coed
tour is to introduce new players, especially women, to ultimate; second,
if the coed tour becomes members-only there are very few tournaments left
on the calendar (and fewer affordable ones!) in which non-members would
have the opportunity to play.  On the other hand, the coed tour (or
nationals at any rate) are used to select teams for major tournaments such
as worlds or Europeans, and from that perspective it seems like all
members should belong to the players association.  Any comments?

Jonathan Harris (strange blue)

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Hello,

My name is Oisin Flanagan and I play for UCD and
Craic(Dublin). I'll be travelling from france to UK
Nationals so I hope to fly to London Stansted on the
Friday before, Oct 5. If there are any London players
driving to Daventry who have room in their car I'd be
very grateful of a lift. Of course I'll contribute for
petrol, etc. A lift back to london would also be great
but I'll take anything.

If so, please mail me at <o_flanagan@yahoo.com>

Thank a lot and sorry for the spammy nature of this
email.

Oisin

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>From what I remember of the work Ben did on this proposal, it was completed 
before the Mixed Tour was introduced.

One way around the new player issue would be to make the Mixed Tours available 
to non-members but if they want to compete at Mixed Nationals then they would 
have to become a member.
Brand new players can't play at Mixed Nationals anyway because they have to 
have played for their chosen team in a Mixed Tour event in order to qualify.

Ruth
Red



>===== Original Message From Jonathan Harris <jjwh3@hermes.cam.ac.uk> =====
>The proposal for the new association did not make it clear whether
>non-members would be able to play in the coed tour.  It seems to me that
>a requirement of membership for participation in the coed tour would be
>problematic, for two reasons.  First, one of the stated aims of the coed
>tour is to introduce new players, especially women, to ultimate; second,
>if the coed tour becomes members-only there are very few tournaments left
>on the calendar (and fewer affordable ones!) in which non-members would
>have the opportunity to play.  On the other hand, the coed tour (or
>nationals at any rate) are used to select teams for major tournaments such
>as worlds or Europeans, and from that perspective it seems like all
>members should belong to the players association.  Any comments?
>
>Jonathan Harris (strange blue)

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1. Teams in the Coed Tour with non-members (ie. those introducing new
players) are not very likely to reach the slots which would make them
eligible for Worlds & Europeans, making it less of a problem.

2. What about foreign teams (more so Coed Tour) and foreign pick-ups (like
random Americans who seem to turn up quite regularly for tournaments).
Surely they can't be expected to be members, yet they will want to play
whichever tournament is available or most convenient. At the bottom end of
the Tour there should be more room for manouevre by teams short of players
(especially student teams with a fickle/financially impaired membership --
I'm talking about paying tournament fee and travel expenses, not just
membership fee). These teams will want to take anyone they can get, be they
foreign pick-up or any non-regular UK player.

Could there be some way of paying some fee on top of the tournament fee to
play in member-only tournaments, specifically for those non-contending teams
who want to get the experience nonetheless ?   

Hedge
(whoever will have me...)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 13 September 2001 04:16
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The proposal for the new association did not make it clear whether
non-members would be able to play in the coed tour.  It seems to me that
a requirement of membership for participation in the coed tour would be
problematic, for two reasons.  First, one of the stated aims of the coed
tour is to introduce new players, especially women, to ultimate; second,
if the coed tour becomes members-only there are very few tournaments left
on the calendar (and fewer affordable ones!) in which non-members would
have the opportunity to play.  On the other hand, the coed tour (or
nationals at any rate) are used to select teams for major tournaments such
as worlds or Europeans, and from that perspective it seems like all
members should belong to the players association.  Any comments?

Jonathan Harris (strange blue)

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"...all new registrants will be offered the option of a free year of
eligibility for all national events."

Surely this covers new players to the mixed events, without the need for
additional exceptions?

Barry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Ruth Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:02 PM
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: New Association and the coed tour
>
>
> >From what I remember of the work Ben did on this proposal, it
> was completed
> before the Mixed Tour was introduced.
>
> One way around the new player issue would be to make the Mixed
> Tours available
> to non-members but if they want to compete at Mixed Nationals
> then they would
> have to become a member.
> Brand new players can't play at Mixed Nationals anyway because
> they have to
> have played for their chosen team in a Mixed Tour event in order
> to qualify.
>
> Ruth
> Red
>
>
>
> >===== Original Message From Jonathan Harris
> <jjwh3@hermes.cam.ac.uk> =====
> >The proposal for the new association did not make it clear whether
> >non-members would be able to play in the coed tour.  It seems to me that
> >a requirement of membership for participation in the coed tour would be
> >problematic, for two reasons.  First, one of the stated aims of the coed
> >tour is to introduce new players, especially women, to ultimate; second,
> >if the coed tour becomes members-only there are very few tournaments left
> >on the calendar (and fewer affordable ones!) in which non-members would
> >have the opportunity to play.  On the other hand, the coed tour (or
> >nationals at any rate) are used to select teams for major
> tournaments such
> >as worlds or Europeans, and from that perspective it seems like all
> >members should belong to the players association.  Any comments?
> >
> >Jonathan Harris (strange blue)
>

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To everyone else who may want to point this passage out to me:
I did read the document, but missed that bit.

It'll only make me comment on it though.
Hahaha, you can't silence the voice of insanity (surely reason..?)

Anyway,
£10 is an exorbitant amount for what is appropriately called being a
'guest'. If people are 'ducking the main membership fee' then they obviously
do not feel they get their money's worth. If 'large numbers of existing
players' are only wanting to attend one 'official BUA event' then either
charging them twice as much for that event (normal tournament fee divided by
usual number of people on a team) or getting them to become a member of the
BUA can hardly be called inclusive and certainly not reasonable. People
playing as guests are exactly that, they can at most be expected to pay some
administration fee. It would be fair though for there to be restrictions,
such as number of non-members on a team (exeptions for student teams..?) and
also number of times a person can be a guest in a year (say once or twice).

That's it for the moment (expect more to follow when I discover more
"hidden" sections in the proposal)

Hedge


------------
Hedge,

I think that pick-up player part of your second point is covered in

Provisional Membership
An existing player who only intends to attend one ?official? BUA event
(e.g. a foreign guest player at a Tour event) will be offered a per-event
Provisional Membership fee entry. The tournament director might be given a
cut from this in order to encourage collection. This Provisional membership
will require the player to register their details (for rostering purposes
if nothing else) and will be set at a high enough rate to prohibit large
numbers of existing players from ducking the main membership fee. We feel
that a provisional one-event fee of £10 is reasonable.

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Barry, Ruth, Jon,

Yes its true, I first wrote the first version of the proposal before the
mixed tour existed!

Making association membership obligatory for the mixed nationals event only
is a workable idea if it proves necessary but I think the free year of
eligibility should deal with new players just fine.

Anyone disagree?

Ben

----- Original Message -----
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To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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> The proposal for the new association did not make it clear whether
> non-members would be able to play in the coed tour.  It seems to me that
> a requirement of membership for participation in the coed tour would be
> problematic, for two reasons.  First, one of the stated aims of the coed
> tour is to introduce new players, especially women, to ultimate; second,
> if the coed tour becomes members-only there are very few tournaments left
> on the calendar (and fewer affordable ones!) in which non-members would
> have the opportunity to play.  On the other hand, the coed tour (or
> nationals at any rate) are used to select teams for major tournaments such
> as worlds or Europeans, and from that perspective it seems like all
> members should belong to the players association.  Any comments?
>
> Jonathan Harris (strange blue)
>
>

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Hedge & others,

You're right that visiting foreign teams shouldn't have to have to pay £10
per player per event, I've got no problem with that and I doubt anyone else
would have. Looks like I missed that issue out.

As for foreign *individuals* thats a different matter. If they're here for
just a month of so then a per tournament fee isn't going to hurt them. If
they're here for several months then they should join properly. I'm sure we
can work out some sort of compromise if they're only going to be around for
6 months.

The £10/event fee I suggested isn't by any means set in stone - it was just
that - a suggestion. Unfortunately if we lower this considerably then we run
a real risk of large numbers of UK resident players not joining which could
jeopardise the whole project.

The £10 suggested amount was deliberately high as it is not far off paying
for full membership (which we would rather people did)

Given that.....

a) students and unwaged get a large reduction
b) the eligibility requirements only apply to certain tournaments
c) new players can have a free year of eligibility
d) members get a newsletter, insurance, ISP, etc
e) student competitions will be exempt from membership requirement.

... I feel that this proposal bends over backwards to accommodate everyone.

I don't actually believe there are many people out there who only attend one
official event each year. Even if there are, they're going to get the full
range of other benefits from membership. I reckon for most people, once
they're hooked they're not going to mind

There has to be a balance struck between obtaining sufficient income and
avoiding alienating players. I *thought* the proposal achieved this but I
would be interested to hear from others who disagree

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jakob Donkersloot" <jakob.donkersloot@co-activ.com>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 13 September 2001 17:06
Subject: RE: New Association and the coed tour


> To everyone else who may want to point this passage out to me:
> I did read the document, but missed that bit.
>
> It'll only make me comment on it though.
> Hahaha, you can't silence the voice of insanity (surely reason..?)
>
> Anyway,
> £10 is an exorbitant amount for what is appropriately called being a
> 'guest'. If people are 'ducking the main membership fee' then they
obviously
> do not feel they get their money's worth. If 'large numbers of existing
> players' are only wanting to attend one 'official BUA event' then either
> charging them twice as much for that event (normal tournament fee divided
by
> usual number of people on a team) or getting them to become a member of
the
> BUA can hardly be called inclusive and certainly not reasonable. People
> playing as guests are exactly that, they can at most be expected to pay
some
> administration fee. It would be fair though for there to be restrictions,
> such as number of non-members on a team (exeptions for student teams..?)
and
> also number of times a person can be a guest in a year (say once or
twice).
>
> That's it for the moment (expect more to follow when I discover more
> "hidden" sections in the proposal)
>
> Hedge
>
>
> ------------
> Hedge,
>
> I think that pick-up player part of your second point is covered in
>
> Provisional Membership
> An existing player who only intends to attend one ?official? BUA event
> (e.g. a foreign guest player at a Tour event) will be offered a per-event
> Provisional Membership fee entry. The tournament director might be given a
> cut from this in order to encourage collection. This Provisional
membership
> will require the player to register their details (for rostering purposes
> if nothing else) and will be set at a high enough rate to prohibit large
> numbers of existing players from ducking the main membership fee. We feel
> that a provisional one-event fee of £10 is reasonable.
>

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c) new players can have a free year of eligibility

Does this run till:
12 months after first day of competition
End of season
End of calender year
Anything else

Just thought it should be cleared up,

Angie (SkuMy or whoever)

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Andy,

1 free year of eligibilty starting the day they ask for it (or the date of
the first official tournament they take part in.) I guess.

Someone could happily trundle along to non-official tournament for years and
then decide they want to try out the Indoor Nationals or the Tour at which
point they take advantage of the free year of eligibility. Its a hook to get
people try  'serious' ultimate essentially.

Two important points are:-

1. This is not available to you or I who have already played in a few (!)
official tournaments already.

2. Its only eligibilty to play - it does not mean we're giving away the
newsletter, etc for free for a year. (though this might become viable in the
future if funds allow and if it seems worthwhile)

Ben

----- Original Message -----
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>
> c) new players can have a free year of eligibility
>
> Does this run till:
> 12 months after first day of competition
> End of season
> End of calender year
> Anything else
>
> Just thought it should be cleared up,
>
> Angie (SkuMy or whoever)
>
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Dear All

Getting away from the details (sorry) - 

I think its a great idea Ben (and others) - lets make it happen

James - Milky
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 13 September 2001 18:49
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: New Association and the coed tour


Hedge & others,

You're right that visiting foreign teams shouldn't have to have to pay £10
per player per event, I've got no problem with that and I doubt anyone else
would have. Looks like I missed that issue out.

As for foreign *individuals* thats a different matter. If they're here for
just a month of so then a per tournament fee isn't going to hurt them. If
they're here for several months then they should join properly. I'm sure we
can work out some sort of compromise if they're only going to be around for
6 months.

The £10/event fee I suggested isn't by any means set in stone - it was just
that - a suggestion. Unfortunately if we lower this considerably then we run
a real risk of large numbers of UK resident players not joining which could
jeopardise the whole project.

The £10 suggested amount was deliberately high as it is not far off paying
for full membership (which we would rather people did)

Given that.....

a) students and unwaged get a large reduction
b) the eligibility requirements only apply to certain tournaments
c) new players can have a free year of eligibility
d) members get a newsletter, insurance, ISP, etc
e) student competitions will be exempt from membership requirement.

... I feel that this proposal bends over backwards to accommodate everyone.

I don't actually believe there are many people out there who only attend one
official event each year. Even if there are, they're going to get the full
range of other benefits from membership. I reckon for most people, once
they're hooked they're not going to mind

There has to be a balance struck between obtaining sufficient income and
avoiding alienating players. I *thought* the proposal achieved this but I
would be interested to hear from others who disagree

Ben

----- Original Message -----
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To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 13 September 2001 17:06
Subject: RE: New Association and the coed tour


> To everyone else who may want to point this passage out to me:
> I did read the document, but missed that bit.
>
> It'll only make me comment on it though.
> Hahaha, you can't silence the voice of insanity (surely reason..?)
>
> Anyway,
> £10 is an exorbitant amount for what is appropriately called being a
> 'guest'. If people are 'ducking the main membership fee' then they
obviously
> do not feel they get their money's worth. If 'large numbers of existing
> players' are only wanting to attend one 'official BUA event' then either
> charging them twice as much for that event (normal tournament fee divided
by
> usual number of people on a team) or getting them to become a member of
the
> BUA can hardly be called inclusive and certainly not reasonable. People
> playing as guests are exactly that, they can at most be expected to pay
some
> administration fee. It would be fair though for there to be restrictions,
> such as number of non-members on a team (exeptions for student teams..?)
and
> also number of times a person can be a guest in a year (say once or
twice).
>
> That's it for the moment (expect more to follow when I discover more
> "hidden" sections in the proposal)
>
> Hedge
>
>
> ------------
> Hedge,
>
> I think that pick-up player part of your second point is covered in
>
> Provisional Membership
> An existing player who only intends to attend one ?official? BUA event
> (e.g. a foreign guest player at a Tour event) will be offered a per-event
> Provisional Membership fee entry. The tournament director might be given a
> cut from this in order to encourage collection. This Provisional
membership
> will require the player to register their details (for rostering purposes
> if nothing else) and will be set at a high enough rate to prohibit large
> numbers of existing players from ducking the main membership fee. We feel
> that a provisional one-event fee of £10 is reasonable.
>

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Hi all students (and others)

Have just finished a website which you can find at

http://www.studentultimate.com

It is aimed at new players primarily but also at new and old student clubs. 
I've tried to put something in for everyone. This is only the second site i 
have uploaded so no abuse please but constructive critisism appreciated and 
expected!!

The aim is to direct your freshers to the site for info on the game, throws, 
training, socials, spirit etc if you think it worthy. There is also a clubs 
sections that is far from complete. Please look at the sections and send in 
info on your team so i can fill in the caps. Example of teams with most of the 
info complete are Jedi, Jesters (I added some to this!!!), No frills... so 
other clubs get your stuff to me and i'll put it up on the site.

Also get your drinking in gear as there is a three pint challenge top ten with 
no entries as yet. Once the socials start rolling please send in your best 
times for the top ten with a prize at the end of the season for the fastest.

WARNING - Only download welcome movie if you have a fast connection or Good 
Sense of Humour as it is a gag!!

A quick thanks to those who helped me, si weeks, ben and all those people who 
sent me past results for the tournament history section (found under events, 
history)If you have any more to fill in the gaps then send them to me.

Also thanks to those clubs who gave me pictures and to jon for the great 
picture on the front page.

Take a look, you might like it

Hopefully will see everyone at a tournament one day, you never know stranger 
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Arun Sharma <arun.sharma@highway-insurance.co.uk> on 09/17/2001 12:57:46 PM

To:     Hannah Easter/CRO/LIGHTING/PHILIPS@EMEA1
cc:
Subject:  Directions For the Weekend.
Classification:



To the Pitches  From the South.

Follow M1 - A1 (new link road Jct after M62) - Take the A569 junction
(Boston Spa/Tadcaster/Collingham) - Turn right at r/about towards Boston
Spa.  Take first right on this road, - Clifford Moor Road -  school is
located on right hand side 1/2 mile up road.

>From the North

A1 - Take the A569 junction (Boston Spa/Tadcaster/Collingham) - Turn right
at r/about towards Boston Spa. Take first right, Clifford Moor Road, school
is located on right hand side 1/2 mile up road.

>From Headingley

Head up Otley Road towards Skipton (away from Leeds centre) - At Lawnswood
r/about turn right - continue on ring road at the third r/about (about
5miles) turn left. - Continue straight 5-6miles, when you pass the La
Laconda Italian restaurant (on right) take the next right. Follow this road
to top where there will be another r/about/ Go under the m/way and straight
over towards Boston Spa. First right, Clifford Moor road, school 1/2 mile on
the right

Saturday Night Party

Quid Pro Quo (opposite Bibi's restaurant) - Bar on Greek Street in Town.
Ask me on the day or just go to the centre of town anyone you ask know's it.
There is a buffet laid on for those who want it.

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If anybody knows of the where abouts of either James
or Craig (both fingers 6)can they let me know.

If we don't find a Manchester Met. player soon we'll
lose our friday night training slot & we'll all be out
in the rain. However, if someone from the met could
get in contact I've arranged to sort it out on Monday
morning.

Thankyou 

Dann.



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Subject: Womens nationals - 22-23 September - and mens pick up
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Womens Nationals Info.

Teams that have not paid yet, can pay Arun on the day.
Captains meeting will be at 9am on Saturday morning. Don't be late....

I am thinking of entering a pick up team for thaose who would like to come along.
I will send directions out on e-mail to the team contacts tomorrow, and on brit disc. PLEASE forward these to your teams.

So far entered are...

BAPS - paid
Bliss - paid
JHawes -paid
BAF - paid
Feirce
Mavis - paid
DIVAloution

Maybe (checking on numbers)

Sheffield
southampton??
Pick up team.


Also if teams are struggling for numbers please can you let me know as we have a few people who would like to pick up.


cheers and see you all at the weekend

Hannah
(Bliss)

PS Any men wanting to play football or ulti this weekend in Leeds should let Arun Shama know.

cheers Hannah



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Re: World Clubs, Hawaii 2002.

If you are interested in playing with Bliss at Clubs next year, could you
please either email or telephone me by the end of September. 

Cheers,
Tara
0775 4400193

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Hi Han,

I think there will be 4-5 Oxford women looking to play.  I tried mate, I 
really tried, but it was like pulling teeth!

Love,
Em

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>From: hannah.easter@philips.com
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>CC: Arun_S@hway.co.uk
>Subject: Womens nationals - 22-23 September - and mens pick up
>Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:57:57 +0100
>
>
>
>Womens Nationals Info.
>
>Teams that have not paid yet, can pay Arun on the day.
>Captains meeting will be at 9am on Saturday morning. Don't be late....
>
>I am thinking of entering a pick up team for thaose who would like to come 
>along.
>I will send directions out on e-mail to the team contacts tomorrow, and on 
>brit disc. PLEASE forward these to your teams.
>
>So far entered are...
>
>BAPS - paid
>Bliss - paid
>JHawes -paid
>BAF - paid
>Feirce
>Mavis - paid
>DIVAloution
>
>Maybe (checking on numbers)
>
>Sheffield
>southampton??
>Pick up team.
>
>
>Also if teams are struggling for numbers please can you let me know as we 
>have a few people who would like to pick up.
>
>
>cheers and see you all at the weekend
>
>Hannah
>(Bliss)
>
>PS Any men wanting to play football or ulti this weekend in Leeds should 
>let Arun Shama know.
>
>cheers Hannah
>
>
>


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Hi Aram,U8c,

Yes tennis leagues do allow free movement between teams(at least in my
league)!!! But with the added restriction that 2 players on each team (in
this case 6 players on each team) are rostered and cannot play at all for a
lower placed team, and as the season comes to the final few weeks you cannot
swap any player to a lower placed team unless that player has played for
that lower placed team for at least a third of the seasons matches. So as
not too load teams so that they cannot be relegated etc (hope that makes
sense???)

As for your second point it didn't make any change to the outcome for this
year granted, but what about next year??? I think it would be an idea to
address this gaping loophole in the rostering system now before it becomes
an issue in the future!!!

As for the seedings to nationals I'm not too bothered about this year or any
inconvenience this may cause to the U8c (as that's their role to sort out
these complicated issues) or their liking this seeding problem, I just want
to see fair play in evidence like happened over  tour 2 and the catch 22
situation last year and how that was resolved, and I feel in this instance
the points allocation and deduction was to the wrong teams!!!

Si.b

Chevy


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From: "Flores, Aram" <aflores@lehman.COM>
To: "'Si_B2001@btinternet.com'" <si_b2001@btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings


> Si et al,
>
> Tennis leagues do not allow for unlimited movement between teams, so do
not
> make a good parallel.  Besides, if we choose to withdraw Clapham 1 to
ensure
> our seeding it would not have changed the outcome.  If we went to tour 4
as
> Clapham 2, we still would have been ranked first and won the Tour!  And,
the
> seedings for Nationals would be much less to the U8C's liking (as noted
> before).
>
> Aram
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Si_B2001@btinternet.com [SMTP:Si_B2001@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 13 September 2001 00:14
> > To: Wayne Retter
> > Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > Subject: Re: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings
> >
> > Hi Wayne and Britdisc,
> > I see things slightly differently as their "a" team (Clapham 1) finished
> > lower than their "b" team (Clapham 2) at tour 3 shouldn't their "a" team
> > be
> > withdrawn from tour 4 as if you don't have enough players for that event
> > (tour 4) the lowest placed team should have been withdrawn in this case
> > their "a" team not their "b" team
> > As I've seen this happen in other tennis leagues where 2 teams from the
> > same
> > club have been in the same league, and the supposedly higher ranked team
> > has
> > been relegated from that league, and the next year the following
suffixes
> > have remained the same so that the "d" team has ended up playing in the
> > higher division to a "c" team.
> > If this is the case then Clapham must forfeit the points for their "a"
> > team
> > and the points for tour 4 should goto their "b" team and penalties be
> > adjusted as such
> >
> > Complicated I know but that's the way I see it
> >
> > So what if Aram loaded one team at tour 3 that's your choice as members
of
> > the Clapham club to go along with it !!!
> >
> > And can I ask if each team needed a separate roster for the tour or just
> > one
> > for the club?? and will this be the same next year??? U8c discuss
> >
> > Si.b
> >
> > Chevy
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wayne Retter" <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
> > To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: Final Tour Rankings and Nationals Seedings
> >
> >
> > > >>So if Clapham 2 dropped out then why did Clapham 1 get seeded 1st
for
> > tour
> > > >4?
> > >
> > > I'd go with "Clapham Ultimate" being seeded 1 at Tour 4 because
"Clapham
> > > Ultimate" (ignore the 1 or 2 - they're geo, so can mix their teams to
> > > play first and second, or equal teams) won Tour 3.
> > >
> > > Wayne Retter
> > > Fluid Druids
> > > PS: you can seed us @ 1 if you want!
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Wayne Retter
> > > mobile: 07970-903420
> > > w.retter@bigfoot.com
> > > office: 01737-273655
> > >
> >
>
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Two spaces for British Mixed teams in Hawaii so far.  Invites will be =
issued in the following order, pending a few nagging roster =
questions/checks.

Wage/Cyrille
Chevron
Strange BLue
Randy
KUPA
Little Shef
BAF Others
BAF Prague
Aurora Borealis/Sublime Patriots
Angels


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wage/Cyrille</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chevron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Strange BLue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Randy</FONT></DIV>
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The following teams have sent cheques for Nationals and are entered:

Clapham 1
Clapham 2
Sublime (Portsmouth)
Hammerage
Headrush
BAF Open
BAF Mixed
Strange Blue
Smash and Grab
Red
Leeds
Whey
Night Fever
Jedi
Team Shark
Fluid Druids
Chevron
Mohawk Mwnci Magic

Waiting to see if there is room after the top 32 teams have entered:
Bad Habits

If your name does not appear above- you are NOT entered.  Don't send me =
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to pay for the pitches- so I'm broke and I don't want to hear about =
it....


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whey</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Night Fever</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fluid Druids</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chevron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mohawk Mwnci Magic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi.

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Sorry All if you are not Paul Kett or don't want to play Ultimate in
Birmingham.

Paul, not sure if the Uni still has a team.
We play v. close to the Uni, at King Edwards for Girls School and have a
number of students in our team.

Get into contact with me if you fancy playing indoors on wednesdays, and
fortnightly outdoor pracs through the Winter.

Mal.
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BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY 


See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates.

Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/

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13 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - UCL BEGINNERS' TOURNAMENT

Location: Regent's Park - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Actually, we have enough teams coming, but we are looking for experienced ultimate players to lend a hand in practice drills for beginners on Saturday. So if anybody is around on Saurday the 13th and would be willing to volunteer a morning/afternoon/day to help increase awareness for ultimate than your help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Erik




http://www.undercoverlovers.co.uk


Erik

Main Email: erik_at@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: london_ultimate@hotmail.com

Mobile: 07779 782913

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27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS 25TH ANNIVERSARY

Location: University of Warwick - [Other Event]


Student Event

Celebration event featuring some Ultimate and Disc Golf, with a dinner-dance on the Saturday night!

INVITATION ONLY [SORRY].


http://www.warwick.ac.uk/staff/D.P.Neilson/bears25/


Sam Neilson

20 Alexandra Court, Priory Road, Kenilworth, , CV8 1SB

Main Email: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk

Alternative Email: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01926 864 276

Work Phone: 024 7652 3880

Mobile: 07947 134 987

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27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Concorde Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Should be 16 beginners teams, 10 experienced teams.
3 pitches on Saturday, 2 on Sunday. 
£90 a team.
More details nearer the time.



http://www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate


Dave Sealy

243 Swanwick Lane, Swanwick, Southampton, , SO31 7GT

Main Email: ultimate@shef.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mea98djs@shef.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01489 575809

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03 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - EGO WANG FEST 2001

Location: Cheltenham Rec Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


16-20 Teams

Entry Fee - £95

Cheques Payable to "Blue Arse Flies"

James 'Balti' Hewitson

8 Middletons Close, Eddington, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 0HQ

Main Email: jehewitson@vizzavi.net

Alternative Email: James.Hewitson@uk.zurich.com

Mobile: 07747 844401

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03 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON MINI TOURNAMENT

Location: Southampton Uni - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

A 12 team mini tournament for two half days. Focusing on beginners tournament will be great for any fun loving ultimate players. Priority / Invites goes out to teams who played last year.



http://www.skunksultimate.co.uk/mini2001/index.htm


Andrew Feltham ( Trigger )

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Alternative Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380 678866

Work Phone: 01962815169

Mobile: 07786384009

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10 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - EDINBURGH BEGINNERS' TOURNAMENT

Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate]


HUGE indoor tournament with space for 32 teams of beginners (less than 3 months Ultimate experience) and their 'experienced' coaches.


Lindsay Cuthbertson

Flat 1F2, 6 Lauriston Gardens, Edinburgh, EH3 9HJ, 

Main Email: l.f.cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk

Home Phone: 0131 228 2359

Mobile: 07776 187819

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24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS

Location: LEEDS GRAMMAR SCHOOL - [Indoor Ultimate]


SPACES FOR 20 TEAMS
COST £95
CHEQUES PAYABLE TO LEEDS ULTIMATE 

SEND TO
LEEDS ULTIMATE
42 RICHMOND MOUNT
HEADINGLEY
LS6 1DF

LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, WEST YORKSHIRE, LS6 1DF

Main Email: asharma43@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ANOTHER 24 HOUR CHARITY TOURNAMENT

Location: Latymer Upper School, Hammersmith, London - [Indoor Ultimate]


Open for twelve teams playing twelve games each.  That gives each team 4 hours of indoor play spread over 24 hours.
The entry requirement is that each team raise at least £200 for charity.  Charity TBA - probably 'Shelter'.


Charlie Ben-Nathan

Main Email: chuckaway@aol.com

Alternative Email: cbn@latymer-upper.org

Home Phone: 020 8992 1996

Work Phone: 020 8741 1851

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - WINNER STAYS ON (INVITATIONAL)

Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate]


Invitational only

The concept is simple - Winner stays on! Want to win the tournament? Win the last game of the day.


Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

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08 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON SAVAGE 7

Location: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Date: Saturday December 8th
 
Description: The London Savage 7 will be a tournament such as the UK has never seen. An amazing venue, the challenge of a savage 7 tournament in December, and its proximity to central London all make for what promises to be the start of something special. The LS7 will be a one day tournament with 12 teams guaranteed a minimum of three games each. There will also be a mini guts tournament (5 players per side) open to those interested. There is no coed requirement. Spectators are welcomed and encouraged...its not too often you get to see ultimate played in a venue such as...
 
Venue: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre. This is a rare opportunity to play Ultimate in a 16,000 seat stadium with the last rounds under the lights. Men and women's changing rooms will be available with showers. For more information, check out www.crystalpalace.co.uk.
 
Schedule: Captains' meeting is at 8:30 AM sharp. The first round of pool play will begin at 9:00 AM sharp. The finals will start at 5:00 PM and there will be an awards ceremony in the Bar at 6:45 PM. The bar will close at 11:00 pm and there will be a late night venue recommendation in central London.
 
Teams: We ask that each team bring 7 playing members and one non-playing member if possible. We will have tournament helpers on the sidelines taking player stats during every game and we'd like the non-playing member to help them out with who is who. They will receive a tourney disc for helping out.
 
Registration: To register for this tournament email info@hammerage.com with your intent. The first 12 teams to send the registration fee via check will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament. Team registration is 165 pounds for the Ultimate tournament with guts and 140 pounds for teams who do not wish to take part in the mini guts tournament. Proceeds from the mini guts tournament will be donated to charity. These fees break down to 20 pounds per player for the Ultimate tournament and 5 pounds per player for the guts tournament. Make your check out to "Hammerage Ultimate Club" and send it via post to Ken Lambert, Ground Floor Flat, 58 Sinclair Road, London W14 0NH. 
 
Food: There is a Bar serving food and drinks within the stadium that will be open from noon until 11:00 PM. Teams will be provided with water and bananas.
 
Accommodation: There are 86 rooms in an accommodation block within the Sports Centre. These rooms are similar in price and amenities to a Travelodge. There will be players who choose to stay there on Friday night before the tourney to avoid the trip down on Saturday morning. To book a room, contact Crystal Palace at 02087767744.
 
Brought to you by Hammerage Ultimate, Regent's Park, London - www.hammerage.com
 

none


Ken Lambert

GFF 58 Sinclair Road, London, W14 0NH, , 

Main Email: info@hammerage.com

Mobile: 07900492202

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15 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SKUNKS CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT

Location: Southampton Uni - [Indoor Ultimate]





Andrew Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Alternative Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380678866

Work Phone: 01962815169

Mobile: 07786384009

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19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

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Dear all,

I know this only applies to a small percentage of BritDisc 
subscribers but I want to reach as many student women players as 
possible. Sorry to everyone else.

Over the summer it was agreed by several women from different 
university teams that it would be great to have a regional student 
women's team. Regional teams already exist but are mainly 
dominated by the male student players. Having a specific women's 
team for the region would provide an opportunity for female 
students to play and train with others at a similar level of ability as 
themselves and also get to know other women playing in their 
geographical area. We agreed that this would solve the problem 
that most university clubs face; of not having enough female 
members to have women only practices (hardly ever enough for two 
teams to play each other, even in the larger clubs) and to 
encourage women to stick with Ultimate while at uni by giving them 
more disc time and forging links with other female players.

Hopefully this will not only have the above benefits but will also help 
encourage more women to continue to play Ultimate after 
graduation and increase their standard of play. It's a big challenge, 
but we need challenges and what better time to do it than now?

If any student players in the north can forward this to the female 
players in their team, thanks, that would be great (I will then send 
them the full details).  If any other student women from other 
regions want to start their own teams (go go DIVAlution!) so that 
we have someone to play, thanks, that would be great. Anyone 
else who has any comments, questions or answers: thanks, that 
would also be great, feel free to email me them.

Thanks.

Anna
BAPS

eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk

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Geoff,

Seeing as how no-one else has commented!

Team sizes used to be smaller, particularly before the advent of the Tour.
This was mainly because it wasn't necessary to have more than about 12
players to do well, although Hombres who ruled outdoor British ultimate for
a number of years generally had a few more players.

Now to win a tour event you need to play 3 of the top sides in the country
on Saturday, beating 2 of them at least and then beat the 2 succesful teams
from the other pool in games to 17+ points (usually 19) to win.  Doing this
with less than 15 players is difficult because of the amount of energy
required to run hard for 5 games lasting up to 2 hours in 2 days.  This is
far beyond what a proffessional footballer or rugby player would be asked
to do and often leads to comments from the likes of Gerard Houllier of bias
against his team if they have to play approaching this in 12 days.

To compete at a European or World Clubs event a team must have a minimum of
12 players, with 10 available for each game or they forefiet that game.  I
think the move would be to squads of up to 20 players for major tournaments
where all the games are going to be close and only tournaments with a mix
of opposition quality allowing smaller squads to compete.

Limiting squad numbers would hurt the development in this country and put
our club teams at a disadvantage when playing abroad.

In terms of other sports, they are all moving towards our model.  Football
used to allow just 1 substitute, now in European competion the manager can
choose 3 subs out of 8 available, in Rugby subs were only allowed if the
player was medically unfit to continue now they are used as a tactical part
of the game.  Not sure of the rules in Basketball but the NBA teams seem to
have very long benches, and NFL teams choose 11? players on the pitch at
any time from a squad of about 40?

Ian Stebbing


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Subject:  Team sizes


First, and most important thanks to everyone who made last weekend go
spoothly, and thanks to everyone we played (BAF, Leeds, Clapham 2, Sharks)
after 4 months off, it was great to have another run around.

At the end of a season, I thought now was a reasonable time to make a point
that I have been thinking about for a while.  And bear in mind while
reading
this, that it does come from someone who has played in a team of ten all
weekend and can now hardly walk let alone run.

It seems to me that it would make sense to limit the size of squads that
teams can bring to tournaments, or at least limit the size of teams that
they can play for a particular match during a tournament.

In this way we would first bring our sport in line with almost every other
sport I can think of (almost all sports have a limited bench).  On top of
that, and much more importantly, it would encourage athleticism in the
players, something that we are all very proud that Ultimate requires, and
also encourage all round playing ability in everyone that plays.  Gone will
be the days when players like me who have only made 15 completed passes in
the past season (and all of these have been backwards)can still get into
teams as purely a D player, and along with that, players who can huck it
the
length of the pitch, but can't keep up on D will have a harder time making
it at the top level.

Just my feelings, and some that I know have a degree of support.  As to the
number we should limit to, 15 would be my idea, but I'm quite sure that
decision will not be mine!

personal replies welcomed,

GEOFF (soon to be axed from Fusion for offencive inadequacies)
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<P>Dear Organiser</P>
<P>I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds fantastic. A great venue and well organised.</P>
<P>However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As a female player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you. I've been told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this tournament and therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament seriously' and therefore don't want women on the team.</P>
<P>I could enter a women's team, but paying £20 for three games against such competition would not be that much fun. </P>
<P>I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women play serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing on a team when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can tournament directors consider more co-ed regulations?</P>
<P>Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to organise a tournament myself.</P>
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I've moved the photos I took at the weekend to another web site, as the 
geocities one seemed unreliable.

So if you didn't see them before, have a look here:-

http://www.jonsphotos.org.uk/ultimate/nationals/index.html

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Whilst I agree with your sentiments in principal, what I think you are
saying is that you are unhappy that this will be an all mens event.
When
have any men complained about the fact that women organise
tournaments purely for themselves?

Sean (Druids.  The only top 4 team to have a women playing for them)


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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
Disclaimer: I waited 2 days for someone else to reply but none of you
did....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>

Dave,

This penalty shoot-out thing sounds like a reasonable idea, and one the new
Director of Competitions should possibly look into. But surely it would just
make far more sense to have Nationals earlier in the year, and surely that
should be a higher priority for the DoC? That way we can play the game we
all know and love instead of the farcical piece of watersport theatre that
was Sunday's final. And it happens pretty much every Nationals as far as I
can remember. Weather like that brings both teams down to a similar level of
chump-like ineptitude: the crowd were deprived of their spectacle and our
first team was deprived the chance of giving Chevron another Prague-style
spanking in front of the home crowd. 

>Ruined as a spectacle by the weather, the game trundled to a not
inevitable, but certainly 
>highly probable conclusion as Clapham won by scoring the sudden death point
downwind.

Were you playing in the same game we were? It was an exciting game to play
in and until Chevron were lucky enough to get the second upwinder it looked
far more likely that Clapham had done enough to earn the win without going
to sudden death, despite the ridiculous conditions and going a break down
very early on. We were repeatedly threatening to score upwind (and would
have scored more but for a questionable call or two <ahem!>) whereas you
guys were struggling to get the disk off your own endzone line apart from
the 2 lucky breaks you scored with. 

More to the point: why on earth did you let us play downwind offence to
start with if that made our victory highly probable or inevitable? You won
the toss!!!! Were we the only ones to realise that a gale force wind and
rain coming down at 45 degrees along the pitch might just mean it was going
to be a really upwind/downwind kind of game and therefore any team should
choose to start with the wind? I'd be careful of your feet if any of your
lot are ever left in charge of firearms....

Let me just add the hopefully obvious disclaimer that this mail is purely
about putting the record straight and in no way at all should be construed
as happiness at having kicked your northern arses all over the pitch again
this season, especially when you bleat so much for roster rule changes to
prevent us running two teams like we do, point deductions against our A not
B team, and sudden death rule changes. Have you asked the BUF for a
"Northern teams to get a 4 point lead because of poor diets" rule yet? 

Kind regards, 
The Silver Bear

'Clean Sweep' Clapham



-----Original Message-----
From: David Grayson [mailto:D.Grayson@psych.york.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 October 2001 10:19
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Sudden Death


Just to bring another end of season thought to Britdisc.  I'm sure most 
people would agree that this years Nationals final was a bit of an 
anticlimax to a good tournament.  Ruined as a spectacle by the weather, the 
game trundled to a not inevitable, but certainly highly probable conclusion 
as Clapham won by scoring the sudden death point downwind.  4 points had 
been scored upwind - a fine effort in my opinion - compared with 22 
downwind.  As we hit sudden death, despite everyones best efforts, the 
crowd did not feel much anticipation of an exciting finish.  To be fair 
many perhaps couldn't feel their feet either but the point remains.

What is interesting is that had this scenario occured at the World Games in 
Japan this year, the contest would have been settled penalty shoot out 
style.  My understanding is that each team would have had one posession at 
scoring one way, then the same in the other direction, and so on until one 
team scored their posession and the other team didn't.

Had this been the finish, then we would have had the situation where both 
teams would actually have to attempt to score without a turnover - i.e. not 
simply huck and chase downwind and it would have been potentially much more 
exciting.  It may even have answered some of the critics who were 
apparently saying "gee these 2 teams aren't even very good at playing 
downwind".  But probably not.

I think this sounds a good way of settling a game should it get to sudden 
death and would be happy if it was made the norm in Ultimate.  Anyone know 
how it was received in Japan or if there is any suggestion of adopting it 
at World level?

Let me just add the hopefully obvious disclaimer that this is in no way 
sour grapes at having lost the final.  Congratulations to Clapham on 
drawing 2-2 with us...

Dave.
Chevron.


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Hi I am looking for a little advice,

my AU has asked me to submit a 5 year development for
our Ultimate club.  As of yet I have scraped together
a few ambitions which will keep them amused and put
across the fact that we deserve a little more respect
than we get at the moment.  

I was wondering whether other people have had to do
similar things in the past and if so would you mind
throwing a few ideas my way?

response would be much appreciated, regards,

Matt 
Pres. Durham Ultimate

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Ooooh. Okay I'll bite a bit.

Sorry Roger. You seem to have, purely accidentally of course, missed the
point of my message. Of course it is daft to have Nationals 2 months after
the last meaningful tournament of the year, I have often wondered why and
the only answer I ever remember was that it used to be in November so think
yourself lucky.

The point I was making was simply that had the final taken place in the
World Games then whatever the weather it would have been settled by sudden
death penalty shoot out style and it struck me that it might have made it
more interesting or exciting. [cue obvious line - "no, it wouldn't have
got to sudden death as we would have whipped your asses, ho ho ho" -
thought I'd save you the trouble]. It only occured to me afterwards that
one of the added advantages of the system would be for wind assisted games
such as this years final.

It was not an attempt to change the rules, or even a suggestion to do
so. It was a question about whether anyone knew if the sudden death rule
as used at World games went down well and if it was likely to be suggested
to be brought in by WFDF who I presume sanctioned the World Games
competition? I thought it was an interesting thought and worthy of
discussion but clearly I am the only individual in British Ultimate sad
enough to think so and so shall consequently return to my incredibly dull
life to contemplate other issues.

As for the attempted flame war - ya de ya de ya, I'm afraid even I find
that boring.

Dave.

Apologies for using britdisc other than to ask for a phone number or to
rent a room



At 17:26 10/10/01 +0100, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
>Disclaimer: I waited 2 days for someone else to reply but none of you
>did....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
>
>Dave,
>
>This penalty shoot-out thing sounds like a reasonable idea, and one the new
>Director of Competitions should possibly look into. But surely it would just
>make far more sense to have Nationals earlier in the year, and surely that
>should be a higher priority for the DoC? That way we can play the game we
>all know and love instead of the farcical piece of watersport theatre that
>was Sunday's final. And it happens pretty much every Nationals as far as I
>can remember. Weather like that brings both teams down to a similar level of
>chump-like ineptitude: the crowd were deprived of their spectacle and our
>first team was deprived the chance of giving Chevron another Prague-style
>spanking in front of the home crowd.
>
> >Ruined as a spectacle by the weather, the game trundled to a not
>inevitable, but certainly
> >highly probable conclusion as Clapham won by scoring the sudden death point
>downwind.
>
>Were you playing in the same game we were? It was an exciting game to play
>in and until Chevron were lucky enough to get the second upwinder it looked
>far more likely that Clapham had done enough to earn the win without going
>to sudden death, despite the ridiculous conditions and going a break down
>very early on. We were repeatedly threatening to score upwind (and would
>have scored more but for a questionable call or two <ahem!>) whereas you
>guys were struggling to get the disk off your own endzone line apart from
>the 2 lucky breaks you scored with.
>
>More to the point: why on earth did you let us play downwind offence to
>start with if that made our victory highly probable or inevitable? You won
>the toss!!!! Were we the only ones to realise that a gale force wind and
>rain coming down at 45 degrees along the pitch might just mean it was going
>to be a really upwind/downwind kind of game and therefore any team should
>choose to start with the wind? I'd be careful of your feet if any of your
>lot are ever left in charge of firearms....
>
>Let me just add the hopefully obvious disclaimer that this mail is purely
>about putting the record straight and in no way at all should be construed
>as happiness at having kicked your northern arses all over the pitch again
>this season, especially when you bleat so much for roster rule changes to
>prevent us running two teams like we do, point deductions against our A not
>B team, and sudden death rule changes. Have you asked the BUF for a
>"Northern teams to get a 4 point lead because of poor diets" rule yet?
>
>Kind regards,
>The Silver Bear
>
>'Clean Sweep' Clapham
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Grayson [mailto:D.Grayson@psych.york.ac.uk]
>Sent: 08 October 2001 10:19
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Sudden Death
>
>
>Just to bring another end of season thought to Britdisc.  I'm sure most
>people would agree that this years Nationals final was a bit of an
>anticlimax to a good tournament.  Ruined as a spectacle by the weather, the
>game trundled to a not inevitable, but certainly highly probable conclusion
>as Clapham won by scoring the sudden death point downwind.  4 points had
>been scored upwind - a fine effort in my opinion - compared with 22
>downwind.  As we hit sudden death, despite everyones best efforts, the
>crowd did not feel much anticipation of an exciting finish.  To be fair
>many perhaps couldn't feel their feet either but the point remains.
>
>What is interesting is that had this scenario occured at the World Games in
>Japan this year, the contest would have been settled penalty shoot out
>style.  My understanding is that each team would have had one posession at
>scoring one way, then the same in the other direction, and so on until one
>team scored their posession and the other team didn't.
>
>Had this been the finish, then we would have had the situation where both
>teams would actually have to attempt to score without a turnover - i.e. not
>simply huck and chase downwind and it would have been potentially much more
>exciting.  It may even have answered some of the critics who were
>apparently saying "gee these 2 teams aren't even very good at playing
>downwind".  But probably not.
>
>I think this sounds a good way of settling a game should it get to sudden
>death and would be happy if it was made the norm in Ultimate.  Anyone know
>how it was received in Japan or if there is any suggestion of adopting it
>at World level?
>
>Let me just add the hopefully obvious disclaimer that this is in no way
>sour grapes at having lost the final.  Congratulations to Clapham on
>drawing 2-2 with us...
>
>Dave.
>Chevron.
>
>
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Sorry to cluter up inboxes. Can Colin from Hammerage please contact me as I don't have your mail address.</DIV>
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Newport Indoor Tournament, 19+20 January 2002

The entry fee for Newport 2002 is GBP 90.00
Cheques should be payable to "Fluid Druids Ultimate Club"

and mailed to the following address: 
        Newport Indoor Tournament
        c/o Wayne Retter
        8 Avon House
        Rutland Close
        Redhill
        Surrey
        RH1 1EH

we will also require as much as possible of the following information: 

Team Name:
Contact Name:
Contact Address:
Home phone:
Home Email:
Work Phone:
Work Email: 

We will then confirm receipt of your entry.

If you're particularly worried about its whereabouts, Wayne can be
contacted:
phone: 01737-218489
email: contact@fluiddruids.com

No entries will be confirmed until cheques AND contact details have been
received - "the cheque's in the mail" is a nice line, but won't help! 

We only have room for 16 teams. 

2nd teams: entries for second (or a second, but equal...) teams will not
be allowed until 01 January 2000. Any such cheques/details received
before this date will be held until then before being put onto the
entrants list. 

We'll be playing all day Saturday (9am to 9pm) and most of Sunday (9am
to 6pm) 

You will need to find your own accommodation - we can provide none;
Newport has several B&Bs, and a Travelodge not too far away.

There is no planned evening event. 

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Thanks to Wayne + Others for highlighting a problem viewing the site with 
non-IE browsers, hopefully the links will now work ok:-

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Dear All,

I have to say that I can see Beccas point. I realise that men like to play top competition tournaments which for them tends to mean against other men, but I think as the co-ed tour this year proved, you can play top level ultimate with women on the team.
I think women could really enjoy this tournament but as Becca has suggested it is quite difficult to sort out being on a team.

Not whining as I probably wont play this tournament but jumping on the bandwagon anyway

Hannah ( Bliss)


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Whilst I agree with your sentiments in principal, what I think you are
saying is that you are unhappy that this will be an all mens event.
When
have any men complained about the fact that women organise
tournaments purely for themselves?

Sean (Druids.  The only top 4 team to have a women playing for them)






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Indoors Schmindoors! In a bid to keep outdoor ultimate alive over the winter
Clapham Ultimate, the Fluid Druids, TeamShark and Smash & Grab are delighted
to bring you the 'London Winter League'.

There will be 5 or 6 one day tournaments in the London Winter League: 2
before Christmas and 3 or 4 afterwards. Each event will have 6 or 8 teams
attending so that we can play sensible formats - switching between pools
with one crossover game or direct knockout or 'double elimination',
depending on the number and quality of teams attending, the weather and whim
of the founder team captains. We'd like to get 8 teams as often as possible
to give as many London teams as we can a chance to participate and we're
also happy to receive entry applications from teams outside London who want
to maintain some competetive contact with the real game.

1st date Sunday 28th October. We know it clashes with the Warwick Bears
reunion but there were no other dates.
2nd date Sunday 25th November. We know it clashes with Leeds Indoors but you
make your choices in life.

Scoring mechanism for Grand Prix points accumulation (still being finalised
and debated but won't change too much):
10 points for every game win, plus the goal difference accumulated in that
game. Goal difference points to be doubled in the semifinals (and/or 3rd/4th
play-offs) and quadrupled in the final.  

Finals Day:
The top finishing teams will be invited to another one day event at the end
of the winter season for an all action finale. In order not to discourage
teams which may miss 1 or 2 events we may take the best 3 or 4 results, to
be finalised by the founder team captains at some later date.

Relegation, Waiting Lists and Qualification:
Given we *may* have more than 8 teams interested, and to spice up the
action, we'd like to introduce the concept of relegation and qualification.
If we have an 8 team tournament any teams finishing in the bottom 2
non-founder teams *may* be relegated out of the next event if sufficient
teams want to enter the next event. Consultation with the fouder team
captains will decide how teams will be allowed to play back in -> either
through seeding, our desire for the best competition at these events, some
kind of qualifying game, random chance or a waiting list.

Price:
To be somewhere in the region of £30 per team per event to cover marked
pitches and other tournie stuff. There will be prizes  and other silliness
as ideas roll in (feel free to submit!).

Other points:
1/ Games to one hour or 13 probably as we've got to squeeze in 3 or 4 a day
each depending on format.
2/ We'll play the penalty shoot-out format ending in the event of a tie. For
a bit of a change, excitement, to try it out - and so that Chevron might
come down and give it a go. We may well play some of the events with other
trial rules - like the 'Callahan goal' (suggested by Wayne), where catching
an opposition pass in their zone is a goal for your team; or the 2 point
rule if behind halfway.
3/ We will have a bad weather cancellation process in case of extremely poor
weather. Rain and wind is not extremely bad weather though. All of us have
played big games at Worlds in wind and rain - and practice in those
conditions is important (and fun).
5/ Myself, Wayne, Milky and Nolan constitute the 'London Winter League
Committee' and all our decisions are final and binding. Even if we decide to
give a team bonus points for playing in wetsuits or something similarly
stupid.
6/ Milky from TeamShark has suggested we should move venue and play some in
Oxford, some in Eastbourne. But London is so nicely central for 90% of the
constituency - I'm not saying we're completely averse, but the rest of the
committee will need some persuading: this on ice for now.

Whaddya fink? Are you interested? Let me know if your team would like to
enter either of the pre-Christmas dates. Reply quick as there aren't alot of
places going and first come first served may apply where we can't decide
between teams.

The Silver Bear

Clapham Ultimate #1

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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Great argument Sean!!!! The female players in this country are soooooo selfish organising their own tournaments!!!! The Savage tournie is not men's only, it's Open.</DIV>
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<DIV>The point I was trying to make is Open tournaments make it really hard for women to find teams and compete fairly at a high level. If you want a tournament to have mixed teams I think it is a good idea to specify the split. </DIV>
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<DIV>If not, fine, have an Open tournament, I totally appreciate why people, including myself, like playing single sex Ultimate. However, maybe a women's division should be offered at these tournaments AND the final should be played on the top field before the Open final.</DIV>
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<DIV>The Savage tournie, because of field and time restrictions was probably not a good example - my apologies.</DIV>
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<DIV>Nuff said, I'll stop filling your inboxes.</DIV>
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<DIV>Becca</DIV><BR>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Whilst I agree with your sentiments in principal, what I think you are 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;saying is that you are unhappy that this will be an all mens event. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;When 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;have any men complained about the fact that women organise 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;tournaments purely for themselves? 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sean (Druids. The only top 4 team to have a women playing for them) 
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BD,

Apologies for the delay in getting back to all those teams that wanted =
to
play at Ego Wang...

1. We currently have requests for places from 25 teams (See Below) and =
are
looking into seeing whether we can shuffle the schedule around to
accomodate you all

2. Despite our best efforts it looks like we will be unable to provide
accomodation to any except the most deserving teams (the Dutch players
getting first refusal) so I would suggest you ALL start looking into
alternatives - We'll send a B&B list out to all the teams that get one =
of
the available slots when they are confirmed:

Current Interested Teams:
- BAF
- BAF Too
- Mexican Horse Bandits
- LCF (NL)
- Fusion
- Whiplash
- Strange Blue
- Bears x2
- Angels x2
- Flyght Club
- Slipdisc
- Space Monkeys
- Oasis
- Venom
- Far Flung
- Kamaya Maya
- Yo Mama
- Hammerage
- Mwnci See
- The Airforce
- Bad Habits
- Red
- No Frills

Balti
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Ego Wang Fest 2001 (Indoor Ultimate) - November 3rd/4th

Venue: Cheltenham Rec Centre
Entry Fee: =A395
Space for 16-20 teams

Cheques payable to "Blue Arse Flies" sent to:

James 'Balti' Hewitson
8 Middletons Close
Eddington
Hungerford
Berkshire
RG17 0HQ

Please include contact details with the cheque so we can send you some
"useful" info when your entry is confirmed...

Balti
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Nah, Becca, it's alright.  We talk about this all the time in Oxford and 
yeah, it seems that people like to play on same sex teams unless they're 
specifically playing in a co-ed tour event. I have specific thoughts about 
that but they're not relevant to my point here. That said, my feeling is 
that when there are tournaments like the savage seven that are clearly meant 
to be fun...raise a little money, play at a big venue, see how hard you are 
in december, have a big party on the saturday night, then playing 5-2 is a 
great idea.  It gets more people out there and gives the women a chance to 
play more than women's indoor nationals and a couple international 
tournaments during the winter.  It doesn't lower the standard as women mark 
up on women and men on men. Good players that work together make a good 
team, regardless of gender.
It's good to have this kind of stuff on britdisc, thanks for bringing it 
up...Roger was starting to bore me.  ;-)  Hi Pies.

Emily
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>From: "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>
>To: sean.holden@framestore.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London
>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:18:24 +0100
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Great argument Sean!!!! The female players in this country are soooooo selfish organising their own tournaments!!!! The Savage tournie is not men's only, it's Open.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The point I was trying to make is Open tournaments make it really hard for women to find teams and compete fairly at a high level. If you want a tournament to have mixed teams I think it is a good idea to specify the split. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If not, fine, have an Open tournament, I totally appreciate why people, including myself, like playing single sex Ultimate. However, maybe a women's division should be offered at these tournaments AND the final should be played on the top field before the Open final.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The Savage tournie, because of field and time restrictions was probably not a good example - my apologies.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nuff said, I'll stop filling your inboxes.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Becca</DIV><BR>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Sean Holden" <SEAN.HOLDEN@FRAMESTORE.CO.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Whilst I agree with your sentiments in principal, what I think you are
<DIV></DIV>&gt;saying is that you are unhappy that this will be an all mens event.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;When
<DIV></DIV>&gt;have any men complained about the fact that women organise
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;
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Britdisc,

I have alot of sympathy with Rebecca's and Hannah's points.  My first real
taste of ultimate was playing in Melbourne for a year.  Most Australians
play 'coed', with the only 'open' league found in Sydney (where it is one
of 7 others).  Coed in Australia means 2 women minimum on the pitch at any
time.  It was a shock to come back to the uk and find how male orientated
we are here.

The coed tour is the right step forward - but I agree that it would be
good to see other tournaments and events which encoarage mixed teams.
(Particularly so when you are trying to get newcomers into the game and
the title of 'National coed tour' tends to imply commitment more serious
than they think they want to make)  I apprechaite that this is a difficult
additional stipulation for tournament organisers when their first aim is
to get the largest number of teams interested to get the event off the
ground.

All this message says is that there are some of us out here who want to
support moves to some kind of coed tournaments (even if it is only a 2-5
ratio).  Ultimately any message like this is open the reply - 'well get
off your own arse and do something'.  You'd be right mate.

Ben
(Who's been saving up his pennies)
Matha and the Mootones

On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Rebecca Humphries wrote:

>
> Dear Organiser
>
> I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds fantastic. A
> great venue and well organised.
>
> However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As a
> female player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with
> you. I've been told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this
> tournament and therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament
> seriously' and therefore don't want women on the team.
>
> I could enter a women's team, but paying £20 for three games against such
> competition would not be that much fun.
>
> I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women play
> serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing on a
> team when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can
> tournament directors consider more co-ed regulations?
>
> Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to
> organise a tournament myself.
>
> Becca
>
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Well its taken quite a long time - in fact so long that they all seem to
have grown beards ...
but CONGRATULATIONS to the ex-Leeds boys for getting their team on the
front page of
the Daily Mirror today (11 October 2001)!

Maybe the beards are simple disguises to avoid the inevitable autograph
hunters ...
but I'm pretty sure that I can still pick out Si Hill.

Can anyone put names to the other faces?

Cheers

Sam Neilson

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Thanks to all participants over the weekend I hope you all enjoyed
yourselves.

Finishing Positions
1. Clapham 1
2. Chevron Action Flash
3. LeedsLeedsLeeds
4. Fluid Druids
5. TeamShark
6. Fusion 1
7. Red
8. Clapham 2
9. Whey
10. Blue Arse Flies Open
11. Smash & Grab
12. Headrush
13. Hammerage
14. NightFever (Spirit Winners)
15. Un Poco Loco
16. Strange Blue
17. Craic
18. Bad Habits
19. Blue Arse Flies Mixed
20. Flyght Club
21. Jedi
22. Sublime
23. Confusion
24. Albatross
25. Mohawk Mwnci Magic
26. Northern Roses

Unfortunately neither of us got to see many of the games so there is no
report.

Nancy and Ian Stebbing
Tournament Directors

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Sean,
 
If this is the tournament I have heard people chatting about, it sounds
pretty exciting and I too would love to be a part of it. Did I get the
impression from Becca's last mail that there is no opportunity of holding a
co-ed division? I'm sure there are quite a few women who would love to be
involved.
 
Maria

-----Original Message-----
From: Rebecca Humphries [mailto:beccahumphries@hotmail.com]
Sent: 11 October 2001 10:18 AM
To: sean.holden@framestore.co.uk; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London


Great argument Sean!!!! The female players in this country are soooooo
selfish organising their own tournaments!!!! The Savage tournie is not men's
only, it's Open.
 
The point I was trying to make is Open tournaments make it really hard for
women to find teams and compete fairly at a high level. If you want a
tournament to have mixed teams I think it is a good idea to specify the
split. 
 
If not, fine, have an Open tournament, I totally appreciate why people,
including myself, like playing single sex Ultimate. However, maybe a women's
division should be offered at these tournaments AND the final should be
played on the top field before the Open final.
 
The Savage tournie, because of field and time restrictions was probably not
a good example - my apologies.
 
Nuff said, I'll stop filling your inboxes.
 
Becca

 
>From: "Sean Holden" 
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
>Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London 
>Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:01:37 +0100 
> 
>Whilst I agree with your sentiments in principal, what I think you are 
>saying is that you are unhappy that this will be an all mens event. 
>When 
>have any men complained about the fact that women organise 
>tournaments purely for themselves? 
> 
>Sean (Druids. The only top 4 team to have a women playing for them) 
> 
> 

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Having followed this discussion I'm somewhat surprised at some of the
reactions. Something I'd like to know is, are tournament organisers going to
get this kind of grief each time they organise an open tournament?

VITO
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On
Behalf Of Rebecca Humphries
  Sent: 10 October 2001 16:35
  To: info@hammerage.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
  Subject: Savage Tournie London


  Dear Organiser

  I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds fantastic. A
great venue and well organised.

  However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As a
female player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you.
I've been told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this
tournament and therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament seriously'
and therefore don't want women on the team.

  I could enter a women's team, but paying £20 for three games against such
competition would not be that much fun.

  I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women play
serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing on a
team when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can
tournament directors consider more co-ed regulations?

  Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to
organise a tournament myself.

  Becca










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This seems like such a good idea suddenly,
Becca, Emily & Hannah hopefully will appreciate this.

We have booked a Sports Hall in Nottingham for a Womens event for w.e 1/2 
December 2001.
2 days, about 75 squid per team, party Saturday nite, accomodation -
ample.  would of course like to see 16 teams willing.

Please mail me asap, if you think you can enter a team. 
Please put in your email some indication of probability of your team
making it, ie a percentage.  just in case.

Good luck girls.

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Wanna play a HAT tourny?

Saturday 20th October, Clifton Campus Sports Hall.
9 till 5.

please email me and let me know the expected numbers (approximate is
fine) just so i can arrange a decent schedule.

We are looking at some Saturday nite entertainment.
Accomodation can be arranged.
Practices as usual on Sunday.

Ahhaaahhhh The Cost

a mere £5.00 per players.

Bring your beginners, Bring your fogeys, an excellent opportunity for some fun.

Sam
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Vito.

Of course not!  No one is begrudging open/men's tournaments in general. It 
just seems that this one is more of a FUN tournament than a lead up to 
nationals or worlds or an opportunity for whole teams to train together 
before something big and there doesn't really seem to be a reason why it 
couldn't be co-ed to expand the game a bit and let everyone join in the fun. 
  Becca was just enquiring ( i think)and asking future tourney organisers to 
perhaps bear it in mind that there are women out there who play well and 
would like to play more often.

relax.

Becca, I'm out, they're all yours!  ;-)

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>From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com>
>Reply-To: <avitali@ptc.com>
>To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: Savage Tournie London
>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:46:31 +0100
>
>Having followed this discussion I'm somewhat surprised at some of the
>reactions. Something I'd like to know is, are tournament organisers going 
>to
>get this kind of grief each time they organise an open tournament?
>
>VITO
>Adriano Vitali
>PTC Technical Support
>http://www.ptc.com
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk 
>[mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On
>Behalf Of Rebecca Humphries
>   Sent: 10 October 2001 16:35
>   To: info@hammerage.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>   Subject: Savage Tournie London
>
>
>   Dear Organiser
>
>   I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds fantastic. A
>great venue and well organised.
>
>   However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As a
>female player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you.
>I've been told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this
>tournament and therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament seriously'
>and therefore don't want women on the team.
>
>   I could enter a women's team, but paying £20 for three games against 
>such
>competition would not be that much fun.
>
>   I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women play
>serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing on a
>team when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can
>tournament directors consider more co-ed regulations?
>
>   Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to
>organise a tournament myself.
>
>   Becca
>
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I've got a list of potential dates for an Outdoor venue.

What's the news on a DoC/Competitions Committee to co-ordinate next
years season?

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Maybe I'm being a bit over-sensitive here, but I have to say that I find the
mail posted below tasteless as best.

Please let me know if I'm in the minority here and I'll quite happily
unsubscribe.

Chris
----- Original Message -----
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> Well its taken quite a long time - in fact so long that they all seem to
> have grown beards ...
> but CONGRATULATIONS to the ex-Leeds boys for getting their team on the
> front page of
> the Daily Mirror today (11 October 2001)!
>
> Maybe the beards are simple disguises to avoid the inevitable autograph
> hunters ...
> but I'm pretty sure that I can still pick out Si Hill.
>
> Can anyone put names to the other faces?
>
> Cheers
>
> Sam Neilson
>

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I actually found it quite amusing.  It's nice to get a bit of relief from 
endless media coverage and all the strains of dealing with the situation we 
find ourselves in.

Don't unsubscribe, just take a deep breath and lighten up.

Best wishes from someone living very close to a major US air force base and 
feeling a bit nervous! ... not to mention someone who knows a number of 
people who are still missing in NY ...

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From: "Chris White" <penguins@hove42.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:19:08 +0100

Maybe I'm being a bit over-sensitive here, but I have to say that I find the
mail posted below tasteless as best.

Please let me know if I'm in the minority here and I'll quite happily
unsubscribe.

Chris
----- Original Message -----
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 > Well its taken quite a long time - in fact so long that they all seem to
 > have grown beards ...
 > but CONGRATULATIONS to the ex-Leeds boys for getting their team on the
 > front page of
 > the Daily Mirror today (11 October 2001)!
 >
 > Maybe the beards are simple disguises to avoid the inevitable autograph
 > hunters ...
 > but I'm pretty sure that I can still pick out Si Hill.
 >
 > Can anyone put names to the other faces?
 >
 > Cheers
 >
 > Sam Neilson
 >



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Attachments don't work on Britdisc? 

ok.

For anyone interested, heres the details;


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Vito,

I think you should just take this as an idea session. No one is criticising it would just have been nice to be able to play, so maybe in the future this may be able to be taken into consideration. It is just ideas....

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Having followed this discussion I'm somewhat surprised at some of the reactions. Something I'd like to know is, are tournament organisers going to get this kind of grief each time they organise an open tournament?

VITO


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     -----Original Message-----
     From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Rebecca Humphries
     Sent: 10 October 2001 16:35
     To: info@hammerage.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
     Subject: Savage Tournie London



     Dear Organiser


     I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds fantastic. A great venue and well organised.


     However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As a female player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you. I've been told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this tournament and therefore other guys
     are 'taking this tournament seriously' and therefore don't want women on the team.


     I could enter a women's team, but paying £20 for three games against such competition would not be that much fun.


     I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women play serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing on a team when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can tournament directors consider more
     co-ed regulations?


     Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to organise a tournament myself.


     Becca








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Becca has made a very valid point here. When we decided to do this tourney
and came up with the concept we dismissed the co-ed option too easily. This
was a mistake and as the tournament director I accept responsibility and
apologise for.

As the tournament is almost full already, it is too late to fix the mistake
this year, but I have no problem committing to making the savage 7 co-ed
next year and supporting Beccas statement that tournament directors do have
a responsibility to the women players in the UK.

Ken Lambert


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Rebecca Humphries [mailto:beccahumphries@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 4:35 PM
  To: info@ hammerage.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
  Subject: Savage Tournie London


  Dear Organiser

  I've been reading about your Savage tournie - which sounds fantastic. A
great venue and well organised.

  However, it's a shame that it is not a co-ed tournie 2-5 split. As a
female player, it is really hard to find teams that want to play with you.
I've been told that Clapham are entering at least two teams to this
tournament and therefore other guys are 'taking this tournament seriously'
and therefore don't want women on the team.

  I could enter a women's team, but paying £20 for three games against such
competition would not be that much fun.

  I've sent this to Britdisc to have a bit of a rant really - women play
serious ultimate and it's rude to consider us only worthy of playing on a
team when you're not bothered about winning the tournament. Please can
tournament directors consider more co-ed regulations?

  Feel free to abuse me for being a whinging hag and to bugger off to
organise a tournament myself.

  Becca










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I'm with Helen here. Lighten up.
I think you'll find that Sammy was joking at the coincidence of the name
Catch 22 not that they resembled a bunch of alledged terrorists (although
thre bloke second from the bottom on the right could have been Larry!).

Max
? 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 11 October 2001 19:19
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Maybe I'm being a bit over-sensitive here, but I have to say that I find the
mail posted below tasteless as best.

Please let me know if I'm in the minority here and I'll quite happily
unsubscribe.

Chris
----- Original Message -----
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To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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> Well its taken quite a long time - in fact so long that they all seem to
> have grown beards ...
> but CONGRATULATIONS to the ex-Leeds boys for getting their team on the
> front page of
> the Daily Mirror today (11 October 2001)!
>
> Maybe the beards are simple disguises to avoid the inevitable autograph
> hunters ...
> but I'm pretty sure that I can still pick out Si Hill.
>
> Can anyone put names to the other faces?
>
> Cheers
>
> Sam Neilson
>

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Morning BD,

Many thanks to all those teams that have sent me their entry fees for Edinburgh 
Beginners'.  If any teams have yet to send money, deadline for receipt of 
cheques will be a week today (Friday 19th October).

We've had a huge response this year, so many of the teams that have requested 
two entries will only be allowed one.  Sorry!!  We'd have made the tournament 
bigger, but the pesky weekend just keeps on being only two days long.

I'll put up a list of teams at the end of next week.

By the way, apologies if I seem to be ignoring any e-mails: my other account 
and I have been having......disagreements.  This address, however, is a pretty 
safe bet.

Lindsay
RSB

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British Ultimate Federation AGM 2001
October 6th - Staverton Conference Centre, Daventry

MEETING STARTED: 19:22

PRESENT:-

Chris Hughes
Ben Ravilious
Ian Stebbing
Barry O’Kane
Wayne Retter
Tim Blair
Sam Rey
Tom Hopkins
Nicole Atkinson
Christian Nistri
Hannah Easter
Tom Styles


1.	PROPOSAL TO FORM THE PLAYERS ASSOCIATION

Votes for: 44
Votes against: 0

2.	ASSOCIATION CONSTITUTION

Votes for: 50
Votes against: 0

NB: Items 1 & 2 included results of the postal/email vote. 

3.	ASSOCIATION NAME

The choice of ‘British’ or ‘UK’ in the name was discussed. It was unanimously agreed that ‘UK’ was preferable as it encompassed Northern Ireland. The name ‘UK Ultimate’ was decided upon as a succinct and descriptive name which avoided using an acronym.

4.	TIMETABLE

Because we do not currently have contact with all UK players it was agreed that we would give anyone who wanted the chance to vote. The only requirement was for registrants to specify which team they play for.

Deadlines:-

19th Oct: 	Candidates to register their interest
		Players to register for voting and to receive special Ultimatum issue

29th Oct: 	Players to return their votes by post or via website

3rd Nov:	Announcement of board of directors at Cheltenham tournament. 


5.	ANY OTHER BUSINESS

World Clubs 2002, Hawaii requirements: All nominated teams will be required to provide a non-refundable deposit of £750 to the association by November 15th. This is to deter loss of UK places due to teams pulling out late. Any lost deposits to be used to fund other WUCC 2002 attendees at the discretion of the board.

Caretaking the BUF: The current BUF officers agreed to continue running the BUF until the election of the UK Ultimate board of directors on 3rd November.


Meeting Ended: 19:50

Ben Ravilious
Secretary


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Dear all,

Please spread the word to as many players as possible....

Visit http://www.ukultimate.com/vote.asp to register to vote in the election of the board of directors of UK Ultimate.

Everyone who registers will be sent a special issue of Ultimatum magazine.

Thanks

Ben Ravilious
Caretaker Secretary
UK Ultimate

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Dear All,

This is a request for candidates for directorships on the board of UK Ultimate.

Four of the directors have specific roles, namely President, Treasurer, Secretary & Director of Competitions. The remaining seven (maximum) are 'without portfolio'.

The duty of the board is to govern and manage the association. The directors will have responsibilities for decision making and leadership but will not automatically be required to do all the work. Directors are free to appoint or employ other officers to assist them where necessary.

Ideally the board of directors should be a team of people from varying backgrounds in the ultimate community who can co-operate to develop the sport for the benefit of everyone who plays.

If you have a vision for the future of the sport which you would like to promote then you should consider standing as a director. If you have particular experience or a particular skill which may be of use to UK Ultimate then consider becoming a director or volunteering to help the board.

More details of the roles are described at the end of this email. Please don't hesitate to ask us for more information.

Thanks

Ben Ravilious
Caretaker Secretary
UK Ultimate


Job descriptions (from the consititution):-

PRESIDENT. The President shall be the chair of the Board of Directors and shall preside at all meetings of the Board. The President shall be the chief executive officer of the association and may be authorised by the Board to enter into or execute and deliver any instrument in the name of and on behalf of the association. The President shall have the casting vote in any decisions where the board is equally divided. 

SECRETARY. The Secretary shall oversee all communication within the association and all correspondence directed to the association. He or she will ensure that all notices are duly given in accordance with the provisions of this constitution or as required by law. He or she shall keep the minutes of the meetings of the Board of Directors. He or she will retain and make publicly available all documents constituting the rules and regulations of the association which members are bound by.

TREASURER. The Treasurer shall have the care and custody of all the funds and securities of the Association and shall deposit all such funds in the name of the Association in such bank or trust company as the Board of Directors may elect. He or she shall keep an account of all monies received and expended for use of the Association, and shall sign all cheques, drafts, notes and orders for the payment of money authorised by the Board of Directors. The Treasurer shall also negotiate all financial transactions on behalf of the Association at the direction of the Board. The Board may, in its sole discretion, authorise the Treasurer to make such payments as may be customary and normal in the ordinary course of business. The Board must approve all extraordinary disbursements. The Treasurer shall present a report on the financial affairs of the Association to the AGM and the Board of Directors.

DIRECTOR OF COMPETITIONS. The Director of Competitions shall be responsible for the sanctioning of all Association competitions. He or she shall co-ordinate all official association competitions and shall consider the needs of all divisions of the sport.

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Ken/Sean,

I have no agenda in this instance (shyeah right!!), like I said I heard a
few people talking about this particular tournament and playing savage in a
stadium sounds completely kick ass... congrats to whoever thought up the
idea. 

It seems obvious to me, though, that if you are going to organise a savage
tournament for the top twelve teams and not make it compulsory co-ed, no
team is going to willingly invite women to play as, in most instances, it
will obviously weaken their squad. (No offence meant, ladies) So... it's a
twelve team tournament right? Well why not make each team play with one
woman, I bet there are twelve keen ladies out there. That way everyone's a
winner. If it is not possible this year then there is always next time
round.

Maria

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Holden [mailto:sean.holden@framestore.co.uk]
Sent: 11 October 2001 6:35 PM
To: Cahill,Maria
Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London


Not my tournament, can't make that decision.  I was just surprised with
the reaction.  I can understand that it is hard for women.  My point was
just that how do you think women would react if there was a men only
tournament?  I realise that this tournament wasn't intended for this and
that it does appear to be going down that road, but there are women
only tournaments that occur, albeit not often, and it looked like the
problem here is that this tournament has become men only.  So, are we
only allowed womens/coed/open tournaments?  Maybe I came over
incorrectly.  I wasn't trying to offend, just raise an opposing view.

Sean


"Cahill,Maria" wrote:

> Sean,
>
> If this is the tournament I have heard people chatting about, it sounds
> pretty exciting and I too would love to be a part of it. Did I get the
> impression from Becca's last mail that there is no opportunity of holding
a
> co-ed division? I'm sure there are quite a few women who would love to be
> involved.
>
> Maria
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rebecca Humphries [mailto:beccahumphries@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 11 October 2001 10:18 AM
> To: sean.holden@framestore.co.uk; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London
>
> Great argument Sean!!!! The female players in this country are soooooo
> selfish organising their own tournaments!!!! The Savage tournie is not
men's
> only, it's Open.
>
> The point I was trying to make is Open tournaments make it really hard for
> women to find teams and compete fairly at a high level. If you want a
> tournament to have mixed teams I think it is a good idea to specify the
> split.
>
> If not, fine, have an Open tournament, I totally appreciate why people,
> including myself, like playing single sex Ultimate. However, maybe a
women's
> division should be offered at these tournaments AND the final should be
> played on the top field before the Open final.
>
> The Savage tournie, because of field and time restrictions was probably
not
> a good example - my apologies.
>
> Nuff said, I'll stop filling your inboxes.
>
> Becca
>
>
> >From: "Sean Holden"
> >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> >Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London
> >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:01:37 +0100
> >
> >Whilst I agree with your sentiments in principal, what I think you are
> >saying is that you are unhappy that this will be an all mens event.
> >When
> >have any men complained about the fact that women organise
> >tournaments purely for themselves?
> >
> >Sean (Druids. The only top 4 team to have a women playing for them)
> >
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk  Mon Oct 15 08:48:44 2001
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all,

just a quick word of thanks from the entire Irish ultm8 community for your
hospitality last weekend at UK Nationals - in particular the efforts of
Nancy, Chris, and everyone we played.

Irish ultm8 is undergoing something of a transitionary period at the moment,
and we're making intense efforts to recruit players and improve ourselves.
obviously competition is a vital step to achieving this, and even though
only  a severely depleted squad made the trip to Daventry the value of the
exercise is not to be underestimated.  we are hoping to attend more UK
tournaments in 2002, and again wish to thank you all for your encouragement.

unfortunately we lost to BAF this weekend.  this was the only game we lost
on UK soil over the entire season, and had we have finished undefeated we
were preparing to issue a stern challenge to Clapham to take us on in
Dublin.

thanks again, and watch this space for forthcoming announcements regarding
the annual Dublin tournie early 2002.

chris

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Dear All,

Loughborough is going to be the host for the Midlands Student Qualifiers
this year. The dates are the 1st and 2nd of December. The cost is £90 per
team. Send to the address at the bottom. 

We have huge facilities as anyone who went last year will testify. This
year we have an extra hall as well! This means that we have capacity for 32
teams, with 25 minute games. Longer later in the tournament.

There is a student section for all student teams. First come, first serve.
There is also an ex-student section. This will be run as a separate
tournament. Purple Haze, Jesters and Fish are going to put up an old
players team. If you think that you might be able to get an ex-student team
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Hi UKUltimate
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Save yourself all those floor burns and hours of waiting: someone's
superceded indoors ultimate:
 http://www.virtualfrisbee.co.uk/play/play.htm

There is at least one place left to be filled for the London Winter League
on the 28th October. Roll up roll up.

Cheers all,
Roger





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Subject: Re: Ego Wang Fest 2001
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All,

Quick correction...

There's actually 25 teams on the main list below - "No Frills" are actually
the first team on the reserve list rather than the last team on the main
list - Apologies

Balti
BAF 34


                                                                                                                
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All,

Ego Wang was once again massively oversubscribed BUT we've managing to
extend the hall booking and shuffle the schedule around to accomodate 24
rather than the originally planned 16 teams -  Despite this we've still had
to make tough decisions on who gets in and who doesn't.

Apologies to all those teams who didn't make it onto the "main" list but I
expect some of the student teams to drop out if our continued search for
cheap accomodation proves fruitless - so watch this space....

Can those teams on the main list please let me know where they think they
should be seeded (1-4, 5-8, 9-16, 17-24)

Ego Wang Teams - Main List
01   BAF
02   BAF Too
03   LCF
04   Whiplash
05   Fusion
06   Mexican Horse Bandits
07   TeamShark
07   Slipdisc
08   Strange Blue
09   Mild Mannered Janitors
10   Bears 1
11   Angels 1
12   Nightfever
13   Space Monkeys
14   Oasis
15   Venom
16   Fly TNT
17   Far Flung
18   Kamaya Maya
19   Hammerage
20   Mwnci See
21   Red
22   Yo Mama
23   Bad Habits
24   No Frills

Ego Wang Teams - Reserve List
a    Angels 2
b    Bears 2
c    STD
d    No Frills 2

Balti
BAF 34



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All,

Ego Wang was once again massively oversubscribed BUT we've managing to
extend the hall booking and shuffle the schedule around to accomodate 24
rather than the originally planned 16 teams -  Despite this we've still had
to make tough decisions on who gets in and who doesn't.

Apologies to all those teams who didn't make it onto the "main" list but I
expect some of the student teams to drop out if our continued search for
cheap accomodation proves fruitless - so watch this space....

Can those teams on the main list please let me know where they think they
should be seeded (1-4, 5-8, 9-16, 17-24)

Ego Wang Teams - Main List
01   BAF
02   BAF Too
03   LCF
04   Whiplash
05   Fusion
06   Mexican Horse Bandits
07   TeamShark
07   Slipdisc
08   Strange Blue
09   Mild Mannered Janitors
10   Bears 1
11   Angels 1
12   Nightfever
13   Space Monkeys
14   Oasis
15   Venom
16   Fly TNT
17   Far Flung
18   Kamaya Maya
19   Hammerage
20   Mwnci See
21   Red
22   Yo Mama
23   Bad Habits
24   No Frills

Ego Wang Teams - Reserve List
a    Angels 2
b    Bears 2
c    STD
d    No Frills 2

Balti
BAF 34

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For what it's worth, there's been an annual (open) Savage Seven tournament
in Germany for many years, and I played in September 2000 for German outdoor
champs Feldrenner (namedrop).  Yes it was hard work, as expected, 11x30
minute games (plus Guts) over two days, not helped by +30 C temperatures,
but it was noticeable that, just like in all regular fun tournaments here,
pretty much every one of the 14 teams played with at least one woman.
That's just how it is, no rule about it.  

For the record, we were beaten in the final (sudden death, gah!) by Kleine
Feiglinge, who played the whole weekend with 2 women.  They also won the
Guts competition, with the women also featuring heavily.

Hope the London thing works out for you all, women too.

Cheers
your German correspondent
Wayne
Team 42 


-----Original Message-----
From: Cahill,Maria [mailto:Maria.Cahill@uk.gases.boc.com]
Sent: Freitag, 12. Oktober 2001 23:39
To: Sean Holden; 'info@hammerage.com'; 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'
Subject: RE: Savage Tournie London


Ken/Sean,

I have no agenda in this instance (shyeah right!!), like I said I heard a
few people talking about this particular tournament and playing savage in a
stadium sounds completely kick ass... congrats to whoever thought up the
idea. 

It seems obvious to me, though, that if you are going to organise a savage
tournament for the top twelve teams and not make it compulsory co-ed, no
team is going to willingly invite women to play as, in most instances, it
will obviously weaken their squad. (No offence meant, ladies) So... it's a
twelve team tournament right? Well why not make each team play with one
woman, I bet there are twelve keen ladies out there. That way everyone's a
winner. If it is not possible this year then there is always next time
round.

Maria

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Holden [mailto:sean.holden@framestore.co.uk]
Sent: 11 October 2001 6:35 PM
To: Cahill,Maria
Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London


Not my tournament, can't make that decision.  I was just surprised with
the reaction.  I can understand that it is hard for women.  My point was
just that how do you think women would react if there was a men only
tournament?  I realise that this tournament wasn't intended for this and
that it does appear to be going down that road, but there are women
only tournaments that occur, albeit not often, and it looked like the
problem here is that this tournament has become men only.  So, are we
only allowed womens/coed/open tournaments?  Maybe I came over
incorrectly.  I wasn't trying to offend, just raise an opposing view.

Sean


"Cahill,Maria" wrote:

> Sean,
>
> If this is the tournament I have heard people chatting about, it sounds
> pretty exciting and I too would love to be a part of it. Did I get the
> impression from Becca's last mail that there is no opportunity of holding
a
> co-ed division? I'm sure there are quite a few women who would love to be
> involved.
>
> Maria
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rebecca Humphries [mailto:beccahumphries@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 11 October 2001 10:18 AM
> To: sean.holden@framestore.co.uk; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London
>
> Great argument Sean!!!! The female players in this country are soooooo
> selfish organising their own tournaments!!!! The Savage tournie is not
men's
> only, it's Open.
>
> The point I was trying to make is Open tournaments make it really hard for
> women to find teams and compete fairly at a high level. If you want a
> tournament to have mixed teams I think it is a good idea to specify the
> split.
>
> If not, fine, have an Open tournament, I totally appreciate why people,
> including myself, like playing single sex Ultimate. However, maybe a
women's
> division should be offered at these tournaments AND the final should be
> played on the top field before the Open final.
>
> The Savage tournie, because of field and time restrictions was probably
not
> a good example - my apologies.
>
> Nuff said, I'll stop filling your inboxes.
>
> Becca
>
>
> >From: "Sean Holden"
> >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> >Subject: Re: Savage Tournie London
> >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:01:37 +0100
> >
> >Whilst I agree with your sentiments in principal, what I think you are
> >saying is that you are unhappy that this will be an all mens event.
> >When
> >have any men complained about the fact that women organise
> >tournaments purely for themselves?
> >
> >Sean (Druids. The only top 4 team to have a women playing for them)
> >
> >
>
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27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS 25TH ANNIVERSARY

Location: University of Warwick - [Other Event]


Student Event

Celebration event featuring some Ultimate and Disc Golf, with a dinner-dance on the Saturday night!

INVITATION ONLY [SORRY].


http://www.warwick.ac.uk/staff/D.P.Neilson/bears25/


Sam Neilson

20 Alexandra Court, Priory Road, Kenilworth, , CV8 1SB

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27 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT

Location: Concorde Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Should be 16 beginners teams, 10 experienced teams.
3 pitches on Saturday, 2 on Sunday. 
£90 a team.
More details nearer the time.



http://www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate


Dave Sealy

243 Swanwick Lane, Swanwick, Southampton, , SO31 7GT

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Alternative Email: mea98djs@shef.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01489 575809

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03 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - EGO WANG FEST 2001

Location: Cheltenham Rec Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


16-20 Teams

Entry Fee - £95

Cheques Payable to "Blue Arse Flies"

James 'Balti' Hewitson

8 Middletons Close, Eddington, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 0HQ

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03 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON MINI TOURNAMENT

Location: Southampton Uni - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

A 12 team mini tournament for two half days. Focusing on beginners tournament will be great for any fun loving ultimate players. Priority / Invites goes out to teams who played last year.



http://www.skunksultimate.co.uk/mini2001/index.htm


Andrew Feltham ( Trigger )

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Alternative Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380 678866

Work Phone: 01962815169

Mobile: 07786384009

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10 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - EDINBURGH BEGINNERS' TOURNAMENT

Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate]


HUGE indoor tournament with space for 32 teams of beginners (less than 3 months Ultimate experience) and their 'experienced' coaches.


Lindsay Cuthbertson

Flat 1F2, 6 Lauriston Gardens, Edinburgh, EH3 9HJ, 

Main Email: l.f.cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk

Home Phone: 0131 228 2359

Mobile: 07776 187819

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24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS

Location: LEEDS GRAMMAR SCHOOL - [Indoor Ultimate]


SPACES FOR 20 TEAMS
COST £95
CHEQUES PAYABLE TO LEEDS ULTIMATE 

SEND TO
LEEDS ULTIMATE
42 RICHMOND MOUNT
HEADINGLEY
LS6 1DF

LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, WEST YORKSHIRE, LS6 1DF

Main Email: asharma43@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - MIDLANDS STUDENT QUALIFIERS

Location: Loughborough University - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Loughborough is the host for the Midlands Student Qualifiers for the second year running. Amazing facilities. 4 halls. Huge union party. Room for 32 teams. Ex - student division as well. Purple Haze, Jesters, Fish already interested. Anyone welcome.


http://www.uniservity.net/club_homepage.asp?clubid=995


Luke Smith

55 William St, Loughborough, Leics, , LE11 3BX

Main Email: L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01509 560121

Mobile: 07754 531706

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM FEMME FEST

Location: Clifton Campus, Nottingham - [Indoor Ultimate]


All Women and Femme Teams are invited to enter a Womens' competition.
Accomodation available, party on the Saturday Nite.
Cost is probably £75, Please contact asap if you feel you can enter a team or would like to pickup.
16 Teams places available
If we fill it, I can arrange a discount, so no messing around.
Support Us so we can Support You



http://pending


sam

62a Nottingham Road, Basford, Nottingham, , NG7 7AH

Main Email: shark@flyghtclub.com

Alternative Email: xxxx@flyghtclub.com

Mobile: 07866 336643

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ANOTHER 24 HOUR CHARITY TOURNAMENT

Location: Latymer Upper School, Hammersmith, London - [Indoor Ultimate]


Open for twelve teams playing twelve games each.  That gives each team 4 hours of indoor play spread over 24 hours.
The entry requirement is that each team raise at least £200 for charity.  Charity TBA - probably 'Shelter'.


Charlie Ben-Nathan

Main Email: chuckaway@aol.com

Alternative Email: cbn@latymer-upper.org

Home Phone: 020 8992 1996

Work Phone: 020 8741 1851

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - WINNER STAYS ON (INVITATIONAL)

Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate]


Invitational only

The concept is simple - Winner stays on! Want to win the tournament? Win the last game of the day.


Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

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08 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON SAVAGE 7

Location: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Date: Saturday December 8th
 
Description: The London Savage 7 will be a tournament such as the UK has never seen. An amazing venue, the challenge of a savage 7 tournament in December, and its proximity to central London all make for what promises to be the start of something special. The LS7 will be a one day tournament with 12 teams guaranteed a minimum of three games each. There will also be a mini guts tournament (5 players per side) open to those interested. There is no coed requirement. Spectators are welcomed and encouraged...its not too often you get to see ultimate played in a venue such as...
 
Venue: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre. This is a rare opportunity to play Ultimate in a 16,000 seat stadium with the last rounds under the lights. Men and women's changing rooms will be available with showers. For more information, check out www.crystalpalace.co.uk.
 
Schedule: Captains' meeting is at 8:30 AM sharp. The first round of pool play will begin at 9:00 AM sharp. The finals will start at 5:00 PM and there will be an awards ceremony in the Bar at 6:45 PM. The bar will close at 11:00 pm and there will be a late night venue recommendation in central London.
 
Teams: We ask that each team bring 7 playing members and one non-playing member if possible. We will have tournament helpers on the sidelines taking player stats during every game and we'd like the non-playing member to help them out with who is who. They will receive a tourney disc for helping out.
 
Registration: To register for this tournament email info@hammerage.com with your intent. The first 12 teams to send the registration fee via check will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament. Team registration is 165 pounds for the Ultimate tournament with guts and 140 pounds for teams who do not wish to take part in the mini guts tournament. Proceeds from the mini guts tournament will be donated to charity. These fees break down to 20 pounds per player for the Ultimate tournament and 5 pounds per player for the guts tournament. Make your check out to "Hammerage Ultimate Club" and send it via post to Ken Lambert, Ground Floor Flat, 58 Sinclair Road, London W14 0NH. 
 
Food: There is a Bar serving food and drinks within the stadium that will be open from noon until 11:00 PM. Teams will be provided with water and bananas.
 
Accommodation: There are 86 rooms in an accommodation block within the Sports Centre. These rooms are similar in price and amenities to a Travelodge. There will be players who choose to stay there on Friday night before the tourney to avoid the trip down on Saturday morning. To book a room, contact Crystal Palace at 02087767744.
 
Brought to you by Hammerage Ultimate, Regent's Park, London - www.hammerage.com
 

none


Ken Lambert

GFF 58 Sinclair Road, London, W14 0NH, , 

Main Email: info@hammerage.com

Mobile: 07900492202

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15 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SKUNKS CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT

Location: Southampton Uni - [Indoor Ultimate]





Andrew Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Alternative Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380678866

Work Phone: 01962815169

Mobile: 07786384009

____________________________________________________________


19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

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26 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS TOURNAMENT

Location: University of Warwick - [Indoor Ultimate]


Come and join us for another excellent Bears tournament in our clubs 25th year. We have space for 16 teams costing £95 per team. More information nearer the time. 


Mike 'JD' Dodd

Flat 23 Hurst Residence, University of Warwick, , , CV4 7AL

Main Email: esuqo@csv.warwick.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mikejdodd@yahoo.com

Mobile: 07855596639

____________________________________________________________




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HI

Sorry to bother britdisc with a personal question - but it is Ultimate 
related, so I don't think I'm pushing it too far...

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good physiotherapist in 
London (central or North ideally) who might be good with a) Ultimate related 
injuries and/or b) knees.  After 2 tournaments where I have had to sit out 
games (or whole days) from knee problems I have decided to seek professional 
advice.
(kinda feels like tendonitis - doesn't hurt while running but when I stop 
its sore and then gets worse after sitting down - any activity esp. stairs 
in the following weeks makes it sore again - if anyone has specific 
experience with this, do get in touch).

So if you do know of someone, please let me know on:
justin_parkhurst@hotmail.com

Cheers

-Justin
BAF Open (not that you'd know if from how little I've been able to play from 
this damn thing...)

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Alright folks,

at Euros we had Jester's palmtop ultimate thing, it
gives you total passes/drops and defensive ratings and
stuff. 

Does anyone have a copy of the program and can they
send it to me? We need some team analysis here in the
Weedj.

I'd ask jester but he seems to have gone bust.

Cheers,

Bryce 
Farflung, Glasgow uni ultimate

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Bust? H'way and shite, Brycie, I'm very much alive and kicking. :)

Anyone who wants to download this tidy wee app can do so from 
http://www.moshpit.org/pilot/

Bes*
Jes*




>From: Bryce <the_boy_racer@yahoo.com>
>
>Alright folks,
>
>at Euros we had Jester's palmtop ultimate thing, it
>gives you total passes/drops and defensive ratings and
>stuff.
>
>Does anyone have a copy of the program and can they
>send it to me? We need some team analysis here in the
>Weedj.
>
>I'd ask jester but he seems to have gone bust.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bryce
>Farflung, Glasgow uni ultimate
>

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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>hi i`m tommaso, an italian student here in england (canterbury) till the fourteenth of november.</DIV>
<DIV>i`d love to go to any ultimate frisbee tournament before i leave the country.</DIV>
<DIV>i have just&nbsp;one year of ulti experience. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;if any team needs an extra player for a tournament, i`d really be glad to have a chance to join them.</DIV>
<DIV>thank you </DIV>
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Subject: Re: London Physio?
From: john purdie <jb58@dial.pipex.com>
To: Justin Parkhurst <justin_parkhurst@hotmail.com>,
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Justin

try Lynne Bryden / Rosemary Keer

0973 335072  /  02072674222  / 02074865238

north London - Maida Vale/St Johns Wood/Belsize Park

i have used these people many times and referred many people to them -
excellent manipulative physios - Lynne certainly should know about Ultimate
now!

However, if you want a sports doctor / good orthop' surgeon try Colin Crosby
02082030111 (beware, he is not cheap!) - otherwise give our very own Dr Paul
Marfleet a call - wk 01206 570 371 (this was my last number for him)

good luck

ttfn John Purdie

> From: "Justin Parkhurst" <justin_parkhurst@hotmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:40:15 +0000
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: London Physio?
> 
> HI
> 
> Sorry to bother britdisc with a personal question - but it is Ultimate
> related, so I don't think I'm pushing it too far...
> 
> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good physiotherapist in
> London (central or North ideally) who might be good with a) Ultimate related
> injuries and/or b) knees.  After 2 tournaments where I have had to sit out
> games (or whole days) from knee problems I have decided to seek professional
> advice.
> (kinda feels like tendonitis - doesn't hurt while running but when I stop
> its sore and then gets worse after sitting down - any activity esp. stairs
> in the following weeks makes it sore again - if anyone has specific
> experience with this, do get in touch).
> 
> So if you do know of someone, please let me know on:
> justin_parkhurst@hotmail.com
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -Justin
> BAF Open (not that you'd know if from how little I've been able to play from
> this damn thing...)
> 
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The Nottingham Indoor HAT tournament UPDATE!!
Saturday 20th October, Clifton Campus Sports Hall.
12 till 5.

The tournament start time has changed to be high noon. 
That's 12pm til 5pm.  The reason for this is that
having done the schedule for the estimated number of
teams vs. having two pitches we realised that dragging
people out of bed early in the morning wasn't necessary.

Sooo....

Again it should be a great time....

DJ Tom Styles presiding 
Food and Drinks available on site...

Party planned afterwards for all players at our
local It's a Scream with drinks deals galore.

If you fancy a little competition practice to
work the cobwebs out of your bones before the
indoor season really hits then we'll see you there.

Oh yeah...£5 a head. I wish it could be free.


-----Original Message-----
From: samanir@breathe.com [mailto:samanir@breathe.com]
Sent: 11 October 2001 18:11
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Nottingham Indoor HAT


Wanna play a HAT tourny?

Saturday 20th October, Clifton Campus Sports Hall.
9 till 5.

please email me and let me know the expected numbers (approximate is
fine) just so i can arrange a decent schedule.

We are looking at some Saturday nite entertainment.
Accomodation can be arranged.
Practices as usual on Sunday.

Ahhaaahhhh The Cost

a mere £5.00 per players.

Bring your beginners, Bring your fogeys, an excellent opportunity for some fun.

Sam
Shark@FlyghtClub.com



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Sorry for using britdisc in this way... please could kevin lowe call me this 
weekend.

Chris Berry

"I married Miss Right," conceded Harry. "I just didn’t know her first name 
was Always."


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The following teams have secured places at the 1st event on Sunday 28th
October; on the basis that they were the first to apply, and on the basis
that they're the strongest teams on Nationals rankings:

Clapham 1
Druids
TeamShark
Clapham 2
Smash & Grab
Hammerage
NightFever
Badhabits

Please could the captains of these teams who have been mailing me send a
confirmatory email ASAP (also confirming you want to play at the 2nd event).
Final seedings will be dictated by how Clapham decide to split their squad.
Format and other details will be circulated next week. Expect games to start
on Clapham Common at 10 or 11am. We are making progress on the pitch
markings and should have 3 permanently marked pitches in time and all winter
- provided Paul Hurt can bully the council into moving faster than their
accustomed glacier pace. Cost will be £30/team regardless, no need to send
cheques - please bring £££'s on the day. 

Very sorry, the following two teams also applied but unfortunately we don't
have space to cater for them:
Imperial College Discdoctors
Cloudthings

Please could the captains of these two teams confirm that they would still
like to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November. We will decide very
soon whether there will be some form of one-off qualification game against
the relegated teams, whether you will get a slot due to having been on the
waiting list, or some mixture of the two. Rest assured there will be
relegation of AT LEAST one team and one of you, if not both, will get the
chance to play in November: the bottom teams in the League really do have
something to play for! 

Any other teams wanting to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November are
still welcome to apply, please do so before the deadline of Sunday 28th
October.

Pick-up players or ringers please contact the team captains directly. There
are no roster rules, and some of the teams will probably appreciate quality
ringers because of missing players. 

!!! Does anyone have scoreboards we could borrow please? Would make the
whole thing look a little more organised..!!! While I'm on that subject
doesn't someone have a word doc about how to be a Tournament Director and
formats and things? Might be helpful. Thanks.

Comments/Questions/Amusing ideas to me at this address.

Kind regards,
Roger

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Don't mean to make this into a rant, but I think it's worth reminding
people that there is a way to contact BritDisc subscribers without
mailing the 700 odd other people on the list.

To get a list of BD subscribed e-mail addresses, send a mail to
majordomo@warwick.ac.uk with the command
who britdisc
in the body of the e-mail.  Under a minute later, you'll receive a list
of everyone subscribed to britdisc, and most people have transparent
enough email addresses to be found using any kind of search function.

Just a thought ;)

-- 
Rich, Jedi
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The directions to the tournament next weekend are on our website.  
(Follow the Beginners tournament link on the left hand side.)

www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate

Any problems accessing the file email me and I'll send you a copy 
direct as it's a Word document (It works everywhere I've tried it but 
you never know!)

I still need to know accomodation numbers, we have very limited 
space on Friday as most of our members are going out.  So if 
you're coming on Friday email ASAP.

I'll try and put first game times out by Wednesday.

Cheers,
Dave
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Visit our website at www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate

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Dear Rich
 
As well as sending the 'who britdisc' command to the majordomo@warwick.ac.uk
<mailto:majordomo@warwick.ac.uk>  address, it also works if you send it to
the britdisc address, except that with the latter method you get a personal
message from each person telling you how stupid you are. Neat!
 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=79060208-22102001>Dear 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=79060208-22102001>As well as sending 
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it also works if you send it to the britdisc address, except that with the 
latter method you get a personal message from&nbsp;each person&nbsp;telling you 
how stupid you are. Neat!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Hi All,

On Mon 15th Oct, "Raphael Buelens" wrote:

>Is it possible to get a daily digest of britdisc 
> messages rather than all the individual messages?  
> If so, could you please explain how or set it up for me?

Of course there is: it's called britdisc-daily and it's a yahoogroup.

To s ubscribe to it, simply send an email to:

britdisc-daily-s ubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
(NB you must remove the space between the 's' and the 'ubscribe', 
and you don't have to write anything in the email cos it's an 
automated system)  

You'll receive a confirmation email, and then (once confirmed) an 
introductory mail with more details, followed by the new digest 
once a day. You can then happily uns ubscribe from Britdisc and 
wave goodbye to 15 emails a day asking for the email addresses of 
Afghani terrorists or whatever.

Alternatively, goto http://groups.yahoo.com/group/britdisc-daily/ 
and follow the joining instructions from there.

I would appreciate it if team captains / chairpeople could pass this
message onto the various team email lists that abound, as I think this
service may appeal to some people who currently are not s ubscribed to
Britdisc.

Please note this service does not replace Britdisc, and people cannot post
directly to the daily version (all postings still have to go through
Britdisc itself).

Any queries, feel free to drop me a line,
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Hey there, BD,

The Edinburgh Beginners' Tournament is now full, and the team list runs like 
this:

RSB 1
RSB 2
Jedi 1
Jedi 2
Posh Disc
Far Flung 1
Far Flung 2
Strange Blue
Flatball 1
Flatball 2
Hulltimate
OW!
YBK
Phat 'Eds
Fish
Drugstore Cowboys
UCD
Purple Haze
Positive Mojo
Boogie Knights
Jesters
Revolve
Fingers 6
Flaming Monkeys
Shooting Stars
Northern Lights
Mohawks
Mwnci See
RCS, Ireland
UWE
Stirling
Bradford

1st 5 reserve teams:
Hulltimate 2
YBK 2
Phat 'Eds 2
Fish 2
Drugstore Cowboys 2

Would all teams please e-mail me with numbers of players, so that we can find 
you a nice floor to sleep on.

Please note that if a team pulls out within one week of the tournament they may 
be fined some of their entry fee.

Sorry to those that asked for second teams that we couldn't fit in.  You can 
pick up spare cheques from me at the tournament.  For those that sent me a 
single cheque for both teams (cheeky!) the easiest thing (for me : ) to do will 
be for us to cash the whole cheque and give you a refund when you come up.  If 
this presents a problem, just let me know.

Just as a reminder, teams will play with four beginners and one 
experienced 'coach' on the pitch at any one time.  Coaches must wear some kind 
of headgear to distinguish themselves ('best hat' prize to be awarded) and 
cannot score.

Directions will be posted on Britdisc closer to the event.  Any 
problems/questions/abuse about mistakes, let me know (e-mail here or phone/text 
07776 187819).

Lindsay
Ro-Sham-Bo

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> As well as sending the 'who britdisc' command to the majordomo@warwick.ac.uk
> <mailto:majordomo@warwick.ac.uk>  address, it also works if you send it to
> the britdisc address, except that with the latter method you get a personal
> message from each person telling you how stupid you are. Neat!

Marvellous.  How many people exactly flamed you?  If I was feeling
particularly bored, I might even be tempted to try naming some of them.
Can't help thinking Ralf should be up there ;)

Sorry again for the misunderstanding caused by my poor explanation.

--
Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk	Tel: 07968248529
www.leedsjedi.co.uk

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Wotcha Linds

> Jedi 1
> Jedi 2

Excellent.  Was worried we were gonna be one of the teams with only one
beginners allocated.  Can you just remind me whether I sent you three
cheques or not?  And presumably, you'll be cashing the two some time
over the next week?

> Would all teams please e-mail me with numbers of players, so that we can find
> you a nice floor to sleep on.

Given that I've got 21 people begging me to let them go, I can
confidently predict that we'll be sending at least 16.

> Directions will be posted on Britdisc closer to the event.  Any
> problems/questions/abuse about mistakes, let me know (e-mail here or phone/text
> 07776 187819).

Presumably it's at Meadowbanks again?  I think most of our lot know
their way there by now, you've been hosting this marvellous tournament
so long ;)

Thanx again,
-- 
Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk	Tel: 07968248529
www.leedsjedi.co.uk

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Just like to give a quick thanks to verybody who made
the trip to the Nottingham hat event on saturday. We
had a wicked day with what was only a reasonable
turnout, but i think/hope a good time was had by all.
The winners were Zade's team, discsluts, and the
winner of the
hit-dan's-bare-arse-from-quite-a-distance-with-a-frisbee
prize was Trent's own Olly G.

Thanks again

Dan
flyTNT/flyghtclub

ps. lost property: 1 sky blue & dark blue women's all
weather columbia jacket. any takers? please drop me a line.

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>Presumably it's at Meadowbanks again?  I think most of our lot know
>their way there by now

If most of your lot know their way there, they'll surely no longer be
beginners ?

I therefore assume that they're going to cheer-lead and teach the new
recruits to drink beer :)

Not trying to start an argument, just being observant...

Wayne



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All,

Apologies to all those on Britdisc not interested in Ego Wang...


Ego Wang Fest Accommodation

Unfortunately it looks unlikely we'll be able to provide any free
accomodation but if you take a look at:

www.visitcheltenham.gov.uk

... you might find something useful. It'll take you into an accomodation
search engine. However they have been very sneaky - a lot of the hotels and
guest houses include single rooms priced at sensible amounts so that the
hotel appears if you want a cheap room. Then when you get to their page
they have no single rooms at £18 but you can book a double for £55. Clever.

Suggestions - Hunter lodge (Race course) - £13.50 per person in rooms of
four.

Also teams can consider hiring a self catering unit, usually a house, for
the weekend. Prices are from £150 per week for four - maybe players can do
some sort of deal for a weekend and bung people on the floor. Also worth
checking the special offers page.

Ego Wang Fest Teams - Updated List

N.B. Can those teams on the main list which are still to pay please confirm
that they wish to attend by the end of this week otherwise I shall allocate
their spot to one of the reserve teams

N.B. Those teams marked with a * symbol still need to confirm their
expected seeding

01   BAF
02   BAF Too
03   Whiplash
04   Fission* (TO PAY)
05   Mexican Horse Bandits
06   TeamShark
07   Slipdisc*
08   Strange Blue*
09   Mild Mannered Janitors
10   Bears 1
11   Rhapsody Angels*
12   Nightfever
13   Space Monkeys
14   Oasis
15   Venom*
16   Fly TNT
17   Kamaya Maya
18   Hammerage
18   Mwnci See
20   Red* (TO PAY)
21   Yo Mama*
22   Bad Habits
23   No Frills* (TO PAY)
24   Destiny Angels*

Reserves:
a    Bears 2 (PAID)
b    STD
c    No Frills 2
d    The Airforce (PAID)
e    Canterbury

Withdrawals:
- LCF
- FarFlung

Balti
BAF 34

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Women Women Women.

We have realised as you may have, that the planned Women’s Tourny in
Nottingham clashes with the Student Regionals.  Some people don’t mind
this and others need their women players for teams at the Qualifiers.

The competition will still be going ahead, but we would appreciate it if
you could let us know which w.end you prefer.  There is only one
alternative date available.

1 & 2nd December 2001
or
8 & 9th December 2001

Please let me know your preferences by the end of the week and we’ll set
the date by whichever is most popular.  

Please note, if you prefer 8/9th then please remember that this may mean
2 events on 2 consecutive w.ends.

Thanks for your time

Sam


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Dear all,

In this email:-

1. List of candidates
2. Postponement of election
3. Registration opportunity extended

1. The list of all 15 candidates is attached at the bottom of this email.
Feel free to contact them directly or question them on Britdisc. If you are
not on Britdisc visit www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp for susbscription
instructions.

2. Due to a delay in getting Ultimatum magazine printed we will postpone the
deadline for voting to Friday 9th of November. The planned meeting at
Cheltenham has also been postponed. Ultimatum plus the voting form should
not arrive the in middle of next week.

3. The postponement of the election gives more time for players to register.
So far we have had 472 people register but there are a lot more people out
there. Please spread the word amongst your team mates. Final deadline is
Friday (26th Oct).

Thanks

Ben Ravilious
Caretaker Secretary
UK Ultimate



LIST OF CANDIDATES:-

Adam Batchelor (Without Portfolio) adam.batchelor@virgin.net
Managing Director and owner of The Raceway Group (Indoor Karting Centres)
employing 60+ staff opened in 1993. Chairman of the National Kartin
Association the governing body of pro karting and sit on the Motor
Activities Training Council and the HSE Joint Advisory Committee for
Karting. Started playing Ultimate in 1981 with the then worst team in the
country which is now called Fluid Druids. I held the equivalent post of
Director of Competitions for the BUF for 3 years in the mid 80's, have
played for GB and captained GB in Japan in 1992. I am passionate about the
sport and care about how we further develop the sport. Because of my
extensive business interests and experience I believe I can bring a
different perspective to the group.


Anna Winter (Without Portfolio) eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk   0113 2422351
I've been playing for a little over two years with Jedi and Disco Inferno,
the Leeds University teams, and have recently started a regional student
women's team for the North. Compared to most of the candidates putting
themselves forward I am comparatively new to the game and the organising of
it. This means I bring a fresh outlook to the group and provide a voice for
others who are learning more about our sport. In addition to this I
represent student interests as well as those of women players and so can
offer a variety of perspectives.


Barry O'Kane (Without Portfolio) barry@endzone.co.uk   07763 070196
I've been heavily involved in Ultimate locally and nationally over the last
nine years and would like to bring that experience to the board of our new
association. As well as being committed to the general development of our
sport I particularly want to:

? Represent more remote communities of players e.g. those in Scotland.
? Develop ways to help and support those who coach teams of all levels,
without changing our unique culture.
? Continue to develop our online resources e.g. my www.whatisultimate.com
site.

There's loads I can bring to UK Ultimate, besides, we need to ensure a
sensible quota of beards in the board!


Ben Mitchell (Without Portfolio) b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk
I have a wide experience of Ultimate, including at the top level of the
Tour, Mixed Tour, indoors, international events, coaching and running a
student club. I am pragmatic and a good listener. I have regular contact
with a large number of committed Ultimate players whose ideas and opinions I
am keen to represent. I'm a big sports fan and I believe that Ultimate is a
great sport at all levels. I would like UK Ultimate to develop for all of
its members and not to alienate any part of our community


Ben Ravilious (President or Without Portfolio) ben@ravilious.net   07703
460866
As the chief architect of UK Ultimate I would like the opportunity to steer
it in its first year. A website developer by profession, I have held the
position of BUF Secretary for the past three years. I play for Red in
Leicester and have experience of running and publicising our club as well as
coaching the Thundercats junior team. I want the board of directors to work
as a team to run the sport in a more professional manner. I want all levels
of ultimate to be nurtured and would like to concentrate on getting many
more people playing the sport.


Chris Hughes (Without Portfolio) cjhughes@talk21.com
Most ultimate players will be aware that I have been Director of
Competitions for the last three years, and whilst I have retired from that
post I still feel that have more to offer Ultimate in this country (and
probably more off field than on). I feel that my experience as DoC has given
me insight into the parts of organising the sport that this country does so
well, but also what is still poor, and so can be improved. I want to work
towards a greater consistency between the different divisions of Ultimate as
run by the association, so that the official events are better organised, of
a higher standard, and an example of what Ultimate can achieve. I feel that
with the open division, now leading the way in organisation and quality of
tournaments, these lessons can be passed on to the Mixed and Women's
division, hopefully resulting in the rapid expansion of those divisions,
like the open.


Ian Stebbing (Without Portfolio) ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com
Current treasurer of the BUF, having held the position for 2 years. Involved
in many levels of ultimate throughout a 15 year career as a player with a
number of teams including playing for the National team in the Open and
Masters divisions, and running a number of major tournaments, including this
year's National Outdoors. I have been involved in setting up UK Ultimate and
would like to see it develop further to provide improved tournaments, level
of playing and enjoyment for all those involved in playing in the UK.


Kev Lowe (Without Portfolio) Kev@cheerful.com
Having served on the BUF Executive since 1993 as Youth Coordinator, I still
feel I have much to offer. Ultimate in the UK should be so much bigger, and
the only real way to grow is to promote Ultimate in schools. It has so much
to offer young people and it's such a shame that we've never had the
opportunity to really publicise Ultimate. I believe there should be more
people elected who have an active interest in junior Ultimate, as they are
the future of our sport. I will also continue to fight for tournaments to be
cheap and accessible to everyone, particularly juniors and students.


Laura Pearce (Secretary or Without Portfolio) laurapearce@btinternet.com
020 86422302
I have been involved with the sport's organisation since 1998 in my role as
National Director of the BUF, and I would like to continue my involvement in
the new association, but with a different emphasis. I would like to be more
involved with the communication within the association and between divisions
(open, mixed, womens, masters, students, juniors). I think female
representation on the Board is necessary to keep the interests of women's
and mixed ultimate up there with those of open teams and players. I am
already involved in the development of female players by running localised
practice sessions and I hope to build on this and get more practices for
women happening to improve confidence and skills irrespective of the
division in which they wish to play.


Paul Ruff (Without Portfolio) PaulRuff@Hotmail.com  01392 204764
I have been teaching Ultimate to children (11-16) for the last five years.
My job as a teacher of Physical Education allows me the opportunity to
introduce this sport to literally hundreds of children per year, both in
curriculum time and through our school club. I believe that if we want
Ultimate in this country to expand and go forward, we must get this sport
played is as many schools as we can. This, I am sure would also contribute
significantly to a dramatic rise in standards in years to come. I would
relish the opportunity to get more school children involved in Ultimate.
Primary and Secondary schemes of work would need to be produced. Schools
would need starter packs, access to cheap discs, advertising posters,
opportunities for staff training, and most of all support.This may seem a
little idealistic to some, but I'd like to give it a go and to start
investing heavily in the future of this beautiful sport.


Pete Harvey (Without Portfolio) harvey@backspin.co.uk
I am Peter H Harvey aka Harv, a web guy aged 28, and have enjoyed playing
ulti since '88. I love playing ulti (and pretty much all disc sports) and
love being a part of a very special worldwide community. It's time for me to
give some love back, and I see this as my opportunity. I currently play
with, and help to run, Clapham Ultimate. Clapham are a 'proper' geo club
formed to last beyond the usual scope of 'the next big thing' which has been
a feature of many teams through the years. My aims are:-
1. Bring the spirit back into UK ultimate - Spirit is why we play the game!
2. Assist the UK Ultimate Association with web, branding, merchandising and
PR.
3. Rationalise National Team selection
4. Setup a long term project to build an official library of useful,
ultimate-related material.
5. Write a UK Ultimate Association 'code of conduct'.
6. Encourage & welcome new and travelling players
7. Promotion of all Disc Sports.
Play hard, play to win, but play fair. We are ALL referees. Play to the
spirit of the game. Vote Harv.


Rob Mitchell (Without Portfolio) rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk
I started playing in 1993, helping to found Fingers 6, Manchester's first
Ultimate team. For the last six years i've been in the front carriage of the
Chevron Action Flash rollercoaster, as well as playing GB Open (97,98) and
Mixed (2000). In my spare, spare time I write for the Big Issue. In my
spare, spare, spare time I'd like to use this and other God-given talents to
help UK Ultimate. Principal reasons for standing:

1. Every team needs a dump.
2. Petty roster objections and tournament rule changes represent Chevron's
best chance of winning anything.
3. Annual dinner in Leicester.


Simon Weeks (Director of Competitions or Without Portfolio)
For those of you who don't know me I have been playing ultimate for over six
years and currently play with Chevron Action Flash. During this time I have
organised numerous tournaments including tour events and co-ed nationals. I
have also represented the BUF as national student co-ordinator. I intend to
build on the excellent work already undertaken by Chris Hughes, but I
believe it is too large a task for one person. If elected, I intend to
appoint individuals to oversee each area of competition. Dividing the
workload will aid the smooth running of competitions.


Tom Styles (Without Portfolio) tstyles@protocol.co.uk
Since the beginning of 2001 I, along with (Block Stack Productions), have
tried to make ultimate more accessible through filming three tournaments and
selling the videos. I am also working with "Above and Beyond" the video
makers from the USA, to act as their UK Distributors. I have built a new
website www.block-stack.co.uk which will act as a focus for more in-depth
discussion of the game. (Complementing BritDisc) As well as a channel of
offers of accommodation and transport, which clog up the email list. I've
played with 5 different teams both indoor and outdoor. I'd love to have an
opportunity to push the game forward through my involvement with UK
Ultimate.


Wayne Davey (Treasurer or Without Portfolio) wdavey@ingenta.com   01225
462212
I've been playing ultimate in the UK for 16 years with a variety of teams
(most recently Headrush, UTI & GB Masters). I am a qualified (and
experienced) accountant and always assumed that these "skills" would be used
simply to pay for my ultimate travels. I think you will be able to trust me
to manage the finances of the new organization, and I will always aim to be
approachable. The creation of the association will bring several financial
challenges such as collecting membership fees and evaluating how to best use
our income. I will try to deal sensibly with these issues. Please give me
the opportunity to give up my remaining free time!



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>Feel free to contact them directly or question them on Britdisc.

I was going to question Si Weeks on here but then realised he's cunningly 
not on email!

If anyone can answer which areas he's planning to seperate the DoC position 
into I'd be interested. Is this going to end up putting more pressure on the 
Student and Womens representatives or are we going to end up with a move 
towards a couple of levels of beaurocracy with more people brought in below 
the board?

Only question I've got, apart from the archive appears to be unavailable now 
- does anyone from the current committee know what's going on?

Cheers,

Angie

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Andy Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: UK Ultimate Election & Candidates
>
>
>
> >Feel free to contact them directly or question them on Britdisc.
>
> I was going to question Si Weeks on here but then realised he's cunningly
> not on email!
>
> If anyone can answer which areas he's planning to seperate the
> DoC position
> into I'd be interested. Is this going to end up putting more
> pressure on the
> Student and Womens representatives or are we going to end up with a move
> towards a couple of levels of beaurocracy with more people
> brought in below
> the board?
>
> Only question I've got, apart from the archive appears to be
> unavailable now
> - does anyone from the current committee know what's going on?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Angie
>
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>
> Only question I've got, apart from the archive appears to be
> unavailable now
> - does anyone from the current committee know what's going on?
>


The britdisc archive?  You can view (and search) all the messages since May
2000 at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/britdisc-daily


Barry

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Andy,

To answer your question about the Britdisc archive, If I am elected I will push to replace Britdisc with two separate lists: One for debate and one for announcements only. 

I know there are a lot of people out there who don't want all the banter but do want to know about tournaments etc.

It makes sense to use on of the commercially available list providers such as Yahoogroups, Smartgroups, etc. This will also stop us relying on Ralf and Sammy to keep Britdisc up and running at Warwick Uni.

There are a lot of other lists out there which should be publicised properly and probably some scope for new ones (e.g. Women's Ultimate.) It would make sense to have these all hosted by the same service so that the webmaster can look after them easily.

I believe Si Weeks has spies on Britdisc so hopefully he will respond to your DoC question.

Ben

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Andy Cox" <andycox23@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:50:30 

>
>>Feel free to contact them directly or question them on Britdisc.
>
>I was going to question Si Weeks on here but then realised he's cunningly 
>not on email!
>
>If anyone can answer which areas he's planning to seperate the DoC position 
>into I'd be interested. Is this going to end up putting more pressure on the 
>Student and Womens representatives or are we going to end up with a move 
>towards a couple of levels of beaurocracy with more people brought in below 
>the board?
>
>Only question I've got, apart from the archive appears to be unavailable now 
>- does anyone from the current committee know what's going on?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Angie
>
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All,

I notice that a large percentage of these people are from just a couple of
teams, and I also note that there is no provision to prevent the whole
committee to be from one team. I would suggest that in the future the
constitution be amended to ensure some measure of diversity (and that people
should keep this in mind during the current election).

Just doing my bit for democracy

Aram
11 CU

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
Sent: 23 October 2001 15:15
To: BRITDISC
Subject: UK Ultimate Election & Candidates


Dear all,

In this email:-

1. List of candidates
2. Postponement of election
3. Registration opportunity extended

1. The list of all 15 candidates is attached at the bottom of this email.
Feel free to contact them directly or question them on Britdisc. If you are
not on Britdisc visit www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp for susbscription
instructions.

2. Due to a delay in getting Ultimatum magazine printed we will postpone the
deadline for voting to Friday 9th of November. The planned meeting at
Cheltenham has also been postponed. Ultimatum plus the voting form should
not arrive the in middle of next week.

3. The postponement of the election gives more time for players to register.
So far we have had 472 people register but there are a lot more people out
there. Please spread the word amongst your team mates. Final deadline is
Friday (26th Oct).

Thanks

Ben Ravilious
Caretaker Secretary
UK Ultimate



LIST OF CANDIDATES:-

Adam Batchelor (Without Portfolio) adam.batchelor@virgin.net
Managing Director and owner of The Raceway Group (Indoor Karting Centres)
employing 60+ staff opened in 1993. Chairman of the National Kartin
Association the governing body of pro karting and sit on the Motor
Activities Training Council and the HSE Joint Advisory Committee for
Karting. Started playing Ultimate in 1981 with the then worst team in the
country which is now called Fluid Druids. I held the equivalent post of
Director of Competitions for the BUF for 3 years in the mid 80's, have
played for GB and captained GB in Japan in 1992. I am passionate about the
sport and care about how we further develop the sport. Because of my
extensive business interests and experience I believe I can bring a
different perspective to the group.


Anna Winter (Without Portfolio) eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk   0113 2422351
I've been playing for a little over two years with Jedi and Disco Inferno,
the Leeds University teams, and have recently started a regional student
women's team for the North. Compared to most of the candidates putting
themselves forward I am comparatively new to the game and the organising of
it. This means I bring a fresh outlook to the group and provide a voice for
others who are learning more about our sport. In addition to this I
represent student interests as well as those of women players and so can
offer a variety of perspectives.


Barry O'Kane (Without Portfolio) barry@endzone.co.uk   07763 070196
I've been heavily involved in Ultimate locally and nationally over the last
nine years and would like to bring that experience to the board of our new
association. As well as being committed to the general development of our
sport I particularly want to:

? Represent more remote communities of players e.g. those in Scotland.
? Develop ways to help and support those who coach teams of all levels,
without changing our unique culture.
? Continue to develop our online resources e.g. my www.whatisultimate.com
site.

There's loads I can bring to UK Ultimate, besides, we need to ensure a
sensible quota of beards in the board!


Ben Mitchell (Without Portfolio) b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk
I have a wide experience of Ultimate, including at the top level of the
Tour, Mixed Tour, indoors, international events, coaching and running a
student club. I am pragmatic and a good listener. I have regular contact
with a large number of committed Ultimate players whose ideas and opinions I
am keen to represent. I'm a big sports fan and I believe that Ultimate is a
great sport at all levels. I would like UK Ultimate to develop for all of
its members and not to alienate any part of our community


Ben Ravilious (President or Without Portfolio) ben@ravilious.net   07703
460866
As the chief architect of UK Ultimate I would like the opportunity to steer
it in its first year. A website developer by profession, I have held the
position of BUF Secretary for the past three years. I play for Red in
Leicester and have experience of running and publicising our club as well as
coaching the Thundercats junior team. I want the board of directors to work
as a team to run the sport in a more professional manner. I want all levels
of ultimate to be nurtured and would like to concentrate on getting many
more people playing the sport.


Chris Hughes (Without Portfolio) cjhughes@talk21.com
Most ultimate players will be aware that I have been Director of
Competitions for the last three years, and whilst I have retired from that
post I still feel that have more to offer Ultimate in this country (and
probably more off field than on). I feel that my experience as DoC has given
me insight into the parts of organising the sport that this country does so
well, but also what is still poor, and so can be improved. I want to work
towards a greater consistency between the different divisions of Ultimate as
run by the association, so that the official events are better organised, of
a higher standard, and an example of what Ultimate can achieve. I feel that
with the open division, now leading the way in organisation and quality of
tournaments, these lessons can be passed on to the Mixed and Women's
division, hopefully resulting in the rapid expansion of those divisions,
like the open.


Ian Stebbing (Without Portfolio) ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com
Current treasurer of the BUF, having held the position for 2 years. Involved
in many levels of ultimate throughout a 15 year career as a player with a
number of teams including playing for the National team in the Open and
Masters divisions, and running a number of major tournaments, including this
year's National Outdoors. I have been involved in setting up UK Ultimate and
would like to see it develop further to provide improved tournaments, level
of playing and enjoyment for all those involved in playing in the UK.


Kev Lowe (Without Portfolio) Kev@cheerful.com
Having served on the BUF Executive since 1993 as Youth Coordinator, I still
feel I have much to offer. Ultimate in the UK should be so much bigger, and
the only real way to grow is to promote Ultimate in schools. It has so much
to offer young people and it's such a shame that we've never had the
opportunity to really publicise Ultimate. I believe there should be more
people elected who have an active interest in junior Ultimate, as they are
the future of our sport. I will also continue to fight for tournaments to be
cheap and accessible to everyone, particularly juniors and students.


Laura Pearce (Secretary or Without Portfolio) laurapearce@btinternet.com
020 86422302
I have been involved with the sport's organisation since 1998 in my role as
National Director of the BUF, and I would like to continue my involvement in
the new association, but with a different emphasis. I would like to be more
involved with the communication within the association and between divisions
(open, mixed, womens, masters, students, juniors). I think female
representation on the Board is necessary to keep the interests of women's
and mixed ultimate up there with those of open teams and players. I am
already involved in the development of female players by running localised
practice sessions and I hope to build on this and get more practices for
women happening to improve confidence and skills irrespective of the
division in which they wish to play.


Paul Ruff (Without Portfolio) PaulRuff@Hotmail.com  01392 204764
I have been teaching Ultimate to children (11-16) for the last five years.
My job as a teacher of Physical Education allows me the opportunity to
introduce this sport to literally hundreds of children per year, both in
curriculum time and through our school club. I believe that if we want
Ultimate in this country to expand and go forward, we must get this sport
played is as many schools as we can. This, I am sure would also contribute
significantly to a dramatic rise in standards in years to come. I would
relish the opportunity to get more school children involved in Ultimate.
Primary and Secondary schemes of work would need to be produced. Schools
would need starter packs, access to cheap discs, advertising posters,
opportunities for staff training, and most of all support.This may seem a
little idealistic to some, but I'd like to give it a go and to start
investing heavily in the future of this beautiful sport.


Pete Harvey (Without Portfolio) harvey@backspin.co.uk
I am Peter H Harvey aka Harv, a web guy aged 28, and have enjoyed playing
ulti since '88. I love playing ulti (and pretty much all disc sports) and
love being a part of a very special worldwide community. It's time for me to
give some love back, and I see this as my opportunity. I currently play
with, and help to run, Clapham Ultimate. Clapham are a 'proper' geo club
formed to last beyond the usual scope of 'the next big thing' which has been
a feature of many teams through the years. My aims are:-
1. Bring the spirit back into UK ultimate - Spirit is why we play the game!
2. Assist the UK Ultimate Association with web, branding, merchandising and
PR.
3. Rationalise National Team selection
4. Setup a long term project to build an official library of useful,
ultimate-related material.
5. Write a UK Ultimate Association 'code of conduct'.
6. Encourage & welcome new and travelling players
7. Promotion of all Disc Sports.
Play hard, play to win, but play fair. We are ALL referees. Play to the
spirit of the game. Vote Harv.


Rob Mitchell (Without Portfolio) rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk
I started playing in 1993, helping to found Fingers 6, Manchester's first
Ultimate team. For the last six years i've been in the front carriage of the
Chevron Action Flash rollercoaster, as well as playing GB Open (97,98) and
Mixed (2000). In my spare, spare time I write for the Big Issue. In my
spare, spare, spare time I'd like to use this and other God-given talents to
help UK Ultimate. Principal reasons for standing:

1. Every team needs a dump.
2. Petty roster objections and tournament rule changes represent Chevron's
best chance of winning anything.
3. Annual dinner in Leicester.


Simon Weeks (Director of Competitions or Without Portfolio)
For those of you who don't know me I have been playing ultimate for over six
years and currently play with Chevron Action Flash. During this time I have
organised numerous tournaments including tour events and co-ed nationals. I
have also represented the BUF as national student co-ordinator. I intend to
build on the excellent work already undertaken by Chris Hughes, but I
believe it is too large a task for one person. If elected, I intend to
appoint individuals to oversee each area of competition. Dividing the
workload will aid the smooth running of competitions.


Tom Styles (Without Portfolio) tstyles@protocol.co.uk
Since the beginning of 2001 I, along with (Block Stack Productions), have
tried to make ultimate more accessible through filming three tournaments and
selling the videos. I am also working with "Above and Beyond" the video
makers from the USA, to act as their UK Distributors. I have built a new
website www.block-stack.co.uk which will act as a focus for more in-depth
discussion of the game. (Complementing BritDisc) As well as a channel of
offers of accommodation and transport, which clog up the email list. I've
played with 5 different teams both indoor and outdoor. I'd love to have an
opportunity to push the game forward through my involvement with UK
Ultimate.


Wayne Davey (Treasurer or Without Portfolio) wdavey@ingenta.com   01225
462212
I've been playing ultimate in the UK for 16 years with a variety of teams
(most recently Headrush, UTI & GB Masters). I am a qualified (and
experienced) accountant and always assumed that these "skills" would be used
simply to pay for my ultimate travels. I think you will be able to trust me
to manage the finances of the new organization, and I will always aim to be
approachable. The creation of the association will bring several financial
challenges such as collecting membership fees and evaluating how to best use
our income. I will try to deal sensibly with these issues. Please give me
the opportunity to give up my remaining free time!





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This is a double purposes email. Firstly some exciting news.
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THE NEW BLOCK STACK WEBSITE IS LAUNCHED.
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www.block-stack.co.uk      (please note the dash)
=20
This is not just a site to sell some more of our great videos, it is
also a place where people can discuss the game in more detail than is
possible on Britdisc. This is some thing that has been needed for a long
time.(as Ben pointed out) There are areas where you can discuss the
future of Ultimate in the UK. These are divided into Open, Co-ed,
Women's, and Indoor areas. There is also a topic of the month area where
you can discuss the issue of the day.=20
=20
Other services also available include an accommodation board (one for
London, one for outside London) where you can advertise a room for an
ultimate player or request a room in a certain place. This will get it
off BD which I think most of you will welcome. Lastly there is an area
where transport can be offered and requested to get people going to the
same tournament together to save petrol, and meet new people.
=20
There is still the notorious team fruit machine for a laugh and we are
still selling last years indoor nationals video. We are also proud to
bring you the Above and Beyond videos from the UPA 2000 Men's and
Women's Nationals in the USA. These are amazing videos if you haven't
seen them.=20
=20
New features will be added to the site as they are developed.
=20
Finally, I'm standing for election for the board of directors of UK
Ultimate. I hope from my work with the Block Stack Productions and now
with this new site you can appreciate my commitment to this great sport
of ours, and that you see fit to vote for me.
=20
Thanks for listening, I look forward to some exciting debate on the new
site.
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Tom Styles
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Subject: Anyone else with a dodgy ankle???


All on Britdisc,

Anyone else with a dodgy ankle???
I am placing an order in for McDavid (lace-up) ankle supports for a few
people.
If you do not know about this type of support, it is descibed here:
http://www.ankle-foot.com/mcd.htm
It is worn over the sock, under the shoe, and is so much better than
anything I have come across in this country.

I have been told by the company I am getting them from that if I can an
order of more than 10 (I have an order of 4 so far) I can get them for $30
including delivery (instead of their normal price of $35 plus $6-8
delivery).

(Alternatively, if anyone knows where I can actually get them in this
country...)

Single problem I have found with them is when playing football,  you cannot
easily twist your foot to play the ball with the outside of your boot.


If anybody wants one, mail me at home (with shoe size, and colour preference
b/w) on steve@ultim8.freeserve.co.uk
The total cost will be between 22 and 23 quid (including delivery from me to
you).
When I ordered one for myself the delivery took about 2 weeks.

I should be at the Edinburgh Beginners (wearing one) with the Durham team if
anyone there wants to try mine.

Regards,
Steve Henderson
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the old ultim8 website (at http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk) no
longer exists, so any links will fail.

Apologies for this - hopefully the info contained therein (1997-2000, so
it was not particularly up to date anyway...) will get its own section
on www.ukultimate.com along with future info

Regards
Wayne Retter


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Hi to all weak-ankled ultimate players!
Don't forget that the use of an ankle brace is fine, but it is not a 
substitute for doing the muscle stregthening and balance re-education work 
that must be done after any ankle injury. (see the yellow book; Hold it for 
Ten and no Bouncing).

Cheers,
Paul

Dr Paul Marfleet
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Hi to all weak-ankled ultimate players!
<BR>Don't forget that the use of an ankle brace is fine, but it is not a substitute for doing the muscle stregthening and balance re-education work that must be done after any ankle injury. (see the yellow book; Hold it for Ten and no Bouncing).
<BR>
<BR>Cheers,
<BR>Paul
<BR>
<BR>Dr Paul Marfleet
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Captains meeting is at 8.45 at Concord sports centre.

Here are the start times for all the teams.

Beginners:
9.15 Phat1, No Frills2, Strange Blue, Bears 2
9.37 Purple Haze, Space Monkeys, Jesters, KCL
9.59 Bears 1, YBK 2, Jedi, Phat 2
10.21 YBK 1, Chuft, Hulltimate, No Frills 1

Experienced:
9.15 Space Monkeys, Hulltimate
9.37 Phat 'Eds, Chuft
9.59 Purple Haze, Jesters
10.21 Bears, YBK
10.43 Strange Blue
11.05 Little Shef

Directions on the website.  I'm still waiting to here about 
accomodation from some teams.

Any probs call 0114 267 9932 or 07947738126

Cheers,
Dave

Visit our website at www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate

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I must admit I agree with you Aram (that ia a first!) but in all the time I
have been playing Ultimate this has been the case. The problem has always
been a shortage of people who are willing to devote large portions of time
towards the running of the sport. There was an extreme domination by Druids
and Red a few years ago until Chris and Ian left the purple mass...

I think the key is to get a balance of abilities at this stage, as I believe
the people standing are above putting Team loyalties ahead of the sport, the
"Chevvy" contingent excepted obviously :)

Adam
Vote Fatboy - you no it makes no sense.
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> All,
>
> I notice that a large percentage of these people are from just a couple of
> teams, and I also note that there is no provision to prevent the whole
> committee to be from one team. I would suggest that in the future the
> constitution be amended to ensure some measure of diversity (and that
people
> should keep this in mind during the current election).
>
> Just doing my bit for democracy
>
> Aram
> 11 CU
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
> Sent: 23 October 2001 15:15
> To: BRITDISC
> Subject: UK Ultimate Election & Candidates
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> In this email:-
>
> 1. List of candidates
> 2. Postponement of election
> 3. Registration opportunity extended
>
> 1. The list of all 15 candidates is attached at the bottom of this email.
> Feel free to contact them directly or question them on Britdisc. If you
are
> not on Britdisc visit www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp for susbscription
> instructions.
>
> 2. Due to a delay in getting Ultimatum magazine printed we will postpone
the
> deadline for voting to Friday 9th of November. The planned meeting at
> Cheltenham has also been postponed. Ultimatum plus the voting form should
> not arrive the in middle of next week.
>
> 3. The postponement of the election gives more time for players to
register.
> So far we have had 472 people register but there are a lot more people out
> there. Please spread the word amongst your team mates. Final deadline is
> Friday (26th Oct).
>
> Thanks
>
> Ben Ravilious
> Caretaker Secretary
> UK Ultimate
>
>
>
> LIST OF CANDIDATES:-
>
> Adam Batchelor (Without Portfolio) adam.batchelor@virgin.net
> Managing Director and owner of The Raceway Group (Indoor Karting Centres)
> employing 60+ staff opened in 1993. Chairman of the National Kartin
> Association the governing body of pro karting and sit on the Motor
> Activities Training Council and the HSE Joint Advisory Committee for
> Karting. Started playing Ultimate in 1981 with the then worst team in the
> country which is now called Fluid Druids. I held the equivalent post of
> Director of Competitions for the BUF for 3 years in the mid 80's, have
> played for GB and captained GB in Japan in 1992. I am passionate about the
> sport and care about how we further develop the sport. Because of my
> extensive business interests and experience I believe I can bring a
> different perspective to the group.
>
>
> Anna Winter (Without Portfolio) eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk   0113 2422351
> I've been playing for a little over two years with Jedi and Disco Inferno,
> the Leeds University teams, and have recently started a regional student
> women's team for the North. Compared to most of the candidates putting
> themselves forward I am comparatively new to the game and the organising
of
> it. This means I bring a fresh outlook to the group and provide a voice
for
> others who are learning more about our sport. In addition to this I
> represent student interests as well as those of women players and so can
> offer a variety of perspectives.
>
>
> Barry O'Kane (Without Portfolio) barry@endzone.co.uk   07763 070196
> I've been heavily involved in Ultimate locally and nationally over the
last
> nine years and would like to bring that experience to the board of our new
> association. As well as being committed to the general development of our
> sport I particularly want to:
>
> ? Represent more remote communities of players e.g. those in Scotland.
> ? Develop ways to help and support those who coach teams of all levels,
> without changing our unique culture.
> ? Continue to develop our online resources e.g. my www.whatisultimate.com
> site.
>
> There's loads I can bring to UK Ultimate, besides, we need to ensure a
> sensible quota of beards in the board!
>
>
> Ben Mitchell (Without Portfolio) b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk
> I have a wide experience of Ultimate, including at the top level of the
> Tour, Mixed Tour, indoors, international events, coaching and running a
> student club. I am pragmatic and a good listener. I have regular contact
> with a large number of committed Ultimate players whose ideas and opinions
I
> am keen to represent. I'm a big sports fan and I believe that Ultimate is
a
> great sport at all levels. I would like UK Ultimate to develop for all of
> its members and not to alienate any part of our community
>
>
> Ben Ravilious (President or Without Portfolio) ben@ravilious.net   07703
> 460866
> As the chief architect of UK Ultimate I would like the opportunity to
steer
> it in its first year. A website developer by profession, I have held the
> position of BUF Secretary for the past three years. I play for Red in
> Leicester and have experience of running and publicising our club as well
as
> coaching the Thundercats junior team. I want the board of directors to
work
> as a team to run the sport in a more professional manner. I want all
levels
> of ultimate to be nurtured and would like to concentrate on getting many
> more people playing the sport.
>
>
> Chris Hughes (Without Portfolio) cjhughes@talk21.com
> Most ultimate players will be aware that I have been Director of
> Competitions for the last three years, and whilst I have retired from that
> post I still feel that have more to offer Ultimate in this country (and
> probably more off field than on). I feel that my experience as DoC has
given
> me insight into the parts of organising the sport that this country does
so
> well, but also what is still poor, and so can be improved. I want to work
> towards a greater consistency between the different divisions of Ultimate
as
> run by the association, so that the official events are better organised,
of
> a higher standard, and an example of what Ultimate can achieve. I feel
that
> with the open division, now leading the way in organisation and quality of
> tournaments, these lessons can be passed on to the Mixed and Women's
> division, hopefully resulting in the rapid expansion of those divisions,
> like the open.
>
>
> Ian Stebbing (Without Portfolio) ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com
> Current treasurer of the BUF, having held the position for 2 years.
Involved
> in many levels of ultimate throughout a 15 year career as a player with a
> number of teams including playing for the National team in the Open and
> Masters divisions, and running a number of major tournaments, including
this
> year's National Outdoors. I have been involved in setting up UK Ultimate
and
> would like to see it develop further to provide improved tournaments,
level
> of playing and enjoyment for all those involved in playing in the UK.
>
>
> Kev Lowe (Without Portfolio) Kev@cheerful.com
> Having served on the BUF Executive since 1993 as Youth Coordinator, I
still
> feel I have much to offer. Ultimate in the UK should be so much bigger,
and
> the only real way to grow is to promote Ultimate in schools. It has so
much
> to offer young people and it's such a shame that we've never had the
> opportunity to really publicise Ultimate. I believe there should be more
> people elected who have an active interest in junior Ultimate, as they are
> the future of our sport. I will also continue to fight for tournaments to
be
> cheap and accessible to everyone, particularly juniors and students.
>
>
> Laura Pearce (Secretary or Without Portfolio) laurapearce@btinternet.com
> 020 86422302
> I have been involved with the sport's organisation since 1998 in my role
as
> National Director of the BUF, and I would like to continue my involvement
in
> the new association, but with a different emphasis. I would like to be
more
> involved with the communication within the association and between
divisions
> (open, mixed, womens, masters, students, juniors). I think female
> representation on the Board is necessary to keep the interests of women's
> and mixed ultimate up there with those of open teams and players. I am
> already involved in the development of female players by running localised
> practice sessions and I hope to build on this and get more practices for
> women happening to improve confidence and skills irrespective of the
> division in which they wish to play.
>
>
> Paul Ruff (Without Portfolio) PaulRuff@Hotmail.com  01392 204764
> I have been teaching Ultimate to children (11-16) for the last five years.
> My job as a teacher of Physical Education allows me the opportunity to
> introduce this sport to literally hundreds of children per year, both in
> curriculum time and through our school club. I believe that if we want
> Ultimate in this country to expand and go forward, we must get this sport
> played is as many schools as we can. This, I am sure would also contribute
> significantly to a dramatic rise in standards in years to come. I would
> relish the opportunity to get more school children involved in Ultimate.
> Primary and Secondary schemes of work would need to be produced. Schools
> would need starter packs, access to cheap discs, advertising posters,
> opportunities for staff training, and most of all support.This may seem a
> little idealistic to some, but I'd like to give it a go and to start
> investing heavily in the future of this beautiful sport.
>
>
> Pete Harvey (Without Portfolio) harvey@backspin.co.uk
> I am Peter H Harvey aka Harv, a web guy aged 28, and have enjoyed playing
> ulti since '88. I love playing ulti (and pretty much all disc sports) and
> love being a part of a very special worldwide community. It's time for me
to
> give some love back, and I see this as my opportunity. I currently play
> with, and help to run, Clapham Ultimate. Clapham are a 'proper' geo club
> formed to last beyond the usual scope of 'the next big thing' which has
been
> a feature of many teams through the years. My aims are:-
> 1. Bring the spirit back into UK ultimate - Spirit is why we play the
game!
> 2. Assist the UK Ultimate Association with web, branding, merchandising
and
> PR.
> 3. Rationalise National Team selection
> 4. Setup a long term project to build an official library of useful,
> ultimate-related material.
> 5. Write a UK Ultimate Association 'code of conduct'.
> 6. Encourage & welcome new and travelling players
> 7. Promotion of all Disc Sports.
> Play hard, play to win, but play fair. We are ALL referees. Play to the
> spirit of the game. Vote Harv.
>
>
> Rob Mitchell (Without Portfolio) rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk
> I started playing in 1993, helping to found Fingers 6, Manchester's first
> Ultimate team. For the last six years i've been in the front carriage of
the
> Chevron Action Flash rollercoaster, as well as playing GB Open (97,98) and
> Mixed (2000). In my spare, spare time I write for the Big Issue. In my
> spare, spare, spare time I'd like to use this and other God-given talents
to
> help UK Ultimate. Principal reasons for standing:
>
> 1. Every team needs a dump.
> 2. Petty roster objections and tournament rule changes represent Chevron's
> best chance of winning anything.
> 3. Annual dinner in Leicester.
>
>
> Simon Weeks (Director of Competitions or Without Portfolio)
> For those of you who don't know me I have been playing ultimate for over
six
> years and currently play with Chevron Action Flash. During this time I
have
> organised numerous tournaments including tour events and co-ed nationals.
I
> have also represented the BUF as national student co-ordinator. I intend
to
> build on the excellent work already undertaken by Chris Hughes, but I
> believe it is too large a task for one person. If elected, I intend to
> appoint individuals to oversee each area of competition. Dividing the
> workload will aid the smooth running of competitions.
>
>
> Tom Styles (Without Portfolio) tstyles@protocol.co.uk
> Since the beginning of 2001 I, along with (Block Stack Productions), have
> tried to make ultimate more accessible through filming three tournaments
and
> selling the videos. I am also working with "Above and Beyond" the video
> makers from the USA, to act as their UK Distributors. I have built a new
> website www.block-stack.co.uk which will act as a focus for more in-depth
> discussion of the game. (Complementing BritDisc) As well as a channel of
> offers of accommodation and transport, which clog up the email list. I've
> played with 5 different teams both indoor and outdoor. I'd love to have an
> opportunity to push the game forward through my involvement with UK
> Ultimate.
>
>
> Wayne Davey (Treasurer or Without Portfolio) wdavey@ingenta.com   01225
> 462212
> I've been playing ultimate in the UK for 16 years with a variety of teams
> (most recently Headrush, UTI & GB Masters). I am a qualified (and
> experienced) accountant and always assumed that these "skills" would be
used
> simply to pay for my ultimate travels. I think you will be able to trust
me
> to manage the finances of the new organization, and I will always aim to
be
> approachable. The creation of the association will bring several financial
> challenges such as collecting membership fees and evaluating how to best
use
> our income. I will try to deal sensibly with these issues. Please give me
> the opportunity to give up my remaining free time!
>
>
>
>
>
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UK Ultimate = Animal Farm!!!

A limit to the number directors from a team is workable if a little draconian. At the very least I reckon we should make candidates declare which team they play. Perhaps that should be in the constitution.

I note that noone has actually queried the Chevvy folks about their plans for global domination.

Ben

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:55:32 +0100

>I must admit I agree with you Aram (that ia a first!) but in all the time I
>have been playing Ultimate this has been the case. The problem has always
>been a shortage of people who are willing to devote large portions of time
>towards the running of the sport. There was an extreme domination by Druids
>and Red a few years ago until Chris and Ian left the purple mass...
>
>I think the key is to get a balance of abilities at this stage, as I believe
>the people standing are above putting Team loyalties ahead of the sport, the
>"Chevvy" contingent excepted obviously :)
>
>Adam
>Vote Fatboy - you no it makes no sense.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Flores, Aram <aflores@lehman.com>
>To: 'Ben Ravilious' <ben@ravilious.net>; BRITDISC
><britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:54 PM
>Subject: RE: UK Ultimate Election & Candidates
>
>
>> All,
>>
>> I notice that a large percentage of these people are from just a couple of
>> teams, and I also note that there is no provision to prevent the whole
>> committee to be from one team. I would suggest that in the future the
>> constitution be amended to ensure some measure of diversity (and that
>people
>> should keep this in mind during the current election).
>>
>> Just doing my bit for democracy
>>
>> Aram
>> 11 CU
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
>> Sent: 23 October 2001 15:15
>> To: BRITDISC
>> Subject: UK Ultimate Election & Candidates
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> In this email:-
>>
>> 1. List of candidates
>> 2. Postponement of election
>> 3. Registration opportunity extended
>>
>> 1. The list of all 15 candidates is attached at the bottom of this email.
>> Feel free to contact them directly or question them on Britdisc. If you
>are
>> not on Britdisc visit www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp for susbscription
>> instructions.
>>
>> 2. Due to a delay in getting Ultimatum magazine printed we will postpone
>the
>> deadline for voting to Friday 9th of November. The planned meeting at
>> Cheltenham has also been postponed. Ultimatum plus the voting form should
>> not arrive the in middle of next week.
>>
>> 3. The postponement of the election gives more time for players to
>register.
>> So far we have had 472 people register but there are a lot more people out
>> there. Please spread the word amongst your team mates. Final deadline is
>> Friday (26th Oct).
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ben Ravilious
>> Caretaker Secretary
>> UK Ultimate
>>
>>
>>
>> LIST OF CANDIDATES:-
>>
>> Adam Batchelor (Without Portfolio) adam.batchelor@virgin.net
>> Managing Director and owner of The Raceway Group (Indoor Karting Centres)
>> employing 60+ staff opened in 1993. Chairman of the National Kartin
>> Association the governing body of pro karting and sit on the Motor
>> Activities Training Council and the HSE Joint Advisory Committee for
>> Karting. Started playing Ultimate in 1981 with the then worst team in the
>> country which is now called Fluid Druids. I held the equivalent post of
>> Director of Competitions for the BUF for 3 years in the mid 80's, have
>> played for GB and captained GB in Japan in 1992. I am passionate about the
>> sport and care about how we further develop the sport. Because of my
>> extensive business interests and experience I believe I can bring a
>> different perspective to the group.
>>
>>
>> Anna Winter (Without Portfolio) eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk   0113 2422351
>> I've been playing for a little over two years with Jedi and Disco Inferno,
>> the Leeds University teams, and have recently started a regional student
>> women's team for the North. Compared to most of the candidates putting
>> themselves forward I am comparatively new to the game and the organising
>of
>> it. This means I bring a fresh outlook to the group and provide a voice
>for
>> others who are learning more about our sport. In addition to this I
>> represent student interests as well as those of women players and so can
>> offer a variety of perspectives.
>>
>>
>> Barry O'Kane (Without Portfolio) barry@endzone.co.uk   07763 070196
>> I've been heavily involved in Ultimate locally and nationally over the
>last
>> nine years and would like to bring that experience to the board of our new
>> association. As well as being committed to the general development of our
>> sport I particularly want to:
>>
>> ? Represent more remote communities of players e.g. those in Scotland.
>> ? Develop ways to help and support those who coach teams of all levels,
>> without changing our unique culture.
>> ? Continue to develop our online resources e.g. my www.whatisultimate.com
>> site.
>>
>> There's loads I can bring to UK Ultimate, besides, we need to ensure a
>> sensible quota of beards in the board!
>>
>>
>> Ben Mitchell (Without Portfolio) b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk
>> I have a wide experience of Ultimate, including at the top level of the
>> Tour, Mixed Tour, indoors, international events, coaching and running a
>> student club. I am pragmatic and a good listener. I have regular contact
>> with a large number of committed Ultimate players whose ideas and opinions
>I
>> am keen to represent. I'm a big sports fan and I believe that Ultimate is
>a
>> great sport at all levels. I would like UK Ultimate to develop for all of
>> its members and not to alienate any part of our community
>>
>>
>> Ben Ravilious (President or Without Portfolio) ben@ravilious.net   07703
>> 460866
>> As the chief architect of UK Ultimate I would like the opportunity to
>steer
>> it in its first year. A website developer by profession, I have held the
>> position of BUF Secretary for the past three years. I play for Red in
>> Leicester and have experience of running and publicising our club as well
>as
>> coaching the Thundercats junior team. I want the board of directors to
>work
>> as a team to run the sport in a more professional manner. I want all
>levels
>> of ultimate to be nurtured and would like to concentrate on getting many
>> more people playing the sport.
>>
>>
>> Chris Hughes (Without Portfolio) cjhughes@talk21.com
>> Most ultimate players will be aware that I have been Director of
>> Competitions for the last three years, and whilst I have retired from that
>> post I still feel that have more to offer Ultimate in this country (and
>> probably more off field than on). I feel that my experience as DoC has
>given
>> me insight into the parts of organising the sport that this country does
>so
>> well, but also what is still poor, and so can be improved. I want to work
>> towards a greater consistency between the different divisions of Ultimate
>as
>> run by the association, so that the official events are better organised,
>of
>> a higher standard, and an example of what Ultimate can achieve. I feel
>that
>> with the open division, now leading the way in organisation and quality of
>> tournaments, these lessons can be passed on to the Mixed and Women's
>> division, hopefully resulting in the rapid expansion of those divisions,
>> like the open.
>>
>>
>> Ian Stebbing (Without Portfolio) ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com
>> Current treasurer of the BUF, having held the position for 2 years.
>Involved
>> in many levels of ultimate throughout a 15 year career as a player with a
>> number of teams including playing for the National team in the Open and
>> Masters divisions, and running a number of major tournaments, including
>this
>> year's National Outdoors. I have been involved in setting up UK Ultimate
>and
>> would like to see it develop further to provide improved tournaments,
>level
>> of playing and enjoyment for all those involved in playing in the UK.
>>
>>
>> Kev Lowe (Without Portfolio) Kev@cheerful.com
>> Having served on the BUF Executive since 1993 as Youth Coordinator, I
>still
>> feel I have much to offer. Ultimate in the UK should be so much bigger,
>and
>> the only real way to grow is to promote Ultimate in schools. It has so
>much
>> to offer young people and it's such a shame that we've never had the
>> opportunity to really publicise Ultimate. I believe there should be more
>> people elected who have an active interest in junior Ultimate, as they are
>> the future of our sport. I will also continue to fight for tournaments to
>be
>> cheap and accessible to everyone, particularly juniors and students.
>>
>>
>> Laura Pearce (Secretary or Without Portfolio) laurapearce@btinternet.com
>> 020 86422302
>> I have been involved with the sport's organisation since 1998 in my role
>as
>> National Director of the BUF, and I would like to continue my involvement
>in
>> the new association, but with a different emphasis. I would like to be
>more
>> involved with the communication within the association and between
>divisions
>> (open, mixed, womens, masters, students, juniors). I think female
>> representation on the Board is necessary to keep the interests of women's
>> and mixed ultimate up there with those of open teams and players. I am
>> already involved in the development of female players by running localised
>> practice sessions and I hope to build on this and get more practices for
>> women happening to improve confidence and skills irrespective of the
>> division in which they wish to play.
>>
>>
>> Paul Ruff (Without Portfolio) PaulRuff@Hotmail.com  01392 204764
>> I have been teaching Ultimate to children (11-16) for the last five years.
>> My job as a teacher of Physical Education allows me the opportunity to
>> introduce this sport to literally hundreds of children per year, both in
>> curriculum time and through our school club. I believe that if we want
>> Ultimate in this country to expand and go forward, we must get this sport
>> played is as many schools as we can. This, I am sure would also contribute
>> significantly to a dramatic rise in standards in years to come. I would
>> relish the opportunity to get more school children involved in Ultimate.
>> Primary and Secondary schemes of work would need to be produced. Schools
>> would need starter packs, access to cheap discs, advertising posters,
>> opportunities for staff training, and most of all support.This may seem a
>> little idealistic to some, but I'd like to give it a go and to start
>> investing heavily in the future of this beautiful sport.
>>
>>
>> Pete Harvey (Without Portfolio) harvey@backspin.co.uk
>> I am Peter H Harvey aka Harv, a web guy aged 28, and have enjoyed playing
>> ulti since '88. I love playing ulti (and pretty much all disc sports) and
>> love being a part of a very special worldwide community. It's time for me
>to
>> give some love back, and I see this as my opportunity. I currently play
>> with, and help to run, Clapham Ultimate. Clapham are a 'proper' geo club
>> formed to last beyond the usual scope of 'the next big thing' which has
>been
>> a feature of many teams through the years. My aims are:-
>> 1. Bring the spirit back into UK ultimate - Spirit is why we play the
>game!
>> 2. Assist the UK Ultimate Association with web, branding, merchandising
>and
>> PR.
>> 3. Rationalise National Team selection
>> 4. Setup a long term project to build an official library of useful,
>> ultimate-related material.
>> 5. Write a UK Ultimate Association 'code of conduct'.
>> 6. Encourage & welcome new and travelling players
>> 7. Promotion of all Disc Sports.
>> Play hard, play to win, but play fair. We are ALL referees. Play to the
>> spirit of the game. Vote Harv.
>>
>>
>> Rob Mitchell (Without Portfolio) rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk
>> I started playing in 1993, helping to found Fingers 6, Manchester's first
>> Ultimate team. For the last six years i've been in the front carriage of
>the
>> Chevron Action Flash rollercoaster, as well as playing GB Open (97,98) and
>> Mixed (2000). In my spare, spare time I write for the Big Issue. In my
>> spare, spare, spare time I'd like to use this and other God-given talents
>to
>> help UK Ultimate. Principal reasons for standing:
>>
>> 1. Every team needs a dump.
>> 2. Petty roster objections and tournament rule changes represent Chevron's
>> best chance of winning anything.
>> 3. Annual dinner in Leicester.
>>
>>
>> Simon Weeks (Director of Competitions or Without Portfolio)
>> For those of you who don't know me I have been playing ultimate for over
>six
>> years and currently play with Chevron Action Flash. During this time I
>have
>> organised numerous tournaments including tour events and co-ed nationals.
>I
>> have also represented the BUF as national student co-ordinator. I intend
>to
>> build on the excellent work already undertaken by Chris Hughes, but I
>> believe it is too large a task for one person. If elected, I intend to
>> appoint individuals to oversee each area of competition. Dividing the
>> workload will aid the smooth running of competitions.
>>
>>
>> Tom Styles (Without Portfolio) tstyles@protocol.co.uk
>> Since the beginning of 2001 I, along with (Block Stack Productions), have
>> tried to make ultimate more accessible through filming three tournaments
>and
>> selling the videos. I am also working with "Above and Beyond" the video
>> makers from the USA, to act as their UK Distributors. I have built a new
>> website www.block-stack.co.uk which will act as a focus for more in-depth
>> discussion of the game. (Complementing BritDisc) As well as a channel of
>> offers of accommodation and transport, which clog up the email list. I've
>> played with 5 different teams both indoor and outdoor. I'd love to have an
>> opportunity to push the game forward through my involvement with UK
>> Ultimate.
>>
>>
>> Wayne Davey (Treasurer or Without Portfolio) wdavey@ingenta.com   01225
>> 462212
>> I've been playing ultimate in the UK for 16 years with a variety of teams
>> (most recently Headrush, UTI & GB Masters). I am a qualified (and
>> experienced) accountant and always assumed that these "skills" would be
>used
>> simply to pay for my ultimate travels. I think you will be able to trust
>me
>> to manage the finances of the new organization, and I will always aim to
>be
>> approachable. The creation of the association will bring several financial
>> challenges such as collecting membership fees and evaluating how to best
>use
>> our income. I will try to deal sensibly with these issues. Please give me
>> the opportunity to give up my remaining free time!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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  It would have to be the 8/9th as other regions may
have qualifers on the 1st/2nd of dec and we can't do
it any later as term finishes the next weekend
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> Sorry if I've got this wrong, but as far as I remember, you had some
> responsibility for the Britdisc archive, which I've just found to be
> down.  If there's a long-term reason for this that I don't know about,
> sorry.  Just that I've found it a highly useful tool in the past, and
> would be sorry to see it go!

Apologies to everyone who's been inconvenienced by this downtime.

Basically, the problem is that the account that BritDisc is stored in (the
Bears' club account) has been suspended automatically (a process that
happens yearly, unless it is manually re-registered). As I don't know who's
in charge of the Bears this year, I can't do a lot about it.

One point of note is that the archive will not be storing new messages while
the account is suspended, so the archives will have a gap in their content,
when the account is eventually restored.

I'm looking to move the archive I had before to another server some time,
but I've been working about 11 hour days recently, so it's not going to
happen anytime soon.

Ralf.

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The yellow book  'Hold it for Ten and No Bouncing'..The Ultimate Guide to 
Injury Prevention and Fitness,  Is a booklet written for Ultimate players by 
me and Jackie Grant (physio). It was first published in 1989 and a second 
editoin was produced in 1994. Parts of it are a bit out of date but most of 
it still holds true.
It was published by the BUF -Toby Green was in charge of all that; I see from 
the publishers address that it came from Toby's old house in Oxford! 
Ben, does the BUF still have the ability to run another print?

Paul

Dr Paul Marfleet
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>The yellow book &nbsp;'Hold it for Ten and No Bouncing'..The Ultimate Guide to Injury Prevention and Fitness, &nbsp;Is a booklet written for Ultimate players by me and Jackie Grant (physio). It was first published in 1989 and a second editoin was produced in 1994. Parts of it are a bit out of date but most of it still holds true.
<BR>It was published by the BUF -Toby Green was in charge of all that; I see from the publishers address that it came from Toby's old house in Oxford! 
<BR>Ben, does the BUF still have the ability to run another print?
<BR>
<BR>Paul
<BR>
<BR>Dr Paul Marfleet
<BR>Colchester</FONT></HTML>

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Paul & others,

Only the lycra outfits of the 'models' are out of date!

I'd so like to see this in circulation again. I considered it as part of the
association membership package but it was looking just a bit too expensive
to do. I hope that in time the association will be able to afford this.

I will ask Toby about the originals. I seemed to think he passed me back to
you last time I asked.

Give me a couple of weeks and 40 votes!!

;-)

Ben

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> The yellow book  'Hold it for Ten and No Bouncing'..The Ultimate Guide to
> Injury Prevention and Fitness,  Is a booklet written for Ultimate players
by
> me and Jackie Grant (physio). It was first published in 1989 and a second
> editoin was produced in 1994. Parts of it are a bit out of date but most
of
> it still holds true.
> It was published by the BUF -Toby Green was in charge of all that; I see
from
> the publishers address that it came from Toby's old house in Oxford!
> Ben, does the BUF still have the ability to run another print?
>
> Paul
>
> Dr Paul Marfleet
> Colchester
>

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>I note that noone has actually queried the Chevvy folks about their plans for 
>global domination.

nah... we'll be alright... the Blue Army are currently staging a coup
over the Red movement... it'll be a while before they go global.

Seriously, though, out of 4hundred and 70odd (and counting) registered
voters, only these 15 people publicly volunteered to devote some of
their time and energy into the co-ordinated development of our sport.

And we, between us, only get to pick 11 of them.

Wayne

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I've got a couple of copies somewhere on my bookshelf (I'm guessing
they're the '94 edition, they're in too good condition to be '89)...
would they be of any use ?

Whatever happened to 'Odd', the cartoonist ?

Wayne

Wed, 24 Oct 2001, by  <mailto:Marfleet11@aol.com>;
 Subject: the yellow book
>    The yellow book  'Hold it for Ten and No Bouncing'..The Ultimate Guide to 
>    Injury Prevention and Fitness,  Is a booklet written for Ultimate players by 
>    me and Jackie Grant (physio). It was first published in 1989 and a second 
>    editoin was produced in 1994. Parts of it are a bit out of date but most of 
>    it still holds true. 
>    It was published by the BUF -Toby Green was in charge of all that; I see from 
>    the publishers address that it came from Toby's old house in Oxford! 
>    Ben, does the BUF still have the ability to run another print? 
>
>    Paul 
>
>    Dr Paul Marfleet 
>    Colchester 

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Hiya Folks!
    Just wondering if anyone is driving to Cheltenham on Saturday morning 
from anywhere near Windsor.  I can travel to Reading or London (preferably 
near Paddington) and meet there if that is easier.  I'll be happy to pay the 
kind driver for my share in petrol and I'll throw in a bag of Haribo sweets 
.  Please contact me on 07890 203983 or e-mail floydmolloy@hotmail.com.

   Cheers,

      Ali
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Hey Ali,

Instead of using Britdisc to get a lift to a tournament why not use the
Transport Board on the new Block Stack web site. Its been design for
just this purpose. "But what's the address Tom" I hear you ask.

http://www.block-stack.co.uk  

Cheers
Tom

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Hiya Folks!
    Just wondering if anyone is driving to Cheltenham on Saturday
morning 
from anywhere near Windsor.  I can travel to Reading or London
(preferably 
near Paddington) and meet there if that is easier.  I'll be happy to pay
the 
kind driver for my share in petrol and I'll throw in a bag of Haribo
sweets 
.  Please contact me on 07890 203983 or e-mail floydmolloy@hotmail.com.

   Cheers,

      Ali
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Could we not publish it on the UKUltimate website?

We may have to pay Paul a royalty payment (as oppposed to micropayments per
read unless some tech guru has nothing to do..), but surely it would work
out cheaper all round? Teams could be given permission to print off etc.
etc.

Just an idea,

Silver Bear
CU #1



-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
Sent: 24 October 2001 19:20
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: the yellow book


Paul & others,

Only the lycra outfits of the 'models' are out of date!

I'd so like to see this in circulation again. I considered it as part of the
association membership package but it was looking just a bit too expensive
to do. I hope that in time the association will be able to afford this.

I will ask Toby about the originals. I seemed to think he passed me back to
you last time I asked.

Give me a couple of weeks and 40 votes!!

;-)

Ben

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Subject: the yellow book


> The yellow book  'Hold it for Ten and No Bouncing'..The Ultimate Guide to
> Injury Prevention and Fitness,  Is a booklet written for Ultimate players
by
> me and Jackie Grant (physio). It was first published in 1989 and a second
> editoin was produced in 1994. Parts of it are a bit out of date but most
of
> it still holds true.
> It was published by the BUF -Toby Green was in charge of all that; I see
from
> the publishers address that it came from Toby's old house in Oxford!
> Ben, does the BUF still have the ability to run another print?
>
> Paul
>
> Dr Paul Marfleet
> Colchester
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okeydokey, sorry to bore you sports-hallers with this:
 
Wayne has been advising me of formats for Sunday and we've decided to do 2
pools of 4, with one crossover game each to finish the day off. Pools will
be seeded:  A: 1,4,5,8    B: 2,3,6,7 ;in order that 'semis' have happenned
(as opposed to the Tour pools which avoid that). Clapham will be entering 2
fairly even teams, and as all teams are slightly weakened vis-a-vis
Nationals teams the seedings are:
A: Clapham A (1), TeamShark (4), Smash & Grab (5), BadHabits (8)
B: Clapham B (2), Fluid Druids (3), Hammerage (6), NightFever (7)
 
The council has let us down on the marked pitch front (Boo!) as Paul H seems
to have developed a confrontational relationship with the rather unfriendly
pitches person (only joking Paul). Even my silver tongue couldn't make her
change her mind though so we'll have to make do without (and she was a real
b*t*h). It may cause some inconvenience but shouldn't be too disruptive.
There's plenty of room for four pitches and we'll set them up no bother.
Four pitches means we can finish in 4 time slots and can take it all at a
more chilled pace without the need to start at 9am or finish in the dark.
 
The pitches will be right by Clapham South tube station and by the pond a
few hundred yards away.
 
10am: Captain's meeting
10.30am: 1v8, 4v5, 2v7, 3v6
11.45am: 1v5, 4v8, 2v6, 3v7
1pm: 1v4, 5v8, 2v3, 6v7
2.30pm: A1vB1, A2vB2, A3vB3, A4vB4
4pm: Derby vs Chelsea <eek> and beers down the George 
 
Games will be to one hour then finish the point. If one team is more than 2
points ahead - game over, otherwise cap to ONE point over the team ahead's
total. The reason for this is to allow us to keep to schedule whilst still
giving team's a chance to come back at the last minute. There seem few
disadvantages compared to a two point cap - teams will just have to start
playing harder at 50 minutes and realise the one point cap is their
Solskjaeresque last chance....Am happy to discuss at the captain's meeting.
If it's a sudden death - we play penalty shootout ending and all other 6
teams gather round in amazement 8-). Only exception is the crossover games -
where we should play 2 point cap regardless of closeness of the ending.
Teams that are late can be fined 1 point per 2 minutes late, and forfeit the
game if they're more than 10 minutes late (the Committe will decide what to
do about point differences).
 
The team that finishes bottom will definitely be relegated and replaced for
Matchday 2 in November. The 7th place team *may* be given the chance to
requalify by playing the teams lower down the waiting list (which currently
consists of 3 teams: Imperial DiscDoctors, CloudThings, Pyramus & Frisbee) -
depending on those team's ability/willingness to play one or more
qualification games before Matchday 2). Ideally those games would happen at
a self-organised one-dayer on the 10th or 11th of November (and develop into
a second division playing out of sync with the first division), but
unfortunately I don't have the time to organise or dictate; if nothing
happens you'll be subject to our whim and rather limited concept of
fairness, sorry but can't think of any alternative. If you'd like to add
your team to the list for November, you've got until Sunday 10.30am to mail
me.
 
Forecast is for light rain or cloudy weather. Could team captains please
supply mobile numbers to me and your teams so that just in case we get hit
by freak hail storms I can ring the captains and they can get in touch with
team members. I'll be able to check the weather as I live less than 20 yards
from the pitches - my mobile number is 07973 620845 but PLEASE DON'T RING B4
8am on pain of disqualification and death. 
 
TOP CLAPHAM TIP: Bring a bin liner with your kit - a wonderful and cheap
waterproof bag with room for your bag and a friend's: if I'd thought of it
sooner we'd be selling Clapham branded ones at £1 each.
 
3 days left - pray for no rain, and that NightFever and Hammerage beat
Druids! ;-)
 
Kind regards
Silver Bear
CU #1
 
 
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Sent: 19 October 2001 12:46
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'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; philipharveynz@hotmail.com;
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Subject: [ClaphamBullfrogs] London Winter League News


The following teams have secured places at the 1st event on Sunday 28th
October; on the basis that they were the first to apply, and on the basis
that they're the strongest teams on Nationals rankings:

Clapham 1
Druids
TeamShark
Clapham 2
Smash & Grab
Hammerage
NightFever
Badhabits

Please could the captains of these teams who have been mailing me send a
confirmatory email ASAP (also confirming you want to play at the 2nd event).
Final seedings will be dictated by how Clapham decide to split their squad.
Format and other details will be circulated next week. Expect games to start
on Clapham Common at 10 or 11am. We are making progress on the pitch
markings and should have 3 permanently marked pitches in time and all winter
- provided Paul Hurt can bully the council into moving faster than their
accustomed glacier pace. Cost will be £30/team regardless, no need to send
cheques - please bring £££'s on the day. 

Very sorry, the following two teams also applied but unfortunately we don't
have space to cater for them:
Imperial College Discdoctors
Cloudthings

Please could the captains of these two teams confirm that they would still
like to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November. We will decide very
soon whether there will be some form of one-off qualification game against
the relegated teams, whether you will get a slot due to having been on the
waiting list, or some mixture of the two. Rest assured there will be
relegation of AT LEAST one team and one of you, if not both, will get the
chance to play in November: the bottom teams in the League really do have
something to play for! 

Any other teams wanting to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November are
still welcome to apply, please do so before the deadline of Sunday 28th
October.

Pick-up players or ringers please contact the team captains directly. There
are no roster rules, and some of the teams will probably appreciate quality
ringers because of missing players. 

!!! Does anyone have scoreboards we could borrow please? Would make the
whole thing look a little more organised..!!! While I'm on that subject
doesn't someone have a word doc about how to be a Tournament Director and
formats and things? Might be helpful. Thanks.

Comments/Questions/Amusing ideas to me at this address.

Kind regards,
Roger

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<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>okeydokey, sorry to bore you sports-hallers with 
this:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Wayne 
has been advising me of formats for Sunday and we've decided to do 2 pools of 4, 
with one crossover game each to finish the day off. Pools will be seeded:&nbsp; 
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>A: 1,4,5,8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>B: 2,3,6,7 ;in 
order</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2> that 'semis' have happenned (as opposed to the Tour pools which avoid 
that). </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>Clapham will be entering 2 fairly even teams, and as all teams 
are slightly weakened vis-a-vis Nationals teams the seedings 
are:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>A: 
Clapham A (1), <SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>TeamShark (4), <SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>Smash &amp; Grab<FONT color=#0000ff> (5), <SPAN 
class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>BadHabits<FONT 
color=#0000ff> 
(8)</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>B: Clapham B (2), Fluid Druids (3), Hammerage (6), NightFever 
(7)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The 
council has let us down on the marked pitch front (Boo!) as Paul H seems to have 
developed a confrontational relationship with the rather unfriendly pitches 
person (only joking Paul). Even my silver tongue couldn't make her change her 
mind though so we'll have to make do without (and she was a real b*t*h). It may 
cause some inconvenience but shouldn't be too disruptive. There's plenty of room 
for four pitches and we'll set them up no bother. Four pitches means we can 
finish in 4 time slots and can take it all at a more chilled pace without the 
need to start at 9am or finish in the dark.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The 
pitches will be right by Clapham South tube station and by the pond a few 
hundred yards away.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>10am: 
Captain's meeting</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>10.30am: 1v8, 4v5, 2v7, 3v6</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>11.45am: 1v5, 4v8, 2v6, 3v7</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>1pm: 1v4, 5v8, 2v3, 6v7</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>2.30pm: A1vB1, A2vB2, A3vB3, A4vB4</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>4pm: Derby vs Chelsea &lt;eek&gt; and beers down the George 
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Games 
will be to one hour then finish the point. If one team is more than 2 points 
ahead - game over, otherwise cap to ONE point over the team ahead's total. The 
reason for this is to allow us to keep to schedule whilst still giving team's a 
chance to come back at the last minute. There seem few disadvantages compared to 
a two point cap - teams will just have to start playing harder at 50 minutes and 
realise the one point cap is their Solskjaeresque last chance....Am happy to 
discuss at the captain's meeting. If it's a sudden death - we play penalty 
shootout ending and all other 6 teams gather round in amazement 8-). Only 
exception is the crossover games - where we should play 2 point cap regardless 
of closeness of the ending. Teams that are late can be fined 1 point per 2 
minutes late, and forfeit the game if they're more than 10 minutes late (the 
Committe will decide what to do about point differences).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The 
team that finishes bottom will definitely be relegated and replaced for Matchday 
2 in November. The 7th place team *may* be given the chance to requalify by 
playing the teams lower down the waiting list (which currently consists of 3 
teams: Imperial DiscDoctors, CloudThings, Pyramus &amp; Frisbee) - depending on 
those team's ability/willingness to play one or more qualification games before 
Matchday 2). Ideally those games would happen at a self-organised one-dayer on 
the 10th or 11th of November (and develop into a second division playing out of 
sync with the first division), but unfortunately I don't have the time to 
organise or dictate; if nothing happens you'll be subject to our whim and rather 
limited concept of fairness, sorry but can't think of any alternative. If you'd 
like to add your team to the list for November, you've got until Sunday 10.30am 
to mail me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Forecast is for light rain or cloudy weather. Could team captains please 
supply mobile numbers to me and your teams so that just in case we get hit by 
freak hail storms I can ring the captains and they can get in touch with team 
members. I'll be able to check the weather as I live less than 20 yards from the 
pitches - my mobile number is 07973 620845 but PLEASE DON'T RING B4 8am on pain 
of disqualification and death. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>TOP 
CLAPHAM TIP: Bring a bin liner with your kit - a wonderful and cheap waterproof 
bag with room for your bag and a friend's: if I'd thought of it sooner we'd be 
selling Clapham branded ones at &pound;1 each.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>3 days 
left - pray for no rain, and that NightFever and Hammerage beat Druids! 
;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Kind 
regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
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[mailto:roger.thomson@oyster.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 October 2001 
12:46<BR><B>To:</B> 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com'; 
'Nolan'; 'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; 
philipharveynz@hotmail.com; 'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 
'Porter, Matthew (London)'<BR><B>Cc:</B> britdisc; 
ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com; 
londonleague@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [ClaphamBullfrogs] London Winter 
League News<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><TT>The following teams have secured places at 
the 1st event on Sunday 28th<BR>October; on the basis that they were the first 
to apply, and on the basis<BR>that they're the strongest teams on Nationals 
rankings:<BR><BR>Clapham 1<BR>Druids<BR>TeamShark<BR>Clapham 2<BR>Smash &amp; 
Grab<BR>Hammerage<BR>NightFever<BR>Badhabits<BR><BR>Please could the captains of 
these teams who have been mailing me send a<BR>confirmatory email ASAP (also 
confirming you want to play at the 2nd event).<BR>Final seedings will be 
dictated by how Clapham decide to split their squad.<BR>Format and other details 
will be circulated next week. Expect games to start<BR>on Clapham Common at 10 
or 11am. We are making progress on the pitch<BR>markings and should have 3 
permanently marked pitches in time and all winter<BR>- provided Paul Hurt can 
bully the council into moving faster than their<BR>accustomed glacier pace. Cost 
will be &pound;30/team regardless, no need to send<BR>cheques - please bring 
&pound;&pound;&pound;'s on the day. <BR><BR>Very sorry, the following two teams 
also applied but unfortunately we don't<BR>have space to cater for 
them:<BR>Imperial College Discdoctors<BR>Cloudthings<BR><BR>Please could the 
captains of these two teams confirm that they would still<BR>like to enter the 
2nd event on Sunday 25th November. We will decide very<BR>soon whether there 
will be some form of one-off qualification game against<BR>the relegated teams, 
whether you will get a slot due to having been on the<BR>waiting list, or some 
mixture of the two. Rest assured there will be<BR>relegation of AT LEAST one 
team and one of you, if not both, will get the<BR>chance to play in November: 
the bottom teams in the League really do have<BR>something to play for! 
<BR><BR>Any other teams wanting to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November 
are<BR>still welcome to apply, please do so before the deadline of Sunday 
28th<BR>October.<BR><BR>Pick-up players or ringers please contact the team 
captains directly. There<BR>are no roster rules, and some of the teams will 
probably appreciate quality<BR>ringers because of missing players. <BR><BR>!!! 
Does anyone have scoreboards we could borrow please? Would make the<BR>whole 
thing look a little more organised..!!! While I'm on that subject<BR>doesn't 
someone have a word doc about how to be a Tournament Director and<BR>formats and 
things? Might be helpful. Thanks.<BR><BR>Comments/Questions/Amusing ideas to me 
at this address.<BR><BR>Kind regards,<BR>Roger<BR><BR>CU 
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Sorry to bother you all again.
 
Remember it's the end of BST this weekend, so if you turn up at the Common
at 9.00am you're a muppet. We get an extra hour of sleep, or more likely of
partying on Saturday night :-)
 
God bless Ultimate,
 
Silver Bear
CU #1
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com]
Sent: 25 October 2001 12:28
To: 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com'; 'Nolan';
'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; philipharveynz@hotmail.com;
'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 'Porter, Matthew (London)'
Cc: britdisc; ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com; londonleague@yahoogroups.com
Subject: London Winter League Matchday 1


okeydokey, sorry to bore you sports-hallers with this:
 
Wayne has been advising me of formats for Sunday and we've decided to do 2
pools of 4, with one crossover game each to finish the day off. Pools will
be seeded:  A: 1,4,5,8    B: 2,3,6,7 ;in order that 'semis' have happenned
(as opposed to the Tour pools which avoid that). Clapham will be entering 2
fairly even teams, and as all teams are slightly weakened vis-a-vis
Nationals teams the seedings are:
A: Clapham A (1), TeamShark (4), Smash & Grab (5), BadHabits (8)
B: Clapham B (2), Fluid Druids (3), Hammerage (6), NightFever (7)
 
The council has let us down on the marked pitch front (Boo!) as Paul H seems
to have developed a confrontational relationship with the rather unfriendly
pitches person (only joking Paul). Even my silver tongue couldn't make her
change her mind though so we'll have to make do without (and she was a real
b*t*h). It may cause some inconvenience but shouldn't be too disruptive.
There's plenty of room for four pitches and we'll set them up no bother.
Four pitches means we can finish in 4 time slots and can take it all at a
more chilled pace without the need to start at 9am or finish in the dark.
 
The pitches will be right by Clapham South tube station and by the pond a
few hundred yards away.
 
10am: Captain's meeting
10.30am: 1v8, 4v5, 2v7, 3v6
11.45am: 1v5, 4v8, 2v6, 3v7
1pm: 1v4, 5v8, 2v3, 6v7
2.30pm: A1vB1, A2vB2, A3vB3, A4vB4
4pm: Derby vs Chelsea <eek> and beers down the George 
 
Games will be to one hour then finish the point. If one team is more than 2
points ahead - game over, otherwise cap to ONE point over the team ahead's
total. The reason for this is to allow us to keep to schedule whilst still
giving team's a chance to come back at the last minute. There seem few
disadvantages compared to a two point cap - teams will just have to start
playing harder at 50 minutes and realise the one point cap is their
Solskjaeresque last chance....Am happy to discuss at the captain's meeting.
If it's a sudden death - we play penalty shootout ending and all other 6
teams gather round in amazement 8-). Only exception is the crossover games -
where we should play 2 point cap regardless of closeness of the ending.
Teams that are late can be fined 1 point per 2 minutes late, and forfeit the
game if they're more than 10 minutes late (the Committe will decide what to
do about point differences).
 
The team that finishes bottom will definitely be relegated and replaced for
Matchday 2 in November. The 7th place team *may* be given the chance to
requalify by playing the teams lower down the waiting list (which currently
consists of 3 teams: Imperial DiscDoctors, CloudThings, Pyramus & Frisbee) -
depending on those team's ability/willingness to play one or more
qualification games before Matchday 2). Ideally those games would happen at
a self-organised one-dayer on the 10th or 11th of November (and develop into
a second division playing out of sync with the first division), but
unfortunately I don't have the time to organise or dictate; if nothing
happens you'll be subject to our whim and rather limited concept of
fairness, sorry but can't think of any alternative. If you'd like to add
your team to the list for November, you've got until Sunday 10.30am to mail
me.
 
Forecast is for light rain or cloudy weather. Could team captains please
supply mobile numbers to me and your teams so that just in case we get hit
by freak hail storms I can ring the captains and they can get in touch with
team members. I'll be able to check the weather as I live less than 20 yards
from the pitches - my mobile number is 07973 620845 but PLEASE DON'T RING B4
8am on pain of disqualification and death. 
 
TOP CLAPHAM TIP: Bring a bin liner with your kit - a wonderful and cheap
waterproof bag with room for your bag and a friend's: if I'd thought of it
sooner we'd be selling Clapham branded ones at £1 each.
 
3 days left - pray for no rain, and that NightFever and Hammerage beat
Druids! ;-)
 
Kind regards
Silver Bear
CU #1
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Thomson [mailto:roger.thomson@oyster.com]
Sent: 19 October 2001 12:46
To: 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com'; 'Nolan';
'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; philipharveynz@hotmail.com;
'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 'Porter, Matthew (London)'
Cc: britdisc; ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com; londonleague@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ClaphamBullfrogs] London Winter League News


The following teams have secured places at the 1st event on Sunday 28th
October; on the basis that they were the first to apply, and on the basis
that they're the strongest teams on Nationals rankings:

Clapham 1
Druids
TeamShark
Clapham 2
Smash & Grab
Hammerage
NightFever
Badhabits

Please could the captains of these teams who have been mailing me send a
confirmatory email ASAP (also confirming you want to play at the 2nd event).
Final seedings will be dictated by how Clapham decide to split their squad.
Format and other details will be circulated next week. Expect games to start
on Clapham Common at 10 or 11am. We are making progress on the pitch
markings and should have 3 permanently marked pitches in time and all winter
- provided Paul Hurt can bully the council into moving faster than their
accustomed glacier pace. Cost will be £30/team regardless, no need to send
cheques - please bring £££'s on the day. 

Very sorry, the following two teams also applied but unfortunately we don't
have space to cater for them:
Imperial College Discdoctors
Cloudthings

Please could the captains of these two teams confirm that they would still
like to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November. We will decide very
soon whether there will be some form of one-off qualification game against
the relegated teams, whether you will get a slot due to having been on the
waiting list, or some mixture of the two. Rest assured there will be
relegation of AT LEAST one team and one of you, if not both, will get the
chance to play in November: the bottom teams in the League really do have
something to play for! 

Any other teams wanting to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November are
still welcome to apply, please do so before the deadline of Sunday 28th
October.

Pick-up players or ringers please contact the team captains directly. There
are no roster rules, and some of the teams will probably appreciate quality
ringers because of missing players. 

!!! Does anyone have scoreboards we could borrow please? Would make the
whole thing look a little more organised..!!! While I'm on that subject
doesn't someone have a word doc about how to be a Tournament Director and
formats and things? Might be helpful. Thanks.

Comments/Questions/Amusing ideas to me at this address.

Kind regards,
Roger

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<DIV><SPAN class=652404715-26102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Sorry 
to bother you all again.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=652404715-26102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=652404715-26102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Remember it's the end of BST this weekend, so if you turn up at the 
Common at 9.00am you're a muppet. We get an extra hour of sleep, or more likely 
of partying on Saturday night :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=652404715-26102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=652404715-26102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>God 
bless Ultimate,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=652404715-26102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=652404715-26102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Silver 
Bear</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=652404715-26102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader DIR = LTR><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Roger Thomson 
[mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 25 October 2001 
12:28<BR><B>To:</B> 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com'; 
'Nolan'; 'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; 
philipharveynz@hotmail.com; 'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 
'Porter, Matthew (London)'<BR><B>Cc:</B> britdisc; 
ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com; 
londonleague@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> London Winter League Matchday 
1<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>okeydokey, sorry to bore you sports-hallers with 
this:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Wayne 
has been advising me of formats for Sunday and we've decided to do 2 pools of 4, 
with one crossover game each to finish the day off. Pools will be seeded:&nbsp; 
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>A: 1,4,5,8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>B: 2,3,6,7 ;in 
order</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2> that 'semis' have happenned (as opposed to the Tour pools which avoid 
that). </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>Clapham will be entering 2 fairly even teams, and as all teams 
are slightly weakened vis-a-vis Nationals teams the seedings 
are:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>A: 
Clapham A (1), <SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>TeamShark (4), <SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>Smash &amp; Grab<FONT color=#0000ff> (5), <SPAN 
class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>BadHabits<FONT 
color=#0000ff> 
(8)</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>B: Clapham B (2), Fluid Druids (3), Hammerage (6), NightFever 
(7)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The 
council has let us down on the marked pitch front (Boo!) as Paul H seems to have 
developed a confrontational relationship with the rather unfriendly pitches 
person (only joking Paul). Even my silver tongue couldn't make her change her 
mind though so we'll have to make do without (and she was a real b*t*h). It may 
cause some inconvenience but shouldn't be too disruptive. There's plenty of room 
for four pitches and we'll set them up no bother. Four pitches means we can 
finish in 4 time slots and can take it all at a more chilled pace without the 
need to start at 9am or finish in the dark.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The 
pitches will be right by Clapham South tube station and by the pond a few 
hundred yards away.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>10am: 
Captain's meeting</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>10.30am: 1v8, 4v5, 2v7, 3v6</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>11.45am: 1v5, 4v8, 2v6, 3v7</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>1pm: 1v4, 5v8, 2v3, 6v7</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>2.30pm: A1vB1, A2vB2, A3vB3, A4vB4</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>4pm: Derby vs Chelsea &lt;eek&gt; and beers down the George 
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Games 
will be to one hour then finish the point. If one team is more than 2 points 
ahead - game over, otherwise cap to ONE point over the team ahead's total. The 
reason for this is to allow us to keep to schedule whilst still giving team's a 
chance to come back at the last minute. There seem few disadvantages compared to 
a two point cap - teams will just have to start playing harder at 50 minutes and 
realise the one point cap is their Solskjaeresque last chance....Am happy to 
discuss at the captain's meeting. If it's a sudden death - we play penalty 
shootout ending and all other 6 teams gather round in amazement 8-). Only 
exception is the crossover games - where we should play 2 point cap regardless 
of closeness of the ending. Teams that are late can be fined 1 point per 2 
minutes late, and forfeit the game if they're more than 10 minutes late (the 
Committe will decide what to do about point differences).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The 
team that finishes bottom will definitely be relegated and replaced for Matchday 
2 in November. The 7th place team *may* be given the chance to requalify by 
playing the teams lower down the waiting list (which currently consists of 3 
teams: Imperial DiscDoctors, CloudThings, Pyramus &amp; Frisbee) - depending on 
those team's ability/willingness to play one or more qualification games before 
Matchday 2). Ideally those games would happen at a self-organised one-dayer on 
the 10th or 11th of November (and develop into a second division playing out of 
sync with the first division), but unfortunately I don't have the time to 
organise or dictate; if nothing happens you'll be subject to our whim and rather 
limited concept of fairness, sorry but can't think of any alternative. If you'd 
like to add your team to the list for November, you've got until Sunday 10.30am 
to mail me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Forecast is for light rain or cloudy weather. Could team captains please 
supply mobile numbers to me and your teams so that just in case we get hit by 
freak hail storms I can ring the captains and they can get in touch with team 
members. I'll be able to check the weather as I live less than 20 yards from the 
pitches - my mobile number is 07973 620845 but PLEASE DON'T RING B4 8am on pain 
of disqualification and death. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>TOP 
CLAPHAM TIP: Bring a bin liner with your kit - a wonderful and cheap waterproof 
bag with room for your bag and a friend's: if I'd thought of it sooner we'd be 
selling Clapham branded ones at &pound;1 each.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>3 days 
left - pray for no rain, and that NightFever and Hammerage beat Druids! 
;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Kind 
regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>Silver Bear</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=523030410-25102001><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>CU #1</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader DIR = LTR><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Roger Thomson 
[mailto:roger.thomson@oyster.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 19 October 2001 
12:46<BR><B>To:</B> 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com'; 
'Nolan'; 'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; 
philipharveynz@hotmail.com; 'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 
'Porter, Matthew (London)'<BR><B>Cc:</B> britdisc; 
ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com; 
londonleague@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [ClaphamBullfrogs] London Winter 
League News<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><TT>The following teams have secured places at 
the 1st event on Sunday 28th<BR>October; on the basis that they were the first 
to apply, and on the basis<BR>that they're the strongest teams on Nationals 
rankings:<BR><BR>Clapham 1<BR>Druids<BR>TeamShark<BR>Clapham 2<BR>Smash &amp; 
Grab<BR>Hammerage<BR>NightFever<BR>Badhabits<BR><BR>Please could the captains of 
these teams who have been mailing me send a<BR>confirmatory email ASAP (also 
confirming you want to play at the 2nd event).<BR>Final seedings will be 
dictated by how Clapham decide to split their squad.<BR>Format and other details 
will be circulated next week. Expect games to start<BR>on Clapham Common at 10 
or 11am. We are making progress on the pitch<BR>markings and should have 3 
permanently marked pitches in time and all winter<BR>- provided Paul Hurt can 
bully the council into moving faster than their<BR>accustomed glacier pace. Cost 
will be &pound;30/team regardless, no need to send<BR>cheques - please bring 
&pound;&pound;&pound;'s on the day. <BR><BR>Very sorry, the following two teams 
also applied but unfortunately we don't<BR>have space to cater for 
them:<BR>Imperial College Discdoctors<BR>Cloudthings<BR><BR>Please could the 
captains of these two teams confirm that they would still<BR>like to enter the 
2nd event on Sunday 25th November. We will decide very<BR>soon whether there 
will be some form of one-off qualification game against<BR>the relegated teams, 
whether you will get a slot due to having been on the<BR>waiting list, or some 
mixture of the two. Rest assured there will be<BR>relegation of AT LEAST one 
team and one of you, if not both, will get the<BR>chance to play in November: 
the bottom teams in the League really do have<BR>something to play for! 
<BR><BR>Any other teams wanting to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November 
are<BR>still welcome to apply, please do so before the deadline of Sunday 
28th<BR>October.<BR><BR>Pick-up players or ringers please contact the team 
captains directly. There<BR>are no roster rules, and some of the teams will 
probably appreciate quality<BR>ringers because of missing players. <BR><BR>!!! 
Does anyone have scoreboards we could borrow please? Would make the<BR>whole 
thing look a little more organised..!!! While I'm on that subject<BR>doesn't 
someone have a word doc about how to be a Tournament Director and<BR>formats and 
things? Might be helpful. Thanks.<BR><BR>Comments/Questions/Amusing ideas to me 
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From: Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Dear DoC nominee...
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>Simon Weeks (Director of Competitions or Without Portfolio)
>For those of you who don't know me I have been playing ultimate for over six
>years and currently play with Chevron Action Flash. During this time I have
>organised numerous tournaments including tour events and co-ed nationals. I
>have also represented the BUF as national student co-ordinator. I intend to
>build on the excellent work already undertaken by Chris Hughes, but I
>believe it is too large a task for one person. If elected, I intend to
>appoint individuals to oversee each area of competition. Dividing the
>workload will aid the smooth running of competitions.

As a Tournament Director keen to organise events, with the minimum of
hassle, I've got a particular interest in this one.

Personally, I reckon it's way past time to be looking for dates and
venues for 2002 outdoor season events and organising the Diary.

What particular plans do you have, Si ?

It sounds like you want to set up some kind of group to make the
organisation of the Diary somewhat easier - but how so?

Do you have any plans to do anything controversial?

What are your views on:
- 'Profiteering' from tournaments;
- Potentially clashing Open / Mixed / Women's events;
- Making the Tour more manageable;
- International events (e.g. Paganello; Bruges; Rotterdam; Geneva; Dive
Hard) clashing with major UK events;
- How to encourage new Tournament Directors and venues.

Looking forward to your response,

Wayne 

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For those that were wondering about whether Newport is full yet.

Teams who've entered so far:

Team                    Contact
 1 Strange Blue         Dora Kemp
 2 "Trig's Team"        Andrew 'Trig' Feltham*
 3 Angels               Simon Barry
 4 Mr Men               Damian Mudge
 5 Blue Arse Flies      James 'Balti' Hewitson
 6 Space Monkeys        Tom Candlin
 7 Slipdisc             Katie Little
 8 Oasis                Phil Cooper

So, there are currently spaces for 7 more (and some kind of Druids team,
of course!). Receipt of your entry fee will secure your space.

Reserves:
 1 Slipdisc 2           Katie Little


Regards
Wayne

PS: Trig - I need your contact details!


Wed, 10 Oct 2001, by Wayne Retter <mailto:contact@fluiddruids.com>;
 Subject: Newport Indoors 2002
>Newport Indoor Tournament, 19+20 January 2002
>
>The entry fee for Newport 2002 is GBP 90.00
>Cheques should be payable to "Fluid Druids Ultimate Club"
>
>and mailed to the following address: 
>        Newport Indoor Tournament
>        c/o Wayne Retter
>        8 Avon House
>        Rutland Close
>        Redhill
>        Surrey
>        RH1 1EH
>
>we will also require as much as possible of the following information: 
>
>Team Name:
>Contact Name:
>Contact Address:
>Home phone:
>Home Email:
>Work Phone:
>Work Email: 
>
>We will then confirm receipt of your entry.
>
>If you're particularly worried about its whereabouts, Wayne can be
>contacted:
>phone: 01737-218489
>email: contact@fluiddruids.com
>
>No entries will be confirmed until cheques AND contact details have been
>received - "the cheque's in the mail" is a nice line, but won't help! 
>
>We only have room for 16 teams. 
>
>2nd teams: entries for second (or a second, but equal...) teams will not
>be allowed until 01 January 2000. Any such cheques/details received
>before this date will be held until then before being put onto the
>entrants list. 
>
>We'll be playing all day Saturday (9am to 9pm) and most of Sunday (9am
>to 6pm) 
>
>You will need to find your own accommodation - we can provide none;
>Newport has several B&Bs, and a Travelodge not too far away.
>
>There is no planned evening event. 
>
>Wayne Retter 

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Hello Ladies, 
and those gents who just cannot help themselves.

I will confirm the details on Tuesday.
But voting on the prefererred date for the Tourny has gone like this so far...


of the 13 votes

1/2 December = 2
8/9 December = 5
Either/or's  = 6
Interested but didn't vote = 5

I have to tell the people at the Sports Hall on Tuesday.
So if you wanna add your vote you still have time.

There are 15 teams interested, & several pickup players.

soon
le shark@flyghtclub.com


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Not a physio as such, but an excellent chiropractor/sports bod....

Ralph ...07957 322751

Fully qualified has done some of the tennis etc this year ...(just can't for
the life of me remember his last name)

not only is he good at what he does, he's only £25 / hour...so very
reasonable.  is based in Winchmore Hill...north London

Hope it helps
Fiona

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:50:28 +0100, john purdie wrote:

  Justin
  
  try Lynne Bryden / Rosemary Keer
  
  0973 335072  /  02072674222  / 02074865238
  
  north London - Maida Vale/St Johns Wood/Belsize Park
  
  i have used these people many times and referred many people to them -
  excellent manipulative physios - Lynne certainly should know about
Ultimate
  now!
  
  However, if you want a sports doctor / good orthop' surgeon try Colin
Crosby
  02082030111 (beware, he is not cheap!) - otherwise give our very own Dr
Paul
  Marfleet a call - wk 01206 570 371 (this was my last number for him)
  
  good luck
  
  ttfn John Purdie
  
  > From: "Justin Parkhurst" <justin_parkhurst@hotmail.com>
  > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:40:15 +0000
  > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
  > Subject: London Physio?
  > 
  > HI
  > 
  > Sorry to bother britdisc with a personal question - but it is Ultimate
  > related, so I don't think I'm pushing it too far...
  > 
  > Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good physiotherapist
in
  > London (central or North ideally) who might be good with a) Ultimate
related
  > injuries and/or b) knees.  After 2 tournaments where I have had to sit
out
  > games (or whole days) from knee problems I have decided to seek
professional
  > advice.
  > (kinda feels like tendonitis - doesn't hurt while running but when I
stop
  > its sore and then gets worse after sitting down - any activity esp.
stairs
  > in the following weeks makes it sore again - if anyone has specific
  > experience with this, do get in touch).
  > 
  > So if you do know of someone, please let me know on:
  > justin_parkhurst@hotmail.com
  > 
  > Cheers
  > 
  > -Justin
  > BAF Open (not that you'd know if from how little I've been able to play
from
  > this damn thing...)
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Angels are intending to host the indoor SE regional as usual in February, at 
Brixton Rec Centre where it was held last year.  Thing is, that we need to 
book the hall now, but usually there is a tender for bids.  Which hasn't 
happened yet cos there aren't any BUF/A officers to do it.

There is not usually a counter bid to ours, and if we don't book it now we 
will lose the venue, there is no DoC to give the Chris Hughes Personal 
Benediction of Approval.

I think it should be booked now, but I don't want someone crawling out of 
the woodwork in the new year saying they want to host it at the new BT 
Cellnet Superdrome in Letchworth or whatever.

So does anyone have any thought of hosting an event that might clash/compete 
with this one???

If I have heard nothing by Wed then I'll book it unless anyone with a wise 
head can think of a reason not to.

I would appreciate any response or feedback.

Si Barry/Angels

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All,

Apologies to all those on Britdisc not interested in Ego Wang...

Captains Meeting = 09.00 in the Rec Centre Main Hall

Ego Wang Fest Teams - FINAL Team List
01   BAF
02   BAF Too
03   Whiplash
04   Fission
05   Mexican Horse Bandits
06   TeamShark
07   Slipdisc
08   Mild Mannered Janitors
09   Bears 1
10   Rhapsody Angels
11   Nightfever
12   Space Monkeys
13   Oasis
14   Venom
15   Fly TNT
16   Kamaya Maya
17   Hammerage
18   Mwnci See
19   Red
20   Yo Mama
21   Bad Habits
22   No Frills
23   Destiny Angels
24   Bears 2

RESERVES
a    STD
b    No Frills 2
c    Canterbury

Directions to Ego Wang Fest - Rec Centre:
>From Cheltenham Racecourse:
- As you come into Cheltenham at the first roundabout (with the racecourse
on it) take the last exit (Swindon Lane) down a small road.
- Take the second turning on the left, Tommy Taylor's Lane.
- Keep going until you reach the Rec Centre on your left

Directions from M5 South:
- Turn off the motorway at Junction 11, it will be marked as Regency
Cheltenham. Head for the centre of town.
- Once on the dual carriageway you want the left lane as you come to the
first r'bout (with G.C.H.Q on it) go straight over.
- Keep going until the next roundabout; go left, NOT TO TOWN CENTRE.
- You will reach Coronation Square, pass the Red Lion pub on right and take
the second exit. It is a square roundabout - you'll see what I mean.
- Go down this road, mind the speed cameras, till you get to the
MacDonald's roundabout. Go straight over.
** Keep going till you see mini roundabout take right lane and go right,
the Cheltenham Bowling Alley is over the roundabout.
- Go over a narrow bridge and down road. At the mini roundabout bear left.
- Go past the Folly sportsfields (on your left)
- Straight over the next mini r'bout (first exit)
- Past Hardwick Campus
- Under the railway bridge
- Left into Folly Lane
- Rec Centre is about 200 yards down on your right hand side

Directions M5 North:

- Come off at Junction 10.
- Turn left onto road, keep going straight through two junctions, with
traffic lights, keep going until you get to Macdonald's roundabout
- Turn left and follow instructions from ** above.

If you get lost then give me a call - 07747 844401

Balti
BAF 34

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''Not a physio as such''
   Unfortunately, the term 'physiotherapist' is still unprotected. Any of you 
could do a weekend course and then put up a sign saying you are a physio. 
When looking for qualifications, ignore the number and variety of letters! If 
you want a degree physio, ie one with a full 3year course and then further 
experience, your therapist should have the letters MCSP. If they also have 
ACPSM then they have a further qualification in sports physio. There are  
plethora of other therapists qualifications ranging from weekend courses 
,through 6 week to 2 year modular courses up to 2 year full time courses. I 
could only recommend MCSP although I couldn't possibly comment on the 
individual skills of other practitioners.
Also, Colin Crosby is a good guy but he's not an orthopaedic surgeon.
Look for the letters Dip Sports Med or MSc in Sports Med. when looking for a 
sports doctor. I'm very happy to recommend people in your area if anyone 
wants to mail me.

Paul

Dr Paul Marfleet (DIP. Sports Med!!)

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>''Not a physio as such''
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;Unfortunately, the term 'physiotherapist' is still unprotected. Any of you could do a weekend course and then put up a sign saying you are a physio. 
<BR>When looking for qualifications, ignore the number and variety of letters! If you want a degree physio, ie one with a full 3year course and then further experience, your therapist should have the letters MCSP. If they also have ACPSM then they have a further qualification in sports physio. There are &nbsp;plethora of other therapists qualifications ranging from weekend courses ,through 6 week to 2 year modular courses up to 2 year full time courses. I could only recommend MCSP although I couldn't possibly comment on the individual skills of other practitioners.
<BR>Also, Colin Crosby is a good guy but he's not an orthopaedic surgeon.
<BR>Look for the letters Dip Sports Med or MSc in Sports Med. when looking for a sports doctor. I'm very happy to recommend people in your area if anyone wants to mail me.
<BR>
<BR>Paul
<BR>
<BR>Dr Paul Marfleet (DIP. Sports Med!!)</FONT></HTML>

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All,

In a radical departure from the usual indoor approach of "play for 20
minutes hang around for 2 hours waiting for your next game" we have decided
to split the pool games on Saturday into morning (09.15 - 13.55) and
afternoon (13.55 - 17.30) sessions.

We have attempted to seed teams in such a way as to make "travelling
arrangements" as easy as possible - so in certain circumstance teams have
had their seedings shuffled by a few places to accomodate this...

Pools, Start Times & Seedings:

POOL A - MORNING:
01 - 09.15 - Mexican Horse Bandits
07 - 09.15 - Space Monkeys
10 - 09.55 - Nightfever
16 - 09.15 - No Frills
17 - 09.15 - Slipdisc
23 - 09.55 - FlyTNT

POOL B - MORNING:
02 - 09.35 - Blue Arse Flies
08 - 09.35 - Yo Mama
09 - 10.15 - Oasis
15 - 09.35 - Kamaya Maya
18 - 09.35 - Mwnci See
24 - 10.15 - Red

POOL C - AFTERNOON
03 - 13.55 - Teamshark
05 - 13.55 - Fission
12 - 13.55 - Bears 1
14 - 13.55 - Venom
19 - 13.55 - Bad Habits
21 - 13.55 - Destiny Angels

POOL D - AFTERNOON
04 - 14.15 - Hammerage
06 - 14.15 - Rhapsody Angels
11 - 14.15 - Whiplash
13 - 14.15 - MMJ
20 - 14.15 - BAF Too
22 - 14.15 - Bears 2

There will be a quick captains meeting at 9am and another at 1.45pm to hand
out detailed schedules and other useful info

See You All On Saturday

Balti
BAF 34

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Some 'open' questions for anyone standing for positions on the 
'board'....please,
..and they're all about medical cover!
1.Where do you place the provision of medical cover in your plans for the 
future of UKUltimate?
2. Should the provision of medical facilities at an official UKU Tournament 
have a defined and mandatory level? (are athletes entitled to expect expert 
medical cover at an official Tournament and could he/she successfully sue if, 
after paying to enter, he/she was injured as a result of lack of facilities?)
3. What level of medical/sports medicine/physio cover does UKU want at 
national level. At what point might UKU wish to employ its medical cover 
(I've never charged, but if Ultimate gets increasingly 'professional' then 
money will have to enter the equation as the medical support team will almost 
certainly be taking this sort of job/employment as their primary source of 
working income)
4. Does UKU at national level want pre-competition medical/fitness screening?
5. Where do you stand on the isue of drugs in sport? Should UKU have plans to 
incorporate specific rules regarding drugs/drug testing. 

Thanks

Paul

Dr Paul Marfleet
Colchester

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Some 'open' questions for anyone standing for positions on the 'board'....please,
<BR>..and they're all about medical cover!
<BR>1.Where do you place the provision of medical cover in your plans for the future of UKUltimate?
<BR>2. Should the provision of medical facilities at an official UKU Tournament have a defined and mandatory level? (are athletes entitled to expect expert medical cover at an official Tournament and could he/she successfully sue if, after paying to enter, he/she was injured as a result of lack of facilities?)
<BR>3. What level of medical/sports medicine/physio cover does UKU want at national level. At what point might UKU wish to employ its medical cover (I've never charged, but if Ultimate gets increasingly 'professional' then money will have to enter the equation as the medical support team will almost certainly be taking this sort of job/employment as their primary source of working income)
<BR>4. Does UKU at national level want pre-competition medical/fitness screening?
<BR>5. Where do you stand on the isue of drugs in sport? Should UKU have plans to incorporate specific rules regarding drugs/drug testing. 
<BR>
<BR>Thanks
<BR>
<BR>Paul
<BR>
<BR>Dr Paul Marfleet
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Paul & Others,

If elected I would push for a complete review of our medical, safety and insurance provision.

Many university clubs are now required to supply their unions with a risk assessment of some form. Most venues want to see civil liability insurance cover (which we have) We are intending to offer personal accident cover as part of the UK Ultimate membership package though obviously thats not the same as proper preventative measures.

I think there is a strong case for professional medical cover at big tournaments and I would like to see this happen. I think however that we must not overkill and insist on this at *all* events otherwise the fun events will get much more expensive.

Two other things I would like to see are:-

1. A full set of health and safety guidelines for clubs and event organisers.

2. An audit of injuries sustained by players with the aim of identifying and reducing the major sources of risk.

I don't claim to know a huge amount about sports medicine but I was a medical audit clerk in a previous job. I very much hope we can call upon the experience of someone who works in the field (I think we're talking someone with at least a Dip Sports Med or even an MSc in Sports Med!!!  ;-)

Is there a doctor in the house?

Ben



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From: Marfleet11@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 06:24:34 EST

>Some 'open' questions for anyone standing for positions on the 
>'board'....please,
>..and they're all about medical cover!
>1.Where do you place the provision of medical cover in your plans for the 
>future of UKUltimate?
>2. Should the provision of medical facilities at an official UKU Tournament 
>have a defined and mandatory level? (are athletes entitled to expect expert 
>medical cover at an official Tournament and could he/she successfully sue if, 
>after paying to enter, he/she was injured as a result of lack of facilities?)
>3. What level of medical/sports medicine/physio cover does UKU want at 
>national level. At what point might UKU wish to employ its medical cover 
>(I've never charged, but if Ultimate gets increasingly 'professional' then 
>money will have to enter the equation as the medical support team will almost 
>certainly be taking this sort of job/employment as their primary source of 
>working income)
>4. Does UKU at national level want pre-competition medical/fitness screening?
>5. Where do you stand on the isue of drugs in sport? Should UKU have plans to 
>incorporate specific rules regarding drugs/drug testing. 
>
>Thanks
>
>Paul
>
>Dr Paul Marfleet
>Colchester
>
>

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There was talk of an employee of the BUF/A, is this still planned to happen 
and if so how?

Will the applicant, due to be employed by all of us, need to be voted in? Or 
is this something we can trust the board with?

Also, I remember the EFA (Eton Fives Association - ask if you want!) a while 
ago having a large problem in that it too wanted to have an employee. 
Apparently all memebers are their employer and therefore equally liable to 
any lawsuit they might bring up (Adam Batchelor is standing!)

Just remembered this, please shoot me down if I'm wasting everyone's inbox 
space.

Angie

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Anna Winter, Chris Hughes, Laura Pearce

I'm writing to you guys especially as you specifically mentioned
women in ultimate although this is really for anyone to write about. How do
you think you could encourage women who are beginning to play to remain
motivated to stay in a somewhat male-dominated sport? I'm speaking
particularly with regards to student ultimate. I was thinking along the
lines of introducing student co-ed tournaments rather than open. 

What do you think?

Leanne Deffley

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I think it is a great idea - 

If you want it - go and do it.  

The more people who get off there arses and set up clubs and organise
Tournaments the better - coed, women and open.

I don't mean to be rude, but don't ask, just make it happen.

Milk - TeamShark

-----Original Message-----
From: Deffley Leanne [mailto:ECSLDEFF@livjm.ac.uk]
Sent: 30 October 2001 13:51
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Women!


Anna Winter, Chris Hughes, Laura Pearce

I'm writing to you guys especially as you specifically mentioned
women in ultimate although this is really for anyone to write about. How do
you think you could encourage women who are beginning to play to remain
motivated to stay in a somewhat male-dominated sport? I'm speaking
particularly with regards to student ultimate. I was thinking along the
lines of introducing student co-ed tournaments rather than open. 

What do you think?

Leanne Deffley

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IF YOU ARE NOT A STUDENT IN THE SOUTH WEST AREA THEN DELETE NOW.

This years Wales and South West student regionals will be hosted by 
Cardiff University in the Talybont sports hall on the 24/25 November.

We hope to have a 24 team tournament with 3 pitches. This of course 
depends on the number of teams that each club may bring, as I 
understand it their are no new clubs this year so the region still 
consists of:

Cardiff - No Frills
Bristol - Mythago
UWE
Bath - BLT
Southampton - Skunks
Exeter - Uriel
Plymouth - Picnic

This would mean that each team would be required to bring 3.428 teams 
each although I'm sure some clubs would like to enter 4 and others 
only 2. If we unable to get 24 teams then it would probably get 
knocked down to 20 teams for convenience.

The plan is to play 3 pools of 8 and then work out some sort of cross 
over system before going into top/middle/bottom 8 K.O's. (I'm sure 
somebody has worked out a system for this, Jon ?)

As the number of teams is yet undecided the exact cost can't be 
calculated allthough expect to work on a £70 /team cost.

Therefore within the next week (deadline Monday night) I will need to 
hear from each club with the number of teams they hope to bring and 
contact details for your club as I WILL NOT BE POSTING ANY FURTHER 
DETAILS ON BRITDISC OR EGROUPS. 

Speak to you soon
Stuart Austin
No Frills

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Andy &co,

Having looked at the constitution of UK Ultimate at http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/const.htm please let me know if you can see any legal problems. 

I have accounted for Employers liability insurance in the association proposal (http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.htm) 

With his experience of running a company I would think Adam Batchelor would be in a good position to help us get this right actually. Mind you, they say the only difference between a criminal and a policeman is the uniform!  ;-)

Ben


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Andy Cox" <andycox23@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:53:01 

>There was talk of an employee of the BUF/A, is this still planned to happen 
>and if so how?
>
>Will the applicant, due to be employed by all of us, need to be voted in? Or 
>is this something we can trust the board with?
>
>Also, I remember the EFA (Eton Fives Association - ask if you want!) a while 
>ago having a large problem in that it too wanted to have an employee. 
>Apparently all memebers are their employer and therefore equally liable to 
>any lawsuit they might bring up (Adam Batchelor is standing!)
>
>Just remembered this, please shoot me down if I'm wasting everyone's inbox 
>space.
>
>Angie
>
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From: "Barry O'Kane" <barry.okane@visitscotland.com>
To: "James Hammersley" <hammersleyj@shreeveport.com>,
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Milk,

I totally agree with the sentiment, but there is more to it than that.  We
need to have an overview (which is were the board would come in), by this I
mean a longer term development plan for the issues like encouraging more
women to play.  One of the roles of the board would be to encourage more
people to get involved by making their job easier and clearer, and ensuring
that when people "get off there arses" their effort is fully supported and
really makes a difference nationally.

I believe that this is the most exciting possibility of the new
association - the chance to really develop every aspect of Ultimate (medical
cover and understanding, more women's and co-ed, better tournaments for all
divisions, introducing ultimate to new areas, junior development, coaching -
the list is near endless) without neglecting anything and with a long term
view.


Leanne asked about women's ultimate:
- to keep more women playing ultimate we need to continue to raise the
profile of when women play, the success of the mixed tour has started this
process - but Leanne is right more, better, higher profile mixed events
(tour, students, junior) would help.  Women's ultimate should be given a
higher profile too.


Paul asked about medical cover:
- like Ben I firmly believe that national tournaments and teams should have
the best level of medical cover we can arrange, and therefore should have a
required minimum level of cover.  Although this may not be possible for more
local events; UK Ultimate would have to provide guidelines and advice.
- Drugs is not an issue from which UK Ultimate should shy away.  This is of
particular relevance to juniors and covers all types of drugs (recreational
and alcohol included ;).  I would like to see the board produce "recommended
codes of conduct" for tournament directors and (especially) junior team
organisers.
- I also believe that we should be encouraging team captains and coaches to
have an understanding of Ultimate injury prevention and recovery.  The
yellow book is by far the best Ultimate specific example of this I have seen
(it is very highly rated in Australia too!) We have several doctors in the
house - we should use that resource.


Thanks for reading all the way!

Barry

PS Vote for me ;)




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of James Hammersley
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:11 PM
> To: 'Deffley Leanne'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Women!
>
>
> I think it is a great idea -
>
> If you want it - go and do it.
>
> The more people who get off there arses and set up clubs and organise
> Tournaments the better - coed, women and open.
>
> I don't mean to be rude, but don't ask, just make it happen.
>
> Milk - TeamShark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deffley Leanne [mailto:ECSLDEFF@livjm.ac.uk]
> Sent: 30 October 2001 13:51
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Women!
>
>
> Anna Winter, Chris Hughes, Laura Pearce
>
> I'm writing to you guys especially as you specifically mentioned
> women in ultimate although this is really for anyone to write
> about. How do
> you think you could encourage women who are beginning to play to remain
> motivated to stay in a somewhat male-dominated sport? I'm speaking
> particularly with regards to student ultimate. I was thinking along the
> lines of introducing student co-ed tournaments rather than open.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Leanne Deffley
>

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Leanne and all,

Encouraging women to stick with the sport during and after 
university would certainly mean that there was a larger pool of 
female players in the UK, although it isn't the only way to get more 
women playing, obviously. 

I thought about this quite a bit when starting the regional student 
women's team, the aim of which was to encourage more women of 
all standards from more universities to play. I thought if women 
across the region got to know each other better they were more 
likely to form friendships, join together to form new teams and be 
more likely to stay playing. It also would provide an opportunity to 
improve skills without the scrutiny of the lads (we love them, but 
surely I'm not the only women out there who feels under twice as 
much pressure with blokes around because I feel like I have 
something to prove to them as well as having the game to play). If 
every region had one or two women's teams at least this would 
guarantee some kind of national student competition for women 
each year, with enough teams to make it  viable. 

In terms of co-ed student games... (and this may well start a 
row)... the problem we had playing co-ed as a student team was 
that the blokes all handled, played homeboy and looked off the 
women for the most part. I know that that isn't how it should be but 
I think until the skill gap between male and female players at 
student level is bridged somewhat it is hard to compete together. 
They don't throw to us because they don't trust we'll make the 
catch (this is horribly "them and us", but please look beyond that!), 
we don't get the disc much and so don't improve, they don't throw 
to us because we wont make the catch... and so on. A vicious 
circle.

 I don't disagree with what Leanne has proposed - the more 
Ultimate the merrier, but at student level I really think women need 
something specifically for them to make them feel like there is a 
real potential for them as players, the opportunity to play and 
something to play for, because it isn't winning Student Nationals for 
most of us lasses.

Sorry to any graduates who had to suffer my student rant, I'll grow 
out of it (hopefully).

Cheers,

Anna.
BAPS - Northern Student Women.

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Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
feel very sorry for Anna.

If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them.  I
appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
it's a start.

A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
necessary).

By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
players, not just players without breasts...

Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
unless we have some university that's willing to host
co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
those horrid things we call finals...

Okay, had my tuppence, back to work

nicole
mohawks

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BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY 


See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates.

Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

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03 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - EGO WANG FEST 2001

Location: Cheltenham Rec Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


16-20 Teams

Entry Fee - £95

Cheques Payable to "Blue Arse Flies"

James 'Balti' Hewitson

8 Middletons Close, Eddington, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 0HQ

Main Email: jehewitson@vizzavi.net

Alternative Email: James.Hewitson@uk.zurich.com

Mobile: 07747 844401

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03 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON MINI TOURNAMENT

Location: Southampton Uni - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

A 12 team mini tournament for two half days. Focusing on beginners tournament will be great for any fun loving ultimate players. Priority / Invites goes out to teams who played last year.



http://www.skunksultimate.co.uk/mini2001/index.htm


Andrew Feltham ( Trigger )

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Alternative Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380 678866

Work Phone: 01962815169

Mobile: 07786384009

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10 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - EDINBURGH BEGINNERS' TOURNAMENT

Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate]


HUGE indoor tournament with space for 32 teams of beginners (less than 3 months Ultimate experience) and their 'experienced' coaches.


Lindsay Cuthbertson

Flat 1F2, 6 Lauriston Gardens, Edinburgh, EH3 9HJ, 

Main Email: l.f.cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk

Home Phone: 0131 228 2359

Mobile: 07776 187819

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24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - W & SW STUDENT REGIONALS

Location: Cardiff University - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Wales and south West regional qualifiers, 24 team indoor tournament. Top 3 teams going through to nationals. Tournament to be the same place as last time but bigger.


Stuart Austin

2 Monthermer rd, Cathays, Cardiff, , CF24 4QW

Main Email: AustinSR@cardiff.ac.uk

Alternative Email: Stuart@austin.gs

Home Phone: 029 20256285

Work Phone: N/A

Mobile: N/A

Fax: N/A

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24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS

Location: LEEDS GRAMMAR SCHOOL - [Indoor Ultimate]


SPACES FOR 20 TEAMS
COST £95
CHEQUES PAYABLE TO LEEDS ULTIMATE 

SEND TO
LEEDS ULTIMATE
42 RICHMOND MOUNT
HEADINGLEY
LS6 1DF

LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, WEST YORKSHIRE, LS6 1DF

Main Email: asharma43@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

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25 NOVEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON WINTER LEAGUE: MATCHDAY 2

Location: Clapham Common - [Outdoor Ultimate]



The 2nd event of the London Winter League. There will be 3 or 4 more events in the series after Christmas - culminating in a bish-bash-bosh grand finale. Relegation and qualification after every event so any team can apply and play qualification games or sit on the waiting list! 



Roger Thomson

19 Clapham Mansions, Nightingale Lane, London , , SW4 9AQ

Main Email: roger.thomson@oyster.com

Home Phone: 020 8772 1986

Mobile: 07973 620845

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - MIDLANDS STUDENT QUALIFIERS

Location: Loughborough University - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Loughborough is the host for the Midlands Student Qualifiers for the second year running. Amazing facilities. 4 halls. Huge union party. Room for 32 teams. Ex - student division as well. Purple Haze, Jesters, Fish already interested. Anyone welcome.


http://www.uniservity.net/club_homepage.asp?clubid=995


Luke Smith

55 William St, Loughborough, Leics, , LE11 3BX

Main Email: L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01509 560121

Mobile: 07754 531706

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM FEMME FEST

Location: Clifton Campus, Nottingham - [Indoor Ultimate]


All Women and Femme Teams are invited to enter a Womens' competition.
Accomodation available, party on the Saturday Nite.
Cost is probably £75, Please contact asap if you feel you can enter a team or would like to pickup.
16 Teams places available
If we fill it, I can arrange a discount, so no messing around.
Support Us so we can Support You



http://pending


sam

62a Nottingham Road, Basford, Nottingham, , NG7 7AH

Main Email: shark@flyghtclub.com

Alternative Email: xxxx@flyghtclub.com

Mobile: 07866 336643

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ANOTHER 24 HOUR CHARITY TOURNAMENT

Location: Latymer Upper School, Hammersmith, London - [Indoor Ultimate]


Open for twelve teams playing twelve games each.  That gives each team 4 hours of indoor play spread over 24 hours.
The entry requirement is that each team raise at least £200 for charity.  Charity TBA - probably 'Shelter'.


Charlie Ben-Nathan

Main Email: chuckaway@aol.com

Alternative Email: cbn@latymer-upper.org

Home Phone: 020 8992 1996

Work Phone: 020 8741 1851

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - WINNER STAYS ON (INVITATIONAL)

Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate]


Invitational only

The concept is simple - Winner stays on! Want to win the tournament? Win the last game of the day.


Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

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02 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SE STUDENT REGIONALS

Location: Sportscentre, University of Sussex - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

SE student regionals
16 teams, two halls, music all day + food, party till 2.
£75 team.
preference to 1st teams until friday 9th nov
accomodation

http://www.mohawks.co.uk


matt 'juan' cutler

72 Washington Street, Brighton, E. Sussex, , BN2 9SR

Main Email: captain@mohawks.co.uk

Home Phone: 01273 697061

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08 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON SAVAGE 7

Location: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Date: Saturday December 8th
 
Description: The London Savage 7 will be a tournament such as the UK has never seen. An amazing venue, the challenge of a savage 7 tournament in December, and its proximity to central London all make for what promises to be the start of something special. The LS7 will be a one day tournament with 12 teams guaranteed a minimum of three games each. There will also be a mini guts tournament (5 players per side) open to those interested. There is no coed requirement. Spectators are welcomed and encouraged...its not too often you get to see ultimate played in a venue such as...
 
Venue: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre. This is a rare opportunity to play Ultimate in a 16,000 seat stadium with the last rounds under the lights. Men and women's changing rooms will be available with showers. For more information, check out www.crystalpalace.co.uk.
 
Schedule: Captains' meeting is at 8:30 AM sharp. The first round of pool play will begin at 9:00 AM sharp. The finals will start at 5:00 PM and there will be an awards ceremony in the Bar at 6:45 PM. The bar will close at 11:00 pm and there will be a late night venue recommendation in central London.
 
Teams: We ask that each team bring 7 playing members and one non-playing member if possible. We will have tournament helpers on the sidelines taking player stats during every game and we'd like the non-playing member to help them out with who is who. They will receive a tourney disc for helping out.
 
Registration: To register for this tournament email info@hammerage.com with your intent. The first 12 teams to send the registration fee via check will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament. Team registration is 165 pounds for the Ultimate tournament with guts and 140 pounds for teams who do not wish to take part in the mini guts tournament. Proceeds from the mini guts tournament will be donated to charity. These fees break down to 20 pounds per player for the Ultimate tournament and 5 pounds per player for the guts tournament. Make your check out to "Hammerage Ultimate Club" and send it via post to Ken Lambert, Ground Floor Flat, 58 Sinclair Road, London W14 0NH. 
 
Food: There is a Bar serving food and drinks within the stadium that will be open from noon until 11:00 PM. Teams will be provided with water and bananas.
 
Accommodation: There are 86 rooms in an accommodation block within the Sports Centre. These rooms are similar in price and amenities to a Travelodge. There will be players who choose to stay there on Friday night before the tourney to avoid the trip down on Saturday morning. To book a room, contact Crystal Palace at 02087767744.
 
Brought to you by Hammerage Ultimate, Regent's Park, London - www.hammerage.com
 

none


Ken Lambert

GFF 58 Sinclair Road, London, W14 0NH, , 

Main Email: info@hammerage.com

Mobile: 07900492202

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15 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SKUNKS CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT

Location: Southampton Uni - [Indoor Ultimate]





Andrew Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Alternative Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380678866

Work Phone: 01962815169

Mobile: 07786384009

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19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

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26 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS TOURNAMENT

Location: University of Warwick - [Indoor Ultimate]


Come and join us for another excellent Bears tournament in our clubs 25th year. We have space for 16 teams costing £95 per team. More information nearer the time. 


Mike 'JD' Dodd

Flat 23 Hurst Residence, University of Warwick, , , CV4 7AL

Main Email: esuqo@csv.warwick.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mikejdodd@yahoo.com

Mobile: 07855596639

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Hi BD,

I have just a couple of points which I think might help, well at least they
should be taken into consideration.
There is quite a simple reason why generally the skill level of the men who
compete is higher than that of the women who compete. And please note the word
general in the previous line. When men start to learn to play those who become
good work harder than women who start at the same time. From my experince you
will often find guys who have just started out in the park throwing around away
from practice, you will rarley find the women doing the same! Now, I think the
way to narrow the skill gap is encourage women to put as much effort in, I know
that the culture surrounding sport is quite different for men and women, but if
everyone is to compete at the same level, then everyone has to put in the same
effort!
Those who are now envolved in student ultimate and have a new crop of women to
teach should encourage them to take what they've been tought and practice,
practice, practice! Then we can see what most of us want. More Co-ed ultimate of
the standard which people want to play and watch.

Just a few thoughts,
Paul Eastman

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I took some photos of the Clapham-Sharks game on Sunday.
Click here to have a look:-

http://www.JonsPhotos.org.uk/ultimate/winterleague/index.html

Thanks to Roger and Clapham for organizing the winter league.

Jon
S&G





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Inspired out of jealousy of the London Winter League, a few of us here in the North would like to emulate this by setting up an outdoor winter competition of our own.
We already have a venue in mind here in Leeds, so now we just need lots of people to say whether they can bring players from their club on certain dates. Depending on numbers, we could have a straight competition, a hat tournament or some kind of hybrid. Ideally, we'd like to have a competition between several evenly balanced teams that can continue into further. The advantage of mixing up players from different teams is that the competition is more even and less experienced players get to learn from more experienced players.
We would like to get an event in before Christmas, although we're aware that we're quickly running out of weekends. A quick glance at the events reminder suggests that a one day event on either 17th or 18th of November might be possible.
Remember that the London lot probably have to travel for ages through heavy traffic and bad pollution to get to their event, so it should be much easier to travel through the scenery and fresh air of of the wonderful North. We're inviting anyone from places such as Leeds, York, Sheffield, Hull, Durham, Manchester, Chester, Nottingham or anyone else who thinks they can make it. Furthermore, if you think you can run a similar event in the New Year, then let us know.
Please can anyone who thinks they can bring a team, or just themselves, to Leeds for a one day event, email me to express interest. Can you also let me know whether you can make it on 17th or 18th of November.
Thanks

Ben Mitchell
(Chevron Action Flash)
b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk

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NEWSFLASH: Sharks and Druids throw away leads against Clapham 1 and 2
respectively in their pool games; Druids losing to Clapham 2 in a penalty
shoot-out ending at 12-12. Clapham 2 pay for failing to convert possesion in
the final into a 2 point lead - Clapham 1 grind out a 13-10 final victory.
NightFever get 6 off Clapham 2, confound seedings and avoid relegation by
spanking Hammerage 13-5. No rain, lots of beer afterwards! 
Thanks all for coming down and making it a great day. Everyone seems to
think it all went off rather well :-). Only 10 mins late as well, what's
wrong? 
Full results: 
A: Clapham A (1), TeamShark (4), Smash & Grab (5), BadHabits (8) 
B: Clapham B (2), Fluid Druids (3), Hammerage (6), NightFever (7)10am:
Captain's meeting 
10.30am: 1v8(13-3), 4v5(13-4), 2v7(13-6), 3v6(13-3) 
11.45am: 1v5(13-1), 4v8(13-3), 2v6(13-2), 3v7(13-2) 
1pm: 1v4(12-10), 5v8(13-5), 2v3(13-12), 6v7(5-13) 
2.30pm: A1vB1(13-10), A2vB2(13-11), A3vB3(13-8), A4vB4(13-5) 
Dougie and I spent a while pondering the best methods for giving out points.
Our favourite proposed scoring method is: 
1/ For each game, number of points your team scored plus the goal difference
if you win. This gives losing teams the incentive to score as many as they
can, as well as the winning team an incentive to win by as much as possible.

2/ No quadrupling or doubling of points for the final or semi. 
3/ 80 points for coming 1st, 70 for 2nd........10 for 8th. This stretches
the gap between finishing positions a bit to avoid the previously discussed
non-linearities of 3rd getting more points than 2nd (and 5th more than 4th
etc etc) unless they really get some significantly more resounding victories
(which they didn't). We tried lots of combinations of quadrupling points,
not point difference and all sorts of things, but couldn't think of anything
better. 
Points read: 
Clapham 1 - 158 
Clapham 2 - 138 
Fluid Druids - 134 
TeamShark - 116 
Smash & Grab - 84 
NightFever - 67 
Hammerage - 51 
BadHabits - 26 
These point scores reflect the relative closenesses of games and teams
pretty well. Druids get nearly as many points as Clapham 2 because they had
a 1 point better goal difference in pool play and only lost the 'semi' by 1.
Team Shark were a bit further behind because they were too soft on the easy
teams in their pool and didn't get within 2 of Clapham 1 or Druids. The four
lower placed teams were fairly linear - except Habits who were a bit further
behind. We'll probably continue to frig the points in the future as well -
in order to test out scoring methods for the benefit of others who may want
to try similar systems in the future.
Please comment on the next two provisional dates: Matchday 3 - 5th or 12th
January, Matchday 4 - 10th or 17th February. Whaddya fink? 
RELEGATION AND QUALIFICATION:
Still being debated exactly how to do this. Have 4 teams on the waiting
list. Congrats to NightFever for avoiding the battle! 
Oh - there was some Lost Property, but I err, <eek> lost it in the pub after
too many beers </eek>. I'm sure someone else must have picked it up. The
only thing I still have is a Czech T-shirt that I think is Carthorse's. Next
time I will appoint a Lost Property monitor I promise. Surely this is an
Ultimate first, lol!
Thanks again for making it a great day, and a step forward for Ultimate in
the South. Thanks to the North for paying it such a gracious compliment... 
Cheers, 
Roger
CU#1
PS - thanks for the photos Jon.
PPS - I'm still waiting for the video, you-know-who!
PPPS - Like the idea of having one of the events on a Saturday so we can go
dancing and drinking afterwards, will consider later.


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Usual apologies if you get this twice.

TO EVERYONE COMING TO BEGINNERS:

Thanks to those few teams that have sent me details of numbers of players 
coming up - it would be really useful if everyone else could do the same thing.

We are having some problems with accommodation (what with half of our beginners 
being in halls and the size of Edinburgh flats) so we're asking (nicely!) that 
you take this into consideration when choosing the size of your team.  We don't 
want to have to cap team sizes, since I know some people have already booked 
trains, but we'd ask that you try to bring no more than 12 people if at all 
possible (10 would be just great).

Believe me, I'm not trying to spark a torrent of abuse from BD (I'm sure I'll 
manage that in some other way ; ), its just that we'd rather be able to fit 
people in than make them pay for B&B's.

Directions will be posted on BD in the next few days. Any problems, you know 
where I am (and, actually, where I live, which is slightly more scary), or you 
can get me at 0131 228 2359 or 07776 187819.

Lindsay
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
<P>Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!</P>
<P>Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split. You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it that).</P>
<P>It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every game we played!!</P>
<P>Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Nicole Roberts <MAAAFY_BIRD@YAHOO.CO.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: re: women 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;feel very sorry for Anna. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;If you look at the top four teams in student nationals 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;it's a start. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;necessary). 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;players, not just players without breasts... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;unless we have some university that's willing to host 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;those horrid things we call finals... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Okay, had my tuppence, back to work 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
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I am a bit surprised by this email!! We DEFINITELY need to encourage
beginners especially but players of all levels to practise outside training
sessions if they want to improve their playing of the sport. That is
obviously natural. However, I wouldn't simply account 'women not practising'
as the reason for the difference in skill level between men and women.

There are BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS physical differences between men and women. I
consider myself a competent ultimate player but even now, playing against
male beginners of this sport I can be beaten to the disc due to the
unavoidable height, strength and speed differences between men and women. I
don't think that women are discouraged to play ultimate because the men have
better disc skills. I think the physical differences lead to men being
naturally 'stronger' players. This cannot be avoided - it is the way we were
made after all! However, by having to include female players on a team and
enabling a system where less confident women play against other women so
actually STAND A CHANCE of getting to the disc they can then improve and
gain confidence. After all, practice, practice and more practice isn't going
to turn me into a man is it? (sorry - no need for that really!!)

Replies/thoughts/discussions welcome!!

Leanne

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From: eastman.pd@pg.com [mailto:eastman.pd@pg.com]
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To: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk
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Subject: re: women



Hi BD,

I have just a couple of points which I think might help, well at least they
should be taken into consideration.
There is quite a simple reason why generally the skill level of the men who
compete is higher than that of the women who compete. And please note the
word
general in the previous line. When men start to learn to play those who
become
good work harder than women who start at the same time. From my experince
you
will often find guys who have just started out in the park throwing around
away
from practice, you will rarley find the women doing the same! Now, I think
the
way to narrow the skill gap is encourage women to put as much effort in, I
know
that the culture surrounding sport is quite different for men and women, but
if
everyone is to compete at the same level, then everyone has to put in the
same
effort!
Those who are now envolved in student ultimate and have a new crop of women
to
teach should encourage them to take what they've been tought and practice,
practice, practice! Then we can see what most of us want. More Co-ed
ultimate of
the standard which people want to play and watch.

Just a few thoughts,
Paul Eastman

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Becca,

I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making students
co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough women.
Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than others
and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That was
a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that many
women and that would be even worse.

My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of teams
would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in student
ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We did
have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as any of
us and still came 2nd so keep them coming...

Jesper






"Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on
31/10/2001 14:04:29

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To:   maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
cc:

Subject:  re: women




Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!

Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split.
You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the
gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it
that).

It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one
wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own
team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every
game we played!!

Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will
practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.





>From: Nicole Roberts
>To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: re: women
>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
>
>Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
>feel very sorry for Anna.
>
>If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
>last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I
>appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
>it's a start.
>
>A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
>excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
>necessary).
>
>By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
>co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
>women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
>reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
>players, not just players without breasts...
>
>Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
>unless we have some university that's willing to host
>co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
>either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
>those horrid things we call finals...
>
>Okay, had my tuppence, back to work
>
>nicole
>mohawks
>
>____________________________________________________________
>Nokia Game is on again.
>Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new
>all media adventure before November 3rd.


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Do you think that by HAVING to play women (2-5/1-6/whatever) in student
ultimate that would FORCE teams to have to encourage women to play, women
would have a more definite role to play in the team and as they had that
status, they would themselves have more motivation to remain in the game?

Just a thought
Leanne

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Sent: 31 October 2001 14:54
To: Rebecca Humphries; Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: re: women



Becca,

I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making students
co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough women.
Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than others
and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That was
a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that many
women and that would be even worse.

My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of teams
would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in student
ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We did
have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as any of
us and still came 2nd so keep them coming...

Jesper






"Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on
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Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!

Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split.
You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the
gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it
that).

It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one
wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own
team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every
game we played!!

Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will
practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.





>From: Nicole Roberts
>To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: re: women
>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
>
>Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
>feel very sorry for Anna.
>
>If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
>last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I
>appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
>it's a start.
>
>A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
>excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
>necessary).
>
>By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
>co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
>women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
>reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
>players, not just players without breasts...
>
>Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
>unless we have some university that's willing to host
>co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
>either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
>those horrid things we call finals...
>
>Okay, had my tuppence, back to work
>
>nicole
>mohawks
>
>____________________________________________________________
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I agree with the idea of having women on women at every opportunity, but as it has been pointed out it will not always be feasible. Why not get people to arrange more women's indoor tourneys as you don't need many women, and none student women can help.

We had a women's tournament last year, where experienced players split up and put 1 or 2 experienced women on each beginners team to help with the handling side of it. And then reformed to do 1 demo game against the men... to prove that women can play at
a competitive level.

This seems like the best way to encourage during the indoor season!
what so you think

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That is the thing we have been trying. Every year we start out with some 30
women and then they dissapear. I guess I must scare them off. ;) It is
something that for the last 3 years I have been trying to find out how to
deal with. You women out there what would keep women coming to practices
which are dominated by over enthusiastic beginner lads? That will be the
key to this issue in my opinion.

Jes





Deffley Leanne <ECSLDEFF@livjm.ac.uk> on 31/10/2001 15:09:39

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Subject:  RE: women


Do you think that by HAVING to play women (2-5/1-6/whatever) in student
ultimate that would FORCE teams to have to encourage women to play, women
would have a more definite role to play in the team and as they had that
status, they would themselves have more motivation to remain in the game?

Just a thought
Leanne

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com [mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com]
Sent: 31 October 2001 14:54
To: Rebecca Humphries; Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: re: women



Becca,

I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making students
co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough women.
Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than others
and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That was
a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that many
women and that would be even worse.

My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of teams
would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in student
ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We did
have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as any of
us and still came 2nd so keep them coming...

Jesper






"Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on
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Subject:  re: women




Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!

Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split.
You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the
gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it
that).

It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one
wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own
team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every
game we played!!

Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will
practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.





>From: Nicole Roberts
>To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: re: women
>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
>
>Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
>feel very sorry for Anna.
>
>If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
>last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I
>appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
>it's a start.
>
>A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
>excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
>necessary).
>
>By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
>co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
>women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
>reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
>players, not just players without breasts...
>
>Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
>unless we have some university that's willing to host
>co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
>either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
>those horrid things we call finals...
>
>Okay, had my tuppence, back to work
>
>nicole
>mohawks
>
>____________________________________________________________
>Nokia Game is on again.
>Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new
>all media adventure before November 3rd.


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From: Deffley Leanne <ECSLDEFF@livjm.ac.uk>
To: "'eastman.pd@pg.com'" <eastman.pd@pg.com>
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:30:42 -0000
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Paul
Yeah, I think our arguments are heading in different directions. I am really
interested in how the profile of women players can be raised; particularly
in student ultimate simply because that is where the majority of beginners
come from. I think that there is a lot of feeling of discontentment on the
part of women that are trying to play with and against men. That is why I
suggested the possibility of student co-ed, as an idea only. I have been
told that in Australia, all of the tournaments apart from nationals are
co-ed and that that system is successful. I wanted to see what people
thought of this. I've just been trying to think of ways in which women can
be encouraged to keep playing ultimate and working against factors that
discourage them from playing.

Leanne

-----Original Message-----
From: eastman.pd@pg.com [mailto:eastman.pd@pg.com]
Sent: 31 October 2001 15:06
To: Deffley Leanne
Subject: RE: women


Leanne,

My email was intended to discuss the point that it is often seen that men
don't
want to pass to women, because they think they'll either drop the disc or
throw
it away. These points can only be addressed by increasing the skill level,
they
obviously have nothing to do with with physical size and shape which is not,
and
can not be, disputed.

The game of ultimate will not improve significantly if all members of the
game
who wish to play at a high level don't put in the levels of effort which is
required. This doesn't only relate to women, but to me n as well. Imagine if
the
Players of Clapham, Chevy, Leeds, Fusion, Druids etc... didn't go out and
practice until their arms were tired how good they'd be. The simple answer
is
S*£t. We can't expect ot have HIGH levels of compertition if those taking
part
only percive the sport as a casual pass time. If this is how you want to
play
the sport then there ARE tournaments which you can take part in. If you want
to
play at the TOP levels then there needs to be very large levels of
commitmemnt.

For the student communities the top levels are their National(Indoor and
Outdoor), and the open level Tour and Nations again. You can't make the
sport
better by saying that we have to force women to play in these tournaments.
Over
time as the commitement becomes larger then hopefully people will realise
that
co-ed is the way forward and the popularity of these event will increase and
maybe overshadow the Open series. It will however take time and effort.

A few more thoughts.

Paul Eastman




From: Deffley Leanne <ECSLDEFF@livjm.ac.uk> on 31/10/2001 14:42
 

         Deffley Leanne           To:   Paul Eastman-PD/PGI

 <ECSLDEFF@livjm.ac.uk>           Cc:   "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'"

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                          Subject:      RE: women

       31/10/2001 14:42

 

 






I am a bit surprised by this email!! We DEFINITELY need to encourage
beginners especially but players of all levels to practise outside training
sessions if they want to improve their playing of the sport. That is
obviously natural. However, I wouldn't simply account 'women not practising'
as the reason for the difference in skill level between men and women.

There are BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS physical differences between men and women. I
consider myself a competent ultimate player but even now, playing against
male beginners of this sport I can be beaten to the disc due to the
unavoidable height, strength and speed differences between men and women. I
don't think that women are discouraged to play ultimate because the men have
better disc skills. I think the physical differences lead to men being
naturally 'stronger' players. This cannot be avoided - it is the way we were
made after all! However, by having to include female players on a team and
enabling a system where less confident women play against other women so
actually STAND A CHANCE of getting to the disc they can then improve and
gain confidence. After all, practice, practice and more practice isn't going
to turn me into a man is it? (sorry - no need for that really!!)

Replies/thoughts/discussions welcome!!

Leanne

-----Original Message-----
From: eastman.pd@pg.com [mailto:eastman.pd@pg.com]
Sent: 31 October 2001 09:05
To: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk
Cc: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: re: women



Hi BD,

I have just a couple of points which I think might help, well at least they
should be taken into consideration.
There is quite a simple reason why generally the skill level of the men who
compete is higher than that of the women who compete. And please note the
word
general in the previous line. When men start to learn to play those who
become
good work harder than women who start at the same time. From my experince
you
will often find guys who have just started out in the park throwing around
away
from practice, you will rarley find the women doing the same! Now, I think
the
way to narrow the skill gap is encourage women to put as much effort in, I
know
that the culture surrounding sport is quite different for men and women, but
if
everyone is to compete at the same level, then everyone has to put in the
same
effort!
Those who are now envolved in student ultimate and have a new crop of women
to
teach should encourage them to take what they've been tought and practice,
practice, practice! Then we can see what most of us want. More Co-ed
ultimate of
the standard which people want to play and watch.

Just a few thoughts,
Paul Eastman

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Jasper,

That's the point though isn't it.  Why aren't there more women in ultimate
in the UK/in student ultimate?  Because it is very difficult for women to
come into the sport and find a niche, for one reason or another.  I
haven't managed to pin down why.  It is difficult to move into such a male
dominated environment - I've friends who've given up because they find
that they just don't get the disc.  Women play differently - they can make
it to an equally good level - they just don't do the dominating the in air
tall boy stuff.  It is as much an issue for the rest of the men on the
teams - what incentive have we got to learn how to play with women/ read
their cuts when we generally have 5 other guys doing the air dominating
stuff which we can throw to?

If teams where made to be mixed - you might start getting that synergy -
just as many teams would be fielded -because each team would then need to
be mixed - suddenly women in ultimate have qudos - you'd have teams all
over the uk who would take the recruitment and developement of women
seriously.  Sure, many teams would still be the all male handlers doing
the bulk, but the successful teams would be the teams that learnt to play
with all their players.  [I'm not knocking the teams out there who are
already doing this - but it would then happen on a much larger scale]

Maybe all women tournaments are the answer - but you still don't get past
that issue of how do you get men and women to learn to play together -
it's got to be mixed I recon.

Ben

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com wrote:

>
> Becca,
>
> I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making students
> co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough women.
> Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than others
> and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That was
> a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that many
> women and that would be even worse.
>
> My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of teams
> would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in student
> ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We did
> have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as any of
> us and still came 2nd so keep them coming...
>
> Jesper
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on
> 31/10/2001 14:04:29
>
> Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
>
>
> To:   maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> cc:
>
> Subject:  re: women
>
>
>
>
> Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!
>
> Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split.
> You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the
> gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it
> that).
>
> It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one
> wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own
> team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every
> game we played!!
>
> Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will
> practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Nicole Roberts
> >To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> >Subject: re: women
> >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
> >feel very sorry for Anna.
> >
> >If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
> >last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I
> >appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
> >it's a start.
> >
> >A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
> >excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
> >necessary).
> >
> >By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
> >co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
> >women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
> >reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
> >players, not just players without breasts...
> >
> >Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
> >unless we have some university that's willing to host
> >co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
> >either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
> >those horrid things we call finals...
> >
> >Okay, had my tuppence, back to work
> >
> >nicole
> >mohawks
> >
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Can I just point out that I reckon this discussion is a pointless exercise
if the only people taking part are about 3 blokes and a load of rather
experienced female players who, though they are a good example of the fact
that ultimate is a sport that both sexes can play competitively and excel
in, they are not representative of the 'target group' as I understand it,
especially not at student level.

Personally I don't think co-ed is the way forward for drawing more women
into the sport. The difference in physique is too much of a factor in
beginners with little disc skills and tactical insight. This means that
women automatically start off on the wrong foot, EVEN if they are marked by
other girls and especially indoors, where there is little space between
players and poaching defenders essentially mark girls too and zones defy the
whole girl-on-girl point.

I'll stop there and leave people to comment, although I think the whole
situation could be helped a lot by just asking all those girls who signed up
last year for student teams, and who are still playing, how they felt about
the 'battle of the sexes'.By asking all those girls who signed up last year
and stopped coming what the reason was for doing so. And finally asking all
the girls who signed up this year what they expect and what they think will
help. Also, you'll find that if you put the issue as the responsibility of
all ultimate players, rather than a girls vs. boys discussion, we might be
able to get out of the vicious circle.

I was going to stop, wasn't it?

Hedge
(YBK/NR)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com [mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com]
Sent: 31 October 2001 07:16
To: Deffley Leanne
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: women


That is the thing we have been trying. Every year we start out with some 30
women and then they dissapear. I guess I must scare them off. ;) It is
something that for the last 3 years I have been trying to find out how to
deal with. You women out there what would keep women coming to practices
which are dominated by over enthusiastic beginner lads? That will be the
key to this issue in my opinion.

Jes





Deffley Leanne <ECSLDEFF@livjm.ac.uk> on 31/10/2001 15:09:39

To:   "'Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com'" <Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com>
cc:   "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>

Subject:  RE: women


Do you think that by HAVING to play women (2-5/1-6/whatever) in student
ultimate that would FORCE teams to have to encourage women to play, women
would have a more definite role to play in the team and as they had that
status, they would themselves have more motivation to remain in the game?

Just a thought
Leanne

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com [mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com]
Sent: 31 October 2001 14:54
To: Rebecca Humphries; Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: re: women



Becca,

I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making students
co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough women.
Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than others
and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That was
a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that many
women and that would be even worse.

My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of teams
would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in student
ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We did
have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as any of
us and still came 2nd so keep them coming...

Jesper






"Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on
31/10/2001 14:04:29

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cc:

Subject:  re: women




Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!

Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split.
You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the
gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it
that).

It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one
wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own
team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every
game we played!!

Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will
practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.





>From: Nicole Roberts
>To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: re: women
>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
>
>Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
>feel very sorry for Anna.
>
>If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
>last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I
>appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
>it's a start.
>
>A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
>excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
>necessary).
>
>By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
>co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
>women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
>reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
>players, not just players without breasts...
>
>Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
>unless we have some university that's willing to host
>co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
>either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
>those horrid things we call finals...
>
>Okay, had my tuppence, back to work
>
>nicole
>mohawks
>
>____________________________________________________________
>Nokia Game is on again.
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In Canada, student ultimate works as women and open.  No co-ed.  The women
keep coming to practice because they train and play with other women, and
then go to tournaments and play against other women.  Then they have
nationals, and it is again open and women.  I think if we want the number of
women playing ultimate to grow (I guess everybody does, for the good of the
sport) then perhaps clubs should try having seperate women's training. Also,
make more of the women's tournaments that we do have.  I don't think co-ed
is the answer.  Don't get me wrong, I think co-ed is great to play, but I
don't think it is the answer to getting more women in the sport.  I think
the grievance women seem to have is that they are put off practicing because
the blokes tend to dominate/not throw them the disc/push them around/smell
bad whatever.  If women had separate training sessions, then they could
avoid these issues, Co-ed can still generate problems with guys.    
I mean, I think there would be less women soccer players at uni if they had
to train with the guys, and then play in teams with them (I know soccer is
more contact, but the principle is similar).  
Then, when the women have become comfortable playing, they can start playing
co-ed, and be respected by the guys before they have even put a foot on the
field.  But I don't think co-ed is the answer at the start.  
Anyway, rant over.  I hope I am not upsetting anyone.
Tim Dowse
P.S. I know some problems might be that there are not enough experienced
women players to run training in any particular club...well, guys, get out
there and coach them.  And encourage them to come back!  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Booth
To: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com
Cc: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Sent: 10/31/2001 3:36 PM
Subject: re: women - mixed

Jasper,

That's the point though isn't it.  Why aren't there more women in
ultimate
in the UK/in student ultimate?  Because it is very difficult for women
to
come into the sport and find a niche, for one reason or another.  I
haven't managed to pin down why.  It is difficult to move into such a
male
dominated environment - I've friends who've given up because they find
that they just don't get the disc.  Women play differently - they can
make
it to an equally good level - they just don't do the dominating the in
air
tall boy stuff.  It is as much an issue for the rest of the men on the
teams - what incentive have we got to learn how to play with women/ read
their cuts when we generally have 5 other guys doing the air dominating
stuff which we can throw to?

If teams where made to be mixed - you might start getting that synergy -
just as many teams would be fielded -because each team would then need
to
be mixed - suddenly women in ultimate have qudos - you'd have teams all
over the uk who would take the recruitment and developement of women
seriously.  Sure, many teams would still be the all male handlers doing
the bulk, but the successful teams would be the teams that learnt to
play
with all their players.  [I'm not knocking the teams out there who are
already doing this - but it would then happen on a much larger scale]

Maybe all women tournaments are the answer - but you still don't get
past
that issue of how do you get men and women to learn to play together -
it's got to be mixed I recon.

Ben

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com wrote:

>
> Becca,
>
> I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making
students
> co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough
women.
> Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than
others
> and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That
was
> a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that
many
> women and that would be even worse.
>
> My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of
teams
> would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in
student
> ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We
did
> have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as
any of
> us and still came 2nd so keep them coming...
>
> Jesper
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on
> 31/10/2001 14:04:29
>
> Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
>
>
> To:   maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> cc:
>
> Subject:  re: women
>
>
>
>
> Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!
>
> Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5
split.
> You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just
change the
> gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to
call it
> that).
>
> It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no
one
> wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their
own
> team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing
every
> game we played!!
>
> Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women
will
> practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Nicole Roberts
> >To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> >Subject: re: women
> >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
> >feel very sorry for Anna.
> >
> >If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
> >last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I
> >appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
> >it's a start.
> >
> >A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
> >excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
> >necessary).
> >
> >By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
> >co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
> >women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
> >reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
> >players, not just players without breasts...
> >
> >Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
> >unless we have some university that's willing to host
> >co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
> >either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
> >those horrid things we call finals...
> >
> >Okay, had my tuppence, back to work
> >
> >nicole
> >mohawks
> >
> >____________________________________________________________
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A co-ed student championships (as well as open and women's) would be of benefit in encouraging female players, although I'm not sure that most university teams' calendars and budgets could run to it.
 
However I don't think that there's any more justification for forcing all student competition to go co-ed than there is for introducing a quotient for ethnic minorities (or any other group under-represented in Ultimate). I set up a student team a few years ago (and played in another before that) that actively went out to recruit, train and retain female players, and the results were not that impressive. I believe that the difficulty in attracting women to the sport is not predominantly down to the lack of will or value placed on female players, it's the way in which we go about it. Therefore the increased value placed on female players by making all tournaments co-ed wouldn't have the desired effect unless the methods change as well.
 
The main problem is that disc-time, and therefore skills (and confidence) can suffer when you're the only woman playing with a team of men, and of course the fact that even if you make a good cut you're still marked out by a guy a foot taller than you. Anna's suggestion of regional women's teams is an excellent one, an awful lot of women give up the sport before they've ever had the chance to play any single-sex ultimate and simply attending a women only training session could give them the confidence needed to continue. If these teams had enough cohesion to stay together through the summer they could also help establish the Women's Tour.
 
Paul's suggestion that male students try harder than females is lazy and arrogant. Student teams manage to recruit about (finger in the air) 5 males to every female player. So yeah, there are probably more guys throwing around in the park between practices, but there are also plenty more men than women who are just there for the three-pint-challenges. In my experience, of the freshers who stick with the game for more than a few months, the females nearly always work harder than the average male player because they've chosen to accept the challenge of playing a mixed but male dominated sport.
 
Alex
Clapham Ultimate
(and formerly Mohawks & Mwnci See)
 
 
 
 

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Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!

Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split. You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it that).

It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every game we played!!

Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.






 
>From: Nicole Roberts 
>To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
>Subject: re: women 
>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT) 
> 
>Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I 
>feel very sorry for Anna. 
> 
>If you look at the top four teams in student nationals 
>last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I 
>appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but 
>it's a start. 
> 
>A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an 
>excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be 
>necessary). 
> 
>By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing 
>co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student 
>women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do 
>reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven 
>players, not just players without breasts... 
> 
>Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail 
>unless we have some university that's willing to host 
>co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with 
>either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or 
>those horrid things we call finals... 
> 
>Okay, had my tuppence, back to work 
> 
>nicole 
>mohawks 
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<P>Is anyone still reading this?</P>
<P>The good thing is at least we're discussing this and most comments are quite encouraging.</P>
<P>Whatever happens, let's not develop a sport where women go off one weekend to one&nbsp;end of the country and men somewhere else the next weekend. Let's face it, generally, we like each other, people are attracted by playing a&nbsp; sport with people of the opposite sex.</P>
<P>I believe if a tournament is to be open then it should have a womens division as well (if&nbsp;possible) - same location, same pitches.<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Evans, Alex" <ALEX.EVANS@ROOMSOLUTIONS.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: 'Rebecca Humphries' <BECCAHUMPHRIES@HOTMAIL.COM>, maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: women 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:27:44 -0000 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;A co-ed student championships (as well as open and women's) would be of benefit in encouraging female players, although I'm not sure that most university teams' calendars and budgets could run to it. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;However I don't think that there's any more justification for forcing all student competition to go co-ed than there is for introducing a quotient for ethnic minorities (or any other group under-represented in Ultimate). I set up a student team a few years ago (and played in another before that) that actively went out to recruit, train and retain female players, and the results were not that impressive. I believe that the difficulty in attracting women to the sport is not predominantly down to the lack of will or value placed on female players, it's the way in which we go about it. Therefore the increased value placed on female players by making all tournaments co-ed wouldn't have the desired effect unless the methods change as well. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The main problem is that disc-time, and therefore skills (and confidence) can suffer when you're the only woman playing with a team of men, and of course the fact that even if you make a good cut you're still marked out by a guy a foot taller than you. Anna's suggestion of regional women's teams is an excellent one, an awful lot of women give up the sport before they've ever had the chance to play any single-sex ultimate and simply attending a women only training session could give them the confidence needed to continue. If these teams had enough cohesion to stay together through the summer they could also help establish the Women's Tour. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Paul's suggestion that male students try harder than females is lazy and arrogant. Student teams manage to recruit about (finger in the air) 5 males to every female player. So yeah, there are probably more guys throwing around in the park between practices, but there are also plenty more men than women who are just there for the three-pint-challenges. In my experience, of the freshers who stick with the game for more than a few months, the females nearly always work harder than the average male player because they've chosen to accept the challenge of playing a mixed but male dominated sport. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Clapham Ultimate 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;-----Original Message----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Rebecca Humphries [mailto:beccahumphries@hotmail.com] 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: 31 October 2001 14:04 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk; Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: re: women 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Want some more opinion - I doubt it!! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split. You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it that). 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every game we played!! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;From: Nicole Roberts 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Subject: re: women 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;feel very sorry for Anna. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;If you look at the top four teams in student nationals 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;it's a start. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;necessary). 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;players, not just players without breasts... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;unless we have some university that's willing to host 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;those horrid things we call finals... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Okay, had my tuppence, back to work 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;mohawks 
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I think it is a great thing if we could have women practices but the whole
problem is that there isn't enough for women practices and some of the
women don't want this. that has been one of the things I was surprised
about when questioning the student women that continued to play. They like
the co-ed side of the sport and wouldn't change it. We have tried to have
women practices  separate but there just wasn't enough interst.

Just my experience

Jes





"Dowse, Timothy" <tim.dowse@ic.ac.uk>@warwick.ac.uk on 31/10/2001 16:06:49

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Subject:  RE: women


In Canada, student ultimate works as women and open.  No co-ed.  The women
keep coming to practice because they train and play with other women, and
then go to tournaments and play against other women.  Then they have
nationals, and it is again open and women.  I think if we want the number
of
women playing ultimate to grow (I guess everybody does, for the good of the
sport) then perhaps clubs should try having seperate women's training.
Also,
make more of the women's tournaments that we do have.  I don't think co-ed
is the answer.  Don't get me wrong, I think co-ed is great to play, but I
don't think it is the answer to getting more women in the sport.  I think
the grievance women seem to have is that they are put off practicing
because
the blokes tend to dominate/not throw them the disc/push them around/smell
bad whatever.  If women had separate training sessions, then they could
avoid these issues, Co-ed can still generate problems with guys.
I mean, I think there would be less women soccer players at uni if they had
to train with the guys, and then play in teams with them (I know soccer is
more contact, but the principle is similar).
Then, when the women have become comfortable playing, they can start
playing
co-ed, and be respected by the guys before they have even put a foot on the
field.  But I don't think co-ed is the answer at the start.
Anyway, rant over.  I hope I am not upsetting anyone.
Tim Dowse
P.S. I know some problems might be that there are not enough experienced
women players to run training in any particular club...well, guys, get out
there and coach them.  And encourage them to come back!

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Booth
To: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com
Cc: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Sent: 10/31/2001 3:36 PM
Subject: re: women - mixed

Jasper,

That's the point though isn't it.  Why aren't there more women in
ultimate
in the UK/in student ultimate?  Because it is very difficult for women
to
come into the sport and find a niche, for one reason or another.  I
haven't managed to pin down why.  It is difficult to move into such a
male
dominated environment - I've friends who've given up because they find
that they just don't get the disc.  Women play differently - they can
make
it to an equally good level - they just don't do the dominating the in
air
tall boy stuff.  It is as much an issue for the rest of the men on the
teams - what incentive have we got to learn how to play with women/ read
their cuts when we generally have 5 other guys doing the air dominating
stuff which we can throw to?

If teams where made to be mixed - you might start getting that synergy -
just as many teams would be fielded -because each team would then need
to
be mixed - suddenly women in ultimate have qudos - you'd have teams all
over the uk who would take the recruitment and developement of women
seriously.  Sure, many teams would still be the all male handlers doing
the bulk, but the successful teams would be the teams that learnt to
play
with all their players.  [I'm not knocking the teams out there who are
already doing this - but it would then happen on a much larger scale]

Maybe all women tournaments are the answer - but you still don't get
past
that issue of how do you get men and women to learn to play together -
it's got to be mixed I recon.

Ben

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com wrote:

>
> Becca,
>
> I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making
students
> co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough
women.
> Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than
others
> and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That
was
> a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that
many
> women and that would be even worse.
>
> My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of
teams
> would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in
student
> ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We
did
> have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as
any of
> us and still came 2nd so keep them coming...
>
> Jesper
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on
> 31/10/2001 14:04:29
>
> Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
>
>
> To:   maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> cc:
>
> Subject:  re: women
>
>
>
>
> Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!
>
> Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5
split.
> You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just
change the
> gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to
call it
> that).
>
> It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no
one
> wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their
own
> team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing
every
> game we played!!
>
> Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women
will
> practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Nicole Roberts
> >To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> >Subject: re: women
> >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
> >feel very sorry for Anna.
> >
> >If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
> >last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I
> >appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
> >it's a start.
> >
> >A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
> >excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
> >necessary).
> >
> >By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
> >co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
> >women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
> >reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
> >players, not just players without breasts...
> >
> >Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
> >unless we have some university that's willing to host
> >co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
> >either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
> >those horrid things we call finals...
> >
> >Okay, had my tuppence, back to work
> >
> >nicole
> >mohawks
> >
> >____________________________________________________________
> >Nokia Game is on again.
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Folks,

Good debate. 

Some ideas/suggestions....

1. We should always try to provide choice of competitions rather than force people into playing a certain way (e.g. forcing mixed upon student competition)

2. To have choice we need larger number of players (especially women)

3. I would like to see UK Ultimate offer a recruitment bounty for clubs which recruit new members and especially women. This would be a better way of increasing numbers of women than forcing mixed.

4. What Hedge said about actually talking to new female recruits is gospel. I hope the UK Ultimate setup will allow us to do this though I hope it isn't just on the basis of an 'exit interview'

5. In some cases the female players have allowed the men to run everything. This could be the fault of the men that recruited them though! 

6. I have my doubts about the female recruitment motivations of some male-dominated teams in this country. I suspect the word 'tottie' is to be heard at some freshers fairs around the country. Others seem to recruit women to flatter their ego. Some on the other hand are brilliant at recruiting both sexes - lets learn from them.

7. Like any special interest group this will all happen best if it is driven by that group itself. If women want change then it will work best if they take more control of their own affairs.

8. There are two women standing for directorships in the election.

Ben

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Wow. Haven't seen so much attention to an issue. Excellent stuff.
Haven't seen if this has been mentioned but there been
some talk on the block-stack forums site as well if interested.
It's at...
http://www.block-stack.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=3&forum=7&9

Steve

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Folks,

Good debate. 

Some ideas/suggestions....

1. We should always try to provide choice of competitions rather than force people into playing a certain way (e.g. forcing mixed upon student competition)

2. To have choice we need larger number of players (especially women)

3. I would like to see UK Ultimate offer a recruitment bounty for clubs which recruit new members and especially women. This would be a better way of increasing numbers of women than forcing mixed.

4. What Hedge said about actually talking to new female recruits is gospel. I hope the UK Ultimate setup will allow us to do this though I hope it isn't just on the basis of an 'exit interview'

5. In some cases the female players have allowed the men to run everything. This could be the fault of the men that recruited them though! 

6. I have my doubts about the female recruitment motivations of some male-dominated teams in this country. I suspect the word 'tottie' is to be heard at some freshers fairs around the country. Others seem to recruit women to flatter their ego. Some on the other hand are brilliant at recruiting both sexes - lets learn from them.

7. Like any special interest group this will all happen best if it is driven by that group itself. If women want change then it will work best if they take more control of their own affairs.

8. There are two women standing for directorships in the election.

Ben

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Someone's bound to be interested in how the US do things...

>From EuroDisc, 
Wed, 31 Oct 2001, by Thomas Griesbaum <mailto:thgries@ira.uka.de>;
 Subject: 2001 UPA Club Ultimate Championship
>For those interested in the UPA Championship which starts tomorrow 
>with finals on Sunday have a look at the official website at:
>
>http://www.upa.org/events/championships/championship_webpages/2001_fall/
>
>Some of you might want to know against whom you will be playing next 
>year at the WUCC in Hawaii.
>
>Charles Kerr, known to many as the Callahan Award Coordinator, has 
>plans to publish the results of all games immediately and if possible 
>even as the scores happen on the web. See an excerpt of his 
>announcement on rec.sport.disc:
>
>>Score-O-Matic coverage of 2001 Club Nationals!
>>
>>It's like ESPN Gameday for ultimate. Updated scores and pithy audio 
>>comments (in
>>MP3 format no less) available on the computer.
>>
>>A small army of people are working to bring your friends, family and ultimate
>>community up to the minute results of from Sarasota. The Score-O-Matic is
>>covering all four divisions from pool play to the tournament finals.
>>
>>http://www.callahan-mvp.com/realtime/
>
>Games start tomorrow at 8:30 am, so the first results should show up 
>there at around 4.00 pm CET/3.00 pm GMT.
>
>Thomas

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Real-time scoring on the web. Cool.

And one month after our Nationals the final placings aren't even up on our
website  (http://www.ukultimate.com/ultimatum/results2001.html). Not cool.

Is anyone responsbile for that? How do the people standing for BUF positions
intend to address this woeful situation, and our  use of the internet in
general? Blockstack have done some nice things recently, but our whole
approach needs co-ordination..

Oh, and cheer for Florida if you do visit the site. The legendary G-man
(Garrett Crosbie), one time Clapham player, is playing for them and hoping
to get a ticket to Hawaii by finishing in the top 6. 

Cheers
Silver Bear
CU#1



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Sent: 31 October 2001 21:05
To: BritDisc
Subject: Re: 2001 UPA Club Ultimate Championship


Someone's bound to be interested in how the US do things...

>From EuroDisc, 
Wed, 31 Oct 2001, by Thomas Griesbaum <mailto:thgries@ira.uka.de>;
 Subject: 2001 UPA Club Ultimate Championship
>For those interested in the UPA Championship which starts tomorrow 
>with finals on Sunday have a look at the official website at:
>
>http://www.upa.org/events/championships/championship_webpages/2001_fall/
>
>Some of you might want to know against whom you will be playing next 
>year at the WUCC in Hawaii.
>
>Charles Kerr, known to many as the Callahan Award Coordinator, has 
>plans to publish the results of all games immediately and if possible 
>even as the scores happen on the web. See an excerpt of his 
>announcement on rec.sport.disc:
>
>>Score-O-Matic coverage of 2001 Club Nationals!
>>
>>It's like ESPN Gameday for ultimate. Updated scores and pithy audio 
>>comments (in
>>MP3 format no less) available on the computer.
>>
>>A small army of people are working to bring your friends, family and
ultimate
>>community up to the minute results of from Sarasota. The Score-O-Matic is
>>covering all four divisions from pool play to the tournament finals.
>>
>>http://www.callahan-mvp.com/realtime/
>
>Games start tomorrow at 8:30 am, so the first results should show up 
>there at around 4.00 pm CET/3.00 pm GMT.
>
>Thomas

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Hmmm, I have been considering whether I should enter
this... but just a few thoughts.

Quick view of waht I am saying:
*I think there needs to be more effort in promoting
Ultimate at schools levels*
*The student captains need to be asking whether they
are actively looking to include females in their
beginners teams, and use the CoEd tour to bring
forward developing women*

Something that I want to put forward as a factor to
the lack of female ultimate players: interest in
sport...

One of the factors is that women don't, across
society, compete in sport as broadly as males.  Our
club includes failed footballers, rugby players,
athletes, basketball players, rowers... the list goes
on.  A higher number of men play sport in general and
often Ultimate picks up the good sportspeople that
haven't quite excelled elsewhere.  The fact is that
schools and society still don't promote female sport,
and there seem to be less 'residual' sportswomen.  So
not only do women get overlooked at clubs, women who
tend to be good at sport are already established in
sports.

*I think there needs to be more effort in promoting
Ultimate at schools levels*... the three best uni
women I have played with in the last two years came to
uni either knowing how to play completely or they had
been taught how to throw, which meant they could play
with the best of the boys.

Which leads me to my next point.  At our club we
recognise it as the 'bug', where people just get
hooked.  We recognise that this develops most strongly
at tournaments!  *The student captains need to be
asking whether they are actively looking to include
females in their beginners teams* where the field is
level.  Knowing full-well that tournaments lead to
commitment to the club, where the females feel that
they have a place amoungst the other beginners, we
actively look to take a high percentage of females to
beginners tournies.  I was also saddened to see the
low numbers of student teams entering the CoEd tour
with beginners women, it is the perfect opportunity to
develop skills. 

Which ranting leads me to agree with Leanne and push
for greater intergration (forced if necessary to start
with) of men and women.  By playing alongside, with
the women shouting loudly, the men (who are slow in
the head) start to realise that they are good, in soe
cases very good!

I am sure I could write some more, but I will open
this up.

Sox
Northen Lights

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BD'ers,

Agree with Ben's points and very glad to see such interest on BD.

I don't think we are in any position to 'force' the issue (i.e.
enforcing a given co-ed split). Rather we should be encouraging women to
play at whichever level they feel comfortable and develop from there. I
am not saying we discount this as an option (and potentially give it a
try in the near future), just to think more long term and implement
these kind of changes as part of a considered plan.

We have made a great start in this by establishing and improving the
co-ed tour, an example of decent long term planning and a great
foundation to build from.

I would suggest that we begin development by canvassing opinion from all
women in UK ultimate on how they would like to play and develop the
game. Currently we have no definitive information on the type and scope
of events women would like to get involved in. The women's event on 16th
Dec would be a good opportunity to get this started.

Once we have a realistic idea of opinion, we can start forming coherent
strategies and options. Then we will ALL be able to have our say about
the long term implementation of developing and encouraging women in UK
ultimate [via voting] and not be confined to those who are willing and
able to participate in BD discussion.

Just my thoughts, but this is obviously an issue which the new
association needs to address, and one I'm sure that the board (whoever
they may be) will take great care in examining.

Vote Harv.


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All,

Despite some compelling arguments for it, I still feel that, although 
I would dearly love to be able to play co-ed with my student team, 
it just doesn't work (and we've done it) because *at the moment* 
the way the men and women on the team play just isn't 
compatible. Who knows if this is because the way men and 
women play is fundamentally different, because of male 
(particularly some student males, sorry lads) attitudes towards 
female players, or because of a difference in skill level. I just don't 
think it is currently feasible to play co-ed at student level, 
something else has to be done first. And it isn't just about women 
putting more effort in between practices, although that would 
benefit any player .

It doesn't matter if only the minority of women feel unconfident or 
undervalued, if the problem exists at all it needs to be addressed 
by all teams at all levels (even if the players are all men!).

Just a reminder that I am a student women player, relatively new to 
the game (Hedge!) and speak from my own experience, other 
women may feel differently about all this. I'm also standing for 
election to the UKU board so that I can try to voice concerns of 
student players, particularly female ones, to the larger Ultimate 
playing community. 

Cheers,

Anna.
BAPS, enjoying the discussion.


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To say that women can't compete because of their (lack of) physical 
attributes is ridiculous. The top three teams in the country this year all 
had 'small' men playing for them (Aram, Kenny, Beege). All of whom I 
wouldn't like to mark, cos they can change direction a lot quicker than me. 
Similarly I'm sure none of them would want to mark me if I was sprinting 
long. Ultimate is not played by 6 foot plus olympic sprinters, it is played 
by a wide variety of shapes and sizes. If anyone, man or woman, wants to 
make it to the top of the game, they can, and do.
If Rebecca wants to encourage female players, then instead of trying to dump 
the responsibility on student teams (who have a hard enough time as it is of 
getting respect with in the game as it is), why didn't she stand for the 
board of directors and push for it at a national level. If you want 
something doing well, do it yourself. If you aren't playing enough, with the 
right mix, in the right place, organise a tournament yourelf, make up the 
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Does anyone know if the dates are still the same or have changed to the following weekend?

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Jaimie,

Are you a student or do you have a full time job....?

Women can compete with men... that is not the issue here... I am sure that Beege and Arum etc... with love the comparison of them to women  ;) but the argument/discussion is how to encourage, some of us have persevered anyway, and I can think of a few
women that I hate marking more than I hate marking men, but I think the point is help the less experienced get more confidence in their own abilities once they have started down the rocky road of playing Ultimate.
I know that I have not got the time to organise a tourny myself but I would and will help out anyone that is willing to try... I think that Becca is in the same boat!


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To say that women can't compete because of their (lack of) physical
attributes is ridiculous. The top three teams in the country this year all
had 'small' men playing for them (Aram, Kenny, Beege). All of whom I
wouldn't like to mark, cos they can change direction a lot quicker than me.
Similarly I'm sure none of them would want to mark me if I was sprinting
long. Ultimate is not played by 6 foot plus olympic sprinters, it is played
by a wide variety of shapes and sizes. If anyone, man or woman, wants to
make it to the top of the game, they can, and do.
If Rebecca wants to encourage female players, then instead of trying to dump
the responsibility on student teams (who have a hard enough time as it is of
getting respect with in the game as it is), why didn't she stand for the
board of directors and push for it at a national level. If you want
something doing well, do it yourself. If you aren't playing enough, with the
right mix, in the right place, organise a tournament yourelf, make up the
rules and ENJOY.

Jaimie

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I don't think it is unreasonable to say that ON AVERAGE women are smaller
and slower and less strong then men.  Obviously there are always exceptions
(small feeble men like me and massive tall power house
unbelievably-good-at-ultimate women).  But I think it is perfectly
reasonable to say that there are more men at the top of open ultimate than
women because of average physical attributes, not to mention any of the
other factors that have been discussed.  I know we live in an age of
equality, but I don't think you can take an set of guys and a set of girls
and say that the girls have an equal chance of getting to the top open teams
in the country as the guys. 
Anyway, much of the gap between men and women lies in speed, not size.  And
you can't tell me that women can run just as fast as men.  Look at the
fastest women in the world.  They could not compete with the fastest men.
And so the trend continues down to the us lesser athletes.  
Be realistic
Tim Dowse

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaimie Cross
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Sent: 11/1/2001 2:45 PM

To say that women can't compete because of their (lack of) physical 
attributes is ridiculous. The top three teams in the country this year
all 
had 'small' men playing for them (Aram, Kenny, Beege). All of whom I 
wouldn't like to mark, cos they can change direction a lot quicker than
me. 
Similarly I'm sure none of them would want to mark me if I was sprinting

long. Ultimate is not played by 6 foot plus olympic sprinters, it is
played 
by a wide variety of shapes and sizes. If anyone, man or woman, wants to

make it to the top of the game, they can, and do.
If Rebecca wants to encourage female players, then instead of trying to
dump 
the responsibility on student teams (who have a hard enough time as it
is of 
getting respect with in the game as it is), why didn't she stand for the

board of directors and push for it at a national level. If you want 
something doing well, do it yourself. If you aren't playing enough, with
the 
right mix, in the right place, organise a tournament yourelf, make up
the 
rules and ENJOY.

Jaimie

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Dear Anna and all

You are very right about student male attitudes.  I run the club here in 
Oxford, and this debate keeps on coming around.  Last year half the team 
essentially didn't want women playing on the first team just because.  I 
convinced them to allow the women to play but then we ended up with the 
situation of our coaches not letting the women play in the most important 
games/points.  What I'm trying to do this year is to be as inclusive as I 
possibly can, helped by a couple of very talented female players, and we've 
got a good number of female beginners.  Now we have enough players for a 
small indoors womens team, I'm pushing to organise women's matches against 
local opposition eg Mythago.  This should help the confidence of the new 
players, create a bit of team spirit and be a big bonus when it comes to 
playing with the boys in the tournaments.  Fingers crossed!

Ed
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Tim what you have stated about the physical differences between men and women is undoubtedly true but it pre-supposes three things:-

1. That physical stature is the only thing that makes a player.

2. That everyone is playing at the top level where physical attributes *really* matter.

3. That everyone plays with the sole intention of winning.

I think the concept of the 'Open' division is virtually meaningless at international level but below that the overlap between men and women is sufficiently small to make true Open division (i.e. unforced mixed play) viable.

We need to identify the stage in a [female] player's developement when gender becomes an issue. If this stage is a result of laziness or sexism then we have to force the issue or at the very least educate those involved. If this stage is due to basic phyisical attributes then we need to offer Mens (OK 'Open'!), Womens and Mixed divisions and let people do their own thing.

Yet again all this is academic if we can't even recruit and keep female players in the first place. Someone said something about schools - this is undoubtedly the place to start - get them before their adult prejudices kick-in.

The recruitment potential from schools completely dwarfs that of universities. Kev Lowe & others have shown what can be done in schools but it needs much more manpower and organisation to happen nationwide.

Go start a (mixed) school team today! I know there are loads of you teachers out there. You bring the kids and UK Ultimate will provide the support and the competitions.

Ben




---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Dowse, Timothy" <tim.dowse@ic.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:16:45 -0000 

>I don't think it is unreasonable to say that ON AVERAGE women are smaller
>and slower and less strong then men.  Obviously there are always exceptions
>(small feeble men like me and massive tall power house
>unbelievably-good-at-ultimate women).  But I think it is perfectly
>reasonable to say that there are more men at the top of open ultimate than
>women because of average physical attributes, not to mention any of the
>other factors that have been discussed.  I know we live in an age of
>equality, but I don't think you can take an set of guys and a set of girls
>and say that the girls have an equal chance of getting to the top open teams
>in the country as the guys. 
>Anyway, much of the gap between men and women lies in speed, not size.  And
>you can't tell me that women can run just as fast as men.  Look at the
>fastest women in the world.  They could not compete with the fastest men.
>And so the trend continues down to the us lesser athletes.  
>Be realistic
>Tim Dowse
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jaimie Cross
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Sent: 11/1/2001 2:45 PM
>
>To say that women can't compete because of their (lack of) physical 
>attributes is ridiculous. The top three teams in the country this year
>all 
>had 'small' men playing for them (Aram, Kenny, Beege). All of whom I 
>wouldn't like to mark, cos they can change direction a lot quicker than
>me. 
>Similarly I'm sure none of them would want to mark me if I was sprinting
>
>long. Ultimate is not played by 6 foot plus olympic sprinters, it is
>played 
>by a wide variety of shapes and sizes. If anyone, man or woman, wants to
>
>make it to the top of the game, they can, and do.
>If Rebecca wants to encourage female players, then instead of trying to
>dump 
>the responsibility on student teams (who have a hard enough time as it
>is of 
>getting respect with in the game as it is), why didn't she stand for the
>
>board of directors and push for it at a national level. If you want 
>something doing well, do it yourself. If you aren't playing enough, with
>the 
>right mix, in the right place, organise a tournament yourelf, make up
>the 
>rules and ENJOY.
>
>Jaimie
>
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From: Wayne Retter <contact@fluiddruids.com>
Subject: Newport Indoors 2002 - update 01/11/01
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For those that were wondering about whether Newport is full yet.

Teams who've entered so far:

Team                    Contact
 1 Strange Blue         Dora Kemp
 2 "Trig's Team"        Andrew 'Trig' Feltham
 3 Angels               Simon Barry
 4 Mr Men               Damian Mudge
 5 Blue Arse Flies      James 'Balti' Hewitson
 6 Space Monkeys        Tom Candlin
 7 Slipdisc             Katie Little
 8 Oasis                Phil Cooper
 9 SkuMy                Andy 'Angie' Cox
10 Vortex Camulodunum   Jim Lomas
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12
13
14
15
16 Fluid Druids

So, there are currently spaces for 5 more (and some kind of Druids team,
of course!).

There are several teams that have expressed an interest in attending,
but NOBODY gets to 'reserve' a space.

Receipt of your entry fee will secure your space.

Reserves:
 1 Slipdisc 2           Katie Little


Regards
Wayne


>Wed, 10 Oct 2001, by Wayne Retter <mailto:contact@fluiddruids.com>;
> Subject: Newport Indoors 2002
>>Newport Indoor Tournament, 19+20 January 2002
>>
>>The entry fee for Newport 2002 is GBP 90.00
>>Cheques should be payable to "Fluid Druids Ultimate Club"
>>
>>and mailed to the following address: 
>>        Newport Indoor Tournament
>>        c/o Wayne Retter
>>        8 Avon House
>>        Rutland Close
>>        Redhill
>>        Surrey
>>        RH1 1EH
>>
>>we will also require as much as possible of the following information: 
>>
>>Team Name:
>>Contact Name:
>>Contact Address:
>>Home phone:
>>Home Email:
>>Work Phone:
>>Work Email: 
>>
>>We will then confirm receipt of your entry.
>>
>>If you're particularly worried about its whereabouts, Wayne can be
>>contacted:
>>phone: 01737-218489
>>email: contact@fluiddruids.com
>>
>>No entries will be confirmed until cheques AND contact details have been
>>received - "the cheque's in the mail" is a nice line, but won't help! 
>>
>>We only have room for 16 teams. 
>>
>>2nd teams: entries for second (or a second, but equal...) teams will not
>>be allowed until 01 January 2000. Any such cheques/details received
>>before this date will be held until then before being put onto the
>>entrants list. 
>>
>>We'll be playing all day Saturday (9am to 9pm) and most of Sunday (9am
>>to 6pm) 
>>
>>You will need to find your own accommodation - we can provide none;
>>Newport has several B&Bs, and a Travelodge not too far away.
>>
>>There is no planned evening event. 
>>
>>Wayne Retter 

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Having followed the discussion on women in ultimate over the last couple =
of days, I think its now my turn to have my say.
Firstly, a couple of points -=20
1. the views of experienced women are important - just because we're not =
at uni any more doesn't mean we don't know what its like - after all, =
we're the ones who have found a way to stay in the sport.
2. the issue isn't whether or not women and men can compete together - =
its about how to find and retain female players.

I am a strong advocate of the theory that providing separate practices =
for women is the best way to develop skills and confidence. Players can =
then take these into their respective teams, whether their preference is =
women's, mixed or open ultimate.

When someone chooses to participate in a group activity, or a team =
sport, they want to feel a part of that group - in ultimate terms, if an =
inexperienced player (male or female) doesn't feel part of their team, =
its understandable if they do not want to carry on. =20
To achieve success in ultimate, and by success I mean fulfilling your =
own personal aims (whatever they may be), can be hard work.  Obviously, =
perserverence (and stubbornness!) are necessary, but it is important to =
provide the framework within which individual aims can be achieved.

As to whether or not student ultimate should have a gender split =
enforced, I would have to say no.
I think that encouraging more student women's teams would have a more =
positive effect - on keeping women in the sport while at uni.=20

Its already been said, but school is the place to recruit new players.

One of the main reasons I am standing for a position on the Board is to =
concentrate on the development aspects of the sport.  Over the last 3 =
years (the last time we had an involved discussion on britdisc on women =
in ultimate) the standard and numbers of female players have definitely =
increased - and I personally, as an experienced player, find it very =
satisfying.

Laura Pearce





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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Having followed the discussion on women =
in ultimate=20
over the last couple of days, I think its now my turn to have my=20
say.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Firstly, a couple of points - =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. the views of experienced women are =
important -=20
just because we're not at uni any more doesn't mean we don't know what =
its like=20
- after all, we're the ones who have found a way to stay in the=20
sport.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. the issue isn't whether or not women =
and men can=20
compete together - its about how to find and retain female =
players.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am&nbsp;a strong advocate of the =
theory that=20
providing separate practices for women is the best way to develop skills =
and=20
confidence.&nbsp;Players can then take these into their respective =
teams,=20
whether their preference is women's, mixed or open =
ultimate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When someone chooses to participate in =
a group=20
activity, or a team sport, they want to feel a part of that group - in =
ultimate=20
terms, if an inexperienced player (male or female) doesn't feel part of =
their=20
team, its understandable if they do not&nbsp;want to carry on.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To achieve success in ultimate, and by =
success I=20
mean fulfilling your own personal aims (whatever they may be), can be =
hard=20
work.&nbsp; Obviously, perserverence (and stubbornness!) are necessary, =
but it=20
is important to provide the framework within which individual aims can =
be=20
achieved.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As to whether or not student ultimate =
should have a=20
gender split enforced, I would have to say no.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I&nbsp;think that encouraging more =
student women's=20
teams would have a more positive effect - on keeping women in the sport =
while at=20
uni.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its already been said, but school is =
the place to=20
recruit new players.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of the main reasons I am standing =
for a=20
position on the Board is to concentrate on the development aspects of =
the=20
sport.&nbsp; Over the last 3 years (the last time we had an involved =
discussion=20
on britdisc on women in ultimate) the standard and numbers of female =
players=20
have definitely increased - and I personally, as an experienced player, =
find it=20
very satisfying.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Laura Pearce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Somewhere on my website I've got a page with a photo of the BUF National
Indoor Championships trophy and a list of Champions on it.

It is, however, a little out of date (last updated 1997!) and I'm
thinking of updating it (or maybe someone else wants it?)

Here's the list I've got, with a quick history lesson attached (feel
free to correct me if I've missed anything/got it wrong!)

BUF National Indoor Champions 
1979    Robber Barons F.C. 
1980    Ally Pally Tossers 
1981    Clivedon Studs 

all of the above are WAY before my time!

1982    Samurai 
        - some of these guys can still be seen playing for HeadRush
1983    Samurai 
1984    Tennants Super F.C. 
        - mostly became 'Mysterons' and later 'Violently Happy'
1985    Warwick Bears 
        - from the cradle of British Ultimate
1986    Battersea Boleros 
        - subtitled 'the Holy Lunching Friars of Voondoon'
1987    Stan 
        - a team of Warwick Bears graduates
1988    Hombres 
        - the UK team with arguably the best UK record (Indoor and
Outdoor) ever
        - they later became 'the old men who play O' in Shotgun Wedding,
who went on to make Clapham their stomping ground
1989    Stan 
1990    Hombres 
1991    Hombres 
1992    Fluid Druids 
        - they're still around, the original UK team to play in purple
1993    Regulators 
        - they later became 'the youngsters who play D' in Shotgun
Wedding. Some of them are now recognisable as the 'old men who play O'
for Clapham.
1994    Fluid Druids 
1995    Fluid Druids 
1996    Fluid Druids 
1997    Fluid Druids

is this right for the more recent years?

1998    UTI             (2nd: Fluid Druids) @ Cheltenham
        - another team of graduate Warwick Bears, some of them now play
for Clapham
1999    Blue Arse Flies (2nd: Fluid Druids) @ Cheltenham
        - they're still around, you know them!
2000    ?               (2nd: ?)@ Plymouth
2001    Mexican Horse Bandits   (2nd: Blue Arse Flies) @ Cheltenham
        - 'Team Shipley'? another group of graduate Warwick Bears

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Tue, 23 Oct 2001, by Ben Ravilious <mailto:ben@ravilious.net>;
> Ultimatum plus the voting form should not arrive the in middle
> of next week.

I figured that this was a typo and should have been "should now arrive
in the middle of next week" ?

Maybe not... Mine hasn't arrived!
Am I the only one?

Are we going to have to remember to fill in the ballot form AND mail it,
in a week or less ?

Wayne



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It was a typo.

However I hear the printers are being rubbish.

Any news Jack?

Ben
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Retter" <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Subject: Ultimatum & UK Ultimate ballot forms - where are they ?


> Tue, 23 Oct 2001, by Ben Ravilious <mailto:ben@ravilious.net>;
> > Ultimatum plus the voting form should not arrive the in middle
> > of next week.
> 
> I figured that this was a typo and should have been "should now arrive
> in the middle of next week" ?
> 
> Maybe not... Mine hasn't arrived!
> Am I the only one?
> 
> Are we going to have to remember to fill in the ballot form AND mail it,
> in a week or less ?
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Wayne Retter
> mobile: 07970-903420
> w.retter@bigfoot.com
> office: 01737-273655
> 

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Hello BD

Having just picked up for a team at the eleventh hour for Ego wang I was =
wondering if anyone had any floor space for a very poor ex student? =
Here's Hoping.

Ben
AKA Stroke
S&G
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Team Shark for this weekend ;)=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello BD</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Having just picked up for a team at the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ben</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AKA Stroke</FONT></DIV>
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2000: Mexican Horse Bandits 2nd: Blue Arse Flies
Horse Bandits sneaked through the semi-final against Fusion. Most notable
for the moment that Steve Shipley actually let go  during that hammer fake.
As suspected it does not come back down until after it hits the back wall!!!
Horse Bandits beat BAF after being down throughout the whole game to score
the last three points to win. 

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 01 November 2001 22:53
To: BritDisc
Subject: National Indoors Champions



Somewhere on my website I've got a page with a photo of the BUF National
Indoor Championships trophy and a list of Champions on it.

It is, however, a little out of date (last updated 1997!) and I'm
thinking of updating it (or maybe someone else wants it?)

Here's the list I've got, with a quick history lesson attached (feel
free to correct me if I've missed anything/got it wrong!)

BUF National Indoor Champions 
1979    Robber Barons F.C. 
1980    Ally Pally Tossers 
1981    Clivedon Studs 

all of the above are WAY before my time!

1982    Samurai 
        - some of these guys can still be seen playing for HeadRush
1983    Samurai 
1984    Tennants Super F.C. 
        - mostly became 'Mysterons' and later 'Violently Happy'
1985    Warwick Bears 
        - from the cradle of British Ultimate
1986    Battersea Boleros 
        - subtitled 'the Holy Lunching Friars of Voondoon'
1987    Stan 
        - a team of Warwick Bears graduates
1988    Hombres 
        - the UK team with arguably the best UK record (Indoor and
Outdoor) ever
        - they later became 'the old men who play O' in Shotgun Wedding,
who went on to make Clapham their stomping ground
1989    Stan 
1990    Hombres 
1991    Hombres 
1992    Fluid Druids 
        - they're still around, the original UK team to play in purple
1993    Regulators 
        - they later became 'the youngsters who play D' in Shotgun
Wedding. Some of them are now recognisable as the 'old men who play O'
for Clapham.
1994    Fluid Druids 
1995    Fluid Druids 
1996    Fluid Druids 
1997    Fluid Druids

is this right for the more recent years?

1998    UTI             (2nd: Fluid Druids) @ Cheltenham
        - another team of graduate Warwick Bears, some of them now play
for Clapham
1999    Blue Arse Flies (2nd: Fluid Druids) @ Cheltenham
        - they're still around, you know them!
2000    ?               (2nd: ?)@ Plymouth
2001    Mexican Horse Bandits   (2nd: Blue Arse Flies) @ Cheltenham
        - 'Team Shipley'? another group of graduate Warwick Bears

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Results for Sheffield Begginners tournament last weekend as 
follows:

Experienced:

1. Little Shef
2. Space Monkeys
3. Bears
4. Hulltimate
5. Strange Blue
6. Phat'Eds
7. Chuft
8. Purple Haze
9. YBK
10. Jesters

Beginners;

1. Purple Haze
2. Chuft
3. Bears
4. Jesters
6. Jedi
7. No Frills 1
8. Bears 2
9. Kings College
10. Phat'Eds 1
11. YBK 2
12. Phat'Eds 2
13. Strange Blue
14. Space monkeys
15. No Frills 2
16. Hulltimate

Spirit winners: Jesters (They deserve it for the weekend they had.  
hope you all get better soon.)

Lost property as follows:

Vango Sleeping Bag (black)
Divided tigh T (Navy)
Schlumberger cap
Australia T (black)
Hat with pink bobble (black)
XL Donny T (navy)
WUMC T (light blue)
Multi Jester hat (with bells)
Vladivar T (white)
Combats (caramel) with phone charger
towel (blue)
Bum bag (with mens toiletries)
Mizuno XL polo (black)
YUMC vest (navy)
Striped jogging bottoms (black)
KCL shirt
Brown Wig
Long sleeve GAP T (white)
Strnge Blue T

Thanks to everyone that came, everyone seemed to enjoy it.

Cheers,
Dave


Visit our website at www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate

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anyone who can give a lift to cheltenham from london a call to arun and boo 
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Check out my revised results,

Carl
Unhappy at lack of recognition(and including original)
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Sheffield Ultimate wrote:

> Results for Sheffield Begginners tournament last weekend as 
> follows:
> 
> Experienced:
> 
> 1. Little Shef
> 2. Space Monkeys
> 3. Bears
> 4. Hulltimate
> 5. Strange Blue
> 6. Phat'Eds
> 7. Chuft
> 8. Purple Haze
> 9. YBK
> 10. Jesters
> 
> Beginners;
> 
> 1. Purple Haze
> 2. Chuft

  3. YBK 1 !!!  - What happened there Dave?

> 3. Bears
> 4. Jesters
> 6. Jedi
> 7. No Frills 1
> 8. Bears 2
> 9. Kings College
> 10. Phat'Eds 1
> 11. YBK 2
> 12. Phat'Eds 2
> 13. Strange Blue
> 14. Space monkeys
> 15. No Frills 2
> 16. Hulltimate
> 
> Spirit winners: Jesters (They deserve it for the weekend they had.  
> hope you all get better soon.)
> 
> Lost property as follows:
> 
> Vango Sleeping Bag (black)
> Divided tigh T (Navy)
> Schlumberger cap
> Australia T (black)
> Hat with pink bobble (black)
> XL Donny T (navy)
> WUMC T (light blue)
> Multi Jester hat (with bells)
> Vladivar T (white)
> Combats (caramel) with phone charger
> towel (blue)
> Bum bag (with mens toiletries)
> Mizuno XL polo (black)
> YUMC vest (navy)
> Striped jogging bottoms (black)
> KCL shirt
> Brown Wig
> Long sleeve GAP T (white)
> Strnge Blue T
> 
> Thanks to everyone that came, everyone seemed to enjoy it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
> 
> Visit our website at www.shef.ac.uk/~ultimate
> 

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Wow! I seem to have kicked off some memories...
though Ollie's may be a little confused

Ollie Watson wrote:
>Regulators won in 92 not 93 beating Mysterons in a one sided final. Best
>game was the semi tho where the young guns defeated the reigning champs
>Hombres by one point. After yours truly had put Reggies one point up with a
>sublime scuba to Douggie, there were 30 secs left on the clock; Toy fumbled
>Oz's inch perfect hammer in the zone just as the buzzer went, and an era was
>over...
>
>not that anyone <ahem> cares about indoors....

but Andy 'Toyboy' Lucey seems to know more:
> couple of things to get straight here boys!!
>87- (warwick) stan beat hombres by a point
>88- (warwick) hombres win first nationals- arguably the greatest team
ever. (bazzoni, williams, bucholz, slick, toy, oz, cash)
>89- (warwick) stan bt hombres by a point
>90- (oxford) hombres 1 bt hombres a- the only time the same club has
contested a final?
>91- (oxford) hombres bt audrey hepburn
>92- (oxford) hombres lose to reggies in semi

Oz Freire goes for the safer option:
>Can we look at our outdoor record now please Toy!!
>
>O

and Roger Thomson brings us back to the present:
>>arguably the greatest team ever.
>There's no way Nottingham Forest could win the League anymore Brian, let
>alone the European cup. 
>
>Until the modern-day Clapham team eclipsed all of your worldwide adventures
>with the 2nd place at Europeans this summer, maybe you're right ;-)
>
>What a dynasty you lot founded. When are we going to see you again? Surely
>we should have a Clapham old boys party one day - like the Bears do. Bit of
>Ultimate, golf and partying?
>
>How we miss Oz's wayward hucks, Neil's combat rolls, Toy's effeminate
>running style, Jon's seriousness, Rafi's drops at key moments....
>
>rt

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Anna,
You seem to forget how good we actually are at leeds uni at 
attracting and keeping our female players.  I seem to remember 
recruiting you a couple of years back.  That was when we started 
the year with one female and ended it with about 10.  And I also 
recall almost tripling our intake of committed women in the two 
years since.  Yesterday we had a womens game running alongside 
an open game at practice, but oh yeah, you weren't there......

Brendan
Jedi


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Apologies to all of you who don't hibernate indoors during the winter, but
here is what I can remember form Ego yesterday. I duly apologise for any
inaccuracies and omissions since I binned the results yesterday without
thinking - but here goes.

Daisy the Cow Award (Spirit): Fission

1 Suggestive Sculpture Award: Blue Arse Flies
2 Mexican Horse Bandits
3 TeamShark
4 Fission
5 Yo Mama
6 Space Monkeys
7 Whiplash
8 Angels
9 Silver Platter Prize (Plate); Oasis
10 Hammerage
11 - 15 Erm....
16 BAF Too
17 Ego Spoon Face Award (Spoon); FlyTNT
18 Rhapsody Angels (or was it Destiny Angels)
19 onwards - I'm struggling

A great final - tight all the way with neither team getting more than one
point ahead until the end. BAF went into the cap 1 point up and receiving
the disc. A patient possession and score  took us to within one point of the
game, and an uncharacteristic throwaway from the elder Shipley allowed a D
by Zulu and a rapid score from BAF to win the game 14-11. Great spirit with
the only call being a contested foul / forced-out call.

Apologies to those teams that got confused by the schedule. Hope you all
enjoyed yourself - and we might see you again next year.

Chris



___________________________________________________________

    Chris Hughes
    Lecturer in Biomechanics
    School of Sport and Leisure
    University of Gloucestershire
    Hardwick Campus
    St Paul's Road
    Cheltenham
    GL50 4BS

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Could whoever submitted details for a team in St Andrews called 'STADU' or
'STD' please supply some proper contact details (especially an email
address) or you will not be going to any tournaments.

http://www.ukultimate.com/teaminfo.asp?TeamID=491

"We are a bunch of St Andrew's Ultimate players hoping to play in the Tours
and other Open tournaments. Fun, yet competitive Ultimate. Few years
experience needed."


Thanks

Ben

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Caretaker Secretary
UK Ultimate



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Hi BD

175grm Discraft Ultrastars for sale
White with a minimal black print
Think of them as hot-stamp rejects

5GBP per disc + the postage necessary to get them to you
Big orders are better but singles are availalbe too

Please foward this to your team mailing list.
Can someone who's on the Youth and Student lists forward it please?

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Got my copy of the Ultimatum magazine...very nice,
great job people.  Now lets get those votes in and get
things going.

Clubs going to Edinburgh beginners:

We have run out of our lovely dufdiscs, sorry all
those who were hoping to purchase one.  Great we have
got our money back on them but it does leave us with
the small problem that our keen freshers are hungry
for discs and we can't feed them.  Are people taking
discs to Edinburgh this weekend?  If so would it
possible for us to sort out a deal...a discount if we
buy a lot?  Unfortunately I will not be going,
dissertation due already!!  If you could get back in
contact with me then we could sort something out with
the coaches that we are sending up with our beginners.

love and respect,

Matt
Pres. Durham Ultimate (Northern Lights)
07813-832-023 orange

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The following teams have sent a cheque for Leeds Indoors.  If your name is
not on the list the cheque has not been received.  Space for 20 teams - will
restrict to 16 if 20 do not enter.

Teams entered - 1 place left

Janitors
More Janitors
Mexican Horse Bandits
West York's All Stars
Mr Men
Flight Club
Far Flung
Angels
Odd Job
Space Monkeys
Fission
Passive Peter & Friends
Surrey University
Jammie Bodgers
Mentall Discs

Tournament details will be posted next week - unable to reply to any mails
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Usual apologies for those who are not Challis and know nothing of his 
whereabouts, but this is the only way I can think to get hold of him.

I played in Stuttgart at the weekend, and all the locals wanted to catch up 
with him, but his challis77 address isn't active.

Please mail back to me (or to Lisa or Gaby or Jan) to re-establish contact.

Cheers
Wayne
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I (and, I suspect, many others) am still looking forward to hearing
about your plans for next year... even if you don't have anything
specific in mind, I'd like to know *that*.

Frankly, "wait and see" just doesn't cut it - especially when I've got
the ballot form in front of me and I'm working out which 11 of the 15
candidates would (IMHO) be best for the board.

Regards
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Newport Indoor Tournament is now FULL, with a Reserve list in operation.

Teams (16) who have entered:

Team                    Contact
 1 Strange Blue         Dora Kemp
 2 "Trig's Team"        Andrew 'Trig' Feltham
 3 Angels               Simon Barry
 4 Mr Men               Damian Mudge
 5 Blue Arse Flies      James 'Balti' Hewitson
 6 Space Monkeys        Tom Candlin
 7 Slipdisc             Katie Little
 8 Oasis                Phil Cooper
 9 SkuMy                Andy 'Angie' Cox
10 Vortex Camulodunum   Jim Lomas
11 Sublime Open         Aidan Baker
12 Discult              Alan Harding
13 Yo Mama              Will Parker
14 Bristol              Adam Batchelor
15 Whiplash             Sarah Kirwan
16 Hammerage            Simon Norris

Reserve List:

Team                    Contact
 1 Slipdisc 2           Katie Little
 2 Purple Haze          Rene Jahn
 3 Playthings           Neil Hornsey

All team contacts should have received emails confirming status.

>Newport Indoor Tournament, 19+20 January 2002
>
>The entry fee for Newport 2002 is GBP 90.00
>Cheques should be payable to "Fluid Druids Ultimate Club"
>
>and mailed to the following address: 
>        Newport Indoor Tournament
>        c/o Wayne Retter
>        8 Avon House
>        Rutland Close
>        Redhill
>        Surrey
>        RH1 1EH
>
>we will also require as much as possible of the following information: 
>
>Team Name:
>Contact Name:
>Contact Address:
>Home phone:
>Home Email:
>Work Phone:
>Work Email: 
>
>We will then confirm receipt of your entry.
>
>If you're particularly worried about its whereabouts, Wayne can be
>contacted:
>phone: 01737-218489
>email: contact@fluiddruids.com
>
>No entries will be confirmed until cheques AND contact details have been
>received - "the cheque's in the mail" is a nice line, but won't help! 
>
>We only have room for 16 teams. 
>
>2nd teams: entries for second (or a second, but equal...) teams will not
>be allowed until 01 January 2000. Any such cheques/details received
>before this date will be held until then before being put onto the
>entrants list. 
>
>We'll be playing all day Saturday (9am to 9pm) and most of Sunday (9am
>to 6pm) 
>
>You will need to find your own accommodation - we can provide none;
>Newport has several B&Bs, and a Travelodge not too far away.
>
>There is no planned evening event. 

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>Got my copy of the Ultimatum magazine...very nice, great job people.

Seconded!

>  Now lets get those votes in and get things going.

I have a couple of questions, on behalf of some people that haven't been
paying enough attention or have suffered a lack of internet connection
and haven't registered for voting/Ultimatum:

1) can they still vote ? (using a photocopy of a teammates ballot
sheet?)
2) can they still acquire Ultimatum somehow ?

Best Regards
Wayne

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Wayne & others,

1. No. The deadline for voting registration (which we extended by a week
anyway)
was 26th October. 537 people were registered when I downloaded the database
at 5pm that Friday.

2. Yes. You can still get hold of the magazine - we will be mailing them to
team contacts soon and maybe also distributing them at tournaments.

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Retter" <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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>
> >Got my copy of the Ultimatum magazine...very nice, great job people.
>
> Seconded!
>
> >  Now lets get those votes in and get things going.
>
> I have a couple of questions, on behalf of some people that haven't been
> paying enough attention or have suffered a lack of internet connection
> and haven't registered for voting/Ultimatum:
>
> 1) can they still vote ? (using a photocopy of a teammates ballot
> sheet?)
> 2) can they still acquire Ultimatum somehow ?
>
> Best Regards
> Wayne
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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> mobile: 07970-903420
> w.retter@bigfoot.com
> office: 01737-273655
>


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We at Slipdisc have recently had an intake of beginners and are in the process
of training them up to be Ultimate superstars!  It would be nice for them to get
some tournament experience without getting stuffed in every game.

Is there any demand, out there in the wide world of frisbee, for a small
(probably 10-16 team) indoor beginner's only (say, played less than a year)
tournament in Birmingham some time in the new year?

I have to be fairly non-committal about this at the moment as it is just an idea
for now, but if there is demand then we will look into putting it on.

Please reply to this e-mail address if your team might be interested...

Cheers

Si. (Slipdisc)




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After a good suggestion from Tom (Space Monkeys) we would probably allow 1 or 2
experienced players per team to play.

The idea is to help the new guys learn how to play the game properly, so the
experienced players can act as on the pitch coaches to encourage 'proper'
Ultimate, rather than encouraging running around like headless chickens! (But
that's how Slipdisc play normally, I hear you cry!)

Let me know...

Si.




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From: Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
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Does this mean that we are ment to have voting forms by now?  Wayne seemed
to suggest such - but i am still waiting for anything to come through my
door.  Have I missed some crutial stage in the sign up process or have the
forms not gone out yet.

Let me know,

Ben

On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Ben Ravilious wrote:

> Wayne & others,
>
> 1. No. The deadline for voting registration (which we extended by a week
> anyway)
> was 26th October. 537 people were registered when I downloaded the database
> at 5pm that Friday.
>
> 2. Yes. You can still get hold of the magazine - we will be mailing them to
> team contacts soon and maybe also distributing them at tournaments.
>
> Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Retter" <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
> To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Sent: 06 November 2001 21:55
> Subject: Ultimatum
>
>
> >
> > >Got my copy of the Ultimatum magazine...very nice, great job people.
> >
> > Seconded!
> >
> > >  Now lets get those votes in and get things going.
> >
> > I have a couple of questions, on behalf of some people that haven't been
> > paying enough attention or have suffered a lack of internet connection
> > and haven't registered for voting/Ultimatum:
> >
> > 1) can they still vote ? (using a photocopy of a teammates ballot
> > sheet?)
> > 2) can they still acquire Ultimatum somehow ?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Wayne
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Wayne Retter
> > mobile: 07970-903420
> > w.retter@bigfoot.com
> > office: 01737-273655
> >
>
>

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For everyone coming up to Edinburgh Beginners this weekend:

We will be meeting on Friday night in the usual pub for Edinburgh tournaments, 
The Crags.  Directions for how to get there are given below.  There will be 
someone there to meet you from about 8 - 8.30pm.  The Crags is an 'It's a 
scream' pub, so don't forget your yellow cards if you want cheap drinks.

Captains meeting will be held just outside the pub (so it'll be quick!) at 12, 
which should give people a chance to get there.

The pub shuts at 1am, so if you're going to be later than that phone me 
(07776 187819) and we'll sort something out.  Any other problems/ questions, 
let me know.  They don't call me Lindsay'll Fixit for nothing, you know!  Well, 
they don't actually call me that, but you get the idea.

See you all Friday,

Lindsay
Ro-Sham-Bo



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DIRECTIONS


Here follows direction to the The Crags. There will be people to meet you there 
from about 8:30 pm on.

1. FROM THE AIRPORT

Once you have arrived at Edinburgh Airport you can take either the taxi or
the bus. You can catch either type of bus. The fare is about 4 pounds. The
bus will finally travel along Princes Street, and stop on Waverley Bridge,
just beside the station. Walk back up the road to Princes Street, turn right
and follow the road until you get to the lights and turn right up the hill,
this is North Bridge.

You can KEEP walking along the road. Just after passing The Abbey pub (on
South Clerk Street) take a left, and follow the road (East Preston Street)
to the T-junction, then turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the
road after one block. This walk will take about half an hour!

OR

Catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' from North Bridge, and then
walk along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub and turn left at 
the set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-
junction. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block, 
opposite the Commonwealth Pool.

OR

Get a taxi to The Crags , which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool.


2. FROM THE BUS STATION

The new bus terminal is currently under construction, so the easiest thing to 
do after arriving at St. Andrews Square is to ask someone (if they look 
official, this will probably help!) how to get to Princes St. Walk along 
Princes St away from the shops and North Bridge is on your right.

If you arrive at Waterloo Place, walk along Princes St. towards all the shops, 
and North Bridge is on your left.

Walk straight up North Bridge and continue along until the far end of South
Clerk Street; at this set of traffic lights take a left (just after passing
The Abbey pub) and follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction and 
turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block: this 
walk will take about half an hour!

OR

>From North Bridge catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' and then walk 
along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub and turn left at the 
set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction. 
The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block, opposite the 
Commonwealth Pool.

OR

Get a taxi to The Crags, which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool.


3. FROM THE TRAIN STATION

Once you have arrived in Edinburgh Waverley station find the large notice board 
(with arrivals and departures), turn your back to it. You should see a sign for 
the Way Out on your left. Take the steps (rising up over the bike stands) that 
go up to Waverley Market, they turn right and take you up to the East end of 
Princes Street.

Catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' from North Bridge, and then 
walk along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub, and turn left 
at the set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-
junction and turn right, it is on the right hand side of the road after one 
block, opposite the Commonwealth Pool.

OR

Get a taxi to The Crags, which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool.


OR

Walk straight up North Bridge and continue along South Bridge, Nicolson Street, 
Clerk Street, South Clerk Street, at the set of traffic lights take a left 
(just after passing The Abbey pub) and follow the road to the T-junction and 
turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block: this 
walk will take about half an hour!


4. BY ROAD

Follow the instructions for your chosen route.


A1 ROUTE

Follow the A1 until you reach the A720. Continue along the road and take the 
first exit, A 6095. The streets you drive along are as follows:

, Newcraighall Road

, Niddrie Mains Road

Continue along Niddrie Mains Road. After two more sets of lights, this changes 
name to Peffermill Road. Follow to the roundabout and take the third exit, 
Dalkeith Road. Follow this road until you reach the Commonwealth Pool.

The Crags pub is opposite, parking is available in the pub car park, and the 
bar will be open.


M6/M74 ROUTE

Follow the M6 until it becomes the M74/A74. Keep on this road until you get to 
Junction 13 (of the M74) which is at Abington. Follow the signs for the A702. 
Remember to take the A702 when it forks right shortly after joining the A702, 
or you'll drive straight onto the A73. The A702 is the usual route to Edinburgh 
and passes through Biggar. After about 40 miles you will pass the Hillend 
Artificial Ski Slopes. You want to take the City By-pass to the East, A720, to 
do this, drive over it and then come back round the roundabout and turn left 
down the slip road. Take the first exit, the A701.

The streets you drive along are as follows:

, Burdiehouse Road

, Howden Hall Road, Liberton Gardens

, Liberton Brae

, Liberton Road

, Lady Road

Take the first left at the roundabout, and follow this road until you reach the 
Commonwealth Pool. The Crags pub is opposite, parking is available in the pub 
car park, and the bar will still be open.

OTHER ROUTES

Whatever other route you come to Edinburgh it is easy to meet the A720, the 
Edinburgh By-pass. If you don't know of an easier way, follow this until you 
reach the A701. The instructions after this are given above.


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Wed, 7 Nov 2001, by Ben Booth <mailto:booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>;
 Subject: Ultimatum
>Does this mean that we are ment to have voting forms by now?  Wayne seemed
>to suggest such - but i am still waiting for anything to come through my
>door.  Have I missed some crutial stage in the sign up process or have the
>forms not gone out yet.

They seem to be dropping through people's letterboxes any time now -
mine arrived on Tuesday.

Assuming that you did the web sign-up thing...

Wayne

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Weeks isnt on Britdisc is he?
and there is no contact email or phone on his manifesto.

Could someone please tell him he needs to address some issues before we can
vote for him.

Stig

 ----------
From: Wayne Retter
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: re: Dear DoC nominee...
Date: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:08PM


I (and, I suspect, many others) am still looking forward to hearing
about your plans for next year... even if you don't have anything
specific in mind, I'd like to know *that*.

Frankly, "wait and see" just doesn't cut it - especially when I've got
the ballot form in front of me and I'm working out which 11 of the 15
candidates would (IMHO) be best for the board.

Regards
Wayne Retter
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Message from Si Weeks

Wayne et al.,

I think at this point I need to make a few things clear about my
intentions of standing for the post of Director of Competitions. I do not 
have big plans to revolutionise British ultimate, nor do I have plans to 
change the format of the tour, coed tour or indoor season. I simply think 
that the DoC is a vital role within UK ultimate and if I don't do it, I 
doubt anyone else will. If someone else considers that they will be able to 
devote large amounts of time to the development of the tournament structure 
then I am more than willing to step down from the election.

On the other hand I think I will be able to do a good job at keeping
things ticking over, and with the assistance from other volunteers, ensure 
that all the hard work Chris has put in over recent years is not wasted. 
Whether you think I have the time, drive and enthusiasm to do this is your 
choice.

In reference to Wayne's specific points, I am not too keen to get
involved in the politics of British ultimate and would rather that decisions 
such as profiteering from tournaments and the structure of the tour were 
made by the U8 committee or a competitions sub-committee. All I would like 
to do is make sure the tournaments continue to happen and people continue to 
be able to play ultimate as little or as often as they like.

I hope that clears up my intentions. Sorry for the delay in the
response.

Si Weeks




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Subject: Qualification for Winter League Matchday 2 + PS about Ultimatum
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MatchDay 2 is on the 25th November and the 6 teams who stayed up for sure
(Clapham 1 and 2, Druids, Sharks, S&G, Fever) are waiting to see who'll join
them in the next clash of the London Winter League titans.

It had been proposed that other teams would 'qualify' this weekend (10th or
11th) in Regent's park.

DEFINITELY IN:
Hammerage 
Sublime
NOT HEARD FROM:
BadHabits
DiscDoctors
CloudThings
Pyramus

Could someone from each of those last 4 teams get in touch urgently please,
none of your captains have replied to my mails. Especially DiscDoctors and
CloudThings as you sounded so keen and this is in your back yard...

Thanks
Roger

PS Great Ultimatum Jack. I thougt it really reflected the surge of
popularity and ability we've seen in British Ultimate we've seen in the last
few years. If the UK Ultimate website was kept current with decent content
like that we'd really be taking another big step forward. None of the
to-be-elected lot seem to have very detailed proposals about this, would one
of you like to comment? An improvement of the site in this direction would
be minimal work and would really help consolidate our growing community.






>Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:17:59 -0000
>
>My organisational powers, although heralded as magical, have been suffering
>due to severe work and domestic problems. I beg forgiveness but had rather
>hoped you crowd would come to a decision as to the best thing to do without
>me. Sorry, but I just never figured on having to run two divisions, don't
>really have the time, and need more help than has thus far been 
>forthcoming.
>
>Teams in the frame:
>Hammerage - eager to know if they have to play this weekend
>BadHabits
>DiscDoctors - said 'hope to get a team together' but have had no
>confirmation.
>CloudThings
>Pyramus and Frisbee
>Sublime - seem interested and want to play this weekend
>
>Let's see who wants to play this weekend. You can make room on Clapham or
>play in Regent's - I care not. You must play with the newly introduced
>roster rule IF you want to qualify (any teams breaking the rule must 
>declare
>themselves at the onset so others know what they need to acheive).
>
>PLEASE ALL DECLARE YOURSELVES IMMEDIATELY OR WE'RE CHUFFED!!!
>
>If we don't get enough then I'll decide who gets in (probably relegating
>only BadHabits and deciding between DiscDoctors and Cloudthings as next two
>on the waiting list - asking them to play each other or tossing a coin).
>
>In future you could all play in a second division on the same date if you
>want - and we'll swap top and bottom ONE team each time. But it's up to you
>teams as the most likely to compose the bottom division; I don't want or
>have the time to do it all for you. If you get it going you are bound to
>
>Sorry, all I can do.
>
>Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Thomson
>Sent: 29 October 2001 16:04
>To: 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com'; 'Nolan';
>'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; philipharveynz@hotmail.com;
>'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 'Porter, Matthew
>(London)'; 'Lewis Glover'; 'Kynan Cheng'; 'nolan@firebrand.co.uk'
>Subject: London Winter League Matchday 1: Results - READ CAREFULLY AND
>REPLY!
>
>
>NEWSFLASH: Sharks and Druids throw away leads against Clapham 1 and 2
>respectively in their pool games; Druids losing to Clapham 2 in a penalty
>shoot-out ending at 12-12. Clapham 2 pay for failing to convert possesion
>into a 2 point lead - Clapham 1 grind out a 13-10 final victory. NightFever
>get 6 off Clapham 2, confound seedings and avoid relegation by spanking
>Hammerage 13-5. No rain, lots of beer!
>
>Thanks all for coming down and making it a great day. It all went off 
>rather
>well :-)
>
>Full results:
>A: Clapham A (1), TeamShark (4), Smash & Grab (5), BadHabits (8)
>B: Clapham B (2), Fluid Druids (3), Hammerage (6), NightFever (7)
>10am: Captain's meeting
>10.30am: 1v8(12-3), 4v5(13-4), 2v7(13-6), 3v6(13-3)
>11.45am: 1v5(15-1), 4v8(13-3), 2v6(13-2), 3v7(13-2)
>1pm: 1v4(12-10), 5v8(13-5), 2v3(13-12), 6v7(5-13)
>2.30pm: A1vB1(13-10), A2vB2(13-11), A3vB3(13-8), A4vB4(13-5)
>
>Dougie and I spent a while last night pondering the best methods for giving
>out points. Our favourite proposed scoring method is:
>1/ For each game, number of points your team scored plus the goal 
>difference
>if you win. This gives losing teams the incentive to score as many as they
>can, as well as the winning team an incentive to win by as much as 
>possible.
>2/ No quadrupling or doubling of points for the final or semi.
>3/ 80 points for coming 1st, 70 for 2nd........10 for 8th. This stretches
>the gap between finishing positions a bit to avoid the previously discussed
>non-linearities of 3rd getting more points than 2nd (and 5th more than 4th
>etc etc) unless they really get some significantly more resounding 
>victories
>(which they didn't). We tried lots of combinations of quadrupling points,
>not point difference and all sorts of things, but couldn't think of 
>anything
>better.
>
>Points would read:
>Clapham 1 - 158
>Clapham 2 - 138
>Fluid Druids - 134
>TeamShark - 116
>Smash & Grab - 84
>NightFever - 67
>Hammerage - 51
>BadHabits - 26
>
>These point scores would seem to reflect the relative closenesses of games
>and teams pretty well. Druids get nearly as many points as Clapham 2 
>because
>they had a 1 point better goal difference in pool play and only lost the
>'semi' by 1. Team Shark were a bit further behind because they were too 
>soft
>on the easy teams in their pool and didn't get within 2 of Clapham 1 or
>Druids. The four lower placed teams were fairly linear - except Habits who
>were a bit further behind.
>
>Comments? Opinions? I'm not set on this and am happy to change - I quite
>like the experimental nature of how we organise all this - will provide 
>more
>lessons for the future I think if we fine tune as we go along.
>
>Could the teams please reconfirm their desire to play on Matchday 2, and
>supply phone numbers if you haven't managed to do so so far (Sharks,
>Hammerage, Habits....).
>
>And comment on the next two provisional dates: Matchday 3 - 12th January,
>Matchday 4 - 10th or 17th February. Whaddya fink?
>
>Oh, and the following teams still owe me £20 (fee was reduced because of no
>marked pitches): Druids, TeamShark, Fever, Hammerage, Habits. I make no
>apologies for still charging for the event: we want to have prizes and 
>maybe
>a party, we still haven't given up on the marked pitches, it represents
>remarkable value for money vis-a-vis ANY other competetive fixture, and it
>is widely recognised that tournament organisers make some profit for their
>teams or themselves. Please send your cheques straight away (for this and
>the next event) to Roger Thomson, 19 Clapham Mansions, Nightingale Lane,
>London, SW4 9AQ.
>
>RELEGATION AND QUALIFICATION
>Hmmm - to be honest I don't think we anticipated the level of interest we'd
>get for the Winter League. There are 4 teams on the waiting list:
>DiscDoctors, Cloudthings, Pyramus and Sublime. I very much want to give 
>them
>the chance to participate, but it has to be in a way that satisfies the top
>teams desire to play the 'best of the rest' while still having *some* churn
>at the bottom. Given that there are 4 of you we could either: relegate
>BadHabits for sure and leave Hammerage in - leaving those 4 on the waiting
>list to play for one slot at a one-off qualification event. I dislike that
>because I'd like to encourage the 'second division' and not exclude
>BadHabits from any competitive play for several months. I prefer playing
>making Hammerage requalify as well and giving Habits another chance -
>therefore making a 6 team qualification event (maybe in North London on Nov
>10th or 11th??). 2 pools of 3, one crossover - with the rule that to
>requalify Hammerage or Habits have to win the whole thing (ie second isn't
>good enough for them but it is for teams which weren't just relegated). 
>That
>should satisfy the churn requirement whilst ensuring quality remains high.
>I'd like to add one roster requirement - if you play for a team in the 2nd
>division and they get promoted - you've got to play for them in the 1st
>division. Otherwise there's a danger that certain players will get weaker
>teams promoted, but go back and play with stronger teams in the 1st 
>division
>- leaving weaker teams than there should be for the top teams to beat up on
>(no fun). Are you all willing to play in a qualification day, and the 
>League
>proper on the 25th if you qualify? Lewis (Druids and Sublime, hmm wonder 
>why
>I mentioned that...) has kindly offered to organise. What do you think? Is
>it too much hassle? Would you rather we just demote 2 and move 2 up from 
>the
>waiting list? Would you rather we do it on seedings (which would mean 
>little
>churn at the bottom as I've no idea how good/bad the other teams are)? We
>may only need a couple of qualification events in all to establish who's
>stronger than whom, but at the same time if there's interest there's no
>reason not to do it more often. I'd very much value opinions from the teams
>in those positions as I would like this to evolve as a communal kind of
>thing............but at the same time need to ensure that it's the stronger
>teams that get the slots in the first division.
>
>Congrats to NightFever for avoiding the battle!
>
>Oh - there was some Lost Property, but I err, <eek> lost it in the pub 
>after
>too many beers </eek>. I'm sure someone else must have picked it up. The
>only thing I still have is a Czech T-shirt that I think is Carthorse's. 
>Next
>time I will appoint a Lost Property monitor I promise.
>
>Have I forgotten anything? Probably...please let me know. Thanks again for
>making it a great day, and a step forward for Ultimate in the South.
>
>Cheers,
>Roger
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Thomson
>Sent: 26 October 2001 16:50
>To: Roger Thomson; 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com';
>'Nolan'; 'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com;
>philipharveynz@hotmail.com <mailto:philipharveynz@hotmail.com> ;
>'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 'Porter, Matthew 
>(London)'
>Cc: britdisc; ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com; 
>londonleague@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: London Winter League Matchday 1
>
>
>Sorry to bother you all again.
>
>Remember it's the end of BST this weekend, so if you turn up at the Common
>at 9.00am you're a muppet. We get an extra hour of sleep, or more likely of
>partying on Saturday night :-)
>
>God bless Ultimate,
>
>Silver Bear
>CU #1
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com]
>Sent: 25 October 2001 12:28
>To: 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com'; 'Nolan';
>'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; philipharveynz@hotmail.com;
>'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 'Porter, Matthew 
>(London)'
>Cc: britdisc; ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com; 
>londonleague@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: London Winter League Matchday 1
>
>
>okeydokey, sorry to bore you sports-hallers with this:
>
>Wayne has been advising me of formats for Sunday and we've decided to do 2
>pools of 4, with one crossover game each to finish the day off. Pools will
>be seeded:  A: 1,4,5,8    B: 2,3,6,7 ;in order that 'semis' have happenned
>(as opposed to the Tour pools which avoid that). Clapham will be entering 2
>fairly even teams, and as all teams are slightly weakened vis-a-vis
>Nationals teams the seedings are:
>A: Clapham A (1), TeamShark (4), Smash & Grab (5), BadHabits (8)
>B: Clapham B (2), Fluid Druids (3), Hammerage (6), NightFever (7)
>
>The council has let us down on the marked pitch front (Boo!) as Paul H 
>seems
>to have developed a confrontational relationship with the rather unfriendly
>pitches person (only joking Paul). Even my silver tongue couldn't make her
>change her mind though so we'll have to make do without (and she was a real
>b*t*h). It may cause some inconvenience but shouldn't be too disruptive.
>There's plenty of room for four pitches and we'll set them up no bother.
>Four pitches means we can finish in 4 time slots and can take it all at a
>more chilled pace without the need to start at 9am or finish in the dark.
>
>The pitches will be right by Clapham South tube station and by the pond a
>few hundred yards away.
>
>10am: Captain's meeting
>10.30am: 1v8, 4v5, 2v7, 3v6
>11.45am: 1v5, 4v8, 2v6, 3v7
>1pm: 1v4, 5v8, 2v3, 6v7
>2.30pm: A1vB1, A2vB2, A3vB3, A4vB4
>4pm: Derby vs Chelsea <eek> and beers down the George
>
>Games will be to one hour then finish the point. If one team is more than 2
>points ahead - game over, otherwise cap to ONE point over the team ahead's
>total. The reason for this is to allow us to keep to schedule whilst still
>giving team's a chance to come back at the last minute. There seem few
>disadvantages compared to a two point cap - teams will just have to start
>playing harder at 50 minutes and realise the one point cap is their
>Solskjaeresque last chance....Am happy to discuss at the captain's meeting.
>If it's a sudden death - we play penalty shootout ending and all other 6
>teams gather round in amazement 8-). Only exception is the crossover games 
>-
>where we should play 2 point cap regardless of closeness of the ending.
>Teams that are late can be fined 1 point per 2 minutes late, and forfeit 
>the
>game if they're more than 10 minutes late (the Committe will decide what to
>do about point differences).
>
>The team that finishes bottom will definitely be relegated and replaced for
>Matchday 2 in November. The 7th place team *may* be given the chance to
>requalify by playing the teams lower down the waiting list (which currently
>consists of 3 teams: Imperial DiscDoctors, CloudThings, Pyramus & Frisbee) 
>-
>depending on those team's ability/willingness to play one or more
>qualification games before Matchday 2). Ideally those games would happen at
>a self-organised one-dayer on the 10th or 11th of November (and develop 
>into
>a second division playing out of sync with the first division), but
>unfortunately I don't have the time to organise or dictate; if nothing
>happens you'll be subject to our whim and rather limited concept of
>fairness, sorry but can't think of any alternative. If you'd like to add
>your team to the list for November, you've got until Sunday 10.30am to mail
>me.
>
>Forecast is for light rain or cloudy weather. Could team captains please
>supply mobile numbers to me and your teams so that just in case we get hit
>by freak hail storms I can ring the captains and they can get in touch with
>team members. I'll be able to check the weather as I live less than 20 
>yards
>from the pitches - my mobile number is 07973 620845 but PLEASE DON'T RING 
>B4
>8am on pain of disqualification and death.
>
>TOP CLAPHAM TIP: Bring a bin liner with your kit - a wonderful and cheap
>waterproof bag with room for your bag and a friend's: if I'd thought of it
>sooner we'd be selling Clapham branded ones at £1 each.
>
>3 days left - pray for no rain, and that NightFever and Hammerage beat
>Druids! ;-)
>
>Kind regards
>Silver Bear
>CU #1
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger Thomson [mailto:roger.thomson@oyster.com]
>Sent: 19 October 2001 12:46
>To: 'Wayne Retter'; 'James Hammersley'; 'adam@ummedia.com'; 'Nolan';
>'simon.norris@virgin.net'; ken@kenandjana.com; philipharveynz@hotmail.com;
>'Dray,Nick'; 'Sheppard, Mungo'; 'Armitage, John'; 'Porter, Matthew 
>(London)'
>Cc: britdisc; ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com; 
>londonleague@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ClaphamBullfrogs] London Winter League News
>
>
>The following teams have secured places at the 1st event on Sunday 28th
>October; on the basis that they were the first to apply, and on the basis
>that they're the strongest teams on Nationals rankings:
>
>Clapham 1
>Druids
>TeamShark
>Clapham 2
>Smash & Grab
>Hammerage
>NightFever
>Badhabits
>
>Please could the captains of these teams who have been mailing me send a
>confirmatory email ASAP (also confirming you want to play at the 2nd 
>event).
>Final seedings will be dictated by how Clapham decide to split their squad.
>Format and other details will be circulated next week. Expect games to 
>start
>on Clapham Common at 10 or 11am. We are making progress on the pitch
>markings and should have 3 permanently marked pitches in time and all 
>winter
>- provided Paul Hurt can bully the council into moving faster than their
>accustomed glacier pace. Cost will be £30/team regardless, no need to send
>cheques - please bring £££'s on the day.
>
>Very sorry, the following two teams also applied but unfortunately we don't
>have space to cater for them:
>Imperial College Discdoctors
>Cloudthings
>
>Please could the captains of these two teams confirm that they would still
>like to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November. We will decide very
>soon whether there will be some form of one-off qualification game against
>the relegated teams, whether you will get a slot due to having been on the
>waiting list, or some mixture of the two. Rest assured there will be
>relegation of AT LEAST one team and one of you, if not both, will get the
>chance to play in November: the bottom teams in the League really do have
>something to play for!
>
>Any other teams wanting to enter the 2nd event on Sunday 25th November are
>still welcome to apply, please do so before the deadline of Sunday 28th
>October.
>
>Pick-up players or ringers please contact the team captains directly. There
>are no roster rules, and some of the teams will probably appreciate quality
>ringers because of missing players.
>
>!!! Does anyone have scoreboards we could borrow please? Would make the
>whole thing look a little more organised..!!! While I'm on that subject
>doesn't someone have a word doc about how to be a Tournament Director and
>formats and things? Might be helpful. Thanks.
>
>Comments/Questions/Amusing ideas to me at this address.
>
>Kind regards,
>Roger
>
>CU #1
>
>
>
>
>
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To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: UK Ultimate election
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:59:28 -0000
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Dear all

In response to recent queries on Britdisc I thought I should send out a few
notes on my approach to the role of treasurer so that you can decide whether
to vote for me or for a re-election.

My general view is that the treasurer is not the person who decides how the
money is spent but is there to ensure that the finances are controlled and
that financial information is made available to the members as transparently
as possible.

Key concerns of mine are as follows:

That we can keep the membership fee as low as possible and that members
perceive that they receive value for money.

That the members have sufficient opportunity to express their wishes as to
how income will be spent. To meet this I would like to carry out a
questionnaire (hopefully online) in order that some good quality feedback
can be received on how we want to spend our money.

That we can provide some level of insurance cover but that in doing this we
don't open the association to any claims from members or third parties. I
would like some more advice in this area but I imagine at a minimum that all
members will need to sign some kind of waiver.

That we can minimise admin costs in the area of collecting membership fees
and communicating with members

If you want to discuss any issues in more depth with me then you can mail me
directly on wdavey@ingenta.com



Wayne
Headrush


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From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
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It is on issues such as insurance and liability that I can offer advice and
opinion and extract from legal council their opinion as to the direction we
should go. I must say that potential Codes of Practice, Insurance etc are
terminally boring, if essential in this increasingly litigious world we live
in.

Vote Fatboy - you know it makes no sense

Adam Batchelor

PS If you don't vote for Laura, Ben and Chris you are terminally STUPID.
These people have the vision and should be given an overwhelming mandate for
the work they have done to get us here, so they continue with the enthusiasm
to carry it through. Oh yeah, Ian Stebbing as well ;)


----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Davey <wdavey@ingenta.com>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: UK Ultimate election
>
> Key concerns of mine are as follows:
>
> That we can keep the membership fee as low as possible and that members
> perceive that they receive value for money.
>
> That the members have sufficient opportunity to express their wishes as to
> how income will be spent. To meet this I would like to carry out a
> questionnaire (hopefully online) in order that some good quality feedback
> can be received on how we want to spend our money.
>
> That we can provide some level of insurance cover but that in doing this
we
> don't open the association to any claims from members or third parties. I
> would like some more advice in this area but I imagine at a minimum that
all
> members will need to sign some kind of waiver.
>
> That we can minimise admin costs in the area of collecting membership fees
> and communicating with members
>
> If you want to discuss any issues in more depth with me then you can mail
me
> directly on wdavey@ingenta.com
>
>
>
> Wayne
> Headrush
>
>
>

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Si,

Do you plan to get email access? Or at least have your phone number 
published on the BUA website, as the DoC surely must be contactable at short 
notice.

Cheers,

Angie

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From: "Barry O'Kane" <barry.okane@visitscotland.com>
To: "Wayne Retter" <wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk>, <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Dear DoC nominee...
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Wayne (and others), to try and answer your question,

There are three specific reasons I have decided to stand.
- regional representation
	It is very important that UK Ultimate is pro-active in promoting
teams/tournaments/growth/development outside the existing Ultimate
strongholds - areas such as Scotland and (Northern) Ireland.
- coaching
	Those who teach, captain and develop teams at all levels need to be given
help, resources, recognition and encouragement.  For example, I'd like to
see UK Ultimate pick up the coaching qualifications/courses that Si Moore
started work on several years ago.
- web use
	As Roger pointed out the high quality of this special issue of Ultimatum
needs to be reflected online.  Ultimate has a ridiculously large pool of
talented web people to draw from - the BUFWebsites team started making some
excellent plans.


Those are my personal soapbox topics.

However, (at the risk of repeating myself ;) I think the new assoc is a
chance to co-ordinate and encourage all the individual effort that people
put in everywhere - and the board are representatives of the whole
community - so I'm sure that everyone who is voted in will make themselves
available to help with any issues association members raise.

Barry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Wayne Retter
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:08 PM
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: re: Dear DoC nominee...
>
>
>
> I (and, I suspect, many others) am still looking forward to hearing
> about your plans for next year... even if you don't have anything
> specific in mind, I'd like to know *that*.
>
> Frankly, "wait and see" just doesn't cut it - especially when I've got
> the ballot form in front of me and I'm working out which 11 of the 15
> candidates would (IMHO) be best for the board.
>
> Regards
> Wayne Retter
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Wayne Retter
> mobile: 07970-903420
> w.retter@bigfoot.com
> office: 01737-273655
>

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Another message from Si Weeks

Yes my phone number will be available if I am elected to the post of DoC, 
although I hope that with the aid of a few volunteers, there will be more 
than one contact depending on what particular issue you are phoning about 
(eg co-ed, open, indoors, etc).

I am also looking to get internet access if possible, so that I will be more 
easily contactable by email.

Cheers,

Simon





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From: "Pete Harvey" <harvey@backspin.co.uk>
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Hi all,
 
I'll keep this brief as your inboxes are probably suffering enough - a
full copy of my manifesto is at
http://www.backspin.co.uk/uproar/manifesto.htm    
 
Why am I standing in the election?
To represent the voice of clapham, London and GB.
To offer my skills in web, branding, merchandising and PR. Not just as a
consultant, but in actually making these things work for us.
To ensure the continuation of the foundations which have already been
laid by the BUF and support those who have made it happen and continue
to do so.
 
What do I intend to do this year?
Get the UK ultimate website working for us & looking great.
Plan *and implement* some long term strategies such as womens
development and a resource library.
Support the board, be approachable and accessible to our community and
listen to you all.
 
I hope you all invest the couple of minutes it takes to vote, and wish
everyone the best of luck in the election.
 
Vote Harv
 
PS    one final goal this year - Win world clubs in Hawaii!

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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enough - a
full copy of my manifesto is at <a
href=3D"http://www.backspin.co.uk/uproar/manifesto.htm">http://www.backsp=
in.co.uk/uproar/manifesto.htm</a><span
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Why am I standing in the election?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>To represent the voice of clapham, =
</span></font></span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  class=3DGramE>London</span></st1:place></st1:City><span class=3DGramE> =
and GB.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>To offer my skills in web, branding, =
merchandising and
PR.</span></font></span> Not just as a consultant, but in actually =
making these
things work for us.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>To ensure the continuation of the foundations which have already =
been
laid by the BUF and support those who have made it happen and continue =
to do
so.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>What do I intend to do this year?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Get the =
</span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place>UK</st1:place></st1:country-=
region>
ultimate website working for us &amp; looking great.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Plan *and implement* some long term strategies such as <span
class=3DSpellE>womens</span> development and a resource =
library.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Support the board, be approachable and accessible to our =
community and
listen to you all.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>I hope you all invest the couple of minutes it takes to vote, =
and wish
everyone the best of luck in the election.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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UK Ultimate

As a (without portfolio) candidate I would like to offer my own views on this election.
The board of directors needs people with ideas and people that can put those ideas into practice. It also needs people who can offer different perspectives on the ideas and issues that are up for discussion. 
Several candidates have hinted at some of their ideas and they all seem to be excellent ones. However, if the board is simply made up of people with their own agendas, then there may be a limit to what can actually be agreed upon. I don't particularly have an agenda, I'm just offering an understanding of what Ultimate players in this country want from the sport. I think that the most important thing about running Ultimate in Britain is to create as many opportunities to play as possible and to remove any barriers. That principle has to be reflected in the development of our sport. 
Thank you for reading this far.

Ben Mitchell
Chevron Action Flash
(some people sometimes call me Hoooves)



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There is still space for a couple of teams in the 24 hour charity tournament 
that is being held in Hammersmith on the 1st and 2nd of December.  It is in 
aid of Shelter which is a national charity for the homeless.  The tournamnet 
format will be twelve teams playing a round robin with a final play-off game 
-> 12 games spread over the 24 hours.  The entry requirements are, instead of 
paying an entry fee, try and raise £200 (at least) for shelter.  

If you are interested please mail me as soon as possible so that I can send 
out sponsorship forms to you.

Charlie B-N (Bad Habits)

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INVITATION
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Are you looking for a team to play for in the TOUR in 2002?
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Have you stopped learning?
Do you want to learn faster?

We believe there are many players in the East Midlands who want approach the
tour seriously and who want the opportunity to play at a level where they
can reach their FULL potential. Therefore we would like to give you the
opportunity to come and train and be a part of Red.

The Red Open Training Session will be held in Leicester on Sunday 18th
November 2001. Yes that is a week away.

There will be NO SELECTION, on the day. If things go well we hope you will
want to attend our regular practice sessions. its your opportunity to meet
us; Our opportunity to meet you.  You may be SURPRISED!!


Come and learn how we play.
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Dont believe the hype
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TRIAL WITH RED ON SUNDAY 18TH NOVEMBER

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>RE: BUF AGM 2001 - MINUTES
>
>5.	ANY OTHER BUSINESS
>World Clubs 2002, Hawaii requirements: All nominated teams will be required
>to provide a non-refundable deposit of £750 to the association by November
15th. 
>This is to deter loss of UK places due to teams pulling out late. Any lost 
>deposits to be used to fund other WUCC 2002 attendees at the discretion of
the board.

Any further news on this? - the stated deadline is getting rather close...
Who's on the list of nominated teams? 
Where do we send the cheques, and who do we make them payable to?

Cheers
Silver Bear
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To all teams interested in going to Clubs in Hawaii next year:
As Roger has pointed out, the deadline set at the AGM for teams serious about going to Hawaii next year to pay their deposit is on Thursday.
This is the situation re places at present:
Open - offered 2 slots - accepted 2 and requested 2 more. Order: 1- Clapham, 2-Chevron, 3 - Druids, 4 - Sharks - teams who finished between these teams in the order of being offered slots have said they won't be able to take one.  
Women's - offered 3 slots, accepted 2.  Order: 1 - Bliss, 2 - Mavis
Mixed - offered 2 slots, requested 1 more.  Order: 1-Chevron (I have not heard anything from Cyrille/Wage about taking the slot so am assuming they are declining it), 2 - Strange Blue, have had responses from Little Shef and BAF with interest in taking a mixed slot if available.
Masters - offered 1 slot, requested 1 more.  Headrush and BAF have declared interest.

What I need is confirmation from these teams as to whether they are taking their slot or whether they are serious about taking a slot, should one be available to them. I also want to hear from any team that I've missed off this list - these teams are just the ones that replied initially.  
The WFDF deadline is 1 December, when we have to confirm our teams and the number of additional slots we can fill if available.
The whole point of the 15 Nov deadline set by the BUF was to make teams commit seriously.  Teams should know by now whether or not they are realistically going to be able to get a team together (bearing in mind the high cost of the tournament).

I will find out who the cheques should be made payable to, but its much more important for the teams to let me know asap whether they intend to take their slot.
Please can someone from each team reply to me by email ASAP - I will send this email to team contacts that I have at home but that won't be until tonight.  

Laura P
BUF

> >RE: BUF AGM 2001 - MINUTES
> >
> >5.	ANY OTHER BUSINESS
> >World Clubs 2002, Hawaii requirements: All nominated teams will be required
> >to provide a non-refundable deposit of £750 to the association by November
> 15th. 
> >This is to deter loss of UK places due to teams pulling out late. Any lost 
> >deposits to be used to fund other WUCC 2002 attendees at the discretion of
> the board.
> 
> Any further news on this? - the stated deadline is getting rather close...
> Who's on the list of nominated teams? 
> Where do we send the cheques, and who do we make them payable to?
> 
> Cheers
> Silver Bear
> CU#1
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[PLEASE REPLY DIRECT TO RAS: raaz@supanet.com ]

Dear britdisc [britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk] ...

Anyone on britdisc selling Ultimate Discs (175g)??

Looking to buy a dozen or more for my club for about £5 per disc.

Thanks 4 your help.

Ras

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Roger and other interested parties,

The cheque needs to be payable to the BUF and sent to:

BUF Treasurer
10 Buckingham Road
Brackley
Northants
NN13 7HH

This is because we are still getting UK Ultimate up and running and don't
have bank accounts etc set up yet.

>From recollection it should be (DoC and division reps please correct this
if I'm wrong)

Open
Clapham
Chevron AF

Mixed
Wage/Cyrille
Chevron AF?

Womens
We have 3 slots, but I don't think we have 3 teams who can go!  If you
represent a womens team and want to go I suggest you act quickly and make
it known that you want a slot.

Masters
Either Bristol or BAF, with Master co-ordinator (Wayne - who do I need a
cheque from?)

To avoid potential conflicts please provide a provisional team list as we
don't want to see names appearing in 2 divisions.  Remember the final say
is up to the Exec so 2 weakened teams from 1 club in different divisions
may not get to go in either if you aren't strong enough in both!  Remember
its going to be expensive and there are minimum number requirements from
WFDF, which equate to probably a minimum of 15 people squads (and that is
only just)

Ian Stebbing
Outgoing BUF Treasurer



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Subject:  Hawaii deposits


>RE: BUF AGM 2001 - MINUTES
>
>5.  ANY OTHER BUSINESS
>World Clubs 2002, Hawaii requirements: All nominated teams will be
required
>to provide a non-refundable deposit of £750 to the association by November
15th.
>This is to deter loss of UK places due to teams pulling out late. Any lost
>deposits to be used to fund other WUCC 2002 attendees at the discretion of
the board.

Any further news on this? - the stated deadline is getting rather close...
Who's on the list of nominated teams?
Where do we send the cheques, and who do we make them payable to?

Cheers
Silver Bear
CU#1

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Does this mean that the teams that are seriously interested in going,
but don't yet have a slot (e.g. Fluid Druids), also need to pay this
deposit by mid-November?

Wayne

Mon, 12 Nov 2001, by  <mailto:laurapearce@btinternet.com>;
 Subject: Hawaii deposits
>To all teams interested in going to Clubs in Hawaii next year:
>As Roger has pointed out, the deadline set at the AGM for teams serious about 
>going to Hawaii next year to pay their deposit is on Thursday.
>This is the situation re places at present:
>Open - offered 2 slots - accepted 2 and requested 2 more. Order: 1- Clapham, 
>2-Chevron, 3 - Druids, 4 - Sharks - teams who finished between these teams in 
>the order of being offered slots have said they won't be able to take one.  
>Women's - offered 3 slots, accepted 2.  Order: 1 - Bliss, 2 - Mavis
>Mixed - offered 2 slots, requested 1 more.  Order: 1-Chevron (I have not heard 
>anything from Cyrille/Wage about taking the slot so am assuming they are 
>declining it), 2 - Strange Blue, have had responses from Little Shef and BAF 
>with interest in taking a mixed slot if available.
>Masters - offered 1 slot, requested 1 more.  Headrush and BAF have declared 
>interest.
>
>What I need is confirmation from these teams as to whether they are taking their 
>slot or whether they are serious about taking a slot, should one be available to 
>them. I also want to hear from any team that I've missed off this list - these 
>teams are just the ones that replied initially.  
>The WFDF deadline is 1 December, when we have to confirm our teams and the 
>number of additional slots we can fill if available.
>The whole point of the 15 Nov deadline set by the BUF was to make teams commit 
>seriously.  Teams should know by now whether or not they are realistically going 
>to be able to get a team together (bearing in mind the high cost of the 
>tournament).
>
>I will find out who the cheques should be made payable to, but its much more 
>important for the teams to let me know asap whether they intend to take their 
>slot.
>Please can someone from each team reply to me by email ASAP - I will send this 
>email to team contacts that I have at home but that won't be until tonight.  
>
>Laura P
>BUF
>
>> >RE: BUF AGM 2001 - MINUTES
>> >
>> >5.  ANY OTHER BUSINESS
>> >World Clubs 2002, Hawaii requirements: All nominated teams will be required
>> >to provide a non-refundable deposit of £750 to the association by November
>> 15th. 
>> >This is to deter loss of UK places due to teams pulling out late. Any lost 
>> >deposits to be used to fund other WUCC 2002 attendees at the discretion of
>> the board.
>> 
>> Any further news on this? - the stated deadline is getting rather close...
>> Who's on the list of nominated teams? 
>> Where do we send the cheques, and who do we make them payable to?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Silver Bear
>> CU#1
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UK ULTIMATE DISC EVENTS DIARY 


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Contact UK Ultimate at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

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24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - NORTHERN STUDENT QUALIFIERS

Location: University of Leeds Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Anna Winter

Main Email: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk

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24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - W & SW STUDENT REGIONALS

Location: Cardiff University - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Wales and south West regional qualifiers, 24 team indoor tournament. Top 3 teams going through to nationals. Tournament to be the same place as last time but bigger.


Stuart Austin

2 Monthermer rd, Cathays, Cardiff, , CF24 4QW

Main Email: AustinSR@cardiff.ac.uk

Alternative Email: Stuart@austin.gs

Home Phone: 029 20256285

Work Phone: N/A

Mobile: N/A

Fax: N/A

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24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS

Location: LEEDS GRAMMAR SCHOOL - [Indoor Ultimate]


SPACES FOR 20 TEAMS
COST £95
CHEQUES PAYABLE TO LEEDS ULTIMATE 

SEND TO
LEEDS ULTIMATE
42 RICHMOND MOUNT
HEADINGLEY
LS6 1DF

LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, WEST YORKSHIRE, LS6 1DF

Main Email: asharma43@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

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25 NOVEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON WINTER LEAGUE: MATCHDAY 2

Location: Clapham Common - [Outdoor Ultimate]



The 2nd event of the London Winter League. There will be 3 or 4 more events in the series after Christmas - culminating in a bish-bash-bosh grand finale. Relegation and qualification after every event so any team can apply and play qualification games or sit on the waiting list! 



Roger Thomson

19 Clapham Mansions, Nightingale Lane, London , , SW4 9AQ

Main Email: roger.thomson@oyster.com

Home Phone: 020 8772 1986

Mobile: 07973 620845

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH STUDENT INDOOR REGIONALS

Location: The Arc, Glasgow Caledonian University. Glasgow - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Once again Scottish student regionals have come back to the sunny shores of glasgow. This will be a 16 team tournament with places allocated on a first come first served basis. To reserve a place send a cheque for £90 per team to the address below.

http://www.angelfire.com/games4/farflung


Philip Webb

Flat 1/4 , 3 Mingarry st, Glasgow, , 

Main Email: short_kiwi_guy@yahoo.com

Alternative Email: 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk

Home Phone: 0141 576 4139

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - MIDLANDS STUDENT QUALIFIERS

Location: Loughborough University - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Loughborough is the host for the Midlands Student Qualifiers for the second year running. Amazing facilities. 4 halls. Huge union party. Room for 32 teams. Ex - student division as well. Purple Haze, Jesters, Fish already interested. Anyone welcome.


http://www.uniservity.net/club_homepage.asp?clubid=995


Luke Smith

55 William St, Loughborough, Leics, , LE11 3BX

Main Email: L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01509 560121

Mobile: 07754 531706

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM FEMME FEST

Location: Clifton Campus, Nottingham - [Indoor Ultimate]


All Women and Femme Teams are invited to enter a Womens' competition.
Accomodation available, party on the Saturday Nite.
Cost is probably £75, Please contact asap if you feel you can enter a team or would like to pickup.
16 Teams places available
If we fill it, I can arrange a discount, so no messing around.
Support Us so we can Support You



http://pending


sam

62a Nottingham Road, Basford, Nottingham, , NG7 7AH

Main Email: shark@flyghtclub.com

Alternative Email: xxxx@flyghtclub.com

Mobile: 07866 336643

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ANOTHER 24 HOUR CHARITY TOURNAMENT

Location: Latymer Upper School, Hammersmith, London - [Indoor Ultimate]


Open for twelve teams playing twelve games each.  That gives each team 4 hours of indoor play spread over 24 hours.
The entry requirement is that each team raise at least £200 for charity.  Charity TBA - probably 'Shelter'.


Charlie Ben-Nathan

Main Email: chuckaway@aol.com

Alternative Email: cbn@latymer-upper.org

Home Phone: 020 8992 1996

Work Phone: 020 8741 1851

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - WINNER STAYS ON (INVITATIONAL)

Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate]


Invitational only

The concept is simple - Winner stays on! Want to win the tournament? Win the last game of the day.


Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

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02 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SE STUDENT REGIONALS

Location: Sportscentre, University of Sussex - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

SE student regionals
16 teams, two halls, music all day + food, party till 2.
£75 team.
preference to 1st teams until friday 9th nov
accomodation

http://www.mohawks.co.uk


matt 'juan' cutler

72 Washington Street, Brighton, E. Sussex, , BN2 9SR

Main Email: captain@mohawks.co.uk

Home Phone: 01273 697061

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08 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON SAVAGE 7

Location: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Date: Saturday December 8th
 
Description: The London Savage 7 will be a tournament such as the UK has never seen. An amazing venue, the challenge of a savage 7 tournament in December, and its proximity to central London all make for what promises to be the start of something special. The LS7 will be a one day tournament with 12 teams guaranteed a minimum of three games each. There will also be a mini guts tournament (5 players per side) open to those interested. There is no coed requirement. Spectators are welcomed and encouraged...its not too often you get to see ultimate played in a venue such as...
 
Venue: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre. This is a rare opportunity to play Ultimate in a 16,000 seat stadium with the last rounds under the lights. Men and women's changing rooms will be available with showers. For more information, check out www.crystalpalace.co.uk.
 
Schedule: Captains' meeting is at 8:30 AM sharp. The first round of pool play will begin at 9:00 AM sharp. The finals will start at 5:00 PM and there will be an awards ceremony in the Bar at 6:45 PM. The bar will close at 11:00 pm and there will be a late night venue recommendation in central London.
 
Teams: We ask that each team bring 7 playing members and one non-playing member if possible. We will have tournament helpers on the sidelines taking player stats during every game and we'd like the non-playing member to help them out with who is who. They will receive a tourney disc for helping out.
 
Registration: To register for this tournament email info@hammerage.com with your intent. The first 12 teams to send the registration fee via check will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament. Team registration is 165 pounds for the Ultimate tournament with guts and 140 pounds for teams who do not wish to take part in the mini guts tournament. Proceeds from the mini guts tournament will be donated to charity. These fees break down to 20 pounds per player for the Ultimate tournament and 5 pounds per player for the guts tournament. Make your check out to "Hammerage Ultimate Club" and send it via post to Ken Lambert, Ground Floor Flat, 58 Sinclair Road, London W14 0NH. 
 
Food: There is a Bar serving food and drinks within the stadium that will be open from noon until 11:00 PM. Teams will be provided with water and bananas.
 
Accommodation: There are 86 rooms in an accommodation block within the Sports Centre. These rooms are similar in price and amenities to a Travelodge. There will be players who choose to stay there on Friday night before the tourney to avoid the trip down on Saturday morning. To book a room, contact Crystal Palace at 02087767744.
 
Brought to you by Hammerage Ultimate, Regent's Park, London - www.hammerage.com
 

none


Ken Lambert

GFF 58 Sinclair Road, London, W14 0NH, , 

Main Email: info@hammerage.com

Mobile: 07900492202

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15 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SKUNKS CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT

Location: Southampton Uni - [Indoor Ultimate]





Andrew Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Alternative Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380678866

Work Phone: 01962815169

Mobile: 07786384009

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19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

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26 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS TOURNAMENT

Location: University of Warwick - [Indoor Ultimate]


Come and join us for another excellent Bears tournament in our clubs 25th year. We have space for 16 teams costing £95 per team. More information nearer the time. 


Mike 'JD' Dodd

Flat 23 Hurst Residence, University of Warwick, , , CV4 7AL

Main Email: esuqo@csv.warwick.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mikejdodd@yahoo.com

Mobile: 07855596639

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Hi all,

Please find details below of the first Tanzanian Ultimate Championships - 
contact Sol for more details on anthony.solomon@eoltz.com

1st Tanzanian Ultimate Championships

Saturday 24th November 2001

The Moshi Club, Moshi.

Most of us now expect a lot from a tournament.  Competitive ultimate, 
well-grassed pitches, experienced TDs, field-side massage, ambulance cover, 
insurance, refreshing tropical fruit beverages, and the peace of mind that 
comes with knowing that the possibility of African hunting dog attack is 
remote.  In Moshi on the 24th November, you'll get none of it.  Nearly every 
player will have less than three months experience.  Our surface has seen 
three days of rain in the last twelve months.  And there's a pack of hunting 
dogs living in the scrubland on the other side of the golf course.

What I can promise is one of the most spectacular backdrops ever in the 
history of ultimate (the snow-capped peak of Mt Kilimanjaro stares down over 
the tops of the trees at the north end of the field), a better-than-even 
chance of cloudless blue skies, and unlimited quantities of cold Safari 
Lager.  If Charlie Mead makes it, we might
even be able to tie him to a stake to distract the dogs.

Registration is just 2,500 Tanzanian shillings (about A$4.50), and will 
start at 9am.  Captains meeting is at 9.30; games start at 10.00.  A taxi 
should take you to the Moshi Club from the bus station in town for a 
thousand shillings or so.

You're all welcome.

sol

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Young male WLTM indoor ultimate team for good times at Leeds Open Indoor on
24/25 November and after more than just a quick huck.

Reply to:

Hedge
(YBK/NorthernRoses)

quoting ref. 'My nose is itchy'

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Okay, finaly we have had confirmation from the sports hall and so
everything is going ahead for the Skunks Christmas tournament which this
year is on the 15/16th December, here at Southampton Uni.

If you want to enter a team you NEED TO SEND ME MONEY QUICKLY. Seems
obvious but would think that i could already fill half the tournament if i
was going on 'people who want to play'! If you want to play send me money,
first come first serve, and that includes all the people that have already
e-mailed me.

This year cost will be 90 quid made payable to Andrew Feltham and sent to
338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, SO16 3BJ.

Any problems, let me know, if not, loko forward to seeing your money!

Trigger
Skunks



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Dear all,

Is anyone from around the southampton area driving up to the cardiff
qualifiers on the saturday morning (24th November)?  A lift would be much
appreciated, with payments in beer at the tournie, obviously.
Rich Abrams

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Hi all.

Over the past year or so, we've had a lot of people ask us whether we
had any of our black jedi hoodies for sale, and I'm now finally getting
round to printing a new batch, so I'd like to know how many I have to
get done.

If you don't remember what our hoodies look like, then you can take a
look at some artwork as of this evening:
<http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~scs0rrh/jediwear.html>
[at some point, it will hit our real site, but I want to get going on
this]

For now: basically they're quality black hoodies with 'Jedi' across the
front and the Yoda logo [as seen on our green shirts:
<http://www.leedsjedi.co.uk/photos/leedsindoorteam.jpg>] in white on the
back.
We are also doing a new range of hoodies available in black or burgundy, with
'Jedi' on the front as normal, and our new 'flick' logo [as seen on the
burgundy shirts debuted at Snout, and at Tours over the summer:
<http://www.leedsjedi.co.uk/photos/tour2team.jpg>]

Please tell me if you're interested in a hoodie.  They normally retail
at 20 pounds, but bulk orders will receive a discount.  If you're
willing to send money in advance, I will also consider doing different
sizes for you [we normally go for Large which is snug on a
tall/well-built guy, and baggy on your average female player]

Thanks to all those who've continued to ask us about them, and thanks in
advance to those who are interested now!
-- 
Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk	Tel: 07956002710
www.leedsjedi.co.uk

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Hey Richard, and all others who need a lift to a tournament.

Why not use the Block Stack Transport finding service. 

www.block-stack.co.uk

If you need a lift to a tournament or you are going to a tournament and
have some space in your car, use the site to get in touch.

There are also areas to offer accommodation and a very lively discussion
board where you can have your say about UK ultimate and the development
of the sport with out emailing the 700+ subscribers to Britdisc.

For those who are keen to know what my intentions are if I'm elected to
the board of directors, here is a brief summary.

1. Be part of a team of people helping to develop the online
communications network that supports UK Ultimate. Including Britdisc,
and UKUltimate.com

2. Promote the growth of the sport through the making and distribution
of videos and seeking a television audience. 

3. Encourage tournament organisers to promote tournaments to the local
public better, by preceding big tournaments with a well coordinated
publicity campaign and making tournaments should be more visitor
friendly, grandstands, programmes etc. 

4. I don't play for a top 16 team and probably never will. I can
represent the views of players outside the top clubs in the UK.

Lastly I hope you all use your vote, and look forward to working on, or
with, the new committee.

Cheers
Tom Styles
tom@block-stack.co.uk

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Dear all,

Is anyone from around the southampton area driving up to the cardiff
qualifiers on the saturday morning (24th November)?  A lift would be
much
appreciated, with payments in beer at the tournie, obviously.
Rich Abrams

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Hey BD,

Firstly, big thanks to everyone that came up to Edinburgh at the weekend for 
the Beginners Tournament - I really hope you enjoyed it and that we'll be able 
to tempt you North of the border again next year.

Secondly, I'd like to say a HUGE thanks to everyone that helped with the 
scoring and organisation, especially the Sneeekys contingent, who gave up a lot 
of their weekend, and those that were roped into it at the last minute (not 
that we wanted to take advantage of injured players!)

The final placings were:

1 - Purple Haze (champagne bucket & champagne)
2 - OW!         (wine rack & wine)
3 - Drugstore Cowboys
4 - Fingers 6
5 - Flatball Project 'Pirate Kings'
6 - UCD
7 - Boogie Knights
8 - Ro-Sham-Bo 2
9 - Phat 'Ed's  (mini champagne bucket & bottle)
10 - Jedi 1
11 - Northern Lights
12 - The Fish
13 - Yorkie Bar Kids
14 - UWE
15 - Positive Mojo
16 - Jedi 2
17 - Hulltimate  (wine gums)
18 - Jesters
19 - Posh Disc
20 - Strange Blue
21 - Flaming Monkeys
22 - Mohawks
23 - Stirling Blaze
24 - RSB 3
25 - Flatball Project 'The Misfits' and Shooting Stars  (Framed(!!) ice tongs)
27 - Bradford Disciples
28 - RSB 1
29 - Far Flung 1
30 - Mute Animal Unit
31.5 - Far Flung 2 & Mwnci See   (The sliced lemons and cocktail sticks of 
shame)

To be honest I didn't get to watch much of the final (either team want to set 
the story straight?), so I can't tell you much about it other than that the 
crowd seemed to enjoy it and the final score was Purple Haze 8 - OW! 6 

Hat:   Nicole from Mohawks   (shot glass & minature)

Party: Far Flung           (beer)

Sharking: ('Jaws' bottle opener)   Originally went to Rocky from UCD 
and "topless girl", but since one wasn't there and the other wouldn't own up, 
sharking went to RSB's very own Alexis - for effort............although rumours 
abound that there was some success involved.  Anyone like to fill us in?

Spirit: Flatball Project ' Misfits'   (cocktail shaker & spirit)

3 pint challenge:  (chocolate liquers)
Men's:   Preston (Stirling) & Dave (Positive Mojo) in 15.25 s
Women's: Beth & Simone (Far Flung) in 38.75 s
co-ed  : Laura & Rob (RSB) in 26.23 s

The party went off with traditional nakedness, not-so traditional crowd-surfing 
and a DJ who, when asked what on Earth he thought he was doing (after an 
amazing triplet of Whigfield'd 'Saturday Night', the Macarena and Aqua's 'Dr. 
Jones') replied "To me, this IS pop".  At least they let us stay 'til 3am this 
time.


Lost property:

Navy 'Reebok' Hoody
Plain navy T-shirt
Navy 'fuct' zip-up hoody with 'HARLEM' across the front
Navy 'River Island' Fleece
Blue 'Animal' baseball cap
Navy 'Burton' shirt
Knee length black 'M&S' shorts
Blue & Black 'Nike' water bottle
Mute Shirt - Hazza
Sleeveless black 'Calvin Klein' t-shirt

Discs:  
Hat XII Zodiac - Melbourne 2000
UCD practice disc
UWE - Alistair Bradley
DSC - Slack
YBK - Kieran
White disc, red chinese style writing - 27th Jan 2001
Positive Mojo game disc

Let me know if you want any of it back.  If not, I'm sorted for the rest of the 
season!

Right that's about it from me, who'll be glad to hear.

See you next year,

Lindsay

_____________________________________________________
Lindsay Cuthbertson
President, Edinburgh University Ultimate Frisbee Club

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>To be honest I didn't get to watch much of the final (either team >want to set the story straight?), so I can't tell you much about it >other than that the crowd seemed to enjoy it and the final score was >Purple Haze 8 - OW! 6 
>

As captain of the losing team I will try to 'graciously' set the story great.

The final was played in the greatest atmosphere I have ever experienced at any tournament. Complete with Mexican wave, and 'We Will Rock You' style stomping and clapping. 

The first few points were traded with strong D being played by both teams, and OW! crept out to a 3-2 lead. It was then that Purple Haze's determination and superior fitness started to show. Combined with a deteriation of OW!'s experienced players play (including me getting stalled out on my own endzone line, and then turning my back on the disc and letting the score go straight past my head!!!) this allowed Purple Haze to score 6 in a row.

By then Purple Haze had completely managed to shut down OW!'s long game, and so they settled back into working the disc up the pitch. During the dying minutes OW! fought hard and managed to come back with 3 unanswered points, but time ran out and left Purple Haze victors, at 8-6. And by the end of it, I think at least some of the crowd were cheering for OW! ?

So once again, congratulations to Purple Haze, for a well played final, and well won tournament.

But much more importantly, well done to Lindsay, and all the Edinburgh team for a fantasticly hosted tournament. I really look forward to returning next year.

Crispy
OW!


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If you received the UKU Diary update, you may have noticed that dates for 
the Femme Fest are still listed as 1/2nd Dec.

This is not correct.

Due to Student Regionals & preferences the date for the Tournament is now

8/9 December 2001

and will be held at:
Clifton Campus Sports Hall
Nottingham

Please send cheques to book your team in asap.

Payable to FLYGHTCLUB
post to 
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Subject: Northern Winter League, Sunday 18th November
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:31:28 -0000
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The first Northern Winter League event will take place this SUNDAY, the 18th November at Moortown Rugby Club, Leeds. 
We'll aim to make a start at about 10am, so come along for 9.30am so that we can sort the teams out and some kind of format! At the moment we have about four or five teams. Any other teams or individuals are welcome. Let me know if you're coming.
Directions are below.

Ben
(Chevron)
b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk
home phone number: 0113 274 9097

Directions:
>From the South (M1)
As the M1 turns into the M621, take the exit for A61 Harrogate. Follow this through/past Leeds city centre until you reach the Ring Road A6120. This is at the Moortown Roundabout. 
Turn left on to the Ring Road A6120. Continue on this until you see Sainsbury's forward and to the right. Turn Right at the Roundabout just before Sainsbury's. Then see below

>From the West (M62)
Take Junction 27 of the M62 to get onto the M621. Take the Junction just after Elland Road stadium (that's Leeds United). This junction is signposted towards Headingley Stadium. At the Roundabout off the sliproad turn left and follow the dual carriageway until you reach a roundabout. Take the third exit (straight on). This takes you to the A58. Follow this until you can turn left onto the A61(Harrogate). Follow A61 until you reach the Ring Road A6120. This is at the Moortown Roundabout. Turn left onto the Ring Road. Continue on this until you see Sainsbury's forward and to the right. Turn Right at the Roundabout just before Sainsbury's. Then see below

>From the North (A1) 
Take the A58 turning at Boston Spa/Wetherby. Follow this towards Leeds City centre until you reach the Ring Road A6120. This is at the Moortown Roundabout. Turn Right here onto the Ring Road A6120. Follow the Ring Road for about 4 miles until you see Sainsbury's forward and to the right. Turn Right at the Roundabout just before Sainsbury's. Then see below.

>From the East (M62)
Turn off Junction 29 of the M62, and at the Roundabout turn right onto the M1 (Leeds). Take the junction for the A61 (Harrogate). Follow this through/past Leeds city centre until you reach the Ring Road A6120. This is at the Moortown Roundabout. Turn left on to the Ring Road A6120. Continue on this until you see Sainsbury's forward and to the right. Turn Right at the Roundabout just before Sainsbury's.

>From the Sainsbury's Roundabout:
This is King Lane heading into Alwoodley. 
Follow this for about half a mile. At a parade of shops turn right into The Avenue. Take the fourth turning on the right (Far Moss) and follow this until you see the Rugby posts. This is Moortown Rugby Club.

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Leeds Indoors is now full - For full details click below.

http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/hk7's/

The schedule will be put on this site above on Monday 19th November.  All
floor space accomodation is full - so you need to book B&B's as early as
possible.

One last thing the party on Saturday is planned to move to a club on Sat
night and there is a Dress code - no jeans/trainers/t-shirts - any other
details you need that you can't get of the site let me know - but I reckon
it's all there.

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:26:30 -0500
From: "Helen Myers" <Helen.Myers@us.taylorwoodrow.com>
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It's that time of year again! Janus Jubilee, The Bay Area's longest
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	I'd also like to chip in and thank Lyndsay and those who helped
organise the Edinburgh Beginners. It was an amazing experience, a stunning
venue (we had pretty much the whole of meadowbank for two days, give or take
a hall), some teams had 12 or so beginners playing. The old rules were still
in play (one experienced player per side, who could not score and had to
wear a silly hat) and seemed to work well. 

	The hat thing was a legacy of Ben Rainbow (for those of you who can
remember), who turned up with his new team Fingers 6 (later to become
Chevvy, how 'bout that..) at the first beginners and the most outrageous
Jamiroquai- type hat I've ever seen. It kinda went on from there..

	The party was awesome - exactly what a good party should be.

	The final was electric - just as crispy said. I cannot remember any
final, either watching or playing, when the crowd has broken into "we will
rock you" complete with the stamp-stamp-clap. It was quite something, and I
know the Ow! guys really took something from it (in fact I was speaking with
one of the Ow beginners before the final, asking him how he felt and he said
" I'm scared s***less" (bless 'im), after it he was like "I feel really
really good". He's hooked.)

	The other amazing this was the standard of beginners coming through.
There were quite a few teams there with tremedous new talent - Purple Haze
(a few future GB players here methinks - congrats on doing the 'double'
guys), Jedi, St Andrews (including a beginner who pulled out one of the best
layout D's I've seen indoors - fully horizontal at chest height!!), Boogie
Knights (from Liverpool Uni), Slipdisc (?). Looking at the standard here I
think that if the Uni guys can keep that level of interest, it's going the
be a brilliant year for student ultimate. Which will have a knock on effect
for the rest of us in about 3 years time.

	So to Lyndsay and all those who helped, a great big thank you from
me, from the Ow! players and on behalf of everyone who road tripped and had
an absolute blast!. As a player it was one of the smoothest- run tournaments
and an absolute joy to participate in. Lyndsay, I know you worked your socks
off for this, thank you and congratulations. You can look back in the
knowledge that 350 people had an absolute blast thanks to you, and that some
of them will continue playing Ultimate because of what you accomplished.

	Paul, teamShark (and one- off coach for OW! at the 10th Edinburgh
Beginners)
 

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From: "Mike Dodd" <esuqo@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Hello all,
             I'm afraid that the Warwick tournament (27/28th Jan) is all =
ready full up. Those teams in are: Angels, Block-Stack, Bandits, BAF, =
Haze, Kamaya Maya, Slip-Disc, Skunks, Space Monkeys, Venom, WAS and =
Whiplash.
    Could all those who haven't sent me cheques yet (I'm looking at you =
Ali) do so asap. It's =A395 payable to U.W.S.U and sent to me at 23F =
Hurst Flats, Uni of Warwick, CV4 7AL. Include contact details.
    Sorry to all other teams who wanted to come but with only one hall, =
space is tight.

Take care and I'll see you on a pitch somewhere soon,

JD=20
Bears

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haven't sent=20
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Ok - I know its a long shot but just wondering if there's any Ultimate
players in the Inverness/Highland area who would be interesting in trying to
get a team together - used to play for Aberdeen but since moving even
further north am having serious withdrawals! If you can help - please give
us a shout...

Cheers
Bess

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From: "Mitchell, Ben            [LBS]" <B.Mitchell@lmu.ac.uk>
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Just to give everyone a bit more of a lie-in, the start time for Sunday has been put back an hour. So if you're coming, please aim to be there for 10.30am, looking to make an 11am start. If you know someone that's coming and may not see this message, please pass it on.
By the way, thanks to all those team representatives I've been in contact with for getting people to come and letting me know their plans.

Ben
Chevron

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Subject: FAO Boogie Knights and Flaming Monkeys
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Sorry to all those that this doesn't concern (Press delete now) but I 
have to get in contact with these two teams urgently.

Boogie Knights and Flaming Monkeys, 

You now have until Monday 6pm to tell me that you are definitely 
coming to the Northern Student Indoor Qualifiers. If you are still 
wanting to come then I need to receive your cheques by 
Wednesday at the absolute latest. At the moment you are holding 
up other teams who want to know if their second teams have a 
place.

This is the final warning before I give your places to someone else!

Thanks,

Anna.


















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The deadline for receipt of ballot papers was close of Friday
16/11/2001.

The results are as follows:


Valid ballot papers received: 162
Spoilt ballot papers received:  2

Valid Votes received:   1747

President:
        Ben Ravilious   153     R.O.N.   7      abst    2

Secretary:
        Laura Pearce    155     R.O.N.   5      abst    2

Treasurer:
        Wayne Davey     156     R.O.N.   2      abst    4

Director of Competitions:
        Simon Weeks     143     R.O.N.  16      abst    3

Without Portfolio:
        Chris Hughes    118
        Pete Harvey     109
        Anna Winter     107
        Barry O'Kane    106
        Adam Batchelor  105
        Kev Lowe        101
        Paul Ruff        87

Congratulations to all of the above in their election to the Board of
Directors of UK Ultimate.

        Ian Stebbing     81
        Tom Styles       79
        Rob Mitchell     66
        Ben Mitchell     65

        Laura Pearce     31
        Ben Ravilious    19
        Wayne Davey      19
        Simon Weeks      17

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Wayne Retter

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Dear All,

Many thanks the following people:-

Wayne Retter - for taking on the task of counting the votes.

All the candidates who stood for directorships - I very much hope there will
be some sort of role available in the organisation for everyone who showed
this amount of enthusiasm.

All of you who voted - you made this the first proper election we've had in
a long time.

Our first task as directors will be to sort out who is responsible for what
and I can see that taking a few days to happen so please bear with us. I am
hoping that we can get a provisional events diary for 2002 published in the
next couple of weeks so that players are able to plan their holidays, etc.

Once these and other essential things are sorted we can then get the
formation of the players association under way.

Looking forward to it.

Ben

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From: "Wayne Retter" <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
To: "BritDisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Subject: UK Ultimate Election Results


> The deadline for receipt of ballot papers was close of Friday
> 16/11/2001.
>
> The results are as follows:
>
>
> Valid ballot papers received: 162
> Spoilt ballot papers received:  2
>
> Valid Votes received:   1747
>
> President:
>         Ben Ravilious   153     R.O.N.   7      abst    2
>
> Secretary:
>         Laura Pearce    155     R.O.N.   5      abst    2
>
> Treasurer:
>         Wayne Davey     156     R.O.N.   2      abst    4
>
> Director of Competitions:
>         Simon Weeks     143     R.O.N.  16      abst    3
>
> Without Portfolio:
>         Chris Hughes    118
>         Pete Harvey     109
>         Anna Winter     107
>         Barry O'Kane    106
>         Adam Batchelor  105
>         Kev Lowe        101
>         Paul Ruff        87
>
> Congratulations to all of the above in their election to the Board of
> Directors of UK Ultimate.
>
>         Ian Stebbing     81
>         Tom Styles       79
>         Rob Mitchell     66
>         Ben Mitchell     65
>
>         Laura Pearce     31
>         Ben Ravilious    19
>         Wayne Davey      19
>         Simon Weeks      17
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Wayne Retter
>
>


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From: Arun Sharma <arun.sharma@highway-insurance.co.uk>
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[attachments not supported by britdisc - check out the website
instead]

 <<LI2001SCHEDULE.xls>> 	 <<SATBARMAPLEEDSINDOORS.xls>> 

http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/hk7's/ 

Find above copy of Schedule for both day and web site for all details
re
accomodation, directions, party and team list.

Any probs let me know - well I'd rather you didn't and worked them out
for
yourself!!

Arun


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Hi there,

Quick question...

What are the best options for getting cheap ultrastar
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Schedule not on Website 

Morning Teams		Afternoon Teams
BAF			FISSION	  
ODD JOB		MR  MEN
MMJ			FLIGHT CLUB
BEARS II		FAR FLUNG
STAFFS UNI		YBK 2
MHBANDITS		WYWLAS
BEARS I		SPACE MONKEYS
ANGELS		YBK 1
PASSIVE PETER 	JAMMIE BODGERS	
CHRIS			PICK UP

If you want and copy of the schedule mail me.  Only one mail per team
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Schedule now on web site - if you need any details contact rik I'm out of
office now for rest of week - see you all Saturday!!!

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UK ULTIMATE DISC EVENTS DIARY 


See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates.

Contact UK Ultimate at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/

____________________________________________________________


24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS

Location: LEEDS GRAMMAR SCHOOL - [Indoor Ultimate]


SPACES FOR 20 TEAMS
COST £95
CHEQUES PAYABLE TO LEEDS ULTIMATE 

SEND TO
LEEDS ULTIMATE
42 RICHMOND MOUNT
HEADINGLEY
LS6 1DF

LEEDS ULTIMATE

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, WEST YORKSHIRE, LS6 1DF

Main Email: asharma43@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 0113 2749097

____________________________________________________________


24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - NORTHERN STUDENT QUALIFIERS

Location: University of Leeds Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Anna Winter

Main Email: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk

____________________________________________________________


24 NOVEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - W & SW STUDENT REGIONALS

Location: Cardiff University - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Wales and south West regional qualifiers, 24 team indoor tournament. Top 3 teams going through to nationals. Tournament to be the same place as last time but bigger.


Stuart Austin

2 Monthermer rd, Cathays, Cardiff, , CF24 4QW

Main Email: AustinSR@cardiff.ac.uk

Alternative Email: Stuart@austin.gs

Home Phone: 029 20256285

Work Phone: N/A

Mobile: N/A

Fax: N/A

____________________________________________________________


25 NOVEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON WINTER LEAGUE: MATCHDAY 2

Location: Clapham Common - [Outdoor Ultimate]



The 2nd event of the London Winter League. There will be 3 or 4 more events in the series after Christmas - culminating in a bish-bash-bosh grand finale. Relegation and qualification after every event so any team can apply and play qualification games or sit on the waiting list! 



Roger Thomson

19 Clapham Mansions, Nightingale Lane, London , , SW4 9AQ

Main Email: roger.thomson@oyster.com

Home Phone: 020 8772 1986

Mobile: 07973 620845

____________________________________________________________


01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - MIDLANDS STUDENT QUALIFIERS

Location: Loughborough University - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Loughborough is the host for the Midlands Student Qualifiers for the second year running. Amazing facilities. 4 halls. Huge union party. Room for 32 teams. Ex - student division as well. Purple Haze, Jesters, Fish already interested. Anyone welcome.


http://www.uniservity.net/club_homepage.asp?clubid=995


Luke Smith

55 William St, Loughborough, Leics, , LE11 3BX

Main Email: L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01509 560121

Mobile: 07754 531706

____________________________________________________________


01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH STUDENT INDOOR REGIONALS

Location: The Arc, Glasgow Caledonian University. Glasgow - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Once again Scottish student regionals have come back to the sunny shores of glasgow. This will be a 16 team tournament with places allocated on a first come first served basis. To reserve a place send a cheque for £90 per team to the address below.

http://www.angelfire.com/games4/farflung


Philip Webb

Flat 1/4 , 3 Mingarry st, Glasgow, , 

Main Email: short_kiwi_guy@yahoo.com

Alternative Email: 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk

Home Phone: 0141 576 4139

____________________________________________________________


01 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - WINNER STAYS ON (INVITATIONAL)

Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate]


Invitational only

The concept is simple - Winner stays on! Want to win the tournament? Win the last game of the day.


Chris Hughes

Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com

Home Phone: 01452 380529

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01 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ANOTHER 24 HOUR CHARITY TOURNAMENT

Location: Latymer Upper School, Hammersmith, London - [Indoor Ultimate]


Open for twelve teams playing twelve games each.  That gives each team 4 hours of indoor play spread over 24 hours.
The entry requirement is that each team raise at least £200 for charity.  Charity TBA - probably 'Shelter'.


Charlie Ben-Nathan

Main Email: chuckaway@aol.com

Alternative Email: cbn@latymer-upper.org

Home Phone: 020 8992 1996

Work Phone: 020 8741 1851

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02 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SE STUDENT REGIONALS

Location: Sportscentre, University of Sussex - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

SE student regionals
16 teams, two halls, music all day + food, party till 2.
£75 team.
preference to 1st teams until friday 9th nov
accomodation

http://www.mohawks.co.uk


matt 'juan' cutler

72 Washington Street, Brighton, E. Sussex, , BN2 9SR

Main Email: captain@mohawks.co.uk

Home Phone: 01273 697061

____________________________________________________________


08 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - LONDON SAVAGE 7

Location: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Date: Saturday December 8th
 
Description: The London Savage 7 will be a tournament such as the UK has never seen. An amazing venue, the challenge of a savage 7 tournament in December, and its proximity to central London all make for what promises to be the start of something special. The LS7 will be a one day tournament with 12 teams guaranteed a minimum of three games each. There will also be a mini guts tournament (5 players per side) open to those interested. There is no coed requirement. Spectators are welcomed and encouraged...its not too often you get to see ultimate played in a venue such as...
 
Venue: Crystal Palace National Sports Centre. This is a rare opportunity to play Ultimate in a 16,000 seat stadium with the last rounds under the lights. Men and women's changing rooms will be available with showers. For more information, check out www.crystalpalace.co.uk.
 
Schedule: Captains' meeting is at 8:30 AM sharp. The first round of pool play will begin at 9:00 AM sharp. The finals will start at 5:00 PM and there will be an awards ceremony in the Bar at 6:45 PM. The bar will close at 11:00 pm and there will be a late night venue recommendation in central London.
 
Teams: We ask that each team bring 7 playing members and one non-playing member if possible. We will have tournament helpers on the sidelines taking player stats during every game and we'd like the non-playing member to help them out with who is who. They will receive a tourney disc for helping out.
 
Registration: To register for this tournament email info@hammerage.com with your intent. The first 12 teams to send the registration fee via check will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament. Team registration is 165 pounds for the Ultimate tournament with guts and 140 pounds for teams who do not wish to take part in the mini guts tournament. Proceeds from the mini guts tournament will be donated to charity. These fees break down to 20 pounds per player for the Ultimate tournament and 5 pounds per player for the guts tournament. Make your check out to "Hammerage Ultimate Club" and send it via post to Ken Lambert, Ground Floor Flat, 58 Sinclair Road, London W14 0NH. 
 
Food: There is a Bar serving food and drinks within the stadium that will be open from noon until 11:00 PM. Teams will be provided with water and bananas.
 
Accommodation: There are 86 rooms in an accommodation block within the Sports Centre. These rooms are similar in price and amenities to a Travelodge. There will be players who choose to stay there on Friday night before the tourney to avoid the trip down on Saturday morning. To book a room, contact Crystal Palace at 02087767744.
 
Brought to you by Hammerage Ultimate, Regent's Park, London - www.hammerage.com
 

none


Ken Lambert

GFF 58 Sinclair Road, London, W14 0NH, , 

Main Email: info@hammerage.com

Mobile: 07900492202

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08 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - NOTTINGHAM FEMME FEST

Location: Clifton Campus, Nottingham - [Indoor Ultimate]


All Women and Femme Teams are invited to enter a Womens' competition.
Accomodation available, party on the Saturday Nite.
Cost is probably £75, Please contact asap if you feel you can enter a team or would like to pickup.
16 Teams places available
If we fill it, I can arrange a discount, so no messing around.
Support Us so we can Support You




http://pending


sam

62a Nottingham Road, Basford, Nottingham, , NG7 7AH

Main Email: shark@flyghtclub.com

Alternative Email: xxxx@flyghtclub.com

Mobile: 07866 336643

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09 DECEMBER 2001 (1 DAYS) - NORTHERN UNIVERSITIES LEAGUE

Location: Hull University Sports center - [Indoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Invited teams only - Hulltimate, Durham, YBK, Phat'Eds.


Robbie Lucas

Main Email: R.G.Lucas@eng.hull.ac.uk

Alternative Email: discorob21@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01482 857811

Mobile: 07816 342420

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15 DECEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SKUNKS CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT

Location: Southampton Uni - [Indoor Ultimate]





Andrew Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Alternative Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Home Phone: 02380678866

Work Phone: 01962815169

Mobile: 07786384009

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19 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Location: Newport Centre, Newport, S. Wales - [Indoor Ultimate]


After an absence from the calendar in 2001, 2002 sees the return of the Fluid Druids' Indoor Ultimate tournament.


http://www.fluiddruids.com/


Fluid Druids

Main Email: contact@fluiddruids.com

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19 JANUARY 2002 (1 DAYS) - MAGIC CIRCLE SCOTTISH INVITATIONAL 2

Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate]


Magic Circle is back!
The one-day indoor event for Scottish based teams (invite only).

Space for 12 teams.

See website below for further details.


http://www.geocities.com/magiccircle2


Andy Mallarkey

Main Email: strijka@yahoo.com

Mobile: 07867 583899

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26 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS TOURNAMENT

Location: University of Warwick - [Indoor Ultimate]


Come and join us for another excellent Bears tournament in our clubs 25th year. We have space for 16 teams costing £95 per team. More information nearer the time. 


Mike 'JD' Dodd

Flat 23 Hurst Residence, University of Warwick, , , CV4 7AL

Main Email: esuqo@csv.warwick.ac.uk

Alternative Email: mikejdodd@yahoo.com

Mobile: 07855596639

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Please note: The Warwick Indoor tournament is now full.


> 
> 26 JANUARY 2002 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK BEARS TOURNAMENT
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Sorry to all the blokes out there, but..

Unfortunately the squaws are unable to get a team
together for women's, but i have 3 very enthusiastic
players who want to go to the femme fest. 2 have been
playing a while, and one beginner.

If people have space on their team, could you please
e-mail me so i can let them know

cheers

nicole
mohawks

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Me again...

Errr, at edinburgh beginners, we lost a cream(ish)
mohawks t-shirt with "lucifer" written on the back

it wasn't in the lost property list that lindsay sent
out, so i was wondering, what with the amount of
t-shirts that were around and stuff, whether anyone
picked it up by accident

also, i lost my tequila boom-boom red rimini top in
the club on saturday night, i know it's a long shot
but if anyone found it, can i have it back pleeease

right, if anyone knows anything can they e-mail me

tah

nicole
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Hi Britdisc

I'm looking to pick up for a team playing in this weekends winter league in 
London.

Please contact me if you have space on

dworman@macmillan.org.uk -

Many thanks
Diana Worman

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Hope you dont get this twice.

So far the teams booked into the Flyin' Femme Fest are
Strange Blue
Bears
Skunks
No Frills
Mythago
Jesters
Flyghtclub
El Nino
Daffodils
Whip-ma-Whop-ma
The Addicts

Teams that have shown interest but have not booked in yet
Mavis
Janet Hawes
Red
Fierce
Mwnci See
Fish 
Tiffany
Angelic Squaws
Scots
FlyghtClub 2
Fierce 2


as you can see this is  possibly 22 teams, if you have not booked yet,
please do so asap.  or mail me to say you are sure you cannot make it.

there is a short window of opportunity to hire extra hall space for the w.e
so we can include all the teams willing (should we get all 20 or all 22,
which is doubtful, but we live in hope)

The Deadline is set. November 30th (please include a Birthday card), please
do it sooner than later, i'm gonna have an anurism...

Please ignore this mail if you sent your cheque yesterday.
Thanks

Sam

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I have the possibility of running an Indoor tournament...

date:     05 + 06 Jan 2002
location: Crowthorne, Surrey (check a map! between M4 J10 and  M3 J4)
size:     12 teams (maybe 16?)

cost:     approx £90.00

chances of accommodation, or an organised party, are slim.

Is your team SERIOUSLY interested?
Drop me a line, if so, preferably TODAY!

Regards
Wayne Retter

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From: Andrew Feltham <af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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Okay, please stop sending me money. The tournament is now very
full. Appologies to those teams that have asked for confirmation of entry
but i haven't had too much time. 

Complete team listings will go out on monday after i have explored the
possibility of a 24 team tournament rather than 20 ( i already have 25
teams money )

Thanks

trigger
Skunks



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Announcing Mix and Mingle 2002.

This is a CoEd indoor tournament taking place on the 9th and 10th of 
February 2002 in the fair city of Hull.

The tournament will feature a top party, lots of spirit and maybe a 
special celebrity to hand out the prizes.

A lot of teams are already interested, so if you fancy it or want 
more details, get in touch with myself or Jill at the following 
addresses:
   
   Jill - vanderkitty@hotmail.com
   Mark - mpf_consulting@hotmail.com


Here are a few facts to wet your appetites:-

Hull – Famous for:
The longest (almost) single span suspension bridge in the world (it 
goes nowhere!)
  Europe's highest teenage pregnancy rates (easy party-goers)
  England's largest city not to have a Premiership football team
  The home to not one but now the second trial of Leeds United 
Footballers
  A Welsh, incompetent, heavyweight pugilist Deputy Prime Minister,
Fish, inbreeding and unemployment.

Anyway, thanks for your time,

Mark

Hulltimate,
Un poco loco,
JB7

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MATCHDAY 2 is this Sunday on Clapham Common.
Congratulations to Sublime for coming second at last weekend's qualification
event and 'respect' for travelling up to London two weekends on the trot to
play the outdoor version of our beloved game. Hammerage won the event and
take 7th seed as a result - they're now gunning for Fever's 6th place to get
revenge for Fever knocking them into the qualifiers...

Seeding order is as finishing order last time (including qualifier): Clapham
1, Clapham 2, Druids, Sharks, Smash & Grab, Fever, Hammerage, Sublime. Only
the team that finishes 8th will be relegated to Division 2 for Matchday 3 on
13/1. Goal difference WILL be added to the points tally as last time. We're
playing 8 team knockout this time around, but will revert to pools next
time.

I think we can start at 10.30 and easily finish in light:
10.00am Captain's meeting.
10.30am 1st round: Clapham 1/Sublime, Clapham 2/Hammerage, Druids/Fever,
Sharks/Smash & Grab. Games to 15. 1 hour to cap. 
12.00am 2nd round: 1v4, 2v3, 5v8, 6v7. Games to 17. 1 hour 15 mins to cap.
13.45pm Finals round: 1v2, 3v4, 5v6, 7v8. Games to 19. 1 hour 30 mins to
cap.
15.30pm Adjourn to the George for muchos beer and Man U vs Arsenal.

Bring cones please the usual coneheads! It'll be cold probably and might
rain so bring bin liners for your kit and warm playing gear, tights and
extra socks if you want to join Si Hill's ballet chorus.

MATCHDAY 3 is set for Sunday 13th January and yes, there will be 2
Divisions!!!
CloudThings, Discdoctors and BadHabits will contest Division 2 somewhere in
North London with the relegated team from Matchday 2 Division 1. The winning
team will be promoted to Division 1 for Matchday 4 sometime in February.
This event can handle some more teams if anyone else wants to get involved,
just mail me at this address. We'd love this to grow into a competition with
2 8-team Divisions by next winter but need your support.

HAT TOURNAMENT! For those not on a Winter League team this Sunday, that
wonderful cheeky chappy Mungo of BadHabits is running a hat tournament in
London. Anyone interested will need to turn up around 10:45. Bring dark and
light shirts. Location is the south side of hyde park beside South Carriage
Drive. Nearest tube Knightsbridge, walk up to the edge of Hyde Park (under
Bowater House) and turn left along the edge of the park. Pitches will be
somewhere between a Pony enclosure and the tennis courts near the Albert
memorial. Any queries? Email me at mungo.sheppard@camden.gov.uk during
working hours or call me on 07968 435 380 at any time. 

Now that the globe has sufficiently warmed, the UK is an all year outdoor
Ultimate kind of place! WAHEY!

Results will follow on Monday.
Your intrepid reporter and somewhat confused tournament director,
Silver Bear

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FAO Mixed Team representatives and players:-

In a bid to clear up the confusion regarding the UK entries into the Mixed
division at Hawaii I would like some official response from all the teams
and players who have an interest in attending.

In particular, the following teams either expressed interest or stated
actual commitment to go to Hawaii......

(in no particular order)

Chevron Action Flash
Strange Blue
Blue Arse Flies
Little Shef


I would therefore like those teams to provide me (private email to this
address please) with the following:-

1. A declaration of your intention to attend (i.e. YES or NO)

2. A summary of any grievances/issues you may have with other teams plans to
attend.

3. For those who did not pay the £750 deposit but intend to go, an
explanation as to why the deposit has not been paid.

4. (again for those who intend to go) A preliminary roster of all those
players who will be in your team.

If anyone else has anything to add then please also feel free to email me.

As per the new constitution of UK Ultimate, myself and the other directors
who do NOT have any interest in the mixed division at Hawaii will consider
your responses and announce any findings, rulings, etc.

DEADLINE FOR PRIVATE RESPONSES TO THIS EMAIL IS TUESDAY 27TH NOVEMBER.

Thanks

Ben Ravilious
President
UK Ultimate

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From: "Andrew Feltham" <af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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Sorry for the delay, but the following is now the complete list of teams
entered for the Skunks Xmas Tournament.

1. Skunks 1
2. Skunks 2
3. Angles
4. Mute Animal Unit
5. Skumy
6. Fission
7. Mr Men
8. Yo Mama
9. Sublime 1
10. Sublime 2
11. Becca's Humphries Team
12. BAF 1
13. BAF 2
14. Furious 5
15. Smash 'n Grab
16. Simpsons
17. SNOAP
18. NIghtfever
19. Whiplash
20. The Airforce
21. Hammerage
22. Surrey
23. Mythago
24. either UTI or Poughkeepsie
    ( can dave trovell and graham fletcher please get in touch please )
--------------------------------------------
Reserves
25. The other of the teams above
26. Mohawks

Thanks for the huge support for the tournament. Thank you for all the teams
that have sent me contact details but can ALL teams please e-mail them to me
so that i dont loose them!

Any problems, please let me know.

Trigger

P.S. Advance warning to the above teams, accomodation will be very limited

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Dear All,

I have the option to hold an indoor student co-ed tournament in 
Leeds on March 23/24 2002.

What I need to know is how many teams would be interested in 
coming to this considering that is quite late to be holding an indoor 
tournament. 

Unfortunately it can't be an open event because it is using 
University facilities which specify that users must be students to 
get the discounted hire rate.

Accommodation would be provided but all other luxuries would be 
pretty minimal. However, what you would get is lots of pitch time in 
a nice hall, which is the point really!

If you could email me back by the end of the week that would be 
great because I need to confirm the booking as soon as possible.

Cheers,

Anna.

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This weekend the South West and Wales student Indoor Regionals being 
held at Cardiff. The tournament contained 20 teams from the 7 
university clubs. The top 3 shall now go through to nationals. 

The final results were:
1. Mythago        	: Qualify
2. No Frills             : Qualify
3. Uriel		: Qualify

4. BLT
5. Picnic
6. UWE
7. Mythago 2
8. No Frills 2

9. Skunks        (plate)
10. Picnic 2
11. Uriel 2
12. UWE 2
13. Mythago 3
14. Skunks 2
15. BLT 2
16. Mythago 4

17. Uriel 3         (spoon)
18. Skunks 3
19. No Spills
20. No Drills

Spirit of the game: Skunks 2
MVP of the final: David Barnard (No Frills)

Stuart Austin
No Frills, Un Poco Loco

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Hi everyone,

There is STILL some space in the charity tournament in London on the 1st and 
2nd.  I seriously doubt any more teams will enter at this late stage, but I 
will try to put together one or more pick-up teams if INDIVIDUALS wish to 
come and play.  If you are interested please mail me back so I can work out 
the final tournament format and so I can send you more information e.g. 
directions.
The current tournament format that I am toying with involves 16 games for 
each team, that's a lot of Ultimate - don't miss out.

Charlie B-N

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RESULTS LEEDS INDOORS 2001

1. Mexican Horse Bandits
2. West Yorkshire Winter League All Stars
3. Far Flung
4. Space Monkeys
5. Warwick Bears I
6. Blue Arse Flies
7. Fission
8. Odd Job
9. Mr Men (Plate Winners)
10.Jammie Bodgers
11.Angels
12.Warwick Bears II
13.Passive Peter & His Mates
14.Mild Mannered Janitors (Spirit Winners)
15.Flight Club
16.Yorkie Bar Kids
17.Mental Discs
18.Yorkie Bar Kids II

Thanks to all who helped score and time games.  Also to those who helped
clear up.

Sharma


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Midlands, 

...and everyone else coming to Loughborough this weekend. Here are the details 
for the tournament. There are two excel files with the game times on. All other 
details are on our website. 

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

There is a link 'Midlands Student Qualifiers'. This is what you need. Seedings, 
Map, Directions, Accommodation, Format, Rules, Groups, First Game Times. All 
sorts for you frisbee gimps to feast your eyes on! 

If you want accommodation on either of the nights then give me a call or email 
me. We can accommodate everyone, but we need to know in advance.

I am sure that I have forgotten something so call me on 07754 531706 or email 
me back if I have omitted any information. Please bring the cheques on the 
weekend if you have not paid yet.

Thanks and see you on Friday or Saturday. 

Luke Smith
Cpt - Haze

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk
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Subject: Winner Stays On
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BD,

Apologies for the short notice but does anyone fancy coming to the one day
"Winner
Stays On" indoor tournament in Cheltenham THIS Saturday (1st December)?

Simple concept = Teams of 6 (At least 2 men and 2 women) - winner stays on
- win the last game = win the tournament !!!

We've got 4 teams confirmed but a couple of teams have said they can't make
it in
the last few days...

Is anyone interested? Whole teams or just individuals looking to pick-up
both welcome...

Venue = Hardwick Campus
Cost = £10 per player (might come down if we get some more teams)
Start = 10am
Finish = 5pm

Let me know...

Balti
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NEWSFLASH: Clapham hegemony continues unbroken. Hammerage get revenge on
Fever and beat them in the only seeding breaker. Sublime play well and give
Fever a run for their money in the relegation game. We all laugh at Fabian.

10.00am Captains meeting: shambolic as usual.
10.30am 1st round: Clapham 1/Sublime(15-4), Clapham 2/Hammerage(15-8),
Druids/Fever(15-4), Sharks/Smash(13-3).
12.00am 2nd round: Clapham 1/Sharks(17-14), Clapham 2/Druids(17-10),
Smash/Sublime(15-5), Fever/Hammerage(11-14).
13.45pm Finals round: Clapham 1/Clapham 2(12-15), Druids/Sharks(15-11),
Smash/Hammerage(15-9), Fever/Sublime(17-13). 
15.30pm Muchos beer and Arsenal vs Man U: Muchos beer vs drinking frisbee
players (2-1), Scum vs Scum (3-1).

Full point totals will be revealed when I've normalised the scores and done
the maths. Please let me know ASAP if you think I've got any of the scores
wrong.

For Matchday 3 on 13/1/2002 we're moving to sync'ed Division 1 and Division
2! Div 1 will continue to be on the holy turf that is Clapham Common, Div 2
will be on Regents or Hyde Park. Red will replace Sublime in Div 1, and the
list of teams we're hoping to get for Div 2 is:
DiscDoctors
Cloudthings
BadHabits
Un Poco Loco
Mohawks
Pyramus and Frisbee

One of whom will be promoted to Div 1 for Matchday 4 in February, taking the
place of the Div 1 loser. There are still at least 2 places going in Div 2
on 13/1, please mail me if your team would like to take this unrivalled
opportunity to prepare for next year's outdoor season.

Cheers all, enjoy those sports hall burns ;-)
Silver Bear
cu#1


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Thomson [mailto:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk]
Sent: 23 November 2001 16:21
To: 'britdisc'; 'londonleague@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [londonleague] London Winter League Matchday 2 & 3 and Hat
tournament this Sunda y on Hyde Park


MATCHDAY 2 is this Sunday on Clapham Common.
Congratulations to Sublime for coming second at last weekend's qualification
event and 'respect' for travelling up to London two weekends on the trot to
play the outdoor version of our beloved game. Hammerage won the event and
take 7th seed as a result - they're now gunning for Fever's 6th place to get
revenge for Fever knocking them into the qualifiers...

Seeding order is as finishing order last time (including qualifier): Clapham
1, Clapham 2, Druids, Sharks, Smash & Grab, Fever, Hammerage, Sublime. Only
the team that finishes 8th will be relegated to Division 2 for Matchday 3 on
13/1. Goal difference WILL be added to the points tally as last time. We're
playing 8 team knockout this time around, but will revert to pools next
time.

I think we can start at 10.30 and easily finish in light:
10.00am Captain's meeting.
10.30am 1st round: Clapham 1/Sublime, Clapham 2/Hammerage, Druids/Fever,
Sharks/Smash & Grab. Games to 15. 1 hour to cap. 
12.00am 2nd round: 1v4, 2v3, 5v8, 6v7. Games to 17. 1 hour 15 mins to cap.
13.45pm Finals round: 1v2, 3v4, 5v6, 7v8. Games to 19. 1 hour 30 mins to
cap.
15.30pm Adjourn to the George for muchos beer and Man U vs Arsenal.

Bring cones please the usual coneheads! It'll be cold probably and might
rain so bring bin liners for your kit and warm playing gear, tights and
extra socks if you want to join Si Hill's ballet chorus.

MATCHDAY 3 is set for Sunday 13th January and yes, there will be 2
Divisions!!!
CloudThings, Discdoctors and BadHabits will contest Division 2 somewhere in
North London with the relegated team from Matchday 2 Division 1. The winning
team will be promoted to Division 1 for Matchday 4 sometime in February.
This event can handle some more teams if anyone else wants to get involved,
just mail me at this address. We'd love this to grow into a competition with
2 8-team Divisions by next winter but need your support.

HAT TOURNAMENT! For those not on a Winter League team this Sunday, that
wonderful cheeky chappy Mungo of BadHabits is running a hat tournament in
London. Anyone interested will need to turn up around 10:45. Bring dark and
light shirts. Location is the south side of hyde park beside South Carriage
Drive. Nearest tube Knightsbridge, walk up to the edge of Hyde Park (under
Bowater House) and turn left along the edge of the park. Pitches will be
somewhere between a Pony enclosure and the tennis courts near the Albert
memorial. Any queries? Email me at mungo.sheppard@camden.gov.uk during
working hours or call me on 07968 435 380 at any time. 

Now that the globe has sufficiently warmed, the UK is an all year outdoor
Ultimate kind of place! WAHEY!

Results will follow on Monday.
Your intrepid reporter and somewhat confused tournament director,
Silver Bear

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All,

WINNER STAYS ON - Cheltenham - Saturday 1st December

We've had a bit of a rush of teams dropping out and so we're down to just 3
confirmed teams - BAF 1, BAF A and Whiplash....

The whole thing is still going ahead but we're now opening it up to anyone
and everyone who wants to play - the co-ed plan may get knocked on the head
depending on how many women turn up - and the whole thing is likely to take
on a more "hat-tournament" feel.... Of course the fundamental concept still
remains the same - win the last game of the day and you win the tournament
...

So if you're in the area and fancy a game - give me a call (07747 844401)
or drop me a mail... everyone is welcome...

Start Time: 10am
Location: Hardwick Campus Sports Hall

Balti
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From: Giguere Stephen-BLUW31 <bluw31@motorola.com>
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:48:41 -0000 
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If anyone picked up a brown leather wallet at the 
Loughborough regionals I would appreciate getting it back.
I think I may have lost it during one of the calls just
outside the sports hall.
I figure with so many ultimate players around someone 
must have found it.  If you did please email me.

Thanks
Steve

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Hello,

You may remember me from such e-mails as 'Possible Beginner's Tournament' from a
few weeks ago?!

Anyway, it has now turned from a possible to a definite, following all the YES
e-mails I received.  I have booked the hall for the 2nd and 3rd of March 2002,
unfortunately I couldn't get it until 12.30pm on the Saturday, which will be a
nice late start for everyone but means that I can only get enough games in for
12 teams.  Sorry!  All the games will be of a decent length though, I thought
that was better than more teams and really short games.

There should be two teams from our beginner's practices, a Slipdisc team and the
latest incarnation of a Birmingham Uni team.  So, that means there are 10 places
in a beginner's tournament in Birmingham up for grabs.  I am setting the
experience criteria at 6 months or less so as not to preclude uni teams with
people who started in September/October.  Although, our guys will only have been
playing for about 4 months by then.  I'm also going to allow one 'experienced'
player on the pitch at any time, provided they wear a silly hat.

I will accept the first 10 cheques through my door and keep the next 4 on a
'stand-by' list, but won't be allowing 2nd teams as with only a 12 team
tournament you'll only end up playing yourselves!  I will put 2nd teams on the
'stand-by list tho.

Please send cheques for £60 (bargain!) payable to Slipdisc, to me at:

Simon Statham
37 York Street
Harborne
Birmingham
B17 0HG

Please let me know in a letter, name of team (obviously!!), e-mail contact
address and how many will require accommodation.  Not sure how much space for
accommodating people we will have yet, but will let you know nearer the time.

If you have any questions e-mail me back at this address, but I can't reserve
places on the back of e-mails, show me the money.

Cheers

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Hello,

Thanks to everyone who came to the Loughborough Midlands Student 2001. A
true display of growth in student ultimate. Good atmosphere. Especially
with the old boys teams there. There was a lot of lost property and the
list is at the bottom of the mail.

Loopy, we put in a bid to host the National Student Indoors and NTN at the
same time in June. Tim Blair has said that it has to go to an open bid.
However, it is unlikely that anyone else has facilities for 48 teams (5
halls). We are thinking of 3 tournaments all using the same format.
Nationals, NTN and an open tournament. I agree that you should have to
qualify for NTN. If anyone else wants to host the nationals, put a bid in
to tim blair asap.

Here are the results from the Midlands:

(qualified)
1. Bears
2. Purple Haze
3. Ow!
4. Fly TNT

(NTN qualifiers)
5. Purple Kennies (purple haze 4)
6. Jesters
7. Bears 2
8. Ow! 2

9. Mwnci See (Plate)
10. Bears 3
11. Random Fling 2
12. Jesters 2
13. Thundercats
14. Random Fling
15. Fly TNT 2
16. Grantham

17. Bears 4 (Spoon)
18. Purple Nasties
19. Bears 5
20. Purple Ronnies
21. Mwnci Do
22. Ow! 3
23. Mwnci Wrench

25. Haze Old School Boys (Open Division Winners)
26. Venom
27. YBK Old Boys
28. Airforce
29. Jesters Old Boys
30. Team 32
31. Liverpool (where were you?)

Spirit Award: Fly TNT
Party Award: Purple Haze
MVP in Final: Graham Shellswell

Lost Property:

If you think that anyof these items are yours, email me or ring me on 07754
531706 and describe it in more detail. We can either arrange for you to
pick it up, or for me to bring it to a tournament that you will be at, or
send me a cheque and I will post it to you.

Umbrella
Purple sleeping bag
Pro Sport Arm Pad
White Nike T Shirt
Black Polo Shirt
Grey No Fear T shirt
Black, Mambo Shirt
White Football T shirt (FFF)
Pink Paganello Shirt
Black Lynx T Shirt
Grey Moto T Shirt
Grey Reefer T shirt
Brown and Cream T shirt (68)
White OW! Shirt
Black Hooch beenie
Blue Beenie (power saver)
White Towel
Blue Towel
Orange Towel
Superfly Disc
Blank Disc (Superfly on back)
Pair of White Asics Trainers
Blue Hoody (Hertford, Oxford)
Cream Hoody (rusty)
Grey Polartec Fleece
Pair of White Donnay socks
Blue Polartec Scarf
Chinan Camera (with an added picture of me on it)



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Congratulations to everyone who took part in the 24 hour tournament in 
Hammersmith last weekend.  As you know we raised nearly £3000 for the chosen 
charities.  The results were as follows.

8) Headless Chickens (Spirit 2)
7) Whoosh
6) UCL-2
5) Swoosh (Plate)
4) UCL-1
3) Bad Habits
2) Standard Pleasure Unit (Spirit 1)
1) Night Fever (Clock)

Headless Chickens also won the spirit of the tournament award for the team 
that raised the most amount of money with nearly (£800).

If you have money that you have collected and you want to send in then you 
should do the following:
In either case post a cheque to Charlie Ben-Nathan, Latymer Upper School, 
King Street, Hammersmith, W6 9LR
If you have money for Shelter then please make your cheque out to 'Shelter', 
if the money is for Peru then please make the cheque out to 'Latymer Upper 
School' and it will be placed in the appropriate account.

There are various bits of lost property that I will catalogue and post a list 
of when I have woken up.

Again well done everyone and I look forward to seeing some of the pictures 
that people have taken.

Charlie

P.S. If anyone knows who damaged the ceiling tiles in the sports hall male 
changing room (accidentally or otherwise) it would be useful to know as it 
will have a bearing on whether or not we can run the tournament again - ever. 
 I don't need to know specifically who.

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Hi guys,

just wondering if any team had space for a pick up for
the xmas tourney...

i'd be eternally greatful and shower such a team with
gratitude and possibly watered down beer from jesters

let me know

cheers

nicole
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Hi  

  The Scottish student qualifiers took place over last weekend in Glasgow, and I'd like to thank all the teams that took part for making it a great tournament.
There were 15 teams entered from Scotlands 6 student clubs.

Results:

Qualifying for nationals:
1. Far Flung 1
2. Positive mojo 1
3. Flatball project 1

NTN qualifiers:
4. Ro Sham Bo 1
5. Shooting Stars 1
6. Far Flung 2

7. Positive mojo 2
8. Ro Sham Bo 2
9. Stirling Blaze (plate winners)
10.Flatball project 2
11.Shooting stars 3
12.Shooting stars 2
13.Positive mojo 3
14.Flatball project 3
15.Far Flung 3

Spirit: Flatball Project 2
Party : Dundee.

See Ya
Philip Webb
Far Flung

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Just a short note to tell you all about the Flyin' Femme Fest 

20 Teams ! 
and we know there were more out there.

Fierce
Mavis
BAF
Janet Hawes
Baps
Angelic Squaws
Strange Blue
Red
Bears
Mythago
Cardiff Angels
Janet Hawes (2)
Jesters
Skunks
FlyghtClub
Whip-ma Whop-ma
Disco Inferno
Daffodils
El Nino
The Addicts

Considering the minimal info available on many of these team.  Please
consider this the seeding for the event.

If any of these teams have not been mailed with Saturdays schedule,
please contact me asap 07866 336643.

Sam


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Hi,

Just a quick note to ask if anyone knows when or where any of the open 
indoor qualifiers are going to be this year?

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How do we submit bids to hold open regional events?

Cheers

Lewis

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Hi guys,

the results for last weekends south east qualifiers
are as follows:

Qualified for nationals:

 1 Strange Blue 1
 2 Sublime 1
 3 Disc Doctors 1

Qualified for NTN:

 4 brunel 1
 5 Kings
 6 Sublime 2

 7 Mohawks 1
 8 Kowmash (mohawks 2)
 9 Sublime 3 (Plate)
 10 Strange Blue 2 
 11 Aye Aye (spirit)
 12 Disc Doctors 2 
 13 Bo lawks
 14 brunel 2
 15 Strange blue 3 
 16 Mo whores

Brunel's position is currently under discussion, as it
was one of the clearly stipulated rules that non -
attendance at the party would lead to
disqualification, and there wasn't one brunel player
at the party - they were too busy swimming in the sea
(in december???) and sleeping...

Cheers to Sublime and Strange Blue for a fantastic
final, britney from strange blue was mvp of the final.
Thanks to loopy for helping us out with rules and
regulations, to all the mohawks for helping with the
running of the tourney, and to everyone who played in
the charity match. Another mention should go to the
Disc Doctors vs Strange Blue semi, yet again Disc
Doctors provided us with an absolutely fantastic semi.

Charity match mvp was Jacko/LD, charity match worst
player was juan, and best manager was britney.

Nicole
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If someone could offer guidance on this matter, that would be great, as we
are very keen to book a venue for the Midlands event, and need to do so
soon.

Andrew Godber
Slipdisc

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How do we submit bids to hold open regional events?

Cheers

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Nicole,

I reckon if you just cut to the chase and shower with the team that outta 
get you a place. :)

Jester



>
>Hi guys,
>
>just wondering if any team had space for a pick up for
>the xmas tourney...
>
>i'd be eternally greatful and shower such a team with
>gratitude and possibly watered down beer from jesters
>
>let me know
>cheers>
>nicole
>mohawks


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All,

BAF have a slot allocated to them in the Mixed division of World Clubs
which are being held in Hawaii next year.

Because of the cost, distance and training commitment involved, along with
the potential loss of a number of players who have already been given the
opportunity to "consider their options" with another team, we're looking to
recruit a few more players (both male & female) of a reasonable standard
...

We have a core of committed players and so are 95% certain to be taking up
our place - BUT we would like to build up a slightly larger squad to enable
us to compete to a high standard throughout next summer - both at WUCC and
also in ALL the tournaments in the build-up to Hawaii (U8 Tour, Mixed Tour
& "Friendly" tournaments)

The first full training session will be either 5th/6th or 12/13th of
January and will be held in either the Swindon or Cheltenham areas
depending on attendees with subsequent sessions to be held every 3 or 4
weeks.

So if you're interested (however vaguely) then please get in touch a.s.a.p.
including any preference you may have for training date and/or venue...

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I'm looking for some way to contact Tom the big
tall guy from teams like Janitors, Cyrille, and the
Mexican Horse Bandits.  I think his last name is Borham
or Bordham or something. If anyone can help I'd appreciate
it.

Thanks
(Sorry for the spam type email)
Steve

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All.

Si Weeks will have the schedule of events for 2002 ready any day now.
You should contact him regarding bids at siweeks@bigfoot.com

Cheers

Ben


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> How do we submit bids to hold open regional events?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lewis
>
>


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Both the e-mail addresses you gave me with your cheque for our beginner's
tournament don't seem to work, could you confirm them please?

You're in by the way, I'll get a receipt to you late next week.

E-mial me back at this address.

Si (Slipdisc)




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This weekend is Nottingham's Femme fest tournament, which 20 women's teams =
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Disc Devils Twente
Devils' Heaven 2002
P.O. Box 217
7500 AE Enschede
The Netherlands

Enschede, December 6th, 2001

Dear indoor-ultimate fans,

For the sixth year in a row we have the privilege to invite you to "Devils' 
Heaven", the indoor tournament hosted by the Disc Devils Twente. For 2002 
we set the date for the tournament on the 9th and 10th of March.

In the former editions of Devils' Heaven it was shown that the Campus of 
the University of Twente is an excellent location for a tournament. The 
gym, the Mensa (where we will eat on Saturday evening) and the Vestingbar 
(party!!) are all in crawling distance. Up till now, the tournament has 
attracted strong Dutch and foreign teams and for this years' edition we 
also expect strong competition. The number of teams is back to 16 this 
year. In a few weeks we will update the tournament page 
(http://www.discdevilstwente.nl/engels/heaven/) to keep you informed about 
which teams have registered.

We decided on a team fee of Euro 100 and a player fee of Euro 12,50; for 
this amount you will receive:
-Dinner, party and a place to sleep on Saturday evening
-Breakfast/lunch on Sunday morning
-A tournament disc
-And of course, eight matches of ultimate frisbee
-Accommodation on Friday is not included, but can be arranged. If you need 
accommodation on Friday evening, please contact us

Registration can be done by sending in the attached registration form and 
payment of the total fee (team fee + number of players times the player 
fee) on our account 7741757.

For international payment:
-IBAN code: NL02PSTP000774175
mention your name, address, amount of money (contact your bank for this)
-Or BIC address:INGBNL2A
mention your account, name, address, amount of money (contact your bank for 
this)
-Bank address (if necessary): Postbank N.V., Haarlemmerweg 520, 1014 BL 
Amsterdam
Or contact us (if encountering problems)

Your registration is final when we have received your payment. We let you 
know when you're in! When we know which teams will participate, we will 
send you detailed information about the tournament.

Register early to make sure you don't miss this years Devils' Heaven.

If you need to know more contact: 
<mailto:Wim.Boeken@hetnet.nl>Wim.Boeken@hetnet.nl

See you on the field!

The Devils' Heaven Committee
Roelof, Annelies, Kirsten, Hinderik and Wim

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Devils' Heaven 2002 Registration From
March 9-10, 2002

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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Contact:        . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Phone:          . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
e-mail:         . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Please fill out and return to:

University of Twente
Disc Devils Twente
P.O. Box 217
7500 AM Enschede
the Netherlands

or e-mail the data to: Wim.Boeken@hetnet.nl

Do not forget to pay your fees to account 7741757
For international payment:
-IBAN code: NL02PSTP000774175
mention your name, address, amount of money (contact your bank for this)
-Or BIC address:INGBNL2A
mention your account, name, address, amount of money (contact your bank for 
this)
-Bank address (if necessary): Postbank N.V., Haarlemmerweg 520, 1014 BL 
Amsterdam
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7500 AE Enschede<br>
The Netherlands<br><br>
Enschede, December 6th, 2001<br><br>
Dear indoor-ultimate fans,<br><br>
For the sixth year in a row we have the privilege to invite you to
&quot;Devils' Heaven&quot;, the indoor tournament hosted by the Disc
Devils Twente. For 2002 we set the date for the tournament on <b>the</b>
<b>9th and 10th of March</b>.<br><br>
In the former editions of Devils' Heaven it was shown that the Campus of
the University of Twente is an excellent location for a tournament. The
gym, the Mensa (where we will eat on Saturday evening) and the Vestingbar
(party!!) are all in crawling distance. Up till now, the tournament has
attracted strong Dutch and foreign teams and for this years' edition we
also expect strong competition. The number of teams is back to 16 this
year. In a few weeks we will update the tournament page
(<a href="http://www.discdevilstwente.nl/engels/heaven/" eudora="autourl">http://www.discdevilstwente.nl/engels/heaven</a><a href="http://www.discdevilstwente.nl/engels/heaven/" eudora="autourl">/</a>)
to keep you informed about which teams have registered.<br><br>
We decided on a <b>team fee of Euro 100 and a player fee of Euro
12,50</b>; for this amount you will receive:<br>
-Dinner, party and a place to sleep on Saturday evening<br>
-Breakfast/lunch on Sunday morning<br>
-A tournament disc<br>
-And of course, eight matches of ultimate frisbee<br>
-Accommodation on Friday is not included, but can be arranged. If you
need accommodation on Friday evening, please contact us<br><br>
<b>Registration</b> can be done by sending in the attached registration
form and payment of the total fee (team fee + number of players times the
player fee) on our account 7741757.<br><br>
<b>For international payment:<br>
</b>-IBAN code: NL02PSTP000774175<br>
mention your name, address, amount of money (contact your bank for
this)<br>
-Or BIC address:INGBNL2A<br>
mention your account, name, address, amount of money (contact your bank
for this)<br>
-Bank address (if necessary): Postbank N.V., Haarlemmerweg 520, 1014 BL
Amsterdam<br>
Or contact us (if encountering problems)<br><br>
Your registration is final when we have received your payment. We let you
know when you're in! When we know which teams will participate, we will
send you detailed information about the tournament.<br><br>
Register early to make sure you don't miss this years Devils'
Heaven.<br><br>
If you need to know more contact:
<a href="mailto:Wim.Boeken@hetnet.nl">Wim.Boeken@hetnet.nl</a><br><br>
See you on the field!<br><br>
The Devils' Heaven Committee<br>
Roelof, Annelies, Kirsten, Hinderik and Wim<br><br>
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<b>Devils' Heaven 2002 Registration From<br>
March 9-10, 2002<br><br>
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br>
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. . . . . . . . .<br><br>
<br>
Please <b>fill out and return</b> to:<br><br>
University of Twente<br>
Disc Devils Twente<br>
P.O. Box 217<br>
7500 AM Enschede<br>
the Netherlands<br><br>
<b>or e-mail the data</b> to: Wim.Boeken@hetnet.nl<br><br>
<b>Do not forget to pay your fees to account 7741757<br>
For international payment:<br>
</b>-IBAN code: NL02PSTP000774175<br>
mention your name, address, amount of money (contact your bank for
this)<br>
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mention your account, name, address, amount of money (contact your bank
for this)<br>
-Bank address (if necessary): Postbank N.V., Haarlemmerweg 520, 1014 BL
Amsterdam<br>
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My thanks to the seven teams that expressed interest.

Unfortunately, it isn't going to happen.

Regards
Wayne

Thu, 22 Nov 2001, by Wayne Retter <mailto:wayne@fluiddruids.com>;
 Subject: Touting for Indoor tournament interest 5+6 Jan 2002
>
>I have the possibility of running an Indoor tournament...
>
>date:     05 + 06 Jan 2002
>location: Crowthorne, Surrey (check a map! between M4 J10 and  M3 J4)
>size:     12 teams (maybe 16?)
>
>cost:     approx £90.00
>
>chances of accommodation, or an organised party, are slim.
>
>Is your team SERIOUSLY interested?
>Drop me a line, if so, preferably TODAY!
>
>Regards
>Wayne Retter

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Just to say that the following teams are entered into the Birmingham beginner's
tournament on the 2nd/3rd of March 2002

Slipdisc
Frisbrum
Mwnci Ci
Disc-iples
FLY TNT
Sublime
Random Fling
Boogie Knights
YBK
Drug Store Cowboys
Mute Animal
Bears

Anyone who is not on this list and has sent me a cheque I shall contact you
individually to see if you want to go on the stand-by list, and we may have an
alternative for you also...! (Top secret)

I'll contact the teams above in the coming weeks with further details of where,
when, how, which, why and wherefore.

Cheers

Si.




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Dear all,

Just an announcement for all those who knew Garratt Crosbie aka Gman who
played in Vancouver for Shotgun.
His partner Michelle has given birth to a healthy son.  Benjamin Hartley
Crosbie was born on Nov 30th at 5:15pm, weighing 6 pounds and 13 ounces.
The new family are all happy and healthy.

Bex
xx



Rebecca Forth
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Ladies and Gentlemen,

I would like to take this brief opportunity to welcome you all to take =
part
in the Birmingham 2002 Indoor Frisbee Tournament: The Great Barr Crawl. =
This
event will be taking place in our new 2 pitch venue at Great Barr =
Leisure
Centre, North Birmingham on the weekend of 9th/10th March. (I have been
assured that this is not Nationals weekend) The event will have 16 =
available
team slots for you all to apply for, and will be available at the =
bargain
price of =A370 per team. The event will probably run until 7pm on the
Saturday, and until 5:30pm on the Sunday night, and will be the perfect
opportunity to polish those indoor skills for the final tournaments of =
the
season.

If you would like to enter the tournament, then get the cheque in the =
post
as soon as possible, made payable to 'Slipdisc' and sent to the address
below. It would be useful for you to e-mail me as well, so that we can
establish an easy contact, but to re-use a usual sentiment: "We won't =
let
you in without the money."

31, Fenton Road
Acocks Green
Birmingham
B27 6HY

There may be some form of accommodation available in our fair city, and =
we
will be able to fill these details nearer the time.
> ___________________________________
> Andrew Godber
> Slipdisc
> E-mail: andrew.godber@arup.com
Home: 0121 706 2090
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I would like to take this brief =
opportunity to welcome you all to take part in the Birmingham 2002 =
Indoor Frisbee Tournament: The Great Barr Crawl. This event will be =
taking place in our new 2 pitch venue at Great Barr Leisure Centre, =
North Birmingham on the weekend of 9th/10th March. (I have been assured =
that this is not Nationals weekend) The event will have 16 available =
team slots for you all to apply for, and will be available at the =
bargain price of =A370 per team. The event will probably run until 7pm =
on the Saturday, and until 5:30pm on the Sunday night, and will be the =
perfect opportunity to polish those indoor skills for the final =
tournaments of the season.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">If you would like to enter the =
tournament, then get the cheque in the post as soon as possible, made =
payable to 'Slipdisc' and sent to the address below. It would be useful =
for you to e-mail me as well, so that we can establish an easy contact, =
but to re-use a usual sentiment: &quot;We won't let you in without the =
money.&quot;</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">31, Fenton Road</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Acocks Green</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Birmingham</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">B27 6HY</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">There may be some form of =
accommodation available in our fair city, and we will be able to fill =
these details nearer the time.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">___________________________________</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial">Andrew Godber</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Slipdisc</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">E-mail: =
andrew.godber@arup.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Home: 0121 706 2090</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Mobile: 07733 426124</FONT>
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Hello everyone,

In making my debut as DoC I would like to provide you all with a list of the
proposed dates for all the main tournaments next year. This list is by no means
all encompassing, but it provides the bare minimum of events that I would like
to see happen. It provides three purposes:

(i) It allows you to make tentative entries in your diaries for 2002.
(ii)    It allows those people who wish to bid to host one of these events to
know which is the most appropriate weekend.
(iii)   It allows those people who want to plan additional tournaments to work
around the proposed schedule for the main events. Having said that with the
number of players and teams increasing so much year on year, there is no reason
why we cannot have two or even three tournaments running on any one weekend next
year.

With regards to some of the tournaments listed below, particularly the open tour
events, I have already been approached by people who have booked venues for
particular dates next year. Now whilst I want to be able to confirm to these
people as soon as possible if their location will be the chosen venue I also
would like to give everyone the opportunity to bid for any event/s.

Therefore I am requesting that anyone interested in hosting one of the events
listed below should email or write to me with an official bid within one month
of today's date (Monday 7th January). Included in this bid should be:
- Geographical location
- Quality of venue (to include a photo of outdoor venues that have not
previously been used)
- Number of pitches available (and dimensions for indoors)
- Cost per team (you will be more or less held to this)
- Dates that the facilities are available
- Accommodation provision
- Catering facilities
- Additional services (e.g. first aid, masseurs, physios, party)

Please send all bids to:
Simon Weeks
23 Shepards Close
Fareham
PO14 3AJ

Or email them to bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk. Do not use this email address, as it is my
work email.

Rather than email me if you do have any questions please give me a call (I can
always call you back to save your phone bill) on 07976 216135.

WARNING: These are only the preferred dates for next years' events. Do not do
anything drastic like book days off work for these events.

1. 05/06 Jan 
2. 12/13 Jan
3. 19/20 Jan
4. 26/27 Jan
5. 02/03 Feb Co-ed Indoor Qualifiers
6. 09/10 Feb 
7. 16/17 Feb Student Indoor Finals/ Womens' Indoor Finals
8. 23/24 Feb Open Indoor Qualifiers
9. 02/03 Mar Junior Indoor Finals
10. 09/10 Mar Co-ed Indoor Finals
11. 16/17 Mar Open Indoor Finals
12. 23/24 Mar
13. 30/31 Mar Rimini (Overseas)
14. 06/07 Apr
15. 13/14 Apr Open Tour I
16. 20/21 Apr
17. 27/28 Apr Co-ed Tour I
18. 04/05 May Student Outdoors/ Bruges (Overseas)
19. 11/12 May Rotterdam (Overseas)
20. 18/19 May Open Tour II
21. 25/26 May
22. 01/02 Jun Womens' Nationals
23. 08/09 Jun Co-ed Tour II
24. 15/16 Jun Junior Nationals
25. 22/23 Jun Tour III
26. 29/30 Jun
27. 06/07 Jul Co-ed Tour III
28. 13/14 Jul
29. 20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
30. 27/28 Jul
31. 03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
32. 10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
33. 17/18 Aug
34. 25/26 Aug British Open
35. 31/1 Sep
36. 07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
37. 14/15 Sep
38.21/22 Sep Open Nationals
39. 28/29 Sep

Thanks everyone,

Si Weeks
Director of Competitions



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Sorry, have just been informed that Britdisc doesn't handle attachments
very well so incase it doesn't work, all the directions and any other
information about the tournament can be found at :

www.skunksultimate.co.uk/xmas/xmas.html

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hi BD,

just a quick thanks to all the teams who made it to the Savage 7s,
tournament in Crystal Palace this weekend, and contributed to a great event. 

Clapham 1 and Toast (highly powerful leeds conglomerate making fools of
the seeding committee - we'll know better next time) played out a very
high quality final under the floodlights, the South Londoners eventually
emerging victorious.
 
Full results are to follow.

best regards
Simon
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>...can anyone give me and my boyf a lift to Southampton from London this weekend....late Friday night or early Saturday morning?</DIV>
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<DIV>Email or call 020 7520 2472 (work) or 07752 612244.</DIV>
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Dear All,
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Even wondered what to get that special Ultimate playing friend for
Christmas. Well here's a great idea from Block Stack Productions.
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Men's UPA 2000 Championship Video Normally =A315=20
10% off till Christmas =A313.50
=20
Women's UPA 2000 Championship Video Normally =A315
20% off till Christmas =A312.00
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Or Both Videos Normally =A326
=A324 till Christmas.
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"Well all that sounds nice Tom, but how do I get hold of these wonderful
videos"
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Its easy, simply send a cheque for the correct amount to the address
below. Don't forget to mention which videos you were interested in, and
include a return address and an email if you have one.
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If your cheque arrives before the 17th we'll be able to get the video to
you before Christmas Day.=20
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Make Cheques payable to "Block Stack Productions"
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Block Stack Productions
c/o Tom Styles
151b Main Street,
Woodborough,
Nottingham,
NG14 6DD
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I'll take this opportunity to wish you all a very merry Christmas, and
look forward to seeing you at a tournament in the new year.
=20
Cheers
Tom
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tom@block-stack.co.uk
www.block-stack-co.uk
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PS. It was fantastic to see so many women having a great time at the
Femme Fest in Nottingham over the weekend. Sooo Damn Grooovey!

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Even =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Men's =
UPA 2000=20
Championship Video Normally =A315 </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>10% =
off&nbsp;till=20
Christmas =A313.50</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Women's UPA 2000=20
Championship Video Normally =A315</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>20% =
off till=20
Christmas =A312.00</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>=A324 =
till=20
Christmas.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Well =
all that=20
sounds nice Tom, but how do I get hold of these wonderful=20
videos"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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send a cheque for the correct amount to the address below. Don't forget =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If =
your cheque=20
arrives before the 17th we'll be able to get the video to you before =
Christmas=20
Day. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Make =
Cheques payable=20
to "Block Stack Productions"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Block =
Stack=20
Productions</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>c/o =
Tom=20
Styles</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Nottingham,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>NG14=20
6DD</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll =
take this=20
opportunity to wish you all a very merry Christmas, and look forward to =
seeing=20
you at a tournament in the new year.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Tom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D772563016-10122001><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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was fantastic=20
to see so many women having a great time at the Femme Fest in Nottingham =
over=20
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Becca and everyone,

I'll be driving down from the Reading area on Friday night, if anyone wants 
a lift I can pick them up from Reading station but would really appreciate 
it if you could get to Pangbourne (little station two stops out)

Sorry to those who don't care,

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From: "Rebecca Humphries" <beccahumphries@hotmail.com>
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>...can anyone give me and my boyf a lift to Southampton from London this weekend....late Friday night or early Saturday morning?</DIV>
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<DIV>Email or call 020 7520 2472 (work) or 07752 612244.</DIV>
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From: "Dave Neilson" <D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk>
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Subject: Ultimate demo
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:01:06 -0800 (PST)
From: alison smith <ickle_gizmo@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Help need for Ultimate demo
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 

Hi,
I am looking for 5 or 6 people, who live around the
guildford area (Lightwater is the actual place), to
help with a small public demonstration of Ultimate
this Saturday (15th).  

A local leisure centre, that I have worked with
before, is holding an open day in their local town
square to advertise sports they are looking to run
coaching courses in next year.  After much persuasion,
I have convinced them of the benefits of Ultimate as
sport to coach kids, and so, they have asked me to
demonstrate a small game to show both them, and the
public, what it's about.  Unfortunately, I usually
play in Leeds and so don't actually know that many
people where I live who play Ultimate and could help
me out.  

It would be really low standard, low effort, given
that it will be in a town square, but will show the
basic idea to get people interested.

If anyone is able to help me for about half an hour
around lunch time this Saturday, please e.mail me for
details:

ickle_gizmo@yahoo.co.uk, or,
bms9als@leeds.ac.uk 

or call me;
07876 744324,

Thanks very much for your time,

Ali
(Jedi)

p.s.  I can offer Haribo to anyone who helps me!!!

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From: "Ed Gonsalves" <edgonsalves@hotmail.com>
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: 2002 Offer to Practice in Harrow, London.
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:41:14 +0000
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>If putting together a regular practice session in Harrow (NW London Suburbs- Zone 4) makes sense to anyone living/moving in the area please get in contact (ie I'm happy to sort it out)....the venue will be the Northwick Park playing fields which sit ON the Bakerloo (South Kenton) &amp; Met (Northwick Park) lines. To start in Spring 2002. No intention for this to be another team- more a convenient place to practice and happen together. </DIV>
<DIV>Let me know at <A href="mailto:edgonsalves@hotmail.com">edgonsalves@hotmail.com</A>&nbsp;rather than cram the list for now.</DIV>
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After a discussion at the weekend concerning women's ultimate it looks as if
the women's tour events will happen alongside the open tours again this
year. So would anyone making a bid to hold an open tour event note that the
venue may also need to be able to accomodate 8 or more women's teams.

Thanks,

Maria

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From: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk [mailto:Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk]
Sent: 07 December 2001 9:25 PM
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: BUA Diary 2002


Hello everyone,

In making my debut as DoC I would like to provide you all with a list of the
proposed dates for all the main tournaments next year. This list is by no
means
all encompassing, but it provides the bare minimum of events that I would
like
to see happen. It provides three purposes:

(i) It allows you to make tentative entries in your diaries for 2002.
(ii)    It allows those people who wish to bid to host one of these events
to
know which is the most appropriate weekend.
(iii)   It allows those people who want to plan additional tournaments to
work
around the proposed schedule for the main events. Having said that with the
number of players and teams increasing so much year on year, there is no
reason
why we cannot have two or even three tournaments running on any one weekend
next
year.

With regards to some of the tournaments listed below, particularly the open
tour
events, I have already been approached by people who have booked venues for
particular dates next year. Now whilst I want to be able to confirm to these
people as soon as possible if their location will be the chosen venue I also
would like to give everyone the opportunity to bid for any event/s.

Therefore I am requesting that anyone interested in hosting one of the
events
listed below should email or write to me with an official bid within one
month
of today's date (Monday 7th January). Included in this bid should be:
- Geographical location
- Quality of venue (to include a photo of outdoor venues that have not
previously been used)
- Number of pitches available (and dimensions for indoors)
- Cost per team (you will be more or less held to this)
- Dates that the facilities are available
- Accommodation provision
- Catering facilities
- Additional services (e.g. first aid, masseurs, physios, party)

Please send all bids to:
Simon Weeks
23 Shepards Close
Fareham
PO14 3AJ

Or email them to bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk. Do not use this email address, as it
is my
work email.

Rather than email me if you do have any questions please give me a call (I
can
always call you back to save your phone bill) on 07976 216135.

WARNING: These are only the preferred dates for next years' events. Do not
do
anything drastic like book days off work for these events.

1. 05/06 Jan 
2. 12/13 Jan
3. 19/20 Jan
4. 26/27 Jan
5. 02/03 Feb Co-ed Indoor Qualifiers
6. 09/10 Feb 
7. 16/17 Feb Student Indoor Finals/ Womens' Indoor Finals
8. 23/24 Feb Open Indoor Qualifiers
9. 02/03 Mar Junior Indoor Finals
10. 09/10 Mar Co-ed Indoor Finals
11. 16/17 Mar Open Indoor Finals
12. 23/24 Mar
13. 30/31 Mar Rimini (Overseas)
14. 06/07 Apr
15. 13/14 Apr Open Tour I
16. 20/21 Apr
17. 27/28 Apr Co-ed Tour I
18. 04/05 May Student Outdoors/ Bruges (Overseas)
19. 11/12 May Rotterdam (Overseas)
20. 18/19 May Open Tour II
21. 25/26 May
22. 01/02 Jun Womens' Nationals
23. 08/09 Jun Co-ed Tour II
24. 15/16 Jun Junior Nationals
25. 22/23 Jun Tour III
26. 29/30 Jun
27. 06/07 Jul Co-ed Tour III
28. 13/14 Jul
29. 20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
30. 27/28 Jul
31. 03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
32. 10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
33. 17/18 Aug
34. 25/26 Aug British Open
35. 31/1 Sep
36. 07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
37. 14/15 Sep
38.21/22 Sep Open Nationals
39. 28/29 Sep

Thanks everyone,

Si Weeks
Director of Competitions



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Hi, 
the web page has been updated and now contains the schedule for saturdays
games. Please note the 8 teams that are playing first. Late arrival will
be punished by a point per minute. Captains meeting is at 9. 

Also on the web page is a list of teams needing accomodation. If there are
any others please can they let me know.

Cheers, trigger

http://www.skunksultimate.co.uk/xmas/xmas.html



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I took some pictures of the Savage 7 tournament at the weekend.  You can 
have a look here:-

http://www.JonsPhotos.org.uk/ultimate/savage7s

Teams featured are Clapham, Toast, Chevvy and night fever.

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Trigger
I'm not good at this stuff so could you tell me when we are playing
Cheers
Adam
Snoape
PS I'll buy you a beer!
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> Hi,
> the web page has been updated and now contains the schedule for saturdays
> games. Please note the 8 teams that are playing first. Late arrival will
> be punished by a point per minute. Captains meeting is at 9.
>
> Also on the web page is a list of teams needing accomodation. If there are
> any others please can they let me know.
>
> Cheers, trigger
>
> http://www.skunksultimate.co.uk/xmas/xmas.html
>
>
>
> af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> ICQ 109328505
>

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Adam, Snoap's first game is 9:20 against Air Force in University Hall.

Does this mean I get the beer? Does everyone offering you info. get a 
beer? ;)

Mines a lager. Cheers.

Cheesy (Sublime)

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Hi Si,
don't know if any one else has mentioned anything to you directly but i 
wanted to ask why it has been proposed to relegate Nationals to the last 
weekend of the season again. As long as i have been playing people have been 
moaning about the weather for what should be the premiere tournament of the 
season, and i was sort of hoping that with the advent of the BUA we could 
break with tradition and make a bit more effort for Nationals. I fully 
understand the weekend on/weekend off theory, but I would hope that people 
would make the effort to attend Nationals whenever it was. That way we may 
avoid a final that finishes 2 upwind scores each. As always, open to general 
discussion.
cheers
wigsy



>From: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
>Reply-To: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: BUA Diary 2002
>Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:24:55 +0000
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>In making my debut as DoC I would like to provide you all with a list of 
>the
>proposed dates for all the main tournaments next year. This list is by no 
>means
>all encompassing, but it provides the bare minimum of events that I would 
>like
>to see happen. It provides three purposes:
>
>(i) It allows you to make tentative entries in your diaries for 2002.
>(ii)    It allows those people who wish to bid to host one of these events 
>to
>know which is the most appropriate weekend.
>(iii)   It allows those people who want to plan additional tournaments to 
>work
>around the proposed schedule for the main events. Having said that with the
>number of players and teams increasing so much year on year, there is no 
>reason
>why we cannot have two or even three tournaments running on any one weekend 
>next
>year.
>
>With regards to some of the tournaments listed below, particularly the open 
>tour
>events, I have already been approached by people who have booked venues for
>particular dates next year. Now whilst I want to be able to confirm to 
>these
>people as soon as possible if their location will be the chosen venue I 
>also
>would like to give everyone the opportunity to bid for any event/s.
>
>Therefore I am requesting that anyone interested in hosting one of the 
>events
>listed below should email or write to me with an official bid within one 
>month
>of today's date (Monday 7th January). Included in this bid should be:
>- Geographical location
>- Quality of venue (to include a photo of outdoor venues that have not
>previously been used)
>- Number of pitches available (and dimensions for indoors)
>- Cost per team (you will be more or less held to this)
>- Dates that the facilities are available
>- Accommodation provision
>- Catering facilities
>- Additional services (e.g. first aid, masseurs, physios, party)
>
>Please send all bids to:
>Simon Weeks
>23 Shepards Close
>Fareham
>PO14 3AJ
>
>Or email them to bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk. Do not use this email address, as it 
>is my
>work email.
>
>Rather than email me if you do have any questions please give me a call (I 
>can
>always call you back to save your phone bill) on 07976 216135.
>
>WARNING: These are only the preferred dates for next years' events. Do not 
>do
>anything drastic like book days off work for these events.
>
>1. 05/06 Jan
>2. 12/13 Jan
>3. 19/20 Jan
>4. 26/27 Jan
>5. 02/03 Feb Co-ed Indoor Qualifiers
>6. 09/10 Feb
>7. 16/17 Feb Student Indoor Finals/ Womens' Indoor Finals
>8. 23/24 Feb Open Indoor Qualifiers
>9. 02/03 Mar Junior Indoor Finals
>10. 09/10 Mar Co-ed Indoor Finals
>11. 16/17 Mar Open Indoor Finals
>12. 23/24 Mar
>13. 30/31 Mar Rimini (Overseas)
>14. 06/07 Apr
>15. 13/14 Apr Open Tour I
>16. 20/21 Apr
>17. 27/28 Apr Co-ed Tour I
>18. 04/05 May Student Outdoors/ Bruges (Overseas)
>19. 11/12 May Rotterdam (Overseas)
>20. 18/19 May Open Tour II
>21. 25/26 May
>22. 01/02 Jun Womens' Nationals
>23. 08/09 Jun Co-ed Tour II
>24. 15/16 Jun Junior Nationals
>25. 22/23 Jun Tour III
>26. 29/30 Jun
>27. 06/07 Jul Co-ed Tour III
>28. 13/14 Jul
>29. 20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
>30. 27/28 Jul
>31. 03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
>32. 10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
>33. 17/18 Aug
>34. 25/26 Aug British Open
>35. 31/1 Sep
>36. 07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
>37. 14/15 Sep
>38.21/22 Sep Open Nationals
>39. 28/29 Sep
>
>Thanks everyone,
>
>Si Weeks
>Director of Competitions
>
>
>
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Hi all,=20


wie heeft toevallig het telefoonnummer van Rens Agterberg van UFO?

Met vriendelijke groet,

Juicy (Red Lights)


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  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:58 PM
  Subject: DutchDisc: Devils' Heaven 2002, registration is open


  Disc Devils Twente
  Devils' Heaven 2002
  P.O. Box 217
  7500 AE Enschede
  The Netherlands

  Enschede, December 6th, 2001

  Dear indoor-ultimate fans,

  For the sixth year in a row we have the privilege to invite you to =
"Devils' Heaven", the indoor tournament hosted by the Disc Devils =
Twente. For 2002 we set the date for the tournament on the 9th and 10th =
of March.

  In the former editions of Devils' Heaven it was shown that the Campus =
of the University of Twente is an excellent location for a tournament. =
The gym, the Mensa (where we will eat on Saturday evening) and the =
Vestingbar (party!!) are all in crawling distance. Up till now, the =
tournament has attracted strong Dutch and foreign teams and for this =
years' edition we also expect strong competition. The number of teams is =
back to 16 this year. In a few weeks we will update the tournament page =
(http://www.discdevilstwente.nl/engels/heaven/) to keep you informed =
about which teams have registered.

  We decided on a team fee of Euro 100 and a player fee of Euro 12,50; =
for this amount you will receive:
  -Dinner, party and a place to sleep on Saturday evening
  -Breakfast/lunch on Sunday morning
  -A tournament disc
  -And of course, eight matches of ultimate frisbee
  -Accommodation on Friday is not included, but can be arranged. If you =
need accommodation on Friday evening, please contact us

  Registration can be done by sending in the attached registration form =
and payment of the total fee (team fee + number of players times the =
player fee) on our account 7741757.

  For international payment:
  -IBAN code: NL02PSTP000774175
  mention your name, address, amount of money (contact your bank for =
this)
  -Or BIC address:INGBNL2A
  mention your account, name, address, amount of money (contact your =
bank for this)
  -Bank address (if necessary): Postbank N.V., Haarlemmerweg 520, 1014 =
BL Amsterdam
  Or contact us (if encountering problems)

  Your registration is final when we have received your payment. We let =
you know when you're in! When we know which teams will participate, we =
will send you detailed information about the tournament.

  Register early to make sure you don't miss this years Devils' Heaven.

  If you need to know more contact: Wim.Boeken@hetnet.nl

  See you on the field!

  The Devils' Heaven Committee
  Roelof, Annelies, Kirsten, Hinderik and Wim

  =
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  March 9-10, 2002

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  Please fill out and return to:

  University of Twente
  Disc Devils Twente
  P.O. Box 217
  7500 AM Enschede
  the Netherlands

  or e-mail the data to: Wim.Boeken@hetnet.nl

  Do not forget to pay your fees to account 7741757
  For international payment:
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  mention your name, address, amount of money (contact your bank for =
this)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>wie heeft toevallig het telefoonnummer =
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Agterberg van UFO?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Met vriendelijke groet,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Juicy (Red Lights)</FONT></DIV>
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Valid point from Wigsy...

It also reminds me that at the end of last year there were some comments
on the 'gap' between the end of the serious (we each have our own
definitions, but here I mean Open Tour) Ultimate and Nationals.  Anyone
keen on that argument will note that there's 8 weeks between T4 and
Nationals.

On the other hand, Si's 'manifesto' did state that he wasn't planning to
make any major changes to the schedule this year.

Hopefully Hawaii, the British Open, and a fair few nonSerious events
should keep us occupied and at the top of our game.

Wayne



Wed, 12 Dec 2001, by Christian Nistri <mailto:wigsy22@hotmail.com>;
 Subject: BUA Diary 2002
>Hi Si,
>don't know if any one else has mentioned anything to you directly but i 
>wanted to ask why it has been proposed to relegate Nationals to the last 
>weekend of the season again. As long as i have been playing people have been 
>moaning about the weather for what should be the premiere tournament of the 
>season, and i was sort of hoping that with the advent of the BUA we could 
>break with tradition and make a bit more effort for Nationals. I fully 
>understand the weekend on/weekend off theory, but I would hope that people 
>would make the effort to attend Nationals whenever it was. That way we may 
>avoid a final that finishes 2 upwind scores each. As always, open to general 
>discussion.
>cheers
>wigsy

>>27. 06/07 Jul Co-ed Tour III
>>28. 13/14 Jul
>>29. 20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
>>30. 27/28 Jul
>>31. 03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
>>32. 10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
>>33. 17/18 Aug
>>34. 25/26 Aug British Open
>>35. 31/1 Sep
>>36. 07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
>>37. 14/15 Sep
>>38.21/22 Sep Open Nationals
>>39. 28/29 Sep
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From: Andrew Feltham <af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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Sorry to those that aren't going / get this twice

There are a few teams heading to southampton friday night. If you are one
of them, then we shall be meeting at 'The Varsity' which is a pub not too
far from the station in Southampton.

Again directions are on the tournament page. ( or will be )

Trigger

http://www.skunksultimate.co.uk/xmas/xmas.html



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Sorry to bother everyone again....

... Can someone from last years UTI team that played in the Xmas
Tournament in Soton, please get in touch. Thanks

Trigger

And it wasn't my fault Ukultimate.com doens't have a team entry for UTI
any more. Has my old team that died about 4 years ago but no UTI!?



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Andrew,

Thanks for taking four years to let us know that your old team has died. If I wait another four years will I get to find out which team this is?

UTI are not listed on the site because they disbanded last year and thoughtfully removed themselves using the automated update system.

Ben
UK Ultimate


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Andrew Feltham <af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:16:25 +0000 (GMT)

>Sorry to bother everyone again....
>
>... Can someone from last years UTI team that played in the Xmas
>Tournament in Soton, please get in touch. Thanks
>
>Trigger
>
>And it wasn't my fault Ukultimate.com doens't have a team entry for UTI
>any more. Has my old team that died about 4 years ago but no UTI!?
>
>
>
>af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>ICQ 109328505
>
>

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Hello out there to all you frisbee-ers out there!!!!

The University of Bristol's Ultimate team, MYTHAGO is holding an
OPEN indoor tournament on 9/10 of FEBRUARY 2002 in association with
The British Heart Foundation.  So we would love to see lots of you playing 
some quality ultimate down here!!

We have places for 17 teams.  The cost per team will be £90 so we can raise 
a good amount for the BHF!!!

If you would be interested, then please send your cheques (payable to UBUFC 
- and say who they're from and a phone no.) to me;

Lewis McFadyen
23b Arthur Road
Biggin Hill
Kent
TN16 3DD

It's first come first served, and we cannot hold places until we see those 
cheques!!! When i receive these, i'll ring you to confirm your shiny new 
place our tournie.

Any queries, my number is 07855527983
Accomodation might be available if you ask nicely!

All the best

LEWIS MCFADYEN
TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR



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One of our players has just pulled out of this weekend
'cause his mum is ill, so if anyone out there would
like to pick-up for Mute Animal Unit (the best team
you've never heard of) then get in contact or find me
at the tourny!

cheers

Dann- mute animal unit, sleep sleep sleep, beige, GB
under 5s

07811 375 015

=====
>From Dan Cleveland

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From: Andrew Feltham <af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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Thank you for all those teams that turned up this weekend. I hope everyone
had a good weekend. 

I am sure that i speak for everyone at the tournament, when i wish Matt (
snoap ) a speady recovery from his injury in what was a fantastic
final. Get Well Soon. 

Results were as follows
1. Snoap
2. Yo mama
3. Mythago
4. Baf 2
5. Furious 5
6. Simpsons
7. Mr men
8. Nightfever

9. UTI ( Plate )
10. Smash & Grab
11. Sublmie 1
12. Skunks 1
13. Angels
14. Skumy
15. BAF 1
16. Surrey

17. Whiplash ( Bowl )
18 Mute Animal Unit ( Spirit )
19. Air Force
20. Mohawks
21. Soppin
22. Sublime 2
23 Skunks 2
24. -------

There was a small amount of lost property found afterwards, including some
keys. If you have lost anything please let me know and i will have a look
for you.

Thanks again to those that helped the tournament run well and thanks for
comming.

Trigger
TD



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Need a break from winter ?

Come to the first European Beach Ultimate Tournament of 2002 (?) on

        January 25 through 27 in Las Palmas de Gran Canaria.

For the third time the local team "Atis Tirma" is organizing this 
small hat tournament for up to 100 players. The date has been moved 
forward from the previous years to provide those who qualified for 
the "Dr.Sand & MR.Grass" tournament on the neigbouring island 
Tenerife a chance to enjoy two Canarian events within 10 days.

The fee of 90.- EUR includes three nights with breakfast in a 3 star 
hotel about a 15min walk away from the beach as well as a Saturday 
night party with dinner.

Check out the tournament web page for more information and to sign up:

http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/gran-canaria/

See these photos if you want to know how much people enjoyed the past 
tournaments:

http://BarnaDisc.tripod.com/html/canariase.html

http://www.pabs2000.com/vaca/canaria00/index.html


Thomas

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Britdisc,

Next year's British disc golf tour has been confirmed and the schedule can 
be viewed online at www.OBmegazine.com

First tournament is the 'Frostbreaker' at Whitcombe, Dorset on 9/10 February.
This is one of the finest courses in Europe.

Photos from last year's Frostbreaker:
http://www.discgolfphotos.com/gallerypages/england/frostbreaker2001/index.htm

The British Open is to be staged on the the Isle of Mull, Scotland. The 
course is also celebrating its 10th anniversary this year.
The event takes place on 3-5 May.

Photos from the last Mull tournament
http://www.discgolfphotos.com/gallerypages/scotland/mull2000gallery/index.htm

If anyone needs any last minute discs in time for Christmas, Discology has 
some fantastic plastic in stock. Get in touch with Frank 'Santa Claus'
Knutton or myself to see if we've got what your looking for. Alternatively 
visit our online flying disc shop www.discology.co.uk/shop

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Britdisc,

Next year's British disc golf tour has been confirmed and the schedule can 
be viewed online at www.OBmegazine.com

First tournament is the 'Frostbreaker' at Whitcombe, Dorset on 9/10 February.
This is one of the finest courses in Europe.

Photos from last year's Frostbreaker:
http://www.discgolfphotos.com/gallerypages/england/frostbreaker2001/index.htm

The British Open is to be staged on the the Isle of Mull, Scotland. The 
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The event takes place on 3-5 May.

Photos from the last Mull tournament
http://www.discgolfphotos.com/gallerypages/scotland/mull2000gallery/index.htm

If anyone needs any last minute discs in time for Christmas, Discology has 
some fantastic plastic in stock. Get in touch with Frank 'Santa Claus'
Knutton or myself to see if we've got what your looking for. Alternatively 
visit our online flying disc shop www.discology.co.uk/shop

Richard
BDGA # 74
office: 020 8575 1564
mob: 07989 406256


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Fierce (CUP)
Janet Hawes
Skunks
BAF
Mavis
Bears
Strange Blue
Red

Duffodils (PLATE)
Jesters
Janet Hawes (2)
El Nino/Addicts
Cardiff Angels
Birds of Flyght
Whip-me-Whop-ma
Angels (London)

Mythago (SPOON) (SOTG)
FlyghtClub

If you missed it, you’re going to kick yourself.  Billed as possibly the
biggest Women’s’ Ultimate event so far in the UK.  2 days of ferocious,
fabulous, frisbee, 18 teams over two days.  In Nottingham, at that lurvly 
new sports hall at Clifton Campus.

The initial pool games set the standards with the strong dominating &
inspiring and the less experienced leaping froward, many teams had never
played an event without the boys and some with less experience than that. 
Everyone proved that you don’t need experience to have a good time and
that you can still have a good time AND take it seriously

Janet Hawes (Leeds+) nearly stole the day by entering 2 teams attempting
to make it to both Cup & Plate Finals (but one team turned up to the
wrong University, giving Sam the opportunity to do his Samaritan bit.
The El Nino/Addicts (Carlisle/Newcastle) combo gained respect as a young, 
up and coming group by playing some hard ultimate and looking
particularly young and excitable, being the Junior reps to the game,
running around making it all look sooooo easy. Catherine has done a nice
job there.

Games ran late on Saturday making sure everyone was tired.  Then the
party kicked and rocked and rolled, the DJs chatted but the girls came to 
see Tom (Get your Videos here) Styles, but Tom wasn’t there so nobody
really noticed the music.  Got very drunk though (dancin’ on tables next time).

By some quirk of fate and scheduling Mavis(London/Nottingham) the local
heroines were in a top 8 pool and up against the likes of BAF(Evesham)
and Fierce(London), no-one was going to be happy in that pool.  It was
nice to see them all playing the indoor season again.

Having played all the seeding games on Saturday, Sunday gave everyone a
goal to work for.  A short day, with some of the best Ultimate I have
seen in ages.  At every level of the game, Old hands worked disc and
young ones reached higher.  Tom finally turned up and laid on the tunes
and the girls looked for tables to dance on, the day kicked in and finals 
loomed. 

The Spoon Final was decided early, The Myth snatching victory from the
local hopefuls. Then they demonstrated their flair in a display of spirit 
& entertainment, Mythago(Bristol) and Flyghtclub(Nottingham) mixed it up
in Slippy-e-Mon garb.  The Plate saw a Division 2 battle between local
Girls, Leicester Jesters and Duffodils (Durham). Feeling ever confident
the northern roses, stomped to Victory in hard and hungry game.

Giants they were, let it be said, when Janet Hawes & Fierce meet face to
face.  North & South meeting in the middle for a strong and spectacular
final with hammered bids at every opportunity.  A tight game by all
accounts and well spirited too fought hard and won hard.  Janet opened
with a flurry of points, taking the advantage and putting the Fierce
women under pressure.  Fierce balanced their game and almost by luck made 
those turnovers enough to count; then with renewed vigour, Fierce battled 
taking a challenging four-point lead.  Janet moved up a gear and
countered well; some desperate and amazing and calm plays, but ol’ girl
time and an almost solid Fierce defence held them back for the decisive
victory.

Spirit winners Mythago did everything expected of a Spirit winning team,
even down to cleaning their host house, washing up, cooking dinner,
buying chocolate & a crate of beer, Random Fling’s Social Sec got a touch 
of his own treatment.  Nice one girls…

Big thanks to everyone who came, especially those who brought friends.
Tom MdC, Jim (bad elf), Nicki, Big Tom, Big Tim, Dave, Big L, Oscar, Big
Boy, Majestic, TNTUUS, Notts Council, Ben at The Park &  Nicola(I still
owe you dinner).

le Shark@FlyghtClub.com
Nottingham Ultimate Disc

Disc-laimer... 
Just in case i got it wrong (as i'm known to) soz.
If its about the final positions, please let me know.




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Dear all,
=20
Thank you for all the responses I have had so far for our little event =
in
the second city. I can confirm that the following teams are entered:
=20
MMJ
Flyght Club
The Airforce
Mwnci See
Chuft
Sublime
Baboom
Jesters
Uriel
Bears 1
Trigger Happy
The Fish
Purple Haze 1
WAS
+ some Slipdisc teams
=20
I also have reserve cheques from those keen people at Bears 2 and =
Purple
Haze 2. This means that I have limited space left in the tournament, =
and
plenty of teams who said they will send a cheque but haven't done so =
yet. I
am going to say that all entry cheques are to be received by the end of
2001, and if they aren't I will put the two reserve cheques into the =
event.
This is the only way I can see to be fair to the teams who have sent =
two
cheques, and to the teams who have expressed an interest.
=20
If anyone needs my address again, or phone numbers, then they are at =
the
bottom of this e-mail. If anyone needs to get in contact with me via =
e-mail,
then send the e-mails to: andrew@godbers.freeserve.co.uk
<mailto:andrew@godbers.freeserve.co.uk> .
The final details for the tournament will be available in the New Year.
=20
Thank you again for your time
=20
Andy Godber
Slipdisc=20
=20
 -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Godber [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]
Sent: 07 December 2001 13:50
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Cc: Slipdisc Mailing List (E-mail)
Subject: Brand new Birmingham Tournament for Spring 2002



Ladies and Gentlemen,=20

I would like to take this brief opportunity to welcome you all to take =
part
in the Birmingham 2002 Indoor Frisbee Tournament: The Great Barr Crawl. =
This
event will be taking place in our new 2 pitch venue at Great Barr =
Leisure
Centre, North Birmingham on the weekend of 9th/10th March. (I have been
assured that this is not Nationals weekend) The event will have 16 =
available
team slots for you all to apply for, and will be available at the =
bargain
price of =A370 per team. The event will probably run until 7pm on the
Saturday, and until 5:30pm on the Sunday night, and will be the perfect
opportunity to polish those indoor skills for the final tournaments of =
the
season.

If you would like to enter the tournament, then get the cheque in the =
post
as soon as possible, made payable to 'Slipdisc' and sent to the address
below. It would be useful for you to e-mail me as well, so that we can
establish an easy contact, but to re-use a usual sentiment: "We won't =
let
you in without the money."

31, Fenton Road=20
Acocks Green=20
Birmingham=20
B27 6HY=20

There may be some form of accommodation available in our fair city, and =
we
will be able to fill these details nearer the time.

___________________________________=20
Andrew Godber=20
Slipdisc=20
E-mail: andrew.godber@arup.com=20
Home: 0121 706 2090=20
Mobile: 07733 426124=20


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>Dear 
all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>Thank 
you for all the responses I have had so far for our little event in the second 
city. I can confirm that the following teams are entered:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>MMJ</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>Flyght 
Club</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>The 
Airforce</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>Mwnci 
See</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>Chuft</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>Sublime</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>Baboom</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>Jesters</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>Uriel</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>Bears 
1</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>Trigger Happy</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>The 
Fish</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>Purple 
Haze 1</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>WAS</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>+ some 
Slipdisc teams</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>I also 
have reserve cheques from those keen people at Bears 2 and Purple Haze 2. This 
means that I have&nbsp;limited space left in the tournament, and plenty of teams 
who said they will send a cheque but haven't done so yet. I am going to say that 
all entry cheques are to be received by the end of 2001, and if they aren't I 
will put the two reserve cheques into the event. This is the only way I can see 
to be fair to the teams who have sent two cheques, and to the teams who have 
expressed an interest.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>If 
anyone needs my address again, or phone numbers, then they are at the bottom of 
this e-mail. If anyone needs to get in contact with me via e-mail, then send the 
e-mails to: <A 
href="mailto:andrew@godbers.freeserve.co.uk">andrew@godbers.freeserve.co.uk</A>.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>The 
final details for the tournament will be available in the New 
Year.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001>Thank 
you again for your time</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff>Andy Godber</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=887592908-20122001><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff>Slipdisc</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=887592908-20122001>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
Andrew Godber [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 07 December 2001 
13:50<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk<BR><B>Cc:</B> Slipdisc Mailing 
List (E-mail)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Brand new Birmingham Tournament for Spring 
2002<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ladies and Gentlemen,</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would like to take this brief opportunity to 
  welcome you all to take part in the Birmingham 2002 Indoor Frisbee Tournament: 
  The Great Barr Crawl. This event will be taking place in our new 2 pitch venue 
  at Great Barr Leisure Centre, North Birmingham on the weekend of 9th/10th 
  March. (I have been assured that this is not Nationals weekend) The event will 
  have 16 available team slots for you all to apply for, and will be available 
  at the bargain price of £70 per team. The event will probably run until 7pm on 
  the Saturday, and until 5:30pm on the Sunday night, and will be the perfect 
  opportunity to polish those indoor skills for the final tournaments of the 
  season.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you would like to enter the tournament, then get 
  the cheque in the post as soon as possible, made payable to 'Slipdisc' and 
  sent to the address below. It would be useful for you to e-mail me as well, so 
  that we can establish an easy contact, but to re-use a usual sentiment: "We 
  won't let you in without the money."</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>31, Fenton Road</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>Acocks Green</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Birmingham</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>B27 6HY</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>There may be some form of accommodation available 
  in our fair city, and we will be able to fill these details nearer the 
  time.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 
  size=2>___________________________________</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#000000>Andrew Godber</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 
  size=2>Slipdisc</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>E-mail: 
  andrew.godber@arup.com</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Home: 0121 706 
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PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO ME (Chris Hughes):

Message from Suze Penfold:

Dear all,
I have been in Aberdeen for one week with KC and have
decided his running is just too girly so I am looking
for some where to stay in Edinburgh. Actually I have
just got a job there and don't want to commute 3 hours
each way. If anyone can offer me a place to stay
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please let me know - I need something by 7th Jan. 

Cheers,
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___________________________________________________________

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The Great Barr Crawl is now full up of teams to the brim. The final list of
entrants is as follows:

MMJ
Flyght Club
The Airforce
Mwnci See
Chuft
Sublime Patriots
Baboom
Jesters
Uriel
Bears 1
Trigger Happy
The Fish
Purple Haze
WAS
Block, Stack
Kayama Maya
Whiplash
+Slipdisc

Apologies for the reserve teams, and I will send your cheques back to you
this week. Thank you all for your interest, and I will send full details to
you nearer the time. Have a good Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Andy Godber
Slipdisc

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For those interested Si weekes replied as follows. He also said that he is 
away now till 6th Jan so won't be able to respond again till then.
wigsy

>Hi Wigsy,
>
>Sorry about the delay, but I have had no internet
>access until now.
>
>I see the  tour and nationals as similar to the
>Premiership and the FA Cup. I think the Tour is now
>undoubtedly the premier event of the season and
>nationals plays second fiddle. Personally I think once
>the tour is finshed, nationals is an excellent way to
>end the season with a highly compettive tournament.
>Now if the majority disagree then I am happy to change
>it, but I am not going to alter the current set up off
>my own back. If you would like to start a Britdisc
>debate on the subject then I would be interested to
>hear what the consensus of opinion is.
>
>Hope you had a good Christmas.
>See you in the New Year,
>
>Si Weeks
>
>--- Christian Nistri <wigsy22@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi
>Si,
> > don't know if any one else has mentioned anything to
> > you directly but i
> > wanted to ask why it has been proposed to relegate
> > Nationals to the last
> > weekend of the season again. As long as i have been
> > playing people have been
> > moaning about the weather for what should be the
> > premiere tournament of the
> > season, and i was sort of hoping that with the
> > advent of the BUA we could
> > break with tradition and make a bit more effort for
> > Nationals. I fully
> > understand the weekend on/weekend off theory, but I
> > would hope that people
> > would make the effort to attend Nationals whenever
> > it was. That way we may
> > avoid a final that finishes 2 upwind scores each. As
> > always, open to general
> > discussion.
> > cheers
> > wigsy
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> > >Reply-To: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> > >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > >Subject: BUA Diary 2002
> > >Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:24:55 +0000
> > >
> > >Hello everyone,
> > >
> > >In making my debut as DoC I would like to provide
> > you all with a list of
> > >the
> > >proposed dates for all the main tournaments next
> > year. This list is by no
> > >means
> > >all encompassing, but it provides the bare minimum
> > of events that I would
> > >like
> > >to see happen. It provides three purposes:
> > >
> > >(i) It allows you to make tentative entries in your
> > diaries for 2002.
> > >(ii)    It allows those people who wish to bid to
> > host one of these events
> > >to
> > >know which is the most appropriate weekend.
> > >(iii)   It allows those people who want to plan
> > additional tournaments to
> > >work
> > >around the proposed schedule for the main events.
> > Having said that with the
> > >number of players and teams increasing so much year
> > on year, there is no
> > >reason
> > >why we cannot have two or even three tournaments
> > running on any one weekend
> > >next
> > >year.
> > >
> > >With regards to some of the tournaments listed
> > below, particularly the open
> > >tour
> > >events, I have already been approached by people
> > who have booked venues for
> > >particular dates next year. Now whilst I want to be
> > able to confirm to
> > >these
> > >people as soon as possible if their location will
> > be the chosen venue I
> > >also
> > >would like to give everyone the opportunity to bid
> > for any event/s.
> > >
> > >Therefore I am requesting that anyone interested in
> > hosting one of the
> > >events
> > >listed below should email or write to me with an
> > official bid within one
> > >month
> > >of today's date (Monday 7th January). Included in
> > this bid should be:
> > >- Geographical location
> > >- Quality of venue (to include a photo of outdoor
> > venues that have not
> > >previously been used)
> > >- Number of pitches available (and dimensions for
> > indoors)
> > >- Cost per team (you will be more or less held to
> > this)
> > >- Dates that the facilities are available
> > >- Accommodation provision
> > >- Catering facilities
> > >- Additional services (e.g. first aid, masseurs,
> > physios, party)
> > >
> > >Please send all bids to:
> > >Simon Weeks
> > >23 Shepards Close
> > >Fareham
> > >PO14 3AJ
> > >
> > >Or email them to bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk. Do not use
> > this email address, as it
> > >is my
> > >work email.
> > >
> > >Rather than email me if you do have any questions
> > please give me a call (I
> > >can
> > >always call you back to save your phone bill) on
> > 07976 216135.
> > >
> > >WARNING: These are only the preferred dates for
> > next years' events. Do not
> > >do
> > >anything drastic like book days off work for these
> > events.
> > >
> > >1. 05/06 Jan
> > >2. 12/13 Jan
> > >3. 19/20 Jan
> > >4. 26/27 Jan
> > >5. 02/03 Feb Co-ed Indoor Qualifiers
> > >6. 09/10 Feb
> > >7. 16/17 Feb Student Indoor Finals/ Womens' Indoor
> > Finals
> > >8. 23/24 Feb Open Indoor Qualifiers
> > >9. 02/03 Mar Junior Indoor Finals
> > >10. 09/10 Mar Co-ed Indoor Finals
> > >11. 16/17 Mar Open Indoor Finals
> > >12. 23/24 Mar
> > >13. 30/31 Mar Rimini (Overseas)
> > >14. 06/07 Apr
> > >15. 13/14 Apr Open Tour I
> > >16. 20/21 Apr
> > >17. 27/28 Apr Co-ed Tour I
> > >18. 04/05 May Student Outdoors/ Bruges (Overseas)
> > >19. 11/12 May Rotterdam (Overseas)
> > >20. 18/19 May Open Tour II
> > >21. 25/26 May
> > >22. 01/02 Jun Womens' Nationals
> > >23. 08/09 Jun Co-ed Tour II
> > >24. 15/16 Jun Junior Nationals
> > >25. 22/23 Jun Tour III
> > >26. 29/30 Jun
> > >27. 06/07 Jul Co-ed Tour III
> > >28. 13/14 Jul
> > >29. 20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
> > >30. 27/28 Jul
> > >31. 03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
> > >32. 10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
> > >33. 17/18 Aug
> > >34. 25/26 Aug British Open
> > >35. 31/1 Sep
> > >36. 07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
> > >37. 14/15 Sep
> > >38.21/22 Sep Open Nationals
> > >39. 28/29 Sep
> > >
> > >Thanks everyone,
> > >
> > >Si Weeks
> > >Director of Competitions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >****************************************************************
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
<P>Hello all you crazy ultimate peoples!</P>
<P>Just a note to say that the Mythago indoor tournament is on the 9/10 of FEBRUARY 2002 and not march, so there isn't a clash with the super douper&nbsp;slipdisc tournament.&nbsp; </P>
<P>There are a few places left.&nbsp; see below for details.</P>
<P>Lewis</P>
<P>of Mythago<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>----Original Message Follows---- 
<DIV></DIV>From: "Lewis McFadyen" <LEWISMCFADYEN@HOTMAIL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>Subject: MYTHAGO 9/10 FEB 2002 
<DIV></DIV>
<P>Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:31:28 </P>
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<DIV></DIV>Hello out there to all you frisbee-ers out there!!!! 
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<DIV></DIV>The University of Bristol's Ultimate team, MYTHAGO is holding an 
<DIV></DIV>OPEN indoor tournament on 9/10 of FEBRUARY 2002 in association with 
<DIV></DIV>The British Heart Foundation. So we would love to see lots of you playing 
<DIV></DIV>some quality ultimate down here!! 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>We have places for 17 teams. The cost per team will be £90 so we can raise 
<DIV></DIV>a good amount for the BHF!!! 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>If you would be interested, then please send your cheques (payable to UBUFC 
<DIV></DIV>- and say who they're from and a phone no.) to me; 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Lewis McFadyen 
<DIV></DIV>23b Arthur Road 
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<DIV></DIV>Kent 
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>It's first come first served, and we cannot hold places until we see those 
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<DIV></DIV>Any queries, my number is 07855527983 
<DIV></DIV>Accomodation might be available if you ask nicely! 
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Hi

This is note to the people who were aware of the damage that I sustained at Southampton Indoors.

I would like to thank you for caring and worrying about me. I left hospital at 6 o'clock on Xmas Eve, they were not to pleased but they didn't have much choice in the matter. Your cards, presents and phone calls were well received and made a great difference to my mental health and stability.

I am now home, still in discomfort but on the road to recovery. I have been informed that it will be 6/8 wks before I can bear weight and around 6/8 months before I can do the same amount of damage again.

I would like to personally send thanks to Wayne Retter for throwing that shit as I now have cups of Tea made roughly every 30 min and I dont have to return to work for the forseeable future. Cheers Wayne and keep up the good work.

Thanks

Matt 

P.S. Im aiming to put a bid in for being the fat brother by about March

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<P>Hi</P>
<P>This is&nbsp;note to the people who were aware of the damage that I sustained at Southampton Indoors.</P>
<P>I would like to thank you for caring and worrying about me. I&nbsp;left hospital at 6 o'clock on Xmas Eve, they were not to pleased but they didn't have much choice in the matter. Your cards, presents and phone calls were well received and made a great difference to my mental health and stability.</P>
<P>I am now home, still in discomfort but on the road to recovery. I have been informed that it will be 6/8 wks before I can bear weight and around 6/8 months before I can do the same amount of damage again.</P>
<P>I would like to personally send thanks to Wayne Retter for throwing that shit as I now have cups of Tea made roughly every 30 min and I dont have to return to work for the forseeable future. Cheers Wayne and keep up the good work.</P>
<P>Thanks</P>
<P>Matt </P>
<P>P.S. Im aiming to put a bid in for being the fat brother by about March</P>
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Hi all,

Sorry to use Britdisc for this purpose.

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From: koffi biwase <biwase_koffi3@yahoo.com>
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ATTN: THE PRESIDENT/CEO 

RE: TRANSFER OF US$25.5M FOR INVESTMENT.

 I am Mr. Koffi Biwase, Director of Delivery
/Operations Assistance, 2000 Security Organizations,
Cotonou West Africa. Our firm is a Security Companyof
high repute with years of outstanding services to the
people of Africa especially top government officials
and military leaders here in Africa. I have resolved
to contact you through this medium based on business
proposal that will be of mutual benefit to both ofus.
I have not discussed this transaction with anybody
because it is of top secret. To be explicit and
straight to the point, sometime early 1997 a reputable
client of ours deposited a consignment in our
company's vault for safekeepingand since then our
client has failed to come forward to claim his
consignment, which has accumulated a considerable
amount of money in demurrage. Consequently, in our bid
to contact this client to redeem the demurrage which
his consignment had accumulated we discovered that our
client was the former president of the Federal
Republic of Zaire,who died of illness after he was
dethroned in the same year the consignment was
entrusted into our care. Since the death of our client
President Mobutou Seseko, none of his benefactors has
come forward to claim the consignment with us, which
means that none of his relative or aids had any
knowledge of this consignment. Hence, out of curiosity
I decided to secretly open the two boxes that our
client deposited in our vault and to my surprise I
discovered that the two boxes that were registered as
treasure by our client actually contained a
considerable amount of money in United State Dollars
amounting to about US$25.5M since this development I
have been nursing plans secretly. I also found out
from enquiries and foreign mediathat our late client
siphoned a lot of money from his country while he was
in office as Head of State. Itis my conviction that
the consignment in our vault was part of the money in
our care. I am now soliciting your noble assistance to
assist me in moving this boxes out of affiliate in
holland  which is where the boxes are presently
through my arrangement for immediate investment with
your assistance. Being a Director of Delivery and
Operations I do not fully have unlimited powers to
take away these boxes hence, I had a recourse to third
party.

I await your prompt response through my email address
for more directives.

Yours faithfully, 

Mr. Koffi Biwase.



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Explanation:

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From: "Helen Myers" <helen_myers@hotmail.com>
To: canals@racsa.co.cr, B.Mitchell@lmu.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk,
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Subject: VIRUS ALERT - READ AND TAKE ACTION
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:41:12 -0500
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This is a serious e-mail. I received an e-mail from a friend of mine. If it 
is a virus and not a prank, it is was not recognised by our  Antivirus or 
blocked by it. Please check your hard drive for the below virus. 
Instructions are below to delete the virus if I have forwarded it on to you. 
This virus lies dormant for 14 days and then kills your hard drive.  Here is 
what to do. If you follow the instructions and then see that you have the 
virus, you need to send a similar e-mail to everyone in your address book.

Remove the virus by following these steps:
1. Go to "start." Then to "find" or "search" (depending on your computer.)
2. In the "search for files or folders", type sulfnbk.exe --this is the name 
of the virus.
3. In the "look in" section, make sure you are searching Drive C.
4. Hit "search" or "find."
5. If your search finds this file, it will be an ugly blackish icon  that 
will have the name sulfnbk.exe. DO NOT OPEN IT!
6. Right click on the file--go down to "delete" and left click.
7. You will be asked if you want to send the file to the recycling bin--say 
"yes."
8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double click on the
Recycle Bin.
9. Right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again, or else empty the entire
bin.
10. If you found the virus on your system, send this or a similar e-mail to 
all in your address book because this is how it is transferred.

Sorry for the trouble!

I had this message sent to me and I found I had the virus.  It is now cured.

Happy New Year!!!

Helen


"Success is getting what you want.
Happiness is wanting what you get."


292 42nd Avenue
St Peterburg Beach
Florida 33706

727 363 4090 (h)
727 415 1751 (c)
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From: "Lewis Glover" <loopy1019@hotmail.com>
To: helenmyers@bigfoot.com, canals@racsa.co.cr, B.Mitchell@lmu.ac.uk,
   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, dianaworman@hotmail.com, huck2eric@hotmail.com,
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Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT - READ AND TAKE ACTION
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i found the following at:
http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99084&

AVERT HOAX Notice!!

McAfee AVERT Labs would like to inform you of a new email HOAX.

This email message is just a HOAX. Although, the SULFNBK.EXE file may become 
infected by a number of valid viruses (most commonly W32/Magistr@MM, the 
details of this HOAX message are not based on actual events.

We are advising users who receive the email to delete the message and DO NOT 
pass it on as this is how an email HOAX propagates.

SULFNBK.EXE is a Microsoft Windows utility that is used to restore long file 
names

Below is the actual text from the message that may be received via email. 
There are numerous variations on these messages.

A VIRUS could be in your computer files now, dormant but will become active 
on June 1. Try not to USE your Computer on June 1st. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW 
TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. No Virus software can detect 
it. It will become active on June 1, 2001. It might be too late by then. It 
wipes out all files and folders on the hard drive. This virus travels thru 
E-mail and migrates to the 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get 
rid of it off of your computer, do the following.
Go to the "START" button.
Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH"
Go to "FILES & FOLDERS"
Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" drive.
Type in: SULFNBK.EXE
Begin search.

If it finds it, highlight it. Do not double click or file will automatically 
open.
Go to 'File' and delete it.
Close the find Dialog box
Open the Recycle Bin
Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin
You should be safe.

The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you have sent ANY E-mail to in 
the past few months. Many major companies have found this virus on their 
computers. Please help your colleagues and friends !

DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE and NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT 
BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST.

WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!!

thought you should know

Lewis

>From: "Helen Myers" <helen_myers@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: helenmyers@bigfoot.com
>To: canals@racsa.co.cr, B.Mitchell@lmu.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk,   
>dianaworman@hotmail.com, huck2eric@hotmail.com, fer3@bigfoot.com,   
>jo@gnome25.freeserve.co.uk, mankow@hotmail.com, RJSaunders@compuserve.com,  
>  99946034@mmu.ac.uk, Paul.Schuricht@usafa.af.mil, tobybrown@hotmail.com
>Subject: VIRUS ALERT - READ AND TAKE ACTION
>Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:41:12 -0500
>
>
>This is a serious e-mail. I received an e-mail from a friend of mine. If it
>is a virus and not a prank, it is was not recognised by our  Antivirus or
>blocked by it. Please check your hard drive for the below virus.
>Instructions are below to delete the virus if I have forwarded it on to 
>you.
>This virus lies dormant for 14 days and then kills your hard drive.  Here 
>is
>what to do. If you follow the instructions and then see that you have the
>virus, you need to send a similar e-mail to everyone in your address book.
>
>Remove the virus by following these steps:
>1. Go to "start." Then to "find" or "search" (depending on your computer.)
>2. In the "search for files or folders", type sulfnbk.exe --this is the 
>name
>of the virus.
>3. In the "look in" section, make sure you are searching Drive C.
>4. Hit "search" or "find."
>5. If your search finds this file, it will be an ugly blackish icon  that
>will have the name sulfnbk.exe. DO NOT OPEN IT!
>6. Right click on the file--go down to "delete" and left click.
>7. You will be asked if you want to send the file to the recycling bin--say
>"yes."
>8. Go to your desktop (where all your icons are) and double click on the
>Recycle Bin.
>9. Right click on sulfnbk.exe and delete again, or else empty the entire
>bin.
>10. If you found the virus on your system, send this or a similar e-mail to
>all in your address book because this is how it is transferred.
>
>Sorry for the trouble!
>
>I had this message sent to me and I found I had the virus.  It is now 
>cured.
>
>Happy New Year!!!
>
>Helen
>
>
>"Success is getting what you want.
>Happiness is wanting what you get."
>
>
>292 42nd Avenue
>St Peterburg Beach
>Florida 33706
>
>727 363 4090 (h)
>727 415 1751 (c)
>941 554 2060 (w)
>
>
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
>




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Also found at the Sophos site

20 December 2001

SULFNBK: Virus or hoax... or both?
Sophos has received a large number of calls from users concerned about a
virus known as SULFNBK or SULFNBK.EXE.

There is a warning message being distributed around the net (in various
languages) telling users to search their hard drives for a file called
SULFNBK.EXE. If they find it - the warning tells them - delete it because it
is infected by a virus which may trigger on 1 June (other versions say 25
May).

Sophos advises users to treat the warning with scepticism.

Many computers do have a legitimate uninfected version of SULFNBK.EXE on
them because it is a program which comes with Windows 95/98 to backup and
restore long filenames. Deleting the file may in fact cause your computer
system serious problems.

The confusion is compounded, however, by the W32/Magistr-A virus which is
capable of emailing infected copies of SULFNBK.EXE to innocent users. This
is probably how the scare started.

Sophos offers users confused by the hoax warning and the virus, the
following advice:

If you receive an unsolicited executable file in your email (such as
SULFNBK.EXE), simply delete the email. You should never launch or open
unsolicited executable code on your computer.
Existence of a file called SULFNBK.EXE on your hard drive is not evidence in
itself of a virus infection. The best way to check for a virus infection is
with anti-virus software.
Run a quality anti-virus product and keep it updated to protect against the
latest threats.
Do not pass on virus warnings to all of your friends. Instead, check the
facts at an anti-virus website, or forward the warning to the person in your
company who is responsible for virus protection so they can decide if it is
valid.

More info can be found at

http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/sulfnbk.html

Chris W

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From: Nicole Roberts <maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Phil Cooper's phone number
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Sorry to abuse the list like this, but I lost my
mobile (therefore all my phone numbers...) and I'm on
the hunt for Phil Cooper's mobile number

If anyone has it can you please mail it to me 

Cheers

Nicole

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>If you would like to start a Britdisc
>debate on the subject then I would be interested to
>hear what the consensus of opinion is.

Wigsy's right - we all hate playing in the ridiculous conditions we often
get at Nationals. Which seems wrong given that this is the 'Open' Nationals
and the most important single event to the majority of the UK Ultimate
community. Si is right that it's a great way to end the season and he draws
a good parallel between Nationals and the FA Cup, but I'm sure even the FA
wouldn't arrange the FA Cup Final when they thought there was a good chance
the weather would be atrocious.

Having it at least another one, maybe two weeks earlier would increase the
chances of good weather. Would it not make sense to either swap it with an
event which, though great fun I'm sure, is of considerably less importance
to the majority of players (the Co-ed Nationals)? Or to move them both
forward and bump the British Open from the calendar (surely an event without
overwhelming portfolio if there ever was one)? Or just squeeze them up
tighter so that Nationals is the weekend after Co-ed; those playing at both
are obviously psycho enough that playing back-to-back weekends will probably
make them even happier. You could even squeeze the Open, Co-ed Nationals and
Nationals onto consecutive weekends, or have the Open then the Co-Ed
Nationals the weekend after and Nationals two weekends later. Anything to
have Nationals even one weekend earlier than 21/22 Sept! We may even get sun
that way :-)

My first tuppence-worth for 2002, Happy New Year to all frisbee players
everywhere! 

Silver Bear
CU#1

PS If ther

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Nistri [mailto:wigsy22@hotmail.com]
Sent: 27 December 2001 12:20
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Fwd: Re: BUA Diary 2002


For those interested Si weekes replied as follows. He also said that he is 
away now till 6th Jan so won't be able to respond again till then.
wigsy

>Hi Wigsy,
>
>Sorry about the delay, but I have had no internet
>access until now.
>
>I see the  tour and nationals as similar to the
>Premiership and the FA Cup. I think the Tour is now
>undoubtedly the premier event of the season and
>nationals plays second fiddle. Personally I think once
>the tour is finshed, nationals is an excellent way to
>end the season with a highly compettive tournament.
>Now if the majority disagree then I am happy to change
>it, but I am not going to alter the current set up off
>my own back. If you would like to start a Britdisc
>debate on the subject then I would be interested to
>hear what the consensus of opinion is.
>
>Hope you had a good Christmas.
>See you in the New Year,
>
>Si Weeks
>
>--- Christian Nistri <wigsy22@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi
>Si,
> > don't know if any one else has mentioned anything to
> > you directly but i
> > wanted to ask why it has been proposed to relegate
> > Nationals to the last
> > weekend of the season again. As long as i have been
> > playing people have been
> > moaning about the weather for what should be the
> > premiere tournament of the
> > season, and i was sort of hoping that with the
> > advent of the BUA we could
> > break with tradition and make a bit more effort for
> > Nationals. I fully
> > understand the weekend on/weekend off theory, but I
> > would hope that people
> > would make the effort to attend Nationals whenever
> > it was. That way we may
> > avoid a final that finishes 2 upwind scores each. As
> > always, open to general
> > discussion.
> > cheers
> > wigsy
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> > >Reply-To: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> > >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > >Subject: BUA Diary 2002
> > >Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:24:55 +0000
> > >
> > >Hello everyone,
> > >
> > >In making my debut as DoC I would like to provide
> > you all with a list of
> > >the
> > >proposed dates for all the main tournaments next
> > year. This list is by no
> > >means
> > >all encompassing, but it provides the bare minimum
> > of events that I would
> > >like
> > >to see happen. It provides three purposes:
> > >
> > >(i) It allows you to make tentative entries in your
> > diaries for 2002.
> > >(ii)    It allows those people who wish to bid to
> > host one of these events
> > >to
> > >know which is the most appropriate weekend.
> > >(iii)   It allows those people who want to plan
> > additional tournaments to
> > >work
> > >around the proposed schedule for the main events.
> > Having said that with the
> > >number of players and teams increasing so much year
> > on year, there is no
> > >reason
> > >why we cannot have two or even three tournaments
> > running on any one weekend
> > >next
> > >year.
> > >
> > >With regards to some of the tournaments listed
> > below, particularly the open
> > >tour
> > >events, I have already been approached by people
> > who have booked venues for
> > >particular dates next year. Now whilst I want to be
> > able to confirm to
> > >these
> > >people as soon as possible if their location will
> > be the chosen venue I
> > >also
> > >would like to give everyone the opportunity to bid
> > for any event/s.
> > >
> > >Therefore I am requesting that anyone interested in
> > hosting one of the
> > >events
> > >listed below should email or write to me with an
> > official bid within one
> > >month
> > >of today's date (Monday 7th January). Included in
> > this bid should be:
> > >- Geographical location
> > >- Quality of venue (to include a photo of outdoor
> > venues that have not
> > >previously been used)
> > >- Number of pitches available (and dimensions for
> > indoors)
> > >- Cost per team (you will be more or less held to
> > this)
> > >- Dates that the facilities are available
> > >- Accommodation provision
> > >- Catering facilities
> > >- Additional services (e.g. first aid, masseurs,
> > physios, party)
> > >
> > >Please send all bids to:
> > >Simon Weeks
> > >23 Shepards Close
> > >Fareham
> > >PO14 3AJ
> > >
> > >Or email them to bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk. Do not use
> > this email address, as it
> > >is my
> > >work email.
> > >
> > >Rather than email me if you do have any questions
> > please give me a call (I
> > >can
> > >always call you back to save your phone bill) on
> > 07976 216135.
> > >
> > >WARNING: These are only the preferred dates for
> > next years' events. Do not
> > >do
> > >anything drastic like book days off work for these
> > events.
> > >
> > >1. 05/06 Jan
> > >2. 12/13 Jan
> > >3. 19/20 Jan
> > >4. 26/27 Jan
> > >5. 02/03 Feb Co-ed Indoor Qualifiers
> > >6. 09/10 Feb
> > >7. 16/17 Feb Student Indoor Finals/ Womens' Indoor
> > Finals
> > >8. 23/24 Feb Open Indoor Qualifiers
> > >9. 02/03 Mar Junior Indoor Finals
> > >10. 09/10 Mar Co-ed Indoor Finals
> > >11. 16/17 Mar Open Indoor Finals
> > >12. 23/24 Mar
> > >13. 30/31 Mar Rimini (Overseas)
> > >14. 06/07 Apr
> > >15. 13/14 Apr Open Tour I
> > >16. 20/21 Apr
> > >17. 27/28 Apr Co-ed Tour I
> > >18. 04/05 May Student Outdoors/ Bruges (Overseas)
> > >19. 11/12 May Rotterdam (Overseas)
> > >20. 18/19 May Open Tour II
> > >21. 25/26 May
> > >22. 01/02 Jun Womens' Nationals
> > >23. 08/09 Jun Co-ed Tour II
> > >24. 15/16 Jun Junior Nationals
> > >25. 22/23 Jun Tour III
> > >26. 29/30 Jun
> > >27. 06/07 Jul Co-ed Tour III
> > >28. 13/14 Jul
> > >29. 20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
> > >30. 27/28 Jul
> > >31. 03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
> > >32. 10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
> > >33. 17/18 Aug
> > >34. 25/26 Aug British Open
> > >35. 31/1 Sep
> > >36. 07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
> > >37. 14/15 Sep
> > >38.21/22 Sep Open Nationals
> > >39. 28/29 Sep
> > >
> > >Thanks everyone,
> > >
> > >Si Weeks
> > >Director of Competitions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >****************************************************************
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> > the author
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> > >or any of its subsidiary companies.  Unauthorised
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Nationals should be moved to earlier in the year.  If nobody defends its
current position, shouldn't we just move it?

Milk
teamshark

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com]
Sent: 02 January 2002 13:55
To: 'Christian Nistri'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: Re: BUA Diary 2002


>If you would like to start a Britdisc
>debate on the subject then I would be interested to
>hear what the consensus of opinion is.

Wigsy's right - we all hate playing in the ridiculous conditions we often
get at Nationals. Which seems wrong given that this is the 'Open' Nationals
and the most important single event to the majority of the UK Ultimate
community. Si is right that it's a great way to end the season and he draws
a good parallel between Nationals and the FA Cup, but I'm sure even the FA
wouldn't arrange the FA Cup Final when they thought there was a good chance
the weather would be atrocious.

Having it at least another one, maybe two weeks earlier would increase the
chances of good weather. Would it not make sense to either swap it with an
event which, though great fun I'm sure, is of considerably less importance
to the majority of players (the Co-ed Nationals)? Or to move them both
forward and bump the British Open from the calendar (surely an event without
overwhelming portfolio if there ever was one)? Or just squeeze them up
tighter so that Nationals is the weekend after Co-ed; those playing at both
are obviously psycho enough that playing back-to-back weekends will probably
make them even happier. You could even squeeze the Open, Co-ed Nationals and
Nationals onto consecutive weekends, or have the Open then the Co-Ed
Nationals the weekend after and Nationals two weekends later. Anything to
have Nationals even one weekend earlier than 21/22 Sept! We may even get sun
that way :-)

My first tuppence-worth for 2002, Happy New Year to all frisbee players
everywhere! 

Silver Bear
CU#1

PS If ther

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Nistri [mailto:wigsy22@hotmail.com]
Sent: 27 December 2001 12:20
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Fwd: Re: BUA Diary 2002


For those interested Si weekes replied as follows. He also said that he is 
away now till 6th Jan so won't be able to respond again till then.
wigsy

>Hi Wigsy,
>
>Sorry about the delay, but I have had no internet
>access until now.
>
>I see the  tour and nationals as similar to the
>Premiership and the FA Cup. I think the Tour is now
>undoubtedly the premier event of the season and
>nationals plays second fiddle. Personally I think once
>the tour is finshed, nationals is an excellent way to
>end the season with a highly compettive tournament.
>Now if the majority disagree then I am happy to change
>it, but I am not going to alter the current set up off
>my own back. If you would like to start a Britdisc
>debate on the subject then I would be interested to
>hear what the consensus of opinion is.
>
>Hope you had a good Christmas.
>See you in the New Year,
>
>Si Weeks
>
>--- Christian Nistri <wigsy22@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi
>Si,
> > don't know if any one else has mentioned anything to
> > you directly but i
> > wanted to ask why it has been proposed to relegate
> > Nationals to the last
> > weekend of the season again. As long as i have been
> > playing people have been
> > moaning about the weather for what should be the
> > premiere tournament of the
> > season, and i was sort of hoping that with the
> > advent of the BUA we could
> > break with tradition and make a bit more effort for
> > Nationals. I fully
> > understand the weekend on/weekend off theory, but I
> > would hope that people
> > would make the effort to attend Nationals whenever
> > it was. That way we may
> > avoid a final that finishes 2 upwind scores each. As
> > always, open to general
> > discussion.
> > cheers
> > wigsy
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> > >Reply-To: Simon_Weeks@wincanton.co.uk
> > >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > >Subject: BUA Diary 2002
> > >Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:24:55 +0000
> > >
> > >Hello everyone,
> > >
> > >In making my debut as DoC I would like to provide
> > you all with a list of
> > >the
> > >proposed dates for all the main tournaments next
> > year. This list is by no
> > >means
> > >all encompassing, but it provides the bare minimum
> > of events that I would
> > >like
> > >to see happen. It provides three purposes:
> > >
> > >(i) It allows you to make tentative entries in your
> > diaries for 2002.
> > >(ii)    It allows those people who wish to bid to
> > host one of these events
> > >to
> > >know which is the most appropriate weekend.
> > >(iii)   It allows those people who want to plan
> > additional tournaments to
> > >work
> > >around the proposed schedule for the main events.
> > Having said that with the
> > >number of players and teams increasing so much year
> > on year, there is no
> > >reason
> > >why we cannot have two or even three tournaments
> > running on any one weekend
> > >next
> > >year.
> > >
> > >With regards to some of the tournaments listed
> > below, particularly the open
> > >tour
> > >events, I have already been approached by people
> > who have booked venues for
> > >particular dates next year. Now whilst I want to be
> > able to confirm to
> > >these
> > >people as soon as possible if their location will
> > be the chosen venue I
> > >also
> > >would like to give everyone the opportunity to bid
> > for any event/s.
> > >
> > >Therefore I am requesting that anyone interested in
> > hosting one of the
> > >events
> > >listed below should email or write to me with an
> > official bid within one
> > >month
> > >of today's date (Monday 7th January). Included in
> > this bid should be:
> > >- Geographical location
> > >- Quality of venue (to include a photo of outdoor
> > venues that have not
> > >previously been used)
> > >- Number of pitches available (and dimensions for
> > indoors)
> > >- Cost per team (you will be more or less held to
> > this)
> > >- Dates that the facilities are available
> > >- Accommodation provision
> > >- Catering facilities
> > >- Additional services (e.g. first aid, masseurs,
> > physios, party)
> > >
> > >Please send all bids to:
> > >Simon Weeks
> > >23 Shepards Close
> > >Fareham
> > >PO14 3AJ
> > >
> > >Or email them to bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk. Do not use
> > this email address, as it
> > >is my
> > >work email.
> > >
> > >Rather than email me if you do have any questions
> > please give me a call (I
> > >can
> > >always call you back to save your phone bill) on
> > 07976 216135.
> > >
> > >WARNING: These are only the preferred dates for
> > next years' events. Do not
> > >do
> > >anything drastic like book days off work for these
> > events.
> > >
> > >1. 05/06 Jan
> > >2. 12/13 Jan
> > >3. 19/20 Jan
> > >4. 26/27 Jan
> > >5. 02/03 Feb Co-ed Indoor Qualifiers
> > >6. 09/10 Feb
> > >7. 16/17 Feb Student Indoor Finals/ Womens' Indoor
> > Finals
> > >8. 23/24 Feb Open Indoor Qualifiers
> > >9. 02/03 Mar Junior Indoor Finals
> > >10. 09/10 Mar Co-ed Indoor Finals
> > >11. 16/17 Mar Open Indoor Finals
> > >12. 23/24 Mar
> > >13. 30/31 Mar Rimini (Overseas)
> > >14. 06/07 Apr
> > >15. 13/14 Apr Open Tour I
> > >16. 20/21 Apr
> > >17. 27/28 Apr Co-ed Tour I
> > >18. 04/05 May Student Outdoors/ Bruges (Overseas)
> > >19. 11/12 May Rotterdam (Overseas)
> > >20. 18/19 May Open Tour II
> > >21. 25/26 May
> > >22. 01/02 Jun Womens' Nationals
> > >23. 08/09 Jun Co-ed Tour II
> > >24. 15/16 Jun Junior Nationals
> > >25. 22/23 Jun Tour III
> > >26. 29/30 Jun
> > >27. 06/07 Jul Co-ed Tour III
> > >28. 13/14 Jul
> > >29. 20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
> > >30. 27/28 Jul
> > >31. 03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
> > >32. 10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
> > >33. 17/18 Aug
> > >34. 25/26 Aug British Open
> > >35. 31/1 Sep
> > >36. 07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
> > >37. 14/15 Sep
> > >38.21/22 Sep Open Nationals
> > >39. 28/29 Sep
> > >
> > >Thanks everyone,
> > >
> > >Si Weeks
> > >Director of Competitions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >****************************************************************
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> > confidential
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> > >contact Network Security on (44) 01454 338254 or
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I would also agree that Nationals isn't played at the right time of year.
I've seen too many finals played in horrific conditions. When a game
descends into a game against the elements, it's gone too far. We should do
what we can to lessen that risk. 

Roger said the Open doesn't have much of a portfolio. I'd agree, but that's
only because it has been a struggling event, with problems locating a
suitable venue. Given time, I would expect this to become a respected event.

Andy
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>Roger said the Open doesn't have much of a portfolio. I'd agree, but that's
>only because it has been a struggling event, with problems locating a
>suitable venue. Given time, I would expect this to become a respected
event.

True, but have you seen how packed the 2002 calendar is already? We're
getting pretty well organised now as a community, and have a damned good
schedule laid out for 2002 - maybe we should look again at whether we need a
'BUF Open'. At least discuss why we have it.

Is it the Worthington Cup of our football-analogy world? I very much doubt
Clapham would rush to enter a first team, especially as half of us will be
learning to surf on Honolulu beach that weekend :-)

I feel guilty for saying that because Nolan's a good friend and ex-teammate,
but wasn't the unique selling proposition for this event to invite our
friends from over the water to come and spend their time and Euros with us?
At a time when we didn't have as many tournaments as we do now. Couldn't we
just open ALL the tour events to any Euro teams which want to play, and host
one of those in Brighton or Eastbourne to make it easy for them (a la
Southampton)? Let's face it, the Xlr8rs are more likely to want to play a
Co-ed tour than mix it with our top 8 teams.

Sorry to complicate the discussion.

Can't wait for the first competetive tournament of the season, Winter League
#3,

Silver Bear
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Subject: Nationals move


I would also agree that Nationals isn't played at the right time of year.
I've seen too many finals played in horrific conditions. When a game
descends into a game against the elements, it's gone too far. We should do
what we can to lessen that risk. 

Roger said the Open doesn't have much of a portfolio. I'd agree, but that's
only because it has been a struggling event, with problems locating a
suitable venue. Given time, I would expect this to become a respected event.

Andy
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BD,

CURRENT PROPOSAL
20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
27/28 Jul
03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
17/18 Aug
24/25 Aug British Open
31/01 Sep
07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
14/15 Sep
21/22 Sep Open Nationals

A couple of thoughts:

(1) As much as I've enjoyed the "British Open" tournaments over the years
does it really now have any more claim to being a "UKU scheduled"
tournament than any other non-Tour outdoor tournament (e.g. Ross) - and
even if it does should we not be trying to fit it into the early season (to
mimic the sucess of the likes of Rimini & Rotterdam)?

(2)Given no other restrictions where would people ideally put Open
Nationals, how about:
20/21 Jul Open Nationals - using Open T1,2 & 3 for seedings
27/28 Jul
03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
17/18 Aug
24/25 Aug Open Tour IV
31/01 Sep
07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
14/15 Sep
21/22 Sep British Open (assuming not moved into "Spring")
... or some such variation on the same theme?
... how do the numerous teams preparing for Hawaii feel their needs are
best met?
... I'm also fairly sure the Mixed teams would like a competitive Mixed
tournament closer than a month before Hawaii?


Balti
BAF 34


                                                                                                                     
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I would also agree that Nationals isn't played at the right time of year.
I've seen too many finals played in horrific conditions. When a game
descends into a game against the elements, it's gone too far. We should do
what we can to lessen that risk.

Roger said the Open doesn't have much of a portfolio. I'd agree, but that's
only because it has been a struggling event, with problems locating a
suitable venue. Given time, I would expect this to become a respected
event.

Andy
Chevron






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In addition to views from other open players.

Firstly I would like to disagree about the importance of coed (and some
other events) as being of less importance.  They are extemely important to
many up and coming players, and maybe by the time some of our older more
qualified players start ro retire; coed will be the Nationals everybody
wants to be at.  Bring on the future.

Second.. Nationals should be (and is)  a competitive and qualified event
near the end of the year.  I wonder if the poor turnout last year was due to
the weather prospects? or if it has more to do with the tour being over and
the nationals seems more like a 'tag on'.(thats too debatable and i
shouldn't bring it up just now)

On balance i think, if the Nationals (open or otherwise) is the premier
event of the year, perhaps it should be played in a location that will
guarantee it a large turnout and aid publicity.

Therefore i suggest that the w/e offered to the British Open (unfortunately)
would be best.  A bank holiday possibly 3 days of Ultimate with options for
Hat or something else.  Its closer to the actual tour events and almost
quarantees FAB weather.  I think Womens Nationals should be played at the
same time too.  maximum
The point I want to make is that if the Nationals is Premier... make it so.

Alternately this is also the w.e Nottingham have been hosting their
delicious co-ed event so again i should probly be quiet.  Mind you i know
the guys in Nottingham would are itching to host a major event, and would
serve the country well.  I might also add that Nottingham and Leicester (and
therefore Loughboro) are the 2 dryest cities in the country (not that a
southerner would ever believe it).

there, slightly more than 2penneth, but worth a credit note.

Sam
Nottingham Ultimate

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Firstly I would like to disagree about the importance of coed (and some
other events) as being of less importance.  They are extemely important to
many up and coming players, and maybe by the time some of our older more
qualified players start ro retire; coed will be the Nationals everybody
wants to be at.  Bring on the future.

Second.. Nationals should be (and is)  a competitive and qualified event
near the end of the year.  I wonder if the poor turnout last year was due to
the weather prospects? or if it has more to do with the tour being over and
the nationals seems more like a 'tag on'.(thats too debatable and i
shouldn't bring it up just now)

On balance i think, if the Nationals (open or otherwise) is the premier
event of the year, perhaps it should be played in a location that will
guarantee it a large turnout and aid publicity.

Therefore i suggest that the w/e offered to the British Open (unfortunately)
would be best.  A bank holiday possibly 3 days of Ultimate with options for
Hat or something else.  Its closer to the actual tour events and almost
quarantees FAB weather.  I think Womens Nationals should be played at the
same time too.  maximum
The point I want to make is that if the Nationals is Premier... make it so.

Alternately this is also the w.e Nottingham have been hosting their
delicious co-ed event so again i should probly be quiet.  Mind you i know
the guys in Nottingham would are itching to host a major event, and would
serve the country well.  I might also add that Nottingham and Leicester (and
therefore Loughboro) are the 2 dryest cities in the country (not that a
southerner would ever believe it).

there, slightly more than 2penneth, but worth a credit note.

Sam
Nottingham Ultimate

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CURRENT PROPOSAL
20/21 Jul Open Tour IV
27/28 Jul
03/04 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
10/11 Aug Hawaii (Overseas)
17/18 Aug
24/25 Aug British Open
31/01 Sep
07/08 Sep Co-ed Nationals
14/15 Sep
21/22 Sep Open Nationals

Would it not be possible to move the Open to one of the weekends of Hawaii? 
Yes, this would exclude the teams that are playing in World Clubs, but it 
would hopefully attract more interest from continental teams who couldn't 
afford Hawaii but would still like to go and play a tournament abroad.
Co-ed and Open Nationals could then be moved up two weeks, and we wouldn't 
have to play in the rain.

Jaimie
LLL

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It seems that the majority of postees thus far are all
for moving the nationals back. Would it make more
sense for those who DONT want the nationals moved to
post instead? 

just a thought

dan
flyght

ps. i agree with moving the open to the hawaii
weekends, only because it seems like the most sensible
option, and it acts as a cheaper alternative to those
euro teams who cant afford hawaii

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Hi Britdisc,

I hope this is an acceptable subject for britdisc, but in the light of the 
Euro etc I would like to make an appeal for any foreign notes that you may 
have amassed during your years of travelling to far off places. These notes 
become redundant on or around the 28th Feb, but will go a long way for 
charity -(ANY charity).

This is an appeal for Macmillan Cancer Relief.

Four in 10 of us will experience cancer in our lifetime. This is predicted 
to rise to 5 in 10 by 2020.

Macmillan Cancer Relief Greater London Appeal is hoping to raise £3 million 
pounds for local cancer care services - such as providing specialist 
oncologist doctors and nurses. If you would like to send me any money for 
Macmillan, it will all come in handy. Remember - you have two months before 
the notes become useless..!

If you are out of London, you can still send me the notes, but specify  if 
you would like your money to go to local cancer care services. - e.g. if you 
live in Manchester I can forward this to the local appeal there.

Any contributions welcome! - Perhaps you could ask around your office or 
friends?

My address is
Diana Worman
Macmillan Cancer Relief
3 Angel Walk
W6 9HX
020 8222 9013

I also practice on Sundays at Clapham South, or Mondays at Tooting Bec.

Many thanks for taking the time to read this.
Kind regards
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I've been approached by several people wondering whether there are
spaces to pick up with teams at the Newport Indoor Tournament on Jan 18
& 19

I'd suggest that people either try finding a spot with a team by
advertising on BritDisc, or contacting the participating teams directly.

I've enclosed a list of the team contacts.

Regards
Wayne

Teams attending Newport Indoors 2002:
 1 Strange Blue    Ben Brinded    bjb29@hermes.cam.ac.uk
 2 Trig's Team     Andrew Feltham felthama@uk.ibm.com
 3 Angels          Simon Barry    sibarry@hotmail.com
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 5 Blue Arse Flies James Hewitson james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com
 6 Space Monkeys   Tom Candlin    tom@tcandlin.fsnet.co.uk
 7 Slipdisc        Katie Little   katie@badpen.com
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10 Vortex Camulodunum Jim Lomas   ulty@vros.demon.co.uk
11 Sublime Open    Aidan Baker    abaker@fireflytech.com
12 Discult         Alan Harding   alan_harding28@hotmail.com
13 Yo Mama         Will Parker    yo-mama-ultimate@yahoogroups.com
14 SNOAP           Adam Batchelor adam.batchelor@virgin.net
15 Whiplash        Sarah Kirwan   sarah.kirwan@uk.millwardbrown.com
16 Hammerage       Simon Norris   simon.norris@virgin.net
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Happy New Year to all, (this is not about that open nationals malarchy!)


To Nick Dray from Fever:  are you still interested in a place in         =
                                our tournament???

To every one else: Does anyone know how i can get hold of                =
                 Nick Dray from Fever??

There are still places in Our wonderful tournament if anyone would like =
to join us.
The list of confirmed places is:

UWE?????
Headrush??
Fever??
Mr Men
Sublime
Purple Haze
Skumy
OW!
Slurrey Slingers
Mohawks
Uriel
A southern combo with no name... (who would welcome a few extras....)

give me a call if you're interested.

Lewis
Mythago



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Hello out there to all you frisbee-ers out there!!!!

The University of Bristol's Ultimate team, MYTHAGO is holding an
OPEN indoor tournament on 9/10 of FEBRUARY 2002 in association with
The British Heart Foundation.  So we would love to see lots of you =
playing
some quality ultimate down here!!

We have places for 17 teams.  The cost per team will be =A390 so we can =
raise
a good amount for the BHF!!!

If you would be interested, then please send your cheques (payable to =
UBUFC
- and say who they're from and a phone no.) to me;

Lewis McFadyen
23b Arthur Road
Biggin Hill
Kent
TN16 3DD

It's first come first served, and we cannot hold places until we see =
those
cheques!!! When i receive these, i'll ring you to confirm your shiny new
place our tournie.

Any queries, my number is 07855527983
Accomodation might be available if you ask nicely!

All the best

LEWIS MCFADYEN
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Devils' Heaven 2002 is online

http://www.discdevilstwente.nl/heaven/

Hinderik


  [aibohphobia, The fear of palindromes]

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Ultimate lovers,

Anna and Rich are proud to announce the arrival of their very first
batch of discs. 

Each of the litter weigh in at 175g and all answer to the name 
'Ultrastar' (a traditional but still hugely popular name for discs).

Despite the media frenzy surrounding previous controversial 
adoption cases we are offering to sell them over the internet. They
are available in traditional white (with either black, metallic red or
metallic green print) and very impractical 'glo' (with either black or
metallic red print) for £7.50 and £8.50 respectively. 

You can either find us at an up and coming tournament and take  
custody of them there and then, or you can email us and we'll 
arrange a stork to drop them off for you (you'll have to pay the Royal
Mail Stork Carrier Fee).

The design can be seen at:  
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~eng9aw/DiscDesign.gif

>From proud parents,

Anna and Rich
Jedi

eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk

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From: Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
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Cc: "'britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>,
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Subject: London Winter League Matchday#3 News
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:48:12 -0000 

This Sunday 13th January sees Matchday 3 move up a gear to having
simultaneous Division 1 and 2 games on opposite sides of London.
Heavyweights down south, flyweights up north - just like it should be
;-)

One team will fall from grace and be relegated from Div 1 for Matchday
4,
and one team from Div 2 will be promoted to mix it   with the best on
the
Common that same day.

COULD ALL TEAMS PLEASE CONFIRM THEIR ATTENDANCE IMMEDIATELY TO ME VIA
EMAIL.
Thanks.

Seedings for Division 1 on Clapham Common:
1/ Clapham 1
2/ Clapham 2
3/ Druids
4/ Sharks
5/ Red
6/ Smash & Grab
7/ Hammerage
8/ Fever

Please be ready to play at 10.30 sharp. Let's debate formats later in
the
week, but 3 games may make more sense than 4 given the weather.

Provisional entrants for Division 2 on Regent's Park:
Cloudthings
DiscDoctors
BadHabits
Sublime
Mohawks
Hammerage 2 (50/50 at the mo)
Un Poco Loco

If we get one more team to sign up we could get an 8 team Division 2 -
with
a nice 8 team knockout format to decide the winner. Any takers? Lewis
has
kindly offered to be Division 2 co-ordinator again for this event. What
a
nice chap.

Can't wait. Sorry for any last minuteness, December took it's serious
toll
on my organisational capacity.....

L8rs,
Silver Bear
cu#1


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Thomson 
Sent: 27 November 2001 10:27
To: Roger Thomson; 'w.retter@bigfoot.com';
'philipharveynz@hotmail.com';
'PorteMat@exchange.uk.ml.com'; 'simon.norris@virgin.net';
'mungo.sheppard@camden.gov.uk'; 'j_hammersley@hotmail.com';
'adam@ummedia.com'; 'ken@kenandjana.com'; 'nick.dray@geseaco.com';
'john.armitage@ic.ac.uk'; 'kacheng@yahoo.com';
'nolan@firebrand.co.uk';
'glyn@popstar.demon.co.uk'; 'SPfeiffer@merlin-biosciences.com';
'punwin@grantham.ac.uk'; 'Loopy1019@btopenworld.com' 
Subject: Matchday 2 results


Well done everybody - we were lucky with the weather and had yet
another day
of storming Ultimate. I think Hammerage reversing the upset by Fever
was the
only seed breaker - hopefully we'll start to see some more fairly
soon.

1/ Clapham 2
2/ Clapham 1
3/ Druids
4/ Sharks
5/ Smash & Grab
6/ Hammerage
7/ Fever
8/ Sublime

So Sublime get relegated. Well done Lewis and co - I think you put up a
good
fight and it was a pleasure having you down for the day. Red will
replace
them for Matchday 3 on 13/1, and IMHO should be seeded 5th in
accordance
with their placing at Nationals. Looks like the Hammerage/Fever game
will
have even more of an edge to it next time with relegation at stake!

I've got some but not all the game results, please send in all your
team's
game results ASAP so that I can work out a points total for the
running
scores and publish the results to Britdisk. They will be used to
determine
who gets into the last event, so are important.

Just to let you know - Mohawks are interested in coming up on 13/1 for
Division 2.

There was no lost property.

Thanks all,
Roger


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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Sorry to clog people's inboxes, can Charles from Fusion get in touch, or if anyone has his mail address can they send it to me</DIV>
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Hi All,

Sorry about the accommodation mail. Double room available in Elephant and Castle. Room is in a large 3 bed room house on a quite road. 5 minutes walk to the tube and train. to share with 1 possibly 2 others. Rent will vary depending on how many people are
living in the house.

If you are interested please call Hannah on 0207 5640596

cheers Hannah



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Dear Female Ultimate Players

Do you want to come and play in Tenerife over the first weekend in February?


I am in a co-ed savage seven competition on the island for a three day
tournament (leaving on Jan 31. 2002) - one day grass, on day sand, one day
grass.  I went last year, and it was awesome (*and warm*). There will be one
team from each major European country (one's which except EURO's..and the
UK).

Its a fun team going, to party and play Frisbee - 

I know it is short notice, but I have one female spot left to fill - Can you
let me know if you fancy it.

Thanks - 07974 567 571 - or email me - 

Milk - TeamShark

James Hammersley
Shreeveport Management Consultancy
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>FW: (for all those having trouble to get there)
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Hello,

Here is the long awaited invitation to the biggest indoor Ultimate event EVER 
in Britain. 56 teams - four tournaments! Yes please! Please go to our website 
for details of qualification, seedings, groups, formats and payment. www.lufbra-
ultimate.co.uk

Firstly, we are hosting the Student Indoor Nationals 2002. This is 16 teams.

Secondly, there is going to be a second student division called Division 2. 
This is an official 'UK ULTIMATE' event this year and places were
earned in the 
Student Regionals last year. It is based on the NTN idea that Fish invented. 
This is also 16 teams. 

Thirdly, there is the Women's National Indoors. This will probably only be
8 
teams depending on interest.

Fourthly, another 16 team tournament will take place for ex-student teams and 
student teams that didn't qualify for either Nationals or Division 2.

Please let us know as soon as possible if you are interested so we can fill up 
the schedule. If you have qualified and are not coming, please let me know so I 
can inform the next team. Payment will be reserved until the 4th of Feb, then 
it will be cheques through the door. My door!

Thanks, look forward to accommodating you all!

Luke/Lowg
Purple Haze

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

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<P>put this in your diaries.&nbsp; The Poolimate tournament in Darmstadt (30 mins south of Frankfurt) has been set for 10 and 11 August 2002.&nbsp; See <A href="http://www.arsludendi.de/">www.arsludendi.de</A> for details (though only in German).</P>
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sorry, I forgot to mention the dates of the Loughborough tournament. Minor 
detail!

16th and 17th of FEBRUARY

Thanks,

Luke
Haze 

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

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Hello everyone,

The first round of tournament bids for next season is
now closed. For the time being I am only going to
publicise the indoor events, as these are only ones
that are finalised. Outdoor events will be finalised
in about one month’s time.

There were only four bids for indoor qualifiers so
there will only be four qualifiers, all on the
23rd/24th of February. These are:

Sheffield
Nottingham
Weston-Super-Mare
London

There will be no co-ed qualifiers as there were no
bids. Co-ed Indoor finals will therefore be on a
first-come, first served basis once details have been
announced.

The details for Open Indoor Finals and Co-ed Indoor
Finals will be publicised on Britdisc early next week
by Rob Owen.

Any team can enter any region, each of which will be
filled on a first-come, first-served basis. I will let
the individual tournament directors publish the
details of their events by whichever means they see
fit.

To aid my workload Rob Owen has offered to take over
the role of Indoors Co-ordinator, so if you have any
queries regarding indoors from now on could you please
direct them to him. His contact details are:
3a Lambrook Terrace, Fulham, SW6 6TF
robertowen1@hotmail.com
07949 634159

If you need to contact me urgently regarding outdoors
then I can be reached on 07976 216135. I will not be
able to check my email for the next three weeks.

Cheers,

Si Weeks


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Hello everyone,

As I am unable to get on email for the next three
weeks I thought I’d better publish details of the
Indoor Qualifiers in Weston-Super-Mare.

The event will be held on the weekend of the 23rd/24th
of February at the Hutton Moor Leisure Centre in
Weston-Super-Mare. This is located just three miles
from junction 21 of the M5. The venue has a large
sized hall (36m by 32m), so can be divided into two
sizeable pitches. The leisure centre also has a
swimming pool, squash courts, tennis, etc.

On the Saturday night the party will include a DJ and
all being well a late licence until midnight. The
party will be on the same site as the tournament and
for those who really want to minimise their
non-ultimate exercise to 30 seconds walking, there is
also accommodation on site. This is a Travel Inn,
which costs £20.95 per person based on two people
sharing.

There is a plethora of alternative accommodation
available in Weston-Super-Mare town centre, which is
just 1.5 miles away. The following B&B prices are
based on August rates, so you should be able to get
some good discount. Plenty more B&Bs are available on
request.

Blakeney, 01934 624772, £14 per night B&B
Vaynor, 01934 632332, £14 per night B&B
Fourways, 01934 623827, £15 per night B&B
Holly Lodge, 01934 415163, £15 per night B&B
Holmleigh, 01934 629070, £15 per night B&B
Arilas, 01934 628283, £16 per night B&B
Flora Glen, 01934 620592, £16 per night B&B
Four Seasons, 01934 631124, £16 per night B&B
Goodrington, 01934 623229, £16 per night B&B
Hotel Soraya, 01934 629043, £16 per night B&B
Kenilworth, 01934 629398, £16 per night B&B

Entries will be accepted on a first-come, first-served
basis. The cost per team is £80. Please send cheques
to Si Weeks, 23 Shepards Close, Fareham, PO14 3AJ. If
you have any queries you can reply to this email
address (but bear in mind I won’t be able to read it
for three weeks) or alternatively you can call me on
07815 126573.

I look forward to seeing you in Weston,

Si Weeks


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The most Northern of the indoor qualifiers will be held at Concorde Sports 
Centre on the 23rd and 24th of February.  Entry will be on a first come 
first served basis up to a maximum of 20 teams.  With only 4 qualifiers 
competition for places will probably be fierce so get your cheques in early.

Cheques made payable to Rob.Owen for £90 to
Robert Owen
3a Lambrook Terrace
Fulham
London
SW6 6TF

Floorspace is likely to be limited and will be allocated on  a first come 
first served basis.


Details concerning the Open and Co-Ed Nationals will be finalised in the 
next couple of days.

Rob









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Subject: Lost Wallet (Winter League 3 Attendees only!)
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Hi,

Has anyone found a leather wallet during WL3. If you
have could you contact me at this e-mail address or
phone 07801 498603

Cheers

Voodoo (Smash and Grab, MHB)


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Dear All,

If all goes to plan, this year's regional indoor events will be the first
official UK Ultimate events and will require all players to be members or
have registered as for the free year of eligibilty. We intend to be ready to
receive membership applications at the beginning of February.

Unfortunately we have had a set-back in that we are once again without a bid
for the newsletter editor/team. As you will realise, the newsletter is one
of the main purposes of the association and we can't really continue without
it.

I am therefore asking you all to consider whether you or someone on your
team might be interested making a big contribution to the sport and
performing this role. It should be a enjoyable and rewarding job.

Our original intention was to produce a newsletter every two months
containing articles, news and information. We would however be perfectly
happy to be flexible and consider alternative suggestions which accomplish
the same (e.g. a regular brief newsletter with a larger annual yearbook)

We will of course pay you for your trouble and give you as much assistance
as we can. We would be happy with - indeed encourage - applications from a
team of people who share the job.

If you think you might be interested or if you want to suggest someone
suitable then PLEASE contact us as soon as possible.

Incidentally, if anyone else is considering applying for the Administrator
role can you please contact us by the end of this week as we want to start
interviews.

Thanks for your help.

Ben

Ben Ravilious
President
UK Ultimate





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Dear All

1. I printed 1,000 copies of Ultimatum, and now have 100 copies left. If you
would like a copy, and you are in the UK, please send me your address. I'd
be happy to send out batches to teams. First come...

2. FREE GAIA BOOTS! c'mon, what is wrong with you people? So far only three
people have entered the 'spot the hacky' competition. All you have to do is
send an email (See inside cover of Ultimatum 2001).

3. I'd like to add to Ben's email regarding the future of Ultimatum. It is
indeed a very rewarding task. Unfortunately I am no longer in a position to
undertake it all by myself, however, I would be happy contribute advice,
contacts, and design if somebody else was willing to take over the reins.

Cheers
Jack



> Dear All,
> 
> If all goes to plan, this year's regional indoor events will be the first
> official UK Ultimate events and will require all players to be members or
> have registered as for the free year of eligibilty. We intend to be ready to
> receive membership applications at the beginning of February.
> 
> Unfortunately we have had a set-back in that we are once again without a bid
> for the newsletter editor/team. As you will realise, the newsletter is one
> of the main purposes of the association and we can't really continue without
> it.
> 
> I am therefore asking you all to consider whether you or someone on your
> team might be interested making a big contribution to the sport and
> performing this role. It should be a enjoyable and rewarding job.
> 
> Our original intention was to produce a newsletter every two months
> containing articles, news and information. We would however be perfectly
> happy to be flexible and consider alternative suggestions which accomplish
> the same (e.g. a regular brief newsletter with a larger annual yearbook)
> 
> We will of course pay you for your trouble and give you as much assistance
> as we can. We would be happy with - indeed encourage - applications from a
> team of people who share the job.
> 
> If you think you might be interested or if you want to suggest someone
> suitable then PLEASE contact us as soon as possible.
> 
> Incidentally, if anyone else is considering applying for the Administrator
> role can you please contact us by the end of this week as we want to start
> interviews.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Ben
> 
> Ben Ravilious
> President
> UK Ultimate
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Hello Britdisc

Open Nationals will be held in Leeds on the 16th and 17th of March. Thanks 
to Arun for sorting that out.  Details on the number of teams and allocation 
of slots per region will be announced when the regional competitions have 
been filled.

On a personal note can I thank Roger and Lewis for all there work in setting 
up the winter league in London.  It's great that people can now play 
competitive outdoor ultimate all year round.

Cheers

Rob Owen

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Subject: Lufbra Tournament
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All,

The Loughborough Indoor Students 2002 is now full. Below is a list of the teams 
entered into the Women\'s STUDENT Nationals and the Old Skool division. I assume 
that those teams in nationals and division 2, will confirm soon. I also need to 
know if you want accomodation or not, and on which nights. There is floor space 
for anyone who wants it. 

Remember that the deadline for payment is the 4th of February. If the cheque is 
not through my door on or before that date, your team will forfeit entry and it 
will go to the next team. Please note that all divisions have waiting lists so 
this will not be difficult. Get you asses in gear. I have received hardly any 
cheques yet.

WOMEN\'S DIVISION

Mwnci See
Fish 
Flatball Project
Grantham
Bears	
Duffodils	
YBK	
Jedi - not confirmed

OLD SKOOL DIVISION

Old Haze 1
Old Haze 2
Trigger Happy
Aurora Borealis
Hultimate
Old York
Old Sublime
Flyght Club
Venom
Fish 2
York Team
Grantham
Purple Ronnies
Jedi 2
Disc Doctors 2
Mwnci See
	
Any further questions, email me. 

Thanks,

Lowg

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

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Subject: ultimatum again
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I=B9m pleased to say that all of the copies have now been spoken for. All
gone. Finito.

Sorry if you missed out

People that replied should get them shortly, and to those who asked, this
service is free =AD on the understanding that you will use them to attract
more people to the sport if you can

jack 

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Cc: "'Neily P'" <cpibeach@racsa.co.cr>, "'Candy'" <andy.catlin@ukonline.co.uk>,
   "'Nik Reeves'" <Reeves_Nik@hotmail.com>, "'Pauline'" <u01paj@abdn.ac.uk>,
   "'Positive Mojo'" <positivemojo@yahoogroups.com>,
   "'Sue'"
	 <SClough@swtrains.co.uk>,
   "'Tony Hutton'" <mtp00wah@sheffield.ac.uk>
Subject: FAO. Old school Aberdeen - Petroleum and Falling Skies ex players
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:44:09 -0000
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As you may have heard the Aberdeen team - Positive Mojo - are hosting the
CUBE (Caledonia Ultimate Beach Event) at Balmedie Beach on the 4th and 5th
May. Some of us old uns thought it might be kind of cool to enter a
mismatched team of ex players so if you're up for it give me a shout and
I'll get it sorted. An early reply even if its just a vague interest would
be much appreciated. Cheers, Bess (07764 522832)

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23/24th March
Clifton Campus 
Nottingham

should be £75.00


We appreciate this is very close to Easter, but would like to be sure
that a Open Womens Nationals event definately takes place.  Simon
suggested if we could find a date that didn't clash with anything else,
we could go for it.

Please respond to samanir@breathe.com if you feel your team would be
interested and can make the dates.

Thanks

Sam
Nottingham Ultimate



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Nottingham Ultimate invites you all to join us for the Open Qualifiers
16 to 20 teams, £75 squid – party Saturday nite, light breakfast included.
Accommodation – lots of floor space or a rather good B&B facility Nolan
recommended.  
Just as good as last year! With a few minor differences. 
We know you wanna come, so get on it!  

Cheques £75.00 payable to Sam Rey
62a Nottingham Road 
Basford
Nottingham
NG7 7AH


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When sam says the tournament will be as good as last
year, with a few minor differences, this means there
will explicitly be NO BONGS AS PRIZES.

thankyou,

dan
TNT/Flyght

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Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee Tournament, 2002
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The Pookas in association with UCD Ultimate are
hosting the 7th Annual Dublin International Ultimate
Frisbee Tournament on the weekend of the 6th and 7th
of April 2002.
-It is an outdoor open tournament and has space for16
teams.
-The team entry fee is €150, this does not include
accommodation but it does include breakfast at the
pitches and the Saturday night party.
-Entry will be on a first come first served basis.
-For the first time the tournament will be held in UCD
(University College Dublin) which is only 3kms from
the city centre (10 mins on a bus).
-UCD has all the facilities you will need; the sports
centre, which is only a discs throw from the fields,
has hot showers, food and most importantly, a bar with
excellent Guinness!
-We meet on Friday the 5th of April in the Pav bar in
historic Trinity College Dublin in the city centre.
You can get 4 cans of lager for €6 here and there is a
pitch right in front of it for some impromptu drunken
ultimate!!
-There will be a themed party on the Saturday night,
details will follow.
-Floorspace will be limited so a youth hostel would be
a better option.  A list of hostels will be sent to
all teams.

Come and play good ultimate and have a fantastic time
and enjoy some good old fashioned Irish hospitality.
If you want more details just email me and i will get
back to you.
 John Davis Coakley,
 Tournament Director. 

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The Pookas in association with UCD Ultimate are
hosting the 7th Annual Dublin International Ultimate
Frisbee Tournament on the weekend of the 6th and 7th
of April 2002.
-It is an outdoor open tournament and has space for16
teams.
-The team entry fee is €150, this does not include
accommodation but it does include breakfast at the
pitches and the Saturday night party.
-Entry will be on a first come first served basis.
-For the first time the tournament will be held in UCD
(University College Dublin) which is only 3kms from
the city centre (10 mins on a bus).
-UCD has all the facilities you will need; the sports
centre, which is only a discs throw from the fields,
has hot showers, food and most importantly, a bar with
excellent Guinness!
-We meet on Friday the 5th of April in the Pav bar in
historic Trinity College Dublin in the city centre.
You can get 4 cans of lager for €6 here and there is a
pitch right in front of it for some impromptu drunken
ultimate!!
-There will be a themed party on the Saturday night,
details will follow.
-Floorspace will be limited so a youth hostel would be
a better option.  A list of hostels will be sent to
all teams.

Come and play good ultimate and have a fantastic time
and enjoy some good old fashioned Irish hospitality.
If you want more details just email me and i will get
back to you.
 John Davis Coakley,
 Tournament Director. 

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To be sure, to be sure ??

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Hedge

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From: JD Coakley [mailto:jdcoakleyultimate@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 17 January 2002 13:30
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Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee Tournament, 2002

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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:14:32 -0000
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It has been pointed out by Mike, in no uncertain terms, that I should
refrain from pointing out the irony in getting the same email twice in the
space of a minute about an Irish ultimate tourney. Maybe the stereotype is
true and Dutch people don't have a sense of humour (all other Dutch people
on BritDisc please note that that particular stereotype also came out of my
arse)

Mike (meehaulomeara@yahoo.com) wrote:
>Go stick your sterotypes up yur arse!
>some faggot wrote: > To be sure, to be sure ??

So, my humblest apologies for having nothing better to do on a boring
afternoon at work.

----------------------
Hedge

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Angels are in a situation of only having 4 players this weekend.
If anyone has a team which would like to take this position could
you please let myself and Wayne know.

If there is anyone that would like to pickup with us, could you
let me know.

Thanks

Sean (Angels/Druids)

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I am sure we are not the only ones...
Student teams everywhere are bidding hard for places in Open Qualifiers.  
If your is an Open team, best get your bid in real quik.

Sam
Nottingham Ultimate


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Dear All,

In accordance with the constitution of the UK Ultimate Association I would
like to declare a personal business interest which might be percieved as
having a conflict of interest with my role as President.

I will shortly be launching a commercial website called Ultimarket
(www.ultimarket.com) where companies, clubs and players can advertise
ultimate-related goods and services.

In order to minimise any potential or perceived conflict of interest I will
not be charging UK players or clubs for the use of any of the services on
the site whilst I remain President.

If anyone has any complaints or objections to make about this then
please raise it with the Secretary, Laura Pearce
(laurapearce@btinternet.com), who will discuss the matter with the board of
directors in my absence.

I hope the site will prove to be useful to UK players and if it brings me
any closer
to giving up the day job then I will have considerably more time to dedicate
to UK Ultimate!

Cheers

Ben Ravilious
President
UK Ultimate


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Thu, 17 Jan 2002, by JD Coakley;
 Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee Tournament, 2002
>-The team entry fee is 150

Pounds Sterling or Euros ?

It makes a difference!

Wayne
Fluid Druids
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Wayne Retter

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Is this happening twice?

Wed, 9 Jan 2002, by  <mailto:L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk>;
 Subject: Student Indoor Whopper 2002
> Thirdly, there is the Women's National Indoors. This will probably
> only be 8 teams depending on interest.


Wed, 16 Jan 2002, by  <mailto:samanir@breathe.com>;
 Subject: Open Womens Nationals ???
>23/24th March
>Clifton Campus 
>Nottingham
>
>should be £75.00
>
>
>We appreciate this is very close to Easter, but would like to be sure
>that a Open Womens Nationals event definately takes place.  Simon
>suggested if we could find a date that didn't clash with anything else,
>we could go for it.
>
>Please respond to samanir@breathe.com if you feel your team would be
>interested and can make the dates.
>
>Thanks
>
>Sam
>Nottingham Ultimate

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Wayne Retter

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From: "Ranulf Doswell" <britdisc@ranulf.net>
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>  Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee Tournament, 2002
> >-The team entry fee is 150
> 
> Pounds Sterling or Euros ?
> 
> It makes a difference!

Had a little euro character in the e-mail I received.

Ralf.

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From: "Lewis McFadyen" <lewismcfadyen@hotmail.com>
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Hello people of frisbee,

Thanks to all the people who showed such an interest in our humble 
tournament to raise money for the British Heart Foundation!!  You all have 
hearts of gold!!

I am now very pleased to announce that all our places have now been filled.  
And to all those people who are coming, you all get free jelly beans 
courtesy of the gourmet makers themselves, "Jelly Belly".
Just to show you that we care...

The official list is:

UWE
Purple Haze
Old Haze
The southern team with no name
Picnic 1
Picnic 2
Sublime
Bears
Uriel
Slurrey Slingers
Disc Doctors
OW!
Skumy
Viscous Pea Device
Mr Men
Mohawks
Bad Habits

and and bouncers say down here, "if your name's not on the list, you're not 
getting in."
The captain's meeting is going to be early on the Sat, like 9.00 am just 
though i should let you all know...
details of how to get here to follow.
Any queries, and you can get me on 078 555 27983

Thanks again,

Lewis
of Mythago


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As far as I understand it, The Womens Division at Student Natioanls is a
Student Only event, and only 8 teams big.

Nottingham was invited to host a larger event.  The Femme Fest at the end 
of last year had 18 Womens' teams present with 22 showing interest.  So
far we have had 8 teams already say they are coming,  we have an extra
sports hall on standby just in case, raising the capacity to 24 teams.


hope this clears up the questions.

sam
nottingham ultimate



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Declaration of lack of interest!
I think it's taken as read that we trust you Ben.

WL3 Newsflash: Sharks brought out their massive new squad and took Druids
down a notch. Everyone enjoyed playing Red, but unfortunately they held
their seeding ;-) Fever won the third battle in their ding-dong war with
Hammerage (Fever won the first, Hammerage the second), thus condemning
Hammerage to relegation. Both Clapham teams cruised through their semis, but
Clapham 1 gave Clapham 2 a serious pounding in the final despite some good
players on Clapham 2. 

Div 1:
1/ Clapham 1
2/ Clapham 2
3/ Sharks
4/ Druids
5/ Red
6/ Smash & Grab
7/ Fever
8/ Hammerage

Div 2:
1/ Un Poco Loco
2/ Sublime
3= UCL, BadHabits, Cloudthings, Mohawks. They never sent me more results:-(

Cheers all, looking forward to WL4 on the 10th Feb, and the Finals on 2nd
March.

Where do you think I should seed Un Poco Loco for WL4?

Silver Bear
cu#1




-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
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Dear All,

In accordance with the constitution of the UK Ultimate Association I would
like to declare a personal business interest which might be percieved as
having a conflict of interest with my role as President.

I will shortly be launching a commercial website called Ultimarket
(www.ultimarket.com) where companies, clubs and players can advertise
ultimate-related goods and services.

In order to minimise any potential or perceived conflict of interest I will
not be charging UK players or clubs for the use of any of the services on
the site whilst I remain President.

If anyone has any complaints or objections to make about this then
please raise it with the Secretary, Laura Pearce
(laurapearce@btinternet.com), who will discuss the matter with the board of
directors in my absence.

I hope the site will prove to be useful to UK players and if it brings me
any closer
to giving up the day job then I will have considerably more time to dedicate
to UK Ultimate!

Cheers

Ben Ravilious
President
UK Ultimate



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Declaration of lack of interest!
I think it's taken as read that we trust you Ben.

WL3 Newsflash: Sharks brought out their massive new squad and took Druids
down a notch. Everyone enjoyed playing Red, but unfortunately they held
their seeding ;-) Fever won the third battle in their ding-dong war with
Hammerage (Fever won the first, Hammerage the second), thus condemning
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Clapham 1 gave Clapham 2 a serious pounding in the final despite some good
players on Clapham 2. 

Div 1:
1/ Clapham 1
2/ Clapham 2
3/ Sharks
4/ Druids
5/ Red
6/ Smash & Grab
7/ Fever
8/ Hammerage

Div 2:
1/ Un Poco Loco
2/ Sublime
3= UCL, BadHabits, Cloudthings, Mohawks. They never sent me more results:-(

Cheers all, looking forward to WL4 on the 10th Feb, and the Finals on 2nd
March.

Where do you think I should seed Un Poco Loco for WL4?

Silver Bear
cu#1




-----Original Message-----
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Dear All,

In accordance with the constitution of the UK Ultimate Association I would
like to declare a personal business interest which might be percieved as
having a conflict of interest with my role as President.

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(www.ultimarket.com) where companies, clubs and players can advertise
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I hope the site will prove to be useful to UK players and if it brings me
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Cheers

Ben Ravilious
President
UK Ultimate



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It has been pointed out by Mike, in no uncertain terms, that I should
refrain from pointing out the irony in getting the same email twice in the
space of a minute about an Irish ultimate tourney. Maybe the stereotype is
true and Dutch people don't have a sense of humour (all other Dutch people
on BritDisc please note that that particular stereotype also came out of my
arse)

Mike (meehaulomeara@yahoo.com) wrote:
>Go stick your sterotypes up yur arse!
>some faggot wrote: > To be sure, to be sure ??

So, my humblest apologies for having nothing better to do on a boring
afternoon at work.

----------------------
Hedge

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I am sure we are not the only ones...
Student teams everywhere are bidding hard for places in Open Qualifiers.  
If your is an Open team, best get your bid in real quik.

Sam
Nottingham Ultimate



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Is this happening twice?

Wed, 9 Jan 2002, by  <mailto:L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk>;
 Subject: Student Indoor Whopper 2002
> Thirdly, there is the Women's National Indoors. This will probably
> only be 8 teams depending on interest.


Wed, 16 Jan 2002, by  <mailto:samanir@breathe.com>;
 Subject: Open Womens Nationals ???
>23/24th March
>Clifton Campus 
>Nottingham
>
>should be £75.00
>
>
>We appreciate this is very close to Easter, but would like to be sure
>that a Open Womens Nationals event definately takes place.  Simon
>suggested if we could find a date that didn't clash with anything else,
>we could go for it.
>
>Please respond to samanir@breathe.com if you feel your team would be
>interested and can make the dates.
>
>Thanks
>
>Sam
>Nottingham Ultimate

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The Pookas in association with UCD Ultimate are
hosting the 7th Annual Dublin International Ultimate
Frisbee Tournament on the weekend of the 6th and 7th
of April 2002.
-It is an outdoor open tournament and has space for16
teams.
-The team entry fee is €150, this does not include
accommodation but it does include breakfast at the
pitches and the Saturday night party.
-Entry will be on a first come first served basis.
-For the first time the tournament will be held in UCD
(University College Dublin) which is only 3kms from
the city centre (10 mins on a bus).
-UCD has all the facilities you will need; the sports
centre, which is only a discs throw from the fields,
has hot showers, food and most importantly, a bar with
excellent Guinness!
-We meet on Friday the 5th of April in the Pav bar in
historic Trinity College Dublin in the city centre.
You can get 4 cans of lager for €6 here and there is a
pitch right in front of it for some impromptu drunken
ultimate!!
-There will be a themed party on the Saturday night,
details will follow.
-Floorspace will be limited so a youth hostel would be
a better option.  A list of hostels will be sent to
all teams.

Come and play good ultimate and have a fantastic time
and enjoy some good old fashioned Irish hospitality.
If you want more details just email me and i will get
back to you.
 John Davis Coakley,
 Tournament Director. 

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The Pookas in association with UCD Ultimate are
hosting the 7th Annual Dublin International Ultimate
Frisbee Tournament on the weekend of the 6th and 7th
of April 2002.
-It is an outdoor open tournament and has space for16
teams.
-The team entry fee is €150, this does not include
accommodation but it does include breakfast at the
pitches and the Saturday night party.
-Entry will be on a first come first served basis.
-For the first time the tournament will be held in UCD
(University College Dublin) which is only 3kms from
the city centre (10 mins on a bus).
-UCD has all the facilities you will need; the sports
centre, which is only a discs throw from the fields,
has hot showers, food and most importantly, a bar with
excellent Guinness!
-We meet on Friday the 5th of April in the Pav bar in
historic Trinity College Dublin in the city centre.
You can get 4 cans of lager for €6 here and there is a
pitch right in front of it for some impromptu drunken
ultimate!!
-There will be a themed party on the Saturday night,
details will follow.
-Floorspace will be limited so a youth hostel would be
a better option.  A list of hostels will be sent to
all teams.

Come and play good ultimate and have a fantastic time
and enjoy some good old fashioned Irish hospitality.
If you want more details just email me and i will get
back to you.
 John Davis Coakley,
 Tournament Director. 

__________________________________________________
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Hello people of frisbee,

Thanks to all the people who showed such an interest in our humble 
tournament to raise money for the British Heart Foundation!!  You all have 
hearts of gold!!

I am now very pleased to announce that all our places have now been filled.  
And to all those people who are coming, you all get free jelly beans 
courtesy of the gourmet makers themselves, "Jelly Belly".
Just to show you that we care...

The official list is:

UWE
Purple Haze
Old Haze
The southern team with no name
Picnic 1
Picnic 2
Sublime
Bears
Uriel
Slurrey Slingers
Disc Doctors
OW!
Skumy
Viscous Pea Device
Mr Men
Mohawks
Bad Habits

and and bouncers say down here, "if your name's not on the list, you're not 
getting in."
The captain's meeting is going to be early on the Sat, like 9.00 am just 
though i should let you all know...
details of how to get here to follow.
Any queries, and you can get me on 078 555 27983

Thanks again,

Lewis
of Mythago


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Angels are in a situation of only having 4 players this weekend.
If anyone has a team which would like to take this position could
you please let myself and Wayne know.

If there is anyone that would like to pickup with us, could you
let me know.

Thanks

Sean (Angels/Druids)


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As far as I understand it, The Womens Division at Student Natioanls is a
Student Only event, and only 8 teams big.

Nottingham was invited to host a larger event.  The Femme Fest at the end 
of last year had 18 Womens' teams present with 22 showing interest.  So
far we have had 8 teams already say they are coming,  we have an extra
sports hall on standby just in case, raising the capacity to 24 teams.


hope this clears up the questions.

sam
nottingham ultimate




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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:13:35 -0000
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Dear All,

In accordance with the constitution of the UK Ultimate Association I would
like to declare a personal business interest which might be percieved as
having a conflict of interest with my role as President.

I will shortly be launching a commercial website called Ultimarket
(www.ultimarket.com) where companies, clubs and players can advertise
ultimate-related goods and services.

In order to minimise any potential or perceived conflict of interest I will
not be charging UK players or clubs for the use of any of the services on
the site whilst I remain President.

If anyone has any complaints or objections to make about this then
please raise it with the Secretary, Laura Pearce
(laurapearce@btinternet.com), who will discuss the matter with the board of
directors in my absence.

I hope the site will prove to be useful to UK players and if it brings me
any closer
to giving up the day job then I will have considerably more time to dedicate
to UK Ultimate!

Cheers

Ben Ravilious
President
UK Ultimate



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To be sure, to be sure ??

----------------
Hedge

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Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee Tournament, 2002


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When sam says the tournament will be as good as last
year, with a few minor differences, this means there
will explicitly be NO BONGS AS PRIZES.

thankyou,

dan
TNT/Flyght

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Thu, 17 Jan 2002, by JD Coakley;
 Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee Tournament, 2002
>-The team entry fee is 150

Pounds Sterling or Euros ?

It makes a difference!

Wayne
Fluid Druids
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Nottingham Ultimate invites you all to join us for the Open Qualifiers
16 to 20 teams, £75 squid – party Saturday nite, light breakfast included.
Accommodation – lots of floor space or a rather good B&B facility Nolan
recommended.  
Just as good as last year! With a few minor differences. 
We know you wanna come, so get on it!  

Cheques £75.00 payable to Sam Rey
62a Nottingham Road 
Basford
Nottingham
NG7 7AH



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>  Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee Tournament, 2002
> >-The team entry fee is 150
> 
> Pounds Sterling or Euros ?
> 
> It makes a difference!

Had a little euro character in the e-mail I received.

Ralf.

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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
<P>&gt;Is this happening twice? </P>
<P>unless it's just Hotmail playing tricks on me, *everything* on Britdisc seems to be happening twice....&nbsp; (?!)</P>
<P><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" size=2>&nbsp;</P></DIV></FONT>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Wayne Retter <DRUID#6@PHIDELTA.DEMON.CO.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: Wayne Retter <WAYNE@PHIDELTA.DEMON.CO.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Open Womens Nationals ??? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:28:39 +0000 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Is this happening twice? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wed, 9 Jan 2002, by <mailto:L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk>; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Subject: Student Indoor Whopper 2002 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Thirdly, there is the Women's National Indoors. This will probably 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; only be 8 teams depending on interest. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wed, 16 Jan 2002, by <mailto:samanir@breathe.com>; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Subject: Open Womens Nationals ??? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;23/24th March 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Clifton Campus 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Nottingham 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;should be £75.00 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;We appreciate this is very close to Easter, but would like to be sure 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;that a Open Womens Nationals event definately takes place. Simon 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;suggested if we could find a date that didn't clash with anything else, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;we could go for it. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Please respond to samanir@breathe.com if you feel your team would be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;interested and can make the dates. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Thanks 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Sam 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Nottingham Ultimate 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wayne Retter 
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
<P>&gt;Is this happening twice? </P>
<P>unless it's just Hotmail playing tricks on me, *everything* on Britdisc seems to be happening twice....&nbsp; (?!)</P>
<P><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" size=2>&nbsp;</P></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Wayne Retter <DRUID#6@PHIDELTA.DEMON.CO.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: Wayne Retter <WAYNE@PHIDELTA.DEMON.CO.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Open Womens Nationals ??? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:28:39 +0000 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Is this happening twice? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wed, 9 Jan 2002, by <mailto:L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk>; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Subject: Student Indoor Whopper 2002 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Thirdly, there is the Women's National Indoors. This will probably 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; only be 8 teams depending on interest. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wed, 16 Jan 2002, by <mailto:samanir@breathe.com>; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Subject: Open Womens Nationals ??? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;23/24th March 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Clifton Campus 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Nottingham 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;should be £75.00 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;We appreciate this is very close to Easter, but would like to be sure 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;that a Open Womens Nationals event definately takes place. Simon 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;suggested if we could find a date that didn't clash with anything else, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;we could go for it. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Please respond to samanir@breathe.com if you feel your team would be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;interested and can make the dates. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Thanks 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Sam 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Nottingham Ultimate 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wayne Retter 
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Apologies for not making it clear. The entry fee is
150 Euro. Thanks for pointing it out.

JD
(John Davis Coakley, Dublin Tournament Director)

 --- Ranulf Doswell <britdisc@ranulf.net> wrote: > > 
Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee
> Tournament, 2002
> > >-The team entry fee is 150
> > 
> > Pounds Sterling or Euros ?
> > 
> > It makes a difference!
> 
> Had a little euro character in the e-mail I
> received.
> 
> Ralf.
>  

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Apologies for not making it clear. The entry fee is
150 Euro. Thanks for pointing it out.

JD
(John Davis Coakley, Dublin Tournament Director)

 --- Ranulf Doswell <britdisc@ranulf.net> wrote: > > 
Subject: Dublin International Ultimate Frisbee
> Tournament, 2002
> > >-The team entry fee is 150
> > 
> > Pounds Sterling or Euros ?
> > 
> > It makes a difference!
> 
> Had a little euro character in the e-mail I
> received.
> 
> Ralf.
>  

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The 2002 edition of the Newport Indoor Tournament is 99% complete (I've
got a few items of Lost Property...) and I'm left with the feeling that
'a good time was had by all'.

The award ceremony went something along these lines:

SOTG: Strange Blue

This year, we moved to having each team give a 1-5 spirit vote after
each game. All teams played 7 games, the SOTG totals spanned the range
22-33.
Strange Blue and Skunk Stimulate were actually joint winners on total
SOTG scores, but after an assortment of cross-referenced opinions
Strange Blue were awarded the trophy and chocolates.

TROPHY
 1 Space Monkeys
 2 Hammerage (2000 champions)
 3 Yo Mama
 4 Skunk Stimulate
 5 Sublime
 6 Blue Arse Flies
 7 Oasis
 8 Discult
PLATE
 9 Whiplash
10 Strange Blue
11 SNOAP
12 SkuMy
13 Mr Men
14 Slipdisc
15 Vortex Camulodunum
16 TBA (Fluid Druids cameo)

Every team got a trophy this year - a figurine of some bloke throwing a
forehand/sidearm.
[If any other TDs are interested in obtaining such trophies, I've got
contact details for possibly the only shop in the UK that stocks them.]

A couple of quick comments:
SNOAP, winners of Southampton Indoors in December 2001 and seeded 1,
looked somewhat different at Newport, noticeably missing Matt, Adam
Batchelor (OK, he rolled in on Sunday, but...) and Pete Hallett. Their
replacements were better looking.

Yo Mama featured the return of Andrew 'AC' Christofi, somewhat grayer
than when last seen in the vicinity of flying plastic, but still with
that fire in his somewhat rounder belly.

Due to a late withdrawal by Angels (a lot of them seems to be broken!
Hope they recover from their injuries.) the Fluid Druids made a cameo
appearance at their own tournament. It turned out that there were about
a dozen of them scattered about the entered teams. Indoors-schmindoors?
Pah! It looked very wet outside, but the Newport swimming pool was warm!

Thanks to all coming along and making it what it was.

My thanks to the other members of the Fluid Druids for their general
assistance in running the event on the day, and those special few other
people that helped out with time/scorekeeping.

Wayne Retter
Fluid Druids - Hosts of the Newport Indoor Ultimate Tournament

currently playing with Yo Mama   :-)

PS: Lost Property - is all in the boot of my car, probably until mid-
week, when I'll try to work out exactly what it consists of. If you know
you've lot something, let me know.

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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Following on from last year, this is my 2002 reminder-- inviting any peeps who would like to practise in Harrow (Outer NW-London)&nbsp;on a weekly basis from March/April. </DIV>
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<DIV>If I can get 3 more DEFINITES then I shall go ahead with finalising days and times.</DIV>
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>Every team got a trophy this year - a figurine of some bloke throwing a
>forehand/sidearm.
>[If any other TDs are interested in obtaining such trophies, I've got
>contact details for possibly the only shop in the UK that stocks them.]

I've had a half-dozen requests for these details, so:

        JETrophies
        5, Prescot Road
        Liverpool
        L7 0LA

phone/fax: 0151 260 9806

It might be of use if you mention that you got these details from Layout
Dreams or Fluid Druids...

Wayne


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Dundee have arranged to host the indoor qualifiers on the weekend 
of the 23rd and 24th of Febuary.
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will only be able to hold 10-12 teams. 

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address with your details of your team.

 Sam Lord
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 Dundee
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IF THERE ARE ANY WOMEN PLAYERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PLAYING AT RIMINI WITH
CYRILLE - WE HAVE SPACES - COSTS - APPX £150 FOR FLIGHT £150 FOR
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The 2002 edition of the Newport Indoor Tournament is 99% complete (I've
got a few items of Lost Property...) and I'm left with the feeling that
'a good time was had by all'.

The award ceremony went something along these lines:

SOTG: Strange Blue

This year, we moved to having each team give a 1-5 spirit vote after
each game. All teams played 7 games, the SOTG totals spanned the range
22-33.
Strange Blue and Skunk Stimulate were actually joint winners on total
SOTG scores, but after an assortment of cross-referenced opinions
Strange Blue were awarded the trophy and chocolates.

TROPHY
 1 Space Monkeys
 2 Hammerage (2000 champions)
 3 Yo Mama
 4 Skunk Stimulate
 5 Sublime
 6 Blue Arse Flies
 7 Oasis
 8 Discult
PLATE
 9 Whiplash
10 Strange Blue
11 SNOAP
12 SkuMy
13 Mr Men
14 Slipdisc
15 Vortex Camulodunum
16 TBA (Fluid Druids cameo)

Every team got a trophy this year - a figurine of some bloke throwing a
forehand/sidearm.
[If any other TDs are interested in obtaining such trophies, I've got
contact details for possibly the only shop in the UK that stocks them.]

A couple of quick comments:
SNOAP, winners of Southampton Indoors in December 2001 and seeded 1,
looked somewhat different at Newport, noticeably missing Matt, Adam
Batchelor (OK, he rolled in on Sunday, but...) and Pete Hallett. Their
replacements were better looking.

Yo Mama featured the return of Andrew 'AC' Christofi, somewhat grayer
than when last seen in the vicinity of flying plastic, but still with
that fire in his somewhat rounder belly.

Due to a late withdrawal by Angels (a lot of them seems to be broken!
Hope they recover from their injuries.) the Fluid Druids made a cameo
appearance at their own tournament. It turned out that there were about
a dozen of them scattered about the entered teams. Indoors-schmindoors?
Pah! It looked very wet outside, but the Newport swimming pool was warm!

Thanks to all coming along and making it what it was.

My thanks to the other members of the Fluid Druids for their general
assistance in running the event on the day, and those special few other
people that helped out with time/scorekeeping.

Wayne Retter
Fluid Druids - Hosts of the Newport Indoor Ultimate Tournament

currently playing with Yo Mama   :-)

PS: Lost Property - is all in the boot of my car, probably until mid-
week, when I'll try to work out exactly what it consists of. If you know
you've lot something, let me know.


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>Every team got a trophy this year - a figurine of some bloke throwing a
>forehand/sidearm.
>[If any other TDs are interested in obtaining such trophies, I've got
>contact details for possibly the only shop in the UK that stocks them.]

I've had a half-dozen requests for these details, so:

        JETrophies
        5, Prescot Road
        Liverpool
        L7 0LA

phone/fax: 0151 260 9806

It might be of use if you mention that you got these details from Layout
Dreams or Fluid Druids...

Wayne


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Dundee have arranged to host the indoor qualifiers on the weekend 
of the 23rd and 24th of Febuary.
 We have only managed to secure a single hall so the tournament 
will only be able to hold 10-12 teams. 

 Please send cheques payable to Sam Lord for £75 the following 
address with your details of your team.

 Sam Lord
 93, Nethergate
 Flat 1/1
 Dundee
 DD1 4DH

 The tournament is being held at the Douglas sports centre, 
approximately 10 minutes from dundee city centre.
 Any queries please e-mail or phone me.

 Thanks

 Sam Lord

 07876 334487
 


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Most guys actually ruin the day by spending too much.
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Hello,
Here is a run down of mix and mingle(hull coed indoors 9th/10th Feb) details 
for all you interested people.

Team list:

Phat ed's
Burley korfball
No frills 1
Hulltimate 1
Trigger happy
Strange blue
Chunky monkey
UCL
Durham
BLT
Yorkie bar kids
Block stack
Flyght club
Bradford
Random fling
Jedi
No frills 2
Hulltimate 2
Uwe
+ 1 more tbc

Saturday:
Cpatains meeting taking place at 12:00
First game: 12:30
Finishes: 8:30pm

Party:
9:30 - 1am

The party is at a typically seedy hull venue, with large dance floor, cheap 
drinks, Dj who will broadcast live party footage on to a 12 x 9 big 
screen and also any photos or videos you have.

PARTY THEME - Eighties party theme, prizes for best 80's outfit. So get 
down your local fashion boutique and get yourself something to make you 
look like an extra from topgun, miami vice or any other example of bad 
dress sense you can think of -  the more horrible, the better).

Sunday

Games start at 9am.

Finishes between 5 and 6pm

Sports centre venue

The sports centre is based in Beverley, which is just outside of lovely 
Hull (5 miles away)
Directions will follow shortly.

Accomodation will be provided(floor space) to anyone that needs it.

Anyone who needs any more info don't hesitate to contact me or 
Jill(vanderkitty@hotmail.com).

Thanks,

Mark

Hulltimate
Un poco loco

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Hello,
Here is a run down of mix and mingle(hull coed indoors 9th/10th Feb) details 
for all you interested people.

Team list:

Phat ed's
Burley korfball
No frills 1
Hulltimate 1
Trigger happy
Strange blue
Chunky monkey
UCL
Durham
BLT
Yorkie bar kids
Block stack
Flyght club
Bradford
Random fling
Jedi
No frills 2
Hulltimate 2
Uwe
+ 1 more tbc

Saturday:
Cpatains meeting taking place at 12:00
First game: 12:30
Finishes: 8:30pm

Party:
9:30 - 1am

The party is at a typically seedy hull venue, with large dance floor, cheap 
drinks, Dj who will broadcast live party footage on to a 12 x 9 big 
screen and also any photos or videos you have.

PARTY THEME - Eighties party theme, prizes for best 80's outfit. So get 
down your local fashion boutique and get yourself something to make you 
look like an extra from topgun, miami vice or any other example of bad 
dress sense you can think of -  the more horrible, the better).

Sunday

Games start at 9am.

Finishes between 5 and 6pm

Sports centre venue

The sports centre is based in Beverley, which is just outside of lovely 
Hull (5 miles away)
Directions will follow shortly.

Accomodation will be provided(floor space) to anyone that needs it.

Anyone who needs any more info don't hesitate to contact me or 
Jill(vanderkitty@hotmail.com).

Thanks,

Mark

Hulltimate
Un poco loco

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This tournament is now full up. If places do become
available i will email the group. Thanks to those who
applied so quickly. 
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Hi All

SE Regional is hosteds by Angels at Brixton Rec Centre 23/24 Feb.

Cost £95

To secure a spot send a cheque to:

Si Barry
135 Southwyck House
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Good morning all!!

This is a very special email to all those people competing in our =
Mythago Tournie on the 9/10 FEB!  I think you'll find this very =
interesting, as it is the DIRECTIONS OF HOW TO GET HERE!!

The tournie will be held at:

Whitchurch Sports Centre
Bamfield
Whitchurch
Bristol, BS14 0XA
Tel: 0117 903 1464

I will include a link to streetmap.co.uk that you just click on (or copy =
and paste it into your internet provider) and the arrow is where you =
need to get to.  You can zoom out to find it on a larger scale with =
things like motorways etc.  (I tried to send a scanned image but it took =
up more than a 1 MB) Having failed this or if you need to know anything =
else, give me (Lewis) a ring on: 078 555 27983 and i'll send you a map =
or something.

Here is the link:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=3D359805&Y=3D167965&A=3DY&=
Z=3D1

The final list of who is coming is:
      Bad Habits=20
      Bears=20
      Disc Doctors=20
      Purple Haze 2=20
      Mohawks=20
      Mr Men=20
      Old Skool Haze=20
      OW!=20
      Purple Haze=20
      Skumy=20
      Slurrey Slingers=20
      Sublime=20
      Discophilia=20
      Uriel=20
      Picnic     =20
      Picnic2=20
      UWE=20


If the two PICNIC teams could send me cheques sometime soon, that would =
be great.

I'm just sorting out accomodation, so if you haven't emailed me already =
to say:
how many of you are coming,
If you want to stay Friday night and the Saturday or just the Saturday.

Accomodation is a bit scarce so its going to be a bit tight - but any of =
you that want to know of any hotels or B&B's just ask or try: yell.co.uk
The clifton area would be best, you might want to check if its close for =
our night out (in the city centre)/ pubs.

I think that's about it....

As always,

Lewis McFadyen
of Mythago
Tournament Director
and generally nice chap.



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good morning all!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is a very special email to all =
those people=20
competing in our Mythago Tournie on the 9/10 FEB!&nbsp; I think you'll =
find this=20
very interesting, as it is the DIRECTIONS OF HOW TO GET =
HERE!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The tournie will be held =
at:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whitchurch Sports Centre</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bamfield</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whitchurch</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bristol, BS14 0XA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tel: 0117 903 1464</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will include a link to =
streetmap.co.uk that you=20
just click on (or copy and paste it into your internet provider) and the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=3D359805&amp;Y=3D1=
67965&amp;A=3DY&amp;Z=3D1">http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=
=3D359805&amp;Y=3D167965&amp;A=3DY&amp;Z=3D1</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The final list of who is coming =
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Haze</TD></TR>
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12.75pt">Discophilia</TD></TR>
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12.75pt">Uriel</TD></TR>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If the two PICNIC teams could send me =
cheques=20
sometime soon, that would be great.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm just sorting out accomodation, so =
if you=20
haven't emailed me already to say:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>how many of you are =
coming,</FONT></DIV>
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the Saturday=20
or just the Saturday.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Accomodation is a bit scarce so its =
going to be a=20
bit tight - but any of you that want to know of any hotels or B&amp;B's =
just ask=20
or try: yell.co.uk</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The clifton area would be best, you =
might want to=20
check if its close for&nbsp;our night out (in the city centre)/=20
pubs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think that's about =
it....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As always,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lewis McFadyen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of Mythago</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tournament Director</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and generally nice chap.</FONT></DIV>
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Just to add to earlier notice that cheques for this event should be made out 
to Simon Barry (ahem)

Thank-you


This is not the details to follow, they are still to follow

ok, good

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Subject: Discs for free...
From: Jim McDonnell <jimbob@jimson.demon.co.uk>
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Hi BritDisc - if this message gets to you, that is - not too sure about the
address any more...

I have a big bag of Ultrastars (old white or orange British Open
1990-something); about 30 or 40 I think, some well used but some almost
unplayed: I also have 3 or 4 pitches worth of those orange corner marker
cones. All of these things are taking up valuable real estate at home, and
I'd like to give them away to the first person who's willing to come and
collect them. Ideal for a cash-strapped school team...

My address and phone -

15 Manor Park Road
East Finchley
London
N2 0SN

07976 720001

Cheers - 

Jim McDonnell 

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From: Jim McDonnell <jimbob@jimson.demon.co.uk>
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Thanks to all of you who've offered to take the discs and free up my
cupboard space - first come, first served got them so no more emails please!

Happy hucking

- Jim McDonnell 

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Morning All.

I know WUCC 2000 was a long time ago and you'll all have forgotten it,
but did anyone get any of the vides they made?  Or is anyone interested
in getting them?

I've been talking to Mark Kendall about the videos, and the postage +
cost of transacting in euros means that I wanted to check for other
players who might still want videos before I finalised the order.

There are 4 different videos [1 - lots of play 2 - almost all finals, 3
- publicity rough cuts, 4 - more random stuff], so if anyone else still
 wants some celluloid memories, please drop me a line.

Cheers,
-- 
Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk
www.leedsjedi.co.uk

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Hello everyone,
              Here are the results of the 2002 Warwick Indoors.

1 - Mexican Horse Bandits
2 - Space Monkeys
3 - BAF
4 - Bears 1
5 - Venom
6 - Purple Haze
7 - Skunks
8 - Kamaya Maya
9 - Angels       (Plate + Spirit)
10 - Bears 2
11 - Whiplash
12 - Slipdisc
13 - Block- Stack
14 - WAS
15 - North Warwickshire Bulls    (Spoon)
16 - South Warwickshire Moles

Thanks for all the teams for taking part and everyone who helped out. It
went really well and was really good fun to be organising. There was a good
final and several sub 20sec 3-pint challenge times! with the quickest at
15secs.

With great games and a great spirit all weekend you couldn't ask for much
more!.

Lost property - Grey trousers and an orange Nike jumper
Kamaya -  I have your vodka prize

Cheers all and I'll see you at a tournament soon,

JD

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Just clearing out my mailboxes when I came across that peach of a
discussion about when Nationals 'should' be held.

Just wondered if it might be of interest to anyone that Layout Dreams
have got Swindon booked for the w/e of 31/08 & 01/09.

It doesn't really fuss us what sort of event happens, but we're open to
the idea of CoEd or Open Nationals, complete with additional divisions
if needed - we should have 12 prime pitches, plenty of room for all
sorts of things!

Wayne



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Why don't we have Co-ed Nationals that weekend (31/8, 1/9) and Open
Nationals the 14th/15th September?

That way:
1) We still have Open Nationals as the finale to the season;
2) It's early enough in September we're likely (ish) to get reasonable
weather;
3) It's late enough that those of us taking our time getting back from
Hawaii can get back and have time for a pratice or two to work the cocktails
off;
4) The British Open could be whenever anyone wanted it to be on one of the
spare weekends (sorry - still haven't heard a convincing argument for
scheduling it in any kind of prioritised way and think having it during
Hawaii is a great idea);
5) I don't have to go to the arse-end of the world that is Swindon ;-)

Great idea Wayne!

Silver Bear
cu#1

See some of you at WL 4 in 12 days time. Bring on Poco Schmoco!

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 28 January 2002 21:24
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Nationals...



Just clearing out my mailboxes when I came across that peach of a
discussion about when Nationals 'should' be held.

Just wondered if it might be of interest to anyone that Layout Dreams
have got Swindon booked for the w/e of 31/08 & 01/09.

It doesn't really fuss us what sort of event happens, but we're open to
the idea of CoEd or Open Nationals, complete with additional divisions
if needed - we should have 12 prime pitches, plenty of room for all
sorts of things!

Wayne



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Roger,

It will take you more than a  practice or two to work off those
cocktails...

Jes





Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 29/01/2002
09:26:48

Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk


To:   "'Wayne Retter'" <wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk>,
      britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
cc:

Subject:  RE: Nationals...


Why don't we have Co-ed Nationals that weekend (31/8, 1/9) and Open
Nationals the 14th/15th September?

That way:
1) We still have Open Nationals as the finale to the season;
2) It's early enough in September we're likely (ish) to get reasonable
weather;
3) It's late enough that those of us taking our time getting back from
Hawaii can get back and have time for a pratice or two to work the
cocktails
off;
4) The British Open could be whenever anyone wanted it to be on one of the
spare weekends (sorry - still haven't heard a convincing argument for
scheduling it in any kind of prioritised way and think having it during
Hawaii is a great idea);
5) I don't have to go to the arse-end of the world that is Swindon ;-)

Great idea Wayne!

Silver Bear
cu#1

See some of you at WL 4 in 12 days time. Bring on Poco Schmoco!

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 28 January 2002 21:24
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Nationals...



Just clearing out my mailboxes when I came across that peach of a
discussion about when Nationals 'should' be held.

Just wondered if it might be of interest to anyone that Layout Dreams
have got Swindon booked for the w/e of 31/08 & 01/09.

It doesn't really fuss us what sort of event happens, but we're open to
the idea of CoEd or Open Nationals, complete with additional divisions
if needed - we should have 12 prime pitches, plenty of room for all
sorts of things!

Wayne



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Hello Britdisc women

There is an open women's training session at Regents Park, London on
Saturday. This is an open session so if you fancy doing drills, fitness
training and playing then do come along. All standards welcome. Please bring
light and dark tops and if anyone has any cones then please do bring these
along too - thanks!

Meet in front of the zoo at Regents Park, London at 1.30pm on Saturday 2
February. I can be contacted on mb 07971 796739 / hm 020 7501 9951 if need
be. 

Cheers, and see you Saturday

Sally
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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Hello Britdisc women</FONT>
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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">There is an open women's training =
session at Regents Park, London on Saturday. This is an open session so =
if you fancy doing drills, fitness training and playing then do come =
along. All standards welcome. Please bring light and dark tops and if =
anyone has any cones then please do bring these along too - =
thanks!</FONT></P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Meet in front of the zoo at Regents =
Park, London at 1.30pm on Saturday 2 February. I can be contacted on mb =
07971 796739 / hm 020 7501 9951 if need be. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Cheers, and see you Saturday</FONT>
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<P><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Sally</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Mavis</FONT>
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Hello,

Here is the last reminder for the Loughborough Student Indoors 2002. We have 
now extended the tournament to 64 teams, making it the biggest indoor Ultimate 
tournament in the world. Thanks to all of you who responded in good time. 
Please contact me with your team contact address so I can send out the 
Captain's packs before the tournament.

Below is a list of teams who still haven't paid. YOU HAVE UNDER A WEEK OR YOU 
WILL LOSE YOUR PLACE. The deadline is the 4th of February. I will stick to it.

Cheers,

Luke/Lowg

Bears (1,2+women)
Fish (1+women+div3)
Sublime (1,2+div3)
Phat 'Eds.
Ow! (1,2+women)
Ro-Sham-Bo
Shooting Stars
Picnic
Mwnci See (women+div3)
Grantham (women+div3)
Mythago (women)
Mohawks (women+div3)
Old Haze (1+2)
Venom
Flaming Monkeys
Aye Aye

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

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Hello,

The following directions should get you there ok but feel free to get 
further directions/maps from Multimap.com, Streetmap.co.uk, etc.  The 
event is being held at:

Beverley Leisure Centre
Flemingate
Beverley
HU17 0LT
01482 881127
Map: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?pc=HU170LT

The Leisure centre is reasonably obvious but as a point of reference 
it's right next to 'Hodgeson's' pub and more or less opposite the 
Army Transport Museum which is signposted all around Beverley.


>From the M62:

Follow the M62 signposted Hull which eventually becomes the A63.
Turn Left onto the A164 signposted Beverley.
Follow the A164 approx 10 miles to Beverley which involves numerous 
roundabouts - basically keep going straight and follow the main road.
Once in the built-up area of Beverley you will reach two mini-
roundabouts very close together.  Go straight across the first and 
right at the second onto Keldgate(B1230).  Follow the road about 0.5 
miles to a t-junction.  Turn right. Follow the road over the railway 
lines and you'll see the Army Transport Museum on your left and 
Beverley Leisure Centre on your right.

>From York:

>From York head towards Hull on the A1079.  After passing through the 
village of Bishop Burton (where you'll see a very picturesque pond on 
your right) you come to a large roundabout.  Go straight across 
(signposted Beverley) past the racecourse on your left.  Keep going 
for a mile or two to reach a t-junction with traffic lights.  Turn 
left and immediately right.  You quickly reach a roundabout, approach 
it in the right hand lane and turn right.  Follow the road (staying 
in the right hand lane) straight across a crossroads to a small 
roundabout, turn right here and then take your first left on 
Eastgate.  Follow the road across the train track where you'll see 
the Army Transport museum on your left and the Leisure Centre on your 
right.

>From Hull (for those staying on friday night):

The people you're staying with will be able to get you on the A1079 
(known as 'Beverley Road' in Hull). Follow this road out of Hull. 
About 5 miles(?) outside Hull you'll hit a fast dual carriageway 
section with a turn-off left on to the A164 signposted Beverley. You 
are now on the A164 mentioned in the 'from the M62' directions, about 
2 miles from Beverley.


>From anywhere else:

The above are the only two major roads to Beverley, so if you decide 
to come a different way then tough.  I'm sure you can improvise and 
look on a map because you'll basically have to join up with the Hull 
directions (A164) or the York directions (A1079) anyway!

By Train:

To get to Beverley by train you really need to come either through 
York (approx 1 train per hour) or more likely Hull (trains at approx 
quarter to and quarter past the hour).
As you come out of the train station turn left and follow the road, 
bearing right, until you hit Flemingate.  Turn left and the Leisure 
Centre is on your right opposite the Army Transport Museum.  It 
probably best to look at this map:
 <http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=hu170lt&Z=1>
The arrow shows the Leisure Centre and the big red blob is the 
station. You exit the station to the west on Trinity Lane.  It's only 
about 10 minutes walk from the train station to the Leisure Centre.

Any problems feel free to ring Simon on 07811 497474 or even better 
the Leisure Centre on 01482 881127.

For those of you travelling on the friday night Jill WILL be in 
touch. If you do need to contact her the address is 
vanderkitty@hotmail.com.

Anyway hope that all makes sense,

Mark



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Hi all,

This weekend Portsmouth uni (Sublime) are running a mini tournament at =
the Mountbatten in Portsmouth.

I've just booked an extra hour and have decided that we need one more =
team to make this work well. It's from 2 - 6pm, but we have two pitches =
for one of those hours making 5 hours in total.

You will get a minimum of 1 hr 20 min pitch time which is what you'd get =
if you played one day at a full tournament.

To cost is =A32 each player.

Obvoiusly cos it's only one day, you probably can play iron man. So why =
not grab your mates a come down??!

Good venue....cafe....balcony etc

Why not

Cheers

Lewis

loopy1019@hotmail.com
www.sublimeultimate.co.uk

carpo orbis

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This weekend Portsmouth uni (Sublime) =
are running a=20
mini tournament at the Mountbatten in Portsmouth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've just booked an extra hour and have =
decided=20
that we need one more team to make this work well. It's from 2 - 6pm, =
but we=20
have two pitches for one of those hours making 5 hours in =
total.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You will get a minimum of 1 hr 20 min =
pitch time=20
which is what you'd get if you played one day at a full =
tournament.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To cost is =A32 each =
player.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Obvoiusly cos it's only one day, you =
probably can=20
play iron man. So why not grab your mates a come down??!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good venue....cafe....balcony =
etc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lewis</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:loopy1019@hotmail.com">loopy1019@hotmail.com</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.sublimeultimate.co.uk">www.sublimeultimate.co.uk</A></=
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Sorry, forgot to say...it's on sunday!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Subject: Mini Portsmouth tournie


  Hi all,

  This weekend Portsmouth uni (Sublime) are running a mini tournament at =
the Mountbatten in Portsmouth.

  I've just booked an extra hour and have decided that we need one more =
team to make this work well. It's from 2 - 6pm, but we have two pitches =
for one of those hours making 5 hours in total.

  You will get a minimum of 1 hr 20 min pitch time which is what you'd =
get if you played one day at a full tournament.

  To cost is =A32 each player.

  Obvoiusly cos it's only one day, you probably can play iron man. So =
why not grab your mates a come down??!

  Good venue....cafe....balcony etc

  Why not

  Cheers

  Lewis

  loopy1019@hotmail.com
  www.sublimeultimate.co.uk

  carpo orbis

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title=3Dbritdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk=20
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href=3D"mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk">britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</A>=
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dstudent-ultimate@yahoogroups.com=20
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href=3D"mailto:student-ultimate@yahoogroups.com">student-ultimate@yahoogr=
oups.com</A>=20
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2002 5:13=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Mini Portsmouth =
tournie</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This weekend Portsmouth uni (Sublime) =
are running=20
  a mini tournament at the Mountbatten in Portsmouth.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've just booked an extra hour and =
have decided=20
  that we need one more team to make this work well. It's from 2 - 6pm, =
but we=20
  have two pitches for one of those hours making 5 hours in =
total.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You will get a minimum of 1 hr 20 min =
pitch time=20
  which is what you'd get if you played one day at a full=20
  tournament.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To cost is =A32 each =
player.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Obvoiusly cos it's only one day, you =
probably can=20
  play iron man. So why not grab your mates a come down??!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good venue....cafe....balcony =
etc</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why not</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lewis</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>carpo =
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I was sent this by a friend.  as it tells you not to do somthing rather than 
doing somthing Im passing it on.  

Phil Richardson
(AKA Scraggy Fil)




> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:55 AM
> Subject: Mobile phone scam
> 
> 
> There is a mobile phone scam going around the comes in the the form of an
> SMS. The message will say something along the lines of "Please phone
> 09011500065 Urgent " it will say it is from KB. DO NOT ring this number as
> it is a premium rate number charged at L5 per minute.All you get is an
> engaged tone which is a recording. This will make you phone over and over
> again and you are charged.Please pass this message on to your friends.
> 
> Best Regards.
> David Ross.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica>I was sent this by a friend.&nbsp; as it tells you not to do somthing rather than doing somthing Im passing it on.&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
Phil Richardson<BR>
(AKA Scraggy Fil)<BR>
<BR>
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There is a mobile phone scam going around the comes in the the form of an<BR>
SMS. The message will say something along the lines of "Please phone<BR>
09011500065 Urgent " it will say it is from KB. DO NOT ring this number as<BR>
it is a premium rate number charged at L5 per minute.All you get is an<BR>
engaged tone which is a recording. This will make you phone over and over<BR>
again and you are charged.Please pass this message on to your friends.<BR>
<BR>
Best Regards.<BR>
David Ross.<BR>
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For the first time I am forwarding a 'scam' e-mail.  On the principal that
this one could be true, whereas all the other ones I've received are
blatantly crap this one is possible, so I thought I'd let you decide...

M

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:55 AM
Subject: Mobile phone scam


There is a mobile phone scam going around the comes in the the form of an
SMS. The message will say something along the lines of "Please phone
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it is a premium rate number charged at L5 per minute.All you get is an
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Checking the events diary I've noticed that Tour II clashes with 2
continental tournaments. Is that a strong enough argument to look at moving
Tour II to another date? Before I get my head bitten off, I know the diary
was organized around other international events, I just wondered if there's
scope at this point to make changes to accomodate other popular continental
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I'd like to 2nd that and also request to keep my head. 
Tour II also seems to clash heavily with student exam time in Nottingham.
 
Steve

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 31 January 2002 16:52
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Subject: Tour II


Checking the events diary I've noticed that Tour II clashes with 2 continental tournaments. Is that a strong enough argument to look at moving Tour II to another date? Before I get my head bitten off, I know the diary was organized around other international events, I just wondered if there's scope at this point to make changes to accomodate other popular continental tournaments.
 
VITO
 

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Can anyone tell me how I/my team are supposed to register for the official Uk ultimate events?
  The website (UKultimate.com) doesn't appear to have any info, and with indoor qualifiers in roughly 3 weeks I'd like to get it out of the way.
 Of course I may have completely missed all the vital information which everyone else has, if so could someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks.

Philip Webb
Far Flung, Mud Culture.

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Phil,

It will all be announced very soon.

Cheers

Ben
President
UK Ultimate

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Webb" <9800137W@student.gla.ac.uk>
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> Can anyone tell me how I/my team are supposed to register for the official
Uk ultimate events?
>   The website (UKultimate.com) doesn't appear to have any info, and with
indoor qualifiers in roughly 3 weeks I'd like to get it out of the way.
>  Of course I may have completely missed all the vital information which
everyone else has, if so could someone point me in the right direction?
> Thanks.
>
> Philip Webb
> Far Flung, Mud Culture.
>
>

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Can anyone tell me how I/my team are supposed to register for the official Uk ultimate events?
  The website (UKultimate.com) doesn't appear to have any info, and with indoor qualifiers in roughly 3 weeks I'd like to get it out of the way.
 Of course I may have completely missed all the vital information which everyone else has, if so could someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks.

Philip Webb
Far Flung, Mud Culture.

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Sorry, can't honour that request to keep your head...

To be fair there are plenty of Student-only tournaments which us oldies can't
enter so the fact that some of you can't make Tour 2 'cos of exams should be
something you have to sort out.

Also, every year we see student teams entering Tours 1 and 2, then all the
players go home for the summer and they don't enter Tours 3 and 4.  This means
they ruin the chance for open teams to get a true national ranking, because they
fill up places in Tours 1 and 2 and then don't finish the season.

What we need are more non-Tour events being organised over the summer because
the situation at the moment means that if you don't have enough girls in your
club to play co-ed then you miss out on half of the tournaments of the summer.
If there were more of these 'fun' events then maybe students teams wouldn't mind
missing Tour 2 because of exams?

We're going to organise one, so let's have some more.

Si  (Slipdisc)





Giguere Stephen-BLUW31 <sgiguere@motorola.com> on 31/01/2002 17:21:08

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Subject:  RE: Tour II



I'd like to 2nd that and also request to keep my head.
Tour II also seems to clash heavily with student exam time in Nottingham.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Adriano Vitali [mailto:avitali@ptc.com]
Sent: 31 January 2002 16:52
To: 'Britdisc'
Subject: Tour II


Checking the events diary I've noticed that Tour II clashes with 2 continental
tournaments. Is that a strong enough argument to look at moving Tour II to
another date? Before I get my head bitten off, I know the diary was organized
around other international events, I just wondered if there's scope at this
point to make changes to accomodate other popular continental tournaments.

VITO








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Just in case any of you are interested, here is a link to the Birmingham
Sport section of the BBC Online site which has an article relating to
Ultimate in general, and more specifically our wonderful new BIRMINGHAM
BEGINNERS AND OPEN TOURNAMENTS which are being held in the second city in
March. (I also happen to know there is a similar kind of article on the
Oxford section as written by Jon Hope.)

This is not me blowing my own trumpet, but just a pointer saying that we can
get easy publicity if we try (Mine took one e-mail, and then writing the
article), and we can all raise the profile of our sport.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/sport/index.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/oxford/entertainment/stufftodo/stufftodo_index_f.shtml

By the way, this is not an invitation for people to spend the next couple of
days trying to pick mistakes in my article, or question why the BBC woman
decided to label the second picture "Professional Frisbee Players".
(Although I would imagine that the players in the picture would now have
some questions to ask about where their match fees went)

Thank you for your time.

> ___________________________________
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interested, here is a link to the Birmingham Sport section of the BBC =
Online site which has an article relating to Ultimate in general, and =
more specifically our wonderful new BIRMINGHAM BEGINNERS AND OPEN =
TOURNAMENTS which are being held in the second city in March. (I also =
happen to know there is a similar kind of article on the Oxford section =
as written by Jon Hope.)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">This is not me blowing my own trumpet, =
but just a pointer saying that we can get easy publicity if we try =
(Mine took one e-mail, and then writing the article), and we can all =
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HREF=3D"http://www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/sport/index.shtml" =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">By the way, this is not an invitation =
for people to spend the next couple of days trying to pick mistakes in =
my article, or question why the BBC woman decided to label the second =
picture &quot;Professional Frisbee Players&quot;. (Although I would =
imagine that the players in the picture would now have some questions =
to ask about where their match fees went)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thank you for your time.</FONT>
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Fair enough there are those student teams who dont complete the whole season, and therefore missing t2 shouldnt be a problem but  there are those teams like nottingham, and my guys, leeds jedi as well who do complete the tour and want to do as well as we can against good oppostion.
 european tournies represent just as legimate reason for LOOKING AT the scheduling of tour 2 and generally some of us students do find it hard to decide how much we can sacrifice ultimate/uni for the other so i personnally dont want to be lumped in with those who dont or cant
finish the tour  for whatever reason, and i'm sure it would be appreciated if the logistics of tour 2 
could be looked at

 one good reason for students not getting weekends off in the summer is crappy jobs to pay off our student loans :-) 

Gaz

Leeds Jedi



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Hello Britdisc,

On March 2/3 the Bongos Disc Sports Club are co-ordinating a disc sports 
weekend in Aylesbury.

We will be setting up a Disc Golf course (baskets) + Double Disc Court 
(DDC) pitches + Goaltimate pitch.

The main event is the British Disc Golf Association's Doubles Matchplay, 
taking place over Saturday and Sunday.

We've added a new concept to the weekend called the 'Disc Sports Day Pass'. 
This allows players to play all three disc sports and choose which day to play.

The bad news is that you can't play in the Doubles Matchplay and take the 
Day Pass option.

Anyone and everyone welcome.

confused?

There's much more info on the website:
www.discgolf.co.uk/doubles

Have a good weekend.

Richard
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Britdisc

I'm interested in entering a team to Rotterdam, it
says 9th May on the ukultimate website.
Can anybody direct me to the info about this
tournament? cos its not on Ultilinks or ukultimate or
anywhere else I've tried.

Cheers
Ben 
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I would have thought that exam times for students accross the country vary enough that it would be impossible to accomadate all of them. 

I'm lucky in that the tour schedule fits nicely round my exams, but moving tour II any later would make it hard for me to attend.

I would think many other students are in similar situations and to move a tour because of a couple of Uni's exams is not reasonable.

Not that it shouldn't be looked at/thought about...


Crispy
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>Fair enough there are those student teams who dont complete the whole season, and therefore missing t2 shouldnt be a problem but  there are those teams like nottingham, and my guys, leeds jedi as well who do complete the tour and want to do as well as we can against good oppostion.
> european tournies represent just as legimate reason for LOOKING AT the scheduling of tour 2 and generally some of us students do find it hard to decide how much we can sacrifice ultimate/uni for the other so i personnally dont want to be lumped in with those who dont or cant
>finish the tour  for whatever reason, and i'm sure it would be appreciated if the logistics of tour 2 
>could be looked at
>
> one good reason for students not getting weekends off in the summer is crappy jobs to pay off our student loans :-) 
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Hi

I dont know who is trying to organise the team/practise sessions in Harrow 
but i am interested in playing. If someone could get back to me with more 
information i would be grateful.

Cheers

Rob (minx/sloppy)

(ex picnic)


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Here's what one of the tournament directors recently said about Harbour
2002 when I enquired.

There is no website. They don't usually advertise on Ultilinks - the
tournament is generally big enough not to need to :)

Wayne

> Hi Wayne,
>
> Sorry for the late reaction.
>
> It is happening..... we're working on it.
> The thing is that there are 'junior-airbreakers' being born all-over
> the place..
> and I'm not joking!
>
> This causes a very tight 'time-planning management' as you can
> imagine.
>
> We will send the invitations a.s.a.p.
>
>
> right back at ya'
>
> Sander Ladenius

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The teams so far entered in the WSM indoor qualifier
are:

BAF
BAF Too
Uriel
Uriel II
Airforce
Sharks
UWE
Discult
No Frills
Sublime
Mythago
SNOAP

Therefore there are only eight remaining places for
teams. You will need to get cheques in the post soon
to guarentee a slot.

For those of you who can't remember the details, they
are copied in below. 

This is my three-weekly email slot, so once again any
questions are best addressed by phone or text to 07815
126573.

Cheers,

Si Weeks

> The event will be held on the weekend of the
> 23rd/24th
> of February at the Hutton Moor Leisure Centre in
> Weston-Super-Mare. This is located just three miles
> from junction 21 of the M5. The venue has a large
> sized hall (36m by 32m), so can be divided into two
> sizeable pitches. The leisure centre also has a
> swimming pool, squash courts, tennis, etc.
> 
> On the Saturday night the party will include a DJ
> and
> all being well a late licence until midnight. The
> party will be on the same site as the tournament and
> for those who really want to minimise their
> non-ultimate exercise to 30 seconds walking, there
> is
> also accommodation on site. This is a Travel Inn,
> which costs £20.95 per person based on two people
> sharing.
> 
> There is a plethora of alternative accommodation
> available in Weston-Super-Mare town centre, which is
> just 1.5 miles away. The following B&B prices are
> based on August rates, so you should be able to get
> some good discount. Plenty more B&Bs are available
> on
> request.
> 
> Blakeney, 01934 624772, £14 per night B&B
> Vaynor, 01934 632332, £14 per night B&B
> Fourways, 01934 623827, £15 per night B&B
> Holly Lodge, 01934 415163, £15 per night B&B
> Holmleigh, 01934 629070, £15 per night B&B
> Arilas, 01934 628283, £16 per night B&B
> Flora Glen, 01934 620592, £16 per night B&B
> Four Seasons, 01934 631124, £16 per night B&B
> Goodrington, 01934 623229, £16 per night B&B
> Hotel Soraya, 01934 629043, £16 per night B&B
> Kenilworth, 01934 629398, £16 per night B&B
> 
> Entries will be accepted on a first-come,
> first-served
> basis. The cost per team is £80. Please send cheques
> to Si Weeks, 23 Shepards Close, Fareham, PO14 3AJ.
> If
> you have any queries phoning is much more reliable  
> than email. I can always call you back.

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Im thinking of starting a website for FlyTNT, and was
considering doing a little research into the history
of the club (origins, lineups, key members etc). Can
anybody who has played for the club (Vito, Jack, Marco
etc) and is interested in contributing please get in
touch.

dan
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<DIV>Some words to go with the streepmap link i sent earlier, which is again:</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=359805&amp;Y=167965&amp;A=Y&amp;Z=1">http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=359805&amp;Y=167965&amp;A=Y&amp;Z=1</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Whitchurch Sports Centre<BR>&nbsp;Bamfield<BR>&nbsp;Whitchurch<BR>&nbsp;Bristol, BS14 0XA<BR>&nbsp;Tel: 0117 903 1464</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Directions to Whitchurch Sports Centre from the bottom of the M32: -</DIV>
<DIV>At the bottom of the M32 you want to turn left towards Temple Meads train<BR>station, Bath &amp; the A4. After approx. half a mile you will pass Temple<BR>Meads station (it'll be on your left). Shortly after the station the road<BR>splits and you want to bear right on the A37 (signposted towards Yeovil,<BR>Wells A39). After approx. 1.5 miles turn right (at traffic lights) onto<BR>A4174 Airport Road. After approx. 1 mile there is a set of traffic lights<BR>(with a pub called the Happy Cock on the left of you), turn left ontoBamfield. The sports centre is on the right of this road after about 1<BR>mile.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Directions to Whitchurch Sports Centre from Bath: -</DIV>
<DIV>Head into Bristol on the A4. Approx 1.5 miles after you have left the<BR>Keynsham bypass turn left onto the A4174 (signposted Ring Road). After<BR>approx. 2 miles there is a set of traffic lights (with a pub called the<BR>Happy Cock on the left of you), turn left onto Bamfield. The sports centre<BR>is on the right of this road after about 1 mile.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>THE CAPTAIN'S MEETING WILL BE AT THE SPORTS CENTRE AT 9.15 AM ON THE SAT, WHERE ALL FURTHER SCHEDULES AND THINGS WILL BE EXPLAINED.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Until then,</DIV>
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Dear BD
I'll be in Glasgow and Edinburgh over the coming weekend and was wondering 
if there's any pick-up games or practices that I could come along to. If you 
know where and when please mail me.
Ta
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>There will be a weekly outdoor women's practice at Regent's Park (by the zoo, buildings with the green rooftops)&nbsp;starting at noon on Saturdays.&nbsp; Any women that are interested in participating are welcome to come!&nbsp; Full teams are encouraged to attend and scrimmage against Princess Layout and Mavis, both London-based teams that are looking for competition.&nbsp; </DIV>
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Hello Britdisc,

The Government has a sports/art funding scheme called 'Awards For All'.

My club, the Bongos Disc Sports Club (supported by the BDGA), has made an 
'Awards For All' application to fund a project to install a public disc 
golf course in Ealing, West London.

I'm sure there must be other UK flying disc clubs that may have ideas that 
would benefit from this funding opportunity.

"The main aim of the Awards For All is to support projects which are open 
and accessible to the community, allowing people to enjoy a wide range of 
activities.
The fund supports projects which enable people to take part in sport, art, 
heritage and community activities, as well as projects that promote 
education, the environment and health in the local community."

Grant applications must be between £500.00 and £5,000.00

Only available to non-profit making clubs/organisations.

I received a lot of support and guidance from my local council regarding 
the application. There is definitely a formula which if followed will give 
your application a much better chance of success.

I am very happy to pass on what I know to any clubs who are interested. At 
the very least your club/organisation will need a constitution and a bank 
account. I have a template for a club constitution that anyone is welcome 
to use.

If anyone wants to apply for a grant to install a public disc golf course 
then you can use my application as a guide.

After 5 years of hassling Ealing Council they have finally come round and 
have given the Bongos their full support to introduce the UK's only public 
disc golf course in the Capital. All we need is the money!

If anyone is interested here's the contact details.
tel 0845 600 2040 (just ask for an Awards For All Application Pack)

Hope this is useful to someone.

Maybe see you at the Bongos Disc Sports Weekend 0n 2/3 March in Aylesbury 
www.discgolf.co.uk/doubles

Regards,

Richard Sampson
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020 8575 1564
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HI,

Thanks to all of you who entered the Loughborough Student Indoors 2002. All the 
spaces are now full. The deadline was yesterday. Only Picnic did not respond at 
all. They have consequently lost their space and Mythago 2 (next in their 
division) now qualify for Division 2 (NTN). Skumy have been offered Mythago\'s 
place in the Old Skool Division. 

Below is a list of all the teams entered. Please check to see that your details 
are in order. I still require details about accommodation from some of you. We 
have space to accommodate everybody on both nights. You need to get your team 
lists to me by the end of the week or you won\'t get in the party. It doesn\'t 
matter if there are people on the list who don\'t come. Round up rather than 
trying to be accurate if that is difficult.

Thanks, this will be massive.

Luke

Nationals:

Bears - Accommodation? - Team List?
Far Flung - Team List?
Strange Blue - Accommodation? - Team List?
Fish 
Mythago - Team List?
Purple Haze
Positive Mojo 
Sublime - Team List?
Phat \'Eds 
No Frills 
Ow! - Accommodation? - Team List?
Flatball Project - Team List?
Disc Doctors - Team List?
Jedi - Accommodation? 
Uriel
Fly TNT - Team List?

Division 2:

Purple Kennies
Ro Sham Bo - Team List?
Brunel 
Disciples - Team List?
BLT - Team List?
Jesters - Accommodation? - Team List?
Shooting Stars 
Kings
YBK - Accommodation? - 
Bears 2 - Accommodation? - Team List?
Far Flung 2 - Team List?
Sublime 2 - Team List?
Northern Lights 1 
UWE - Team List?
Ow! 2 - Accommodation? - Team List?
Mythago 2 - Team List? - Team List?

Women\'s Student Nationals:

Mwnci Wench - Team List?
Fish Women 
Flatball Project Women - Team List?
Grantham Women 
Bears Women - Accommodation? - Team List?
Ow! Women - Accommodation?  - Team List?
York Women - Accommodation?  - Team List?
Jedi Women - Accommodation? - Team List?
Cardiff Angels 
Skunks Women - Team List? Address?
Mythago Women - Team List?
Mohawks Women - Team List?

Old Skool:

Old Haze 1 - Team List?
Old Haze 2 - Team List?
Mohawks - Team List?
Aurora Borealis
Hultimate
Old York - Accommodation?  - Team List?
Old Sublime
Venom - Team List?
Fish 2
York 2 - Accommodation? - Team List?
Grantham
Purple Ronnies
Flaming Monkeys- Team List?
Jedi 2 - Accommodation? - Team List?
Disc Doctors 2 - Team List?
Mwnci See - Team List?
Jesters 2 - Team List?
Skumy - Accommodation? - Team List? - Address?
Aye Aye - Team List?
Skunks - Team List? Address?




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Can all those who have entered Slipdisc's beginners tournament on the 2nd/3rd
March, please reply to my e-mail about party numbers.  I need to tell the nice
bar manager roughly how many people she should expect so that she can put enough
staff on.  If more people turn up later then there will be queues at the bar,
and it'll be all your fault!

Also, if you didn't get my earlier mail it means I don't have the right e-mail
address for you, can you let me know this or you won't get directions in a
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having the right e-mail address thing!

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Dear all,

We're very pleased to announce the appointment of Nicola-Jane Unwin as
Administrator to UK Ultimate - our very first paid employee.

Many thanks to the other candidates - you were excellent and you made our
decision an extremely difficult one!

Ben Ravilious
On behalf of UK Ultimate


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  Good evening one and all.

I hope everyone understands the link for directions to our tournament.

CAPTAINS' MEETING ON SATURDAY MORN, 9.15AM!

For all those coming down to Bristol on the FRIDAY, we will be meeting =
in the University of Bristol's Union.  This means that you could have =
two nights out in bristol... Please give me a ring to say what time =
you'll be arriving so i can tell your hosts.

The directions are on the link below (the arrow is our union), and is =
quite easy to get to from the M32 entrance.  I don't think its too bad =
from the M5 but i have to admit i don't really know (coming off at =
Junction 19 and then along the A369 and over the suspension bridge would =
be your best bet methinks).

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=3D357535&Y=3D173285&A=3DY&=
Z=3D1
We are accomodating the following teams, please make sure that your team =
is on here!! and if the numbers are going to be different, or if you're =
coming down on a different day then give me a shout.

FRIDAY NIGHT - 9 Discdoctors
FRIDAY NIGHT - 9 Purple Haze 1
FRIDAY NIGHT - 8 Purple Haze 2
FRIDAY NIGHT - 14 Mohawks
FRIDAY NIGHT - 8 Picnic 1
FRIDAY NIGHT - 8 Picnic 2

SATURDAY MORN - 7 Bears
SATURDAY MORN - 9 OW!
SATURDAY MORN - 9 Sublime
SATURDAY MORN - 10 Uriel

Everyone else i have as sorting out their own accomodation - thanks very =
much!!

Thanks all, and see you Fri/ Sat

Lewis McFadyen
of Mythago
Tournament Director
and generally nice chap

Mob: 078 555 27983


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;Good evening one and =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope everyone understands the link =
for directions=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CAPTAINS' MEETING ON SATURDAY MORN,=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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we will be meeting in the University of Bristol's Union.&nbsp; This =
means that=20
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what=20
time you'll be arriving so i can tell your hosts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The directions are on the link below =
(the arrow is=20
our union)</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>, and is quite easy to get =
to from the=20
M32 entrance. &nbsp;I don't think its too bad from the M5 but i have to =
admit i=20
don't really know (coming off at Junction 19 and then along the A369 and =
over=20
the suspension bridge would be your best bet methinks).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FRIDAY NIGHT - 9=20
Discdoctors</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FRIDAY NIGHT - 9 Purple =
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FRIDAY NIGHT - 8 Purple =
Haze=20
2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FRIDAY NIGHT - 14 =
Mohawks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FRIDAY NIGHT - 8 Picnic =
1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FRIDAY NIGHT - 8 Picnic =
2</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SATURDAY MORN - 7 =
Bears</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SATURDAY MORN - 9 =
OW!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SATURDAY MORN - 9 =
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Sat</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tournament =
Director</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and generally nice chap</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mob: 078 555 27983</FONT></DIV>
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[NB Do not reply to this account - send to Andrew Robinson (aka Eddie,
it seems). Sam]

From: andrew.robinson@royalhaskoning.com 
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:26:35 -0000
Subject: Help required
Reply-to: andrew.robinson@royalhaskoning.com 

Hi

I've started an Ultimate club at work, Posford Haskoning (previously 
Posford Duvivier), in Peterborough. Yes it could turn out into a nice 
abbreviated name: P.H.U.C.

We play every wednesday lunch time, but since there's only me 
who's played before (a few years back for Jedi) it's not so easy to 
show/ teach them things like stacks etc.

Anyway I had this brainwave that if some one else who'd played 
before came along once in a while, it would make it a hell of a lot 
easier to teach them Ultimate and then we could start having 
friendlies with other teams, go to tournaments and become world 
champions............ or maybe not.

So if you're near to Peterborough and free on wednesday lunch 
times (could maybe change time/ day), drop us a line.

cheers

eddie



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From: "Charlie" <charles.mead@easynet.co.uk> 
Subject: Change of circumstances requiring your patience
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:24:04 -0000

Dear friends, colleagues and all on my mailing list.

My personal circumstances have changed and this mail is to let you know
some new details.

My home address will be:

23, Sir Johns Road
Selly Park
Birmingham
B29 7EP
England

As of Tuesday 12th February.

My mobile remains the same as:

+44- (0)7802-321710

My work number is:

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If you have sent me a mail in the past 10 days please be patient. I
have had no access to my mail. When I move I will be on line daily and
will catch up with you all.

If you receive this and wonder why, then apologies.

Thank you for your indulgence. The world will be put to rights. Roll on
the season. Paganello and Hawaii will be epic.


Charlie Mead
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Here are the teams entered so far to the SE regional on 22/23 Feb

Night Fever
Yo Mama
Angels
Angels
Strange Blue
Strange Blue
Hammerage
Mohawks
Mohawks
Playthings
UCL
Surrey
Surrey
Lurkers
Bad Habits
Hammerage Co-ed

Awaiting Confirmation from Venue....
Bad Habits 2
Angels 3?

There are 16 teams confirmed.  I am trying to confirm some extra hours  with 
the venue so that we can accommodate up to 20 teams.  This is looking likely 
to succeed so if there are any more teams out there then you can still 
enter.

I'll post tourny details once I've got this sorted.

Si B/Angels

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Just a note to let you know who is in

Please consider these seedings, they are avereages from this years indoor 
events.  If you feel your teams seeding is incorrect, this is you only
opportunity to say something - email Samanir@breathe.com

Directions will follow shortly, although the event is in the same
location as both indoor events last year. CLIFTON Campus, Nottingham TRENT uni


1	Red
2	Bears
3	Purple Haze
4	Purple Haze 2
5	Jesters
6	Kamaya Maya
7	Skunks
8	Bears 2
9	FlyTNT
10	Random Fling
11	Whiplash
12	Block Stack
13	Slip-e-disc
14	FlyghtClub
15	FlyTNT 2
16	Skunks 2
17	Discophilia
18	Mental Disc
19	Purple Haze 3
20	Ultimate Pickup (unless there is anyone still looking)


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From: "Alan Harding" <alan_harding28@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Need an extra player for this weekend @ Loughborough 
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:03:18 +0000
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BD,

Sorry to use Britdisc in this way, but does any open team going to 
Loughborough this weekend need an extra player?


I have been playing for a while, about 7yrs! And the teams I have played for 
are Discult, GB Juniors, Can I Have A 'D' Please Bob, Phat 'Eds and Uriel to 
name a few.

If think you can help please email me ==> alan_harding28@hotmail.com


Thanks,

Alan

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Roger

Thanks for a great day - we thoroghly enjoyed the lessons we have taken from 
both Clapham games.  Dont worry, there wont be any photo's, but a belief 
within the team that we can beat you!!

See you in two weeks

Milk

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From: Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com> 
Subject: News from London Winter League Matchday#4 
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:43:52 -0000

Another cracking day of outdoor ultimate on Clapham Common saw more upsets
than ever (3 out of 16 games) - and one team took £50 off me for beating a
Clapham team! Well done TeamShark for winning a keenly contested pool game
10-7 against a far-from-understaffed Clapham 2. I'm sure you'll send the
photos round Britdisc soon enough...

1/ Clapham 1
2/ TeamShark
3/ Clapham 2
4/ Fluid Druids
5/ Un Poco Loco
6/ Smash & Grab
7/ NightFever
8/ Red

The final saw the Clapham 1 team, having beaten the Druids 13-1 in the game
before, come up against a Sharks team full of confidence after their
historic win. But lightning never strikes twice and the Clapham team were in
the mood to show their teammates just why they were the first team; the
Sharks suffered a 15-3 battering they won't forget in a while, and the
Clapham coach went home happy that the military-grade practice schedule is
starting to pay off handsomely (at least for half of us..).

Un Poco Loco fared much as expected, retaining their seeding - but they
didn't manage to get past the Druids in pool play as they'd have liked to.
Smash & Grab and NightFever both beat the midland visitors Red, who had been
seeded 6th and would have  been relegated had this not been the last in the
series!

The London Winter League Final is on Saturday March 2nd so that we can share
more than a few beers afterwards rather than worrying about work the next
day. More details to follow soon. A month after that it'll be Tour 1
somewhere; it's going to be interesting to see how much good the Winter
League has done the participating teams.

Why anyone was playing indoors over such a beautiful weekend is beyond me
:-)

Silver Bear
cu#1

PS Milky, you're a scumbag for running off without paying. One of your
teammates kindly stumped up on your behalf and will no doubt hit you for the
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Subject: Re: [londonleague] News from London Winter League Matchday#4
From: Gareth Jones <gareth.jones@brunel.ac.uk> 

much as i would love to take the credit for defeating a certain
midlands
team, unfortunately Fever capitulated rather weakly against "the best
zone
defence in the country". Although I have since wiped the score-line
from my
memory, i do believe we got our butts kicked.

Trojan

on 11/2/02 1:43 pm, Roger Thomson at roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk wrote:

1/ Clapham 1
2/ TeamShark
3/ Clapham 2
4/ Fluid Druids
5/ Un Poco Loco
6/ Smash & Grab
7/ NightFever
8/ Red

Smash & Grab and NightFever both beat the midland visitors Red, who had
been
seeded 6th and would have  been relegated had this not been the last in
the
series!

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Similar to Alan's post, if any of the open teams could do with an extra player for this weekend at Loughborough indoors then please let me know.

Have played since '98, played for Hustlers and Swamp Donkeys in the last two Tours. Out of shape at present so I wont be taking up to many points on the pitch :)

I'm only down the road so late notice will be fine.

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<P>Hello everyone!!!</P>
<P>thanks to all those teams who took part in our tournament!!&nbsp; I hope you all enjoyed it and managed to get a few jelly beans at the end there...&nbsp; </P>
<P>The grand total raised for the British Heart Foundation was £600!!!!!!!&nbsp; Thanks for all your help!</P>
<P>Results from the weekend are as follows<BR><BR>1.&nbsp; Mr. Men&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cup Winners<BR>2.&nbsp; Ow!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cup Rinners Up<BR>=3. Mythago 1<BR>=3. Purple Haze<BR>5.&nbsp; Sublime<BR>6.&nbsp; Bears<BR>7.&nbsp; Uriel<BR>8.&nbsp; Old School Haze<BR>9.&nbsp; Disc Doctors<BR>10. Slurry Slingers<BR>11. Picnic 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Plate Winners<BR>12. Purple Haze 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Plate Runners Up<BR!
>=13.Mythago 2<BR>=13.Uwe<BR>15. Bad Habits<BR>16. SkuMy<BR>17. Mohawks<BR>18. Picnic 2<BR>19. Mythago 3<BR>20. Discophilia&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wooden Spoon<BR><BR>Best Spirit		&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Discophilia<BR>MVP			Raj (Ow!)<BR>MIP (most injured player)&nbsp;	Dave (SkuMy)<BR>Best Arse		&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tim (Bears) for his face&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Best Layout		Hector (Mr. Men)<BR>Champagne Ultimate	&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mr. Men<BR>Sharking Award		Nicole (Mohawks)<BR></P>
<P>PS we have some lost property here is any of you seem to be missing some clothes...</P>
<P>Take care of yourselves, and each other.&nbsp; </P>
<DIV>Lewis McFadyen </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>of Mythago 
<DIV></DIV>Tournament Director 
<DIV></DIV>and generally nice chap 
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Mob: 078 555 27983 
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The weekend of Mix and Mingle (Hull Co-Ed indoors 2002) has now 
passed, the dust has settled, and the bad 80's clothes have all been 
placed back in the cupboard.

The tournament proved to be a roaring success, with a total of 20 
teams fighting it out to gain the mantle of Mix and Mingle champions.

The two days saw lots of great close matches between the teams with 
some extremely high quality ultimate, but also some extremely well 
spirited and friendly play.

The 1980's themed party took place in a local seedy Hull venue which 
suited the large amount of bad clothing on display. Virtually every 
team turned out in some form of homage to 80's clothing, from the 
glam rock look (Danny from Bradford – who won best outfit prize), to 
lots of plain ugly suits and shirts.

The three pint champions, with a super 22 seconds, were Maria 
(Bradford) and Jill (Hull), who conquered all before them.

The final saw an extremely talented No Frills 1 reproduce the form 
that they had been giving all tournament to beat Hull 1 with some 
fantastic attacking and defensive play. 

The final run down is:

20. UWE
19. Block stack
18. BLT
17. No frills 2 – spoon winners
16. Hulltimate 3
15. Random fling
14. Aurora borealis
13. Mental discs
12. Hulltimate 2
11. Bradford - SOTG
10. York
9.  Flyght club – Plate winners
8.  Burley korfball
7.  UCL
6.  We got guns...
5.  Chunky monkey
4.  Trigger happy
3.  Phat Ed's
2.  Hulltimate 1
1.  No Frills 1  - Fish slice trophy shield winners.

Thanks to everyone that came and made it all the fun that it was.

Mark
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Sorry,

I forgot to remind all entrants that the first games will not be until 12.30pm
on the Saturday.  There will be a Captain's meeting at 12.15pm on Saturday.
(That's the 2nd of March!)

Cheers

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15 teams have now paid up for the Sheffield indoor qualifiers.  Obviously to 
make life a lot easier 1 more team would be great.  There is still 
provisionally room for another 5 teams.  However in order to keep things 
simple I am putting a deadline of this Friday for interested parties to get 
in touch.  Your cheques don't have to be in but I have to know you're 
coming.  No entries will be accepted after this date.

The teams in no particular order yet are.....

1. Phat Eds 1
2. Phat Eds 2
3. OddJOB
4. West Yorkshire Winter League All Stars
5. YBK 1
6. YBK 2
7. Slipdisc
8. Chuft
9. Space Monkeys
10. Trigger Happy
11. Jedi
12. 3 Frogs
13. Mexican Horse Bandits
14. Mute Animal Unit
15. Fingers 6


If players from 3 Frogs and Mute Animal Unit could get in touch and tell me 
who is on their team I would appreciate it as otherwise I will be guessing 
for seeding.

Thanks

Rob Owen

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The mohawks womens team have lost 2 players due to
illness, and hence are currently 4. Therefore if
there's any student female who wants to play for us,
and are eligible to do so, then please please let me
know.

I've spoken to Tim, and basically it's the same as
normal, i.e if sussex is your closest uni that's
entered in the WOMEN'S division, then you can play for
us.

The list of entered teams is below: (I've put down
where they are just incase noone knows)

Mwnci Wench (Aberystwyth (or however you spell it...))
Fish Women (Lancaster)
Flatball Project (St Andrews)
Grantham Women (Lincolnshire incase you didn't know)
Bears Women (Warwick)
Ow! Women (Oxford)
York Women 
Jedi Women (Leeds)
Cardiff Angels 
Skunks Women (Southampton)
Mythago Women (Bristol)
Mohawks Women (Brighton)

So, if you can play for us (I reckon for most of
london we'd be closest) then let me know

cheers

nicole
mohawks women's captain

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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:32:52 
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Got half what I wanted from the venue so I declare this event full with 18 
teams entered.  Just to recap they are:

Night Fever
Yo Mama
Angels
Angels
Strange Blue
Strange Blue
Hammerage
Mohawks
Mohawks
Playthings
UCL
Surrey
Surrey
Lurkers
Bad Habits
Hammerage Co-ed
Bad Habits 2
Angels 3

I will get to work on the schedule - it may turn out that 20 teams can play 
so if there are any late teams out there let me know and I'll put you on a 
provisional list.

Further details, directions etc as soon as I can sort or delegate

                      ***Accommodation***
I have negotiated with a local hotel and they are prepared to offer any team 
that books 8 or more players for both Fri and Sat twin rooms at £25 per 
person per night.  This hotel is in the party zone and two minutes walk from 
the Rec Centre.

If you want floorspace then let me know asap.

Si B/Angels




>From: "Simon Barry" <sibarry@hotmail.com>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, angels-ultimate@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [angels-ultimate] SE Regional Update
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:08:26
>
>Here are the teams entered so far to the SE regional on 22/23 Feb
>
>Night Fever
>Yo Mama
>Angels
>Angels
>Strange Blue
>Strange Blue
>Hammerage
>Mohawks
>Mohawks
>Playthings
>UCL
>Surrey
>Surrey
>Lurkers
>Bad Habits
>Hammerage Co-ed
>
>Awaiting Confirmation from Venue....
>Bad Habits 2
>Angels 3?
>
>There are 16 teams confirmed.  I am trying to confirm some extra hours  
>with
>the venue so that we can accommodate up to 20 teams.  This is looking 
>likely
>to succeed so if there are any more teams out there then you can still
>enter.
>
>I'll post tourny details once I've got this sorted.
>
>Si B/Angels
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All,

The captain's packs went out today. Should be with you tomorrow or Thursday. 
Schedules etc are in that. All other details (directions, what to do on 
arrival, accommodation, seedings, groups, rules and stuff)are on the web site 
at the bottom of the email. 

Please look at the start times as women's and division 2 games are in the 
afternoon on Saturday. 

It seems there are women's teams struggling for players. Skunks hardly have 
any, mohawks are in a similar situation. Can I suggest that if you are a female 
student player, you get yourself to Loughborough on the weekend and pick up for 
anyone. I don't think that the geography need matter that much if teams can't 
get enough players. If there are any other student women's teams that want to 
take Skunks' place, email asap.

My phone number is 07754 531706. Call me.

Cheers, look forward to seeing you on the weekend. 

Luke

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

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Hello,

The tour details and long awaited date of nationals
will be announced on Friday (when I next have email
access). In the meanwhile I need to notify those that
were unsuccessful in their bids.

Thanks everyone,

Si Weeks




=====
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National Director of Competitions
bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk

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From: Wayne Retter <wayne@fluiddruids.com>
Subject: FWD from r.s.d.: Paganello 2002
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Mon, 11 Feb 2002, by leonardo <mailto:rivative@aol.com>;
 Subject: Paganello 2002
>Lets start the hype right now.
>
>Last year, these British folks called Under the Influence won the
>Paganello umbrella and the women's team from the sunny shores of
>England, Bliss, won the Beach tournament for the third year running.
>
>Will they dedicate 2002 to princess Margaret? Or to ale?
>
>Party champions from Kiev, Meltdown, are introducing the Meltdownettes
>women's team, also known as the Fighting Frogs.
>
>From the U.S., a Hee-Haw like team called Collard Greens from Atlanta
>hopes to return to the finals and win. No Tsu Oh wants to win the
>whole enchilada again like they did in 2000. These Texans always show
>well at the party too, that goes without saying.
>
>Mixed teams Thrill Ride from mostly San Francisco, Horned Melons from
>Philadelphia and Huck Finn from the West Coast are in the hunt. Last
>year Thrill Ride won it all behind Dom, Safdie, Cocoa, Epa, Peldi,
>Ozzie and more. A scary team.
>
>Coming soon: an opportunity to fill in a sheet with your picks for
>Paganello games. Think of your office betting pool for March Madness.
>This is it for Ultimate.
>
>Winners receive Paga merchandise. its true. I can hardly believe it
>myself.
>
>www.Paganello.com
>
>More to come
>
>Tony Leonardo
>Ombudsman
>
>
>PS: the rumors about Odd Job are untrue!

----------------------------------------------------------------
Wayne Retter
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Dear All,

****************************************************************************
An important announcement which affects everyone playing in the Open Indoor
Regionals & Nationals, the Open Tour and the Open Nationals
****************************************************************************

We're pleased to announce that UK Ultimate is now ready to accept your
membership applications.

http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp

Because of the delay in getting the registration process ready, those of you
playing in the Indoor Regionals on 23/24 February only have to REGISTER
beforehand (so that we have team rosters.) We have postponed the PAYMENT
DEADLINE.


DEADLINES SUMMARY:-

Thursday 21st February: All Indoor Regionals players to have registered.

Friday 15th March: All payments from Indoor Regionals players to be
received.



WARNING

Team rosters will be on display at all the regional events for scrutiny by
their opponents!

Any team spotted fielding an unregistered player will have their results
voided and will be barred from further UK Ultimate events until all fees are
paid.

Team rosters can be inspected online via the link from their contact details
page.


REGISTRATION PROCESS:-

Go to http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp

Fees are:
£25 - Full Membership
£16 - Student Membership
£free! - Players who have not played in the Open Indoor Regionals and
Nationals or the Open Tour in previous years may claim a free year of
eligibilty. They will not get the other membership benefits and they still
need to register.

Some teams may find it easier to get their contact person to do the
registration on their behalf - this is fine as long as the information given
is accurate. Remember that the address details given will be where players'
newsletters are posted. We would also be happy to receive block team payment
of fees if this makes things easier

You will be required to give the following essential information:-

*Name
*Address (including postcode)
*Date of Birth
*Educational Establishment (students)

Players may optionally also provide a password so that they can return to
update their details.

Students may also give details of their vacation addresses and can update
their record at any time to let us know which address to send newsletters
to.


AND FINALLY.......

Please accept our apologies for the lateness of this announcement. Let us
know if you have any problems with the registration process. We are prepared
to make allowances for players and teams who let us know in advance.

Regards,

Ben Ravilious
President
UK Ultimate




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Oops - sent from wrong email address.

Thats what you get for doing these things at half one in the morning.

Ben



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ultimarket" <info@ultimarket.com>
To: "BRITDISC" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 13 February 2002 01:40
Subject: JOIN UK ULTIMATE!


> Dear All,
>
>
****************************************************************************
> An important announcement which affects everyone playing in the Open
Indoor
> Regionals & Nationals, the Open Tour and the Open Nationals
>
****************************************************************************
>
> We're pleased to announce that UK Ultimate is now ready to accept your
> membership applications.
>
> http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp
>
> Because of the delay in getting the registration process ready, those of
you
> playing in the Indoor Regionals on 23/24 February only have to REGISTER
> beforehand (so that we have team rosters.) We have postponed the PAYMENT
> DEADLINE.
>
>
> DEADLINES SUMMARY:-
>
> Thursday 21st February: All Indoor Regionals players to have registered.
>
> Friday 15th March: All payments from Indoor Regionals players to be
> received.
>
>
>
> WARNING
>
> Team rosters will be on display at all the regional events for scrutiny by
> their opponents!
>
> Any team spotted fielding an unregistered player will have their results
> voided and will be barred from further UK Ultimate events until all fees
are
> paid.
>
> Team rosters can be inspected online via the link from their contact
details
> page.
>
>
> REGISTRATION PROCESS:-
>
> Go to http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp
>
> Fees are:
> £25 - Full Membership
> £16 - Student Membership
> £free! - Players who have not played in the Open Indoor Regionals and
> Nationals or the Open Tour in previous years may claim a free year of
> eligibilty. They will not get the other membership benefits and they still
> need to register.
>
> Some teams may find it easier to get their contact person to do the
> registration on their behalf - this is fine as long as the information
given
> is accurate. Remember that the address details given will be where
players'
> newsletters are posted. We would also be happy to receive block team
payment
> of fees if this makes things easier
>
> You will be required to give the following essential information:-
>
> *Name
> *Address (including postcode)
> *Date of Birth
> *Educational Establishment (students)
>
> Players may optionally also provide a password so that they can return to
> update their details.
>
> Students may also give details of their vacation addresses and can update
> their record at any time to let us know which address to send newsletters
> to.
>
>
> AND FINALLY.......
>
> Please accept our apologies for the lateness of this announcement. Let us
> know if you have any problems with the registration process. We are
prepared
> to make allowances for players and teams who let us know in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ben Ravilious
> President
> UK Ultimate
>
>
>
>
>

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To: "'siweeks@bigfoot.com'" <siweeks@bigfoot.com>
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Si / Anyone who can remember,

Did the Tour 2 issue get resolved? If not, why not make it the 25th of May?
The BUF events diary shows there is nothing on that weekend.

Just a thought.

Maria

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Si Weeks [SMTP:bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent:	12 February 2002 19:35
> To:	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject:	Tour and Nationals
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The tour details and long awaited date of nationals
> will be announced on Friday (when I next have email
> access). In the meanwhile I need to notify those that
> were unsuccessful in their bids.
> 
> Thanks everyone,
> 
> Si Weeks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> =====
> UK Ultimate Association 
> National Director of Competitions
> bua_doc@yahoo.co.uk
> 
> __________________________________________________
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Whip-ma-whop-ma (otherwise excitingly known as 'york women')
unfortunately is suffering the same fate as several other student
women's teams and as has lost half its team in about 24hours and is down
to 4 players...

so if any student women would like to pick up for us this weekend in
luftbra please get in touch - i think eligibility rules apply so ideally
you need to be in the north-east of england (but i don't know how strict
they will be applied as jedi are also entered this weekend and are from
the same area as us!)

cheers mel

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hi there,
A year or two ago, someone took a load of old Ulti clips and put them
together into a funky promotional MPG. I seem to remember it was well-edited
and did a good job of demonstrating the good bits of the sport. It used
loads of clips from the Toronto Worlds finals video. Was it Jester who made
the video?

Anyway, I need a copy to show to some people at work. DOes anyone know where
I can download a copy (http or ftp), or could someone just send me the clip?

Thanks
Andy

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Hi Andy

Yeah, I did make a video a view years ago. Barry had it on a site of his in 
the past, could have been Whatisultimate but I can't see it there now 
(Barry?). I don't know of it being online anywhere at present and I don't 
have the means to upload it. Sorry, hope someone else can help.

Bes*
Jes*




>From: Andy Cotgreave <Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk>
>To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: Promotional MPGs
>Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:18:26 -0000
>
>hi there,
>A year or two ago, someone took a load of old Ulti clips and put them
>together into a funky promotional MPG. I seem to remember it was 
>well-edited
>and did a good job of demonstrating the good bits of the sport. It used
>loads of clips from the Toronto Worlds finals video. Was it Jester who made
>the video?
>
>Anyway, I need a copy to show to some people at work. DOes anyone know 
>where
>I can download a copy (http or ftp), or could someone just send me the 
>clip?
>
>Thanks
>Andy




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Hi BD
Just two short questions'
1 Does anyone know where I can get some padded shorts from? Gaia used to
do them and have stopped any other ideas?
2 I saw someone with a pda using a dedicated app to analyse games. Can
anyone point me in the direction of a download site for this please?

Thanks

Pimpy
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No mountain to deep no valley to high

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Just shove some bubble wrap down your shorts - It worked for Mental Ben!



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Further to Ben's notice this morning, we need to point out that juniors do
not need to become members of UK Ultimate. The reasons for this were based
around the problems of storing sensitive information on minors, and the cost
to juniors. We need to be encouraging juniors and imposing such a cost on
them may lose us potential players, so juniors under 18 are exempt.

For UK Ultimate events like regional indoors, we are still going to have to
look at the roster problems. We really would not expect a TD to ask to see a
birth certificate or threaten to turn a junior away, but at the same time,
we would obviously be very disappointed if someone abused the spirit of the
game by either claming to be under 18 when they are not, or if a junior
tried to change teams between qualifiers and the finals.

Kevin Lowe
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|    - Jules Gibb

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>2 I saw someone with a pda using a dedicated app to analyse games. Can
>anyone point me in the direction of a download site for this please?

Ultilinks at http://www.ultilinks.com has a link/download option

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Are there any players out there still dying to play in the open bit of
Lufbra this weekend?
If so then you are lucky. Discdoctors 2 have space for some players.

Anyone interested email christopher.penfold@ic.ac.uk

Cheers

Chris
dD2

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www.ukultimate.com is down at the moment.

I have checked and it seems to be a problem with the ISP so hopefully they will notice that their home page is also down and fix it soon!

Try again in a bit.

Sorry

Ben

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>2 I saw someone with a pda using a dedicated app to analyse games. Can
>anyone point me in the direction of a download site for this please?

The programme is Ultistats. You can get it from 
http://www.moshpit.org/pilot/

Cheers
Bes*
Jes*

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www.ukultimate.com is working again.


Check this out:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/newsid_1819000/1819272.stm

I reckon they'll *have* to ask us for recruiting tips sooner or later.

Ben
UK Ultimate (153 members and counting!!!)

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
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>
>www.ukultimate.com is down at the moment.
>
>I have checked and it seems to be a problem with the ISP so hopefully they will notice that their home page is also down and fix it soon!
>
>Try again in a bit.
>
>Sorry
>
>Ben
>
>

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Hi

Please could Si Barry 
and the chap who rang from Zebadee get in touch asap

07866 336643
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Sam 
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Hi

Please could Si Barry 
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07866 336643
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Sam 
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Hi

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Sam 
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Hello,

Sorry about the late notice but changes have been made to the schedule and 
format of the Nationals and Women's Nationals. Please look at the updated 
website as you may have a different start time (although, they haven't changed 
that much). As captain's packs have gone out already we will be giving out 
supplements to the affected teams on arrival. 

Make sure that you all bring your captain's packs as we are not going to have 
spairs for everyone who forgets. 

A few have you have sent me emails asking me to confirm your accommodation. 
Everyone who has done this, has accommodation. 

Thanks for your patience,

Luke  

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

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In the last two weeks there have been some very exciting developments 
regarding disc sport on TV.

A programme called DISC TV is scheduled to start broadcasting in March 2002.

The first series is dedicated to disc golf and future series are likely to 
cover more disc sports.

More information at www.OBmegazine.com

*The next disc golf event in the UK is March 2/3 in Aylesbury (includes 
Goaltimate and DDC).
more info www.discgolf.co.uk/doubles

Richard
tel: 020 8575 1564
mobile: 07989 406256


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What channel, what time?





Richard Sampson <richard@discology.co.uk> on 14/02/2002 15:17:08

To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@yahoogroups.com
cc:    (bcc: Simon Statham/Transportation/BCC)


Subject:  DISC TV



In the last two weeks there have been some very exciting developments
regarding disc sport on TV.

A programme called DISC TV is scheduled to start broadcasting in March 2002.

The first series is dedicated to disc golf and future series are likely to
cover more disc sports.

More information at www.OBmegazine.com

*The next disc golf event in the UK is March 2/3 in Aylesbury (includes
Goaltimate and DDC).
more info www.discgolf.co.uk/doubles

Richard
tel: 020 8575 1564
mobile: 07989 406256








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The Ultimarket site is now up and running:-

www.ultimarket.com

If any UK teams/players have kit to sell then feel free to register. You can list as much stuff as you like (no fee.)

If anyone with a website is kind enough to add a link to Ultimarket I would be very grateful!

Thanks

Ben

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if you lost a light brown carhartt t-shirt at WL4 I have it.
 
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Due to a sequence of unfortunate events, Jedi will be gratefully 
accepting pick-ups for Division 3 of the Loughborough indoors this 
weekend.

Matt: have you been picked up by anyone yet?

Please contact me if you're interested: 0795 600 2710.

Cheers,

Rich, Jedi
rich@leedsjedi.co.uk
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Sun, 20 Jan 2002, by Wayne Retter <mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>;
 Subject: Newport Indoors 2002 - Results
>PS: Lost Property - is all in the boot of my car, probably until mid-
>week, when I'll try to work out exactly what it consists of. If you know
>you've lot something, let me know.

Here's what no-one has yet claimed - maybe you've not missed it yet?

~ Strange Blue disc (yellow/red hotstamp) with holographic sticker on
underside

~ Blue 'Agilent Technologies' waterbottle - labelled Sam from FlyhtClub

~ Green/White Nike Air Cross Trainers

~ Navy Blue 'George Sport' track trousers, size LARGE

~ Tan 'Geneva Wizards' hoodie

~ Navy Blue 'Puma' sweater, size L


Let me know if it's yours, and how you'd like it returned.

Wayne
Fluid Druids



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The following teams have yet to register a single player for next weeks
regional indoors:-

3 Frogs
Mute Animal Unit
Discophilia (who are you??! - you're not on the main list of teams)
Lurkers
Bad Habits
Uriel
Airforce
SNOAP

You have until Thursday evening to get all your players on the roster or you
won't be going to the tournament:-

http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp

Please save us the bother of trying to phone you all and sort it out.

Thanks

Ben
UK Ultimate

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1. The Open Tour

OK here are the details for the Tour this season. None
of the provisional dates have changed, but these are
the chosen venues:

13/14 April - Tour I – Bristol
18/19 May - Tour II – Exeter
22/23 June - Tour III – Banbury
20/21 July - Tour IV – Leeds

2. The Co-ed Tour

The Co-ed Tour is also taking shape with two of the
three events confirmed. Tour I is yet to be finalised.
If anyone is still interested in bidding for this
event, it is the 27th/28th of April. The current
format is:

27/28 April – Co-ed Tour I – Venue TBA
08/09 June – Co-ed Tour II – Boston Spa, nr Leeds
13/14 July – Co-ed Tour III - Titchfield, nr
Southampton

3. Nationals

Both Open and Co-ed Nationals have been pulled forward
by popular demand and will be played on:

24/25 August – Co-ed Nationals - Nottingham
31 Aug/01 Sept – Open Nationals– Swindon

4. Open Indoors

Further information on Open Indoors will be published
very soon by Rob Owen outlining qualifying slots at
each region. Open Indoor Finals are now confirmed as
the 16/17 March in Leeds. Regrettably there were no
bids for Co-ed Indoor Qualifiers or Co-ed Indoor
Finals, so these competitions will not go ahead.

I have updated this information and all other planned
ultimate events for this season on the UK Ultimate
Diary, which can be found at:
http://www.ukultimate.com/events.asp

Finally I’d like to thank those people who did bid for
an event, as they have ensured that we will have
another excellent season of UK Ultimate ahead of us.

Cheers,

Si Weeks


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There are now a total of 15 teams entered in the
Weston-Super-Mare Indoors Qualifiers. As Rob said
regarding the Sheffield tournament 16 is a much better
number, so if anyone fancies putting a team together
let me know. Currently the seeding will be as follows.
Any objections? Let me know by end of play Tuesday.

1. BAF
2. Sharks
3. SNOAP
4. Mr Men
5. Discult
6. Mythago
7. No Frills
8. Sublime
9. Uriel
10. Airforce
11. Mwnci See
12. UWE
13. Bath
14. BAF Too
15. Uriel II

For those of you who can't remember the details, they
are copied in below. Directions and the schedule will
follow later in the week.

Cheers,

Si Weeks

> The event will be held on the weekend of the
> 23rd/24th
> of February at the Hutton Moor Leisure Centre in
> Weston-Super-Mare. This is located just three miles
> from junction 21 of the M5. The venue has a large
> sized hall (36m by 32m), so can be divided into two
> sizeable pitches. The leisure centre also has a
> swimming pool, squash courts, tennis, etc.
> 
> On the Saturday night the party will include a DJ
> and
> all being well a late licence until midnight. The
> party will be on the same site as the tournament and
> for those who really want to minimise their
> non-ultimate exercise to 30 seconds walking, there
> is
> also accommodation on site. This is a Travel Inn,
> which costs £20.95 per person based on two people
> sharing.
> 
> There is a plethora of alternative accommodation
> available in Weston-Super-Mare town centre, which is
> just 1.5 miles away. The following B&B prices are
> based on August rates, so you should be able to get
> some good discount. Plenty more B&Bs are available
> on
> request.
> 
> Blakeney, 01934 624772, £14 per night B&B
> Vaynor, 01934 632332, £14 per night B&B
> Fourways, 01934 623827, £15 per night B&B
> Holly Lodge, 01934 415163, £15 per night B&B
> Holmleigh, 01934 629070, £15 per night B&B
> Arilas, 01934 628283, £16 per night B&B
> Flora Glen, 01934 620592, £16 per night B&B
> Four Seasons, 01934 631124, £16 per night B&B
> Goodrington, 01934 623229, £16 per night B&B
> Hotel Soraya, 01934 629043, £16 per night B&B
> Kenilworth, 01934 629398, £16 per night B&B
> 
> Entries will be accepted on a first-come,
> first-served
> basis. The cost per team is £80. Please send cheques
> to Si Weeks, 23 Shepards Close, Fareham, PO14 3AJ.
> If
> you have any queries phoning (07815 126573) is much
> more reliable than email. I can always call you back.

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Dear Britdisc,

Can anyone give me any advice on the cheapest way to get from London to
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I realise that you wish to have a full register of players, but £25 per 
person (for what is likely to be the only tournament that some people 
will play this year) seems a little excessive. If you look at the entry 
cost say £100 + 7 players @$25 a time, that will make £40 EACH for one 
tournament. Surely there should be a team fee if you do not expect to 
play for the full year.

I would suggest £50 a tournament indoors and £100 outdoors for a team. 
I am probably going to register anyway, but I know that a number of 
players are unlikly to play in any other tournaments at all this year. 
By charging the above it would make the total cost £22, which I still 
think is a lot for a single tournament.

Cliff

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The following teams have yet to register a single player for next weeks
regional indoors:-

3 Frogs
Mute Animal Unit
Discophilia (who are you??! - you're not on the main list of teams)
Lurkers
Bad Habits
Uriel
Airforce
SNOAP

You have until Thursday evening to get all your players on the roster 
or you
won't be going to the tournament:-

http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp

Please save us the bother of trying to phone you all and sort it out.

Thanks

Ben
UK Ultimate


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Cliff,

The £25 per player fee is for annual membership of UK Ultimate. This was voted on and agreed by everyone last year. Everyone I have spoken to is really happy that they are going to get a regular newsletter and other benefits for the first time. Even if you don't play in any of the official events its still an attractive proposition.

If you and your players don't want to pay it then thats your choice but don't turn up at the regionals expecting to play when all the other players have paid up in full.

Perhaps you should be playing in a less serious tournament if this kind of thing isn't up your street? We are very keen to encourage the fun events which is why only the national indoor and outdoor championships require you to be a member.

We await your decision.

Ben
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 09:32:37 +0000

>I realise that you wish to have a full register of players, but £25 per 
>person (for what is likely to be the only tournament that some people 
>will play this year) seems a little excessive. If you look at the entry 
>cost say £100 + 7 players @$25 a time, that will make £40 EACH for one 
>tournament. Surely there should be a team fee if you do not expect to 
>play for the full year.
>
>I would suggest £50 a tournament indoors and £100 outdoors for a team. 
>I am probably going to register anyway, but I know that a number of 
>players are unlikly to play in any other tournaments at all this year. 
>By charging the above it would make the total cost £22, which I still 
>think is a lot for a single tournament.
>
>Cliff
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: info@ukultimate.com [mailto:info@ukultimate.com]
>Sent: 17 February 2002 20:40
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Your team has not registered!
>
>
>The following teams have yet to register a single player for next weeks
>regional indoors:-
>
>3 Frogs
>Mute Animal Unit
>Discophilia (who are you??! - you're not on the main list of teams)
>Lurkers
>Bad Habits
>Uriel
>Airforce
>SNOAP
>
>You have until Thursday evening to get all your players on the roster 
>or you
>won't be going to the tournament:-
>
>http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp
>
>Please save us the bother of trying to phone you all and sort it out.
>
>Thanks
>
>Ben
>UK Ultimate
>
>
>

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Sent: 18 February 2002 09:33
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Subject: RE: Your team has not registered!


I realise that you wish to have a full register of players, but £25 per 
person (for what is likely to be the only tournament that some people 
will play this year) seems a little excessive. If you look at the entry 
cost say £100 + 7 players @$25 a time, that will make £40 EACH for one 
tournament. Surely there should be a team fee if you do not expect to 
play for the full year.

I would suggest £50 a tournament indoors and £100 outdoors for a team. 
I am probably going to register anyway, but I know that a number of 
players are unlikly to play in any other tournaments at all this year. 
By charging the above it would make the total cost £22, which I still 
think is a lot for a single tournament.

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: info@ukultimate.com [mailto:info@ukultimate.com]
Sent: 17 February 2002 20:40
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Your team has not registered!


The following teams have yet to register a single player for next weeks
regional indoors:-

3 Frogs
Mute Animal Unit
Discophilia (who are you??! - you're not on the main list of teams)
Lurkers
Bad Habits
Uriel
Airforce
SNOAP

You have until Thursday evening to get all your players on the roster 
or you
won't be going to the tournament:-

http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp

Please save us the bother of trying to phone you all and sort it out.

Thanks

Ben
UK Ultimate



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Hi,

I'm currently in Reading and in need of an Ultimate practice.
Does anyone know of one in Reading or at least nearby??

Karl,
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I'm trying to organise an outdoors mini tourney in
Leicester on April 19th, with the same kind of
structure as a winter league day. Can a contact person
from Bears, Flyght Club, Jesters, Fly TNT, Purple
Haze, Random Fling, Thundercats and Red(? - standard
of ultimate would probably only be worth it if your
second team wanted some games) contact me to let me
know if you're interested - and how many teams you'd
have if you are. There's no tourney scheduled at the
moment for that weekend. If I've missed any clubs out
that fancy it can you contact me too as I need to book
pitches soonish. It should be a good warm up before
student nationals.

Cheers

Nicole
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http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tourny_home.cgi?dir=indoornationals

You can find details re Indoor nationals on the above site.  The number of 
qualifying spots for each region has not yet been allocated so DON'T ask me. 
  I will ignore all mails of this sort.

Si and Rob will announce the no. of slots as soon as they can - so be 
patient.

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Hello All,

Here are the results from the weekend. Well played to all the Champions. Also a 
list of all the lost property. Sorry about all the grumblings. All heard and 
heeded. 

Cheers,

Luke

The Student Nationals 2002

1. Far Flung
2. Mythago
3. Purple Haze
4. Bears
5. Ow!
6. Jedi
7. No Frills
8. Disc Doctors
9. Strange BLue
10. Sublime
11. Uriel
12. Fish
13. Positive Mojo
14. Flatball Project
15. Phat 'eds
16. Fly TNT

Division 2 2002

1. Shooting Stars
2. Northern Lights
3. Brunel
4. Ro-Sham-Bo
5. YBK
6. Jesters
7. BLT
8. Purple Kennies
9. Bears 2
10. Ow!2
11. Mythago 2
12. Disciples
13. Kings
14. Far Flung 2
15. Sublime 2
16. UWE

Women's Student Nationals 2002

1. Flatball Project
2. Bears
3. Mohawks
4. Jedi
5. Ow!
6. York
7. Mythago
8. Cardiff Angels
9. Fish
10. Mwnci Wench
11. Skunks
12. Flying Low Lady Like

Old Skool Division 2002

1. Hultimate
2. Old Haze 1
3. Aurora Borealis
4. Mwnci See
5. Old Sublime
6. Venom
7. York 2
8. Disc Doctors 2
9. Skumy
10. Mohawks
11. Aye Aye
12. Skunks
13. Gratham
14. Old Haze 2
15. Jedi 2
16. Fish 2
17. Flaming Monkeys
18. Jesters 2
19. Purple Ronnies
20. No show.

Ryan from fish(?): mobile phone! 
Misc discs - nothing special
A sexy blacks 250 sleeping bag in a blue and black case
ISIC Card of Matt Colgan
Black netball style skirt
Red baseball cap with "FB" on the front
Adidas tracksuit bottoms
Club Monaco grey (ish) combat style trousers
A red "wise proven true" santa cruz t shirt
White Stuff Shirt (White colour)
Black Umbro t shirt
Nx hoodied shirt (teal colour?)
Tog 24 XL Anorak
Blue Adidas tracksuit bottoms
Fleece top, dark blue, with white collar
Reebok bottoms grey in colour
Fleece rip curl grey top
1 lovely salmon pink towel
1 pair of vans size 10 trainers
kings college London Ultimate Frisbee top
Red CK shirt
Black scarf
Incredibly small adidas blue top
2 legs of a "goose turd green" zip on trouser/shorts combo. 
Blue nike hooded jacket
Black nike shorts
Black ben Sherman jumper
Black EUCC "2001 prague" black long-sleeved t shirt
Necklace on elastic, black beads with yellow separates
Black brandless tracksuit bottoms (shell suit material though)
Incredibly ragged blue tracksuit bottoms
Very sweaty t-shirt, blue, grey, dark grey areas on the shirt
Red Coca Cola t-shirt - from Thailand
Large black westwood Canada hooded top
one used reading top
black pair of "old school" trousers 

What isn't claimed by 1 March will be donated to charity.

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

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>I'm currently in Reading and in need of an Ultimate practice.
>Does anyone know of one in Reading or at least nearby??

Not at this time of year.
There were sessions in Cintra Park last summer.

D'you have time on your hands to find some available floodlit grass for
weekday evening sessions? (Palmers Park Running Track infield is closed
pending investigation/repairs)

Wayne

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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=399014109-19022002>On behalf of Hannah Easter.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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All,

Bids are now being taken for the hosting of the Student Outdoors 2002.  The
date set for this event is the weekend of 4th/5th May -- this will not be
changed.  If anyone is interested in hosting the event, please contact me ASAP
at tim@mwncisee.co.uk with details of your bid.

In general, bids should cover in details such as:

 - facilities for 32 teams
 - (at least) 8 pitches, preferably 10 (or more)
 - _hot_ showers and changing facilities for everyone
 - camping facilities (or other accommodation)
 - St. John's (or other medical aid) on site Sat and Sun
   during playing time
 - party on Sat night, preferably on site or very near by
 - local amenities (supermarket etc) available within easy
   walking distance
 - general location and accessibility
 - bribes ;o)
 - anything else I've forgotten

You have until the end of next week (Friday 1st March) to get your bids in.
All bids will then be put to the student committee and a decision will be made
very soon after.

Thanks,

Tim.

--
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UK Ultimate Student Coordinator 2000-02
Captain - Mwnci See
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.


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Hey,
Just wondering if anyone picked up my camera by mistake at 
Loughborough last weekend.  It didn't manage to get back to Leeds 
with me and doesn't seem to be on the lost property list, but I 
really want to find it as it wasn't cheap and I'm a poor student.  It's 
a silver Samsung Fino 70, 35mm (not APS) camera, with a black 
case that says Samsung.  Unfortunately a lot of people seem to 
have the same camera so it might be possible that someone 
picked up two by mistake.  If anyone have seen it please could 
they let me know.  I will pay for postage to return it or I will be at 
Notts qualifiers this weekend.

Thanks,

Ali
Jedi/ Disco Inferno/ Discophilia

p.s.  Haribo will be supplied as a reward!

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Is there a version of ultistats available for Psion type organisers?=20

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Never seen one, and if it exists Google doesn't know about it. Can you run 
Palm OS on you Psion at all?

Jes*


>From: "stuart little" <spl103@york.ac.uk>
>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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>Is there a version of ultistats available for Psion type organisers?
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>cheers
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From: Jamie <willowsfuturehusband@yahoo.com>
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Do this test and let me know if your results are as
bizarre as mine were. 
 
 
 Hi, 
 
B.W.G International Crime Syndicate Personality Test 

The B.W.G scientific experts have analysed this and
have ratified its findings. 

PERSONALITY TEST. 

Very intuitive. Just 4 questions and the answers will
give you an in-depth look into you criminal persona.

 
Do not cheat by looking up the answers. The mind is
like cement shoes, put them on too soon and you’ll
never get your intended recuperate in the river.
 

Follow the instructions very closely. Do not cheat. We
will know if you do

MAKE A WISH BEFORE BEGINNING THE TEST!! 
(It sounds girly but just do it!)



A Warning! Answer the questions as you go along. 


There are only four questions and if you see them 
all before finishing, you will not have honest
results. 



Treat it like your lady. Go down slowly and do each
exercise as you come to it. 

Don't look ahead. Get pencil and paper to write your
answers as you go along. You will need it at the end.
This is an essential questionnaire that will reveal
you’re which will reveal criminal persona. 



Put the following 5 animals in the order of your
preference. 

a. Cow 


a. Tiger 



a. Sheep 


a. Horse 



a. Pig 







Write one word that describes each one of the
following: 

Dog 

Cat 

Rat 

Coffee 

Sea 



Think of someone (who also knows you and would even
take a bullet for you if need be). Then relate them to
the following colours (do not repeat your answer
twice. Name just one person for each colour.) 

Yellow 


Orange 


Red 


White 


Green 



The final part of the B.W.G International Crime
Syndicate Personality Test, write down your favourite
number and your favourite day of the week. Plus how
much money you will earn in the next fiscal quarter.

Finished? Please be sure that your answers are what
you REALLY WANT. Don’t try and be cocky! We can find
you if needed!























Look at the interpretations below: (but first before
continuing, repeat your wish.) Girly but essential 
 

This will define your priorities in your life. 

Cow Signifies CAREER 


Tiger Signifies PRIDE 


Sheep Signifies LOVE 

Horse Signifies FAMILY 

Pig Signifies MONEY 


 Your description of dog implies YOUR OWN PERSONALITY.


Your description of cat implies the personality of
your partner. 

Your description of rat implies the personality of
your enemies. 

Your description of coffee is how you interpret
getting a job done. 

Your description of the Sea implies your own crime
philosophy. 


Yellow: Someone you will never forget 

Orange: Someone you consider would take a bullet for
you and you would in return

Red: Someone that you really love and cherish other
than you mom.

White: Your perfect crime partner, with who you could
form a great criminal empire. 

Green: Someone that you will remember for the rest of
your life, and are for ever in the debt of. 


You are now required to send this to as many persons
as your favourite number and your wish will come true
on the 
day that you put. 

Alternatively if you wish to contact the B.W.G
International Crime Syndicate personally to request
membership to the B.W.G International Crime Syndicate
then by all means send a polite e-mail to
dhbbournemouth@aol.com and your request will be dealt
with accordingly.

Conditions of completing this form are as follows

SEND THE B.W.G INTERNATIONAL CRIME SYNDICATE 
PERSONALITY TEST AND YOU LIFE WILL IMPROVE THUS: 

0-4 persons: Your life will improve slightly, you
shouldn’t be meeting the fishes for the moment 

5-9 persons: Your life will improve to your liking,
and you should not meet the fishes this year.  

9-14 persons: You will have at least 5 surprises in
the next three weeks. Speak of B.W.G in the open and
your surprises will not be pleaseant. 

15 or more persons: Your life will improve drastically
and all that you have always dreamed will come true.
Basically change you name to Don (Insert name here)
and get in contact with us.





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Thought you might be interested to read an article by Ultimate Life 
magazine's Dave Brown.

It's published on a leading U.S. disc golf website Disclife.com

http://www.disclife.com/fe01_ultimate.shtml

Richard

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Hello.
 
SlipDisc require a pick-up or two for either Sheffield or Nottingham
regionals. Anyone interested? Give me a call or drop me a mail. 
 
This may have been talked about before, but if we take on a pick-up for
regionals, how does it affect our team roster?
The player must have registered, so do they have to put the team they are
picking up for in their team details?
 
Cheers.
 
Mal.
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From: "Sarah Gibbons" <sargibbons@hotmail.com>
To: ma81rs@eim.surrey.ac.uk, andrew.vaughan@royalsoc.ac.uk,
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Subject: Directions to SE Regionals this weekend
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Hi all
Here are the details and directions to the SE Regionals tournament this 
weekend.

Captain's meeting: 8:30am
First game: 9:00am

Location:
Brixton Recreation Centre
Station Road
Brixton
London
SW9 8QQ

020 7926 9779

Cut and paste the following into your browser for a map.

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=531250&y=175750&zoom=1&isp=187&ism=500&arrow=y?61,178

How to get there
By tube
Brixton is at the southern end of the Victoria line (the bright blue one). 
The rec centre is 2mins walk from the tube station. When you leave the 
station, turn right. Walk approx. 100 yds. Immediately after you've gone 
under the railway bridge, turn right onto Station road. The really ugly 
brick building 50yds in front of you is Brixton Rec. Centre.

By rail
Brixton has a suburban rail station directly opposite the rec centre, with 
connections north to London Victoria and south to Bromley

By Bus
Brixton is served by nos. 2, 3, 59, 159, 118, 355, 35, 45, 345, P4, P5

By car
>From the North
Cross the river at Vauxhall bridge. Follow signs for the A203 (signed to 
Stockwell and Brixton) Stay on the A203 until you reach the roundabout by 
Stockwell tube station (traffic willing, it will take about 5-10 mins). Turn 
left onto Stockwell road(signed to Brixton). Follow this road until it hits 
Brixton High street. Turn right onto Brixton High Street then take the third 
left on to Station Road. There is a car park behind the rec. centre.

>From the South Circular (A205)
Follow signs for the A23, which becomes Brixton High street. Go under the 
railway bridge and immediately turn right on to station road.

>From the A3
When you reach Clapham Common, turn left onto the B303, following signs to 
Brixton. Turn right onto Clapham Park Road (A2217). This road becomes Acre 
Lane, and leads to Brixton High Street. Turn left onto the high street, and 
after you've gon under the railway bridge take an immediate right onto 
Station Road.

Any problems, please feel free to contact me on 020 7733 8155.

See you this weekend
Sarah





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FROM NORTH
CLIFTON CAMPUS  Sports Hall, A453, SW Nottingham.
M1 (JCT 25) = A52 folow signs for Nottingham.  follow signs on the to the
ringroad then SOUTH/RIGHT (also A52) towards Melton Mowbray or M1(South).
In fact follow all signs for M1(South).
The A453 is just after an overpass, and you have to stay in the middle lane
(under the road) back towards the motorway.  Clifton Campus is 1000metres
from here on your left.  take the 3rd entrance (one is exit only)  sports
hall is on your left ...  

FROM SOUTH AND WEST
CLIFTON CAMPUS  Sports Hall, A453, SW Nottingham. 
M1 (JCT 24) and that Nottingham Road is A453. 5 miles in at roundabout
marked Clifton & Ruddington continue STRAIGHT 200metres - Gate on the left!

By train 
>From Nottingham Central
Buses #1 & 1x will take you on Campus and stop almost next to the sports
hall.
Bus #3 will take you past the gates of the Campus.
Ask driver for details.... 15 minute bus ride

First Games at 9.30 Saturday
First Games 10 Sunday
Last Games Sunday 4.30-5pm

games starting before 10am Saturday
Bears, Purple Haze 1, FlyTNT 1, Whiplash
Block Stack, Slippy Disc, Random Fling, TNT 2

Emergency number - Sam - 07866 336643

Sam

914 6254
reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk


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From: Samuel Rey <reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk>
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Subject: Womens Nationals
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:06:27 -0000
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All teams interested in playing at the Womens OPEN Nationals should contact
me asap, there are now 18 teams interested and capacity is 24.

£75 payable to Samuel Rey
62a Nottingham Road
Basford
Nottingham
NG7 7AH

Confirmation Deadline 10 March 2002

half teams and pickups should contact me too!
thank you

Sam

914 6254
reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk

07866 336643
samanir@breathe.com


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Hi Everyone

Sorry for the delay.  I'm afraid I am away on a course at the moment and 
getting access to the internet is a right pain.

OK. Qualifying slots.

It's always very difficult to get this right and whatever you do there are 
always going to be complaints about favouring one region over another Blah 
Blah Blah Blah.

The final decision I came to was to basically split it up as equally as 
possible.

Thus 5 slots have been allocated to the North, South East, South West and 
the Midlands with 4 slots for Scotland.

Now I know this is far from ideal and there will be good teams that miss out 
in some regions whilst weaker ones qualify elsewhere. BUT at the end of the 
day the aim of allocating slots is to ensure that all teams with a chance of 
doing well at Nationals get a chance and if you can't get in the top 4 in 
your region you ain't going to win overall.
No one region is blatantly stronger than the rest so I think this is the 
fairest way.

Should a qualifying team not be able to make it to natinals then the next 
placed team in that region will take their place as has happened over the 
previous years.

Thank you to all the tournament directors who have madethis happen and good 
luck to all the entered teams.

If there are any MAJOR issues over the next few days I can be contacted at 
the Latimer Mews Conference centre. 01494 764466.  I can pick a message up 
at reception and try and get back to you.  Unfortunately their is no network 
cobverage so I can't use my mobile.

Thanks

Rob


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Thanks to Possum for sending me this.  It's much appreciated


http://www.fla5h.co.uk/directions.htm


I am on a course all this week and have no network coverage on my mobile.  
If it is URGENT I can be contacted on 01494 764466.

There are 5 qualifying slots
The format is two pools of 8 no crossover.

I hope to have accomadation for all the teams that asked.  If you do know 
somewhere in Sheffield/Leeds you can stay that would help me a lot.

First Games on the Saturday are at 9.15.  The teams playing in the first two 
sets of matches  will be Three Frogs, Slipdisc, YBK, Phat Eds 2, Phat Eds 1, 
Trigger Happy, YBK 2 Pick Up.

If you would like to be the pick up team then call me at the above number.  
The tournament is scheduled for 16 so you can be accomodated.

I'll see you all on Saturday morning.

Thanks

Rob Owen




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All,

If there are any students out there who are registering with 
UKUltimate and want to play regional qualifiers but don't have a 
team, Jedi are looking to pick up. 

The more tournaments you play, the more you get your money's 
worth!

Please contact Rich on 07956 002 710 if you are interested.

Thanks,

Anna

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Dear All,

If you are competing in the indoor open regionals this weekend you have
until midnight on Thursday (21st Feb) to get your players registered via the
UK Ultimate website.

Here is the current live roster list:-

http://www.ukultimate.com/indoor2002.asp

MAKE SURE YOU AND YOUR TEAM MATES ARE ON IT!

MAKE SURE THE TEAM YOU ARE LISTED AGAINST IS THE TEAM YOU ARE PLAYING FOR
THIS WEEKEND!

If you have registered but are not on this list it is because you did not
specify your open indoor team. Login and update your roster details to
rectify this.

Under 18 year olds are NOT required to register - they can walk in and play
but they are still bound to that team should it qualify for the open indoor
finals. Any troubIe and we will request to see birth certificates!

The final version of the roster will be on public display at all the
regional tournaments.

Any team caught on the day with unregistered or ineligible players will not
be able to progress into the top eight of their regional tournament. In
addition, the whole team will be barred from further UK Ultimate
competitions (including student events) until the offending players have
registered and paid any outstanding fees.

If you have any problems or queries PLEASE let us know. We are prepared to
make reasonable concessions to teams and players who let us know in advance.

Thanks

Ben Ravilious
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From: Samuel Rey <reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk>
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FROM NORTH
CLIFTON CAMPUS  Sports Hall, A453, SW Nottingham.
M1 (JCT 25) = A52 folow signs for Nottingham.  follow signs on the to the
ringroad then SOUTH/RIGHT (also A52) towards Melton Mowbray or M1(South).
In fact follow all signs for M1(South).
The A453 is just after an overpass, and you have to stay in the middle lane
(under the road) back towards the motorway.  Clifton Campus is 1000metres
from here on your left.  take the 3rd entrance (one is exit only)  sports
hall is on your left ...  

FROM SOUTH AND WEST
CLIFTON CAMPUS  Sports Hall, A453, SW Nottingham. 
M1 (JCT 24) and that Nottingham Road is A453. 5 miles in at roundabout
marked Clifton & Ruddington continue STRAIGHT 200metres - Gate on the left!

By train 
>From Nottingham Central
Buses #1 & 1x will take you on Campus and stop almost next to the sports
hall.
Bus #3 will take you past the gates of the Campus.
Ask driver for details.... 15 minute bus ride

First Games at 9.30 Saturday
First Games 10 Sunday
Last Games Sunday 4.30-5pm

games starting before 10am Saturday
Bears, Purple Haze 1, FlyTNT 1, Whiplash
Block Stack, Slippy Disc, Random Fling, TNT 2

Emergency number - Sam - 07866 336643

Sam

914 6254
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Dear ultimateplayers, <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

On May 4th and 5th we'll organise our 10th international ultimate
tournament "Tom's Tourney" in Brugge.

If you've already been to Brugge you know you'll have a great time. If
you haven't played here, just ask around ...

On our website  <http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz>
www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz you'll find all info, including an on-line
registration form. If you would like to come, fill it out before March
17th. We've changed our location and we'll be able to host 32 teams this
year ! Just don't wait too long to register : first come first serve ...

When we receive your registration form and money we'll send you a
confirmation. A mail with all tourney details will follow in the second
week of April.

Check out our web-site to see which teams are registered and to find out
all extra info. You'll also find pictures and video from the last couple
of years. 

Top-4 from the last 5 years :


 2001

24 teams



Red Lights (NL)
Bon Discmanche (F)
Violently happy (GB)
Iznogood (F)



1997

24 teams



Tartarus (USA)
Violently Happy (GB)
Crunch (NL)
XLR8RS (B)



1998

24 teams



Violently Happy (GB)
Invalids (F)
Fluid Druids (GB)
XLR8RS (B)



1999

24 teams



Red Lights (NL)Ultimatum (F)
Belgian National Team
Sun (F)



2000

23 teams



Dutch National Team+ Iznogood (F)
Circus on the run (NL) 
XLR8RS (B)



See you soon !!!

Glenn Nolf

Freezzz Beezzz
Viaduktstraat 6
B8000 Brugge
Email :  <mailto:glenn@km.be> glenn@km.be
Web :  <http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz>
www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz

 

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    Brunel STD Ultimate Club, is hosting an outdoor tournament, on the =
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    This is an all levels tournament, so second team, as well as first =
team entries will be more than welcome.
   =20
    Venue: Brunel campus, Uxbridge, West London.
    Tournament Fee: To be confirmed   =20
    Accomadation: In usual style(Student floors) for all who request it.

    For confirmation of tournament place, or further information, =
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All,

Si Weeks spoke to me last night and wants me to forward on the outcome due
to his lack of email.

As in past years, teams are not able to rotate players between squads,
between indoor regionals and nationals. The reasons behind this are to
prevent teams from spreading their quality players across two teams to get a
1st a and 2nd team to qualify, and the loading the first team in nationals,
and depriving a more deserving team a slot. Under exceptional circumstances
teams have been allowed to rotate players due to injury, but this requires
permission from the DoC in advance of the tournament.

Cheers,

Chris
(XDoC)


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Hi All,
   Sorry for the extremely late notice on this one but due to unforeseen
circumstances several of our players have had to drop out of Sheffield
Open Regionals this weekend leaving us with 9 players to fill two teams.
If anyone can help us so that we don't have to withdraw a team and detract
from the tourney in any way it would be greatly appreciated. If you fancy
playing some top quality ultimate this weekend(even if it ends up being
iron man) please register with YBK as your open indoor team and let me
know. My mobile number is 07968 004972 if you wish to talk, otherwise
email me at crm105@york.ac.uk and send a copy to our club account
socs311@york.ac.uk.

Even if you can only play one day it would be a great help. I just been
telephoned in the midst of writing this email to be told we now have
enough for iron man on the Sunday but are still one short for the
Saturday. Please help if you can.

Sorry for the lack of organisation of our club. Please be aware that I
have not been in charge of organising this, I am merely an emergency
measure called in to try and make sure we have enough players.

If you wish to complain about the lack of organisation please do so to our
captain. You can obtain his email address from our website
www,yorkultimate.co.uk.

Cheers for any help you can provide,
Carl Mewse (The jackal)
YBK17

P.S. Congratulations everyone for the friendly and spirited way
discussions of the Loughborough tourney have taken place. It would have
been a shame if after all the effort put in to organise the event we
lowered ourelves to bickering about it and not taking everyones viewpoint
into consideration.

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I have requested that all Tour TDs run a womens' event
alongside.

Si W. 

--- Jenny Cullen <cullen_jenny@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>
> Are there going to be any Women's tournaments this
> year? Any tour organisers 
> planning on running women's events alongside the
> open games?
> 
> Jenny
> Red

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I have requested that all Tour TDs run a womens' event
alongside.

Si W. 

--- Jenny Cullen <cullen_jenny@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>
> Are there going to be any Women's tournaments this
> year? Any tour organisers 
> planning on running women's events alongside the
> open games?
> 
> Jenny
> Red

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Directions to Weston-Super Mare are as follows:

Leave the M5 at Junction 21 and follow the A370 dual
carriageway towards Weston-Super-Mare.
Once on the dual carraigeway, follow directions to
WSM.
Just after the 3rd roundabout turn right at the
traffic lights. 
This is Hutton Moor Road. Turn immediately left into
the Leisure Centre Car Park. Any problems give me a
call on 07815 126573.

Two teams pulled out last night, so I have got to
completely rewrite the schedule this evening, so I am
afraid I cannot give you any information on first
games. Therefore please all be there by 9am as you
could be playing. 

Cheers,

Si Weeks



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Dear Tournament Directors,

Please find attached the complete roster for the 2002 indoor regionals. Please make sure this whole email is visible at all times throughout your tournaments.

Players who try to attempt to play but are missing from the roster are not only flouting the roster rules, they are also ducking the membership fee which everyone else has had to pay.

Teams found fielding unrostered players may continue playing in the tournament but they must automatically fail to reach the top eight (quarter finals.) Please adjust the Saturday pool play results so that they do not play in the top eight knock-out round. These teams will also be barred from further UK Ultimate competitions until all unrostered players are registered and have paid and fees due.

Junior exceptions: Players under the age of 18 are not included on this roster but may play in the regionals. They are still bound to remain with the same team should they qualify for indoor finals.

If you have any problems or queries you may try to contact myself or Simon Weeks over the weekend.

Thanks

Ben Ravilious
UK Ultimate

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2002 Open Indoor Regionals - Rosters

F514 Alexandersen, Kim ANGELS 
F200 Bagshaw, Laura ANGELS 
F714 Barry, Simon ANGELS 
E771 Bird, Kathy (Tweet) ANGELS 
F203 Bonds, Terry ANGELS 
F728 Cooke, Matthew (Blood) ANGELS 
F165 Furlong, Patrick ANGELS 
F741 Gibbons, Sarah ANGELS 
E198 Hauschild, Christian (Haumovie) ANGELS 
F488 Holden, Sean ANGELS 
S739 James, Laura ANGELS 
E743 Jennings, Ian ANGELS 
E727 Linstow, Jonathan (Milky) ANGELS 
E169 Long, Mig (Mig) ANGELS 
E234 McCollin, Charmeyne ANGELS 
F719 McDonald, Mark ANGELS 
F285 shearing, matt ANGELS 
E750 Siah, Justin ANGELS 
F261 Thornton, Andrew ANGELS 
F818 Ziants, Darren ANGELS 

O342 Bakal, Martin BADHABITS 
F431 Ben-Nathan, Charles (chuckaway) BADHABITS 
E821 Cheng, Kynan BADHABITS 
E822 Curtis, Laura BADHABITS 
E446 Davis, Jeff BADHABITS 
F430 Elliott, Colin BADHABITS 
E792 Friebel, Lizanne (lyzan) BADHABITS 
F679 FROST, SEAN (FROSTY) BADHABITS 
F326 Fulconis, Thierry BADHABITS 
F547 Fuller, Nicholas BADHABITS 
E449 Guido, Vanessa (Guido) BADHABITS 
F303 Holyfield, emily (Em) BADHABITS 
E476 Kielau, Jason BADHABITS 
E578 Krasavin, Alexander (Alex) BADHABITS 
F317 Mitura, Joanna BADHABITS 
F312 O'Donnell, Liz BADHABITS 
F501 Purves, Jenni (Jenni P) BADHABITS 
F720 Sharman, Richard (Rich) BADHABITS 
F304 Sheppard, Mungo (Mo) BADHABITS 
F370 SILVER, DAVID (DAVE) BADHABITS 
F436 Sotiropoulos, Alexis BADHABITS 
E350 teo, shan BADHABITS 
E310 Utting, Matthew BADHABITS 
E327 White, Philippa BADHABITS 

F754 Pioli, Sue BATH ULTIMATE 

S490 Alrasheed, Tarik (Taz) BEARS 
S811 Bridge, Jamie (Man Planet) BEARS 
S527 Buehl, Jeremy (Chip) BEARS 
S641 Capel, Tim BEARS 
S581 Collins, Rob BEARS 
S520 Dodd, Mike (JD) BEARS 
S107 Dye, Tanya BEARS 
S808 Hartley, Luke (Woody) BEARS 
S650 Hodges, Anthony (Ant) BEARS 
S744 Lewis, David BEARS 
S516 McClure, James (Troy) BEARS 
S419 Oxendale, David (Oscar) BEARS 
S777 Spurway, Chris (Fred) BEARS 
S229 Travers, James (Pimpy) BEARS 
S721 Walker, David (Sheepz) BEARS 
S567 Wilson, Michael (Ferret) BEARS 
S598 Woods, Joel BEARS 

F295 Cross, Martin BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 
F184 Duckling, Ian BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 
F278 Greenhalgh, Mark BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 
S528 Laurie, Pete (Lozza) BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 
F740 Lawrence, Matthew (Mat) BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 
S314 Noble, Alex BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 
S266 Noble, Kevin (Kevinho) BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 
S328 Rathbone, Andrew (Slaaaag) BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 
F566 Styles, Tom BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 

E675 Wijnen, Alexander (Alex) BLT 

F640 Arnold, Helen BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
S86 Blair, Tim (Gadget) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F364 Cardew, Merrick (Mezza) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F126 Constable, Richard (Sich) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F164 Ellis, Andy (V) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F255 Gillham, Andrew BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F550 Gomm, Luke (Zulu) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F104 Halliday, Melissa (Missy) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F259 Hewitson, James (Balti) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F94 Hewitson, Nadya BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F207 Hughes, Chris BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F111 Kelman, gordon (G) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F12 KENNETT, GUY (GUY) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F125 Pocklington, Duncan BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F124 Pocklington, Sarah  BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F5 Saunders, Richard (Rav) BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 
F544 vokes, jo BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 

E677 Huntley, Chris CHUFT 
F228 Jones, Gareth (Gaz) CHUFT 
E167 Livingstone, James (Jim-oh) CHUFT 
F4 Russell, Justin CHUFT 
E563 Spencer, Paul (Spen) CHUFT 
E35 Trace, James (Jla) CHUFT 

F36 Dowse, Tim DISC DOCTORS 

E535 Al-said, Taimur (T) DISCOORDINATED 
E534 Cheney, Edward (Ed) DISCOORDINATED 
E533 Cheney, Sam DISCOORDINATED 
E539 Garner, Aldhelm (Olds) DISCOORDINATED 
E829 Hutchison, Tom (Hutchy) DISCOORDINATED 
E571 Keeley, Thomas (Tom) DISCOORDINATED 
E538 Packman, Chris (Chris) DISCOORDINATED 
E541 Palmer, Rupert (Rupe) DISCOORDINATED 
S540 Palmer, Rupert (Rupe) DISCOORDINATED 
E536 Squire, Jon (Jon) DISCOORDINATED 
E570 Sweby, Alexander (Alexis) DISCOORDINATED 
E572 Theophilus, Ian (Ian) DISCOORDINATED 
E787 White, Philip (Phil) DISCOORDINATED 
E461 White, Richard (Rich) DISCOORDINATED 
E551 Brown, Jessie DISCOPHILIA 
R349 Cresey, Jayne (Mumee) DISCOPHILIA 
F447 Davis, Sarah (Sheep) DISCOPHILIA 
F537 Haggerstone, Anne-Louise (Anne) DISCOPHILIA 
S103 Richardson, Philip (Scraggyfil) DISCOPHILIA 
S467 Smith, Alison (Ali) DISCOPHILIA 

S513 Berry, Chris DISCULT 
F2 Desai, Rajendra (Miagi) DISCULT 
S48 Gillam, John DISCULT 
F73 Harding, Alan (Where's Alan) DISCULT 
F288 Lowe, Kevin DISCULT 
S28 Thompson, Jolyon (Jo) DISCULT 
F287 Weeks, Si DISCULT 

F380 ALLEN, PAUL (HORSE) FEVER 
F269 Atkinson, John (Blagger) FEVER 
F114 Davies, Rob (Bobby) FEVER 
E242 Dick, Matt (Biggus) FEVER 
F177 Dickinson, Paul (Dicko) FEVER 
F235 Dray, Ally FEVER 
F22 Dray, Nick FEVER 
S23 Jackson, Richard (LD) FEVER 
F40 Jones, Gareth (Trojan) FEVER 
F145 Lewis, Christopher FEVER 
F233 ROLFE, Ben (mental ben) FEVER 
F193 Sheridan, Dan (sparkee) FEVER 

E472 Lukaschik, Doerthe (Daughter) FINGERS 6 
E217 Delorenzo, Craig (mr burns) FINGERS 6 
O745 Gilby, Anna (TAZ) FINGERS 6 
E715 Martin, James (Mauly) FINGERS 6 
E542 Newman, Gavin FINGERS 6 
E471 Parkinson, Jeremy (Jez) FINGERS 6 
E474 Schuer, Christine (Santa) FINGERS 6 
E218 Wilkinson, Glenn (Wilko) FINGERS 6 

E686 Arwood, Brian (Bandanarama) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E723 Arwood, Brian (Bandanarama) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E699 Bartlett, Amy (Ames!!!) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E681 Brown , Rachel (Googlie) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E694 Crawford, Ruth (Sindy) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E698 Derby, John FLATBALL PROJECT 
E685 Johnson, Alex (Smith) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E682 Masden, Elizabeth (Bunsen Burner) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E684 Silver, Tom (John) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E680 Thavenot, Will (Squeeky) FLATBALL PROJECT 
E683 Young, Kaelan (Smoo) FLATBALL PROJECT 

E736 Birkett, Rowan FLY TNT 
E409 Carleton, Ruth (Crab) FLY TNT 
S335 Chin, Yit-Kwong (Chin) FLY TNT 
F332 Chin, Yit-Kwong (Chin) FLY TNT 
E735 Cragg, Ben FLY TNT 
S79 Gray, Olly FLY TNT 
E277 Hussey, Clare (Huss) FLY TNT 
S593 Kalia, Raj (Sir) FLY TNT 
E589 Manual, Rich FLY TNT 
E591 McCall, Adam FLY TNT 
E737 McLoughlin, Chris FLY TNT 
E596 Paske, Dan FLY TNT 
S733 Pegg, Graham (No talent ass-master) FLY TNT 
E738 Phillips, Jason (Nev) FLY TNT 
E323 Prosser, Grant FLY TNT 
S316 Shah, Chiraag (Chiggz) FLY TNT 
S81 Stewart, Dan FLY TNT 
S659 Tall, Lawrence (Big L) FLY TNT 
E734 Turner, Iain (The Tyrant) FLY TNT 
S174 Wynd, David FLY TNT 

F667 Boot, Andrew (andy) FLYGHTCLUB 
E142 Boring, Andrew (John Galt) FLYGHTCLUB 
F600 Giguere, Stephen (huge) FLYGHTCLUB 
E817 Hogg, Charles FLYGHTCLUB 
E643 Mazur, Marcus FLYGHTCLUB 
F716 Menhart, Milos FLYGHTCLUB 
F108 Rey, Samuel (Samanir) FLYGHTCLUB 
F585 Stapleton, Phil FLYGHTCLUB 
E388 Vandermeulen, Jill FLYGHTCLUB 

F45 Andreasson, Fredrik (Freddie) HAMMERAGE 
S756 Armitage, John (Scot) HAMMERAGE 
F561 Bluck, Dave (Bluck) HAMMERAGE 
F562 Campbell, Gillon HAMMERAGE 
F564 DAVIS, DIANE HAMMERAGE 
F54 Dobson, Matthew HAMMERAGE 
F26 EASTMAN, DAVID HAMMERAGE 
F66 Frigot, Sarah HAMMERAGE 
E664 Gaudet, Ginette HAMMERAGE 
F24 Grigson, Edward HAMMERAGE 
E286 Hammann, Lyrica HAMMERAGE 
E319 Harvey, Philip HAMMERAGE 
F67 Huyck, Christian HAMMERAGE 
E580 Kaul, Karl J. (smooth) HAMMERAGE 
F658 Lambert, Ken HAMMERAGE 
F256 purdie, john (purdisc) HAMMERAGE 
E662 Raheja, Mark HAMMERAGE 
F101 Rawi, Zaid (Z) HAMMERAGE 
E93 Rusnock, Jeremy HAMMERAGE 
E160 Samsudin, Sarinah HAMMERAGE 
E451 Scott, Muz HAMMERAGE 
F227 Simon, Norris HAMMERAGE 
F11 Smith, Colin HAMMERAGE 
F120 Zhang, Yale HAMMERAGE 

E816 Barnet, Mike JEDI 
778 Gardner, Ross (Big Guy) JEDI 
S27 Hims, Rich JEDI 
E383 Milmo, Sasi JEDI 
F775 Pearce, Jonno (Convoy) JEDI 
S483 Perry, Felicity (Flea) JEDI 
S813 Russell, Chris JEDI 
S339 Salter, John (Jesus) JEDI 
E341 White, Chris (Aussie) JEDI 
S433 Wilson, Adam (Scooby) JEDI 
S52 Winter, Anna (Spanna) JEDI 

F796 Bowker, Helen (Hels Bels) JESTERS 
S381 Dyke, Ruth (Streuth) JESTERS 
S602 Gough, Marcus (Mr Sidearm) JESTERS 
S92 Kett, Paul JESTERS 
F148 Lowe, Matt JESTERS 
S91 Parkinson, Rachel JESTERS 
F692 selkirk, neil (nev) JESTERS 
S334 Smith, Sian JESTERS 
E241 Williams, Martin JESTERS 

R393 Billingham, Chris KAMAYA MAYA 
R392 Billingham, Tim KAMAYA MAYA 
R397 Bolstridge, Tom KAMAYA MAYA 
R398 Daniel, Friedeberg KAMAYA MAYA 
R396 Dathan, Simon KAMAYA MAYA 
R481 Denham, Tom KAMAYA MAYA 
R480 Hill, Chris KAMAYA MAYA 
R395 Lewis, Gareth KAMAYA MAYA 
R482 Michael, Bolstridge KAMAYA MAYA 
R587 Miller, Tom KAMAYA MAYA 
R394 Watson, John KAMAYA MAYA 

F296 Bottomley, Clifford (Cliff) LURKERS 
F460 Gibson, Iain LURKERS 
F375 hall, simon (don't be a cu*t) LURKERS 

F651 chaignon, clotilde (clo) MAVIS 

E783 anstey, nicola (nicky) MENTAL DISCS 
E762 CHESHIRE, CHRIS MENTAL DISCS 
F802 Davidson, Raz MENTAL DISCS 
E765 DIXON, ANDREW MENTAL DISCS 
E768 FRUIN, kirsten MENTAL DISCS 
E763 green, maxine (mim) MENTAL DISCS 
S171 HOMEWOOD, MATT (MOLEY) MENTAL DISCS 
S522 platt, daniel MENTAL DISCS 
E674 wilks, hannah MENTAL DISCS 

F237 Boreham, Tom MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 
F499 Gage, Chris MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 
F32 Neilson, Dave (Sammy) MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 
F759 Saxton, Mike MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 
F25 Shipley, Rik MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 
F173 Shipley, Steve MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 
F284 Tucker, Andrew (Norm) MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 
F76 Waite, Paul (Voodoo) MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 

E693 Adderley, Daniel MOHAWKS 
S219 Cutler, Matt (juan) MOHAWKS 
E605 McNaughton, James (Shed) MOHAWKS 
E671 Murray, Iain (Schmian) MOHAWKS 
O555 Nadvornik, Ondrej MOHAWKS 
S212 Roberts, Nicole (Maaafy Bird) MOHAWKS 
F809 Shardlow, Ed MOHAWKS 
S438 Shardlow, Felix (Felchers) MOHAWKS 
S437 Tomlinson, Roland (Sexy-Terry) MOHAWKS 
S812 white, tom MOHAWKS 

F358 Burke, Martin (Mr Greedy) MR MEN 
F330 Lutley, James (Mr Snow) MR MEN 
F357 Mudge, Damian MR MEN 
F420 Smart, Derek (Del) MR MEN 
E305 Smart, Richard (Mr Skinny) MR MEN 
F210 Standring, Andrew MR MEN 

F150 beyer, sirona MUD CULTURE 
S607 Bierbach, Maxim MUD CULTURE 
S385 Brown, Roseanne MUD CULTURE 
F552 Dean, McBride MUD CULTURE 
S425 Dobson, Glen MUD CULTURE 
E115 Felgner, Erik MUD CULTURE 
E162 fyffe, adam (fruitman) MUD CULTURE 
S50 gardiner, carol MUD CULTURE 
F333 Howard, Ashley MUD CULTURE 
S55 Leach, Jonathan MUD CULTURE 
F53 Mac Donald, Peter MUD CULTURE 
S372 McEwan, Neil MUD CULTURE 
F57 o boyle, myra MUD CULTURE 
F761 Pringle, Malcolm MUD CULTURE 
S400 Reiter, Andreas (Schuie) MUD CULTURE 
F760 Schildgen, Taylor MUD CULTURE 
F298 Smallwood, Lucy MUD CULTURE 
F299 Smith, Mark (Dodgy) MUD CULTURE 
S157 Thompson, Gemma MUD CULTURE 
E102 Thompson, Kirsty MUD CULTURE 
S99 Weatherill, Jonathan (JJ) MUD CULTURE 
S204 Webb, Philip MUD CULTURE 
S85 webb, shaun MUD CULTURE 
F803 Whitehurst, Beth MUD CULTURE 

E747 Blake, Chris MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E751 Burkhorrelt, Pawel MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E389 cable, lou (moowi) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E294 Cleveland, Daniel (dannboy) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E753 cooper, glenn (G man) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E755 Coward, Ric (Mr Lover Lover ak.a da big man) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E387 Croft, Louri (Lance) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E574 Greaves, Andrew (Jandeeh / John) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E767 Greeves, Andy (John) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E599 Howard, James (JIM) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E468 King, Andy (lil Andy) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E601 Lollas, James (hong-kong james) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E748 Long, Harriet (Hazza) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E764 Ravidran, Roshan (spanky) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E573 Ravindran, Roshan (Mr Motivator) MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E592 Ryan, Butler MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 
E575 SIMONOT, Rus MUTE ANIMAL UNIT 

E134 Black, Robyn (Bob/Wizbit) MWNCI SEE 
S678 BROWN, EMMA (BUFFALO) MWNCI SEE 
E49 Brown, Jordan (Luggage) MWNCI SEE 
S236 Everett, Richard (Gump) MWNCI SEE 
E548 Gilbert, Ceri-Ann (Cez/Goldfish) MWNCI SEE 
E7 Halstead, Jake (Twin) MWNCI SEE 
S201 Humphrey, Robin MWNCI SEE 
F713 Jarvis, Richard MWNCI SEE 
S382 Lee, Steven (IFG) MWNCI SEE 
E74 Mackian, Richard MWNCI SEE 
S84 Twomey, Dominic (Dom) MWNCI SEE 
E18 Wittle, Paul MWNCI SEE 
E412 WRIGHT, JEMMA (MOUNTI) MWNCI SEE 

S292 Antell, Ally NO FRILLS 
S344 Austin, Stuart NO FRILLS 
S44 Barnard, David NO FRILLS 
S606 Corre, Kathryn NO FRILLS 
E47 Egerton, Carole NO FRILLS 
F604 Moore, David (Deejay) NO FRILLS 
S291 Nishiyama, Tasha (Taz) NO FRILLS 
S724 Rogers, Michael NO FRILLS 
S717 Snell, Claerwen NO FRILLS 

S752 Byrne, Lucy NO WUKKAS 

E223 Brenneman, Laura NORTHERN LIGHTS 

S33 Alexander, David ODDJOB 
F257 Bolton, Joseph (Muppet) ODDJOB 
S6 Cuddihy, Brendan ODDJOB 
F275 Matt , Vale (Italian) ODDJOB 
F273 Mawer, Andy ODDJOB 
F95 Owen, Robert Dylan ODDJOB 
F272 Randal, John ODDJOB 
F410 Randall, John ODDJOB 
F143 Silcock, Ben (Silk) ODDJOB 
S21 Webb, Garry (gaz/ mary) ODDJOB 

F220 Butt, Jonathan (Maverick) OW! 

E576 Binnie, Keith PHAT 'EDS 
E456 Connell, Alisdair (Al) PHAT 'EDS 
E517 D'Orleans, Robert PHAT 'EDS 
S665 Elliott, Peter (Phat Ass) PHAT 'EDS 
F524 Greenland, Kate PHAT 'EDS 
E654 Halliwell, Philip (Phil) PHAT 'EDS 
S14 Hutton, Tony PHAT 'EDS 
E579 Johnson, Matthew PHAT 'EDS 
E484 Ko, Hing Fai (Koster) PHAT 'EDS 
E450 Linehan, Peter PHAT 'EDS 
R749 Liong, Sze Jon (Sze Jon) PHAT 'EDS 
F426 Moore, Catherine PHAT 'EDS 
E711 Morris, Paul PHAT 'EDS 
E515 Quinn, Alisa PHAT 'EDS 
E801 salam, alex PHAT 'EDS 
S39 Sealy, Dave PHAT 'EDS 
E487 Smith, Michael PHAT 'EDS 
S493 Twohig, Helen PHAT 'EDS 
E653 Wilson, Tim PHAT 'EDS 

F492 BAKER, MATTHEW (BEAN) PLAYTHINGS 
F245 Balls, Steve PLAYTHINGS 
F309 decicco, jaison PLAYTHINGS 
E445 Holmes, Claida PLAYTHINGS 
F384 Hornsey, Neil PLAYTHINGS 
F442 Lewis, Glyn PLAYTHINGS 
F444 Pfeiffer, Sven PLAYTHINGS 
F324 Pugh, Katy PLAYTHINGS 
E290 Salman, Paul PLAYTHINGS 

E704 Easton, Douglas (Dougie) POSITIVE MOJO 
S403 Gardner, David (NSC Dave) POSITIVE MOJO 
E705 MacRoberts, Scott (ScottyDog) POSITIVE MOJO 
E703 Presly, James (Jippy) POSITIVE MOJO 
S708 Price, Ben POSITIVE MOJO 
S806 Rutherford, William (Will) POSITIVE MOJO 
S706 Urquhart, Jamie POSITIVE MOJO 
E702 Van Cleef, Roy POSITIVE MOJO 

E473 Pasloske, Jacqueline PRINCESS LAYOUT 
F315 Sentman, Melissa PRINCESS LAYOUT 

E457 Bailey, Keith PURPLE HAZE 
E454 Banner, Clive (Evil C) PURPLE HAZE 
E455 Bayoumi, Mish (Mish) PURPLE HAZE 
E452 Blofeld, Stephen (Blowers) PURPLE HAZE 
E458 Brinkworth, Robert (Brink) PURPLE HAZE 
E791 Brown, Jason (Dexter) PURPLE HAZE 
S318 Cornelius, Will (Caesar) PURPLE HAZE 
E463 Edwards, Mark (Butter) PURPLE HAZE 
E466 Furnell, Daniel (Colonel) PURPLE HAZE 
E469 Graham, Jono (Hands) PURPLE HAZE 
E475 Horlor, Matt (Horologist) PURPLE HAZE 
E477 Jackson, Chris (Wiggy) PURPLE HAZE 
E616 Jahn, Rene (Renoir) PURPLE HAZE 
E478 Leese, Jonathon (Jonty) PURPLE HAZE 
E479 Locke, William PURPLE HAZE 
E486 Low, Evan (Rubes) PURPLE HAZE 
E489 Muirwood, Andrew (Fogg) PURPLE HAZE 
E495 Reid, Greg (Reidy) PURPLE HAZE 
F186 Rose, Darren (Dazza) PURPLE HAZE 
E491 Russell, Rapstone (Rusty) PURPLE HAZE 
E497 Salkeld, Paul (Salks) PURPLE HAZE 
E506 Samwell, Jamie (J) PURPLE HAZE 
E508 Sion, Scone (Brummie) PURPLE HAZE 
E774 Smith, Heather (Hev) PURPLE HAZE 
E510 Smith, James (Skinburn) PURPLE HAZE 
F139 Standen, Chris (Towers) PURPLE HAZE 
E559 Stead, Matthew (Steady) PURPLE HAZE 
E560 Townsend, James (Gulliver) PURPLE HAZE 
E773 Watts, Charlie PURPLE HAZE 
S300 Wilcox, Hannah (Haych) PURPLE HAZE 

O807 Bell, Katherine RANDOM FLING 
E558 Cheeseman, Mark RANDOM FLING 
S557 CLOKE, MATTHEW RANDOM FLING 
E814 Cooper, James (Jimbo) RANDOM FLING 
S293 Davies, Alex RANDOM FLING 
S282 Gage, Simon RANDOM FLING 
O805 Huijenen, Jessica RANDOM FLING 
S72 Maynard, Nick RANDOM FLING 
E276 Monaghan, Lorrie RANDOM FLING 
E810 Rutter, Emma (M) RANDOM FLING 

E583 Baker, Bill (Bill) RED 
R668 beavan, matthew (beavs) RED 
F9 Church, Simon RED 
F722 Clark, Bob RED 
F584 Cullen, Jenny RED 
F133 GARRETT, JOHN (BISTO) RED 
F799 King, Brian RED 
F648 Lam, Hwo (The Laminator) RED 
R669 line, peter RED 
F588 McIntosh, Duncan RED 
R672 mcqueen, harris (hag) RED 
S627 Richards, Martin (JTM) RED 
R670 scoppie, oliver (skipp) RED 
E790 Scotland, Mia RED 
F511 Stebbing, Ian RED 
F509 Stebbing, Nancy RED 
F70 Taylor, Ruth RED 
F789 Townsend, Simon (Towny) RED 
F63 Unwin, Paul (Stig) RED 

E424 appleby, laura (laura) RO-SHAM-BO 
S202 Banton, Graham RO-SHAM-BO 
S503 Cuthbertson, Lindsay RO-SHAM-BO 
E307 Doubal, Robert (Rocky) RO-SHAM-BO 
E195 Duncan, Andrew (Twiggy) RO-SHAM-BO 
E597 Edge, Kath RO-SHAM-BO 
O264 Heyde, Clarissa RO-SHAM-BO 
E306 Levey, Karen RO-SHAM-BO 
E725 Little, Amy RO-SHAM-BO 
E500 McConachie, Iain (Con) RO-SHAM-BO 
E263 McDougall, Alex RO-SHAM-BO 
F199 McGill, Alan RO-SHAM-BO 
F462 McGill, Graham RO-SHAM-BO 
E178 Nicoll, James RO-SHAM-BO 
E240 Riddell, Sheena RO-SHAM-BO 
E423 White, Harriet (Harri) RO-SHAM-BO 

S75 Addie, Jean-Paul (Mr. J.P.) SHOOTING STARS 
E746 Charlton, Greig SHOOTING STARS 
E770 Clifford, Gavin (Thrush) SHOOTING STARS 
E470 clinghan, richard (bobilicious) SHOOTING STARS 
S268 Davies, Ross (The Bacon) SHOOTING STARS 
S769 Hockings, Wendy SHOOTING STARS 
S209 Hood, Jennie (Big Janine) SHOOTING STARS 
E526 Jenkins, David SHOOTING STARS 
S254 Kenwell, E. Elaine (Lainey) SHOOTING STARS 
E666 Padgham, James (Jimbo) SHOOTING STARS 
S252 Potter, Andy SHOOTING STARS 
S246 Simpson, John SHOOTING STARS 
E663 Smith, Joseph SHOOTING STARS 
E800 Taylor, Sarah SHOOTING STARS 
E216 Unger, Alexander SHOOTING STARS 
E251 Veitch, Jonathan (John) SHOOTING STARS 
E532 Wilson, Ross SHOOTING STARS 

F373 Cox, Andy (Angie) SKUMY 
F378 Gibert, Liz SKUMY 
F308 Ost, Andrew SKUMY 
E441 Tomlinson, Emma SKUMY 

S617 Abrams, Rich SKUNKS 
E623 Bisdee, Ed SKUNKS 
S624 Campbell, Alex SKUNKS 
S250 Feltham, Andrew (Trigger) SKUNKS 
S626 Gower, Tom (Turkish) SKUNKS 
E619 Gray, Edward SKUNKS 
E630 Harris, Craig SKUNKS 
F633 Howlett, Thomas SKUNKS 
S631 Kingston, Emily SKUNKS 
E636 Laney, Jane SKUNKS 
S625 Matthews, Rob SKUNKS 
S618 McMillan, Caroline SKUNKS 
F638 Pennington, Neil (Marv) SKUNKS 
F622 Pennington, Sally SKUNKS 
E613 Pordage, Alexander SKUNKS 
S16 Rees, Lewis (Loz) SKUNKS 
S10 Seabrook, Aaron (Random) SKUNKS 
E620 Sharp, Robert SKUNKS 
S628 Sinnet-Jones, Polly (Bisto) SKUNKS 
E611 Smith, claire SKUNKS 
E621 Stock, david SKUNKS 
F608 Toner, Ben SKUNKS 
S614 West, Lorna SKUNKS 
S610 whitter, Lucy SKUNKS 
S615 Williams, Simon SKUNKS 

F64 Allen, Matthew (Mal.) SLIPDISC 
F297 Brammer, Martin SLIPDISC 
F224 Cooper, Phil SLIPDISC 
F90 Coughlan, John SLIPDISC 
S77 Dykes, Richard SLIPDISC 
F51 Godber, Andrew SLIPDISC 
E231 Godber, Lorraine SLIPDISC 
F804 Harris, Alex SLIPDISC 
F221 Harris, Stephanie SLIPDISC 
F149 Holden, Paul SLIPDISC 
S244 Kono, Akemi (Kiwi) SLIPDISC 
F68 Ottner, Simon (Nev) SLIPDISC 
E213 Price, Elizabeth (Evil Weed) SLIPDISC 
E42 Robinson, Paul SLIPDISC 
S69 Sanderson, Robin (Roadkill) SLIPDISC 
E58 Thickett, Adam (Adam) SLIPDISC 

E356 Askwith, Trevor (Trev) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E362 Badcock, Matthew (Baggy) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E530 Candy, Ben SLURREY SLINGERS 
S361 Ching-A-Sue, Karen Samantha (Kaz) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E351 Culnane, Chris (Chris) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E402 Evans, Michael SLURREY SLINGERS 
E363 Fowler, Nathan SLURREY SLINGERS 
E271 Fudge, Stewart (Fudge) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E776 Harrison, James SLURREY SLINGERS 
S352 Jackson, Robert SLURREY SLINGERS 
E417 JENKINS, SUSIE MARIE SLURREY SLINGERS 
E368 Kilford, Peter SLURREY SLINGERS 
E494 MARSH, LUKE SLURREY SLINGERS 
E360 Marston, Kevin SLURREY SLINGERS 
E390 O'Connor, Mike SLURREY SLINGERS 
E346 Patel, Emal (Ash) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E374 Richardson, Mark SLURREY SLINGERS 
S376 Sawyer, Richard SLURREY SLINGERS 
E355 Sehmi, Navroop (Nav) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E411 Shia, Christopher SLURREY SLINGERS 
E386 Starr, Maxwell (Max) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E406 Watts, Richard (Rich) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E529 Wilson, Andrew (Wilf) SLURREY SLINGERS 
E359 Wright, Robert (Skunk) SLURREY SLINGERS 

F180 Mooney, Richard (MC) SMASH & GRAB 

F594 Catlin, Andy (Candy) SNEEEKY'S 
E786 Lord, Tanya SNEEEKY'S 
F369 Macrae, Fraser SNEEEKY'S 
F225 Mallarkey, Andrew (Andy) SNEEEKY'S 
F190 Mullinger, Stuart SNEEEKY'S 
F779 rodesano, ed SNEEEKY'S 
F565 Sankurie, Pye (Kurie) SNEEEKY'S 
E183 Urton, Geoff SNEEEKY'S 
F784 Wilson, Andrew (Miggins) SNEEEKY'S 

F348 Batchelor, Adam (Fatboy) SNOAP 
F788 Christofi, Andrew (AC) SNOAP 
F331 Davey, Wayne SNOAP 
F311 Don, Alistair (aL ) SNOAP 
F153 Gwynn, Nic (Lizard) SNOAP 
F243 Hallett, Peter SNOAP 
F320 Morris, Ru SNOAP 

F205 Candlin, Tom (Fish Legs) SPACE MONKEYS 
F155 Marsh, Chris (Elf) SPACE MONKEYS 
F132 McGrath, Joe (Chaff) SPACE MONKEYS 
F1 Ravilious, Ben SPACE MONKEYS 
S523 Shellswell, Graham SPACE MONKEYS 
S512 Smith, Luke (Lowg) SPACE MONKEYS 
S415 Thackrah, Iain (Thac) SPACE MONKEYS 
F422 Whitehouse, Rob (Huckleberry) SPACE MONKEYS 
S121 wright, peter (rodders) SPACE MONKEYS 

S421 Alison, Keith (KeithyBoy) STD 
S691 Ayub, Alia STD 
S687 Bird, Matt (Floppy) STD 
S655 BIRD, MATTHEW STD 
S96 cosgrove, cormac STD 
S194 Ford, Graeme STD 
S448 Forsdike, Alex STD 
S695 Heywood, Ben (Whippit) STD 
S696 Hore, James (FlimFlim) STD 
S188 Lord, Sam STD 
S525 Mc Rory, Richard (Richie) STD 
S214 Meyer, Heidi (Heids) STD 
S657 Millar, John STD 
S689 Millar, John (Tommy) STD 
S688 Pappas, Matthew (Abe) STD 
R459 Pechey, Stephen STD 
S697 Pechey, Steve (Pish) STD 
S401 Phillips, Craig (Lovechild) STD 
S518 Scott, Mike (Billy The Kid) STD 

E635 Bingham, Fiona (Tokyo) STIRLING BLAZE 
E637 Brassey, Christina (Salad) STIRLING BLAZE 
S634 Carlisle, Mike (JB) STIRLING BLAZE 
S249 Doran, Christopher (Wombo) STIRLING BLAZE 
S644 Humphries, Richard (Big Dick) STIRLING BLAZE 
S43 JOHNSTON , ROBIN (WONDERBOY) STIRLING BLAZE 
S639 MacDonald, Craig (Rage) STIRLING BLAZE 
E646 MacGregor, John STIRLING BLAZE 
E645 Macklin, Amanda (Gringa) STIRLING BLAZE 
E642 McNeice, Lisa (Legless) STIRLING BLAZE 
S632 Philips, Darren-Pierre (Ladykiller) STIRLING BLAZE 
S647 Somerville, Christopher (Gingerbeard) STIRLING BLAZE 
E649 Stasiak, Jillian (Boston Girl) STIRLING BLAZE 

E399 Allan, Dave STRANGE BLUE 
E151 Baliga, Roshan STRANGE BLUE 
E549 Bowyer, Gavin STRANGE BLUE 
E407 brockington, dan (spidey) STRANGE BLUE 
E367 Chapman, Mark STRANGE BLUE 
F556 Cox, David STRANGE BLUE 
S129 Crofts, Dave (Stretch) STRANGE BLUE 
S131 Eaton, Dave STRANGE BLUE 
E700 Halliwell, Mark (Mark) STRANGE BLUE 
S112 Harris, Jonathan STRANGE BLUE 
S260 Harwood, Matt STRANGE BLUE 
S118 Heger, Andreas STRANGE BLUE 
F365 Hember, Miles STRANGE BLUE 
F345 Leenderts, Alexander (Sander) STRANGE BLUE 
E502 Lowe, James (The Beast) STRANGE BLUE 
E709 Peters, Josh STRANGE BLUE 
E338 Richard, Sutton STRANGE BLUE 
E819 Swann, Allen STRANGE BLUE 

F222 Baker, Aidan SUBLIME 
E710 Davies, Oliver (Olly) SUBLIME 
S170 Glover, Lewis (Loopy) SUBLIME 
F105 Hutchinson, Chris (Cheesy) SUBLIME 
S582 Povey, David (Silver) SUBLIME 
S629 Shaw, Gareth (Gaz) SUBLIME 
F189 Stevens, Nicky (Nicky) SUBLIME 
S507 Whiting, William SUBLIME 
S464 Wood, Stephen SUBLIME 

F15 Crick, Ben (Stroke) TEAMSHARK 
F609 Fletcher, Graham TEAMSHARK 
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Hello,

Just to let you know that Simon Statham is off work for 3 weeks, and if
there are any problems for any of the Beginners Tournament teams, then
either get in contact with me via e-mail/mobile (07733 426124), or phone
Simon on his mobile 07779 661728, and one of us should be able to sort you
out.

Captains meeting 12:15pm Saturday 2nd March, at King Edward Girls School,
Edgbaston, Birmingham. Silly hats for experienced players MUST be worn at
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Just to let you know that Simon Statham is off work =
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Mr Men seem to have found themselves a little short of players for the national qualifiers in Weston-Super-Mare this weekend. If anyone fancies picking up for us we'd be glad of some help. 

We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember they won't let you play for someone else at the nationals if we don't qualify.

Reply to Martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk (not on britdisc) before 16:30 today, or phone me on 0790 4503210

Thanks,
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...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've registered and paid any dues.

Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't even get a team together?

Ben 
UK Ultimate 


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Martin Burke" <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk>

>We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember >they won't let you play for someone else at the nationals if 
>we don't qualify.

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Ben,

I am sure that I am not the only person that finds that comment a little bit
patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams out there that want
pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 people for 2 teams), but we
are still going to the tournaments. It was briefly suggested that we drop
out of one, but that was immediately dismissed because it would be a crap
thing to do to the organisers. There are times when, despite having 20-30
active club members, other issues (Injury, work, and just other life
commitments) take hold, and our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am
sure this has happened to other teams, and that is why they are keen to get
pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament altogether. One of the great
things about Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much
as possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they just
don't feel like it.

I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be an e-mail entirely
be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just want the 5 biggest/best
clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and forget about the rest of
the other competitors? Because obviously 'us people' are apparently spoiling
the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in favour of the
registration/rostering process, but I think you could have phrased your
point a little bit better.

*Looking forward to running all weekend in an iron-man team*

Andrew Godber
Slipdisc

-----Original Message-----
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To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke
Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required




...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've registered
and paid any dues.

Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't even get a team
together?

Ben 
UK Ultimate 


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Martin Burke" <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk>

>We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember >they won't
let you play for someone else at the nationals if 
>we don't qualify.

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am sure that I am not the only person that finds =
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teams out there that want pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers =
(10 people for 2 teams), but we are still going to the tournaments. It =
was briefly suggested that we drop out of one, but that was immediately =
dismissed because it would be a crap thing to do to the organisers. =
There are times when, despite having 20-30 active club members, other =
issues (Injury, work, and just other life commitments) take hold, and =
our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am sure this has happened to =
other teams, and that is why they are keen to get pick-ups, and avoid =
missing the tournament altogether. One of the great things about =
Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much as =
possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they =
just don't feel like it.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be =
an e-mail entirely be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just =
want the 5 biggest/best clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, =
and forget about the rest of the other competitors? Because obviously =
'us people' are apparently spoiling the sport for the rest of you. I am =
entirely in favour of the registration/rostering process, but I think =
you could have phrased your point a little bit better.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>*Looking forward to running all weekend in an =
iron-man team*</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andrew Godber</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Slipdisc</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Ben Ravilious [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:ben@ravilious.net">mailto:ben@ravilious.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups =
required</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>...and 'they' won't let you play in another event =
until you've registered and paid any dues.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Why do you people bother entering the nationals if =
you can't even get a team together?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ben </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>UK Ultimate </FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>---------- Original Message =
----------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: &quot;Martin Burke&quot; =
&lt;martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk&gt;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, =
but remember &gt;they won't let you play for someone else at the =
nationals if </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;we don't qualify.</FONT>
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I'm sorry but I am on Ben's side. 
 
If a team turns up with too few players (ie less than ironman), they are
ruining the games for all their opponents over that weekend. If the
tournament director has to reschedule due to a team dropping out, that is a
ridiculous amount of extra work for him/her. There are not many valid
excuses for team members not coming to a tournament they have already
committed to. Gauging your work commitments, or your "other life"
commitments should happen BEFORE you tell your team captain you can go to a
tournament, not a couple of days beforehand. If you turn up Ironman, then
it's just about excusable, but it only takes on injury before you're going
to disappoint your opponents.
 
This is the QUALIFIER for the indoor NATIONALS, and if you're committed to
schmindoors, then it's an important tournament. Looking for pickups so late
in the day is letting down the rest of the teams who are committed to making
it a competitive tournament.
 
Andy
Chevron
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Godber [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]
Sent: 22 February 2002 16:49
To: 'ben@ravilious.net'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required



Ben, 

I am sure that I am not the only person that finds that comment a little bit
patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams out there that want
pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 people for 2 teams), but we
are still going to the tournaments. It was briefly suggested that we drop
out of one, but that was immediately dismissed because it would be a crap
thing to do to the organisers. There are times when, despite having 20-30
active club members, other issues (Injury, work, and just other life
commitments) take hold, and our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am
sure this has happened to other teams, and that is why they are keen to get
pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament altogether. One of the great
things about Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much
as possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they just
don't feel like it.

I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be an e-mail entirely
be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just want the 5 biggest/best
clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and forget about the rest of
the other competitors? Because obviously 'us people' are apparently spoiling
the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in favour of the
registration/rostering process, but I think you could have phrased your
point a little bit better.

*Looking forward to running all weekend in an iron-man team* 

Andrew Godber 
Slipdisc 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ben Ravilious [ mailto:ben@ravilious.net <mailto:ben@ravilious.net> ] 
Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42 
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke 
Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required 




...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've registered
and paid any dues. 

Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't even get a team
together? 

Ben 
UK Ultimate 


---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- 
From: "Martin Burke" <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk> 

>We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember >they won't
let you play for someone else at the nationals if 

>we don't qualify. 

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Andrew et al,
 
I would have thought it's just Ben's frustration at having spent months and
months bringing the Association to fruition, then realising at the last
minute exactly what big organisational problems people changing rosters like
this will cause at the regionals this weekend.
 
"Please sir, Stringy Student has been playing with Fictionaltown Frisbee but
is rostered with Unrulybunch Ultimate - can we go through to the top 8
instead please?" is probably only a mild version of what could happen. I
know we're all hippy spirit-minded players, but there's more and more of the
bowling green mentality seeping in every day as we grow and get more
organised. Unfortunately it's probably an unavoidable side-effect of the
increasingly competitive tournaments in the UK, but feel sorry for the poor
b****rs who've got to deal with it all.....
 
Anyway, I've just realised I'm defending a Red player so I'll shut up now
and let you flame him some more - after all it's not like he's done much for
British Ultimate the last year or so.
 
Surely it's just funny? A bit like Madge from Home and Away getting slightly
rattled with Alf. We're all supposed to be a happy family after all. This
mailing list has lost so much of it's sense of humour recently I'm tempted
to give a bong out as a prize at Winter League....
 
Anyway, you all enjoy your schmindoors this weekend - make sure someone
beats the Druids please. 
 
:-)
 
Silver Bear
cu#1
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Godber [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]
Sent: 22 February 2002 16:49
To: 'ben@ravilious.net'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required



Ben, 

I am sure that I am not the only person that finds that comment a little bit
patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams out there that want
pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 people for 2 teams), but we
are still going to the tournaments. It was briefly suggested that we drop
out of one, but that was immediately dismissed because it would be a crap
thing to do to the organisers. There are times when, despite having 20-30
active club members, other issues (Injury, work, and just other life
commitments) take hold, and our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am
sure this has happened to other teams, and that is why they are keen to get
pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament altogether. One of the great
things about Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much
as possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they just
don't feel like it.

I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be an e-mail entirely
be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just want the 5 biggest/best
clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and forget about the rest of
the other competitors? Because obviously 'us people' are apparently spoiling
the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in favour of the
registration/rostering process, but I think you could have phrased your
point a little bit better.

*Looking forward to running all weekend in an iron-man team* 

Andrew Godber 
Slipdisc 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ben Ravilious [ mailto:ben@ravilious.net <mailto:ben@ravilious.net> ] 
Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42 
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke 
Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required 




...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've registered
and paid any dues. 

Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't even get a team
together? 

Ben 
UK Ultimate 


---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- 
From: "Martin Burke" <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk> 

>We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember >they won't
let you play for someone else at the nationals if 

>we don't qualify. 




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<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Andrew 
et al,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
would have thought it's just Ben's frustration at having spent months and months 
bringing the Association to fruition, then realising at the last minute 
exactly&nbsp;what big organisational problems&nbsp;people changing rosters like 
this will cause at the regionals this weekend.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>"Please sir, Stringy Student has been playing with Fictionaltown Frisbee 
but is rostered with Unrulybunch Ultimate - can we go through to the top 8 
instead please?" is probably only a mild version of what could happen. I know 
we're all hippy spirit-minded players, but there's more and more of the bowling 
green mentality seeping in every day as we grow and get more organised. 
Unfortunately it's probably an unavoidable&nbsp;side-effect of the increasingly 
competitive tournaments in the UK, but feel sorry for the poor b****rs who've 
got to deal with it all.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Anyway, I've just realised I'm defending a Red player so I'll shut up now 
and let you flame him some more - after all it's not like he's done much for 
British Ultimate the last year or so.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Surely 
it's just funny? A bit like Madge from Home and Away getting slightly rattled 
with Alf. We're all supposed to be a happy family after all. This mailing list 
has lost so much of it's sense of humour recently I'm tempted to give a bong out 
as a prize at Winter League....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Anyway, you all enjoy your schmindoors this weekend - make sure someone 
beats the Druids please. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>:-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Silver 
Bear</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>cu#1</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=132271717-22022002></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=132271717-22022002>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
Andrew Godber [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 22 February 2002 
16:49<BR><B>To:</B> 'ben@ravilious.net'; 
britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups 
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  <P><FONT size=2>Ben,</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>I am sure that I am not the only person that finds that 
  comment a little bit patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams out there 
  that want pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 people for 2 
  teams), but we are still going to the tournaments. It was briefly suggested 
  that we drop out of one, but that was immediately dismissed because it would 
  be a crap thing to do to the organisers. There are times when, despite having 
  20-30 active club members, other issues (Injury, work, and just other life 
  commitments) take hold, and our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am sure 
  this has happened to other teams, and that is why they are keen to get 
  pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament altogether. One of the great things 
  about Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much as 
  possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they just 
  don't feel like it.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be an e-mail 
  entirely be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just want the 5 
  biggest/best clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and forget about the 
  rest of the other competitors? Because obviously 'us people' are apparently 
  spoiling the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in favour of the 
  registration/rostering process, but I think you could have phrased your point 
  a little bit better.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>*Looking forward to running all weekend in an iron-man 
  team*</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Andrew Godber</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Slipdisc</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: Ben 
  Ravilious [<A 
  href="mailto:ben@ravilious.net">mailto:ben@ravilious.net</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: 
  britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Re: 
  Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've 
  registered and paid any dues.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't 
  even get a team together?</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Ben </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>UK Ultimate </FONT></P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>---------- Original Message 
  ----------------------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: "Martin 
  Burke" &lt;martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk&gt;</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>&gt;We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but 
  remember &gt;they won't let you play for someone else at the nationals if 
  </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>&gt;we don't qualify.</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Andrew and others,

To be blunt with you, no I don't think it was either patronising or degrading especially as the team in question are all experienced players who have been playing for years.

Every year we get something kicking off because one team or another fields ineligible players or otherwise tries to wing it. The fall-out is usually blame on the organisation for not explaining or communicating something. This year not only are we trying to run things more professionally but there is players hard cash involved - therefore the rules have to be applied. 

Because this has been somewhat hurried we have said we are willing to make concessions - but ONLY if teams let us know their problems. If a team really has a genuine problem (e.g. someone is badly hurt or they all go down with the 'flu) then of course we can be flexible - just let us know. Touting for pick-ups for Nationals on Britdisc after the roster deadline does not count as 'letting us know' in my book.

I repeat what I said earlier in the week, if you want to play in laid back events where noone really minds who you play for then go check out the calendar - there is such a great choice nowadays. The nationals however is the one and only time when this is not acceptable because teams expect a well run and properly policed championship.

And for the record I too have work and life commitments (no really!) which is why you must forgive me if I get just a *little* annoyed by teams that just don't give a damn at events which we've worked hard to improve.

Enjoy the weekend wherever you are and don't feed the Space Monkeys.

Ben 



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Andrew Godber <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:49:01 -0000

>Ben,
>
>I am sure that I am not the only person that finds that comment a little bit
>patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams out there that want
>pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 people for 2 teams), but we
>are still going to the tournaments. It was briefly suggested that we drop
>out of one, but that was immediately dismissed because it would be a crap
>thing to do to the organisers. There are times when, despite having 20-30
>active club members, other issues (Injury, work, and just other life
>commitments) take hold, and our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am
>sure this has happened to other teams, and that is why they are keen to get
>pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament altogether. One of the great
>things about Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much
>as possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they just
>don't feel like it.
>
>I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be an e-mail entirely
>be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just want the 5 biggest/best
>clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and forget about the rest of
>the other competitors? Because obviously 'us people' are apparently spoiling
>the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in favour of the
>registration/rostering process, but I think you could have phrased your
>point a little bit better.
>
>*Looking forward to running all weekend in an iron-man team*
>
>Andrew Godber
>Slipdisc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
>Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke
>Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required
>
>
>
>
>...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've registered
>and paid any dues.
>
>Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't even get a team
>together?
>
>Ben 
>UK Ultimate 
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Martin Burke" <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk>
>
>>We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember >they won't
>let you play for someone else at the nationals if 
>>we don't qualify.
>
>
>

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oh dear, the freedom inhibitors have been set to 'kill' again. :-)

In the defence of Mr Men, although ordinairily I would see no reason to =
stand up for the chumps that they are(and freely admit!), they were =
unavoidably left short after receiving commitments to play. One of the =
offending players is my bro so I'd thank you all to wind you necks in, =
anyone who knows Rich would recognise that he is a committed player and =
you should not be so quick to judge without complete knowledge of the =
circumstances.

Mr Men have tried to fill the void by searching for players to step in =
but because of the rostering rules found luring players from other teams =
difficult. Instead of dropping from the Tournament and leaving the TD =
with another headache they have resorted to the last measure of =
broadcasting  a request for players. Can anyone else say 'rock and a =
hard place?'

I take this sport as seriously as the next player and work really hard =
to improve my game but I would hate this sport to lose it's sense of =
perspective just because we want to be 'approved of'. It's just a game. =
Full stop. Period.

Yup we have to have rules that are adhered to. Mr Men weren't planning =
on flouting any rules and certainly didn't want to make anyone's life =
more difficult. Accept they mean well and keep your 'pointy' views to =
yourself.

C ya at the Regional Schmindoors Not-so-Open Toy Tossing Championship.=20

Mr Angry=20
Del Smart

P.S. Ben, you do a marvellous job. You are allowed to get annoyed, you =
are allowed to complain, you are allowed to call me a Tosser.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>oh dear, the freedom inhibitors have =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the defence of Mr Men, although =
ordinairily I=20
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admit!),=20
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searching for=20
players to step in but because of the rostering rules found luring =
players from=20
other teams difficult. Instead of dropping from the Tournament and =
leaving the=20
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broadcasting&nbsp; a request for players. Can anyone else say 'rock and =
a hard=20
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next player=20
and work really hard to improve my game but I would hate this sport to =
lose it's=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yup we have to have rules that are =
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Schmindoors&nbsp;Not-so-Open=20
Toy Tossing Championship. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mr Angry </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><EM>Del Smart</EM></FONT></DIV>
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So far as touting for pickups on BD on a Friday is concerned - surely what 
matters is not whether people do it but why.

If a well-organised team has suffered last minute problems and is trying to 
get extra players then they should be supported and applauded for making an 
effort to fulfill their tournament commitment.

On the other hand if a bunch of yahoos didn't give it any serious thought 
until Friday lunchtime and hope the rest of us can bail them out then that 
is not ok.

I have no idea what the score is with Mr Men and am not commenting on their 
situation.

Si B

PS Sorry that this isn't funny - I will try harder in future...  though I do 
think the low quality of baiting from the outdoor-shmoutdoor brigade is 
really to blame.  They have obviously gone so long without a decent game of 
ultimate that they have gone off the boil.  ;-)


>From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
>Reply-To: <ben@ravilious.net>
>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>, Andrew Godber  <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
>Subject: RE: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required
>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:52:16 +0000
>
>
>Andrew and others,
>
>To be blunt with you, no I don't think it was either patronising or 
>degrading especially as the team in question are all experienced players 
>who have been playing for years.
>
>Every year we get something kicking off because one team or another fields 
>ineligible players or otherwise tries to wing it. The fall-out is usually 
>blame on the organisation for not explaining or communicating something. 
>This year not only are we trying to run things more professionally but 
>there is players hard cash involved - therefore the rules have to be 
>applied.
>
>Because this has been somewhat hurried we have said we are willing to make 
>concessions - but ONLY if teams let us know their problems. If a team 
>really has a genuine problem (e.g. someone is badly hurt or they all go 
>down with the 'flu) then of course we can be flexible - just let us know. 
>Touting for pick-ups for Nationals on Britdisc after the roster deadline 
>does not count as 'letting us know' in my book.
>
>I repeat what I said earlier in the week, if you want to play in laid back 
>events where noone really minds who you play for then go check out the 
>calendar - there is such a great choice nowadays. The nationals however is 
>the one and only time when this is not acceptable because teams expect a 
>well run and properly policed championship.
>
>And for the record I too have work and life commitments (no really!) which 
>is why you must forgive me if I get just a *little* annoyed by teams that 
>just don't give a damn at events which we've worked hard to improve.
>
>Enjoy the weekend wherever you are and don't feed the Space Monkeys.
>
>Ben
>
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: Andrew Godber <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:49:01 -0000
>
> >Ben,
> >
> >I am sure that I am not the only person that finds that comment a little 
>bit
> >patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams out there that want
> >pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 people for 2 teams), but 
>we
> >are still going to the tournaments. It was briefly suggested that we drop
> >out of one, but that was immediately dismissed because it would be a crap
> >thing to do to the organisers. There are times when, despite having 20-30
> >active club members, other issues (Injury, work, and just other life
> >commitments) take hold, and our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am
> >sure this has happened to other teams, and that is why they are keen to 
>get
> >pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament altogether. One of the great
> >things about Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as 
>much
> >as possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they 
>just
> >don't feel like it.
> >
> >I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be an e-mail entirely
> >be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just want the 5 
>biggest/best
> >clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and forget about the rest of
> >the other competitors? Because obviously 'us people' are apparently 
>spoiling
> >the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in favour of the
> >registration/rostering process, but I think you could have phrased your
> >point a little bit better.
> >
> >*Looking forward to running all weekend in an iron-man team*
> >
> >Andrew Godber
> >Slipdisc
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
> >Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42
> >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke
> >Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've registered
> >and paid any dues.
> >
> >Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't even get a 
>team
> >together?
> >
> >Ben
> >UK Ultimate
> >
> >
> >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >From: "Martin Burke" <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk>
> >
> >>We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember >they 
>won't
> >let you play for someone else at the nationals if
> >>we don't qualify.
> >
> >
> >




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Hello all,

	My name is Martin, I'm a student from the US and will be in London
between March 3rd and March 9/11 (I'm not sure yet).  I was looking to
find some pick up to  play in during the week.  I'll be staying near Hyde
park but can  travelhowever far to find some good disc.  I usually play
outdoor but I  hear this time of year there's a lot of indoor going on in
London, and  I've never played indoor before, so that would be cool.
Anyway, if someone could tell me what's going on where I would appreciate
it.  Thanks.

Martin Aguilera


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Polite reminder to those who have signed up to UK Ultimate, but not yet
paid up, you need to 
Make your cheque payable to UK Ultimate 
Put your name & Registration No. on the back
& Send it (unless you're doing an electronic transfer) to: 
 
UK Ultimate Administrator
44 Swinegate
Grantham 
Lincolnshire
NG31 6RL
 
NB: You will need to have paid up by 15 March if you are playing at
Indoor Regionals &/or Indoor Nationals.
 
Thanks to the following, for sending membership cheques promptly:
 
Reg.No     Name
F380         ALLEN, PAUL
F348         Batchelor, Adam 
F431         Ben-Nathan, Charles 
S655         BIRD, MATTHEW
F667         Boot, Andrew (andy)
F83           Bowles, Guy 
S265         Cave, Tom 
S129         Crofts, Dave (Stretch)
F447         Davis, Sarah (Sheep)
F309         decicco, jaison
F36           Dowse, Tim
F235         Dray, Ally
S448         Forsdike, Alex
F133         GARRETT, JOHN 
F524         Greenland, Kate
S117         Greensted, Andy
F73           Harding, Alan 
F322         harras, adam
S118         Heger, Andreas
F259         Hewitson, James 
F94           Hewitson, Nadya
S650         Hodges, Anthony 
F149         Holden, Paul
S230         Horner, Matthew
S65          Hughes, Finn
S201         Humphrey, Robin
F105         Hutchinson, Chris 
S14          Hutton, Tony
F62           Jackson, Jeff
S92          Kett, Paul
S56          Lucas, Robert George 
F53           Mac Donald, Peter
F155         Marsh, Chris (Elf)
F19           Mitchell, Ben (Hoooves)
F426         Moore, Catherine
F32           Neilson, Dave (Sammy)
F321         Noble, Lee 
S37          Palmer, Jonathan 
F730         Parekh, Anand (Anu)
F391         Parker, William (Will)
S582         Povey, David (Silver)
F324         Pugh, Katy
F256         purdie, john (purdisc)
F501         Purves, Jenni 
S328         Rathbone, Andrew 
F41           Riggs, Sally
S161         Rodgers, James
S577         Russell, Edward (Ed)
F116         Schell, Michael 
F315         Sentman, Melissa
S46          Shellswell, Catharine 
S206         Shelmerdine, Richard 
F25           Shipley, Rik
F143         Silcock, Ben (not F134)
F210         Standring, Andrew
F511         Stebbing, Ian
F509         Stebbing, Nancy
F211         Taylor, Nolan 
F70           Taylor, Ruth
F181         Webber, Samuel 
F192         Woods, Matt 
 
Membership cards are to be printed shortly & will hopefully be available
by mid-March. 
 
NJ
UK Ultimate Administrator
 
 

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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Polite reminder to those who have signed up to UK Ultimate, =
but
not yet paid up, you need to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Make your <span class=3DSpellE>cheque</span> payable to UK =
Ultimate <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Put your name &amp; Registration No. on the =
back<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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color:black'>&amp; Send it (unless you&#8217;re doing an electronic =
transfer)
to: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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tab-stops:46.85pt'><st1:country-region><st1:place><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
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</st1:place></st1:country-region><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Ultimate Administrator<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>44 <span =
class=3DSpellE>Swinegate</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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tab-stops:46.85pt'><st1:City><st1:place><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
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  =
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an></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
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color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>NG31 =
6RL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>NB: You will need to have paid up by 15 March if you are =
playing
at Indoor <span class=3DSpellE>Regionals</span> &amp;/or Indoor =
Nationals.</span></font><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Thanks to the following, for sending membership <span
class=3DSpellE>cheques</span> promptly:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color:black'><span style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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color:black'>F380<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>ALLEN,
PAUL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F348<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Batchelor,
Adam <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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; </span>Ben-Nathan,
Charles <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S655<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>BIRD,
MATTHEW<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F667<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Boot,
Andrew (<span class=3DSpellE>andy</span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F83<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Bowles,
Guy <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S265<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Cave,
Tom <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S129<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Crofts,
Dave (Stretch)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F447<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Davis,
Sarah (Sheep)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F309<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>decicco</span>, <span =
class=3DSpellE>jaison</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F36<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Dowse,
Tim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F235<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Dray,
Ally<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S448<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Forsdike</span>, Alex<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F133<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>GARRETT,
JOHN <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F524<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span></span></font><st1:place><font
 size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
 color:black'>Greenland</span></font></st1:place><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>, =
Kate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S117<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Greensted</span>, Andy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F73<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Harding,
Alan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F322<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>harras</span>, <span =
class=3DSpellE>adam</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S118<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Heger</span>, Andreas<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F259<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Hewitson</span>, James <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F94<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Hewitson</span>, <span =
class=3DSpellE>Nadya</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S650<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Hodges,
Anthony <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F149<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Holden,
Paul<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S230<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Horner,
Matthew<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S65<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; </span>Hughes,
Finn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S201<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Humphrey,
Robin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F105<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span></span></font><font
size=3D1 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Hutchinson, Chris <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S14<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; </span>Hutton,
Tony<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F62<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Jackson,
Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S92<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Kett</span>, Paul<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S56<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; </span>Lucas,
Robert George <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F53<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Mac
Donald, Peter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F155<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Marsh,
Chris (Elf)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F19<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Mitchell,
Ben (<span class=3DSpellE>Hoooves</span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F426<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Moore,
Catherine<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F32<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Neilson,
Dave (Sammy)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F321<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Noble,
Lee <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S37<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; </span>Palmer,
Jonathan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F730<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Parekh</span>, <span class=3DSpellE>Anand</span> (<span
class=3DSpellE>Anu</span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F391<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Parker,
William (Will)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S582<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Povey</span>, David (Silver)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F324<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Pugh,
Katy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F256<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>purdie</span>, john (<span =
class=3DSpellE>purdisc</span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F501<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Purves</span>, <span class=3DSpellE>Jenni</span> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S328<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Rathbone</span>, Andrew <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F41<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Riggs,
Sally<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S161<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Rodgers,
James<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S577<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Russell,
Edward (Ed)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F116<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Schell,
Michael <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F315<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Sentman</span>, Melissa<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S46<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Shellswell</span>, Catharine =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>S206<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Shelmerdine</span>, Richard <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F25<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Shipley,
<span class=3DSpellE>Rik</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F143<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Silcock</span>, Ben (not =
F134)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F210<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Standring</span>, Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F511<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Stebbing</span>, Ian<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F509<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span><span
class=3DSpellE>Stebbing</span>, Nancy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-.65pt;tab-stops:47.35pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F211<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Taylor,
Nolan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F70<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Taylor,
Ruth<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F181<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Webber,
Samuel <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>F192<span =
style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; </span>Woods,
Matt <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'margin-left:-1.15pt;tab-stops:46.85pt'><font size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Membership cards are to be printed shortly &amp; will =
hopefully be
available by mid-March. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Ex GB,  ex Tenants/Violently Happy etc. Have I spelt his name correctly? If 
anyone has a contact address/email for John I would be very grateful.
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Paul Marfleet
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Ex GB, &nbsp;ex Tenants/Violently Happy etc. Have I spelt his name correctly? If anyone has a contact address/email for John I would be very grateful.
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From: "toby green" <tobygreen@attglobal.net>
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Since Frostbreaker ten days ago, some of you have been kind enough to ask
after my father. The sad news is that he passed away last night, quietly and
simply in his own bed, surrounded by his four sons. He had bounced back
after the stroke, regaining all his faculties and sparkle. He even spent
three hectic days teasing his sister (as usual) who came to stay last week.
However, the pneumonia which he contracted after the stroke was quietly
catching up on him. He always referred to pneumonia as 'Old Man's Friend'
and clearly understood where he was going. He suffered another small stroke
on Thursday which, together with the pneumonia, allowed him to finish his
journey to my mother's side in heaven.

He was delighted, as ever, hosting the golf - he and my mother so enjoyed
having you all here and were always so impressed at how you all respected
the farm. You all earned a place in their hearts.

For those who want to say goodbye, there will be a memorial service at
Beaminster church on Tuesday, March 5th at 2.30pm. Their ashes will be
scattered on the Knoll.

Toby


Toby Green
46 rue de Dunkerque
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France

Tel: +33 1 40 16 14 11
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Ben,

A quick explanation, please - what do the "F" "S" and "E" categories
mean?

I think I've figured  "F"ull and "S"tudent, but "E"... ?

Cheers
Wayne
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Right, where do I start?

First of all I would like to say that obviously I misread the point of Ben's
first e-mail, not realising that it was directed to Mr Men. If I had
realised this, then I would not have jumped at the chance to respond in the
fashion I did. However, I did think that your e-mail needed a little bit of
interpretation. (and obviously I got it wrong) I would like to apologise if
anyone thought I was suggesting that people could pick-up anyone for the
Regionals/Nationals, as I would not commend this.

Secondly, I whole-heartedly agree with everyone who has pointed out what a
excellent job Ben et al have done in bringing UKU up a level, and making the
main events for the Ultimate year a bit more organised and, dare I say it,
professional. I thoroughly agree with all of the
rostering/registration/membership concepts, and this will help to get all
teams' attitudes right.

Lastly, before I go on too long, I would like to quickly thank Sam and all
at the Nottingham Indoors this weekend for a fabulous tournament, which we
all really enjoyed. I hope other teams felt the same, and I look forward to
seeing a lot of you at the Birmingham Beginners Tournament, or the Great
Barr Crawl over the next 2 weeks.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
Sent: 22 February 2002 17:52
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Andrew Godber
Subject: RE: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required



Andrew and others,

To be blunt with you, no I don't think it was either patronising or
degrading especially as the team in question are all experienced players who
have been playing for years.

Every year we get something kicking off because one team or another fields
ineligible players or otherwise tries to wing it. The fall-out is usually
blame on the organisation for not explaining or communicating something.
This year not only are we trying to run things more professionally but there
is players hard cash involved - therefore the rules have to be applied. 

Because this has been somewhat hurried we have said we are willing to make
concessions - but ONLY if teams let us know their problems. If a team really
has a genuine problem (e.g. someone is badly hurt or they all go down with
the 'flu) then of course we can be flexible - just let us know. Touting for
pick-ups for Nationals on Britdisc after the roster deadline does not count
as 'letting us know' in my book.

I repeat what I said earlier in the week, if you want to play in laid back
events where noone really minds who you play for then go check out the
calendar - there is such a great choice nowadays. The nationals however is
the one and only time when this is not acceptable because teams expect a
well run and properly policed championship.

And for the record I too have work and life commitments (no really!) which
is why you must forgive me if I get just a *little* annoyed by teams that
just don't give a damn at events which we've worked hard to improve.

Enjoy the weekend wherever you are and don't feed the Space Monkeys.

Ben 



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Andrew Godber <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:49:01 -0000

>Ben,
>
>I am sure that I am not the only person that finds that comment a little
bit
>patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams out there that want
>pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 people for 2 teams), but
we
>are still going to the tournaments. It was briefly suggested that we drop
>out of one, but that was immediately dismissed because it would be a crap
>thing to do to the organisers. There are times when, despite having 20-30
>active club members, other issues (Injury, work, and just other life
>commitments) take hold, and our squads are reduced for tournaments. I am
>sure this has happened to other teams, and that is why they are keen to get
>pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament altogether. One of the great
>things about Ultimate is the way that it makes people want to play as much
>as possible, and I am sure that people are not pulling out because they
just
>don't feel like it.
>
>I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant to be an e-mail entirely
>be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you just want the 5
biggest/best
>clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and forget about the rest of
>the other competitors? Because obviously 'us people' are apparently
spoiling
>the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in favour of the
>registration/rostering process, but I think you could have phrased your
>point a little bit better.
>
>*Looking forward to running all weekend in an iron-man team*
>
>Andrew Godber
>Slipdisc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
>Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin Burke
>Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups required
>
>
>
>
>...and 'they' won't let you play in another event until you've registered
>and paid any dues.
>
>Why do you people bother entering the nationals if you can't even get a
team
>together?
>
>Ben 
>UK Ultimate 
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Martin Burke" <martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk>
>
>>We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if need be, but remember >they won't
>let you play for someone else at the nationals if 
>>we don't qualify.
>
>
>

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Right, where do I start?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>First of all I would like to say that obviously I =
misread the point of Ben's first e-mail, not realising that it was =
directed to Mr Men. If I had realised this, then I would not have =
jumped at the chance to respond in the fashion I did. However, I did =
think that your e-mail needed a little bit of interpretation. (and =
obviously I got it wrong) I would like to apologise if anyone thought I =
was suggesting that people could pick-up anyone for the =
Regionals/Nationals, as I would not commend this.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Secondly, I whole-heartedly agree with everyone who =
has pointed out what a excellent job Ben et al have done in bringing =
UKU up a level, and making the main events for the Ultimate year a bit =
more organised and, dare I say it, professional. I thoroughly agree =
with all of the rostering/registration/membership concepts, and this =
will help to get all teams' attitudes right.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Lastly, before I go on too long, I would like to =
quickly thank Sam and all at the Nottingham Indoors this weekend for a =
fabulous tournament, which we all really enjoyed. I hope other teams =
felt the same, and I look forward to seeing a lot of you at the =
Birmingham Beginners Tournament, or the Great Barr Crawl over the next =
2 weeks.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andy</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Ben Ravilious [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:ben@ravilious.net">mailto:ben@ravilious.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 22 February 2002 17:52</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Andrew Godber</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups =
required</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andrew and others,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>To be blunt with you, no I don't think it was either =
patronising or degrading especially as the team in question are all =
experienced players who have been playing for years.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Every year we get something kicking off because one =
team or another fields ineligible players or otherwise tries to wing =
it. The fall-out is usually blame on the organisation for not =
explaining or communicating something. This year not only are we trying =
to run things more professionally but there is players hard cash =
involved - therefore the rules have to be applied. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Because this has been somewhat hurried we have said =
we are willing to make concessions - but ONLY if teams let us know =
their problems. If a team really has a genuine problem (e.g. someone is =
badly hurt or they all go down with the 'flu) then of course we can be =
flexible - just let us know. Touting for pick-ups for Nationals on =
Britdisc after the roster deadline does not count as 'letting us know' =
in my book.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I repeat what I said earlier in the week, if you want =
to play in laid back events where noone really minds who you play for =
then go check out the calendar - there is such a great choice nowadays. =
The nationals however is the one and only time when this is not =
acceptable because teams expect a well run and properly policed =
championship.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>And for the record I too have work and life =
commitments (no really!) which is why you must forgive me if I get just =
a *little* annoyed by teams that just don't give a damn at events which =
we've worked hard to improve.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Enjoy the weekend wherever you are and don't feed the =
Space Monkeys.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ben </FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>---------- Original Message =
----------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Andrew Godber =
&lt;Andrew.Godber@arup.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:49:01 -0000</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Ben,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;I am sure that I am not the only person that =
finds that comment a little bit</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;patronising and degrading for the frisbee teams =
out there that want</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;pick-ups. We are also struggling for numbers (10 =
people for 2 teams), but we</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;are still going to the tournaments. It was =
briefly suggested that we drop</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;out of one, but that was immediately dismissed =
because it would be a crap</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;thing to do to the organisers. There are times =
when, despite having 20-30</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;active club members, other issues (Injury, work, =
and just other life</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;commitments) take hold, and our squads are =
reduced for tournaments. I am</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;sure this has happened to other teams, and that =
is why they are keen to get</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;pick-ups, and avoid missing the tournament =
altogether. One of the great</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;things about Ultimate is the way that it makes =
people want to play as much</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;as possible, and I am sure that people are not =
pulling out because they just</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;don't feel like it.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;I am sorry to go on and on. This was not meant =
to be an e-mail entirely</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;be-moaning our situation, but to ask you if you =
just want the 5 biggest/best</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;clubs to turn up to each regional qualifier, and =
forget about the rest of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;the other competitors? Because obviously 'us =
people' are apparently spoiling</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;the sport for the rest of you. I am entirely in =
favour of the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;registration/rostering process, but I think you =
could have phrased your</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;point a little bit better.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;*Looking forward to running all weekend in an =
iron-man team*</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Andrew Godber</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Slipdisc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;From: Ben Ravilious [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:ben@ravilious.net">mailto:ben@ravilious.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Sent: 22 February 2002 16:42</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Martin =
Burke</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Subject: Re: Weston-Super-Mare Pickups =
required</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;...and 'they' won't let you play in another =
event until you've registered</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;and paid any dues.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Why do you people bother entering the nationals =
if you can't even get a team</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;together?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Ben </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;UK Ultimate </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;---------- Original Message =
----------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;From: &quot;Martin Burke&quot; =
&lt;martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;We'll sort the rostering out tomorrow if =
need be, but remember &gt;they won't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;let you play for someone else at the nationals =
if </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;we don't qualify.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
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Hi Bristidisc,

Many thanks to Si Weeks for organising the SW indoor qualifiers last 
weekend. It was a great venue with a superb floor and organised in such a 
way that everyone got loads of pitch time.

As can be expected the quality of the Ultimate at the tournament was great 
however during the weekend an incident occurred during one of my pool games 
which I don't believe should be allowed to happen.

In brief, the team we were playing, known for being a good team who play 
well together and are normally very good spirited, had been drinking for 
most of the afternoon. Now normally I would have no problem with this 
whatsoever however in this particular case people's judgement had been 
seriously affected.

Playing against them was dangerous for both teams with people falling over 
each other and into walls and being heavily body checked whilst being 
marked. The scoreline began to reflect this with no points being scored by 
the drunk team. Frustration set in and this led to two incidences where 
drunk team members had to be restrained from starting fights for foul calls 
made by my team. The calls may or may not have been correct but there was no 
SOTG or even rational discussion of the call. I am no 'party pooper' but 
people becoming 'angry drunks' is in no way fun. This is not the sort of 
ultimate I came along to play.

The final score line was 26-0 and the game was both a waste of time and in 
very bad spirit. In a tournament which involves important games for 
qualification to the nationals this is not the sort of behaviour I expect. I 
think that this incident should be made an example of and should not happen 
again. I'm sure this next comment will provoke response but I think that the 
penalty for such behaviour in the future should be the banning of teams from 
certain tournaments.

Does anybody have any other comments?

James.

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Wayne and others,

You are correct about the F and S categories.

The E ones are people who have selected the free year of eligibility. 

Whilst we're on the subject, we have already found a number of people who have chosen the E option but have been previously on rosters for Indoors/Tour. We will be chasing these people for an explanation (and payment where required) shortly. 

I'm sure many of these are just people making a mistake or having been incorrectly rostered in previous years. We ask people to be honest about whether they've played in these events in the past.

The Free year of Eligibilty is intended to give new players a chance to try out the official events for free.

This sort of issue is the main reason why accurate rostering is now much more important.

Cheers

Ben


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From: Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
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>Ben,
>
>A quick explanation, please - what do the "F" "S" and "E" categories
>mean?
>
>I think I've figured  "F"ull and "S"tudent, but "E"... ?
>
>Cheers
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From: "Emily J. Lyons" <ejlyons@hotmail.com>
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Hey Britdisc,

Just wondering if anyone is short of players for the Clapham winter league 
final this coming Saturday as I am going to be there and would like to play. 
  Drop me a line.

Cheers,

Emily
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Following the announcement that the Women's events will be held alongside the 
open Tour events, I was just wondering if there were any more women out there 

decision.

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at last weekend's scottish open qualifiers there was a
few items left behind at the end which i reckon people
will want to reclaim, so just let me know if u think
that they belong to you and i'll sort out getting them
back to you asap, unless i think that they are quite
nice and i decide to keep them.

a long sleeve black top from gap.
a white t-shirt with a kinda rusty coloured nike
'swoosh' on the left breast.

if there is anything else that anyone has lost at the
weekent then let me know and i'll see if someone
picked it up in the clean up afterwards.

cheers all for a really fun tourney, and well done to
all the teams who took part.

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Can anybody give me a lift from winter league (on clapham) to birmingham or
anywhere close?

Petrol money obvoiusly provided.

Cheers

Lewis


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http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tourny_home.cgi?dir=indoornationals 
Teams qualified - Top 5 from each region in England and top four from the
Scottish region.
You can find details re Indoor nationals on the above site. The qualified
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Dear all,

I understand from people I spoke to this weekend that I have received
quite a flaming on the Student email list last week, over the music at
Loughborough.

The criticism stemmed from a error made by a player who had not heard a
pick call because of the volume of the music, which was promptly turned
down. 
I'd like to apologise to the player in question and to all other players
who felt their play was infringed by the music. I did not wish to be a
nuisance and the position of the speakers made it difficult to gauge the
volume on the pitch.

However, I'd also like to thank all the people who came up to me
afterwards to comment on the choice of tunes and how it set the tone for
a chilled out tournament. I was particularly pleased with the impact the
music had on the finals where it was only played between points. I felt
this added to the glory of scoring and heighten the tension as the game
dropped into silence as the pull went up. Again I'd like to thank
people, both players and in the audience, who praised the music. 

I appreciate the need for a balance between creating an atmosphere and
interfering with play and I'm sorry that on this occasion the line was
crossed. I look forward to future tournaments where the music is very
much part of the set up, and strongly believe that the day music is not
allowed at tournaments would be a very sad one indeed.

All feed back is, of course, welcome and encouraged.

Tom Styles

Lets go in!
tom@block-stack.co.uk
www.block-stack.co.uk
Block Stack & Two Smoking Hammers (Nottingham Plate Winners)(T-shirts
now available)

PS Could someone please forward this to the student ultimate email list
on my behalf.

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I was not at Loughborough, but for what it's worth I agree with Tom.  Music
(at the right times) during games is a definite positive for the game of
Ultimate.  It makes a beutiful game even better to watch and play.  Ice
Hockey and Basketball have been doing since the year dot.

It's a shame about what happened at Loughborough but it's NOT a reason to
stop the music.  Just an opportunity to learn.  Keep spinning the tunes
Tommy!

PS:

>> Lets go in!

Keep flogging the catch-phrases......................alive!  ;)

mat
(Block-Stack)


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Styles [mailto:tstyles@protocol-systems.co.uk]
>> Sent: 25 February 2002 12:31
>> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>> Subject: Music at tournaments
>> 
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I understand from people I spoke to this weekend that I have received
>> quite a flaming on the Student email list last week, over 
>> the music at
>> Loughborough.
>> 
>> The criticism stemmed from a error made by a player who had 
>> not heard a
>> pick call because of the volume of the music, which was 
>> promptly turned
>> down. 
>> I'd like to apologise to the player in question and to all 
>> other players
>> who felt their play was infringed by the music. I did not 
>> wish to be a
>> nuisance and the position of the speakers made it difficult 
>> to gauge the
>> volume on the pitch.
>> 
>> However, I'd also like to thank all the people who came up to me
>> afterwards to comment on the choice of tunes and how it set 
>> the tone for
>> a chilled out tournament. I was particularly pleased with 
>> the impact the
>> music had on the finals where it was only played between 
>> points. I felt
>> this added to the glory of scoring and heighten the tension 
>> as the game
>> dropped into silence as the pull went up. Again I'd like to thank
>> people, both players and in the audience, who praised the music. 
>> 
>> I appreciate the need for a balance between creating an 
>> atmosphere and
>> interfering with play and I'm sorry that on this occasion 
>> the line was
>> crossed. I look forward to future tournaments where the music is very
>> much part of the set up, and strongly believe that the day 
>> music is not
>> allowed at tournaments would be a very sad one indeed.
>> 
>> All feed back is, of course, welcome and encouraged.
>> 
>> Tom Styles
>> 
>> Lets go in!
>> tom@block-stack.co.uk
>> www.block-stack.co.uk
>> Block Stack & Two Smoking Hammers (Nottingham Plate Winners)(T-shirts
>> now available)
>> 
>> PS Could someone please forward this to the student ultimate 
>> email list
>> on my behalf.
>> 


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Hello again,

 Forgot to add that Cormac Cosgrove  won MVP in the final. Nice 
work.

 Sorry mate,

 Sam 

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Hello

 Thanks to everybody who turned up, played well, and helped the 
tourney run as smoothly as could be managed. Thanks also to 
Mud Culture 1 for an excellent final.

 The standings were as follows:-

12-Stirling Blaze
11-Shooting Stars 1
10-Shooting Stars 2(Wendys Lost Boys)
9-Flatball Project(Plate winners)
8-Stirling Blaze 2
7-Mud Culture 2
6-STD 2
5-Ro-Sham-Bo
-----------------------------Qualified for nationals below line
4-Sneeekys
3-Positive Mojo
2-Mud Culture 1
1- STD 1(Cup winners)

 SOTG- Positive Mojo
 Party award- Positive Mojo

 Three pint challange-Co-Ed- Darren + Lisa(Stirling Blaze)- 19.73 s
     Womens- Gillian + Lisa(Stirling Blaze)- 25.91s
  Overall winners-Dave + Dave(Positive Mojo)- 17.15s

 Thanks again,

 Sam Lord
(STD 1)

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Hi Britdisc,

Just a reminder that the Bongos Disc Sports Club are hosting a disc sports 
weekend this coming weekend in Aylesbury, Bucks  (March 2/3).

- disc golf (12 basket course)
- goaltimate (1 pitch)
- double disc court (7 pitches)

Participants can choose to play on Saturday or Sunday or both days.

Please let the event committee know of your intention to attend in advance. 
Anyone turning up on the day unannounced may be disappointed.

All event info can be found at www.discgolf.co.uk/doubles or you can phone 
me for details.

Good luck to all those involved in the Winter League Finals on Saturday - 
if anyone has the energy and motivation to play some more disc on Sunday, 
Aylesbury is only 40 miles North west of London and you'll be made very 
welcome.

See ya

Richard
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020 8575 1564


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From: Andrew Godber <Andrew.Godber@arup.com> 
Subject: RE: Great Barr Crawl - Update
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:46:56 -0000

	Just so everyone realises, I am unable to provide accommodation
for
the Great Barr Crawl tournament. I did send a mail to all the
participants a
while ago, but I would like to make sure that I have everyone's
'e-mail
attention'. If anyone needs advice on getting a place to stay, then
give me
a shout, otherwise I will assume that everyone has found somewhere, or
is
travelling back on the Saturday night.

	Please don't leave it until the last minute to sort this out, as
it
could make it all a frustrating weekend.

	Andy Godber
	Slipdisc

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TOUR ONE BRISTOL13th & 14th April 2002 
Dear All 

You are invited to Bristol Tour One, which will be held at Clifton College Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the 13th and 14th of April. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 26th of March. 

ENTRY FEE - £145 per team 

A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of £25 is available for student teams i.e. £120.

A separate Women’s Tour will run alongside the Open Tour and any women’s teams wishing to enter will be charged £80. 

CAMPING/B&B – On site camping available (free of charge) with 24hr toilet facilities open to all. Changing rooms with hot showers will be readily accessible. A list of local B&B / Guest Houses available on request.

The camp site will be accessible from Friday evening, and the sports ground are keeping their bar open until around 2300hrs for anyone wishing to have a few beers before bed.

GRUB/PARTY - A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff is available all day Saturday and Sunday as well as Saturday evening, followed by a party and a bar with a late licence, hopefully of 1am (currently applied for) 

DIRECTIONS FOR THE SPORTS GROUND - From North, South, East or West: M5 – exit at Jct 19. Follow A369 towards Bristol for approximately 4 miles on a windy road through small villages until you see a narrow turning on the right hand side signed posted for Clifton Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep up on you – if you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! – this does not include the pedestrian crossing lights at the George Inn at Abbots Leigh Village). 

CAMPSITE - Instead of turning into the sports ground you continue up to the traffic lights and turn right. 350 yards on the right hand side you will see a gate. This is the entrance to the camping area. Please pitch your tents in the bottom right hand side of the field.

If you need any more information please contact me.
Matt & Adam  Mathew Edwards4 Wick CrescentBrislingtonBristol BS4 4HL0781 138 2084
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



 

I ENCLOSE MY CHEQUE FOR £…………………………………
PLEASE MAKE ALL CHEQUES PAYABLE TO MATHEW EDWARDS AND RETURN TO ABOVE ADDRESS
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TEAM:…………………………………………………………………………………

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<H1 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 18.0pt">TOUR ONE BRISTOL</SPAN></H1>
<H1 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 18.0pt"></SPAN><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 18.0pt">13<SUP>th</SUP> &amp; 14th April 2002</SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></H1>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Dear All</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">You are invited to Bristol Tour One, which will be held at Clifton College Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the 13<SUP>th</SUP> and 14<SUP>th</SUP> of April. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 26<SUP>th</SUP> of March.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">ENTRY FEE</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> - £145 per team </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of £25 is available for student teams i.e. £120.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">A separate Women’s Tour will run alongside the Open Tour and any women’s teams wishing to enter will be charged £80.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">CAMPING/B&amp;B</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> – On site camping available (free of charge) with 24hr toilet facilities open to all. Changing rooms with hot showers will be readily accessible. A list of local B&amp;B / Guest Houses available on request.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">The camp site will be accessible from Friday evening, and the sports ground are keeping their bar open until around 2300hrs for anyone wishing to have a few beers before bed.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">GRUB/PARTY</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> - A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff is available all day Saturday and Sunday as well as Saturday evening, followed by a party and a bar with a late licence, hopefully of 1am (currently applied for)</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">DIRECTIONS</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> <B>FOR THE SPORTS GROUND </B>- From North, South, East or West: M5 – exit at Jct 19. Follow A369 towards Bristol for approximately 4 miles on a windy road through small villages until you see a narrow turning on the right hand side signed posted for Clifton Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep up on you – if you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! – this does not include the pedestrian crossing lights at the George Inn at Abbots Leigh Village).</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"> <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">CAMPSITE </SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">-<B> </B></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Instead of turning into the sports ground you continue up to the traffic lights and turn right. 350 yards on the right hand side you will see a gate. This is the entrance to the camping area. Please pitch your tents in the bottom right hand side of the field.</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN><o:p>If you need any more information please contact me.</o:p></SPAN></P>
<H4 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Matt &amp; Adam<o:p></o:p></SPAN></H4>
<H4 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp; </H4>
<H4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=2>Mathew Edwards</FONT></SPAN></H4>
<H4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=2>4 Wick Crescent</FONT></SPAN></H4>
<H4><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=2>Brislington</FONT></SPAN></H4>
<H4 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm"><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Bristol BS4 4HL</SPAN></FONT></H4>
<H4 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm"><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">0781 138 2084</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></H4>
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<P></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">I ENCLOSE MY CHEQUE FOR £…………………………………</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 18.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: auto 0cm"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">PLEASE MAKE ALL CHEQUES PAYABLE TO MATHEW EDWARDS AND RETURN TO ABOVE ADDRESS</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 13.5pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></H3>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">NAME:…………………………………………………………………………………</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">ADDRESS:……………………………………………………………………………</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">……………………………………………………………………………………………………………….…………………………………………..…………………………………………… POSTCODE:………………………….……</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">TEL:……………………………………………MOBILE:……………………………<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">E-MAIL ADDRESS: …………………………………………………………………... <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<H4 style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">DIVISION :<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>OPEN / WOMEN<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></H4>
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From: "Felix" <shark@nildram.co.uk>
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Subject: (Of no interest unless you recorded the Brixton tourney)
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Yo, I saw a couple of people with video cameras at Brixton regionals this
weekend and was wondering if I could possibly grab a copy of the tape for a
fiver (or however much these things are) sometime?  It was a good tourney;
cheers to organisers and all involved.

Felchers (Mohawks)


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OK - apologies for the last email not really having a point. I assure you
that I wrote quite a bit more than what came through to Britdisc, my email
system appears to have messed it up and completely deleted the important
parts!

Here is what I was trying to ask:

Following the announcement that the Women's events will be held alongside
the open Tour events, I was just wondering if there were any more women out
there feeling a little disgruntled at having to choose between playing Open
and Women's ultimate.

I personally would like to be able to play both and am finding the decision
a very hard one to make, ideally I would prefer not to have to make it at
all. Do any other women out there feel the same?

Ruth
Red


----- Original Message -----
From: Ruth Taylor <ruth11@totalise.co.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 25 February 2002 11:52
Subject: The Open Tour and Women's ultimate


> Following the announcement that the Women's events will be held alongside
the
> open Tour events, I was just wondering if there were any more women out
there
>
> decision.
>

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Fluid Druids have now received an invitation by post.

The tournament seems open to all. It's happening May, Thurs 09 - Sun 12

There doesn't appear to be a website.
You could try mailing airbreak@wxs.nl for more info.

Wayne


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Forwarded with Ben's permission...

----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
To: Ruth Taylor <ruth11@totalise.co.uk>
Sent: 25 February 2002 22:04
Subject: Re: Fw: The Open Tour and Women's ultimate


> Ruth,
>
> I have a simular dis-quiet at the moment.  I just played
> student ultimate in loughbour a couple of weekends ago.
> This saw 3 divisions and a womens division and it was
> remarkable how many fewer women there where in teh open
> student teams.  I've had this conversation with other folk
> and have heard the arguements for both.  Roll on the mixed
> tour I guess is the only thing that make more sense to me.
>
> Good luck getting people to think of this now - i would hate
> to play in ultimate leagues in the future where men and
> women played in different games.
>
> Ben
>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Ruth Taylor wrote:
>
> > OK - apologies for the last email not really having a point. I assure
you
> > that I wrote quite a bit more than what came through to Britdisc, my
email
> > system appears to have messed it up and completely deleted the important
> > parts!
> >
> > Here is what I was trying to ask:
> >
> > Following the announcement that the Women's events will be held
alongside
> > the open Tour events, I was just wondering if there were any more women
out
> > there feeling a little disgruntled at having to choose between playing
Open
> > and Women's ultimate.
> >
> > I personally would like to be able to play both and am finding the
decision
> > a very hard one to make, ideally I would prefer not to have to make it
at
> > all. Do any other women out there feel the same?
> >
> > Ruth
> > Red
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ruth Taylor <ruth11@totalise.co.uk>
> > To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> > Sent: 25 February 2002 11:52
> > Subject: The Open Tour and Women's ultimate
> >
> >
> > > Following the announcement that the Women's events will be held
alongside
> > the
> > > open Tour events, I was just wondering if there were any more women
out
> > there
> > >
> > > decision.
> > >
> >
>

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hola,
Dr.SAND&Mr.GRASS z00z photos!!!
http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/tenerife/


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****************
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I didn't hear much about Paganello until SE Regionals this weekend (I'm
an American exchange student playing with Strange Blue this year).
Since this is my only year studying in Europe (more or less my only
chance until I get rich :-), since I plan to be in Italy around Easter
anyway, and since I love ultimate, I would REALLY love to play in this
tournament.

Unfortunately, the Strange Blue delegation to Rimini is already full, so
I'm wondering if there are any other teams still looking for players.
If anyone knows of any teams headed to Rimini who would be willing to
accept a 6'2" moderately-skilled, but good-spirited male player with a
little over two years of tournament experience, PLEASE let me know.

-thanks,
josh

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>TOUR ONE BRISTOL
>
>    ENTRY FEE - £145 per team 
>
>    A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of £25 is available for student 
>    teams i.e. £120.
>

Finally!!!!! the Tour tournament with everything the heart desires:

> flat, level, grassy pitches, as far as the eye can
> see, all with a moderate diagonal crosswind, no matter
> what the orientation of the pitch;

> an unlimited supply of fresh fruit, bagels, and mains
> water, to be found on the scorekeepers tables - below
> the electronic scoreboard - mounted on the front of
> the physio's pavilions AT EVERY PITCH;

> PA announcements of who's playing where and when, and
> score updates;

> dedicated Press photographers (7 per pitch) to capture
> your sickest moves on celluloid;

> Golf buggies to get you between pitches with minimum
> effort;

> limos to the party (dress code: black tie and little
> black dresses) - a five course meal with champagne and
> fine wine accompanied by a string quartet, then the
> option to chill out or groove to the latest tunes
> until sunrise;

> live video relay to giant screens so you can check all
> the great plays of the semis and Final from the
> comfort of your deckchair or hot tub space;

> Cheerleaders for all teams, and a rockin' halftime
> show at halftime (rumours of Will Young, Pop Idol, and
> Hear Say in support) in the Final;

> Waiter drinks service to you deckchair / hot tub;

> Guaranteed ambient temperature of 22 centigrade.

That's a damn good deal!

















Seriously though:

Fluid Druids cheque will be in the post in the not-too-distant future;

I'll be putting some effort into bids for 2003, and, if they're the only
ones, giving up working for a living!


Best regards,
Wayne Retter


NB: These are MY personal opinions, and NOT necessarily those of either
Fluid Druids, or Layout Dreams.

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From: "valerio iani" <bleifrei49@hotmail.com> 
Subject: Dr.SAND&Mr.GRASS photos!
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:15:52 

hola,
Dr.SAND&Mr.GRASS z00z photos!!!
http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/tenerife/ 


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****************
1. USA
2. AUSTRIA
3. GERMANY
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Ruth et al,

I agree too; it's a great idea having more women's
events and trying to raise the profile of the women's
game, but I'm finding it tough to decide whether to
play open or women's. I'm pretty sure that opinions on
this are split down the middle, from what I remember
being bashed around britdisc last year. Maybe we
should have women's events at 2 of the tours instead
of all four??

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<P>I don't want to start a debate on this. </P>
<P>There is a reason why TD's have been asked to accommodate women's divisions</P>
<P>It's important to give women's ultimate a profile and an audience and show players that there is another option to competing in a male dominated competition - women's events shouldn't be held separately to the tour and the co-ed tour becuase there just isn't space in the calendar and people aren't motivated to attend. This will improve, hopefully, the number and the development of female players in this country. </P>
<P>With the development of the co-ed tour, you now have the option to compete at a high level with men and women. Maybe women aren't ready to make this break from the 'norm' of playing with their Open team yet and the difficultly this year is that many of the top women are committed to their co-ed teams for Hawaii.</P>
<P>Perhaps women's teams who are planning to enter the women's division could publicise this so it is possible to assess the enthusiasm. </P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Nicole Roberts <MAAAFY_BIRD@YAHOO.CO.UK>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Ruth et al, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I agree too; it's a great idea having more women's 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;events and trying to raise the profile of the women's 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;being bashed around britdisc last year. Maybe we 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;of all four?? 
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Just a quick reminder to all teams in the Beginner tournament that all
experienced players MUST wear silly hats, and there will be a prize for the
silliest hat of all. (I have seen the Slipdisc and Birmingham Uni silly
hats, and you will have to do real good to beat them)
 
Any other frisbee-related queries, then get in touch with me or Simon using
the details below.
 
Sorry for taking up more of your time,
 
Andy Godber

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 22 February 2002 12:37
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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Hello, 

Just to let you know that Simon Statham is off work for 3 weeks, and if
there are any problems for any of the Beginners Tournament teams, then
either get in contact with me via e-mail/mobile (07733 426124), or phone
Simon on his mobile 07779 661728, and one of us should be able to sort you
out.

Captains meeting 12:15pm Saturday 2nd March, at King Edward Girls School,
Edgbaston, Birmingham. Silly hats for experienced players MUST be worn at
all times, even at the pub.

See you then 

Andy Godber 
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<DIV><SPAN class=180484712-26022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just a 
quick reminder to all teams in the Beginner tournament that all experienced 
players <STRONG><U>MUST</U></STRONG> wear silly hats, and there will be a prize 
for the silliest hat of all. (I have seen the Slipdisc and Birmingham Uni silly 
hats, and you will have to do real good to beat them)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=180484712-26022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=180484712-26022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Any 
other frisbee-related queries, then get in touch with me or Simon using the 
details below.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=180484712-26022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sorry 
for taking up more of your time,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=180484712-26022002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Andy 
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Andrew Godber 
  [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 22 February 2002 
  12:37<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> Birmingham 
  Beginners<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P><FONT size=2>Hello,</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Just to let you know that Simon Statham is off work for 3 
  weeks, and if there are any problems for any of the Beginners Tournament 
  teams, then either get in contact with me via e-mail/mobile (07733 426124), or 
  phone Simon on his mobile 07779 661728, and one of us should be able to sort 
  you out.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Captains meeting 12:15pm Saturday 2nd March, at King Edward 
  Girls School, Edgbaston, Birmingham. Silly hats for experienced players MUST 
  be worn at all times, even at the pub.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>See you then</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Andy Godber</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Slipdisc</FONT> 
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Dear Si, 

Just wanted to drop u a line and say thanks for the
excellent tournament u organised in Brixton this
weekend.

I also wanted to apologise, on behalf of myself and
the team, for any flak you might have received on
account of us not having a fully rostered team.

Because u did tell us we had to register - albeit only
last week.

By way of explanation; when we entered the tournament
we didn't know that everyone due to play had to
register and pay 25 quid, on top of the tournament
fee.

(That rule may well have been voted on whenever...I
don't really follow these things.)

So this was always going to be a problem as for at
least half of the team, this was going to be the only
official tournament they played in in the year.

For me to insist everyone paid 38 quid for one
tournament - just wasn't going to happen.

So when Ben released his "you're not playing unless u
register" e-mail, at the beginning of last week it
created something of a dilemma.

In the end we decided to "wing it".

And we appreciate you taking a commonsense attitude
and letting us play.

After all, had we known about all this registration
stuff when we entered - and organised our diaries - I
guess we just wouldn't have come, and that would have
been a shame, given that this was a local tournament
for us.

At the end of the day, the whole point of this
registration thing must be to stop teams moving
players about ie cheating.

And theres no question that any Lurker would do
anything underhand like that.   That comes under the
Spirit of the Game, it always has.

We wouldn't wear headscarves or put nicknames on the
back of our shirts either, but I guess thats more a
question of taste......

There is this increasing formality in the sport - I
suppose its inevitable as it grows.  And presumeably
there is some enthusiasm out there to commercialise
it.  One day we might even get referees!

And I'm not complaining - I've never done much
organisationally for Ultimate, other than on a team
level.

But for me the big attraction of Ultimate has always
been the lack of formality, and the emphasis on
Spirit.

If that makes me a maverick, so be it.  Although
somehow I don't think it does.

Heres wishing you, and all the players in the UK, a
great summer.


Keep the Spirit!


Ed Leake - Lurkers

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The DoC Bit

I am afraid the same old excuses are going to come
out. I am on a course for the next fortnight so will
not be contactable by email. If you have serious
issues, please call me on 07976 216135.

The TD Bit

Thanks everyone for coming. It was a fiercly
competitive tournament, but very well spirited and as
far as I am aware injury free. The results were:

14. The Airforce (Thanks for making it a 14 not 13
team tournament)
13. Mwnci See
12. Uriel II
11. Discoordinated (Great to see a junior team make an
appearance)
10. BAF Too

9. Mr Men (Plate Winners)
8. No Frills (Greta to see them playing co-ed all
weekend)
7. Sublime
6. Uriel

5. Discult
4. Urscumug (Great to see a student team do so well)
3. Sharks
2. SNOAP (Spirit Winners and Yes Fatboy was playing)

1. Blue Arse Flies (Winners)

2nd MVP Wayne Davey
MVP Zulu

Weston of the Tournament
3rd Rich Smart for turning up in cricket whites
2nd Del Smart for falling over for no apparent reason
mid-game on Sunday morning
1st Claerwen Snell for being sucked into drinking
Purple Aftershok with the Mr Men and then spending the
rest of the night vomitting.

The only lost property is a green metal water bottle
(Ali - No Frills?) amd a HUGE pair of blue Nike
shorts.

Thanks again,

Si Weeks

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Hi all
Yet again we are faced with the dilemma/issue of women who play on open 
teams but wanting to play women's as well.
There is a famous saying that goes something along the lines of you 
can't please all the people all of the time and I think this sums up 
this situation perfectly.
While some women may be in the position of having a place on an open 
team which plays in the tour, I would hazard a guess that the majority 
don't.
Unfortunately, it comes down to making a personal choice.
There are arguments for both sides - as Rebecca said having women's 
events alongside open events helps to raise the profile of women's 
ultimate - how many players know who won the two women's nationals last 
year and have some idea of who were in the teams? - and as Ruth said it 
is hard to decide between the two, when you are part of an open team and 
also want to play women's ultimate too.
Nicole's suggestion of some kind of compromise seems to be the way 
forward, but if there are enough women to make an event alongside an 
open tour viable, then they shouldn't lose out either.
The key point to be made is that this is something for the female 
players themselves to think about and discuss in order to try and find 
the solution which results in pleasing as many of the people as much of 
the time as possible.

This leads me nicely onto my next point.
At the women's tournament in Nottingham in December, a short meeting was 
held after the final, and one of the ideas was to set up a mailing list 
for the female players in the UK, where they could discuss relevant 
issues and keep up to date with what is happening re practices and 
tournaments (I must stress for both women's and mixed ultimate).
I have set up a mailing list for the female players of the UK to join 
(its a yahoogroups one).

If you would like to subscribe, then send an email to 
ukuw-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

If you have any queries/problems, then send me an email and I'll 
endeavour to answer them.
Please forward this on to any players who may not be on britdisc and 
even if a whole team can't subscribe, try and get at least one person 
to, just so the team knows what's going on.
The only way to solve the dilemmas faced by female players is to work 
them out ourselves, and I hope this mailing list will provide a starting 
point.
Thanks
Laura Pearce



Rebecca Humphries wrote:

> I don't want to start a debate on this.
>
> There is a reason why TD's have been asked to accommodate women's 
> divisions
>
> It's important to give women's ultimate a profile and an audience and 
> show players that there is another option to competing in a male 
> dominated competition - women's events shouldn't be held separately to 
> the tour and the co-ed tour becuase there just isn't space in the 
> calendar and people aren't motivated to attend. This will improve, 
> hopefully, the number and the development of female players in this 
> country.
>
> With the development of the co-ed tour, you now have the option to 
> compete at a high level with men and women. Maybe women aren't ready 
> to make this break from the 'norm' of playing with their Open team yet 
> and the difficultly this year is that many of the top women are 
> committed to their co-ed teams for Hawaii.
>
> Perhaps women's teams who are planning to enter the women's division 
> could publicise this so it is possible to assess the enthusiasm.
>
> Rebecca
>
> >From: Nicole Roberts >To: britdisc >Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: The Open 
> Tour and Women's ultimate >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 03:37:01 -0800 (PST) 
> > >Ruth et al, > >I agree too; it's a great idea having more women's 
> >events and trying to raise the profile of the women's >game, but I'm 
> finding it tough to decide whether to >play open or women's. I'm 
> pretty sure that opinions on >this are split down the middle, from 
> what I remember >being bashed around britdisc last year. Maybe we 
> >should have women's events at 2 of the tours instead >of all four?? > 
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Ultimators,

I've been thinking about the UKU and were it will take the
ultimate community (always dangerous).  When the discusion
occured last september about moving from the BUF to the UKU
we talked about pros and cons.  I think there are many 
benifits of the UKU (better interaction between players and 
uk body and admin support, etc).  I also think that Ben and 
the rest of the Exec are doing a great job.  But....

My concern is that UKU ONLY targets those players who play
in the open tours.  Great - keen, involved, lots of
enthusiasm and serious about the sport and developing it.  
But it is not in the interests of players who wont compete
in the open events to register (finacially anyway) to join.  
I have a fairly full ultimate year planned.  I'm playing in
the coed tour this year.  I've been intrumental in setting
up a local student frisbee league, involving over 140
ultimate players.  I'm going to Portugal for the hat and
will probably play in a couple of the friendly tournaments
(glastonbury, chipping norton etc).  I can and probably will
register even though i don't need to to be able to play the
frisbee that I want to play.  But my point is that there is
a huge number of players, commitment and enthusiasm out here
that isn't targetted and are likely not be registered and
hence not involved with UKU.

The old BUF had links with EVERY team in the country.  OK so
nobody turned up to the AGMs, but the governing body
represented UK ultimate.  While I have no problems with the
ultiamte community as a whole at the moment, and I feel the
executive broadly reflects the ultimate community - I think
that the future of the UKU will see a increasing enthasis on
the Open, or more 'serious' portion of the calander.  Just
because the future UKU will only be selected by the section
of the ultimate community which plays in the Open events.

OK so what?!?  Open players have the interest of ultimate as
their priority as well, don't they?  I don't think this is
currently an issue, but I think that it will in the longer
term. People who are involved in ultimate in other non-uku
events will not have the democratic strength to be able to
influence future directions in UK ultimate.  That will mean
that Mixed sides, Womens teams, social teams, less serious
teams, school teams will not naturally be members of UKU
unless they also play open or actively deciede to make an 
active role in uku.  I think these people also have alot to 
give to ultimate.  

So whats the point of this email?  I want to ask: Is it
correct that only registered UKU players will be able to
vote for future UKU positions?  (If not sorry for worrying
you all).  If this is the case I think that is something
that needed to be raised.  I didn't realise when I voted
last year that, due to required registration rules, it would
lead to such a split between registered and non registered
membership.  Would there be a way to bring in the rest of
the ultimate community?

Hope this gets you thinking,

Ben
Mootones

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Well, the guy who was recording Brixton isn't on this list, so does anyone
know who it was or how to contact them?
Sorry to spam again, I just really want a copy of the tape, heh.

Here're some photos from said tournament:
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~shark/mohawks/Brixton%20SE%20Regionals%20200
2/index.htm (make sure you get the whole address copied somehow).


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Ben,

UK Ultimate was always intended to be inclusive and as long as I have
anything to do with it that will remain the case.

However to do what we are doing requires money and the only people to whom
we can reasonably (or practically) charge fees are the 'serious' players
which at present are mainly Open division players. This is more a problem
with who plays than anything inherently wrong with the association itself.
You will find a similar situation in pretty much any amateur sports
organisation.

The association only really became a financially viable idea a couple of
years ago when players numbers seemed to swell considerably. We're still at
the stage where we need all members (for members read 'cash') we can get to
break even. We're very confident that this will happen this year.

With continued growth in numbers we should find ourselves in 'profit' so
that we have extra cash to subsidise worthy causes or just reduce the
players fee. Personally I would like to see the former happen. In effect the
Open division may be called upon to support other less established divisions
until they are more self sufficient. I'm sure that as long as this is done
carefully we will have the support of the open players in this.

I think however that your concern about the democracy of the sport is a fair
one so lets hear what people have to say. Do we want to make the democracy
open to anyone who plays? It is feasible but how could it be acheived
fairly?

Consider the truism which gets rattled out from time to time: "If you want
something done do it yourself." Perhaps we sometimes say this rather
spitefully but it can be meant in a very positive way.  I would love to see
a groundswell of 'fun' tournaments just like the ones which got me hooked
but it will require motivation by individuals. I actually think that the
abolition of tournament tax and the current 'hands-off' approach towards
these sort of events are actually very constructive first steps . However
these still need organisation and representation as you said. Who will stand
up and say "we need more effort put into division X and I'm going to get
involved" ? I actually think there are a lot of people out there who do care
enough do get involved and I'm happy to say that there quite a few of them
on the current board of directors.

Finally, I would encourage *anyone* who plays ultimate to join the
association. If the current offering isn't relevant to certain people then
please tell us about it.

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Booth" <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 26 February 2002 23:32
Subject: Participation in the UKU


>
> Ultimators,
>
> I've been thinking about the UKU and were it will take the
> ultimate community (always dangerous).  When the discusion
> occured last september about moving from the BUF to the UKU
> we talked about pros and cons.  I think there are many
> benifits of the UKU (better interaction between players and
> uk body and admin support, etc).  I also think that Ben and
> the rest of the Exec are doing a great job.  But....
>
> My concern is that UKU ONLY targets those players who play
> in the open tours.  Great - keen, involved, lots of
> enthusiasm and serious about the sport and developing it.
> But it is not in the interests of players who wont compete
> in the open events to register (finacially anyway) to join.
> I have a fairly full ultimate year planned.  I'm playing in
> the coed tour this year.  I've been intrumental in setting
> up a local student frisbee league, involving over 140
> ultimate players.  I'm going to Portugal for the hat and
> will probably play in a couple of the friendly tournaments
> (glastonbury, chipping norton etc).  I can and probably will
> register even though i don't need to to be able to play the
> frisbee that I want to play.  But my point is that there is
> a huge number of players, commitment and enthusiasm out here
> that isn't targetted and are likely not be registered and
> hence not involved with UKU.
>
> The old BUF had links with EVERY team in the country.  OK so
> nobody turned up to the AGMs, but the governing body
> represented UK ultimate.  While I have no problems with the
> ultiamte community as a whole at the moment, and I feel the
> executive broadly reflects the ultimate community - I think
> that the future of the UKU will see a increasing enthasis on
> the Open, or more 'serious' portion of the calander.  Just
> because the future UKU will only be selected by the section
> of the ultimate community which plays in the Open events.
>
> OK so what?!?  Open players have the interest of ultimate as
> their priority as well, don't they?  I don't think this is
> currently an issue, but I think that it will in the longer
> term. People who are involved in ultimate in other non-uku
> events will not have the democratic strength to be able to
> influence future directions in UK ultimate.  That will mean
> that Mixed sides, Womens teams, social teams, less serious
> teams, school teams will not naturally be members of UKU
> unless they also play open or actively deciede to make an
> active role in uku.  I think these people also have alot to
> give to ultimate.
>
> So whats the point of this email?  I want to ask: Is it
> correct that only registered UKU players will be able to
> vote for future UKU positions?  (If not sorry for worrying
> you all).  If this is the case I think that is something
> that needed to be raised.  I didn't realise when I voted
> last year that, due to required registration rules, it would
> lead to such a split between registered and non registered
> membership.  Would there be a way to bring in the rest of
> the ultimate community?
>
> Hope this gets you thinking,
>
> Ben
> Mootones
>
>



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Can someone send me a full list of teams that have qualified for indoor
nationals.

Arun


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Could anyone who has a contact for Si please let me know.

Thanks,
Barry
barry@endzone.co.uk

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If you team didn't qualify for national and you would like to put yourself
on the reserve list let me know.

Obviously places will be given to the highest non qualifying team on a fist
come basis.

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>Finally, I would encourage *anyone* who plays ultimate to join the
>association. If the current offering isn't relevant to certain people
>then please tell us about it.
>Ben

would it not be possible to have some kind of "non-playing" membership for a 
reduced fee? which would include the newsletter and voting rights, but not 
eligibility for official tournaments. this would be ideal for the less 
fanatical players who want to be recognised as part of the UKU, but aren't 
committed to the tour/nationals/etc. and could potentially produce even more 
revenue (cash).

ed

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ben Booth" <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Sent: 26 February 2002 23:32
>Subject: Participation in the UKU
>
> > My concern is that UKU ONLY targets those players who play
> > in the open tours.  Great - keen, involved, lots of
> > enthusiasm and serious about the sport and developing it.
> > But it is not in the interests of players who wont compete
> > in the open events to register (finacially anyway) to join.
> > I have a fairly full ultimate year planned.  I'm playing in
> > the coed tour this year.  I've been intrumental in setting
> > up a local student frisbee league, involving over 140
> > ultimate players.  I'm going to Portugal for the hat and
> > will probably play in a couple of the friendly tournaments
> > (glastonbury, chipping norton etc).  I can and probably will
> > register even though i don't need to to be able to play the
> > frisbee that I want to play.  But my point is that there is
> > a huge number of players, commitment and enthusiasm out here
> > that isn't targetted and are likely not be registered and
> > hence not involved with UKU.


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Ed,

The eligibility for tournaments doesn't really cost us anything so there is no saving to be made unfortunately.

Our main costs are the newsletter and the administrator and these would remain irrespective of whether you played in the official events. 

If we are to appeal to a wider audience then we just need to make sure that these benefits are relevant to everyone who plays. I hope that this turns out to be the case.

Ben

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "ed shardlow" <edshardlow@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:15:20 +0000

>
>>Finally, I would encourage *anyone* who plays ultimate to join the
>>association. If the current offering isn't relevant to certain people
>>then please tell us about it.
>>Ben
>
>would it not be possible to have some kind of "non-playing" membership for a 
>reduced fee? which would include the newsletter and voting rights, but not 
>eligibility for official tournaments. this would be ideal for the less 
>fanatical players who want to be recognised as part of the UKU, but aren't 
>committed to the tour/nationals/etc. and could potentially produce even more 
>revenue (cash).
>
>ed
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Ben Booth" <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
>>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>>Sent: 26 February 2002 23:32
>>Subject: Participation in the UKU
>>
>> > My concern is that UKU ONLY targets those players who play
>> > in the open tours.  Great - keen, involved, lots of
>> > enthusiasm and serious about the sport and developing it.
>> > But it is not in the interests of players who wont compete
>> > in the open events to register (finacially anyway) to join.
>> > I have a fairly full ultimate year planned.  I'm playing in
>> > the coed tour this year.  I've been intrumental in setting
>> > up a local student frisbee league, involving over 140
>> > ultimate players.  I'm going to Portugal for the hat and
>> > will probably play in a couple of the friendly tournaments
>> > (glastonbury, chipping norton etc).  I can and probably will
>> > register even though i don't need to to be able to play the
>> > frisbee that I want to play.  But my point is that there is
>> > a huge number of players, commitment and enthusiasm out here
>> > that isn't targetted and are likely not be registered and
>> > hence not involved with UKU.
>
>
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Subject: Re: Indoor Nationals - Reserve Team list
From: Gareth Jones <gareth.jones@brunel.ac.uk>
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surely this is done on a region by region basis if a qualifying team drops
out?

Gaz

on 27/2/02 12:29 pm, Arun Sharma at arun.sharma@highway-insurance.co.uk
wrote:

> If you team didn't qualify for national and you would like to put yourself
> on the reserve list let me know.
> 
> Obviously places will be given to the highest non qualifying team on a fist
> come basis.
> 
> Arun
> 
> 

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Results from Nottingham are as follows


1. Bears (Cup Winners)
2 Whiplash
3 Purple Haze
4 Red (Fushia / Thudercats)
5 Skunks

6 Slip-e-Disc
7 FlyTNT
8 FlyghtClub

9 Block Stack & 2SB (Plate Winners)
10 BearsII
11 Kamaya Maya
12 Mental Disc
13 Purplae Haze II
14 Random Fling
15 Skunks II
16 FlyTNT II

17  Red (Crimson)
18 Purple Haze III
19 Jesters
20 Discophilia (SOTG Winners)

Thankfully despite some copious drinking there was no bad spirit and
everyone got at least one spirit vote.  Even in the final games when the
play became very strong and aggresive, still Ultimate waas the winner at the
end of the day!

Also, there were no bongs...  visible...

Again, a big thanks to everyone who attended and everyone who helped out.
Hope you all had a fantastic time and we'll see you all again real soon!

Sam
Nottingham Ultimate


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All,

Please remember that bids for this year's Student Outdoors must be in THIS
FRIDAY, so get a move on...  Previous message about bids attached.

Tim.

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> All,
>
> Bids are now being taken for the hosting of the Student Outdoors 2002.  The
> date set for this event is the weekend of 4th/5th May -- this will not be
> changed.  If anyone is interested in hosting the event, please contact me
ASAP
> at tim@mwncisee.co.uk with details of your bid.
>
> In general, bids should cover in details such as:
>
>  - facilities for 32 teams
>  - (at least) 8 pitches, preferably 10 (or more)
>  - _hot_ showers and changing facilities for everyone
>  - camping facilities (or other accommodation)
>  - St. John's (or other medical aid) on site Sat and Sun
>    during playing time
>  - party on Sat night, preferably on site or very near by
>  - local amenities (supermarket etc) available within easy
>    walking distance
>  - general location and accessibility
>  - bribes ;o)
>  - anything else I've forgotten
>
> You have until the end of next week (Friday 1st March) to get your bids in.
> All bids will then be put to the student committee and a decision will be
made
> very soon after.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim.
>
> --
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hey Arun,

Ignoring your typo (I hope!) the second paragraph of your 27/02/2002
mailing:

>> If you team didn't qualify for national and you would like to put yourself
>> on the reserve list let me know.
>> 
>> Obviously places will be given to the highest non qualifying team on a fist
>> come basis.
>> 
>> Arun

seems to disagree with your 25/02/2002 mailing:

Arun Sharma
Subject: Indoor Nationals
>http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tourny_home.cgi?dir=indoornationals 
>Teams qualified - Top 5 from each region in England and top four from the
>Scottish region.
>You can find details re Indoor nationals on the above site. The qualified
>teams are on the site - send cheque by end of week or space will be given to
>next team in region.
>£95 payable to Leeds Ultimate - send to:
>Indoor Nationals
>42 Richmond Mount
>Headingley
>Leeds
>LS6 1DF
>Arun


No wonder some people are calling it "Schmindoors" !

Wayne
Indoors with Yo Mama

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Presumably this means that if one team drops out, then the place goes =
to the
next interested team from their regional? It would be useful if there =
is
some clarification on this from Rob Owen or Si Weeks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Retter [mailto:wayne@fluiddruids.com]
Sent: 27 February 2002 23:20
To: Arun Sharma
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Indoor Nationals - Reserve Team list


hey Arun,

Ignoring your typo (I hope!) the second paragraph of your 27/02/2002
mailing:

>> If you team didn't qualify for national and you would like to put
yourself
>> on the reserve list let me know.
>>=20
>> Obviously places will be given to the highest non qualifying team on =
a
fist
>> come basis.
>>=20
>> Arun

seems to disagree with your 25/02/2002 mailing:

Arun Sharma
Subject: Indoor Nationals
>http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tourny_home.cgi?dir=3Dindoornationals =

>Teams qualified - Top 5 from each region in England and top four from =
the
>Scottish region.
>You can find details re Indoor nationals on the above site. The =
qualified
>teams are on the site - send cheque by end of week or space will be =
given
to
>next team in region.
>=A395 payable to Leeds Ultimate - send to:
>Indoor Nationals
>42 Richmond Mount
>Headingley
>Leeds
>LS6 1DF
>Arun


No wonder some people are calling it "Schmindoors" !

Wayne
Indoors with Yo Mama

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Presumably this means that if one team drops out, =
then the place goes to the next interested team from their regional? It =
would be useful if there is some clarification on this from Rob Owen or =
Si Weeks.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Wayne Retter [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:wayne@fluiddruids.com">mailto:wayne@fluiddruids.com</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 27 February 2002 23:20</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Arun Sharma</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Indoor Nationals - Reserve Team =
list</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>hey Arun,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ignoring your typo (I hope!) the second paragraph of =
your 27/02/2002</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>mailing:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; If you team didn't qualify for national and =
you would like to put yourself</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; on the reserve list let me know.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; Obviously places will be given to the =
highest non qualifying team on a fist</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; come basis.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt; Arun</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>seems to disagree with your 25/02/2002 =
mailing:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Arun Sharma</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Indoor Nationals</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;<A =
HREF=3D"http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tourny_home.cgi?dir=3Dindoornat=
ionals" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tourny_home.cgi?dir=3D=
indoornationals</A> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Teams qualified - Top 5 from each region in =
England and top four from the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Scottish region.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;You can find details re Indoor nationals on the =
above site. The qualified</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;teams are on the site - send cheque by end of =
week or space will be given to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;next team in region.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;=A395 payable to Leeds Ultimate - send =
to:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Indoor Nationals</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;42 Richmond Mount</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Headingley</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Leeds</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;LS6 1DF</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Arun</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>No wonder some people are calling it =
&quot;Schmindoors&quot; !</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Wayne</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Indoors with Yo Mama</FONT>
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Felix,

I was talking to the guy filming at the tourney, and he runs the
website:

http://www.londoneasy.co.uk

Perhaps you can find contact details there.

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2002 Brunel Beast Tournament - SNOUT Warm Up=20
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Date: 20-21 April
Teams: 16
Cost: =A360
Venue: Brunel University, west London.  M25 with M40 or M4.  Uxbridge=20
station on the metropolitan line or Hayes and Harlington on the=20
overground train from Paddignton to Reading.

Party: On Campus.  We have secured advanced tickets for the Comedy Club=20
followed by the club night.  =A34 entry

Other Events: We will host a Flubber Guts knockout tournament.  Plans =
also=20
include a Gutts competition for those brave (mad) enough=20
and a distance event.

Accommodation: In usual style (student floors) for all who request it.

MORE!: http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~xxsuultf/tournament.htm

The tournament is mostly a warm up for student outdoors 2 weeks later. =20
Second teams are encouraged, all levels of ability.

Email to confirm your place.

Cheers.
Gemma=20
(me01gmt@brunel.ac.uk)

Please make checks payable to 'Union of Brunel Students' and send to:
Ultimate Club
c/o Union of Brunel Students
Brunel University
Uxbridge
Middlesex
UB8 3PH



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2002 Brunel Beast Tournament - SNOUT =
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April<BR>Teams:=20
16<BR>Cost: =A360<BR>Venue: Brunel University, west London.&nbsp; M25 =
with M40 or=20
M4.&nbsp; Uxbridge <BR>station on the metropolitan line or Hayes and =
Harlington=20
on the <BR>overground train from Paddignton to Reading.<BR><BR>Party: On =

Campus.&nbsp; We have secured advanced tickets for the Comedy Club =
<BR>followed=20
by the club night.&nbsp; =A34 entry<BR><BR>Other Events: We will host a =
Flubber=20
Guts knockout tournament.&nbsp; Plans also <BR>include a Gutts =
competition for=20
those brave (mad) enough <BR>and a distance event.<BR><BR>Accommodation: =
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confirm=20
your place.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gemma </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(<A=20
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Club<BR>c/o Union of Brunel Students<BR>Brunel=20
University<BR>Uxbridge<BR>Middlesex<BR>UB8=20
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>To All Ladeez:</DIV>
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<DIV>Saturday practice at Regent's Park (noon, north end near the zoo and green rooftops) will be cancelled this weekend, but continue March 9th.&nbsp; Weather has been gorgeous, so come on out!</DIV>
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Have the Northern boys developed Gills???

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From: "Pete Harvey" <harvey@backspin.co.uk>
To: "Britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Cc: <ClaphamBullfrogs@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Winter League Beers
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 18:19:38 -0000
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Winter Leaguers,
 
After Winter League Finals, we'll be meeting up at 7pm at the 100 Pub,
100 Clapham Park Road (Clapham Common Tube is closest).
 
http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?pc=SW47BZ
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000&title=Site%20is%20usually%20within%20circle.&cat=pub>
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Get there early as It'll get busy.
 
All welcome - tell your mates and bring your older
sisters/cousins/mothers so that roger has someone to drool over.
 
Harvey
Clapham #20
 

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D958201917-28022002><FONT size=3D2>Harvey<BR>Clapham=20
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Hi

Sorry for ther lack of sooner clarification.  The process for reserve teams 
is as it has been in previous years.

Should a team decide not to go to Nationals or not pay their cheque in time 
then their place go's to the next place finishing team in that region.

For instance should a team in the North not make it then their place would 
go to the 6th place team YBK 1. In the South East it would be Nightfever etc 
etc.

Hopefully this is clear.

Thanks

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Could ANYONE from Un Poco Loco please call me to confirm you're coming
tomorrow. I think you are but need confirmation, which as yet has not been
forthcoming. My number: 07973 620845.

Could everyone else please make sure you're there in good time to start
playing  @ 10.30 am. We're playing a big round robin of 30 minute games
(with handicaps) followed by a Fantasy Final involving 3 players from each
team playing to win prizes for their team - so we need to get started
pronto.

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Subject: Loughborough Lost Property.
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All who were at Loughborough, 

I have got all your claims for lost property stuff. I am going to the following 
tournaments and will bring them to those tournaments. It is your responsibility 
to come and find me and claim them. Either arrange for someone else to pick the 
item up for you or come and get it yourself. Everything else has gone to 
charity. 

London Winter League (tomorrow)
Bradford 
Nottingham (women's nationals)

See you there, 

Luke

www.lufbra-ultimate.co.uk

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Hello everyone,

We are now on the brink of our beginners tournament, but we have found
ourselves one team down due to an unfortunate drop-out. If there are any
BEGINNER teams out there who are coming and would like to bring more, or who
would like to come to a 12 team frisbee tournament, then get in contact with
either me or Simon Statham (07779 661728) as soon as you can, so that we can
fill up the spot.

The play runs from 12:00pm to 5pm Saturday, and 9-5pm on Sunday, with a
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>We are now on the brink of our beginners tournament, =
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would like to bring more, or who would like to come to a 12 team =
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Subject: accomodation for indoors wanted
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Hi there,
Does anyone have any floor space available to crash on for the indoor
nationals? Or info on B&B or Camping? I seem to have lost any relevant
previous posting.
thanks
Fraser
(Sneeeky's)

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OK...

The only bids for student outdoors this year I've had are from St. Andrews and
from Nottingham.  Is there anyone else that wants to put in a last minute bid,
or anyone that sent me a bid ages ago that I've forgotten about?!?!

Tim.

--
Tim Blair
UK Ultimate Student Co-ordinator 2000-02
Captain - Mwnci See
http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/
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Subject: [student-ultimate] Student Outdoor Bids


> All,
>
> Bids are now being taken for the hosting of the Student Outdoors 2002.  The
> date set for this event is the weekend of 4th/5th May -- this will not be
> changed.  If anyone is interested in hosting the event, please contact me
ASAP
> at tim@mwncisee.co.uk with details of your bid.
>
> In general, bids should cover in details such as:
>
>  - facilities for 32 teams
>  - (at least) 8 pitches, preferably 10 (or more)
>  - _hot_ showers and changing facilities for everyone
>  - camping facilities (or other accommodation)
>  - St. John's (or other medical aid) on site Sat and Sun
>    during playing time
>  - party on Sat night, preferably on site or very near by
>  - local amenities (supermarket etc) available within easy
>    walking distance
>  - general location and accessibility
>  - bribes ;o)
>  - anything else I've forgotten
>
> You have until the end of next week (Friday 1st March) to get your bids in.
> All bids will then be put to the student committee and a decision will be
made
> very soon after.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim.
>
> --
> Tim Blair
> UK Ultimate Student Coordinator 2000-02
> Captain - Mwnci See
> http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/
> tim@mwncisee.co.uk
>
>
>
>
> .


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MUTE ANIMAL UNIT ARE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THEIR FIRST
EVER TOURNY

STUDENT OUTDOOR TOURNY

27-28 April

This is a 'sponsored' event: tourny fee is £100 but we
would like you to play in fancy dress/silly
hats/anything that justifies you been sponsorsed,
nudity is not an option! It's been reserved by another
team! 

Accommodation is on peoples floors for those who need
it i.e those without enough firepower to defend
themselves camping in manchester. (that means there's
no camping)

Money is going to Barnardos.

We have space for 16 teams, and we're looking forward
to providing you with some quality frisbee and some
major partying, with the odd kebab and curry mile
experience squeezed in there for good luck, although
you might not be feeling that on Sunday morning :)
(squeezed might have been the wrong word to use)

Anyway make cheques payable to M.U.S.C.A (manchester
university student charities association)

and send to

64 Ashford Rd
Withington 
Manchester
M20 3EH

Cheers

Dann. Pres. of MUTE

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Can any women who live in manchester or who would be
prepared to travel to manchester for ladies training
please reply to this E-mail.

cheers

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Thanks to everyone who came along and made it such a great weekend.

Richard
Bongos DSC


DISC GOLF - BDGA Doubles Matchplay - results:

1 Deltones (Derek Robins/Tony Wakeford - Quarry Park DGC)

2 Fools Gold (Sam Neilsen/Jester - Quarry Park DGC/Bongos DSC)
3 The Bards (Rob Capper/Budley Tiltern - New City Slickers/Oxdisc)
4 Ivansue (Sue Underwood/Ivan Brommage - Quarry Park DGC)
5 Flash Gordans (Richard Sampson/Spencer Worth - Bongos DSC)
6 Old  and Older (Steve Jones/Guy Luard - Bongos DSC/no club)
7 Drunken Monkeys (Jon Turner/Gwynn Wilden -Oxdisc)
8 Newcastle Brown (Robin Ailes/Simon Ailes - no club)
9 Dark Destroyers (Ben Ayres/Duncan Hartshorne - Point Blank DSC)
10 Fat Stuff (Billy Ault/Dan Masey - NOMADS)
11 Malvern Hillbillies (Neil 'Bruce' Webber/Andrew Bell - Malvern Hillbillies)
12 NC Slackers - (Richard Stirling/Barry Wolfe - New City Skimmers)

Best Drive
Derek Robins - Quarry Park DGC

Closest To The Pin (CTP)
Ivan Brommage

Ace Award (almost)
Duncan Hartshorne - Point Blank DSC

Most Improved Team
Drunken Monkeys (Jon Turner/Gwynn Wilden - Oxdisc)

 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

DOUBLE DISC COURT (DDC)

Most Entertaining Team
Drunken Monkeys (Jon Turner/Gwynn Wilden - Oxdisc)

Unbeaten
Fools Gold (Sam Neilsen/Jester - Quarry Park DGC/Bongos DSC)

Most Disheartened
Fat Stuff (Billy Ault/Dan Masey - NOMADS)

Muddiest
Malvern Hillbillies (Neil 'Bruce' Webber/Andrew Bell - Malvern Hillbillies)


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1/ Clapham 2 
2/ Clapham 1
3/ Fluid Druids
4/ TeamShark
5/ Un Poco Loco
6/ Smash & Grab
7/ Fever
8/ Hammerage

Each team played 7 half-hour handicapped games to 8, the handicap being half
the difference between the seedings (half points counting as getting the
pull). There were still remarkably few upsets, and those that did happen
went some way to justifying the choice of format: Poco beat Clapham 2 by the
one handicap point, Druids beat Sharks by the one handicap point and Clapham
2 beat Clapham 1 by the one handicap point. It was fun to try something
different, and everyone seemed to enjoy the chance to play all the other
teams as a grand finale to the Winter League series - but I'm not sure
handicapping is anything anyone should consider in a more serious
tournament.

There followed a very amusing Fantasy Final with 3 players from each team
battling it out to win beer for their teams. Lewis from the Druids was
unanimously voted MVP for his constant scubas and trick catches (only some
of which came off it must be said..), but Lee Noble was more consistent and
must have won at least 2 cases of Rolling Rock on his own for TeamShark to
polish off. The Least Valuable Player award was specially invented and
awarded after a particularly awful performance to Guy Bowles of Clapham. How
we laughed ;-) 

There was supposed to be a spirit award but every team was obviously so torn
about who to give it to that noone submitted a vote. So we all won in the
end :-) Thanks very much everyone who helped tidy the pitches at the end,
and to everyone who's helped in any way at all over the winter, even if only
to offer advice or opinions on formats or seeding.

The whole series (5 one-day tournaments) seems to have been a very
successful experiment that it would be great to run again next year,
especially if we could get the Division 2 running more effectively with a
few more teams. All the teams present have definitely improved over the
winter and seemed to relish the chance to keep playing competitive disk.
Maybe next year there could be a Northern League as well and the top teams
from each could meet in a spring SuperBowl? 

FOUND: 
One light brown Cahart t-shirt - let me know if it's yours.
LOST: 
"a cut-sleeves white t-shirt with SEXI written in an orange square at the
back and a green square at the front?" Britney's (who else?) - Marc Guilbert
[m_guilbert@yahoo.com]
STOLEN: MY CLAPHAM ULTIMATE #1 TEAM CAP LAST SEEN BEING HALF-INCHED BY WAYNE
RETTER AT THE AWARDS CEREMONY! It's an irreplacable piece of team kit and
I'd really appreciate any information leading to it's recovery. Please.
Pretty please. It smells, I love it more than you, please help us be
reunited.

Oh, and each team got a frog :-)

See you all in Rimini or at Tour 1,

Silver Bear
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Can we all agree that it's fun to see Roger beg for someone to be nice to 
him and return his hat?

Hope ya find it, Roj.

Emily

>STOLEN: MY CLAPHAM ULTIMATE #1 TEAM CAP LAST SEEN BEING HALF-INCHED BY 
>WAYNE
>RETTER AT THE AWARDS CEREMONY! It's an irreplacable piece of team kit and
>I'd really appreciate any information leading to it's recovery. Please.
>Pretty please. It smells, I love it more than you, please help us be
>reunited.
>


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Anyone lost a pair of jogging trousers?
Or perhaps a pair of Trainers?

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Dear all

The time has come to fill in some of the blanks about the weekend's
activities. I am sending a second e-mail, and attaching a 200k file to it
with directions to the sports venue, but this e-mail has gone to the
individual addresses supplied by the teams. If anyone has any problems
receiving
this file, then let me know as soon as possible, and I can get a text only
version sent to you ASAP. When you are at the venue on Saturday, I will get
you some directions to the party venue for later on, and there should be
plenty of locals to direct you to anywhere you need.

The seedings for the tournament are listed below, and if there are any huge
inaccuracies, then please let me know as soon as you can, so that something
can be done about it.

1	Bears 1
2	Whiplash
3	Purple Haze
4	Baboom
5	Slipdisc
6	The Fish
7	Uriel
8	Sublime
9	Trigger Happy
10	MMJ
11	Flyght Club
12	Block Stack
13	The Airforce
14	WAS
15	Kamaya Maya
16	Slipdisc 2
17	Mwnci See
18	Bears 2
19	Chuft
20	Jesters

There will be a brief Captains Meeting at 8:55am on the Saturday morning,
but the important thing is to turn up in time for your own first game. There
will be packs available for all the teams, and these can be collected from
the desk. The first games for teams are as follows:

9:05 Bears, Mwnci See, Whiplash, Bears 2;
9:24 Purple Haze, Jesters, Baboom, Chuft;
9:43 Trigger Happy, Slipdisc 2, Uriel, Kamaya Maya;
10:02 The Fish, WAS, Slipdisc, Block Stack;
10:21 Bears 1, Sublime, Whiplash, MMJ;
10:40 Purple Haze, Flyght Club, Baboom, The Airforce;

The games will be split onto 2 smaller pitches on Saturday until 3:30pm, and
briefly on Sunday morning, but the other times will be on a larger single
pitch. There will not be huge amounts of room on the sidelines when two
pitches are operating, so please respect the teams that are playing and try
not to encroach.

There will be a bar upstairs at the venue, and there should be some hot and
cold food available during the day.

The party will be at TC's in Selly Oak, and directions will be given out in
the Captains packs.

If anyone has any problems, then give me an e-mail or a ring on 07733
426124.

Thank you for your time and looking forward to the weekend, (more than
usual)

Andy Godber
Slipdisc

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The time has come to fill in some of the blanks about =
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has gone to the individual addresses supplied by the teams. If anyone =
has any problems receiving</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>this file, then let me know as soon as possible, and =
I can get a text only</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>version sent to you ASAP. When you are at the venue =
on Saturday, I will get</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>you some directions to the party venue for later on, =
and there should be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>plenty of locals to direct you to anywhere you =
need.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The seedings for the tournament are listed below, and =
if there are any huge inaccuracies, then please let me know as soon as =
you can, so that something can be done about it.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears 1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Whiplash</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Purple =
Haze</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Baboom</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Slipdisc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
Fish</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Uriel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sublime</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Trigger =
Happy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MMJ</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght Club</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Block Stack</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Airforce</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WAS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kamaya Maya</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Slipdisc 2</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mwnci See</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears 2</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>19&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Chuft</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jesters</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>There will be a brief Captains Meeting at 8:55am on =
the Saturday morning,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>but the important thing is to turn up in time for =
your own first game. There</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>will be packs available for all the teams, and these =
can be collected from</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the desk. The first games for teams are as =
follows:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>9:05 Bears, Mwnci See, Whiplash, Bears 2;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>9:24 Purple Haze, Jesters, Baboom, Chuft;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>9:43 Trigger Happy, Slipdisc 2, Uriel, Kamaya =
Maya;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>10:02 The Fish, WAS, Slipdisc, Block Stack;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>10:21 Bears 1, Sublime, Whiplash, MMJ;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>10:40 Purple Haze, Flyght Club, Baboom, The =
Airforce;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The games will be split onto 2 smaller pitches on =
Saturday until 3:30pm, and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>briefly on Sunday morning, but the other times will =
be on a larger single</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>pitch. There will not be huge amounts of room on the =
sidelines when two</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>pitches are operating, so please respect the teams =
that are playing and try</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>not to encroach.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>There will be a bar upstairs at the venue, and there =
should be some hot and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>cold food available during the day.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The party will be at TC's in Selly Oak, and =
directions will be given out in the Captains packs.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If anyone has any problems, then give me an e-mail or =
a ring on 07733</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>426124.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thank you for your time and looking forward to the =
weekend, (more than usual)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andy Godber</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Slipdisc</FONT>
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Please note that these start times are now to be amended following some
comments on seedings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Godber [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]
Sent: 05 March 2002 09:21
To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'
Subject: FW: Great Barr Crawl Details



Dear all 

The time has come to fill in some of the blanks about the weekend's 
activities. I am sending a second e-mail, and attaching a 200k file to it 
with directions to the sports venue, but this e-mail has gone to the
individual addresses supplied by the teams. If anyone has any problems
receiving

this file, then let me know as soon as possible, and I can get a text only 
version sent to you ASAP. When you are at the venue on Saturday, I will get 
you some directions to the party venue for later on, and there should be 
plenty of locals to direct you to anywhere you need. 

The seedings for the tournament are listed below, and if there are any huge
inaccuracies, then please let me know as soon as you can, so that something
can be done about it.

1       Bears 1 
2       Whiplash 
3       Purple Haze 
4       Baboom 
5       Slipdisc 
6       The Fish 
7       Uriel 
8       Sublime 
9       Trigger Happy 
10      MMJ 
11      Flyght Club 
12      Block Stack 
13      The Airforce 
14      WAS 
15      Kamaya Maya 
16      Slipdisc 2 
17      Mwnci See 
18      Bears 2 
19      Chuft 
20      Jesters 

There will be a brief Captains Meeting at 8:55am on the Saturday morning, 
but the important thing is to turn up in time for your own first game. There

will be packs available for all the teams, and these can be collected from 
the desk. The first games for teams are as follows: 

9:05 Bears, Mwnci See, Whiplash, Bears 2; 
9:24 Purple Haze, Jesters, Baboom, Chuft; 
9:43 Trigger Happy, Slipdisc 2, Uriel, Kamaya Maya; 
10:02 The Fish, WAS, Slipdisc, Block Stack; 
10:21 Bears 1, Sublime, Whiplash, MMJ; 
10:40 Purple Haze, Flyght Club, Baboom, The Airforce; 

The games will be split onto 2 smaller pitches on Saturday until 3:30pm, and

briefly on Sunday morning, but the other times will be on a larger single 
pitch. There will not be huge amounts of room on the sidelines when two 
pitches are operating, so please respect the teams that are playing and try 
not to encroach. 

There will be a bar upstairs at the venue, and there should be some hot and 
cold food available during the day. 

The party will be at TC's in Selly Oak, and directions will be given out in
the Captains packs. 

If anyone has any problems, then give me an e-mail or a ring on 07733 
426124. 

Thank you for your time and looking forward to the weekend, (more than
usual) 

Andy Godber 
Slipdisc 


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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Andrew Godber 
  [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 05 March 2002 
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  <P><FONT size=2>Dear all</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>The time has come to fill in some of the blanks about the 
  weekend's</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>activities. I am sending a second e-mail, 
  and attaching a 200k file to it</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>with directions to the 
  sports venue, but this e-mail has gone to the individual addresses supplied by 
  the teams. If anyone has any problems receiving</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>this file, then let me know as soon as possible, and I can get 
  a text only</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>version sent to you ASAP. When you are at 
  the venue on Saturday, I will get</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>you some directions 
  to the party venue for later on, and there should be</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>plenty of locals to direct you to anywhere you need.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>The seedings for the tournament are listed below, and if there 
  are any huge inaccuracies, then please let me know as soon as you can, so that 
  something can be done about it.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears 1</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whiplash</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Purple Haze</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Baboom</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Slipdisc</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Fish</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Uriel</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sublime</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Trigger Happy</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MMJ</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght Club</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Block Stack</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Airforce</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WAS</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kamaya Maya</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Slipdisc 2</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mwnci See</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears 2</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>19&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Chuft</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jesters</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>There will be a brief Captains Meeting at 8:55am on the 
  Saturday morning,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>but the important thing is to turn 
  up in time for your own first game. There</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>will be 
  packs available for all the teams, and these can be collected from</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>the desk. The first games for teams are as follows:</FONT> 
  </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>9:05 Bears, Mwnci See, Whiplash, Bears 2;</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>9:24 Purple Haze, Jesters, Baboom, Chuft;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>9:43 
  Trigger Happy, Slipdisc 2, Uriel, Kamaya Maya;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>10:02 
  The Fish, WAS, Slipdisc, Block Stack;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>10:21 Bears 1, 
  Sublime, Whiplash, MMJ;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>10:40 Purple Haze, Flyght 
  Club, Baboom, The Airforce;</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>The games will be split onto 2 smaller pitches on Saturday 
  until 3:30pm, and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>briefly on Sunday morning, but the 
  other times will be on a larger single</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>pitch. There 
  will not be huge amounts of room on the sidelines when two</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>pitches are operating, so please respect the teams that are playing and 
  try</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>not to encroach.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>There will be a bar upstairs at the venue, and there should be 
  some hot and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>cold food available during the 
  day.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>The party will be at TC's in Selly Oak, and directions will be 
  given out in the Captains packs.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>If anyone has any problems, then give me an e-mail or a ring 
  on 07733</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>426124.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Thank you for your time and looking forward to the weekend, 
  (more than usual)</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Andy Godber</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Slipdisc</FONT> 
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Dear all,

Thank you for all your comments on the seedings yesterday, and I have tried
to incorporate them as much as possible. I have now reached a point where a
line has to be drawn, and the schedule sorted. I hope that you are all happy
with the seedings below, and that they all work

1	MMJ	
2	Whiplash	
3	Purple Haze	
4	Baboom	
5	The Fish	
6	Sublime	
7	Bears 1	
8	Slipdisc	
9	Trigger Happy	
10	Kamaya Maya	
11	Flyght Club	
12	Chuft	
13	Block Stack	
14	The Airforce	
15	Slipdisc 2	
16	WAS	
17	Bears 2	
18	Uriel	
19	Mwnci See	
20	Jesters	

These are the start times for the first few games on the two pitches.

9:05		MMJ	Vs	Bears 2		Whiplash	Vs
Uriel
9:24		Purple Haze	Vs	Mwnci See		Baboom	Vs
Jesters
9:43		The Fish	Vs	Block Stack		Sublime	Vs
The Airforce
10:02		Bears 1	Vs	Slipdisc 2		Slipdisc	Vs
WAS
10:21		MMJ	Vs	Trigger Happy		Whiplash	Vs
Kamaya Maya
10:40		Purple Haze	Vs	Flyght Club		Baboom	Vs
Chuft

Apologies to any teams starting early.

I want to re-iterate that games will be going on to about 7pm on the
Saturday night, followed by a few drinks in Selly Oak, but we will have to
start again on the Sunday morning at about 8:45am, as we are up against it
time-wise. It is therefore very important to find out when your first Sunday
game is before you leave on Saturday night. I will send a separate e-mail to
the teams with the general tournament format and rules for you all to look
at.

Thank you for your time,

Andy Godber


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dear all,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thank you for all your comments on the seedings =
yesterday, and I have tried to incorporate them as much as possible. I =
have now reached a point where a line has to be drawn, and the schedule =
sorted. I hope that you are all happy with the seedings below, and that =
they all work</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
MMJ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Whiplash&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Purple =
Haze&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Baboom&nbsp; =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
Fish&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sublime =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears 1 =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Slipdisc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>9&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Trigger =
Happy&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>10&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kamaya =
Maya&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>11&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght =
Club&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>12&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Chuft&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>13&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Block =
Stack&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
Airforce&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Slipdisc =
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>16&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
WAS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>17&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears 2 </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>18&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Uriel&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>19&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mwnci =
See&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>20&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jesters </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>These are the start times for the first few games on =
the two pitches.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>9:05&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MMJ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears 2 =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Whiplash&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Uriel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>9:24&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Purple =
Haze&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mwnci =
See&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Baboom&nbsp; =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jesters</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>9:43&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
Fish&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Block Stack&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sublime =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Airforce</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>10:02&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bears 1 =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Slipdisc =
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Slipdisc&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; WAS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>10:21&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MMJ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Trigger Happy&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Whiplash&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kamaya Maya</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>10:40&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Purple =
Haze&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght =
Club&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Baboom&nbsp; Vs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Chuft</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Apologies to any teams starting early.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I want to re-iterate that games will be going on to =
about 7pm on the Saturday night, followed by a few drinks in Selly Oak, =
but we will have to start again on the Sunday morning at about 8:45am, =
as we are up against it time-wise. It is therefore very important to =
find out when your first Sunday game is before you leave on Saturday =
night. I will send a separate e-mail to the teams with the general =
tournament format and rules for you all to look at.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thank you for your time,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andy Godber</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ___________________________________</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Andrew Godber</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Building Engineering Midlands</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The Arup Campus, Blythe Gate, Blythe Valley =
Park</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Solihull, West Midlands. B90 8AE</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; T: +44 (0) 121 213 3137</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; andrew.godber@arup.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; www.arup.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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well that's very informative.

any chance of posting a list of those miserable sinners who have failed to
stump up the moolah?

any chance of posting a list of those teams who are confirmed?

all totally non- confrontational of course.

Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arun sharma [mailto:asharma43@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 05 March 2002 17:14
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Indoor Nationals
> 
> 
> Right,
> 
> Some teams haven't paid for indoor nationals.  If they are 
> not received 
> tomorrow AM - you will loose your place.  Thursday AM is too late!!
> 
> Reserve team get your cheques holstered!!
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Following teams qualified

Mexican Horse Bandits
WYWLAS
OddJob
Mud Culture
Red
Yo Mama
Purple Haze
Trigger Happy
Teamshark
Urscumug
Bears 1
Skunks
Space Monkeys
Blue Arse Flies
Hammerage
Whiplash
Positive Mojo
STD 1
Discult
SNOAP
Angels
Playthings

Reserves - YBK and Slipdisc - get me a cheque asap and you can have the two 
spare spots.

Sharma




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Couple of questions which I think I know the answers to, but want to check:

1) We had two teams at regionals, and now one of them could be going to
Nationals, can we switch players from the second team to the first team?
(Expected answer: no)
2) Can we add players who are rostered, but didn't play at regionals to our
nationals squad? (Yes?)
3) Is it too late to roster more players for Nationals? (Expected answer:
yes)

These are the few blanks that I would like filling in for my inadequate
brain. Please can all answers be spoken and not screamed/shouted?

Andy Godber
Slipdisc

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Sent: 06 March 2002 14:50
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Indoor Nationals


Following teams qualified

Mexican Horse Bandits
WYWLAS
OddJob
Mud Culture
Red
Yo Mama
Purple Haze
Trigger Happy
Teamshark
Urscumug
Bears 1
Skunks
Space Monkeys
Blue Arse Flies
Hammerage
Whiplash
Positive Mojo
STD 1
Discult
SNOAP
Angels
Playthings

Reserves - YBK and Slipdisc - get me a cheque asap and you can have the two 
spare spots.

Sharma




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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Couple of questions which I think I know the answers =
to, but want to check:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>1) We had two teams at regionals, and now one of them =
could be going to Nationals, can we switch players from the second team =
to the first team? (Expected answer: no)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>2) Can we add players who are rostered, but didn't =
play at regionals to our nationals squad? (Yes?)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>3) Is it too late to roster more players for =
Nationals? (Expected answer: yes)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>These are the few blanks that I would like filling in =
for my inadequate brain. Please can all answers be spoken and not =
screamed/shouted?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andy Godber</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Slipdisc</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: arun sharma [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:asharma43@hotmail.com">mailto:asharma43@hotmail.com</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 06 March 2002 14:50</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Indoor Nationals</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Following teams qualified</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mexican Horse Bandits</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>WYWLAS</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>OddJob</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Mud Culture</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Red</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yo Mama</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Purple Haze</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Trigger Happy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Teamshark</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Urscumug</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bears 1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Skunks</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Space Monkeys</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Blue Arse Flies</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hammerage</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Whiplash</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Positive Mojo</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>STD 1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Discult</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>SNOAP</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Angels</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Playthings</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Reserves - YBK and Slipdisc - get me a cheque asap =
and you can have the two </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>spare spots.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sharma</FONT>
</P>
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Can anyone from Hultimate please get in contact with me or if some one =
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Please reply to this address, cheers

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Hi there,
        this is going to be a one day, indoor, open tournament with all
proceeds going to the charity Raleigh International.  Its taking place on 
Saturday 20th April at the Grantham Meres Leisure Centre on the two centre 
courts.  I've got spaces for 16 teams so if you want to come along i need to 
know by the 1st April.  Email me on thwaite2k@hotmail.com or phone on 01476 
562726.

Its only 50 pounds per team, and remember its all for a good cause.  It'll 
be a fun day out with some crazy prizes, look forward to hearing from you,
Mike> Mange Le Foufou.


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Hi there,
        this is going to be a one day, indoor, open tournament with all
proceeds going to the charity Raleigh International.  Its taking place on
Saturday 20th April at the Grantham Meres Leisure Centre on the two centre 
courts.  I've got spaces for 16 teams so if you want to come along i need to 
know by the 1st April.  Email me on thwaite2k@hotmail.com or phone on 01476 
562726.

Its only 50 pounds per team, and remember its all for a good cause.  It'll 
be a fun day out with some crazy prizes, look forward to hearing from you,
Mike> Mange Le Foufou.



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Andrew,
 
I believe, having spoken to Si at regionals exactly about this, that the
plan is to keep the rules the same. So in answer to your questions:
 
1. Can you move players - No
2. Can you add already rostered players to your squad (assuming they didn't
play for any other team - including your second team, or any team who didn't
qualify - and assuming that when you say rostered, you mean to your team) -
Yes
3. Can you add players to your roster - In theory Yes, assuming they didn't
play for any other team and are not already rostered for another team that
competed at Regionals. However this then assumes that you can get them
through the UKUltimate rostering and paying your money stages. And they do
have to have been accepted, and not just added via the website. (as does
every body else)
 
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Godber [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]
Sent: 06 March 2002 15:25
To: 'arun sharma'; 'Robert Owen'; Simon Weeks (E-mail)
Cc: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'
Subject: RE: Indoor Nationals



Couple of questions which I think I know the answers to, but want to check: 

1) We had two teams at regionals, and now one of them could be going to
Nationals, can we switch players from the second team to the first team?
(Expected answer: no)

2) Can we add players who are rostered, but didn't play at regionals to our
nationals squad? (Yes?) 
3) Is it too late to roster more players for Nationals? (Expected answer:
yes) 

These are the few blanks that I would like filling in for my inadequate
brain. Please can all answers be spoken and not screamed/shouted?

Andy Godber 
Slipdisc 

-----Original Message----- 
From: arun sharma [ mailto:asharma43@hotmail.com
<mailto:asharma43@hotmail.com> ] 
Sent: 06 March 2002 14:50 
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk 
Subject: Indoor Nationals 


Following teams qualified 

Mexican Horse Bandits 
WYWLAS 
OddJob 
Mud Culture 
Red 
Yo Mama 
Purple Haze 
Trigger Happy 
Teamshark 
Urscumug 
Bears 1 
Skunks 
Space Monkeys 
Blue Arse Flies 
Hammerage 
Whiplash 
Positive Mojo 
STD 1 
Discult 
SNOAP 
Angels 
Playthings 

Reserves - YBK and Slipdisc - get me a cheque asap and you can have the two 
spare spots. 

Sharma 




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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=850311716-06032002>Andrew,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=850311716-06032002>I 
believe, having spoken to Si at regionals exactly about this, that the plan is 
to keep the rules the same. So in answer to your questions:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=850311716-06032002>1. Can 
you move players - No</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=850311716-06032002>2. Can 
you add already rostered players to your squad (assuming they didn't play for 
any other team -&nbsp;including your second team, or any team who didn't qualify 
- and assuming that when you say rostered, you mean to your team) - 
Yes</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=850311716-06032002>3. Can 
you add players to your roster - In theory Yes, assuming they didn't play for 
any other team and are not already rostered for another team that competed at 
Regionals. However this then assumes that you can get them through the 
UKUltimate rostering and paying your money stages. And they do have to have been 
accepted, and not just added via the website. (as does every body 
else)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=850311716-06032002>Chris</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Andrew Godber 
  [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 06 March 2002 
  15:25<BR><B>To:</B> 'arun sharma'; 'Robert Owen'; Simon Weeks 
  (E-mail)<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
  Indoor Nationals<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <P><FONT size=2>Couple of questions which I think I know the answers to, but 
  want to check:</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>1) We had two teams at regionals, and now one of them could be 
  going to Nationals, can we switch players from the second team to the first 
  team? (Expected answer: no)</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>2) Can we add players who are rostered, but didn't play at 
  regionals to our nationals squad? (Yes?)</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>3) Is it too 
  late to roster more players for Nationals? (Expected answer: yes)</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>These are the few blanks that I would like filling in for my 
  inadequate brain. Please can all answers be spoken and not 
  screamed/shouted?</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Andy Godber</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Slipdisc</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: arun 
  sharma [<A 
  href="mailto:asharma43@hotmail.com">mailto:asharma43@hotmail.com</A>]</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: 06 March 2002 14:50</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: 
  britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Indoor 
  Nationals</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>Following teams qualified</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Mexican Horse Bandits</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>WYWLAS</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>OddJob</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Mud Culture</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Red</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Yo Mama</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Purple 
  Haze</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Trigger Happy</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Teamshark</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Urscumug</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Bears 1</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Skunks</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Space 
  Monkeys</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Blue Arse Flies</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Hammerage</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Whiplash</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Positive Mojo</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>STD 1</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Discult</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>SNOAP</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Angels</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Playthings</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Reserves - YBK and Slipdisc - get me a cheque asap and you can 
  have the two </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>spare spots.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Sharma</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR>
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ONLY FIVE DAYS TO THE DEADLINE AND ONLY  - 12 CHEQUES RECIEVED...
ARE YOU SURE YOUR TEAM IS COMING?

at least 4 more spaces NEED to be filled !!!

Sam

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It looks like some of our info sources could do with a little
enhancement so that visitors can try to plan their trip!

Wayne

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Mon, 4 Mar 2002, 19:38:31 
 <mailto:parkcityskibums@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Thanks Wayne.  The ukultimate.com site doesn't have anything listed for this
>year past early May.  Any idea when and/or where the Co-ed Tour (II and/or
>III) might be?  The Co-ed Tour I doesn't have a website or a contact listed.
>
>Vicky
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wayne Retter" <wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
>To: <parkcityskibums@earthlink.net>
>Cc: <info@ukultimate.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:27 PM
>Subject: Re: ultimate
>
>
>Vicky,
>
>http://www.ukultimate.com contains the UK Ultimate diary.
>
>Off the top of my head, the British Open at the beginning of June (if
>you're here then) would be a good one. And/or maybe the CoEd event.
>
>There should be links to contacts/websites from the Diary.
>
>If you know roughly where you're going to be, there's a 'find a team'
>function that should link you up with people for practice sessions, etc.
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>Regards
>Wayne
>
>Sun, 3 Mar 2002, 17:52:16
> <mailto:parkcityskibums@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>    Wayne,
>>
>>    My husband and I are planning a holiday to the UK in June and are
>looking to
>>    pick up at an ultimate tournament. What are our chances? Best
>tournament to
>>    try? Anything going on during june, ultimate-wise?
>>
>>    Any info you could share will be appreciated.
>>
>>    Vicky Bushnell
>>    (Jim Fitlow)

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Who were the other 2 teams that qualified, but aren't going ?

Wed, 6 Mar 2002, by arun sharma <mailto:asharma43@hotmail.com>;
 Subject: Indoor Nationals
>Following teams qualified
>
>Mexican Horse Bandits
>WYWLAS
>OddJob
>Mud Culture
>Red
>Yo Mama
>Purple Haze
>Trigger Happy
>Teamshark
>Urscumug
>Bears 1
>Skunks
>Space Monkeys
>Blue Arse Flies
>Hammerage
>Whiplash
>Positive Mojo
>STD 1
>Discult
>SNOAP
>Angels
>Playthings
>
>Reserves - YBK and Slipdisc - get me a cheque asap and you can have the two 
>spare spots.
>
>Sharma

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Mike,
where is this being held?
I do not want directions, just the city would be nice.

Ta.
Steve

--- Original Message ---
From: "Mike Thwaite" <thwaite2k@hotmail.com>
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Ultimate Raleigh!!
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 16:08h


Hi there,
        this is going to be a one day, indoor, open tournament with all
proceeds going to the charity Raleigh International.  Its taking place on
Saturday 20th April at the Grantham Meres Leisure Centre on the two centre 
courts.  

Mike> Mange Le Foufou.


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Just a thought - but maybe the word "Grantham" may be a clue?


>===== Original Message From "steve henderson" <steve_h@t-motion.co.uk> =====
>Mike,
>where is this being held?
>I do not want directions, just the city would be nice.
>
>Ta.
>Steve
>
>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Mike Thwaite" <thwaite2k@hotmail.com>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Ultimate Raleigh!!
>Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 16:08h
>
>
>Hi there,
>        this is going to be a one day, indoor, open tournament with all
>proceeds going to the charity Raleigh International.  Its taking place on
>Saturday 20th April at the Grantham Meres Leisure Centre on the two centre
>courts.
>
>Mike> Mange Le Foufou.
>
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OKAY OKAY
before I get any more messages about the Grantham sports centre being in Grantham...

I looked Grantham up and all I found was:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/rushbyowen/

I could not believe this was the right place.

:o)

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Just a thought - but maybe the word "Grantham" may be a clue?


>===== Original Message From "steve henderson" <steve_h@t-motion.co.uk> =====
>Mike,
>where is this being held?
>I do not want directions, just the city would be nice.
>
>Ta.
>Steve
>
>--- Original Message ---
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>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Ultimate Raleigh!!
>Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 16:08h
>
>
>Hi there,
>        this is going to be a one day, indoor, open tournament with all
>proceeds going to the charity Raleigh International.  Its taking place on
>Saturday 20th April at the Grantham Meres Leisure Centre on the two centre
>courts.
>
>Mike> Mange Le Foufou.
>
>
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The Flaming Monkeys will be holding their First Tournament on the Weekend of 
the 11th of May, in Newcastle.

The 16 teams will play for the right to call themselves
the daddy (a name many claim for themselves).

Entry is a low low price of £65, this includes First class accommodation 
(floor space) and a night of partying on the Saturday.

A bargin I hear you cry!


Full details should be on the BUF Website within a matter of days

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Now dorset is a lovely place, especially in the summer with it's golden 
beaches and lush green fields. There's just one problem it doesn't have 
any kind of frisbe club. So is any one intrested in paying frisbe over 
the summer (may-sept) in the weymouth/dorchester area just for fun and 
to keep disc fit? If so let me know and we'll see if we cant all meet 
up for a chuck on the beach or something.

Nath


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Allison (Fly Ultimate),

I play for Block Stack and the shirts look great.  I'm ordering kit for 
brunel uni and was wondering how much it would cost from Fly.

I've looked on the website and this is what I can figure for pricing:

Number of shirts: 30+
Shirt: 				£15
generate 2 color print: 	£30
Printing 2 colors per shirt: 	£0.9

What applicable taxes apply (just VAT)? what is postage and packaging cost?

How much do names and numbers on the back cost?

How much would it cost to generate and embroider the university crest? 
although the quality of shirts is not always as good as yours, our 
suppliers do not charge for this.

Thank you very much.

Kevin
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Hi Britdisc,

I'm also keen to play at the Women's if there are any teams 
out there that need a pick up.

Liz

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Subject: Slurrey Slingers "one day wonder" 
From: "Stewart Fudge" <ce81sf@surrey.ac.uk>
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Dear all,

We here at the university of Surrey are holding our 2nd ever tournament.
It is an open, indoor tournament and those of you who came last year will
know that it is just a one day affair.  The price is £35 per team and it is
on the 28th of April.  It was a great day last year and alot of teams
commented on the fact that although it was outdoor season, it was a breath
of fresh air to have a one day tournament.  If anyone is interested, please
let me know.

Stewart Fudge
Captain of the Slurrey Slingers
ce81sf@surrey.ac.uk



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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:00:59 -0000 
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Hi,
	Just wondered if there were any Leeds players who would be
interested in putting up seven impoverished players for the Saturday (maybe
Friday) of the Indoor Nationals. We will of course buy our gracious hosts
food and large amounts of alcohol.

Thanks

Bisto

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From: "Will Parker" <willparker77@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Bourne on the 11th May
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 16:50:00 +0000
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So you want to combine ultimate, good music, beer and guaranteed sun?

This is an open invitation to a tournament being held in Bournemouth on the 
11th/12th May.

You'll be playing on quality fields surrounded by woods with excellent 
facilities and we're gonna be getting in some DJs and bands to help along 
the atmosphere. We can cope with up to 24 teams, but as there is Rotterdam, 
and the Who's your Daddy tourny (in Newcastle) on the same weekend, I'm 
planning for a more intimate 12-16 team tournament - so you'll be playing 
plenty of teams and getting quality pitch time.

Camping is free and on site. Plans are for a cheap food option available all 
day. Also, so you don't have to move too far to get to your tents, it'll be 
an outdoors party (it's always sunny in Bournemouth) with bands and DJs.

I'm also really tempted to do an extra day on the Monday and run a mini 
beach ultimate tournament at the gorgeous Studland Bay. If you're interested 
in that, then let me know.

The cost of all this is only 100 quid per team. Please send cheques to 
William Parker
Flat4, 6 Rushton Crescent, Bournemouth, BH3 7AF


Will
Druids/DHB Bournemouth/Yo Mama!

PS. I'm away all next week, so won't reply to emails until Monday 18th March

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Subject: Last Indoor Tournament!!!!
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Hi there,
         another update about the one day Charity Ultimate Tournament thats 
been run in Grantham at the Meres Leisure Centre on the 21st April, thats a 
Sunday.  Its an open event so all are welcome and its only now 40 pounds per 
team, and remember it is for charity!

Places are starting to fill up fast so get you team name in by the 1st April 
to ensure a place on the day.  Its guaranteed to be a great day out, with 
some cool prizes!!

If you've got any questions email me on thwaite2k@hotmail.com or phone on 
01476 562726, cheers Mike (monge le foufou).





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I understand that there's a few players in Bournemouth... is that too
far?

I also understand that there are plans for a tournament there too in
early/mid May.

Wayne


Fri, 8 Mar 2002, by Nathan Fowler <mailto:nfowler@orange.net>;
 Subject: frisbe
>Now dorset is a lovely place, especially in the summer with it's golden 
>beaches and lush green fields. There's just one problem it doesn't have 
>any kind of frisbe club. So is any one intrested in paying frisbe over 
>the summer (may-sept) in the weymouth/dorchester area just for fun and 
>to keep disc fit? If so let me know and we'll see if we cant all meet 
>up for a chuck on the beach or something.
>
>Nath

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 Hi 
Following is a list of the teams that have been entered into Tour 1 so far.

 

1)      STD Ultimate                          open

2)      Whey                                      open

3)      Bears mix                               open

4)      Bad Habits                             open

5)      Blue Arse Flies 1                    open

6)      Blue Arse Flies 2                    open  

7)      Red                                         open

8)      JB7                                          open

9)      Mute                                        open

10)   Albatross                                open

11)   LeedsLeedsLeeds                 open

12)   Flyght Club 1                         open

13)   Flyght Club 2                         open

14)   Druids                                    open

15)  Rats of Nimh                           open

16)  Sublime                                   open

 

Any queries please contact me.

  

Cheers 

 

Matt&Adam



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&nbsp;Hi 
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk  Mon Mar 11 12:03:28 2002
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Subject: Longest recorded throw of the year so far?
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Hi Britdisc,

A couple of weekends ago the Bongos hosted a disc sports weekend at the 
Green Park Centre in Aylesbury.

On the Sunday afternoon a max distance competition was held.

A flat distance range was measured and marked up.

Distances were measured from the marked line running up the centre of the 
driving range, perpendicular to the throw line.
There was a slight wind helping the throwers.

To my best knowledge the distances recorded are the first of 2002 (disc 
class-golf). If anyone knows different please let me know.

Here are the results:
BIG ARM DISTANCE COMPETITION

Disc Class - Golf

Top 8 Throws
126.0m - Sammy Neilsen  (Innova Leopard)
120.0m - Jester Wilson (Innova Valkyrie)
111.0m - Derek Robins  (Innova Eagle )
111.0m - Tony Wakeford  (Millennium JLS)
110.0m - Neil 'Bruce' Webber  (Discraft Z-XS)
109.0m - Duncan Hartshorne  (KC Teebird 174g)
100.0m - Rob Capper (Discraft XS)
95.0m   - Ben Ayres  (Discraft XL 167g)

Great throw Sammy!

*no women took part in the womens distance division.

Are any up and coming Ultimate tournaments running Big Arm Competitions - 
Ultrastar Class and Golf?

All the results from the Green Park Centre have been archived and can be 
viewed at http://www.obmegazine.com/resultsdoublesmp2002.htm

The Green Park Centre will be hosting more action on June 8/9. For more 
info contact me - mailto:richard@discology.co.uk 07989 406 256

Next UK Disc Golf Tournament
Quarry Park Disc Golf, Leamington Spa, Warwicks, 23/24 March.
The tournament is a 'Handicap' format.
Everyone welcome.
For more info contact the TD - Derek Robins discgolf@freeuk.com  01926 864136

Have a nice day.

Richard


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From: "positive mojo" <the_cube_2002@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Caledonia's Ultimate Beach Event
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:43:44 +0000
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Hi Everyone,

This is the second year that Aberdeen is hosting Britains ONLY beach 
tournament - The C.U.B.E. (caledonia's ultimate beach event).

It is an OPEN tournament (5 aside), following the rules laid out by BULA 
(www.beachultimate.org).

Team entry fee =  £35.

The events diary is in the process of being corrected... cos' unfortunately 
the original dates clashed with the student outdoors.  NOW the C.U.B.E. is 
being held on the...

27th/28th APRIL.

So, if you want to put up the challenge to be Britains beach ultimate 
champions, or if you simply want to come and experience scottish 
hospitality, great ultimate, sun (hopefully), and gorgeous soft sand 
surrounded by dunes...  then email the_cube_2002@hotmail.com  or visit

          www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/thecube/

...and sign up on the website.

We are looking for 16 teams...  and already 10 have signed up, so act 
quickly!

NSC Dave

Cube Coordinator.
Positive Mojo - Aberdeen.



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Right,

another team has dropped out of national indoors this w/end.  I don't know 
all the finishing places in the regionals so If you want to go let me know 
by 5pm.  A decision as to which team get the slot will be made then and you 
will be told.

Teams qualified

Mexican Horse Bandits
WYWLAS
OddJob
Red
Yo Mama
Purple Haze
Trigger Happy
Teamshark
Urscumug
Bears 1
Skunks
Space Monkeys
Blue Arse Flies
Hammerage
Whiplash
Positive Mojo
STD 1
Discult
SNOAP
Angels
YBK
Flight Club
Night Fever

Arun


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Subject: Coed tour 1
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Can I ask if anyone knows where coed tour 1 is, in the 
planning stages.  Are there current bids which are being 
considered or is it simply that no current bids have been 
submitted.  

Very interested,
Ben
Mootones/OW

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Hello again,

A big thank you to all teams who came, played, probably had a quiet,
justified moan about pitch sizes, drank, and were generally all nice people.
An even bigger thank you to Simon Statham and the rest of the Slipdisc and
WAS players who all helped out a hell of a lot for the whole weekend,
especially anyone who turned up at 8:30 both days. It all seemed to go very
well, and all of the people helping Simon and I did a fantastic job - thanks
quickly to Simon from Janitors and the Bears girls, and anyone else who
helped out with scoring.

The finals of the Cup, Plate and 'Bernie the Gnome' sections of the
tournament produced three thrilling games of ultimate, played out in an
excellent spirit between the teams involved. Without much further ado, here
are the results from the weekend:

20. Mwnci See
19. Bears 2
18. Uriel
17. WAS (Winners of Bernie the Gnome)
16. Jesters
15. Chuft
14. Bears 1
13. Slipdisc 1
12. The Airforce
11.The Fish
10. Whiplash
9. Trigger Happy (Winners of the Small Balti Dish)
8. Slipdisc 2
7. Kamaya Maya
6. Flyght Club
5. Purple Haze
4. Block Stack & Two Smoking Hammers
3. Baboom
2. Mild Mannered Janitors
1. Sublime (Winners of the Large Balti Dish)

Overly complicated, hugely democratic Spirit of the Game Award: Block Stack
(Recording an average 4.682 spirit points out of 5 for the whole tournament,
and only 0.04 ahead of Bears 2)

Norman the Layout Gnome Layout Award: Trigger Happy (Given to the whole team
for their efforts in the plate semi-final, and reinforced by Steve's
fantastic (almost) match-winning layout in the Plate Final)

Big congratulations to Sublime, Trigger Happy, WAS and Block Stack for your
wins. I hope that everyone enjoyed themselves, and we are looking forward to
planning the next couple of events in Birmingham.

And thank you again,

Thank you,

> ___________________________________
> Andrew Godber
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31, Fenton Road
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Hello again,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">A big thank you to all teams who came, =
played, probably had a quiet, justified moan about pitch sizes, drank, =
and were generally all nice people. An even bigger thank you to Simon =
Statham and the rest of the Slipdisc and WAS players who all helped out =
a hell of a lot for the whole weekend, especially anyone who turned up =
at 8:30 both days. It all seemed to go very well, and all of the people =
helping Simon and I did a fantastic job - thanks quickly to Simon from =
Janitors and the Bears girls, and anyone else who helped out with =
scoring.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">The finals of the Cup, Plate and =
'Bernie the Gnome' sections of the tournament produced three thrilling =
games of ultimate, played out in an excellent spirit between the teams =
involved. Without much further ado, here are the results from the =
weekend:</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">20. Mwnci See</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">19. Bears 2</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">18. Uriel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">17. WAS (Winners of Bernie the =
Gnome)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">16. Jesters</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">15. Chuft</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">14. Bears 1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">13. Slipdisc 1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">12. The Airforce</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">11.The Fish</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">10. Whiplash</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">9. Trigger Happy (Winners of the =
Small Balti Dish)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">8. Slipdisc 2</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">7. Kamaya Maya</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">6. Flyght Club</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">5. Purple Haze</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">4. Block Stack &amp; Two Smoking =
Hammers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">3. Baboom</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">2. Mild Mannered Janitors</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1. Sublime (Winners of the Large =
Balti Dish)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Overly complicated, hugely democratic =
Spirit of the Game Award: Block Stack (Recording an average 4.682 =
spirit points out of 5 for the whole tournament, and only 0.04 ahead of =
Bears 2)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Norman the Layout Gnome Layout Award: =
Trigger Happy (Given to the whole team for their efforts in the plate =
semi-final, and reinforced by Steve's fantastic (almost) match-winning =
layout in the Plate Final)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Big congratulations to Sublime, =
Trigger Happy, WAS and Block Stack for your wins. I hope that everyone =
enjoyed themselves, and we are looking forward to planning the next =
couple of events in Birmingham.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">And thank you again,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thank you,</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">___________________________________</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial">Andrew Godber</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Slipdisc</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">31, Fenton =
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<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Acocks Green</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Birmingham</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">B27 =
6HY<B></B></FONT><B></B>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">T: +44 (0) 121 706 =
2090</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">M: +44 (0) 7733 =
426124</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">andrew.godber@arup.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">a</FONT><FONT =
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Thanks very much to the following for receipt of membership fees
electronically transferred 13 Feb - 25 Feb  2002. 

 

Reg.No.    Name

F200         Bagshaw, Laura

F594         Catlin, Andy (Candy)

F9             Church, Simon

S253         Clymo, Ben

F331         Davey, Wayne

F255         Gillham, Andrew

F243         Hallett, Peter

S171         HOMEWOOD, MATT 

F660         Jacobs, Arne

F345         Leenderts Alexander

F136         LLoyd, Gary 

F366         MacKay, David 

S109         Mewse, Carl 

F38           O'Kane, Barry

F835         Passmore, Andrew 

F754         Pioli, Sue

F146         Retter, Wayne

S39           Sealy, Dave

F304         Sheppard Mungo 

F193         Sheridan, Dan 

F61           Steve Henderson 

F731         Thomson, Roger 

F179         Vaughan, Andrew 

F287         Weeks, Si

 

NB

Several players have not included their name or registration no. &
therefore it is not possible to acknowledge these payments. Please get
in touch with me ASAP if you made an electronic bank transfer payment 15
- 25 Feb & you are not on this list. I will require several further
details in order to (hopefully) track your payment!

 

As soon as I have details of electronic bank transfer payments made from
26 Feb onwards I shall, of course, publish a list to acknowedge receipt.

 

Cheques for UK Ultimate Membership received with thanks 

24 Feb - 08 March

 

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S756         Armitage, John 

F245         Balls, Steve

F257         Bolton, Joseph 

S29          Bradley, Alistair (Al)

S176         Bradshaw, Ian 

S811         Bridge, Jamie 

F205         Candlin, Tom 

F889         Chesworth, Andy 

F788         Christofi, Andrew 

F224         Cooper, Phil

S318         Cornelius, Will 

S96          cosgrove, cormac

F556         Cox, David

R349         Cresey, Jayne 

F15           Crick, Ben (Stroke)

F88           Dall, Sasha (ODB)

S336         Daniels, Robert

S847         Dewis, Katherine 

F8            Donkersloot, Jakob 

F22           Dray, Nick

F430         Elliott, Colin

S236         Everett, Richard 

S194         Ford, Graeme

F165         Furlong, Patrick

F278         Greenhalgh, Mark

F537         Haggerstone, Anne-Louise 

S701         Hall, Andrew

F221         Harris, Stephanie

S27          Hims, Rich (Rich)

F187         Hunter, Steven 

F185         JEWELL, TARA

F40           Jones, Gareth 

S347         Karfoot, Robin

F612         Kemp, Dora

S405         Lawrence, Philip

F17           LING, JULIA (DINGA)

F113         Longman, Emma

S188         Lord, Sam

F825         Lutchmiah, Sanjay 

F369         Macrae, Fraser

F719         McDonald, Mark

S834         Moore, Lucy 

F190         Mullinger, Stuart

F312         O'Donnell, Liz

S419         Oxendale, David 

S91          Parkinson, Rachel

S80          payne , victoria

F868         Pearce, Jonathan 

S103         Richardson, Philip 

F186         Rose, Darren 

F4            Russell, Justin

F565         Sankurie, Pye (Kurie)

F5            Saunders, Richard 

S518         Scott, Michael (Mike)

F173         Shipley, Steve

S467         Smith, Alison (Ali)

F880         stevenson, steven

F261         Thornton, Andrew

F789         Townsend, Simon 

S493         Twohig, Helen

S21          Webb, Garry 

S300         Wilcox, Hannah 

S52          Winter, Anna 

S793         zloch, melissa

 

 

 

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Sorry for the cross posting.

This year's junior worlds will take place in Latvia, July 8-13. Anybody born
in 1983 or younger is eligible to play, so that does include a number of
first year University students. If you are interested in playing for GB
Juniors (even if you have only been playing for a few months), please email
me ASAP.
We currently feel that we do not have enough juniors that can play in this
tournament due to the timing of it (within school time for the second year
running). If we suddenly get inundated with juniors, we do have the option
of putting in a girls team too. They are hoping to get 12 junior teams and 5
girls teams, but the US and Canada are looking for a large turnout and will
be influenced by whether any GB teams are going. The cost of the tournament
(including flights, accommodation and tournament) will be in the region of
£350 unless we find some sponsorship.

On a similar note, is there anybody willing to act as coach and accompany
the junior squad to Latvia? We've had a couple of experienced coaches say
they are willing to help out with the training, but again due to the timing
of the tournament, are unable to go to this tournament. We have expressed
our dismay with the organisers and EFDF / WFDF for not finding a slot that
falls within each country's summer vacation.

It will be a great shame for our juniors and UK Ultimate as a whole if we
can't at least provide the opportunity of playing Ultimate at this
international level.

Kevin Lowe.
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Results from Devils Heaven 2002, an indoor tournament that was held in
Enschede (NL) last weekend featuring BAF and Fever...

Balti
BAF 34
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                    Hinderik de Keijzer                                                                                    
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RESULTS of this year's Devils' Heaven
(Enschede, the Netherlands; March, 9-10)

Double victory:
  Blue Arse Flies: Spirit and Tournament

2 Circus on the run
3 Crunch
4 Disc Devils Twente 1
5 Gronical Dizziness
6 Sky Hawks
7 XLR8RS
8 BFrisBee2's
9 Sesquidistus
10 African Killer Bees
11 Flying High
12 Light City Flyers
13 Indiscutabel
14 Fever
15 Disc Devils Twente 2
16 Arendonkse UFO's

All results can be found on the website.

We hope to show you some pictures soon
and present a lost&found list to the teams.

We hope to see you all (well... 16 teams ;-)
next year.

Hinderik

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Slipdisc have almost doubled in size over the past 12 months and are now in a
position to field 2 outdoor teams this summer.  Unfortunately we are about 2-3
players short of an ideal squad size for Tour 1.  So, we are looking for people
(preferably Midlands based so you can come to practice, but anyone really) who
do not have a team for the Tour or for whatever reason can't play the other 3
Tours.

Because of the rostering system you would obviously have to register with
Slipdisc in order to be eligible to play for us in the Tour.  Therefore, you
would not be able to play for any other team in Tour events.  We would welcome
Midlands based players to come play for us and train with us for the whole
summer, but for people further away I think for logistics sake the invite would
have to be for Tour 1 only.

Any standard of player is welcome, although as we don't know you you'd be
playing in our 2nd team in Tour 1 at least.

So, if you're without a team for the summer or are off travelling after April or
something, please give me an e-mail and we'll see you at Tour 1.

Cheers

Si.
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Thanks for this:

Information for those considering picking-up for us!


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"Kevin Lowe" <Kev_Lowe@hotmail.com> on 12/03/2002 11:39:12

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Subject:  Re: Looking for 2 or 3 players for Tour 1 and maybe beyond



Simon,

You are allowed one guest per tour tournament, so unless you have someone
else filling that role, you could have an unrostered player (so long as they
are not rostered to another team). They are then free to play with any other
unrostered team, guest for another rostered team, or even become a rostered
player. The only rule is that they can't currently be rostered with any
other team that is present.

Kevin.
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Haze...

I think he was from your team, but a guy came upto me on Saturday (at the toury
in Brum) saying that he lived in Birmingham but went to your uni.  He didn't
have a team for the summer and would like to train with us and come and play.
Unfortuanately I was busy at the time and asked him to come back later, he never
did!  Don't know his name and can't remember what he looked like!  Can you get
him to mail me?!!

Si.

Slipdisc.




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Dear All,

I'm sure that there must be a few Ultimate players out there who are
curious to try out disc golf on a proper course. Your ideal opportunity
is just 11 days away.

There is a fun tournament at Quarry Park, Leamington Spa on March 23-24
and you can play either or both days. It is the only handicap tournament
on the schedule so who knows you might even win!

Quarry Park is 15 acres of grassland and woodland bought by me nearly 8
years ago and devoted solely to disc golf. Over 1500 trees have been
planted to create a challenging and beautiful 18 hole course on the
banks of the river Avon. You can get some idea of the course at
www.quarrypark.co.uk or go to
www.discgolfphotos.com/gallerypages/england/quarrypark2001/index.htm

or
www.discgolfphotos.com/gallerypages/england/quarryparkgallery97_2000/index.htm

The course is fairly beginner friendly as there are no really long
holes - the longest is 106m.

Players of all standards are welcome and I am particularly keen to have
new players along. I realise that some people cannot make both days, so
there will be separate results and awards for each day as well as for
the whole weekend. If you wish to play only one day you can pay half
price.

The basic cost is 15 pounds for the weekend. Subtract 4 pounds if you
are not earning, subtract 1 pound if you pay in advance. This includes
sandwiches and soft drinks on both days. Camping is available for a
pound a night. If you can let me know in advance if you plan to attend
that will be a great help as I have to make sure I have a handicap
worked out for you as well as buying provisions for lunch.

If you have any questions please get in touch via e-mail to
course@frisbee.co.uk or call me at home on 01926 864136

Dels Disc store will be open of course and you will have your last
chance to pick up discs at 2001 prices. Manufacturers have raised their
prices for 2002 and this will be reflected from April. If you can't be
at the tournament you may wish to use the mail order facility. Contact
me via discgolf@freeuk.com or on 01926 864136.

Regular plastic will probably go from 7 to 7.50
Millenium, KC, Elite X plastic will probably go from 8 to 9
Champion Edition and Elite Z will probably go from 11 to 11.50

Hope to hear from you soon,

Del

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Is there anyone who would like to play in the Nottingham women's indoors =
on 23rd / 24th March but doesn't have a team?
We would love to have a couple of extra players if anyone is interested.
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From: "Matthew Allen" <mta99@breathe.com>
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Subject: Birmingham Beginners Lost Property
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After a slight delay, here is a list of lost property from the =
Birmingham Beginners Tournament.

=20

  a.. yellow ultrastar "its a scream"
  b.. ear defenders
  c.. drug store cowboys shirt
  d.. grey c17 sweatshirt
  e.. serious wooly hat
  f.. nike shorts
  g.. out of date yellow card
  h.. billabong cap
=20

If you wish to claim any of the above, the contact me to arrange =
collection:

=20

mta99@breathe.com or 07740 194 504

=20

I shall bring the bag along to Tour 1 if you can wait til then. After =
that, Oxfam may have a bit of a windfall.

=20

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delay, here=20
is a list of lost property from the Birmingham Beginners=20
Tournament.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT=20
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style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=3DEurostar>If you wish to =
claim any of=20
the above, the contact me to arrange =
collection:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
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style=3D"mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=3DEurostar><A=20
href=3D"mailto:mta99@breathe.com">mta99@breathe.com</A> or 07740 194=20
504<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
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Can someone please give a definite location for the
student outdoor nationals as most univeristies break
up in just over a week and don't some back until 2
weeks before the event.  The decision will help not
only the organisers but also the student teams
themselves!!!

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From: "Barry O'Kane" <barry.okane@visitscotland.com>
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Subject: Hunting for Media Articles.
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Hi all,

http://www.whatisultimate.com/archive/

whatisultimate.com has a new Media Archive section for which I am looking
for articles.  If you have (or know of) any articles about Ultimate that
have been published in any media, I would be very grateful if you either
submitted it via the site or emailed me all the details.

http://www.whatisultimate.com/archive/

Thanks,
Barry

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The schedule is now sorted for the weekend, everybodies first games are =
below please do not be late as games will run to time.

9.00 -  Bears v Red         WYWLAS v Trigger Happy
9.15 - Hammerage v Urscumy        Sharks v Odd Job
9.30 - MHB v YBK         BAF v Fever
9.45 - SNOAP v Discult        Angels v Sublime
10.00 - Space Monkeys v Purple Haze        Whiplash v Positive Mojo
10.15 - Yo Mama v Flyght CLub        STD v Sublime

Any problems
mob - 07950 312444


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any problems</FONT></DIV>
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From: Samuel Rey <reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk>
To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Sorry that the whole of Britdisc gets this...

Tim, 
I have compiled an invitation, but i am unsure what particularly you wanted
in it, or didn't.
There have been problems contacting you direct (not our server, wonder if it
is yours)

Call me on  07866 336643 or 0115 9146254 during the day

Thanks


Sam

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Subject: Ultimate Raleigh Tournament, Spaces still AVAILABLE!
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Hi all,
       i've still got spaces available for the Tournament at the Meres 
Leisure Centre in Grantham on the 21s April.  Remember this is a charity 
event, so you'll be helping out with a worthwhile cause and playing Indoor 
Ultimate!! :)

All are welcome and i promise it will be a worthwhile day out.  Get your 
names to me ASAP, Cheers Mike Mange Le Foufou.


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Hi,

Can you confirm that Slipdisc have 2 teams entered into Tour 1 please?  'Cos if
only 1 got in then we have to decide who gets to play and who has to stay in
Brum!

Cheers

Si.
Slipdisc




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For Ben (probably)

Did the UKU Budget include new Trophies for Indoor/Outdoor Nationals?

The old ones have "British Ultimate Federation" on them, I think (you'd
have thought I'd remember, after having the Indoor one for 4 years...)


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<html><div style='background-color:'><P>....on the Saturday morning. I live near Camden, but can get to somewhere convenient for a pick up.</P>
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Dear all,

Now that UK Ultimate has an administrator to deal with your enquiries please
can I ask that you direct all membership and admin related emails to
admin@ukultimate.com or phone 0845 1773473.

Thanks

Ben
UK Ultimate


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Surely the best argument for their replacement are the trophies themselves -
irrelevant of what's written on them (Obviously transfer the winners details
across). Are we the only sport whose National champions are awarded a trophy
largely made out of papier mache?

Chris

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From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 15 March 2002 10:35
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Subject: UK Ultimate Trophies?


For Ben (probably)

Did the UKU Budget include new Trophies for Indoor/Outdoor Nationals?

The old ones have "British Ultimate Federation" on them, I think (you'd
have thought I'd remember, after having the Indoor one for 4 years...)


Wayne
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To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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There is a frisbee player who asked me about producing 'Official'
Trophies...
I imagine that you already have this covered but... he did suggest great
prices.

gareth m lewis
production manager
rowton group

email: gareth@rowtongroup.com
Tel: 01299 250107


Sam

914 6254
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Membership payments (cheques) received 09 March - 15 March
Many Thanks! 

Reg No. 	Name
S617		Abrams, Rich
S75		Addie, Jean-Paul 
S421		Alison, Keith 
S490		Alrasheed, Tarik (Taz)
F45		Andreasson, Fredrik 
S292		Antell, Ally
S344		Austin, Stuart
S691		Ayub, Alia
F222		Baker, Aidan
F714		Barry, Simon
S568		Beaumont, Robert
F393		Billingham, Chris
F392		Billingham, Tim
F237		Boreham, Tom
F796		Bowker, Helen 
F946		bralow, roger
F20		Brocklehurst, Adam
S527		Buehl, Jeremy (Chip)
F358		Burke, Martin 
S624		Campbell, Alex
S641		Capel, Tim
F364		Cardew, Merrick 
F898		Chillcott, Kaite 
F126		Constable, Richard 
F902		Cotton, Pete
F896		Coy, Pete (NailZ)
F590		Cozens, Daniel 
F31		Cross, Jaimie 
S6		Cuddihy, Brendan
F948		Cuddihy, Ian (Jazz)
F584		Cullen, Jenny
S503		Cuthbertson, Lindsay
S152		Darroch, Reid 
S293		Davies, Alex
F114		Davies, Rob (Bobby)
S268		Davies, Ross 
F262		Davies, Tony
F564		DAVIS, DIANE
S481		Denham, Tom
F54		Dobson, Matthew
S520		Dodd, Mike (JD)
F184		Duckling, Ian
S77		Dykes, Richard
S665		Elliott, Peter 
F164		Ellis, Andy (V)
S250		Feltham, Andrew 
F609		Fletcher, Graham
F196		Fulford, Mark
S282		Gage, Simon
F741		Gibbons, Sarah
F378		Gibert, Liz
F600		Giguere, Stephen 
F443		Gilbert, Ralph
S48		Gillam, John
S170		Glover, Lewis 
F550		Gomm, Luke (Zulu)
F897		Goolden, Jack
S626		Gower, Tom 
S34		Guilbert, Marc 
F153		Gwynn, Nic (Lizard)
S808		Hartley, Luke (Woody)
S695		Heywood, Ben (Whippit)
S769		Hockings, Wendy
F488		Holden, Sean
S696		Hore, James (FlimFlim)
F633		Howlett, Thomas
F207		Hughes, Chris
S23		Jackson, Richard (LD)
F111		Kelman, gordon (G)
F12		KENNETT, GUY 
S631		Kingston, Emily
F191		Kirwan, Sarah 
S244		Kono, Akemi (Kiwi)
F648		Lam, Hwo
S528		Laurie, Pete (Lozza)
S382		Lee, Steven (IFG)
F145		Lewis, Christopher
F395		Lewis, Gareth
F135		Little, Katie
S182		Little, Stuart 
F916		Mackay, Marc 
F225		Mallarkey, Andrew 
S625		Matthews, Rob
S72		Maynard, Nick
S516		McClure, James (Troy)
S462		McGill, Graham
F132		McGrath, Joe 
F283		mchugh, paul 
F588		McIntosh, Duncan
S482		Michael, Bolstridge
S955		Millar, John
S587		Miller, Tom
F604		Moore, David (Deejay)
F320		Morris, Ru
F908		Ness, David
S291		Nishiyama, Tasha 
S239		Palmer, Chris 
S100		Patterson, Mark 
F944		Pearmain, Ian 
*S459		Pechey, Stephen
F638		Pennington, Neil
F622		Pennington, Sally
S401		Phillips, Craig 
F941		Polson, Jaimie
S252		Potter, Andy
S377		Quilter, Tom 
F410		Randall, John
F1		Ravilious, Ben
F101		Rawi, Zaid (Z)
S16		Rees, Lewis (Loz)
F595		Remmer, Paul
S724		Rogers, Michael
F233		ROLFE, Ben 
F226		Rosenbach, Lee
F890		Saidieh, Farhad
F809		Shardlow, Ed
S629		Shaw, Gareth (Gaz)
F285		shearing, matt
S523		Shellswell, Graham
F939		Sheppard, Dene 
F172		Sherwood, Matthew 
F227		Simon, Norris
S246		Simpson, John
S628		Sinnet-Jones, Polly 
F440		Slack, Richard
F428		Smalley, James (Spider)
S512		Smith, Luke (Lowg)
F926		Snorgaard, Jesper
F436		Sotiropoulos, Alexis
S777		Spurway, Chris 
F189		Stevens, Nicky 
S943		Tanner, James 
S415		Thackrah, Iain (Thac)
S28		Thompson, Jolyon (Jo)
F608		Toner, Ben
S229		Travers, James 
F284		Tucker, Andrew 
S84		Twomey, Dominic 
F846		Unwin, David
F63		Unwin, Paul (Stig)
S706		Urquhart, Jamie
F892		vitali, daniela
F544		vokes, jo
F76		Waite, Paul 
F394		Watson, John
S614		West, Lorna
F422		Whitehouse, Rob 
S507		Whiting, William
S610		whitter, Lucy
F894		WIJNS, karen (krazy k)
S615		Williams, Simon
S598		Woods, Joel
S121		wright, peter 



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Due to a number of open teams persuasive arguments for
playing in the Mute tourny on the 27-28th April I've
decided to switch this tourny to an open tourny.

Tourny Fee is 100quid but it's a sponsored charity
event so please turn up in fancy dress/silly hats etc.


Please get the tourny fee in to confirm you're place
and then go about raising money for barnardos. Cheques
are payable to M.U.S.C.A (manchester university
student charity association)

Cheers 

Dann tel 07811375015 01613749116

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Please can someone tell me how to contact Tim Blair about the Student =
Outdoor Tournament





I know this was asked and replied to about a week ago, but it was =
politely pointed out to me by my captain that as the new tournament =
organiser, it was my responsibility to organise tournament business (i =
knew there was a catch).  Having deleted the=20
e-mail with Tim's details on as irrelevant info, I now find myself =
needing them!

I did locate an e-mail address for Tim on the UKUltimate website, but he =
hasn't replied after a few days, so I fear it may be an old one.

Sorry for the inconvenience



Robin Karfoot
Tournament Organiser
Uriel

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please can someone tell me how to =
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I have very recently formed a new team call 'Shhh' and we are located in 
Sharnbrook, Bedford (Nr Milton Keynes, Cambridge, Northampton etc.) We have 
a squad of almost 20 17/18 year old males. We are desperate to play as much 
as we can this summer between April 14th to May 19th and 10th June to 28th 
July. If you have any advice as to what we should be doing / where we should 
be going / what we should be looking for please reply and give us as much 
information as possible. Also if you can give us a fixture and are 
reasonably close to us  that would be excellent as well.

Cheers,

Ollie Hudson.
Shhh.


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Hope everyone had fun at the indoor nationals. would have 
loved to have been there... but got shafted

I have a bone to pick but i don't know who i should be 
pickinh it with. but someone somewhere has not acted in the 
best interests of ultimate and its reputation. As some of 
you may be aware, a place opened up at the tournament, and 
bids for that spot were invited. Sublime and Uriel both 
requested the spot...

I don't know why, but sublime (and i have nothing against 
them because i'd have applied for the spot in their 
position too - and congratulations to them on a storming 
performance by the way) were awarded the space ahead of 
Uriel. This seems odd because we played each other in the 
same region, Uriel winning convincingly, and finishing one 
place higher. If anyone knows why we didn't get the place, 
i'd be very interested to know. As it stands, it seems as 
if there was very little point in Uriel entering the weston 
qualifiers in the first place, as despite our efforts in 
coming 6th, we were passed over in favour of the 7th placed 
team.

The results of weston are on the ukultimate website... it 
surely can't be rocket science? And if the spot goes on 
first come first served, then doesn't that need addressing?

Not happy...

----------------------
Andrew Hall
Uriel

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Subject: ultimate in plymouth this summer
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g'day all.

apologies for anyone who this does not apply to (in the main those NOT living 
in my neck of the woods this summer).

after a less than ideal 3+ month university break last summer, i'd really like 
to keep playing in the (hopefully) fairer summer months back home (and keep fit 
for The Tour.

so, if anyone else is in or around plymouth / southwest devon this summer 
please get i touch so that we can keep chucking a disc around. please.

dean.
(blt, jb).


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FLYGHTCLUB would like to invite you all to enter the

First CO-ED Tour Event of the Year

27th & 28th April 2002

 

LOCATION

Nottingham Highfields Park boasts spacious fields, an on site Bar with en suite changing rooms and a nearby Boating Lake & Arbor.  The Copa Cabana Party atmosphere will rock you through day and night at this awesome event.

 

REGISTER YOUR INTENT

Your team must comply with UKU CO-ED standards.  Your Team will be need to be Rostered by the deadline date.

Email Samanir32@yahoo.com to register your INTEREST.

Post a cheque to the address below to arrive BEFORE April 14th 2002.  

ARRIVAL OF YOUR CHEQUE CONFIRMS YOUR TEAM ENTRY

If you wish to register more than one team, please post one cheque per team with your Team Name & “CO-ED TOUR ONE” clearly marked on the reverse

 

PAYMENTS

Please make cheques for £100 payable to Samuel Rey
Post to Sam Rey62a Nottingham RoadBasfordNottinghamNG7 7AH
 

Although more details will follow, if you need any further information before booking, please contact me via any of the following:-

 

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reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk

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&nbsp;
<P class=MsoNormal>FLYGHTCLUB would like to invite you all to enter the</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>First CO-ED Tour Event of the Year</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>27<SUP>th</SUP> &amp; 28<SUP>th</SUP> April 2002</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Nottingham Highfields Park boasts spacious fields, an on site Bar with en suite changing rooms and a nearby Boating Lake &amp; Arbor.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The Copa Cabana Party atmosphere will rock you through day and night at this awesome event.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>REGISTER YOUR INTENT</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Your team must comply with UKU CO-ED standards.&nbsp; Your Team will be need to be Rostered by the deadline date.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Email <A href="mailto:Samanir32@yahoo.com">Samanir32@yahoo.com</A> to register your INTEREST.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Post a cheque to the address below to arrive BEFORE April 14<SUP>th</SUP> 2002.&nbsp; </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>ARRIVAL OF YOUR CHEQUE CONFIRMS YOUR TEAM ENTRY</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>If you wish to register more than one team, please post one cheque per team with your Team Name &amp; “CO-ED TOUR ONE” clearly marked on the reverse</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>PAYMENTS</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Please make cheques for £100 payable to Samuel Rey</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Although more details will follow, if you need any further information before booking, please contact me via any of the following:-</P>
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Hi all,

I would really like to pick-up at women nationals this
weekend. I started playing in september and have been
to 4 tournaments and train 3 times a week with Mute
Animal Unit. I haven't played womens before but would
really like to so if anyone out there needs an extra
player please could you phone me or reply to this
E-mail.

Thankyou

Lance/Louri - Mute Animal Unit

Tel 07811-375-015

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From: "Jon Good" <funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com>
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Andrew,
       it does seem as if you were robbed. To my knowledge in previous years 
the situation has always been that if a team pulled out of a finals event, 
the spot went to the next best qualifier from that region. This always 
seemed fair and I don't understand why this wasn't the case. Somebody 
somewhere f*@!$d up and you and the rest of your team has my sympathy (for 
what it's worth).

I reckon Nationals should be replayed, unless BAF won in which case better 
luck next time!

Jon 'Le Boeuf' Good - BAF & Flatball (when able to walk)

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I spoke to andrew and explain what happened in the lead up to Sublime
getting the final place to nationals. We didn't know if they'd applied and
believed everything was okay when we got offered the slot few days before
the tournie. So naturally we just accepted none the wiser. I sympathise with
Uriel and believe that we should consider the following:

I think thier are two lessons to be learnt/think about here:

1. Things need to be organised further in advance, so a decent system can be
implentmented so replacement teams can be allocated fairly and without
panic.

2. The regions were very unbalanced. The top 10 at WSM probably would have
all finished 16+ at nationals. (The 6 teams that did go all finished in the
top 16, and 4 of them in the top 6). I think the top team from scotland came
16th and the top team from midlands about 12th? Is there anyway of
addressing this? It needs thought anyway, I haven't got a solution but maybe
others do.

Cheers

Loopy
(Sublime)


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Then again, I notice that the Indoor trophy now has the novelty feature
of moving parts.

Wayne

Fri, 15 Mar 2002, by HUGHES, Chris <mailto:CHughes@glos.ac.uk>;
 Subject: UK Ultimate Trophies?
>Surely the best argument for their replacement are the trophies themselves -
>irrelevant of what's written on them (Obviously transfer the winners details
>across). Are we the only sport whose National champions are awarded a trophy
>largely made out of papier mache?
>
>Chris
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For whomsoever the "Mixed Coordinator" (?) is,
or maybe Si Weeks (UKU DoC) or Sam Rey (TD):

>    Your team must comply with UKU CO-ED standards.

which are ?
Would someone please post them, or their URL.

>  Your Team will be 
>    need to be Rostered by the deadline date.

which is ?

Wayne Retter

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> Your team must comply with UKU CO-ED standards.

I'd like to add to Wayne Retter's question - coz the fancy new UKU
web-based sign-up allows you to roster for ONE team for INDOORS and ONE
for OUTDOORS ... does this mean that you CANNOT play for different teams
in the MIXED and OPEN Tour events?

This needs to be clarified URGENTLY please.

Cheers

Sam Neilson

PS The division is officially called MIXED ... the term CO-ED was
dropped over two years ago by WFDF.

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To give you a quick answer to your question, we decided against requiring UK Ultimate membership for the mixed tour events as there are often a lot of new players at these. We might decide to require membership for the mixed nationals.

However, if those organising the mixed tour require rostering then we may well perform this via the website. They will make this clear in due course.

The current web registration form (very clearly) relates only to the OPEN events - there are no restrictions on playing for a different MIXED team. Please do not change your entry as you may disqualify yourself from the OPEN tour.

Ben

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Dave Neilson" <D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:05:02 +0000

>> Your team must comply with UKU CO-ED standards.
>
>I'd like to add to Wayne Retter's question - coz the fancy new UKU
>web-based sign-up allows you to roster for ONE team for INDOORS and ONE
>for OUTDOORS ... does this mean that you CANNOT play for different teams
>in the MIXED and OPEN Tour events?
>
>This needs to be clarified URGENTLY please.
>
>Cheers
>
>Sam Neilson
>
>PS The division is officially called MIXED ... the term CO-ED was
>dropped over two years ago by WFDF.
>

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firstly congratulations to all those who went down to
bradford at the wekend for the indoor nationals, i
enjoyed taking part again and seeing one of the most
nail biting finals in a while.

anyway, i thought it might be an idea to address a few
points form lewis glover. i do agree with the guy from
uriel that it seemed to be an odd way to sort out
choosing which team replace those which dropped out,
and its obvious that sublime had in no way anything to
do with it and i think their final placing showed how
much they deserved that place, but due to poor
organisation on the part of the tournament director(s)
who set up the competition, it does seem that uriel
got shafted.

however, in response to lewis glovers point about WSW
being the stronger region, fair enough, but at the
same time it would seem to be a bit harsh to alter the
numbers of qualifiers from the different regions, as,
being open qualifiers, the team entering are very
prone to change year in year out and so it is
difficult to tell which region will produce the top
teams. ok, the midlands tend to produce top teams all
the time, but for example, last year, fusion fom
scotland were tipped to win it and eventually came
fourth, after losing narrowly in their semi. this
year, the top scottish team came 15th (not 16th as was
announced at the end of the tournament) after playing
poorly all weekend.  im not making excuses, but my
point is i think it would be unfair to penalise a
district due to a poor performance by its 'top' team,
as people have bad days and good days, and the
standard of team can vary extensively between years. 

in addition, if a particular region had two or three
barren years then where would you draw the line in
terms of reducing their qualification spots? it seems
a little unfair if a region ended up with 1
qualification spot, or even 2. it also seems pretty
much against the spirit of the game.

so basically, i think that it is quite a good set up
at the moment, and that the reduction of qualification
spots for the so called ' weaker' regions is not the
way forward as things tend to change from year to
year, and the method at the minute seems quite
flexible wnough to deal with the changes.

cormac
STD Ultimate



 --- Lewis Glover <Loopy1019@btopenworld.com> wrote: >
I spoke to andrew and explain what happened in the
> lead up to Sublime
> getting the final place to nationals. We didn't know
> if they'd applied and
> believed everything was okay when we got offered the
> slot few days before
> the tournie. So naturally we just accepted none the
> wiser. I sympathise with
> Uriel and believe that we should consider the
> following:
> 
> I think thier are two lessons to be learnt/think
> about here:
> 
> 1. Things need to be organised further in advance,
> so a decent system can be
> implentmented so replacement teams can be allocated
> fairly and without
> panic.
> 
> 2. The regions were very unbalanced. The top 10 at
> WSM probably would have
> all finished 16+ at nationals. (The 6 teams that did
> go all finished in the
> top 16, and 4 of them in the top 6). I think the top
> team from scotland came
> 16th and the top team from midlands about 12th? Is
> there anyway of
> addressing this? It needs thought anyway, I haven't
> got a solution but maybe
> others do.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Loopy
> (Sublime)
> 
>  


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...and another thing:

I believe that teams could choose which 'regions' they entered, and so
unless you start telling people which 'regions' they have to enter, then the
standards are always going to be subject to change. From the very start it
was made clear that these were not entirely regional competitions, but they
were five qualifying events that happened to be held in four different
regions. I am not suggesting that Uriel should have gone to Dundee to
qualify, but it complicates any claims that certain 'regions' should have
more or less slots in Nationals.

Roll on the day when we can book the NEC for a week, and have everyone
playing Nationals at the same time, so that we don't have any fuss about
qualifying slots.

Andy
Slipdisc

-----Original Message-----
From: cormac cosgrove [mailto:cormaccosgrove@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 19 March 2002 11:56
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Shafted 


firstly congratulations to all those who went down to
bradford at the wekend for the indoor nationals, i
enjoyed taking part again and seeing one of the most
nail biting finals in a while.

anyway, i thought it might be an idea to address a few
points form lewis glover. i do agree with the guy from
uriel that it seemed to be an odd way to sort out
choosing which team replace those which dropped out,
and its obvious that sublime had in no way anything to
do with it and i think their final placing showed how
much they deserved that place, but due to poor
organisation on the part of the tournament director(s)
who set up the competition, it does seem that uriel
got shafted.

however, in response to lewis glovers point about WSW
being the stronger region, fair enough, but at the
same time it would seem to be a bit harsh to alter the
numbers of qualifiers from the different regions, as,
being open qualifiers, the team entering are very
prone to change year in year out and so it is
difficult to tell which region will produce the top
teams. ok, the midlands tend to produce top teams all
the time, but for example, last year, fusion fom
scotland were tipped to win it and eventually came
fourth, after losing narrowly in their semi. this
year, the top scottish team came 15th (not 16th as was
announced at the end of the tournament) after playing
poorly all weekend.  im not making excuses, but my
point is i think it would be unfair to penalise a
district due to a poor performance by its 'top' team,
as people have bad days and good days, and the
standard of team can vary extensively between years. 

in addition, if a particular region had two or three
barren years then where would you draw the line in
terms of reducing their qualification spots? it seems
a little unfair if a region ended up with 1
qualification spot, or even 2. it also seems pretty
much against the spirit of the game.

so basically, i think that it is quite a good set up
at the moment, and that the reduction of qualification
spots for the so called ' weaker' regions is not the
way forward as things tend to change from year to
year, and the method at the minute seems quite
flexible wnough to deal with the changes.

cormac
STD Ultimate



 --- Lewis Glover <Loopy1019@btopenworld.com> wrote: >
I spoke to andrew and explain what happened in the
> lead up to Sublime
> getting the final place to nationals. We didn't know
> if they'd applied and
> believed everything was okay when we got offered the
> slot few days before
> the tournie. So naturally we just accepted none the
> wiser. I sympathise with
> Uriel and believe that we should consider the
> following:
> 
> I think thier are two lessons to be learnt/think
> about here:
> 
> 1. Things need to be organised further in advance,
> so a decent system can be
> implentmented so replacement teams can be allocated
> fairly and without
> panic.
> 
> 2. The regions were very unbalanced. The top 10 at
> WSM probably would have
> all finished 16+ at nationals. (The 6 teams that did
> go all finished in the
> top 16, and 4 of them in the top 6). I think the top
> team from scotland came
> 16th and the top team from midlands about 12th? Is
> there anyway of
> addressing this? It needs thought anyway, I haven't
> got a solution but maybe
> others do.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Loopy
> (Sublime)
> 
>  


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>...and another thing:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I believe that teams could choose which 'regions' =
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they have to enter, then the standards are always going to be subject =
to change. From the very start it was made clear that these were not =
entirely regional competitions, but they were five qualifying events =
that happened to be held in four different regions. I am not suggesting =
that Uriel should have gone to Dundee to qualify, but it complicates =
any claims that certain 'regions' should have more or less slots in =
Nationals.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Roll on the day when we can book the NEC for a week, =
and have everyone playing Nationals at the same time, so that we don't =
have any fuss about qualifying slots.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Slipdisc</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: cormac cosgrove [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:cormaccosgrove@yahoo.co.uk">mailto:cormaccosgrove@yahoo.c=
o.uk</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 19 March 2002 11:56</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Shafted </FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>firstly congratulations to all those who went down =
to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bradford at the wekend for the indoor nationals, =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>enjoyed taking part again and seeing one of the =
most</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>nail biting finals in a while.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>anyway, i thought it might be an idea to address a =
few</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>points form lewis glover. i do agree with the guy =
from</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>uriel that it seemed to be an odd way to sort =
out</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>choosing which team replace those which dropped =
out,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and its obvious that sublime had in no way anything =
to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>do with it and i think their final placing showed =
how</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>much they deserved that place, but due to =
poor</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>organisation on the part of the tournament =
director(s)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>who set up the competition, it does seem that =
uriel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>got shafted.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>however, in response to lewis glovers point about =
WSW</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>being the stronger region, fair enough, but at =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>same time it would seem to be a bit harsh to alter =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>numbers of qualifiers from the different regions, =
as,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>being open qualifiers, the team entering are =
very</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>prone to change year in year out and so it is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>difficult to tell which region will produce the =
top</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>teams. ok, the midlands tend to produce top teams =
all</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the time, but for example, last year, fusion =
fom</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>scotland were tipped to win it and eventually =
came</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>fourth, after losing narrowly in their semi. =
this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>year, the top scottish team came 15th (not 16th as =
was</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>announced at the end of the tournament) after =
playing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>poorly all weekend.&nbsp; im not making excuses, but =
my</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>point is i think it would be unfair to penalise =
a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>district due to a poor performance by its 'top' =
team,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>as people have bad days and good days, and the</FONT>=

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>standard of team can vary extensively between years. =
</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>in addition, if a particular region had two or =
three</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>barren years then where would you draw the line =
in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>terms of reducing their qualification spots? it =
seems</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>a little unfair if a region ended up with 1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>qualification spot, or even 2. it also seems =
pretty</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>much against the spirit of the game.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>so basically, i think that it is quite a good set =
up</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>at the moment, and that the reduction of =
qualification</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>spots for the so called ' weaker' regions is not =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>way forward as things tend to change from year =
to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>year, and the method at the minute seems =
quite</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>flexible wnough to deal with the changes.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>cormac</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>STD Ultimate</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;--- Lewis Glover =
&lt;Loopy1019@btopenworld.com&gt; wrote: &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I spoke to andrew and explain what happened in =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; lead up to Sublime</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; getting the final place to nationals. We didn't =
know</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; if they'd applied and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; believed everything was okay when we got =
offered the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; slot few days before</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the tournie. So naturally we just accepted none =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; wiser. I sympathise with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Uriel and believe that we should consider =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; following:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I think thier are two lessons to be =
learnt/think</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; about here:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1. Things need to be organised further in =
advance,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; so a decent system can be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; implentmented so replacement teams can be =
allocated</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; fairly and without</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; panic.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 2. The regions were very unbalanced. The top 10 =
at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; WSM probably would have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; all finished 16+ at nationals. (The 6 teams =
that did</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; go all finished in the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; top 16, and 4 of them in the top 6). I think =
the top</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; team from scotland came</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 16th and the top team from midlands about 12th? =
Is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; there anyway of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; addressing this? It needs thought anyway, I =
haven't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; got a solution but maybe</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; others do.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Loopy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (Sublime)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT>
</P>
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Just to add to the confusion, teams are not, to my knowledge, restricted to 
qualifying in the region they 'belong' to. While I doubt many English teams 
will try their luck in Scotland next year, region cherry picking is still an 
issue. So fiddling about with qualification spots isn't a great idea at the 
moment.

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PS. Well done to Lewis and co. on their storming performance.


>From: cormac cosgrove <cormaccosgrove@yahoo.co.uk>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Shafted
>Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:56:06 +0000 (GMT)
>
>>in addition, if a particular region had two or three
>barren years then where would you draw the line in
>terms of reducing their qualification spots? it seems
>a little unfair if a region ended up with 1
>qualification spot, or even 2. it also seems pretty
>much against the spirit of the game.
>
>so basically, i think that it is quite a good set up
>at the moment, and that the reduction of qualification
>spots for the so called ' weaker' regions is not the
>way forward as things tend to change from year to
>year, and the method at the minute seems quite
>flexible wnough to deal with the changes.
>
>cormac
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A few thoughts...

Firstly, Thanks for a great tournament last weekend.  Speaking for the whole 
of my team - we thoroughly enjoyed it.

Secondly, regarding the "stronger/weaker" regions... I agree with Cormac.  
Okay, so we were the second of the two teams from scotland, and okay - we 
came 17th....    BUT...  I feel this tournament provided our young team with 
essential experience and tactics, that we would never have got otherwise.  
The saturday games were tough and we didn't play particularly well, but we 
learned from those games (thanks to sublime, angels, whiplash, std and 
skunks) and came out a much stronger team the next day.  This was our first 
ever open tournament outside of scotland, and I am grateful for the 
opportunity given to us.  Perhaps this year scotland is the weaker region, 
but allowing us to come along and compete has given us valuable experience, 
which in the long run (hopefully) will help us to become a team capable of 
running with the big midland teams!

LAST but NOT LEAST:  I want to thank every team that we played against in 
the nationals...  we may have won, we may have lost - but we enjoyed EVERY 
bit of it.  Great spirit by all!

Thanks, and sorry for the babbling...
NSC Dave
positive mojo



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When is anyone going to post full results of the 'Indoor Cup'?

Heard a rumour that Sharks won....but as there's been no showboating on
Britdisc I can't be sure ;-)

Silver B.

PS Thanks to whoever sent my cap back in the post you kind kind person. I'd
say I love you but I still strongly suspect the evil hand of Retter and his
purple legion of the damned...


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From: positive mojo [mailto:the_cube_2002@hotmail.com]
Sent: 19 March 2002 15:44
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: "Shafted"...


A few thoughts...

Firstly, Thanks for a great tournament last weekend.  Speaking for the whole

of my team - we thoroughly enjoyed it.

Secondly, regarding the "stronger/weaker" regions... I agree with Cormac.  
Okay, so we were the second of the two teams from scotland, and okay - we 
came 17th....    BUT...  I feel this tournament provided our young team with

essential experience and tactics, that we would never have got otherwise.  
The saturday games were tough and we didn't play particularly well, but we 
learned from those games (thanks to sublime, angels, whiplash, std and 
skunks) and came out a much stronger team the next day.  This was our first 
ever open tournament outside of scotland, and I am grateful for the 
opportunity given to us.  Perhaps this year scotland is the weaker region, 
but allowing us to come along and compete has given us valuable experience, 
which in the long run (hopefully) will help us to become a team capable of 
running with the big midland teams!

LAST but NOT LEAST:  I want to thank every team that we played against in 
the nationals...  we may have won, we may have lost - but we enjoyed EVERY 
bit of it.  Great spirit by all!

Thanks, and sorry for the babbling...
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From: "Jonathan Palmer" <jonathan.palmer@new.oxford.ac.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Shafted
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:30:35 -0000
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Britdisc,

I'm not sure that anyone is suggesting that the number of slots should
be allocated permanently on a per region basis. Clearly with the allowed
choice of qualifiers that doesn't make much sense, but last year someone
(chris Huges?) looked at the relative strengths of the team entered into
the various qualifiers and allocated the slots accordingly. I don't
understand why the same wasn't done this year. I've looked back at the
various results from the indoor season and compiled the following list
by region of teams entered at qualifiers who had make quarters or better
earlier in the season (not including Great Barr Crawl which was played
after qualifiers, apologies to any results I might have missed out)



SW

BAF - This season: 1 win, 2 Semis, 2 Quarters, last Nationals: 2nd
SNOAP - This Season: 1 win
TeamShark - This Season: 1 semi  Last Nationals: half the team 3rd at
nationals as Shrub
Mythago - This Season: 1 Semi
Sublime - This Season: 1 quarter
Discult - This Season: 1 quarter
Mr Men  - This Season: 1 quarter


London

YoMama - This Season: 1 runners-up, 2 semis  Last Nationals: 5th
Angels - This Season: 1 quarters  Last Season: 8th
Hammerage - This Season: 1 runner-up  Last Nationals: 6th
Fever -  This Season: 1 quarter


Midlands

MHB - This Season: 2 wins, 1 runner-up  Last Nationals: 1st
Space Monkeys: 1 win, 1 runner-up, 1 semi, 1 quarter
OddJob - This Season: 1 quarter
Yorkshire All stars:  This Season: 1 runner-up


North

Bears - This Season: 1 semi, 1 quarter
Whiplash - This Season: 1 quarter
Skunks - This Season: 1 semi, 1 quarter
Haze - This Season: 1 quarter


Scotland

None -



It is clear that SW and Midlands were the strongest regions accounting
for all winners and all but two of the final spots, while no Scottish
entered at qualifiers had played a tournie.

Had I been asked to allocate the slots I would have done so like this:

1st round - Slots for "Top Teams":

SW - 3 (BAF, SNOAP, Sharks)
L - 2 (YoMama, Hammerage)
M - 3 (MHB, Space monkeys, All Stars)
N - 1 (Bears/Skunks)
S - 0


2nd round - Slots for "Depth":
SW - 2 (4 other teams made quarters or better)
L - 1 ( 2 other teams made quarters)
M - 1 ( 1 team made quarters)
N - 1 ( 3 other teams made quarters or better but no team made a final)
S - 0

3rd round - allocate remaining 10 slots:
SW - 2
L - 2
M - 2
N - 2
S - 2


Totals:

SW - 7
L - 5
M - 6
N - 4
S - 2


I think is was wrong to say that the regions were mostly equal, and
while I agree that it is unlikely that you would win nationals from
outside the top four in your region, I don't think that before nationals
many would have thought it likely that a 3rd placed team would actually
win and certainly not that a 7th placed team could come 6th at
nationals! (congrats sublime) Perhaps next year we could make a similar
"strength" analysis of the various qualifiers and allocate the slots
that way.

Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading,

Boston
(TeamShark)






-----Original Message-----
From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]
On Behalf Of David Eastman
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 1:47 PM
To: cormaccosgrove@yahoo.co.uk; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Shafted

Just to add to the confusion, teams are not, to my knowledge, restricted
to 
qualifying in the region they 'belong' to. While I doubt many English
teams 
will try their luck in Scotland next year, region cherry picking is
still an 
issue. So fiddling about with qualification spots isn't a great idea at
the 
moment.

David Eastman, Hammerage


PS. Well done to Lewis and co. on their storming performance.


>From: cormac cosgrove <cormaccosgrove@yahoo.co.uk>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Shafted
>Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:56:06 +0000 (GMT)
>
>>in addition, if a particular region had two or three
>barren years then where would you draw the line in
>terms of reducing their qualification spots? it seems
>a little unfair if a region ended up with 1
>qualification spot, or even 2. it also seems pretty
>much against the spirit of the game.
>
>so basically, i think that it is quite a good set up
>at the moment, and that the reduction of qualification
>spots for the so called ' weaker' regions is not the
>way forward as things tend to change from year to
>year, and the method at the minute seems quite
>flexible wnough to deal with the changes.
>
>cormac
>STD Ultimate
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Teams aren't restricted to certain Regions because for a variety of
reasons.

Historically, we've encountered problems when:
a Region has been unable to host a Regional Championship/Qualifier;
a Regional event has not been large enough to accommodate all of the
'local' teams;

and of course, there are several non-Geo teams that head for wherever
they reckon they can do something entertaining between games and have a
good Saturday night out.

With any luck, as the sport grows, each region will become stronger, the
geo-stuff will kick in and everyone will stay closer to home for
Regionals.

In the meantime, keep thinking, and remember this stuff BEFORE Regionals
and Nationals next year :)

Wayne



Tue, 19 Mar 2002, by David Eastman <mailto:david_eastman@hotmail.com>;
 Subject: Shafted
>Just to add to the confusion, teams are not, to my knowledge, restricted to 
>qualifying in the region they 'belong' to. While I doubt many English teams 
>will try their luck in Scotland next year, region cherry picking is still an 
>issue. So fiddling about with qualification spots isn't a great idea at the 
>moment.
>
>David Eastman, Hammerage

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It strikes me that Nottingham seems to be bidding for title of "Home of
Ultimate" ! Nice work, Sam & co
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>When is anyone going to post full results of the 'Indoor Cup'?

When Sharma or Rik find the bit of paper they had them scribbled on, I
reckon.

If it's of any assistance, I think I remember/have worked out this much:

 1.     TeamShark
 2.     Mexican Horse Bandits
 3.     Yo Mama
 4.     Blue Arse Flies

 6.     Sublime

15.     STD

17.     Positive Mojo

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Thats right  - we're calling in all Als in an attempt
to reinforce to the wider Ultimate playing community
just what a force Als can be to have to contend with
on the pitch..

Some people might have already called the effort a
complete joke - a waste of time and effort but the Als
shall not be thwarted.. TEAM AL will reign supreme at
Glastonbury this very year..

more to come  

aL

  

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FYI

TeamShark are Indoor National Champions 2002

Regards


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From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
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And very well done indeed!!!!
Congratulations!!! Although I still think you were lucky to beat us ;-)
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> FYI
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> TeamShark are Indoor National Champions 2002
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Erm, on the subject of qualifying groups i know that within our own club 
(bears) we had a bit of discussion before qualifiers that northern region 
(where graham was going to play with monkeys) 'seemed' stonger that midlands 
(where we were due to play), but we concluded that if you based qualifying 
spots on apparent strength of region then you may as well just effectively 
choose who goes to nationals in the first place. Which seem a little unfair 
and not exactly in the spirit of the game.

At any rate, given that this IS nationals, and the overall aim is basically 
to win (with general emphaisis on top eight only), most teams who finish top 
eight in the end should be able to qualify no matter how hard to group is 
(with the obvious exception of Sublime who played fantastically all 
weekend). Just a thought, and not very eloquently put. Sorry.

Woody (Bears, Furious 5)



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We're New! We're pretty good outdoors and we're wanting to play a few games
before the summer tournaments. Our team 'Discoordinated' is a junior side
all 18year olds. We all go to Millfield School and want to promote Ultimate
before we leave. We have a new flood lit water based astro turf, great for
ultimate! After a school day around 4pm or 5pm we would like to have a game
and get a good audience. If anyone in or near the Somerset area is wanting
a game please let me know. There will be dinner provided. Any Sunday is
good too and we're willing to set up a small tournament.

Please contact Rich White 07881 813920
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Following is a list of the teams that have been entered into Tour 1 so far.

 

1)      STD Ultimate                          open                   

2)      Whey                                       open                 

3)      Bears mix                                open                            

4)      Bad Habits                              open                

5)      Blue Arse Flies 1                     open    

6)      Blue Arse Flies 2                     open                

7)      Red 1                                      open 

8)      Red 2                                      open                

9)      JB7                                          open                

10)  Mute                                        open                

11)   Albatross                                open                

12)   LeedsLeedsLeeds                 open                 

13)   Flyght Club 1                          open                

14)   Flyght Club 2                          open                

15)   Druids                                                open                 

16)  Rats of Nimh                           open                

17)  Sublime                                   open                

18)  Trigger Happy                         open                

19)  Un Poco Loco                         open                

20)  Chevron Action Flash             open                             

21)  Swivel                                      open                

22)  Hammerage                            open                

23)  Slipdisc1                                 open                

24)  Slipdisc2                                 open               

25)  Fusion                                     open

26)  Headrush 1                             open    

27)  Headrush 2                             open

28)  Clapham 1                              open

29)  Clapham 2                              open

30)  Strangeblue                             open    

31)  Shooting Project                     open

32)  Mud Culture                             open

33)  Team Sharks                          open

34)  Mavis                                       womans

 

 

 For anyone that is interested there are still places available.

 

Adam & Matt



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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">9)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">JB7<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">10)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">Mute<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">11)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Albatross<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">12)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>LeedsLeedsLeeds<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">13)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Flyght Club 1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">14)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Flyght Club 2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">15)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Druids<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">16)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rats of Nimh<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">17)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">Sublime<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">18)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Trigger Happy<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">19)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Un Poco Loco<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">20)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chevron Action Flash<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">21)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Swivel<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">22)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hammerage<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">23)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Slipdisc1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">24)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Slipdisc2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">25)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fusion<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">26)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Headrush 1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">27)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Headrush 2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">28)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Clapham 1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">29)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Clapham 2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">30)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Strangeblue<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">31)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Shooting Project<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">32)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mud Culture<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">33)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Team Sharks<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">34)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mavis<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>womans<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><o:p><FONT size=2>&nbsp;For anyone that is interested there are still places available.</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Hello BD,

 Just a little reply to the subject of the qualification spots. 

 Firstly I find it very hard to judge a region which didn't manage to 
field two of its stronger teams this year. Last year Fusion finished 
4th, this year Mud Culture(aka Far Flung) made it to the semi final 
earlier in the year down in Leeds. 

 Secondly, of the teams that did make it,STD, made up of different 
players to the previous 2 mentioned, slipped up at vital stages of 
matches, losing and finshing well below their expected spot after 
being knocked out in their cross-over by the team which finished 
3rd. Aberdeen narrowly lost to 2 of the top eight by only a point, 
showing the experience they had gained on the first day, to take 
the spoon.

 Allocating qualifying spots on how teams from that region have 
done previuosly that year would be OK if all the teams entered 
enough tornaments. Judgeing a team you know nothing about 
could cause problems. Although I agree it would encourage open 
teams to play together more.

 At the end of the day I think it'll be very hard to reduce any regions 
number of spots before the tourney when in Scotlands case 2 
couldn't make it, one underperformed, and the other gained a lot of 
experience(which they could be denied to use if less spots are 
allocated next year?). I think a better idea would be to allocate the 
spots left by teams who qualified but couldn't make it, to the 
stronger regions, based on the previous years results at finals.

 Hope your still awake,

 Sam
 (STD)

  



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Anyone travelling by car to Stansted on Wednesday 27th and/or returning
on 2nd April that I might share a lift with?

I am travelling with GO and departing at 12.05. I am starting out from
near Coventry but could travel to someone else's starting point and at
least avoid some parking charges.

Reply by e-mail or call on 01926 864136.

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hello,

as far as i can see, some people are saying:
1. maybe we should allocate qualification spots based on recent
performance

and some are retorting:
2. no...because you could have gone to whatever region you wished. 

well: why not just say that teams must make clear the region they will
be going to a few weeks in advance (and have a proper deadline). then
some bod can do the maths and allocate the qualifying spots based on
that information.

it seems clear to me that the spots must be allocated based on recent
performance. to see this just imagine if MHB, BAF, teamshark, yomama,
space monkeys, WYWLAS, SNOAP, and hammerage could all only go to the
midland region. if only 4 of them, say, could qualify, it would be a
farce. that is just the current situation taken to its logical
conclusion. 

reductio ad absurdum.
qed.

cheers,
Rodders/Pete
Space Monkeys, Chevron

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How do you propose assessing recent performance - it is unfair to use 
tournaments south of the border as frequently the better Scottish players 
are unable to attend. The only way it can be done is to use tournaments 
which all the teams in question will be at but this is never going to 
happen. Recent performance assessment can only ever apply to non student 
teams as the influx of new talent occurs every year and in some cases each 
semester. It seems to  me that the present situation seems to be the most 
logical especially as there is free entry to any of the regional qualifiers. 
Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the Midlands...

Bess
Postivie Mojo (kind of)

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From: "Jonathan Palmer" <jonathan.palmer@new.oxford.ac.uk>
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Bess/Britdisc,

Well the crude method I used in my previous post is one way. I intended
it as an example of how such an allocation of slots could have been
made. I think I agree that two slots isn't enough for any region. I
probably should have included results from last years nationals. Plus in
the same way that I applied Shrubs results at nationals last year to
gauge the strength of the SW, information such as Mud Culture = Far
flung (semi at leeds) would have made a difference to the calculation.
Plus had Fusion been entered at Scottish Qualifiers my calculation would
have allocated more slots to Scotland due to their performance at Leeds
and the last nationals.

The method I used also considers all tournies equally, result from a
tournie held in Scotland and attended only by Scottish teams would have
changed the allocation dramatically and I think that is reasonable.

I agree that it is great that teams should be able to get the experience
of playing at Nationals as Mojo did, but that in my opinion that doesn't
justify the allocating of slots. Why is the Mojo's case in Scotland any
different from Sublime's or Uriel's in the South west. Scottish
qualifiers were allocated 4 slots despite their potentially strongest
team, Fission not being entered, Mojo qualified and got their experience
of nationals. But the SW was allocated only 5 slots despite containing
three or four "strong" teams. Uriel and Sublime finished 6th and 7th and
didn't qualify, yet interestingly both Uriel and Sublime finished above
Mojo at students. I that sense Uriel and Sublime were "shafted" by the
allocation of slots.

There are more complicated and more transparent methods than the one I
previously used for calculating the relative strengths of the various
regions ( I'd be happy to explain them if any one wanted to listen ;-) )
I think we should try to use some system/algorithm. Obviously the one
thing it mustn't do is penalize teams/regions for not attending
tournaments. Some methods can be adapted to do that or we could set a
minimum number of slots given to each region and allocate the others by
strength.  Otherwise we could use a system such as was used at Ego Wang
were each region is asked to how many slots they think they should get
and why (after all we have all the roster info from UK Ultimate, the
system worked pretty well for seeding Ego Wang). Of course all this
would be more accurate if there were more tournies and everyone played
more.

Thanks for reading, remember it's only indoors! It's not like it
actually matters right? ;-)

Statto
(Teamshark)





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How do you propose assessing recent performance - it is unfair to use 
tournaments south of the border as frequently the better Scottish
players 
are unable to attend. The only way it can be done is to use tournaments 
which all the teams in question will be at but this is never going to 
happen. Recent performance assessment can only ever apply to non student

teams as the influx of new talent occurs every year and in some cases
each 
semester. It seems to  me that the present situation seems to be the
most 
logical especially as there is free entry to any of the regional
qualifiers. 
Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the Midlands...

Bess
Postivie Mojo (kind of)

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Subject: Pitch time/No. of teams at Nationals
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Britdisc,

 

OK this is a quick one, did anyone else have a problem with the amount
of pitch time at Nationals. Now 24 teams at nationals is fine at a venue
like Cheltenham which has more halls, but for a two hall tournament
isn't 16 teams the max that you can accommodate especially for the
premier event of the Indoor calendar? Personally I don't think 14 minute
Quarter finals are long enough (and SNOAP might agree on that one ;-) ),
it would have been nice to play at least the semis on the big pitch and
the four hour layoff between the semis and the final seemed like an
eternity. Perhaps we should consider restricting Nationals to 16 unless
we can find bigger venues. (but how would we allocate the 16 slots ?!?) 

 

Boston

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Subject: No. of teams from each region.
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>Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the
>Midlands...

Not entirely,
We chose to qualify in the Midlands (Nottingham) as it was more
convenient, fully expecting to find a quite tough regional competition.
On hearing the news that BAF were going to Weston, and Space Monkeys and
MHB were going to Sheffield we thought we might even qualify.
Unfortunately we underestimated our ability to lob the disc at the
floor. And while I try not to take anything away from the other
Nottingham qualifiers. I think they will agree that it might have been
tougher to qualify from some of the other regions.

Form changes from year to year and it's totally unfair to say that one
region is crap at ultimate so we'll only have 2 teams from there. Also
deciding how many qualify from each region based on the quality of the
teams playing there, is wide open to abuse. 

Teams change from tournament to tournament too e.g. BAF seeded 4 at
Warwick based on performance at previous tournaments where a full squad
wasn't able to attend. Bears 1 seeded 5 in Birmingham, when it was
mainly beginners. If Jon's algorithm feels like tracking the composition
of every team in every competition, and working out from that each
players impact on the team and therefore who has the strongest team,
then we don't even need nationals next year we can just read the result
off the sheet. ;-) 

If there was to be a different number of teams qualify from each region
the only fair way to do it would be based on the size of the qualifying
competition. e.g. Region with 32 team qualifying competition gets more
spots than region with 16 team qualifying competition. 

Lastly I think if I was organising the tournament and with 2 days to go
I had a cheque in my hand from a seventh placed team and only a promise
from a sixth placed team despite giving everyone involved at least a
weeks notice I would have taken Sublime's cheque. Tournaments are damn
hard to organise, we should be grateful we have so many tournaments to
go to. And help UKU and our TD's to make good decisions not have a pop
when things don't go quite the way they should. Ideally teams who can't
make it to nationals should not attend qualifiers. That way most of
these problems would go away. 

Congrats to Sharks.
See you all Schmoutdoors.

Tom

Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers
tom@block-stack.co.uk
www.block-stack.co.uk

Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder if
the same will happen outdoors :-)

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How do you propose assessing recent performance - it is unfair to use 
tournaments south of the border as frequently the better Scottish
players 
are unable to attend. The only way it can be done is to use tournaments 
which all the teams in question will be at but this is never going to 
happen. Recent performance assessment can only ever apply to non student

teams as the influx of new talent occurs every year and in some cases
each 
semester. It seems to  me that the present situation seems to be the
most 
logical especially as there is free entry to any of the regional
qualifiers. 
Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the Midlands...

Bess
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Could we not take something from students in having greater opportunity for
national competition through a 2nd division? Surely this might extend the
blessing beyond 18/24 teams, solve potential overcrowding problems (eg 2 18
team touneys at same/different venues). 

Obviously this is most ideal at places with huge a capacity (both tourneys
at same place), but still... if the opportunity arose... Certainly there
seems more than enough talent and interest, and though it may cut off more
people from 'the title' and qualification may still be an issue, at least
more teams would have a chance to play against high quality sides from
around the country, get a shot at some silverware, and enjoy their ultimate.

Maybe one for the future...

Pete (Lozza)
BlockStack @ Brunel STD

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Fellow ultimaters and britdisc readers,

Long time reader, first time 'mailer.'

Is it me or is anyone else bored with this debate? (Oh, how you'll spot the
irony as I now proceed to contribute my own two-penneth over the next few
paragraphs, but for those still bothering to read, please bear with me, I
may have a point...) Several issues seem to have been raised, here's how I
see it:

1. A team who should have been line for the next spot got "shafted" for
which they have my sympathies - I couldn't agree more, they should have been
offered the spot and a system should be put in place to stop cock-ups like
this happening again (ie. someone should simply check who is 'next in line'
from that region, offer them the spot subject to "a cheque been received
within XX days otherwise we ask the next in line", job done).

2. Inexplicably, this seems to have turned into a debate on how many spots
should be allocated to each region, but what is becoming painfully apparent
from all the various e-mails going around is that equal spots for each
region appears to be the best solution because (in summary):

- No one can judge the strength of any one team as squads vary due to years,
seasons, term times, rosters, availability, performance on the day.
- No one can judge the strength of any one region because no one can judge
the strength of any one team, and anyone can chose their region.
- It's fair.

It seems to me that some teams are lobbying for more places for their region
at the expense of others. If you feel that say for example any of the top 6
midlands teams would have finished in the Nationals top 10, but only 4 can
qualify and your team finished 5th, then tough. Next time play better and
get in the top 4 (then go to Nationals and prove it), after all this is a
sport and as such has to have an element of competitiveness, in this
instance generated by the number of qualifying spots.

Likewise, it's easy to say you would have made National top 10, but who can
discount the 'upset' factor (as seems to have happened at some regional
events) - it's always possible in sport. Some years ago my (then) team
Fingers 6 qualified for our first Nationals at the expense of our friends
(the much better 'on paper') Chevron Action Flash2 in one of the best games
of ultimate I've ever participated in. Alright, we got tonked left, right
and centre in the Nationals, and I have no doubt that CAF2 would have fared
much better (again based on that 'on paper' criteria), but just to qualify
was a great achievement for us in itself. You cannot predict these results
in advance otherwise what would be the point. And you cannot deny teams the
opportunity for these kinds of success (Ultimate is still one of the few
sports which places an emphasis on measuring success by performance and less
on positions. ie. teams can sometimes consider 10th a good result, where as
in other sports nothing but 1st is acceptable). The only solution: keep it
even, keep it fair (as is the spirit).

That's my thoughts (but feel free to discount the views of someone who,
admittedly, no longer plays indoors anyway after Chevron's hilariously poor
display last year!!).

Ad (obviously bored at work).
Chevron Action Flash

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D374561415-21032002>Is it =
me or is=20
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now=20
proceed to contribute my own two-penneth over the next few paragraphs, =
but for=20
those still bothering to read, please bear with me, I may have a=20
point...)</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D374561415-21032002>1. A =
team who should=20
have been line for the next spot got "shafted" for which they have my =
sympathies=20
- I couldn't agree more, they should have been offered the spot and a =
system=20
should be put in place to stop cock-ups like this happening again (ie. =
someone=20
should simply check who is 'next in line' from that region, offer them =
the spot=20
subject to "a cheque been received within XX days otherwise we ask the =
next in=20
line", job done).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D374561415-21032002>2. =
Inexplicably,=20
this seems to have turned into a debate on how many spots should be =
allocated to=20
each region, but what is becoming painfully apparent from all the =
various=20
e-mails going around is that equal spots for each region appears to be =
the best=20
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times,=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D374561415-21032002><FONT =
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region because no one can judge the strength of any one team, and anyone =
can=20
chose their region.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D374561415-21032002>- It's =

fair.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D374561415-21032002>It =
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of=20
others. If you feel that say for example any of the top 6 midlands teams =
would=20
have finished in the Nationals top 10, but only 4 can qualify and your =
team=20
finished 5th, then tough. Next time play better and get in the top 4 =
(then go to=20
Nationals and prove it), after all this is a sport and as such has to =
have an=20
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possible in sport. Some years ago my (then) team Fingers 6 qualified for =
our=20
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paper')=20
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participated in. Alright, we got tonked left, right and centre in the =
Nationals,=20
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(Ultimate is=20
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success by=20
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Hi everyone,

Mwnci Wench are looking for 1 or 2 picks for the weekend.

If you are interested could you email me at kld9@aber.ac.uk, by 12 tomorrow, 
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I will have my phone on me from 1 tomorrow.

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If you aren't good enough to get in the top four in your region then you 
really shouldn't be good enough to win nationals.
Bigger pitches are the way forward, perhaps with a softer surface (say 
sand), and no walls to run into. And Italian chicks in bikinis.
We beat Sharks, so we're the champions.

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>Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
>nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder if
>the same will happen outdoors :-)

There are only 34 teams registered for Tour 1 according to the latest mail
Matt sent round. Does anyone know why? Are we losing or alienating some
potential outdoor players for some reason we could affect?

Is it simply because the teams needed for outdoors are so much bigger that
there are just as many or more players participating outdoors? Or because
the students are doing exams and then the student teams dissolve for summer
and most of them wait for indoors to come around again? Or because some
warped souls really like playing indoors much more than outdoors and don't
make the effort in the summer. Or because the Tour is seen as too stretching
and too much commitment? 

Can anyone make a stab at the impact of each of these factors vis-à-vis the
number of players who took part in the Indoor Cup and it's qualifiers this
season? (Which was how many - does UKU know?) Some kind of analysis would
seem a very worthy task for our new admin person ;-) Easy to look at the
database and see how many players  were rostered for an indoor team but are
not rostered for an outdoor one, then either guess why not (student indoor
team) or email 'em to find out why. 

I've no idea how proactive UKU is (or old BUF was) about looking at the
player base in terms of marketing strategy and understanding the players in
order to grow the sport - what would help would be if more of the strategy
documents and minutes of meetings were put on the website. As paid-up
members of UKU these are definitely things we could reasonably expect to be
published I would have thought, and that in turn might well stimulate more
people to participate and contribute. ...Ben?

Now come and get some outdoors action - the Frogs are waiting! ;-)
Silver Bear
cu#1



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From: Tom Styles [mailto:tstyles@protocol-systems.co.uk]
Sent: 21 March 2002 15:06
To: Bess S
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: No. of teams from each region.


>Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the
>Midlands...

Not entirely,
We chose to qualify in the Midlands (Nottingham) as it was more
convenient, fully expecting to find a quite tough regional competition.
On hearing the news that BAF were going to Weston, and Space Monkeys and
MHB were going to Sheffield we thought we might even qualify.
Unfortunately we underestimated our ability to lob the disc at the
floor. And while I try not to take anything away from the other
Nottingham qualifiers. I think they will agree that it might have been
tougher to qualify from some of the other regions.

Form changes from year to year and it's totally unfair to say that one
region is crap at ultimate so we'll only have 2 teams from there. Also
deciding how many qualify from each region based on the quality of the
teams playing there, is wide open to abuse. 

Teams change from tournament to tournament too e.g. BAF seeded 4 at
Warwick based on performance at previous tournaments where a full squad
wasn't able to attend. Bears 1 seeded 5 in Birmingham, when it was
mainly beginners. If Jon's algorithm feels like tracking the composition
of every team in every competition, and working out from that each
players impact on the team and therefore who has the strongest team,
then we don't even need nationals next year we can just read the result
off the sheet. ;-) 

If there was to be a different number of teams qualify from each region
the only fair way to do it would be based on the size of the qualifying
competition. e.g. Region with 32 team qualifying competition gets more
spots than region with 16 team qualifying competition. 

Lastly I think if I was organising the tournament and with 2 days to go
I had a cheque in my hand from a seventh placed team and only a promise
from a sixth placed team despite giving everyone involved at least a
weeks notice I would have taken Sublime's cheque. Tournaments are damn
hard to organise, we should be grateful we have so many tournaments to
go to. And help UKU and our TD's to make good decisions not have a pop
when things don't go quite the way they should. Ideally teams who can't
make it to nationals should not attend qualifiers. That way most of
these problems would go away. 

Congrats to Sharks.
See you all Schmoutdoors.

Tom

Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers
tom@block-stack.co.uk
www.block-stack.co.uk

Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder if
the same will happen outdoors :-)

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From: Bess S [mailto:bess0@hotmail.com]
Sent: 21 March 2002 13:36
To: prw102@york.ac.uk
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Shafted


How do you propose assessing recent performance - it is unfair to use 
tournaments south of the border as frequently the better Scottish
players 
are unable to attend. The only way it can be done is to use tournaments 
which all the teams in question will be at but this is never going to 
happen. Recent performance assessment can only ever apply to non student

teams as the influx of new talent occurs every year and in some cases
each 
semester. It seems to  me that the present situation seems to be the
most 
logical especially as there is free entry to any of the regional
qualifiers. 
Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the Midlands...

Bess
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Hi folks,

Just a reminder that there is a handicap disc golf tournament at my Quarry Park course this weekend 23-24 March. Anyone who likes throwing discs is welcome to come and play - if you are used to Ultrastars you can use them, though you are probably better to borrow a putter at least. I can lend discs if you don't have any.

You can choose to play on Sat or Sunday or both days. For one day it's £8.50 full price with £1 off for BDGA members and £2 off for students and unemployed. You get sandwiches included and there will be prizes for each afternoon grouping.

I'll check e-mail tonight and tomorrow night. Otherwise you can call me on 01926 864136. If I'm not in, I might have my mobile 0780 8100 380

It's a 9.45 am start both days. You can camp on the course if you like. Hope to see you there.

Del

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We need pick ups, we're currently set to iron man and what with running after 
my little monster, and several years worth of pasties and chips and custard, 
I'm so not up for huge amounts of pain!! Janet Hawes are a fun loving team 
who won party animal at the Flying Femme Fest (although were beaten at pool 
by Mavis)..nuff said?

Call Eve (Weava) on 07970 897 727




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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>We need pick ups, we're currently set to iron man and what with running after my little monster, and several years worth of pasties and chips and custard, I'm so not up for huge amounts of pain!! Janet Hawes are a fun loving team who won party animal at the Flying Femme Fest (although were beaten at pool by Mavis)..nuff said?
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Following up Jonathan's point,
                              there is also a pretty serious money issue for 
teams comming from far away. The setup for nationals doesn't sound that 
dissimilar to the teams:pitch ratio at Warwick earlier this year. I came 
from Scotland and it basically cost me over a pound a minute to play under 
80 minutes of ultimate. Fair enough, if it's a small tournament (in terms of 
importance) then it's your own choice to pay that, but for the national 
finals a team like Aberdeen gets "shafted". Limiting enterant numbers due to 
pitch numbers is a pretty logical thing, unless the TD is a money grabbing 
git (not directed at anyone).

Jon 'Le Boeuf' Good - faced with 3 hour flight to nationals in Melbourne

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>There are only 34 teams registered for Tour 1 according to the latest mail
>Matt sent round.

It worries me a little that I can quote this info, but...

numbers of teams entered into past Tours 
        Year   Entrants         Teams @ Events
        1997 - 38               (23, 28, 20, 25, 22)
        1998 - 39               (32, 32, 28, 28, 26)
        1999 - 43               (31, 32, 28, 32, 28)
        2000 - 35               (33, 28, 32, 29)
        2001 - ? I wasn't official statto for this one, so don't know.
                 I reckon the figures r @ www.ukultimate.com somewhere?


> Does anyone know why?
> Are we losing or alienating some potential outdoor players for some
> reason we could affect?

The Tour was designed to be elitist.
"Ultim8" wasn't just a play on words!

IMHO:

There are quite a few players/several teams that would like to play at a
more 'recreational' level than the Tour. Whether this is because they
just prefer it that way, or because they're beginners and don't want to
"drop in at the deep end", or whatever...

It seems to me that there has been a bit of a shortage of non-Tour
events in the last couple of years (apology: Ross-on-Wye not happening
last year didn't help, sorry!). 

On the other hand, there seem to be several non-Tour events appearing on
the 2002 calendar already. Cool. The question is, will representatives
of the 'serious' teams deign to attend?
One of the complaints heard about the Tour is that several teams below
16th don't get the chance to play against the top 4 unless they're
"lucky" in Tour 1. This is one of the reasons that the format of
Nationals was changed to a 32 team knockout in 2001.


I also think the money thing is kicking in, too.
Particularly when it comes to Students.

We see very few Student TEAMS competing REGULARLY in the Tour these
days.
OK, we see a fair few Student PLAYERS, but they're mostly playing with
their 'local' Open teams - Jesters/York/Loughborough with Red; and
Mythago with Headrush are two prime examples that spring to mind.

Is this due to the cost?
Tournaments used (3 or 4 years ago) to cost approx £65 and split between
an average team size of 7-12 would cost between £5 and £10 per head.
Last year and this look to cost approx £150 per tournament, more along
the lines of £10 to £15 per head based on a team of 10-15 players.

>Now come and get some outdoors action - the Frogs are waiting! ;-)

BAH! I've got MY sights set higher than the French!   :)

Wayne

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>From Wayne :
> It seems to me that there has been a bit of a shortage of non-Tour
> events in the last couple of years (apology: Ross-on-Wye not happening
> last year didn't help, sorry!).
>
> On the other hand, there seem to be several non-Tour events appearing on
> the 2002 calendar already. Cool.

It is true. But as luck would have it Skunks are still holding a
tournament on the 6th July. Same lush, flat, green, soft pitches. Just not
a tour event.

I know it is a long way off but considering that an email went out about
this i thought i would get the current interest becuase if it needs to be
bigger ( currently 24 teams ) then now is the easiest time for me to do
that.

So if you are one of those teams out there that aren't all that bothered
about rostering, and attending all of the tours then let me know and make
sure that the tournament goes ahead!!

Cheers, Trig
Skunks Cptn.


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I have played Ultimate for a few years now.  I have watched many players and a few teams, therefore I would like to respond with views (not answers) to some of the comments flying around.  My team(s) have always come in about half way up the seed tables and this is more to do with how they practice and how seriously they take the game.

“The Tour was designed to be elitist, when changed to a 32 team knockout.”   I was under the impression that it was to improve the ‘top teams’ abilities, improve their games standard and give them a better shot at Worlds and on the continent generally.  Has this worked… I get the impression it has.  Even though I am not a part of it, I am glad for those who are, that they have this option.

“Shortage of non-Tour events & more 'recreational' level.”  It’s true, with all the Official events going on there seems little space for other more fun events, and they have to shuffle around each other in hopes of a date that will produce enough teams to pay for itself.

“Are we losing or alienating some potential outdoor players?”  It take a significant attitude from the organisers of any team to not alienate some players (don’t get me started on this subject tho).  It happens, and at various levels.

“Students” last year, approximately a third of our students didn’t play either outdoors or during the summer.  I have not asked why, but thankfully most are back with us again this year.  But a substantial number did not pickup with any local team when they went home for summer, and this is an unfortunate situation.

“Beginners”  Our second team has many beginners and there is no option but to enter them into the Tour as the main source of game and experience.

Now for the controversial bit.  In Canada, I have heard they have a three tier league system in place like soccer here.  Obviously we don’t have the numbers, but would it be worth considering 2 smaller divisional events rather than 1 massive tour event.  More smaller venues would be available (more towns could host locally) and both divisions could still play the same weekends.  There would be a promotional/relegation concept to the top and bottom teams in each division.  New teams/players would feel that ‘deep end’ feeling and top teams still get the bonus of better/equivalent quality weekends.  It might mean that teams like mine might actually win an event occasionally.

Two penneth, thanks for your time.

Sam

(Controversially, Nottingham Ultimate)



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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have played Ultimate for a few years now.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I have watched many players and a few teams, therefore I would like to respond with views (not answers) to some of the comments flying around.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>My team(s) have always come in about half way up the seed tables and this is more to do with how they practice and how seriously they take the game.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“The Tour was designed to be elitist, when changed to a 32 team knockout.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>I was under the impression that it was to improve the ‘top teams’ abilities, improve their games standard and give them a better shot at Worlds and on the continent generally.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Has this worked… I get the impression it has.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Even though I am not a part of it, I am glad for those who are, that they have this option.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“Shortage of non-Tour events &amp; more 'recreational' level.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It’s true, with all the Official events going on there seems little space for other more fun events, and they have to shuffle around each other in hopes of a date that will produce enough teams to pay for itself.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“Are we losing or alienating some potential outdoor players?”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It take a significant attitude from the organisers of any team to not alienate some players (don’t get me started on this subject tho).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It happens, and at various levels.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“Students” last year, approximately a third of our students didn’t play either outdoors or during the summer.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I have not asked why, but thankfully most are back with us again this year.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>But a substantial number did not pickup with any local team when they went home for summer, and this is an unfortunate situation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“Beginners”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Our second team has many beginners and there is no option but to enter them into the Tour as the main source of game and experience.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now for the controversial bit.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>In Canada, I have heard they have a three tier league system in place like soccer here.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Obviously we don’t have the numbers, but would it be worth considering 2 smaller divisional events rather than 1 massive tour event.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>More smaller venues would be available (more towns could host locally) and both divisions could still play the same weekends.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>There would be a promotional/relegation concept to the top and bottom teams in each division.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>New teams/players would feel that ‘deep end’ feeling and top teams still get the bonus of better/equivalent quality weekends.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It might mean that teams like mine might actually win an event occas!
ionally.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Two penneth, thanks for your time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sam<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(Controversially, Nottingham Ultimate)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><BR><BR><P>Sam</P>
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sam,
 
    In all honesty that is a fantastic idea. I mean - the top 8 teams play
each other regularly and get good competition over the weekend. The two tier
idea has been proposed once or twice and you are about to get shot down with
the following arguments:
 
    (1) you are doubling the amount of tournaments which means we need more
people getting involved, finding a venue for 16 teams and doing it. Risky.
But IMHO it's doable, as currently there are limited venues which can host
an event the size of the tour
 
    (2) how do you handle crossovers? currently each tour there is a 5 - 12
crossover first thing sunday morning which usually holds true. Except you
get some huge upsets (like tour 4 last year where 6 teams ended up swapping
between top 8 and 9 - 16). So you would need to have both tournaments
running at the same time so that those who win can go into the 'Permier
League' and those who lose can drop into the 'Vauxhall Conference' on a per
tournament basis
 
    (3) how do you handle nationals? do all of tier 1 qualify and top 4 or
tier 2? Or those people who have are relegated fail to qualify and  those
who are promoted take their place? Or should nationals be open and available
to all as a staightforward knockout?
 
    (4) It means that people coming through don't get to see top flight
ultimate. Which is not good as it means people don;t come away from
tournaments having had the ability to watch top teams play and learn from
them, so the rate of learning slows. 
 
    Personally Sam I agree with you - I would say you stick with a division
for a year. If you finish bottom overall in tier1- you suck and should be
relegated. If you then play well the following year, you get promoted. It's
pretty simple.It means that you can't have 'one bad game' - you've got to be
pretty crap overall and therefore why should you be in that division.
Equally - if you continually 'whup ass' in tier 2 - what are you doing
there. Come up to the premiership, get the adulation of the fans and have a
go at kicking clapham's butt (it's quite easy when you get the hang of it).
It happens with most sports that have leagues - football, basketball,
korfball-  My korfball team has just finished near to bottom of the BKA
(British Korfball Association) National league division 1 and is facing
relegation to division 2, where hopefully they can regroup, refocus, examine
their weaknesses and come back a stronger team next year. Why should
ultimate be any different?
 
It won't happen this year - but it's certainly something worth thinking
about.
 
Paul - teamshark

-----Original Message-----
From: sam rey [mailto:samanir32@yahoo.com]
Sent: 22 March 2002 10:35
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: shaftin' and other difficulties


  

I have played Ultimate for a few years now.  I have watched many players and
a few teams, therefore I would like to respond with views (not answers) to
some of the comments flying around.  My team(s) have always come in about
half way up the seed tables and this is more to do with how they practice
and how seriously they take the game.

"The Tour was designed to be elitist, when changed to a 32 team knockout."
I was under the impression that it was to improve the 'top teams' abilities,
improve their games standard and give them a better shot at Worlds and on
the continent generally.  Has this worked... I get the impression it has.
Even though I am not a part of it, I am glad for those who are, that they
have this option.

"Shortage of non-Tour events & more 'recreational' level."  It's true, with
all the Official events going on there seems little space for other more fun
events, and they have to shuffle around each other in hopes of a date that
will produce enough teams to pay for itself.

"Are we losing or alienating some potential outdoor players?"  It take a
significant attitude from the organisers of any team to not alienate some
players (don't get me started on this subject tho).  It happens, and at
various levels.

"Students" last year, approximately a third of our students didn't play
either outdoors or during the summer.  I have not asked why, but thankfully
most are back with us again this year.  But a substantial number did not
pickup with any local team when they went home for summer, and this is an
unfortunate situation.

"Beginners"  Our second team has many beginners and there is no option but
to enter them into the Tour as the main source of game and experience.

Now for the controversial bit.  In Canada, I have heard they have a three
tier league system in place like soccer here.  Obviously we don't have the
numbers, but would it be worth considering 2 smaller divisional events
rather than 1 massive tour event.  More smaller venues would be available
(more towns could host locally) and both divisions could still play the same
weekends.  There would be a promotional/relegation concept to the top and
bottom teams in each division.  New teams/players would feel that 'deep end'
feeling and top teams still get the bonus of better/equivalent quality
weekends.  It might mean that teams like mine might actually win an event
occas! ionally.

Two penneth, thanks for your time.

Sam

(Controversially, Nottingham Ultimate)



Sam

Nottingham Ultimate

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=310124510-22032002>sam,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
In all honesty that is a fantastic idea. I&nbsp;mean - the top 8 teams play each 
other regularly and get good competition over the weekend.&nbsp;The two tier 
idea has been proposed once or twice and you are about to get shot down with the 
following arguments:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=310124510-22032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(1) you are doubling the amount of tournaments which means we need more people 
getting involved, finding a venue for 16 teams and doing it. Risky. But IMHO 
it's&nbsp;doable, as currently there are limited venues which can host an event 
the size of the tour</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=310124510-22032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(2) how do you handle crossovers? currently each tour there is a 5 - 12 
crossover first thing sunday morning which usually holds true. Except you get 
some huge upsets (like tour 4 last year where 6 teams ended up swapping between 
top 8 and 9 - 16). So you would need to have both tournaments running at the 
same time so that those who win can go into the 'Permier League' and those who 
lose can drop into the 'Vauxhall Conference' on a per tournament 
basis</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(3) how do you handle nationals? do all of tier 1 qualify and top 4 or tier 2? 
Or those people who have are relegated fail to qualify and&nbsp; those who are 
promoted take their place? Or should nationals be open and available to all as a 
staightforward knockout?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=310124510-22032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(4) It means that people coming through don't get to see top flight ultimate. 
Which is not good as it means people don;t come away from tournaments having had 
the ability to watch top teams play and learn from them, so the rate of learning 
slows. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=310124510-22032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Personally Sam I agree with you - I would say you stick with a division for a 
year. If you finish bottom overall in tier1- you suck and should be relegated. 
If you then play well the following year, you get promoted. It's pretty 
simple.It means that you can't have 'one bad game' - you've got to be pretty 
crap overall and therefore why should you be in that division. Equally - if you 
continually 'whup ass' in tier 2 - what are you doing there. Come up to the 
premiership, get the adulation of the fans and have a go at kicking clapham's 
butt (it's quite easy when you get the hang of it).&nbsp;It happens with most 
sports that have leagues - football, basketball, korfball-&nbsp; My korfball 
team has just finished near to bottom of the BKA (British Korfball 
Association)&nbsp;National league division 1 and is facing relegation to 
division 2, where hopefully they can regroup, refocus, 
examine&nbsp;their&nbsp;weaknesses and come back a stronger team next 
year.&nbsp;Why should ultimate be any different?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002>It won't happen this 
year - but it's certainly something worth thinking about.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=310124510-22032002>Paul - 
teamshark</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> sam rey 
  [mailto:samanir32@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 22 March 2002 10:35<BR><B>To:</B> 
  britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> shaftin' and other 
  difficulties<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>&nbsp; 
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have played Ultimate 
  for a few years now.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I have 
  watched many players and a few teams, therefore I would like to respond with 
  views (not answers) to some of the comments flying around.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>My team(s) have always come in about 
  half way up the seed tables and this is more to do with how they practice and 
  how seriously they take the game.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"The Tour was designed to 
  be elitist, when changed to a 32 team knockout."<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>I was under the impression that 
  it was to improve the 'top teams' abilities, improve their games standard and 
  give them a better shot at Worlds and on the continent generally.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Has this worked... I get the impression 
  it has.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Even though I am not a 
  part of it, I am glad for those who are, that they have this 
  option.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"Shortage of non-Tour 
  events &amp; more 'recreational' level."<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; 
  </SPAN>It's true, with all the Official events going on there seems little 
  space for other more fun events, and they have to shuffle around each other in 
  hopes of a date that will produce enough teams to pay for 
  itself.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"Are we losing or 
  alienating some potential outdoor players?"<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It take a significant attitude from 
  the organisers of any team to not alienate some players (don't get me started 
  on this subject tho).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It happens, 
  and at various levels.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"Students" last year, 
  approximately a third of our students didn't play either outdoors or during 
  the summer.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I have not asked why, 
  but thankfully most are back with us again this year.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>But a substantial number did not 
  pickup with any local team when they went home for summer, and this is an 
  unfortunate situation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"Beginners"<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Our second team has many beginners and 
  there is no option but to enter them into the Tour as the main source of game 
  and experience.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now for the controversial 
  bit.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>In Canada, I have heard they 
  have a three tier league system in place like soccer here.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Obviously we don't have the numbers, 
  but would it be worth considering 2 smaller divisional events rather than 1 
  massive tour event.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>More smaller 
  venues would be available (more towns could host locally) and both divisions 
  could still play the same weekends.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; 
  </SPAN>There would be a promotional/relegation concept to the top and bottom 
  teams in each division.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>New 
  teams/players would feel that 'deep end' feeling and top teams still get the 
  bonus of better/equivalent quality weekends.<SPAN 
  style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It might mean that teams like mine 
  might actually win an event occas! ionally.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Two penneth, thanks for 
  your time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sam<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(Controversially, 
  Nottingham Ultimate)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><BR><BR>
  <P>Sam</P>
  <P>Nottingham Ultimate</P>
  <P>07866 336643</P>
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Here are the long awaited results for the indoor nationals 2002.

1- Sharks - 2002 Champions
2-Mexican horse Bandits
3-Yo Mama
4-BAF
5-SNOAP
6-Sublime
7-WYWLAS
8-Angels
9-Red - Plate Winners
10-Hammerage
11-Space Monkeys
12-Urscumy
13-Discult
14-Whiplash
15-STD
16-O~dd Job
17-Positive Mojo  - Spoon Winners
18-Bears
19-Flyght Club
20-Fever
21-Purple Haze
22-Skunks
23-Trigger Happy
24-York

Spirit of The Game - Positive Mojo

I would like to thank the Sharks and the bandits for a great spirited =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here are the long awaited results for =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1- Sharks - 2002 Champions</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2-Mexican horse Bandits</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6-Sublime</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>12-Urscumy</FONT></DIV>
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I would imagine that entering a tour is now a more risky venture for 
student teams.  With the formation of UK Ultimate, I believe (I'm 
sure Ben will correct if I am wrong!) that it is now not possible to 
have more than one pickup per tour (as a guest).  When Phat 'Eds 
played all the tours and Nationals a few years ago, we picked up a 
few players when we were short.  From my experience students 
also have a very fickle nature, they tend to pull out the at the last 
minute which can leave teams stranded without pick ups.  

Due to these reasons and the higher tournament fees, it may be 
discouraging student teams from entering tour events.  It also 
reduces the opportunities for people wanting to pick-up for teams 
but not commit for the whole tour.  This could be solved by more 
fun tournaments, but the calendar is pretty full already and so it is 
risky also planning these tournaments due uncertainty with interest 
in the event.

I should add that: I think that UK Ultimate is a great idea and good 
for the future, I am just trying to answer some of the questions 
being asked.

Cheers,
Dave
(Phat 'Eds)

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From: Jason Clarke <py1jtc@bath.ac.uk>
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Subject: Basingstoke Ultimate... ???
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Im home over Easter (1 month) till mid april.
Anybody in the Basingstoke Area play Ultimate and want to 
meet up for a chuck about? What about over the summer?

Please let me know
Jason.

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More student-only tournaments is the answer to this. If such events need the
UK Ultimate 'stamp of approval' to make them well attended then that can be
done. I suggest that as many student reps as possible attend the student AGM
(whenever that is) to discuss what level/quantity of events you want.

A few less student teams in the tour isn't a disaster. What would be worse
is restricting the development of the Tour in order to accommodate a few
student teams.

I notice that there are still many student *players* in the tour - generally
the best players from the student clubs. This is an excellent thing as it
means that their experience can be passed down to their student clubs but
without requiring the commitment from a whole team. Shoving freshers into
the Tour doesn't make sense - they need more suitable events.

Ben

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From: "Dave Sealy" <MEA98DJS@sheffield.ac.uk>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Subject: RE: No. of teams from each region.


> I would imagine that entering a tour is now a more risky venture for
> student teams.  With the formation of UK Ultimate, I believe (I'm
> sure Ben will correct if I am wrong!) that it is now not possible to
> have more than one pickup per tour (as a guest).  When Phat 'Eds
> played all the tours and Nationals a few years ago, we picked up a
> few players when we were short.  From my experience students
> also have a very fickle nature, they tend to pull out the at the last
> minute which can leave teams stranded without pick ups.
>
> Due to these reasons and the higher tournament fees, it may be
> discouraging student teams from entering tour events.  It also
> reduces the opportunities for people wanting to pick-up for teams
> but not commit for the whole tour.  This could be solved by more
> fun tournaments, but the calendar is pretty full already and so it is
> risky also planning these tournaments due uncertainty with interest
> in the event.
>
> I should add that: I think that UK Ultimate is a great idea and good
> for the future, I am just trying to answer some of the questions
> being asked.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
> (Phat 'Eds)
>


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Don't know about elsewhere in the country but in leics the weather has been=
 manky,and the new breed of student beginners seem to prefer spending their=
 weekends going home for roast dinners with their families than rolling aro=
und in the mud enjoying ultimate- outdoors is too hard apparently!- how do =
we convince these people that outdoors is the real sport and indoors is sim=
ply a warm-up for the proper season!? Up til this point sadly we ca'nt put =
non-attendance down to exams, tho that may be a viable explanation for the =
lack of entries in the tour- esp after all the stick student teams get for =
only entering some of the dates and messing up the seedings- would people r=
ather have the same teams at every tour or see the places filled?

-----Original Message-----
>From : Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
To : britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Date : 21 March 2002 17:29:20
Subject : RE: No. of teams from each region.
>Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
>>nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder if
>>the same will happen outdoors :-)
>
>There are only 34 teams registered for Tour 1 according to the latest mail
>Matt sent round. Does anyone know why? Are we losing or alienating some
>potential outdoor players for some reason we could affect?
>
>Is it simply because the teams needed for outdoors are so much bigger that
>there are just as many or more players participating outdoors? Or because
>the students are doing exams and then the student teams dissolve for summe=
r
>and most of them wait for indoors to come around again? Or because some
>warped souls really like playing indoors much more than outdoors and don't
>make the effort in the summer. Or because the Tour is seen as too stretchi=
ng
>and too much commitment?=20
>
>Can anyone make a stab at the impact of each of these factors vis-=FD-vis =
the
>number of players who took part in the Indoor Cup and it's qualifiers this
>season? (Which was how many - does UKU know?) Some kind of analysis would
>seem a very worthy task for our new admin person ;-) Easy to look at the
>database and see how many players  were rostered for an indoor team but ar=
e
>not rostered for an outdoor one, then either guess why not (student indoor
>team) or email 'em to find out why.=20
>
>I've no idea how proactive UKU is (or old BUF was) about looking at the
>player base in terms of marketing strategy and understanding the players i=
n
>order to grow the sport - what would help would be if more of the strategy
>documents and minutes of meetings were put on the website. As paid-up
>members of UKU these are definitely things we could reasonably expect to b=
e
>published I would have thought, and that in turn might well stimulate more
>people to participate and contribute. ...Ben?
>
>Now come and get some outdoors action - the Frogs are waiting! ;-)
>Silver Bear
>cu#1
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom Styles [mailto:tstyles@protocol-systems.co.uk]
>Sent: 21 March 2002 15:06
>To: Bess S
>Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: No. of teams from each region.
>
>
>>Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the
>>Midlands...
>
>Not entirely,
>We chose to qualify in the Midlands (Nottingham) as it was more
>convenient, fully expecting to find a quite tough regional competition.
>On hearing the news that BAF were going to Weston, and Space Monkeys and
>MHB were going to Sheffield we thought we might even qualify.
>Unfortunately we underestimated our ability to lob the disc at the
>floor. And while I try not to take anything away from the other
>Nottingham qualifiers. I think they will agree that it might have been
>tougher to qualify from some of the other regions.
>
>Form changes from year to year and it's totally unfair to say that one
>region is crap at ultimate so we'll only have 2 teams from there. Also
>deciding how many qualify from each region based on the quality of the
>teams playing there, is wide open to abuse.=20
>
>Teams change from tournament to tournament too e.g. BAF seeded 4 at
>Warwick based on performance at previous tournaments where a full squad
>wasn't able to attend. Bears 1 seeded 5 in Birmingham, when it was
>mainly beginners. If Jon's algorithm feels like tracking the composition
>of every team in every competition, and working out from that each
>players impact on the team and therefore who has the strongest team,
>then we don't even need nationals next year we can just read the result
>off the sheet. ;-)=20
>
>If there was to be a different number of teams qualify from each region
>the only fair way to do it would be based on the size of the qualifying
>competition. e.g. Region with 32 team qualifying competition gets more
>spots than region with 16 team qualifying competition.=20
>
>Lastly I think if I was organising the tournament and with 2 days to go
>I had a cheque in my hand from a seventh placed team and only a promise
>from a sixth placed team despite giving everyone involved at least a
>weeks notice I would have taken Sublime's cheque. Tournaments are damn
>hard to organise, we should be grateful we have so many tournaments to
>go to. And help UKU and our TD's to make good decisions not have a pop
>when things don't go quite the way they should. Ideally teams who can't
>make it to nationals should not attend qualifiers. That way most of
>these problems would go away.=20
>
>Congrats to Sharks.
>See you all Schmoutdoors.
>
>Tom
>
>Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers
>tom@block-stack.co.uk
>www.block-stack.co.uk
>
>Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
>nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder if
>the same will happen outdoors :-)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bess S [mailto:bess0@hotmail.com]
>Sent: 21 March 2002 13:36
>To: prw102@york.ac.uk
>Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Shafted
>
>
>How do you propose assessing recent performance - it is unfair to use=20
>tournaments south of the border as frequently the better Scottish
>players=20
>are unable to attend. The only way it can be done is to use tournaments=20
>which all the teams in question will be at but this is never going to=20
>happen. Recent performance assessment can only ever apply to non student
>
>teams as the influx of new talent occurs every year and in some cases
>each=20
>semester. It seems to  me that the present situation seems to be the
>most=20
>logical especially as there is free entry to any of the regional
>qualifiers.=20
>Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the Midlands...
>
>Bess
>Postivie Mojo (kind of)
>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=center
style='text-align:center;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none'><u><span style='font-family:Arial'>A lot of
E-Mails
for Â£5.00<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>

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style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>Â </span>e-mail lists for sale:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1 million emails in total,
including
200,000 </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
  font-family:Arial'>UK</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>. Emails have been validated,
removing the bad ones. List comes on a CD in two files in &quot;comma
separated
value&quot; format, one file contains 200,000
</span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span
 
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>UK</span></st1:place></st1:countr
y-region><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> addresses, and the other
contains 1
million of the world + </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span
 
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>uk</span></st1:place></st1:countr
y-region><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The CD is available for just
Â£5 plus
1.50 p&amp;p in the </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span
 
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>uk</span></st1:place></st1:countr
y-region><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To
order
the list<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Hill<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Barvas<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The CD will be sent out by first
class post when your money has been received.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Note: The list does NOT contain
any
personal information (eg names of email owners)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Few thoughts from another Student Playing Tour:

A bunch of students of Tour standard won't be playing Tour this year because of the confusion surrounding rostering.  Those Jedi who fit in to this category will be trying to pick up or playing mixed tour instead.

Yes, we need more 'fun' tournaments for students to go to over the summer.  There are so few of them, Jedi are already talking about who's going to Glastonbury and whether we're going as Jedi or a 'fun' team.

Rachel's right about recruitment/attendance this year, Dave touched on a point about Students getting slack for messing up Tour seedings, and I quote Wigs (interviewed for studentultimate.com: 
SU: What did you like about student Ultimate?
CHRISTIAN: I can't comment too much, but it always struck me as a fairly independent community within Ultimate who do invaluable work in recruiting the players we need to help the sport keep expanding.

Student Ultimate is a separate community, and it is the lifeblood of the sport.  I personally think that Tours shouldn't be aimed at Students, and we shouldn't expect student teams to go to them [doesn't stop me wanting Jedi to go, but that's another issue].

Getting to my point: 
Can Tours be made more attractive to student teams?  Admirable gesture from Matt & Batchelor to make T1 entry 120 squid, but that's still gonna be expensive [my memory stretches as far back as Waynes re: entry fees, and I'm more cash-strapped now than I was as a 17 year old...]
Do we want Tours to be more attractive to student teams? Or are we happy for the better student players to 'defect' to better teams for the purpose of playing Tour?

Rich,
Jedi, LeedsLeedsLeeds, Chunky Monkey

----- Original Message -----
From: rachelparkinson@another.com
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:15:41 +0000 (GMT)
To: roger thomson <roger.thomson@oyster.com>, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: No. of teams from each region.

> Don't know about elsewhere in the country but in leics the weather has been manky,and the new breed of student beginners seem to prefer spending their weekends going home for roast dinners with their families than rolling around in the mud enjoying ultimate- outdoors is too hard apparently!- how do we convince these people that outdoors is the real sport and indoors is simply a warm-up for the proper season!? Up til this point sadly we ca'nt put non-attendance down to exams, tho that may be a viable explanation for the lack of entries in the tour- esp after all the stick student teams get for only entering some of the dates and messing up the seedings- would people rather have the same teams at every tour or see the places filled?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From : Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
> To : britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Date : 21 March 2002 17:29:20
> Subject : RE: No. of teams from each region.
> >Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
> >>nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder if
> >>the same will happen outdoors :-)
> >
> >There are only 34 teams registered for Tour 1 according to the latest mail
> >Matt sent round. Does anyone know why? Are we losing or alienating some
> >potential outdoor players for some reason we could affect?
> >
> >Is it simply because the teams needed for outdoors are so much bigger that
> >there are just as many or more players participating outdoors? Or because
> >the students are doing exams and then the student teams dissolve for summer
> >and most of them wait for indoors to come around again? Or because some
> >warped souls really like playing indoors much more than outdoors and don't
> >make the effort in the summer. Or because the Tour is seen as too stretching
> >and too much commitment? 
> >
> >Can anyone make a stab at the impact of each of these factors vis-ư-vis the
> >number of players who took part in the Indoor Cup and it's qualifiers this
> >season? (Which was how many - does UKU know?) Some kind of analysis would
> >seem a very worthy task for our new admin person ;-) Easy to look at the
> >database and see how many players  were rostered for an indoor team but are
> >not rostered for an outdoor one, then either guess why not (student indoor
> >team) or email 'em to find out why. 
> >
> >I've no idea how proactive UKU is (or old BUF was) about looking at the
> >player base in terms of marketing strategy and understanding the players in
> >order to grow the sport - what would help would be if more of the strategy
> >documents and minutes of meetings were put on the website. As paid-up
> >members of UKU these are definitely things we could reasonably expect to be
> >published I would have thought, and that in turn might well stimulate more
> >people to participate and contribute. ...Ben?
> >
> >Now come and get some outdoors action - the Frogs are waiting! ;-)
> >Silver Bear
> >cu#1
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Tom Styles [mailto:tstyles@protocol-systems.co.uk]
> >Sent: 21 March 2002 15:06
> >To: Bess S
> >Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> >Subject: No. of teams from each region.
> >
> >
> >>Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the
> >>Midlands...
> >
> >Not entirely,
> >We chose to qualify in the Midlands (Nottingham) as it was more
> >convenient, fully expecting to find a quite tough regional competition.
> >On hearing the news that BAF were going to Weston, and Space Monkeys and
> >MHB were going to Sheffield we thought we might even qualify.
> >Unfortunately we underestimated our ability to lob the disc at the
> >floor. And while I try not to take anything away from the other
> >Nottingham qualifiers. I think they will agree that it might have been
> >tougher to qualify from some of the other regions.
> >
> >Form changes from year to year and it's totally unfair to say that one
> >region is crap at ultimate so we'll only have 2 teams from there. Also
> >deciding how many qualify from each region based on the quality of the
> >teams playing there, is wide open to abuse. 
> >
> >Teams change from tournament to tournament too e.g. BAF seeded 4 at
> >Warwick based on performance at previous tournaments where a full squad
> >wasn't able to attend. Bears 1 seeded 5 in Birmingham, when it was
> >mainly beginners. If Jon's algorithm feels like tracking the composition
> >of every team in every competition, and working out from that each
> >players impact on the team and therefore who has the strongest team,
> >then we don't even need nationals next year we can just read the result
> >off the sheet. ;-) 
> >
> >If there was to be a different number of teams qualify from each region
> >the only fair way to do it would be based on the size of the qualifying
> >competition. e.g. Region with 32 team qualifying competition gets more
> >spots than region with 16 team qualifying competition. 
> >
> >Lastly I think if I was organising the tournament and with 2 days to go
> >I had a cheque in my hand from a seventh placed team and only a promise
> >from a sixth placed team despite giving everyone involved at least a
> >weeks notice I would have taken Sublime's cheque. Tournaments are damn
> >hard to organise, we should be grateful we have so many tournaments to
> >go to. And help UKU and our TD's to make good decisions not have a pop
> >when things don't go quite the way they should. Ideally teams who can't
> >make it to nationals should not attend qualifiers. That way most of
> >these problems would go away. 
> >
> >Congrats to Sharks.
> >See you all Schmoutdoors.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers
> >tom@block-stack.co.uk
> >www.block-stack.co.uk
> >
> >Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
> >nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder if
> >the same will happen outdoors :-)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bess S [mailto:bess0@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 21 March 2002 13:36
> >To: prw102@york.ac.uk
> >Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> >Subject: Re: Shafted
> >
> >
> >How do you propose assessing recent performance - it is unfair to use 
> >tournaments south of the border as frequently the better Scottish
> >players 
> >are unable to attend. The only way it can be done is to use tournaments 
> >which all the teams in question will be at but this is never going to 
> >happen. Recent performance assessment can only ever apply to non student
> >
> >teams as the influx of new talent occurs every year and in some cases
> >each 
> >semester. It seems to  me that the present situation seems to be the
> >most 
> >logical especially as there is free entry to any of the regional
> >qualifiers. 
> >Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the Midlands...
> >
> >Bess
> >Postivie Mojo (kind of)

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Found at Mix & Mingle:

Kodak APS silver camera.  Picked up after Chunky Monkey vs. We've Got Guns game 'cos 4odd players had the same camera, have only just got round to finding out that it doesn't belong to any of them.  Will return to anyone who can prove ownership.

Needed:

1. Pick-ups for Dublin.
Fickle nature of student teams & finances have made us short handed.  Please call me: 07956002710 if you're interested.  May well be able to help with transport as one of our boys is driving.

2. Code of Practice.
Our Union require a Code of Practice for each club [formalising how a member of the club should behave].  I've been trying to modify Tae Kwon Do's, but it's tricky.  Has anyone else done one/does anyone have suggestions?
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From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
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Rich,

I think there is a danger of falling into the old 'if it aint a Tour then it
can't be any good' trap. Sure student teams would like the idea of playing
in the Tour just as sunday league football teams would *like* to play in the
premier division. Obviously the contrast in ability isn't quite that wide in
ultimate yet and students will always be welcome in the Tour.

It would be much much better if we organised something more formal for
students which suits their 'separate community'. I'm not quite sure what
this might turn out to be (well its bound to get called the Student Tour
isn't it?!) and its almost a shame that student teams are all away from
their universities during the main summer season.

When you organise anything for large groups of people pleasing 'most of the
people most of the time' is usually achieved by:-

a) Offering choice.
b) Offering events at different ability levels so players can play at the
level thats right for them but also try out higher levels.
c) Running separate events where you can identify specific groups who have
particular needs.
d) Get those who want something to be involved in making it happen.

UK Ultimate can make a) and b) happen but c) and d) will need initiative
from students themselves. You have a student email list and a student AGM -
I suggest you use them. You also have extremely well-kept sports facilities
(paid for by tax-payers and your parents :-) available to you for virtually
nothing. I suggest you use those too.

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Hims" <rich8@mail.com>
To: <rachelparkinson@another.com>
Cc: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 24 March 2002 11:01
Subject: Student Summers


> Few thoughts from another Student Playing Tour:
>
> A bunch of students of Tour standard won't be playing Tour this year
because of the confusion surrounding rostering.  Those Jedi who fit in to
this category will be trying to pick up or playing mixed tour instead.
>
> Yes, we need more 'fun' tournaments for students to go to over the summer.
There are so few of them, Jedi are already talking about who's going to
Glastonbury and whether we're going as Jedi or a 'fun' team.
>
> Rachel's right about recruitment/attendance this year, Dave touched on a
point about Students getting slack for messing up Tour seedings, and I quote
Wigs (interviewed for studentultimate.com:
> SU: What did you like about student Ultimate?
> CHRISTIAN: I can't comment too much, but it always struck me as a fairly
independent community within Ultimate who do invaluable work in recruiting
the players we need to help the sport keep expanding.
>
> Student Ultimate is a separate community, and it is the lifeblood of the
sport.  I personally think that Tours shouldn't be aimed at Students, and we
shouldn't expect student teams to go to them [doesn't stop me wanting Jedi
to go, but that's another issue].
>
> Getting to my point:
> Can Tours be made more attractive to student teams?  Admirable gesture
from Matt & Batchelor to make T1 entry 120 squid, but that's still gonna be
expensive [my memory stretches as far back as Waynes re: entry fees, and I'm
more cash-strapped now than I was as a 17 year old...]
> Do we want Tours to be more attractive to student teams? Or are we happy
for the better student players to 'defect' to better teams for the purpose
of playing Tour?
>
> Rich,
> Jedi, LeedsLeedsLeeds, Chunky Monkey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rachelparkinson@another.com
> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:15:41 +0000 (GMT)
> To: roger thomson <roger.thomson@oyster.com>, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: No. of teams from each region.
>
> > Don't know about elsewhere in the country but in leics the weather has
been manky,and the new breed of student beginners seem to prefer spending
their weekends going home for roast dinners with their families than rolling
around in the mud enjoying ultimate- outdoors is too hard apparently!- how
do we convince these people that outdoors is the real sport and indoors is
simply a warm-up for the proper season!? Up til this point sadly we ca'nt
put non-attendance down to exams, tho that may be a viable explanation for
the lack of entries in the tour- esp after all the stick student teams get
for only entering some of the dates and messing up the seedings- would
people rather have the same teams at every tour or see the places filled?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From : Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
> > To : britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > Date : 21 March 2002 17:29:20
> > Subject : RE: No. of teams from each region.
> > >Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
> > >>nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder
if
> > >>the same will happen outdoors :-)
> > >
> > >There are only 34 teams registered for Tour 1 according to the latest
mail
> > >Matt sent round. Does anyone know why? Are we losing or alienating some
> > >potential outdoor players for some reason we could affect?
> > >
> > >Is it simply because the teams needed for outdoors are so much bigger
that
> > >there are just as many or more players participating outdoors? Or
because
> > >the students are doing exams and then the student teams dissolve for
summer
> > >and most of them wait for indoors to come around again? Or because some
> > >warped souls really like playing indoors much more than outdoors and
don't
> > >make the effort in the summer. Or because the Tour is seen as too
stretching
> > >and too much commitment?
> > >
> > >Can anyone make a stab at the impact of each of these factors vis-ư-vis
the
> > >number of players who took part in the Indoor Cup and it's qualifiers
this
> > >season? (Which was how many - does UKU know?) Some kind of analysis
would
> > >seem a very worthy task for our new admin person ;-) Easy to look at
the
> > >database and see how many players  were rostered for an indoor team but
are
> > >not rostered for an outdoor one, then either guess why not (student
indoor
> > >team) or email 'em to find out why.
> > >
> > >I've no idea how proactive UKU is (or old BUF was) about looking at the
> > >player base in terms of marketing strategy and understanding the
players in
> > >order to grow the sport - what would help would be if more of the
strategy
> > >documents and minutes of meetings were put on the website. As paid-up
> > >members of UKU these are definitely things we could reasonably expect
to be
> > >published I would have thought, and that in turn might well stimulate
more
> > >people to participate and contribute. ...Ben?
> > >
> > >Now come and get some outdoors action - the Frogs are waiting! ;-)
> > >Silver Bear
> > >cu#1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Tom Styles [mailto:tstyles@protocol-systems.co.uk]
> > >Sent: 21 March 2002 15:06
> > >To: Bess S
> > >Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > >Subject: No. of teams from each region.
> > >
> > >
> > >>Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the
> > >>Midlands...
> > >
> > >Not entirely,
> > >We chose to qualify in the Midlands (Nottingham) as it was more
> > >convenient, fully expecting to find a quite tough regional competition.
> > >On hearing the news that BAF were going to Weston, and Space Monkeys
and
> > >MHB were going to Sheffield we thought we might even qualify.
> > >Unfortunately we underestimated our ability to lob the disc at the
> > >floor. And while I try not to take anything away from the other
> > >Nottingham qualifiers. I think they will agree that it might have been
> > >tougher to qualify from some of the other regions.
> > >
> > >Form changes from year to year and it's totally unfair to say that one
> > >region is crap at ultimate so we'll only have 2 teams from there. Also
> > >deciding how many qualify from each region based on the quality of the
> > >teams playing there, is wide open to abuse.
> > >
> > >Teams change from tournament to tournament too e.g. BAF seeded 4 at
> > >Warwick based on performance at previous tournaments where a full squad
> > >wasn't able to attend. Bears 1 seeded 5 in Birmingham, when it was
> > >mainly beginners. If Jon's algorithm feels like tracking the
composition
> > >of every team in every competition, and working out from that each
> > >players impact on the team and therefore who has the strongest team,
> > >then we don't even need nationals next year we can just read the result
> > >off the sheet. ;-)
> > >
> > >If there was to be a different number of teams qualify from each region
> > >the only fair way to do it would be based on the size of the qualifying
> > >competition. e.g. Region with 32 team qualifying competition gets more
> > >spots than region with 16 team qualifying competition.
> > >
> > >Lastly I think if I was organising the tournament and with 2 days to go
> > >I had a cheque in my hand from a seventh placed team and only a promise
> > >from a sixth placed team despite giving everyone involved at least a
> > >weeks notice I would have taken Sublime's cheque. Tournaments are damn
> > >hard to organise, we should be grateful we have so many tournaments to
> > >go to. And help UKU and our TD's to make good decisions not have a pop
> > >when things don't go quite the way they should. Ideally teams who can't
> > >make it to nationals should not attend qualifiers. That way most of
> > >these problems would go away.
> > >
> > >Congrats to Sharks.
> > >See you all Schmoutdoors.
> > >
> > >Tom
> > >
> > >Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers
> > >tom@block-stack.co.uk
> > >www.block-stack.co.uk
> > >
> > >Its interesting that there's so many teams wanting to play in indoor
> > >nationals that we need to have FIVE qualifying competitions, I wonder
if
> > >the same will happen outdoors :-)
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Bess S [mailto:bess0@hotmail.com]
> > >Sent: 21 March 2002 13:36
> > >To: prw102@york.ac.uk
> > >Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > >Subject: Re: Shafted
> > >
> > >
> > >How do you propose assessing recent performance - it is unfair to use
> > >tournaments south of the border as frequently the better Scottish
> > >players
> > >are unable to attend. The only way it can be done is to use tournaments
> > >which all the teams in question will be at but this is never going to
> > >happen. Recent performance assessment can only ever apply to non
student
> > >
> > >teams as the influx of new talent occurs every year and in some cases
> > >each
> > >semester. It seems to  me that the present situation seems to be the
> > >most
> > >logical especially as there is free entry to any of the regional
> > >qualifiers.
> > >Admittedly I may feel differently if I lived in the Midlands...
> > >
> > >Bess
> > >Postivie Mojo (kind of)
>
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Dear Ulti Friends,

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From: alison smith <ickle_gizmo@yahoo.co.uk>
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Hey,
This is a message for anyone who was at the Women's
Indoor Nationals social on Saturday night.

Did anyone pick up a wallet from one of the tables at
the party by mistake?  It was on the table next to the
dance floor where everyone was playing the noisy
drinking games that involved shouting and dancing a
lot!  It's a dark blue wallet with light blue flower
print on it and a small quiksilver label.  I would
really appreciate it if someone knows what happened to
it as it contains a lot of important cards such as
cashcard, NUS, driver's license etc.  All the cards
have my name (Alison Smith) on them if that helps
idenitification/ proof of ownership.  

If anyone saw it left on the table at the end of the
night, or picked it up by mistake, please could you
let me know at this email address.  

Thanks,

Ali
BAPS

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From: "positive mojo" <the_cube_2002@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Student Summers & CUBE
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:52:14 +0000
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A shameless plug for a tournament...

I agree with all those emails about having the need for more student 
tournaments or "fun" tournaments available for people who can't afford the 
committment or time for the tours...

...which is why we decided to put on the C.U.B.E. (caledonia's ultimate 
beach event!).

All of the teams that came last year will, I'm sure, vouch for the fact that 
the CUBE was one of the most fun tournaments, without skimping on good 
ultimate played.

The dates are    27th/28th APRIL...

The tournament is NOT on the 4th/5th MAY (repeatedly I have asked for a 
change in dates on uku, but to no avail!).

www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/thecube

ONLY £35   -   far cheaper than one of the tours...

PLUS,  to my knowledge, it is the ONLY BRITISH BEACH TOURNAMENT.  Recognised 
by the newly formed BEACH ULTIMATE LOVERS ASSOC.

www.beachultimate.com

Thanks and sorry 'bout the plug!
NSC Dave

co-ordinator of C.U.B.E. 2002
Positive Mojo - Aberdeen.
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>From: "Richard Hims" <rich8@mail.com>
>To: rachelparkinson@another.com
>CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Student Summers
>Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:01:32 +0000
>
>Few thoughts from another Student Playing Tour:
>
>A bunch of students of Tour standard won't be playing Tour this year 
>because of the confusion surrounding rostering.  Those Jedi who fit in to 
>this category will be trying to pick up or playing mixed tour instead.
>
>Yes, we need more 'fun' tournaments for students to go to over the summer.  
>There are so few of them, Jedi are already talking about who's going to 
>Glastonbury and whether we're going as Jedi or a 'fun' team.
>
>Rachel's right about recruitment/attendance this year, Dave touched on a 
>point about Students getting slack for messing up Tour seedings, and I 
>quote Wigs (interviewed for studentultimate.com:
>SU: What did you like about student Ultimate?
>CHRISTIAN: I can't comment too much, but it always struck me as a fairly 
>independent community within Ultimate who do invaluable work in recruiting 
>the players we need to help the sport keep expanding.
>
>Student Ultimate is a separate community, and it is the lifeblood of the 
>sport.  I personally think that Tours shouldn't be aimed at Students, and 
>we shouldn't expect student teams to go to them [doesn't stop me wanting 
>Jedi to go, but that's another issue].
>
>Getting to my point:
>Can Tours be made more attractive to student teams?  Admirable gesture from 
>Matt & Batchelor to make T1 entry 120 squid, but that's still gonna be 
>expensive [my memory stretches as far back as Waynes re: entry fees, and 
>I'm more cash-strapped now than I was as a 17 year old...]
>Do we want Tours to be more attractive to student teams? Or are we happy 
>for the better student players to 'defect' to better teams for the purpose 
>of playing Tour?
>
>Rich,
>Jedi, LeedsLeedsLeeds, Chunky Monkey


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Hi all,

Now that the days are getting longer the summer practice in Reading is
re-starting.
So if you are in or the around the Reading area at 6pm on a Thursday come along
to Kings Meadow:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=471750&y=173750&zoom=1&isp=200&ism=500&arrow=y?190,19

The first practice of the year is on 4th April. There is also a Yahoo group
entitled: reading-frisbee

Thanks for listening,

Karl.




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His distinguishing characteristics are:
Called Tom, plays for BAF, trains with Aye-Aye, lives outside 
Norwich, is a teacher.

Anyone have anyway of getting hold of him?

Cheers,

Casey
Aye-Aye, Chunky Monkey

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Following is a list of the teams that have been entered into Tour 1 so far.

 

1)      STD Ultimate                          open                   

2)      Whey                                       open                 

3)      Bears mix                                open                            

4)      Bad Habits                              open                

5)      Blue Arse Flies 1                     open    

6)      Blue Arse Flies 2                     open                

7)      Red 1                                      open 

8)      Red 2                                      open                

9)      JB7                                          open                

10)  Mute                                        open                

11)   Albatross                                open                

12)   LeedsLeedsLeeds                 open                 

13)   Flyght Club 1                          open                

14)   Flyght Club 2                          open                

15)   Druids                                     open                 

16)  Rats of Nimh                           open                

17)  Sublime                                   open                

18)  Trigger Happy                         open                

19)  Un Poco Loco                         open                

20)  Chevron Action Flash             open                             

21)  Swivel                                      open                

22)  Hammerage                            open                

23)  Slipdisc1                                 open                

24)  Slipdisc2                                 open               

25)  Fusion                                     open

26)  Headrush 1                             open    

27)  Headrush 2                             open

28)  Clapham 1                              open

29)  Clapham 2                              open

30)  Strangeblue                             open    

31)  Shooting Project                     open

32)  Mud Culture                             open

33)  Team Sharks                          open

34)  Mavis                                       womans

35) Smash & Grab                        open

36) Pyramms & Frisbee               open

37) Mohawk Mwnci Magic             open

38) Skunks                                    open

39) Martie Mcfly                             open

 

We still have a few places available but you gotta be fast

 

      Adam & Matt





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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">4)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bad Habits<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">5)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Blue Arse Flies 1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">6)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Blue Arse Flies 2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open</I><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">7)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Red 1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open </I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">8)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Red 2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">9)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">JB7<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">10)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">Mute<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">11)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Albatross<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">12)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>LeedsLeedsLeeds<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">13)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Flyght Club 1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">14)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Flyght Club 2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><I>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">15)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Druids<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN><I>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">16)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rats of Nimh<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">17)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">Sublime<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">18)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Trigger Happy<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">19)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Un Poco Loco<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">20)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chevron Action Flash<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open <SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">21)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Swivel<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">22)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hammerage<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">23)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Slipdisc1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">24)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Slipdisc2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">25)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fusion<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">26)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Headrush 1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">27)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Headrush 2<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">28)<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">&nbsp; </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Clapham 1<SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>open<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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from Trig:
> as luck would have it Skunks are still holding a
>tournament on the 6th July. Same lush, flat, green, soft pitches. Just not
>a tour event.

I'm glad to see that there will still be a tournament in Southampton.

Any chance of an estimate on what this event might cost to enter ?
And any early ideas on whether games will be 'short' or 'long' ?

These factors may sway indecisive teams.

Wayne

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Um,  I'm about to agree with Paul Meaney!

>        In all honesty that is a fantastic idea. I mean - the top 8 teams play 
>    each other regularly and get good competition over the weekend. The two tier 
>    idea has been proposed once or twice

In case anyone missed it, the two-tier structure has just been trialled
in the 'London' Winter League.  There's some room for future
improvement, but I'd say it was generally a success.

>        (1) you are doubling the amount of tournaments which means we need more 
>    people getting involved, finding a venue for 16 teams and doing it. Risky. 
>    But IMHO it's doable, as currently there are limited venues which can host an 
>    event the size of the tour

I think it's VERY doable.

>        (2) how do you handle crossovers?

(without thinking about it in too much detail) a la Winter League, but
bigger?
e.g. hold a 16 team 'Div1' event and a 12-16 'Div2' event - and from one
event to the next you relegate/promote 2 or 3 (or more?) teams*. And
within each event you can still run the 5-12 crossover.

* you need to think about this carefully, so that all the games are
still relevant to something more than just promotion/relegation - e.g.
seeding in the next event.

>        (3) how do you handle nationals?

I think you break Nationals into smaller divisions, e.g. of 8 (maybe
even 6 ?), seeded by performance over the year - i.e. Tour results.

Which rather ruins it's separate identity... but still gives options for
a couple of upsets on the big day.

Depending on format.

>        (4) It means that people coming through don't get to see top flight 
>    ultimate. Which is not good as it means people don;t come away from 
>    tournaments having had the ability to watch top teams play and learn from 
>    them, so the rate of learning slows. 

Yeah, and my propositions above lessen the interaction between the 'top
flight' teams and the others.  I'm not so keen on that.

So, we need to find ways to encourage 'top flight' teams/players to come
to non-Tour events ? or have more top-to-bottom interaction somewhere
along the line ?

Wayne
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Didn't Chris Hughes suggest something very much like this at the AGM about
two years ago? Didn't he get shot down for some reason?

Divisions seem an ideal answer to dealing with growth. There was a huge fuss
the day someone suggested dividing indoors up into regions - would anyone
question that now?

Ben



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>
> Um,  I'm about to agree with Paul Meaney!
>
> >    In all honesty that is a fantastic idea. I mean - the top 8 teams
play
> >    each other regularly and get good competition over the weekend. The
two tier
> >    idea has been proposed once or twice
>
> In case anyone missed it, the two-tier structure has just been trialled
> in the 'London' Winter League.  There's some room for future
> improvement, but I'd say it was generally a success.
>
> >    (1) you are doubling the amount of tournaments which means we need
more
> >    people getting involved, finding a venue for 16 teams and doing it.
Risky.
> >    But IMHO it's doable, as currently there are limited venues which can
host an
> >    event the size of the tour
>
> I think it's VERY doable.
>
> >    (2) how do you handle crossovers?
>
> (without thinking about it in too much detail) a la Winter League, but
> bigger?
> e.g. hold a 16 team 'Div1' event and a 12-16 'Div2' event - and from one
> event to the next you relegate/promote 2 or 3 (or more?) teams*. And
> within each event you can still run the 5-12 crossover.
>
> * you need to think about this carefully, so that all the games are
> still relevant to something more than just promotion/relegation - e.g.
> seeding in the next event.
>
> >    (3) how do you handle nationals?
>
> I think you break Nationals into smaller divisions, e.g. of 8 (maybe
> even 6 ?), seeded by performance over the year - i.e. Tour results.
>
> Which rather ruins it's separate identity... but still gives options for
> a couple of upsets on the big day.
>
> Depending on format.
>
> >    (4) It means that people coming through don't get to see top flight
> >    ultimate. Which is not good as it means people don;t come away from
> >    tournaments having had the ability to watch top teams play and learn
from
> >    them, so the rate of learning slows.
>
> Yeah, and my propositions above lessen the interaction between the 'top
> flight' teams and the others.  I'm not so keen on that.
>
> So, we need to find ways to encourage 'top flight' teams/players to come
> to non-Tour events ? or have more top-to-bottom interaction somewhere
> along the line ?
>
> Wayne
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Wayne Retter
> mobile: 07970-903420
> w.retter@bigfoot.com
> office: 01737-273655
>

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>>        (4) It means that people coming through don't get to see top 
>> >>flight ultimate. Which is not good as it means people don;t come away 
>> >>from tournaments having had the ability to watch top teams play and 
>> >>learn from them, so the rate of learning slows.

>Yeah, and my propositions above lessen the interaction between the 'top
>flight' teams and the others.  I'm not so keen on that.

As a simple solution: you could start each league event with a giant 
crossover (top of div 1 plays bottom of div 2, 2nd in div 1 plays 
penultimate in div 2, etc.) This may be tedious for the top teams but it's 
only 1 game. Apart from giving less experience teams/players a chance to 
play more experienced people, it also gives scope for a lower seeded team to 
play a whole event in the top division if they play hard against a better 
team and win their cross over. If the 'better' teams are really better then 
the upset winners of the cross over should get relagated at the end of the 
same tournament, but have a wealth of experience they would otherwise have 
been deprived.

I'm not saying this is what should be, but it's one solution.

Jon Good - BAF, Flatball, MBB


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Very good point. At the moment we have 6 pitches ( can easily get more if
there is demand ). We should be able to get about 20-24 teams into that
with about hour long games. Hopefully there should be lots of other things
going on as well so am looking at around the 75 quid mark ( depending on
how much things like St Johns charge me. ) Shouldn't bee too expensive but
should be great fun. Usual camping and bar available most of the time and
hopefully lots of pitch time for everyone!

Trig

On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Wayne Retter wrote:

> from Trig:
> > as luck would have it Skunks are still holding a
> >tournament on the 6th July. Same lush, flat, green, soft pitches. Just not
> >a tour event.
>
> I'm glad to see that there will still be a tournament in Southampton.
>
> Any chance of an estimate on what this event might cost to enter ?
> And any early ideas on whether games will be 'short' or 'long' ?
>
> These factors may sway indecisive teams.
>
> Wayne
>
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If i understood correctly one of the benefits of the two-tier system would 
be that we can use smaller venues as we would only need to arrange 
facilities for 16(?) teams at a time - there wouldn't be much point in 
dividing the tour and then asking everyone to go along to the same venue 
anyway.
Personally I think the idea is great. However i hope that Nationals remains 
the same, as one big knock-out competition, where we get as many players 
from around the country as possible. If this means holding it in the same 
central location every year so be it.
Finally, and this probably isn't relevant for many outside the top 8, from 
what i have understood from the WFDF tournament cycle we have Europeans 
(Nations) in 2003 and Worlds (Nations) in 2004. This gives us a really good 
chance to focus on (geo)club ultimate in this country over the next 2 years 
and maybe try out new formats for the tournies during the year. Players 
needn't worry about playing a big summer tournament with the best club they 
can and so can hopefully help develop talent closer to home.
wigsy


>From: "Jon Good" <funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com>
>To: wayne@fluiddruids.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: shaftin' and other difficulties
>Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:22:17 +0000
>
>>>        (4) It means that people coming through don't get to see top
>>> >>flight ultimate. Which is not good as it means people don;t come away
>>> >>from tournaments having had the ability to watch top teams play and
>>> >>learn from them, so the rate of learning slows.
>
>>Yeah, and my propositions above lessen the interaction between the 'top
>>flight' teams and the others.  I'm not so keen on that.
>
>As a simple solution: you could start each league event with a giant
>crossover (top of div 1 plays bottom of div 2, 2nd in div 1 plays
>penultimate in div 2, etc.) This may be tedious for the top teams but it's
>only 1 game. Apart from giving less experience teams/players a chance to
>play more experienced people, it also gives scope for a lower seeded team 
>to
>play a whole event in the top division if they play hard against a better
>team and win their cross over. If the 'better' teams are really better then
>the upset winners of the cross over should get relagated at the end of the
>same tournament, but have a wealth of experience they would otherwise have
>been deprived.
>
>I'm not saying this is what should be, but it's one solution.
>
>Jon Good - BAF, Flatball, MBB
>
>
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I thought all Brits popping to the Italian beach ought to check out the
following website:

http://www.roseandcrown.it/UK_main.html 

See you there for the traditional 'post Paganello knees up'!

Sammy

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Dear britdisc ...

Reports of my passing are greatly exaggerated ... however, just to
clarify some of the wonderfully wild rumours which inevitably abound
when comets appear and palindromic dates suddenly seem commonplace ...
strange things *are* afoot, change *is* in the air ... and Sammy *is* on
the move!

Yes - 2002 is special for me, since it is the year I celebrate a
particular milestone ... a sort of "coming of age" in addition to
reaching 21 years of playing disc! It seems the right time to depart
these shores and begin afresh ... and what better place than New
Zealand!

I'm optimistic that all the fine details of jobs and flats will
eventually be resolved and have already booked my flight ... I leave for
Christchurch in mid June. The host for Mixed Tour 2, Arun Sharma, is
happy for me to use the tournament social as my farewell fling - so I
hope to see lots of familiar faces on Saturday 8th June somewhere in
Leeds before I go (details will be announced later).

There are plenty of events before then, starting with Paganello on the
Rimini beach over Easter ... so I hope to share a drink and a laugh with
friends old and new before I set off on my antipodean adventures! Mine's
a pint of their strongest ale ... and I may even buy you one back!

Apologies to the younger readers who neither know nor care about this
crusty old clown - I'm sure the normal britdisc bollux will resume
shortly (always assuming they find a fool to look after it when I go
;-)

Cheers

Sammy Neilson
Chevron Action Flash
ex-Stan, ex-Bears, ex-GB

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UK ULTIMATE DISC EVENTS DIARY 


See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates.

Contact UK Ultimate at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/

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29 MARCH 2002 (4 DAYS) - PAGANELLO (OVERSEAS)

Location: Rimini, Italy - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

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06 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT

Location: Dublin, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate]


These were posted on britdisc and eurodisc

JD

Main Email: jdcoakleyultimate@yahoo.co.uk

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13 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR I

Location: Bristol - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Adam Batchelor

Main Email: TBA

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20 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) - BRUNEL STUDENT OUTDOOR TOURNAMENT 

Location: Brunel University, Middlesex - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

    Brunel STD Ultimate Club, is hosting an outdoor tournament, on the 20-21st of April.
    This is an all skill levels tournament, so multiple team entries are more than welcome.
    
    Venue: Brunel campus, Uxbridge, West London.
    Tournament Fee: To be confirmed    
    Accomadation: In usual style(Student floors) for all who request it.
 
Cheers!


http://www.bigfoot.com/~brunelultimate


Gemma Taylor

Main Email: me01GMT@brunel.ac.uk

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21 APRIL 2002 (1 DAYS) - ULTIMATE RALEIGH

Location: Grantham Meres Leisure Centre - [Indoor Ultimate]


Hi there, this is a charity Open event with all proceeds going to Raleigh International.  The event will be running on Sunday 21st April at the Grantham Meres Leisure Centre on the two centre courts.  I've got spaces for 16 teams so get your name down quick if you want a place! Its only £40 a team to enter and remember its for a good cause.  All teams wanting to take part need to have let me no, via email,  by the 1st April.  It'll be a fun day out and i hope to see you there, Mike Mange Le Foufou.   



Mike Thwaite

1 GRANGE PADDOCK, Barrowby, GRANTHAM, LINCS, NG321DN

Main Email: thwaite2k@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01476562726

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27 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) -  CO-ED TOUR I

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam Rey

Main Email: TBA

Mobile: 07866 336643

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27 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIA'S ULTIMATE BEACH EVENT

Location: Aberdeen - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Britains ONLY OPEN Beach Tournament. 16 teams(5 aside), £35 per team. Come and join us for what can only be described as a UNIQUE experience. Soft, soft sand, tall dunes and ULTIMATE - what more could you ask for. 


http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/thecube


Dave Gardner

598c King Street,, Aberdeen,, , , AB245SQ

Main Email: the_cube_2002@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01224491350

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27 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) - MUTE- STUDENT CHARITY TOURNY

Location: Manchester - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

16 Teams- Fancy dress/themed/a hat/wig will do!!! This will be a sponsored i.e get your parents and relatives to pay for your tourny, event. Not camping (it's manchester!) floor space available. Money will goto Barnardos check this link for more info. http://www.barnardos.org/AboutBarnardos/index.html.
Minimum tourny fee off 10000p


http://manchesteruni.org


Dann Cleveland

64 Ashford RD, Withington, Manchester, , 

Main Email: manchesterultimate@yahoo.com

Alternative Email: ultimate@manchesteruni.org

Home Phone: 01613749116

Work Phone: 07811375015

Mobile: 07811375015

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28 APRIL 2002 (1 DAYS) - SLURREY SLINGERS ONE DAY WONDER

Location: University Of Surrey Guildford - [Indoor Ultimate]



We here at the university of Surrey are holding our 2nd ever tournament.
It is an open, indoor tournament and those of you who came last year will
know that it is just a one day affair.  The price is £35 per team and it is
on the 28th of April.  It was a great day last year and alot of teams
commented on the fact that although it was outdoor season, it was a breath
of fresh air to have a one day tournament.  If anyone is interested, please
let me know.


Stewart Fudge

Main Email: ce81sf@surrey.ac.uk

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04 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT OUTDOORS

Location: TBC - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Please contact Tim with any bids for this event

Tim Blair

Student Co-ordinator, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

Mobile: 07976 800051

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04 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - BRUGES (OVERSEAS)

Location: Bruges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

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09 MAY 2002 (4 DAYS) - ROTTERDAM (OVERSEAS)

Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

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11 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - WHO'S THE DADDY INVITATIONAL

Location: Newcastle - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Entry fee is £65 per team
Spaces available


Sean Hardy

124 Grovenor Road, Jesmond, Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE2 2RQ, 

Main Email: rabbit_shuffler@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: Fil_TheFreaK@hotmail.com

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11 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - BOURNE ON THE 11TH MAY

Location: Bournemouth Sports Club - [Outdoor Ultimate]


So you want to combine ultimate, good music, beer and guaranteed sun?

This is an open invitation to a tournament being held in Bournemouth on the 11th/12th May. 

You'll be playing on quality fields surrounded by woods with excellent facilities and we're gonna be getting in some DJs and bands to help along the atmosphere. We can cope with up to 24 teams, but as there is Rotterdam, and the Who's your Daddy tourny (in Newcastle) on the same weekend, I'm planning for a more intimate 12-16 team tournament - so you'll be playing plenty of teams and getting quality pitch time.

Camping is free and on site. Plans are for a cheap food option available all day. Also, so you don't have to move too far to get to your tents, it'll be an outdoors party (it's always sunny in Bournemouth) with bands and DJs.

I'm also really tempted to do an extra day on the Monday and run a mini beach ultimate tournament at the gorgeous Studland Bay. If you're interested in that, then let me know.

The cost of all this is only 100 quid per team. Please send cheques to William Parker
Flat4, 6 Rushton Crescent, Bournemouth, BH3 7AF


Will 
Druids/DHB Bournemouth/Yo Mama!



William Parker

Flat 4, 6 Rushton Crescent, Bournemouth, , BH3 7AF

Main Email: willparker77@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01202 461829

Work Phone: 01202 404685

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18 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR II

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Kev Lowe

Main Email: TBA

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01 JUNE 2002 (3 DAYS) - BRITOPEN02

Location: Eastbourne Sports Park - [Outdoor Ultimate]


The British Open makes it's long awaited return at a great new venue, with new surprises in store as ever. More details soon.


http:// TBA


Nolan

BritOpen Admin Office, 3 Wish Road, Eastbourne, East Sussex, BN21 4NX

Main Email: nolan@firebrand.co.uk

Work Phone: 01323 430700

Mobile: 07740084207

Fax: 01323 430223

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08 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED TOUR II

Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


COED TOUR II - WEBSITE TO FOLLOW



ARUN SHARMA

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712583578

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22 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR III

Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Bodicote Park hosted Tour 2 in 2001. This year, we'll have more fields, more teams, better food, bigger party. All for the same price. 


Paul"Stig" Unwin

44 Swinegate, Grantham, Lincs, , NG31 6RL

Main Email: punwin@grantham.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01476 577993

Work Phone: you're joking!

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06 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 33 1/3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


As the gods would have it the tour was not to be at southampton this year. A year can not go by without playing on southampton's flat, green, lush fields, and so Skunks are proud to present Tour 33 1/3 - The Unofficial Tour. It will be a fun event where you dont need to roster or stress. Cheap ( hopefully ), good fun, great pitches, what more do you need?


Andrew 'Trig' Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Alternative Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Home Phone: 02380 678866

Work Phone: 01962 815169

Mobile: 07786 384009

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13 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) -  CO-ED TOUR III

Location: Titchfield, nr Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


This will be the same excellent venue as Co-ed Nationals last year. All being well, we will also have the accommodation deal with the Holiday Inn again.


Simon Weeks

Main Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

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20 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR IV

Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TOUR IV

SPACE FOR WOMENS DIVISION AS LAST YEAR



ARUN SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, LS6 1DF, 

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712 583578

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04 AUGUST 2002 (7 DAYS) - WORLD CLUBS 2002 (OVERSEAS)

Location: Hawaii, USA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

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24 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED NATIONALS

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam

Main Email: TBA

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31 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - UK ULTIMATE OUTDOOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: King Edwards Place, Swindon - [Outdoor Ultimate]


hosted by Layout Dreams.

More details later.

Wayne Retter

8 Avon House, Rutland Close, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 1EH

Main Email: layoutdreams@yahoogroups.com

Home Phone: 01737-218489

Mobile: 07970-903420

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07 SEPTEMBER 2002 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY

Location: Glastonbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Glastonbury- as last year!!!


Arun Sharma

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712 583578

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I know these are sent out regularly, but I am a muppet
and haven't saved them...

I am a student and am looking for as much opportuntity
to play Ultimate these holidays.  Can anyone who goes
to or organises a practice in London that is open to
all, send me an e-mail with details.  Then I will know
when and where I can play, plus I will send an e-mail
to Britdisc with all those details.

Cheers
   Sox
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Si=20Weeks?= <theboyweeks@yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: Diary Dates for 2003!!
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Yes that's right. The subject title is not a typo.
These are the proposed dates for all main events for
the 2003 season.

The idea is that it gives those organising successful
tournaments this year the opportunity to provisionally
book the venue again for next year for the most
appropriate weekend.

If you have any comments then email me back, but don't
expect a rapid response as I am off to Rimini tonight!

Thanks,

Si Weeks

01/02 Feb
08/09 Feb
15/16 Feb 
22/23 Feb Co-ed Indoor Finals
01/02 Mar
08/09 Mar Open Indoor Qualifiers
15/16 Mar
22/23 Mar Womens’ Indoor Finals
29/30 Mar
05/06 Apr Open Indoor Finals
12/13 Apr
19/20 Apr Rimini (Overseas)
26/27 Apr Tour I
03/04 May Bruges (Overseas)/ Students
10/11 May Co-ed Event I
17/18 May
24/25 May Tour II
31/01 May Rotterdam (Overseas)
07/08 June Co-ed Event II
14/15 June
21/22 June Tour III
28/29 June
05/06 Jul Co-ed Event III
12/13 Jul
19/20 Jul Tour IV
26/27 Jul
02/03 Aug Window for Worlds/Europeans Event
09/10 Aug
16/17 Aug
23/24 Aug Co-ed Nationals
30/31 Aug
06/07 Sept Open Nationals


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Hello all,

	I'm a student from the US who spent a week in the UK earlier this
month.  I played a lot of disc with a variety of people during my
stay (even tried the bizarre indoor game at Birmingham).  Anyway, while
talking to some folks they said that the GB co-ed teams might be looking
for some players for worlds due to funds limitations.  I was probably
going to go and was hoping to contribute to a team while there.  I know
this is super early, but I wanted to get my name out there for people to
think about.

I guess I should put down some qualifications.  I'm 23, 5'8" tall, and 155
lbs.  I've been playing disc competitively for 10 years.  The first 4
years were playing mostly as a deep strike for my high school team
(current #1 HS team in the nation Paideia High School).  After that I
spent 5 years working mostly as a handler and man-to-man defender in
college at Georgia Tech.  Last year I was part of a quickly formed co-ed
team from Atlanta Georgia named Gridlock.  3 months after being formed we
qualified for US nationals.  Unfortunately we didn't qualify for worlds,
but for only being three months old and being the first nationals for many
of our players we thought our 13th place finishing was decent.  Also over
the past year I have been coaching the team from my old college.  It has
forced me to think about the game in new ways and come up with different
ways to motivate different players.  Over the years I have run a variety
of offenses (stack, sideline stack, box[Dog's offense], H-stack, Panther
and a German style offense) and defenses (man [my favorite], zone,
trapping zone, clam, wall, 2-3-2).  I pick up stuff reasonably quick and
can learn a new offense while on the field.

Well, that's about it.  Sorry for the long email.  I hope I'm not
offending anyone by being some stupid American who is looking for pick up.
But like I said I talked to a few people while in the UK and they told me
to give it shot because people might need players.  It has been a dream of
mine to play at worlds for the past 8 years.  Most of my friends got to
play in the juniors division back when worlds was in Scotland, but I
didn't have the cash.  So here's my chance to make it up.  Thanks for your
time.

Martin Aguilera

Oh, I forgot.  I can guarantee at least 4 layout Ds over the course of the
tournament.

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At last count there is only one Womens team entered into Tour 1, which =
is Mavis.

We would like to leave entry open until Firday 5th April and then leave =
you to decide whether you want  a womens section, join in with the men =
or just have your money back. We are totally flexible about this!

We have had enquiries for one other place but thats it. Not much =
enthusiasm from you lady's out there!

We are keeping all of the options open to you!

We want the womens tour to go ahead but we would also like some feed =
back from you as to what you would like and the way that it is going it =
doesn't seem as though it is going to happen.

Cheers

Adam & Matt





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Subject: RE:UK Ultimate membership
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There are now just over 1000 players registered as members to UK
Ultimate. If you've not yet sorted out your membership or paid your fee,
this note is to remind you what you need to do!
 
If you are playing in the OPEN TOUR this year please make sure you &
your team have all registered to become members of UK Ultimate. 
DEADLINE: 31 MARCH 2002.  http://www.ukultimate.com/register.asp  

Please also make sure you have paid your membership fees by FRIDAY 5
APRIL 2002. You can send a cheque for £25 (£16 for students) 
payable to 'UK Ultimate' 
To: 
UK Ultimate Administrator
44 Swinegate
Grantham
Lincs
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Write your NAME and your REGISTRATION NUMBER on the back of your cheque

Full membership gives you Eligibility to enter the official UK Ultimate
championships (The Tour, Outdoor Nationals, Regional and National
Indoors.) 

UK Ultimate also offers a Student Membership which has all the benefits
and eligibility of Full Membership at a discount rate. 

If you've been playing ultimate for fun and now want to get into the
more serious side of the game there is an offer of a free year's
membership. You'll not get the full benefits of membership but will be
eligible to play in all the official UK Ultimate events for one year. 
THIS OFFER IS ONLY OPEN TO PLAYERS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN ROSTERED FOR
PREVIOUS INDOOR OR OUTDOOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS OR TOURS!

UK Ultimate is responsible for the growth, development and promotion of
Ultimate Frisbee in Great Britain.

Any concerns to do with membership payments contact NJ
administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk or phone 0845 1773473


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To the UK Ultimate Association

I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere
else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in
membership fees, where is this money going?
What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to
the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc

Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour and
the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments.
If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership
benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments?

If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make
events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford for
the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not even
a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show rosters/results.

While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official
website for the Association?
If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year
(...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds)


Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association -
i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members
needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved.
You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is debated
and questioned.
But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION
OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not
discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event.

I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an association
that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to
debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to
play a game I have been happily playing for nine years.
What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??

Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or
structure)

Steve Henderson
(Bonkers)
(Stonkers)
(Geordie Whore)

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From: "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
To: "Steve Henderson" <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
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Ummm...
AGM - yes that was a forum.
Discussed on britdisc... Well it was advertised and a site dedicated to it.
Were we elected democratically... yes
Do you read your e-mails?
Adam Batchelor
Director UKUA
PS Your sums don't work!
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
To: <administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: membership fees and other questions


> To the UK Ultimate Association
>
> I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere
> else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in
> membership fees, where is this money going?
> What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to
> the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc
>
> Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour
and
> the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments.
> If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership
> benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments?
>
> If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make
> events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford
for
> the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not
even
> a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show
rosters/results.
>
> While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official
> website for the Association?
> If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year
> (...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds)
>
>
> Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association -
> i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members
> needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved.
> You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is
debated
> and questioned.
> But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION
> OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not
> discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event.
>
> I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an
association
> that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to
> debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to
> play a game I have been happily playing for nine years.
> What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
>
> Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or
> structure)
>
> Steve Henderson
> (Bonkers)
> (Stonkers)
> (Geordie Whore)
>
> This communication contains confidential information which may also be
> privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee named
> above. If you are not the intended addressee any form of distribution,
> copying or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have
> received this communication in error please notify the sender by e-mail or
> by telephone 0191 2366661 and delete it from your system and destroy any
> copies of it.
>

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To: "'Steve Henderson'" <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
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> What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??

yes. this has been discussed at length, on Britdisc. Also it was agreed on
and ratified at the BUF AGM last year. What? You weren't there? Oh. So why
are you complaining about how British Ultimate is run if you didn't even
bother to go to the AGM?

Andy

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From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
To: "'Adam Batchelor'" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>
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The AGM.
No I was not there.  Can I ask how many people were?  I have not met a
single person who was.

Elected democratically?
Same question. By how many people?

Discussed on britdisc? 
not in any details BEFORE THE EVENT.

Do I read my emails?
Yes

My sums don't work?
1000 members.
membership fees between 16 and 25 quid.
You do the sums.


If I am getting things so wrong, do you not think my statement of MORE
VISIBILITY is valid???

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
Sent: 27 March 2002 11:17
To: Steve Henderson
Cc: britdisc
Subject: Re: membership fees and other questions


Ummm...
AGM - yes that was a forum.
Discussed on britdisc... Well it was advertised and a site dedicated to it.
Were we elected democratically... yes
Do you read your e-mails?
Adam Batchelor
Director UKUA
PS Your sums don't work!
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
To: <administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: membership fees and other questions


> To the UK Ultimate Association
>
> I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere
> else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in
> membership fees, where is this money going?
> What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to
> the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc
>
> Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour
and
> the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments.
> If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership
> benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments?
>
> If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make
> events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford
for
> the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not
even
> a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show
rosters/results.
>
> While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official
> website for the Association?
> If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year
> (...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds)
>
>
> Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association -
> i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members
> needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved.
> You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is
debated
> and questioned.
> But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION
> OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not
> discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event.
>
> I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an
association
> that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to
> debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to
> play a game I have been happily playing for nine years.
> What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
>
> Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or
> structure)
>
> Steve Henderson
> (Bonkers)
> (Stonkers)
> (Geordie Whore)
>
> This communication contains confidential information which may also be
> privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee named
> above. If you are not the intended addressee any form of distribution,
> copying or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have
> received this communication in error please notify the sender by e-mail or
> by telephone 0191 2366661 and delete it from your system and destroy any
> copies of it.
>
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To: "'Andy Cotgreave'" <Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk>
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I think my questions are valid,
If you treat my questions with such contempt I think my concerns are doubly
valid.

I really hope I begin a meaningful discussion here.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 27 March 2002 11:17
To: 'Steve Henderson'
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Subject: RE: membership fees and other questions


> What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??

yes. this has been discussed at length, on Britdisc. Also it was agreed on
and ratified at the BUF AGM last year. What? You weren't there? Oh. So why
are you complaining about how British Ultimate is run if you didn't even
bother to go to the AGM?

Andy
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But what are we paying for - that was the main question wasn't it? ...and it
wasn't as confrontational as everyone seems to have made it - was it?? 

I am more than happy to pay the money if there is going to be a bit more
active promotion of our very clicky sport but I can't see any yet. I have
faith as it's still early doors for you guys but ...what are we paying for?



-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
Sent: 27 March 2002 11:17
To: Steve Henderson
Cc: britdisc
Subject: Re: membership fees and other questions


Ummm...
AGM - yes that was a forum.
Discussed on britdisc... Well it was advertised and a site dedicated to it.
Were we elected democratically... yes
Do you read your e-mails?
Adam Batchelor
Director UKUA
PS Your sums don't work!
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Subject: membership fees and other questions


> To the UK Ultimate Association
>
> I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere
> else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in
> membership fees, where is this money going?
> What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to
> the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc
>
> Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour
and
> the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments.
> If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership
> benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments?
>
> If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make
> events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford
for
> the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not
even
> a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show
rosters/results.
>
> While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official
> website for the Association?
> If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year
> (...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds)
>
>
> Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association -
> i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members
> needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved.
> You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is
debated
> and questioned.
> But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION
> OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not
> discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event.
>
> I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an
association
> that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to
> debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to
> play a game I have been happily playing for nine years.
> What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
>
> Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or
> structure)
>
> Steve Henderson
> (Bonkers)
> (Stonkers)
> (Geordie Whore)
>
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Steve and All,

Not one to usually defend Ultimate bureaucrats, but this has been
EXHAUSTIVELY discussed on britdisc, elections were very well publicised, and
you can't realistically expect any meaningful insurance for £25 a year.  

I think the people that handled the transition did an admirable job
(especially as they are volunteers).  I hope that the Ultimate community has
more realistic expectations for the UKU.  I, for one, would be satisfied
with an up-to-date website and a newsletter for my £25 this year (keeping in
mind that we aren't paying tournament taxes anymore) and hopeful of better
things next year.

Aram
CU#11

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 27 March 2002 11:04
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Subject: membership fees and other questions


To the UK Ultimate Association

I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere
else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in
membership fees, where is this money going?
What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to
the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc

Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour and
the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments.
If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership
benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments?

If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make
events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford for
the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not even
a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show rosters/results.

While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official
website for the Association?
If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year
(...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds)


Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association -
i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members
needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved.
You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is debated
and questioned.
But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION
OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not
discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event.

I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an association
that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to
debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to
play a game I have been happily playing for nine years.
What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??

Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or
structure)

Steve Henderson
(Bonkers)
(Stonkers)
(Geordie Whore)

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> 
> Discussed on britdisc? 
> not in any details BEFORE THE EVENT.
> 

here is a copy of a mail sent by Ben to Britdisc on Wed 28th Feb 2001:


Dear All,

This seems a good moment to publish the first draft of the association
proposal.

I would be very happy if as many people as possible took the time to read it
in full and give as much feedback as they like.

Much of the tone is of a 'we will do x' nature. Please don't take that to
mean its all been decided!

http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.doc (Word 97 - better quality)

http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.htm (Webpage)

Looking forward to the response....

Ben

Ben Ravilious
Secretary
British Ultimate Federation

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AGM, no I wasn't there and I imagine most people weren't there, BUT everyone
had a postal vote (if they registered for it).

Your guess of £20000 - might sound a lot to you, but most of it will go on
employing the full time admin person I imagine.


--
Neil Travers


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From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
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A couple of more simple (ignorant, to use your term) questions and then I
will shut up:

1.  If these (and other questions) should not be asked on Britdisc, and
instead directed to the Association, when is the next forum-based meeting?

2.  Where are the minutes from the AGM so that myself and others will no
longer be ignorant of the basic facts

3.  Before ANYONE is critical of me for not using the UKultimate to find
information, why not make that information EASILY accessable on the website.


I will shut up now.
Unless of course you call me ignorant again, Andy.
(and they were questions, not opinions)

Steve Henderson.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Cotgreave [mailto:Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk]
Sent: 27 March 2002 11:36
To: 'Steve Henderson'
Subject: RE: membership fees and other questions


> 
> I think my questions are valid,
> If you treat my questions with such contempt I think my 
> concerns are doubly
> valid.
> 

I only replied in the manner i did because the same questions you ask have
been answered OVER and OVER and OVER. Yes, on Britdisc. And yes, at the AGM.
I don't think it's adequate to use Britdisc to voice complaints like this:
they should go straight to UKUltimate people (of which I am NOT one - i have
NO role in UKUltimate). Mailing opinions to Britdisc is not a way to
precipitate change, or challenge something that several individuals have
devoted a vast amount of time to setting up. Ultimate in the UK has tried
many different ways of organising itself. UKUltimate is the logical next
step to creating a self-financed, more structured and organised body. 

It doesn't need people wading into Britdisc with ignorant opinions. And I am
afraid that your mail did display a lack of knowledge of basic facts. Search
the Britdisc archive for discussions of UKUltimate if you don't believe this
is so.

To support your opinions, I do agree that UKUltimate has relied too much on
Britdisc as a way of dispensing information: too many non-Britdisc readers
are left in the dark. And their website does not contain any pages about
what UKUltimate is about - I believe the organisers are aware of this.

Andy
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Steve,

To answer your questions before a full civil war erupts.....!

Better transparency is absolutely vital - you're spot on there. Unfortunately (and ironically) its quite hard to create a more transparent organisation when you aren't very transparent in the first place!

Don't worry - we're almost there and the number one benefit of your membership is will be a regular newsletter.

Full details of the proposal which was accepted last year is available here: http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.htm

Our voting system has now also changed so the next board of directors will be voted in (by postal vote) by player members such as yourself. Can't offer you much more transparent than that!

Hope you approve, (if not then stand against me at the next election ;-)

Cheers

Ben
President
UK Ultimate


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:04:29 -0000

>To the UK Ultimate Association
>
>I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere
>else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in
>membership fees, where is this money going?
>What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to
>the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc
>
>Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour and
>the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments.
>If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership
>benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments?
>
>If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make
>events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford for
>the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not even
>a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show rosters/results.
>
>While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official
>website for the Association?
>If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year
>(...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds)
>
>
>Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association -
>i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members
>needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved.
>You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is debated
>and questioned.
>But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION
>OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not
>discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event.
>
>I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an association
>that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to
>debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to
>play a game I have been happily playing for nine years.
>What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
>
>Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or
>structure)
>
>Steve Henderson
>(Bonkers)
>(Stonkers)
>(Geordie Whore)
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<P>Your concerns should have been brought up earlier - at the AGM you didn't go to, or otherwise a previous posting on Britdisc. As ever with the amount of people involved not everyone is going to be happy all of the time - but if in future you wish to start a meaningful discussion you could start with a more constructive email. A lot of people have put in a lot of work to this, and overly critical emails from apathetic players are not helpful. </P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;I think my questions are valid, 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;yes. this has been discussed at length, on Britdisc. Also it was agreed on 
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BD,

I've sent Steve a copy of "several" of the britdisc e-mails referring to
UKU, the Association, the voting in of directors,etc.... I'm sure when he's
read back through them he'll realise that UKU is the way forward for
Britsih Ultimate and offers valuable benefits that we will see emerge over
time

Any new organisation takes time to get itself up and running and I think we
all need to be patient to enable the "Directors" of UKU to get things
working the way they, and by impication we, think best....

NJ - For those players who may have been out of the loop for a while it may
be worth a reminder of the benefits offered by UKU and a draft timetable
for their delivery to be published on BD?

Balti
BAF 34


                                                                                                                     
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>
> Discussed on britdisc?
> not in any details BEFORE THE EVENT.
>

here is a copy of a mail sent by Ben to Britdisc on Wed 28th Feb 2001:


Dear All,

This seems a good moment to publish the first draft of the association
proposal.

I would be very happy if as many people as possible took the time to read
it
in full and give as much feedback as they like.

Much of the tone is of a 'we will do x' nature. Please don't take that to
mean its all been decided!

http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.doc (Word 97 - better quality)

http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.htm (Webpage)

Looking forward to the response....

Ben

Ben Ravilious
Secretary
British Ultimate Federation






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OK Steve - here are the people who went to the AGM along with the minutes, I
wasn't there but I think it's pretty clear what happened maybe head back
into your email or the britdisc archive
(http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~suaaz/BritDisc/) if you want to check the
discussion... OK it wasn't extensive but we were all invited to register to
vote for members of the board. If you've been playing so long I'm quite
surprised that you don't at least know of Ben Ravillious as he shows his
ugly face about enough.

For 25 quid we've now got an administrator, NJ, who's doing a great job of
firstly getting the money in, then perhaps things can get underway..... To
cover all the costs and provide active promotion of the sport as well as
supply the website and a newsletter 6 times a year is going swallow a lot of
money straight away.... the sport can't grow beyond it's means and that
means that the paying player base has to expand in order to provide the
capital to affect any real change in the national point of view on our
sport.

Basically things have been discussed, we were all encouraged to register for
a postal vote and got a special edition of Ultimatum (nice one Jack) and
democratic process continued it inexorable march towards the
Association...... It seems like you've missed out, not sure why, only you
have that answer.

Phil





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British Ultimate Federation AGM 2001
October 6th - Staverton Conference Centre, Daventry

MEETING STARTED: 19:22

PRESENT:-

Chris Hughes
Ben Ravilious
Ian Stebbing
Barry O'Kane
Wayne Retter
Tim Blair
Sam Rey
Tom Hopkins
Nicole Atkinson
Christian Nistri
Hannah Easter
Tom Styles


1.	PROPOSAL TO FORM THE PLAYERS ASSOCIATION

Votes for: 44
Votes against: 0

2.	ASSOCIATION CONSTITUTION

Votes for: 50
Votes against: 0

NB: Items 1 & 2 included results of the postal/email vote. 

3.	ASSOCIATION NAME

The choice of 'British' or 'UK' in the name was discussed. It was
unanimously agreed that 'UK' was preferable as it encompassed Northern
Ireland. The name 'UK Ultimate' was decided upon as a succinct and
descriptive name which avoided using an acronym.

4.	TIMETABLE

Because we do not currently have contact with all UK players it was agreed
that we would give anyone who wanted the chance to vote. The only
requirement was for registrants to specify which team they play for.

Deadlines:-

19th Oct: 	Candidates to register their interest
		Players to register for voting and to receive special
Ultimatum issue

29th Oct: 	Players to return their votes by post or via website

3rd Nov:	Announcement of board of directors at Cheltenham tournament.



5.	ANY OTHER BUSINESS

World Clubs 2002, Hawaii requirements: All nominated teams will be required
to provide a non-refundable deposit of £750 to the association by November
15th. This is to deter loss of UK places due to teams pulling out late. Any
lost deposits to be used to fund other WUCC 2002 attendees at the discretion
of the board.

Caretaking the BUF: The current BUF officers agreed to continue running the
BUF until the election of the UK Ultimate board of directors on 3rd
November.


Meeting Ended: 19:50

Ben Ravilious
Secretary


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Henderson [mailto:HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:29 AM
To: 'Adam Batchelor'
Cc: britdisc
Subject: RE: membership fees and other questions


The AGM.
No I was not there.  Can I ask how many people were?  I have not met a
single person who was.

Elected democratically?
Same question. By how many people?

Discussed on britdisc? 
not in any details BEFORE THE EVENT.

Do I read my emails?
Yes

My sums don't work?
1000 members.
membership fees between 16 and 25 quid.
You do the sums.


If I am getting things so wrong, do you not think my statement of MORE
VISIBILITY is valid???

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
Sent: 27 March 2002 11:17
To: Steve Henderson
Cc: britdisc
Subject: Re: membership fees and other questions


Ummm...
AGM - yes that was a forum.
Discussed on britdisc... Well it was advertised and a site dedicated to it.
Were we elected democratically... yes
Do you read your e-mails?
Adam Batchelor
Director UKUA
PS Your sums don't work!
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
To: <administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: membership fees and other questions


> To the UK Ultimate Association
>
> I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere
> else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in
> membership fees, where is this money going?
> What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to
> the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc
>
> Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour
and
> the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments.
> If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership
> benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments?
>
> If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make
> events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford
for
> the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not
even
> a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show
rosters/results.
>
> While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official
> website for the Association?
> If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year
> (...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds)
>
>
> Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association -
> i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members
> needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved.
> You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is
debated
> and questioned.
> But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION
> OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not
> discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event.
>
> I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an
association
> that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to
> debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to
> play a game I have been happily playing for nine years.
> What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
>
> Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or
> structure)
>
> Steve Henderson
> (Bonkers)
> (Stonkers)
> (Geordie Whore)
>
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Don't know much about Steve Henderson but he clearly doesn't receive many 
emails - this can only be an attempt to fill his inbox (even if it is all 
flames).

Someone somewhere is bound to point him at the Britdisc archives so he can 
read the 4 million emails on the subject that have periodically filled my 
inbox over the last year.

I know, I know, if you haven't got anything useful to say - don't say 
anything, then again its so rarely someone actually gets Kick Me tattooed on 
their back.

Ru

Headrush


>From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
>To: "'administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk'"  
><administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk>
>CC: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: membership fees and other questions
>Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:04:29 -0000
>
>To the UK Ultimate Association
>
>I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere
>else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in
>membership fees, where is this money going?
>What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to
>the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc
>
>Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour and
>the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments.
>If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership
>benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments?
>
>If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make
>events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford for
>the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not even
>a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show 
>rosters/results.
>
>While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official
>website for the Association?
>If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year
>(...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds)
>
>
>Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association -
>i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members
>needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved.
>You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is debated
>and questioned.
>But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION
>OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not
>discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event.
>
>I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an 
>association
>that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to
>debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to
>play a game I have been happily playing for nine years.
>What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
>
>Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or
>structure)
>
>Steve Henderson
>(Bonkers)
>(Stonkers)
>(Geordie Whore)
>
>This communication contains confidential information which may also be
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OK - so those of us who have followed the evolution of UKU 
from the old BUF will know most of the points raised - when 
the elections were, what the money will be spent on etc.  
The BUF exec have the confidence of the majority of the 
active britdisc members at any rate.  But that is no reason 
to slam down Steve's comments.  If these issues aren't clear 
to Steve then there will be hundreds of others in the wider 
ultimate community who also don't.  

If this message means anything it means that we still need 
to make an effort to communicate what uku is and who it is 
and what it is there for.  

There is no where on the uku which says who is elected on 
the uku - it even has some of the old contact details.  And 
as yet no statement about the uku.

Perhaps, we need to priorities putting up some information 
on what we are and where we are going - we can't rely on 
ultimate players having to go back through the britdisc 
archive to find out.  Partically for the large bulk of the 
ultimate community who isn't even on britdisc.  

Ben

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Andy Cotgreave wrote:

> > What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
> 
> yes. this has been discussed at length, on Britdisc. Also it was agreed on
> and ratified at the BUF AGM last year. What? You weren't there? Oh. So why
> are you complaining about how British Ultimate is run if you didn't even
> bother to go to the AGM?
> 
> Andy
> 

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I am a relatively new player to the game (less than a year), so most of you
will probably tell me to bugger off and mind my own business, but I have a
couple of comments to add to the debate.

Firstly, many thanks to whoever posted the association proposal on
Britdisc, I found it very useful in clearing up most of the questions I
have heard being raised here over the past couple of weeks. If more of us
had found this information earlier, perhaps some of these heated
discussions could have been avoided, but that said, I wasnt around when the
changes were originally being discussed, so couldnt have had any idea where
to find this document.

One of the points raised in the proposal was about "Alienation of new
players". I think one key point not raised here is the use of Britdisc
itself. I dont know if Britdisc is always like this, but since I have been
receiving the information, there has been nothing but a long string of
people arguing and bitching like a bunch of old women (no offence intended
to female players!) about what should be done and what direction the game
should be going in. This does nothing to gain the confidence of new players
or to encourage them to become further involved with the sport. I believe
the bottom line is that you cant transform a sport and the way it is run
overnight, and arguing about the problems and lack of transparency is not
helping a great deal. If people believe the current committee is doing a
bad job, then with the one member one vote system, they will be voted out
next election. Until that time, surely we should give the committe any
opinions they ask for, but then leave them alone to get on with what they
are trying to do, improve the game we all love playing.

Sorry for the rant-like post, but everyone else was having a go and I felt
left out!!!

Mark Richardson
Slurrey Slingers

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Putting stuff on the website is important (and one of the things agreed as part of the membership package)

However, getting a newsletter going and an administrator up and running have been highest priority.

We'll get there in the end! Sorry if service is a little patchy at first.

Ben



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:10:56 +0000 (GMT)

>OK - so those of us who have followed the evolution of UKU 
>from the old BUF will know most of the points raised - when 
>the elections were, what the money will be spent on etc.  
>The BUF exec have the confidence of the majority of the 
>active britdisc members at any rate.  But that is no reason 
>to slam down Steve's comments.  If these issues aren't clear 
>to Steve then there will be hundreds of others in the wider 
>ultimate community who also don't.  
>
>If this message means anything it means that we still need 
>to make an effort to communicate what uku is and who it is 
>and what it is there for.  
>
>There is no where on the uku which says who is elected on 
>the uku - it even has some of the old contact details.  And 
>as yet no statement about the uku.
>
>Perhaps, we need to priorities putting up some information 
>on what we are and where we are going - we can't rely on 
>ultimate players having to go back through the britdisc 
>archive to find out.  Partically for the large bulk of the 
>ultimate community who isn't even on britdisc.  
>
>Ben
>
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Andy Cotgreave wrote:
>
>> > What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
>> 
>> yes. this has been discussed at length, on Britdisc. Also it was agreed on
>> and ratified at the BUF AGM last year. What? You weren't there? Oh. So why
>> are you complaining about how British Ultimate is run if you didn't even
>> bother to go to the AGM?
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>
>_____________________________________
>Climate and Oceanography Group,
>Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics,
>Clarendon Laboratory,
>Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PU
>booth@atm.ox.ac.uk
>+44 1865 272933
>
>
>

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Sorry Ben,

It wasn't a critism.  I have no complaints.  I know that all
of you have put a hell of a lot into getting uku up and
running.  I was reacting to the slam down of Steve's
questions.  The website will come, association will get up 
and running.  I just think that questions like steve's 
shouldn't be considered dangerous or negative.  All it needs 
is for someone to point him in the direction of the proposal 
+ AGM + britdisc archive (as did happen).  

As a ultimate body we should be open to questions - if we 
start flaming them off as we did here, then they don't get 
asked and ultimate players continue with the questions in 
their heads and eventually get turned off.  The email was 
targetted more at the flamers than at ukua.

Any how I obviously have to much time on my hands at work,

ben



On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Ben Ravilious wrote:
> Putting stuff on the website is important (and one of the things agreed as part of the membership package)
> 
> However, getting a newsletter going and an administrator up and running have been highest priority.
> 
> We'll get there in the end! Sorry if service is a little patchy at first.
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:10:56 +0000 (GMT)
> 
> >OK - so those of us who have followed the evolution of UKU 
> >from the old BUF will know most of the points raised - when 
> >the elections were, what the money will be spent on etc.  
> >The BUF exec have the confidence of the majority of the 
> >active britdisc members at any rate.  But that is no reason 
> >to slam down Steve's comments.  If these issues aren't clear 
> >to Steve then there will be hundreds of others in the wider 
> >ultimate community who also don't.  
> >
> >If this message means anything it means that we still need 
> >to make an effort to communicate what uku is and who it is 
> >and what it is there for.  
> >
> >There is no where on the uku which says who is elected on 
> >the uku - it even has some of the old contact details.  And 
> >as yet no statement about the uku.
> >
> >Perhaps, we need to priorities putting up some information 
> >on what we are and where we are going - we can't rely on 
> >ultimate players having to go back through the britdisc 
> >archive to find out.  Partically for the large bulk of the 
> >ultimate community who isn't even on britdisc.  
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Andy Cotgreave wrote:
> >
> >> > What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
> >> 
> >> yes. this has been discussed at length, on Britdisc. Also it was agreed on
> >> and ratified at the BUF AGM last year. What? You weren't there? Oh. So why
> >> are you complaining about how British Ultimate is run if you didn't even
> >> bother to go to the AGM?
> >> 
> >> Andy
> >> 
> >
> >_____________________________________
> >Climate and Oceanography Group,
> >Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics,
> >Clarendon Laboratory,
> >Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PU
> >booth@atm.ox.ac.uk
> >+44 1865 272933
> >
> >
> >
> 

_____________________________________
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Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics,
Clarendon Laboratory,
Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PU
booth@atm.ox.ac.uk
+44 1865 272933



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Surely you have to come from Great Britain to play for the GB Team in the 
Worlds? (I could be wrong)

Just a thought....

Al
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--- In britdisc-daily@y..., "Martin R. Aguilera" <gt4545b@p...> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>	I'm a student from the US who spent a week in the UK earlier
this
>month.  I played a lot of disc with a variety of people during my
>stay (even tried the bizarre indoor game at Birmingham).  Anyway,
while
>talking to some folks they said that the GB co-ed teams might be
looking
>for some players for worlds due to funds limitations.  I was
probably

<< Blah Blah >>


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Having just read the recent e-mails regarding the UKUA I just thought I'd
add what support I can.
I've been playing Ultimate for about 7 years, started out as a junior & only
recently got back into the sport. It became clear that unless you were
affiliated with a student team it was hard to know about tournaments/results
etc. We still have a few players that are juniors & play GB and we get most
of our info of them. Now with the new association it is extremely
encouraging as it seems to encourage and involve really enthusiastic players
who find themselves a little isolated. I cannot say what a difference
already the new attitude has made to our team. GOOD LUCK !!!!!!

Tom
Kamaya Maya

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Booth [mailto:booth@atm.ox.ac.uk]
Sent: 27 March 2002 13:08
To: Ben Ravilious
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: membership fees and other questions


Sorry Ben,

It wasn't a critism.  I have no complaints.  I know that all
of you have put a hell of a lot into getting uku up and
running.  I was reacting to the slam down of Steve's
questions.  The website will come, association will get up 
and running.  I just think that questions like steve's 
shouldn't be considered dangerous or negative.  All it needs 
is for someone to point him in the direction of the proposal 
+ AGM + britdisc archive (as did happen).  

As a ultimate body we should be open to questions - if we 
start flaming them off as we did here, then they don't get 
asked and ultimate players continue with the questions in 
their heads and eventually get turned off.  The email was 
targetted more at the flamers than at ukua.

Any how I obviously have to much time on my hands at work,

ben



On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Ben Ravilious wrote:
> Putting stuff on the website is important (and one of the things agreed as
part of the membership package)
> 
> However, getting a newsletter going and an administrator up and running
have been highest priority.
> 
> We'll get there in the end! Sorry if service is a little patchy at first.
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:10:56 +0000 (GMT)
> 
> >OK - so those of us who have followed the evolution of UKU 
> >from the old BUF will know most of the points raised - when 
> >the elections were, what the money will be spent on etc.  
> >The BUF exec have the confidence of the majority of the 
> >active britdisc members at any rate.  But that is no reason 
> >to slam down Steve's comments.  If these issues aren't clear 
> >to Steve then there will be hundreds of others in the wider 
> >ultimate community who also don't.  
> >
> >If this message means anything it means that we still need 
> >to make an effort to communicate what uku is and who it is 
> >and what it is there for.  
> >
> >There is no where on the uku which says who is elected on 
> >the uku - it even has some of the old contact details.  And 
> >as yet no statement about the uku.
> >
> >Perhaps, we need to priorities putting up some information 
> >on what we are and where we are going - we can't rely on 
> >ultimate players having to go back through the britdisc 
> >archive to find out.  Partically for the large bulk of the 
> >ultimate community who isn't even on britdisc.  
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Andy Cotgreave wrote:
> >
> >> > What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious??
> >> 
> >> yes. this has been discussed at length, on Britdisc. Also it was agreed
on
> >> and ratified at the BUF AGM last year. What? You weren't there? Oh. So
why
> >> are you complaining about how British Ultimate is run if you didn't
even
> >> bother to go to the AGM?
> >> 
> >> Andy
> >> 
> >
> >_____________________________________
> >Climate and Oceanography Group,
> >Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics,
> >Clarendon Laboratory,
> >Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PU
> >booth@atm.ox.ac.uk
> >+44 1865 272933
> >
> >
> >
> 

_____________________________________
Climate and Oceanography Group,
Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics,
Clarendon Laboratory,
Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PU
booth@atm.ox.ac.uk
+44 1865 272933


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Mwnci see currently have a team with only one sub!! 
The team is made up of half beginners, half
experienced.

Any pick ups would be most appreciated. If interested
e-mail me.

Gump
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I stand corrected! Thanks to many people who emailed me!

Good luck Martin on finding a team and don't forget your promise of 4 
guaranteed Layout D's!

Cheers,

Al

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Women's Nationals 2002 kicked off, Friday nite with a salubrious 2 for 1 drinks offer at the Waterfront watering hole, in Nottingham’s south central.  Beneath the HUGE sign indicating a now defunct British Waterways building, the Bears drank until they were sure there was no beer left in the place (they wish) and the Divas were just arriving as the clock whizzed past midnight.  By around 1.30, they were all accommodated and asleep.

The party Saturday night was a kick-ass affair inside the building with eh huge British Waterways' defunct sign.  But still we ran the Mezzanine and the drinking games were impressive and at times scary and made a boys event look lightweight… Again the two for one offers brought full effect to the dancing, which the DJ had no idea how to deal with… 100+ fine looking ladies doing Jigs to what they liked.

Winners of the party were the alcoholics and Mavis… easy Tiger.

 

Anyway, they played a few games too…  and there was more than one upset to the tourney with Princess Layout startling some of the birds and the Bears & Janet not coping with the last night’s liquor… After a stunning final that for a while could have gone either way, can we congratulate everyone with this listing…?

 

1. FIERCE – Winners of Women’s Nationals 2002 

2. PRINCESS LAYOUT – Debut Appearance

3. BLUE ARSED FLIES

4. RED

5. MAVIS – Party Winners by default

6. SKUNKS – Did they make it to the party?

7. BAPS

8. BIRDS IN FLYGHT – Debut in the Top 8 (Respect)

 

9. BEARS – Winners of the Plate

10. PHAT CHICKS – not one among them!

11. DIVALUTION – Drinkin’ Girls

12. JANET HAWES

13. DURR’M GIRLZ – Drinkin’ Girls

14. SLIP DISC

15. MWNCI WENCH

16. FLAMING MONKEYS & FRIENDS – Winners of The Spirit (Respect)

 

Moments not caught on Film…

(unnamed) team lost on Forest Road (famous for its ladies)

The signing of the penis (fame & fortune prevails)

3 Months gone and playing on!

A dancer did stand on a table…

Distinct lack of a stripper…  (Where is Sammy?)

 

Still lost…

1 Blue Purse 

1 Black Jacket

1 Bears Hoodie

1’s Sanity

Found...

Old Disc

Blue Fleece

Inhaler

Beads (green string)

 

Thanks everyone, hopefully we can do it again next year… see you at the Flying Femme Fest, if not before.

 

xxx



Sam

Nottingham Ultimate

07866 336643

 



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<P class=MsoNormal>Women's Nationals 2002 kicked off, Friday nite&nbsp;with a salubrious 2 for 1 drinks offer at the Waterfront watering hole, in Nottingham’s south central.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Beneath the HUGE sign indicating a now defunct British Waterways building, the Bears drank until they were sure there was no beer left in the place (they wish) and the Divas were just arriving as the clock whizzed past midnight.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>By around 1.30, they were all accommodated and asleep.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The party Saturday night was a kick-ass affair inside the building with eh huge British Waterways' defunct sign.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>But still we ran the Mezzanine and the drinking games were impressive and at times scary and made a boys event look lightweight… Again the two for one offers brought full effect to the dancing, which the DJ had no idea how to deal with… 100+ fine looking ladies doing Jigs to what they liked.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Winners of the party were the alcoholics and Mavis… easy Tiger.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Anyway, they played a few games too…<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>and there was more than one upset to the tourney with Princess Layout startling some of the birds and the Bears &amp; Janet not coping with the last night’s liquor… After a stunning final that for a while could have gone either way, can we congratulate everyone with this listing…?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>1. FIERCE – Winners of Women’s Nationals 2002 </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>2. PRINCESS LAYOUT – Debut Appearance</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>3. BLUE ARSED FLIES</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>4. RED</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>5. MAVIS – Party Winners by default</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>6. SKUNKS – Did they make it to the party?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>7. BAPS</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>8. BIRDS IN FLYGHT – Debut in the Top 8 (Respect)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>9. BEARS – Winners of the Plate</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>10. PHAT CHICKS – not one among them!</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>11. DIVALUTION – Drinkin’ Girls</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>12. JANET HAWES</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>13. DURR’M GIRLZ – Drinkin’ Girls</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>14. SLIP DISC</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>15. MWNCI WENCH</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>16. FLAMING MONKEYS &amp; FRIENDS – Winners of The Spirit (Respect)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Moments not caught on Film…</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>(unnamed) team lost on Forest Road (famous for its ladies)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The signing of the penis (fame &amp; fortune prevails)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>3 Months gone and playing on!</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>A dancer did stand on a table…</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Distinct lack of a stripper…<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>(Where is Sammy?)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Still lost…</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>1 Blue Purse </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>1 Black Jacket</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>1 Bears Hoodie</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>1’s Sanity</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Found...</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Old Disc</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Blue Fleece</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Inhaler</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Beads (green string)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks everyone, hopefully we can do it again next year… see you at the Flying Femme Fest, if not before.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">xxx</SPAN></P><BR><BR><P>Sam</P>
<P>Nottingham Ultimate</P>
<P>07866 336643</P>
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Referring to a message from Warwick earlier this week, Britdisk needs either a 
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Isn't this something which should now be being run by UKU (first job for new 
committee?) and no longer by Warwick university???

Quoting from earlier this week


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I note that there are several teams on the Tour 1 list that *I*
recognise the names of, but know little more about (Mute; Albatross; Bad
Habits; Pyramus & Frisbee), and a few that are previously unknown to me
(JB7; Swivel; Rats of Nimh; Shooting Project; Martie McFly)

Greetings, and Welcome to the Tour to you all.
Please, tell us a little more about your team...

Then again, there are several teams that I know quite a bit about, and
have heard assorted rumours/observations about - if anyone would care to
clarify any answers, we could a book on predictions on how the year will
pan out (i.e. Final Tour Rankings)

whaddyafink?

Are Clapham going to win again?
Will they finish 2nd as well?
How are they splitting their 2 teams - evenly, slightly biased, or
definitely biased?
Their plans for what they're going to do when they "cross the pond" to
Hawaii are rumoured to be pretty intense.

Chevvy now have Open and Mixed teams, and several 'new' players.
Is the new look Open team going to give Clapham a run for their money?
It looks to me as though the Mixed team (unless it has another name?)
isn't playing the u8 Tour?

Will Fluid Druids improve upon their 2001 performances and properly
challenge the aforementioned teams, rather than just pushing them hard
on a regular basis?
They're not planning to travel to Hawaii just for a vacation.

How will inimitable LeedsLeedsLeeds fare?
Several of their players are "missing, presumed Chevvy"

Will TeamShark thrive on their more recent victories over Druids and
Clapham teams and repeat these performances?
They're off to Hawaii, too.

Where will Poco Loco fit into the picture?
Is there anyone else 'new' on the scene that needs paying attention to?

Smash'n'Grab appear to have lived up to their name...

Red, seem to have been quietly taking any abuse sent their way.
Probably running some assimilation or cloning program funded by a dodgy
proletariat?



Wayne
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> Referring to a message from Warwick earlier this week, Britdisk needs
either a
> new owner or relocation.
>
> Isn't this something which should now be being run by UKU (first job for
new
> committee?) and no longer by Warwick university???
>
> Quoting from earlier this week
>
>
> "Hi,
>
> The owner of this mailing list has left and I need a volunteer for a
> new owner, the new owner must be a member of the University,
> preferably staff. If there's no one suitable, I'll have to remove the
> list, I'll wait a month before I do so to give everyone a chance to
> read this email.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Maria
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> Red, seem to have been quietly taking any abuse sent their way.
> Probably running some assimilation or cloning program funded by a dodgy
> proletariat?

At least we don't have to buy in players from other teams!

Whoid Druids?

;-)

Red 10


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From: Hahaha <hahaha@sexyfun.net>
Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
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Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and
polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a 
*huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. Suddlently, the door open, and the Seven
Dwarfs enter...


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All,

My work virus checker picked up a virus within "Joke.exe" in "Snowhite and
the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" from "HaHaHa@sexyfun.net" which came
via britdisc....

Balti
BAF 34
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                                                 Subject:     Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the 
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Anti-virus software has detected a virus during a real-time scan of the
email traffic.

Date:      3/28/2002 0:4:26
Subject:  Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
Virus:      WORM_HYBRIS.M
File:        joke.exe
From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
To:          james.hewitson@zurich.com;
Action:   Uncleanable, Quarantined;

Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5
with scanengine 5.630-1025
and patternfile lpt$vpn.250
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Why do we get these kind of messages through? Is it because of an
advertising clause somewhere? and if so, is the best idea to run a new
e-group through the remarkably cheap Webleicester package that UKU have
negotiated for the website? I don't mind the occasional advert coming
through on the thing, but attachments with viruses are another matter all
together.

Any thoughts/ideas/wonderful solutions from anyone?

-----Original Message-----
From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com [mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com]
Sent: 28 March 2002 08:12
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; BAF_Ultimate@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the Seven
Dwarfs - The REAL story!


All,

My work virus checker picked up a virus within "Joke.exe" in "Snowhite and
the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" from "HaHaHa@sexyfun.net" which came
via britdisc....

Balti
BAF 34
----- Forwarded by James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 28/03/02 08:17
-----
 

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                                                 Subject:     Virus Alert -
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                                                 Seven Dwarfs - The REAL
story!                                         
 




Anti-virus software has detected a virus during a real-time scan of the
email traffic.

Date:      3/28/2002 0:4:26
Subject:  Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
Virus:      WORM_HYBRIS.M
File:        joke.exe
From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
To:          james.hewitson@zurich.com;
Action:   Uncleanable, Quarantined;

Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5
with scanengine 5.630-1025
and patternfile lpt$vpn.250
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to run a new e-group through the remarkably cheap Webleicester package =
that UKU have negotiated for the website? I don't mind the occasional =
advert coming through on the thing, but attachments with viruses are =
another matter all together.</FONT></P>

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anyone?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com">mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zu=
rich.com</A>]</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus =
Notes--&gt;Snowhite and the Seven</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dwarfs - The REAL story!</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>All,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>My work virus checker picked up a virus within =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject:&nbsp; Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The =
REAL story!</FONT>
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WORM_HYBRIS.M</FONT>
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james.hewitson@zurich.com;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Action:&nbsp;&nbsp; Uncleanable, Quarantined;</FONT>
</P>

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Mine too ....

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All,

My work virus checker picked up a virus within "Joke.exe" in "Snowhite and
the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" from "HaHaHa@sexyfun.net" which came
via britdisc....

Balti
BAF 34
----- Forwarded by James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 28/03/02 08:17
-----

                    Antivirus.Postmaster@

                    zurich.com                   To:
james.hewitson@zurich.com
                                                 cc:

                    27/03/02 23:04               bcc:

                                                 Subject:     Virus Alert -
ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the
                                                 Seven Dwarfs - The REAL
story!




Anti-virus software has detected a virus during a real-time scan of the
email traffic.

Date:      3/28/2002 0:4:26
Subject:  Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
Virus:      WORM_HYBRIS.M
File:        joke.exe
From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
To:          james.hewitson@zurich.com;
Action:   Uncleanable, Quarantined;

Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5
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From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
To: "BRITDISC" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
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Actually I think you will find that if the 'crappy' groups are managed
properly that you will get less irrelevent messages. For those who don't
like off-topic stuff this would be much better. I'm not suggesting we have
hundreds (we may already have all the ones we need in fact: (juniors, women,
GB)

I think we should pay for the premium no-ads service from which ever
provider we go for.

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fraser Macrae" <fmacrae@freeuk.com>
To: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
Sent: 28 March 2002 14:01
Subject: RE: e-groups


> I like the format of britdisc at the moment with everything to do with UK
> Ultimate in the one place. I don't like the idea of lots of little crappy
> groups, I'm subscribed to enough already. but if you chose yahoogroups,
> there is an automatic archive, you can have a daily digest of read the
> messages on the web, etc. It does have an annoying advert added to the
> bottom of every email though..
> my tupence
> Fraser
> (Sneeeky's, Fusion)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Ben Ravilious
> Sent: 28 March 2002 09:34
> To: BRITDISC
> Subject: e-groups
>
>
> We do need to set up some new email lists for everyone.
>
> I think Britdisc is quite vunerable to spam because its not moderated
> automatically (you don't have to be subscribed to post to it)
>
> I think we'll probably go for yahoogroups or something similar (anyone got
> any advice/preferences?) Having an daily digest feature would be good.
> Having a separate announcement-only list would be popular too. I also
thing
> we should make sure there is a choice of special interest groups as
Britdisc
> is a bit vague in its purpose.
>
> Thoughts and suggestions welcome (a Britdisc debate?)
>
> Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Godber" <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
> To: <james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> Sent: 28 March 2002 08:41
> Subject: RE: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the
Seven
> Dwarfs - The REAL story!
>
>
> > Why do we get these kind of messages through? Is it because of an
> > advertising clause somewhere? and if so, is the best idea to run a new
> > e-group through the remarkably cheap Webleicester package that UKU have
> > negotiated for the website? I don't mind the occasional advert coming
> > through on the thing, but attachments with viruses are another matter
all
> > together.
> >
> > Any thoughts/ideas/wonderful solutions from anyone?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com [mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com]
> > Sent: 28 March 2002 08:12
> > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; BAF_Ultimate@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the Seven
> > Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > My work virus checker picked up a virus within "Joke.exe" in "Snowhite
and
> > the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" from "HaHaHa@sexyfun.net" which came
> > via britdisc....
> >
> > Balti
> > BAF 34
> > ----- Forwarded by James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 28/03/02 08:17
> > -----
> >
> >
> >                     Antivirus.Postmaster@
> >
> >                     zurich.com                   To:
> > james.hewitson@zurich.com
> >                                                  cc:
> >
> >                     27/03/02 23:04               bcc:
> >
> >                                                  Subject:     Virus
> Alert -
> > ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the
> >                                                  Seven Dwarfs - The REAL
> > story!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anti-virus software has detected a virus during a real-time scan of the
> > email traffic.
> >
> > Date:      3/28/2002 0:4:26
> > Subject:  Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> > Virus:      WORM_HYBRIS.M
> > File:        joke.exe
> > From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> > To:          james.hewitson@zurich.com;
> > Action:   Uncleanable, Quarantined;
> >
> > Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5
> > with scanengine 5.630-1025
> > and patternfile lpt$vpn.250
> > (Embedded image moved to file: pic23811.pcx)
> >
> >
>
___________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > The information contained in this message is confidential and may be
> > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not
> > read, copy or otherwise use it and do not disclose it to anyone else.
> > Please notify the sender of the delivery error and then delete the
> > message from your system.
> >
> > Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author
> only.
> >
> > Thank you for your assistance.
> >
> >
>
___________________________________________________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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Ben,

I'd recommend yahoo groups as a good, but not excellent, choice. SkuMy and 
the Reading group both operate through them and there's no spam (but in my 
mind BD is pretty damn good anyway).

The only big draw-back is that it won't look particularly "professional" and 
that's part of the point of the Association I thought.

Anyway, as I'm not a techy I won't try and advocate too far there are 
probably plenty of people out there who can give you a better picture!

Cheers,

Angie

PS Great reply to Steve's point the other day, nicely diffused a few 
people's anger!


>From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
>To: "BRITDISC" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: e-groups
>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:33:40 -0000
>
>We do need to set up some new email lists for everyone.
>
>I think Britdisc is quite vunerable to spam because its not moderated
>automatically (you don't have to be subscribed to post to it)
>
>I think we'll probably go for yahoogroups or something similar (anyone got
>any advice/preferences?) Having an daily digest feature would be good.
>Having a separate announcement-only list would be popular too. I also thing
>we should make sure there is a choice of special interest groups as 
>Britdisc
>is a bit vague in its purpose.
>
>Thoughts and suggestions welcome (a Britdisc debate?)
>
>Ben
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andrew Godber" <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
>To: <james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Sent: 28 March 2002 08:41
>Subject: RE: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the 
>Seven
>Dwarfs - The REAL story!
>
>
> > Why do we get these kind of messages through? Is it because of an
> > advertising clause somewhere? and if so, is the best idea to run a new
> > e-group through the remarkably cheap Webleicester package that UKU have
> > negotiated for the website? I don't mind the occasional advert coming
> > through on the thing, but attachments with viruses are another matter 
>all
> > together.
> >
> > Any thoughts/ideas/wonderful solutions from anyone?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com [mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com]
> > Sent: 28 March 2002 08:12
> > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; BAF_Ultimate@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the Seven
> > Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > My work virus checker picked up a virus within "Joke.exe" in "Snowhite 
>and
> > the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" from "HaHaHa@sexyfun.net" which came
> > via britdisc....
> >
> > Balti
> > BAF 34
> > ----- Forwarded by James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 28/03/02 08:17
> > -----
> >
> >
> >                     Antivirus.Postmaster@
> >
> >                     zurich.com                   To:
> > james.hewitson@zurich.com
> >                                                  cc:
> >
> >                     27/03/02 23:04               bcc:
> >
> >                                                  Subject:     Virus
>Alert -
> > ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the
> >                                                  Seven Dwarfs - The REAL
> > story!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anti-virus software has detected a virus during a real-time scan of the
> > email traffic.
> >
> > Date:      3/28/2002 0:4:26
> > Subject:  Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> > Virus:      WORM_HYBRIS.M
> > File:        joke.exe
> > From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> > To:          james.hewitson@zurich.com;
> > Action:   Uncleanable, Quarantined;
> >
> > Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5
> > with scanengine 5.630-1025
> > and patternfile lpt$vpn.250
> > (Embedded image moved to file: pic23811.pcx)
> >
> >
>___________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > The information contained in this message is confidential and may be
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> >
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Hi all,

If you are interested in Surrey's one day tournie, you can still e-mail
me, Stew Fudge at ce81sf@surrey.ac.uk or Rob Jackson on ma81rj@surrey.ac.uk. 
Both myself and Rob will be around university so we will get your e-mail.
Kind regards

Stew Fudge
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You'll have to excuse me, I'm having a drink...
Here's to Steve! (membership fees and other questions)  I feel for you...
As a two penneth man and the one locally generating fiery responses, I just
want to say, we have a whole year to decide if we do/don't like what is
going on for UKU and a better chance of doing something about it than
affecting those who govern our country, businesses and world!
After most revolutions there is another...  Possibly because people don't
see things happening fast enough.  Or 'cos they think "ohh, I can do that...
and better" whatever.
I was at the AGM that decided three were many, as you would expect there
were a whole group of people discussing football (girls game) in a corner,
not listening to the decisions being made.  There were many excellent points
raised which contradicted the proposed veiws attitudes and recommendations
and they were discussed... often to a suitable conclusion. 
I dont doubt that the transition from Fed to Assoc takes time, and there is
a bit of pot of money (about one years wage for many reading this) and i am
pretty confident that as long as they don't let me near it, the cash will be
spent productively.  I see Steves point about Visibility & Transparency both
are subject which need to be addressed and i am looking forward to seeing
some of those.
Can i take this opportunity to connect this issue to another recently
discussed point.  Student Membership.  Considering many people (not just
Steve) are a litttle short on the facts and consequences of the forming of
the UKU, it is understandable that there will be a drop in membership.  Even
without a few unsure people there we would expect a period of adjustment to
take place.  
Oo, another drink... Here's to the future of UK Ultimate... to more Women in
the game, to more Asians and Blacks... and the Juniors.  To the Scots doing
better, to the CUBE beach fest and to the long desired summer & whinging
pommes! where would we be without them?
I love drinking at work.  Keeps the ideas coming...

Sam
Inbred n Fly!

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Hi Britdisc,

Results from last weekends Quarry Park Handicap in Leamington Spa have been 
posted on www.OBmegazine.com

If you visit the website you may notice there's been a few changes.
An interactive/community area has been added called the 'Megazone'.
This contains a discussion/announcements forum and a friendly chat room.

The Megazone aims to encourage people/players to make their own 
contributions to the site (from the relative safety of their own work 
station) and to provide more information and interest to people visiting 
the site.

This will also give TD's an additional opportunity to publish information 
about their tournaments, and provide opportunity for the disc golf 
community to discuss relevant issues.

For example, visit the recent posting for the next tournament in Bristol.
http://pub73.ezboard.com/fobmegazinemegazonefrm14.showMessage?topicID=4.topic

 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

BDGA British Open 3-5 May, Isle of Mull, Scotland
The tournament has 33 players registered so far.
See who's coming - 
http://www.discgolf.co.uk/open/regplayerbyevent.asp?eventid=2
Have you registered yet? You can register online through the website 
www.discgolf.co.uk/open

Next BDGA Tournament
Bristol, 13/14 April.

Have a good Easter.

Richard
BDGA # 74


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To: "'Ben Ravilious'" <ben@ravilious.net>,
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Well, as most other teams, we have got two lists set up for our club: one
with tournament announcements, and important practice info, and one with
general discussions about what colour shirts we want, how we should drill,
what we are having for dinner, etc. That way people can choose to subscribe
to all the crap if they want to, or just stick with important stuff, and not
spend a Wednesday morning reading non-stop repetitive arguments about
whether someone had a valid point about AGM's. (For example) If you add
special digests into this as well, it could be an easy way to get the info,
without the extraneous material.

Yahoogroups are good, but they have started sending adverts on the bottom of
their e-mails. The service can get a little slow to some people, but
generally they are OK.

Andy
Slipdisc

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
Sent: 28 March 2002 09:34
To: BRITDISC
Subject: e-groups


We do need to set up some new email lists for everyone.

I think Britdisc is quite vunerable to spam because its not moderated
automatically (you don't have to be subscribed to post to it)

I think we'll probably go for yahoogroups or something similar (anyone got
any advice/preferences?) Having an daily digest feature would be good.
Having a separate announcement-only list would be popular too. I also thing
we should make sure there is a choice of special interest groups as Britdisc
is a bit vague in its purpose.

Thoughts and suggestions welcome (a Britdisc debate?)

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Godber" <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
To: <james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 28 March 2002 08:41
Subject: RE: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the Seven
Dwarfs - The REAL story!


> Why do we get these kind of messages through? Is it because of an
> advertising clause somewhere? and if so, is the best idea to run a new
> e-group through the remarkably cheap Webleicester package that UKU have
> negotiated for the website? I don't mind the occasional advert coming
> through on the thing, but attachments with viruses are another matter all
> together.
>
> Any thoughts/ideas/wonderful solutions from anyone?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com [mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com]
> Sent: 28 March 2002 08:12
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; BAF_Ultimate@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the Seven
> Dwarfs - The REAL story!
>
>
> All,
>
> My work virus checker picked up a virus within "Joke.exe" in "Snowhite and
> the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" from "HaHaHa@sexyfun.net" which came
> via britdisc....
>
> Balti
> BAF 34
> ----- Forwarded by James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 28/03/02 08:17
> -----
>
>
>                     Antivirus.Postmaster@
>
>                     zurich.com                   To:
> james.hewitson@zurich.com
>                                                  cc:
>
>                     27/03/02 23:04               bcc:
>
>                                                  Subject:     Virus
Alert -
> ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the
>                                                  Seven Dwarfs - The REAL
> story!
>
>
>
>
>
> Anti-virus software has detected a virus during a real-time scan of the
> email traffic.
>
> Date:      3/28/2002 0:4:26
> Subject:  Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> Virus:      WORM_HYBRIS.M
> File:        joke.exe
> From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> To:          james.hewitson@zurich.com;
> Action:   Uncleanable, Quarantined;
>
> Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5
> with scanengine 5.630-1025
> and patternfile lpt$vpn.250
> (Embedded image moved to file: pic23811.pcx)
>
>
___________________________________________________________________________
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well, as most other teams, we have got two lists set =
up for our club: one with tournament announcements, and important =
practice info, and one with general discussions about what colour =
shirts we want, how we should drill, what we are having for dinner, =
etc. That way people can choose to subscribe to all the crap if they =
want to, or just stick with important stuff, and not spend a Wednesday =
morning reading non-stop repetitive arguments about whether someone had =
a valid point about AGM's. (For example) If you add special digests =
into this as well, it could be an easy way to get the info, without the =
extraneous material.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yahoogroups are good, but they have started sending =
adverts on the bottom of their e-mails. The service can get a little =
slow to some people, but generally they are OK.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Slipdisc</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Ben Ravilious [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:ben@ravilious.net">mailto:ben@ravilious.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 28 March 2002 09:34</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: BRITDISC</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: e-groups</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>We do need to set up some new email lists for =
everyone.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think Britdisc is quite vunerable to spam because =
its not moderated</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>automatically (you don't have to be subscribed to =
post to it)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think we'll probably go for yahoogroups or =
something similar (anyone got</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>any advice/preferences?) Having an daily digest =
feature would be good.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Having a separate announcement-only list would be =
popular too. I also thing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>we should make sure there is a choice of special =
interest groups as Britdisc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>is a bit vague in its purpose.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thoughts and suggestions welcome (a Britdisc =
debate?)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ben</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>----- Original Message -----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: &quot;Andrew Godber&quot; =
&lt;Andrew.Godber@arup.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: &lt;james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com&gt;; =
&lt;britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 28 March 2002 08:41</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus =
Notes--&gt;Snowhite and the Seven</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dwarfs - The REAL story!</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Why do we get these kind of messages through? Is =
it because of an</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; advertising clause somewhere? and if so, is the =
best idea to run a new</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; e-group through the remarkably cheap =
Webleicester package that UKU have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; negotiated for the website? I don't mind the =
occasional advert coming</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; through on the thing, but attachments with =
viruses are another matter all</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; together.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Any thoughts/ideas/wonderful solutions from =
anyone?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com">mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zu=
rich.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: 28 March 2002 08:12</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; =
BAF_Ultimate@yahoogroups.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus =
Notes--&gt;Snowhite and the Seven</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Dwarfs - The REAL story!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; All,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; My work virus checker picked up a virus within =
&quot;Joke.exe&quot; in &quot;Snowhite and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!&quot; from =
&quot;HaHaHa@sexyfun.net&quot; which came</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; via britdisc....</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Balti</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; BAF 34</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ----- Forwarded by James =
Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 28/03/02 08:17</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Antivirus.Postmaster@</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
zurich.com&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; james.hewitson@zurich.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 27/03/02 =
23:04&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Virus</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Alert -</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ScanMail for Lotus Notes--&gt;Snowhite and =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT =
SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Seven Dwarfs - The REAL</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; story!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Anti-virus software has detected a virus during =
a real-time scan of the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; email traffic.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/28/2002 =
0:4:26</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject:&nbsp; Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - =
The REAL story!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Virus:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
WORM_HYBRIS.M</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; File:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
joke.exe</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =
To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
james.hewitson@zurich.com;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Action:&nbsp;&nbsp; Uncleanable, =
Quarantined;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; with scanengine 5.630-1025</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and patternfile lpt$vpn.250</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (Embedded image moved to file: =
pic23811.pcx)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
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We do need to set up some new email lists for everyone.

I think Britdisc is quite vunerable to spam because its not moderated
automatically (you don't have to be subscribed to post to it)

I think we'll probably go for yahoogroups or something similar (anyone got
any advice/preferences?) Having an daily digest feature would be good.
Having a separate announcement-only list would be popular too. I also thing
we should make sure there is a choice of special interest groups as Britdisc
is a bit vague in its purpose.

Thoughts and suggestions welcome (a Britdisc debate?)

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Godber" <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
To: <james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 28 March 2002 08:41
Subject: RE: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the Seven
Dwarfs - The REAL story!


> Why do we get these kind of messages through? Is it because of an
> advertising clause somewhere? and if so, is the best idea to run a new
> e-group through the remarkably cheap Webleicester package that UKU have
> negotiated for the website? I don't mind the occasional advert coming
> through on the thing, but attachments with viruses are another matter all
> together.
>
> Any thoughts/ideas/wonderful solutions from anyone?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com [mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com]
> Sent: 28 March 2002 08:12
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; BAF_Ultimate@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the Seven
> Dwarfs - The REAL story!
>
>
> All,
>
> My work virus checker picked up a virus within "Joke.exe" in "Snowhite and
> the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" from "HaHaHa@sexyfun.net" which came
> via britdisc....
>
> Balti
> BAF 34
> ----- Forwarded by James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 28/03/02 08:17
> -----
>
>
>                     Antivirus.Postmaster@
>
>                     zurich.com                   To:
> james.hewitson@zurich.com
>                                                  cc:
>
>                     27/03/02 23:04               bcc:
>
>                                                  Subject:     Virus
Alert -
> ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the
>                                                  Seven Dwarfs - The REAL
> story!
>
>
>
>
>
> Anti-virus software has detected a virus during a real-time scan of the
> email traffic.
>
> Date:      3/28/2002 0:4:26
> Subject:  Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> Virus:      WORM_HYBRIS.M
> File:        joke.exe
> From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> To:          james.hewitson@zurich.com;
> Action:   Uncleanable, Quarantined;
>
> Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5
> with scanengine 5.630-1025
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>
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NOW i'm really interested... who wrote this?
This is good stuff.

Sam




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i wouldnt advocate the use of yahoogroups, for a
couple of reasons. firstly, they can be really slow -
im talking a whole day to receive a message. secondly,
you do get a lot of marketing crap from the lovely
people at yahoo.

i know the flyghtclub list runs via the server for our
website and costs a few quid a month, but with a limit
of 100 or so email addresses, but i imagine you can
find someone to take on a lot more email addresses for
a modest price.

dan
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Just a quick question, perhaps a bit off the subject but thought this would be a
good time to ask .....

Instead of having a mailing list as Britdisc is at the moment changing over to a
newsgroup instead along the same lines of rec.sport.disc. I don't know if there
is a UK equivalent at the moment, I've got no idea how you would set one up.

One advantage of a newsgroup is that messages can be "threaded" according to
their subject i.e. all emails regarding a forthcoming tournament will be grouped
together in order of when messages were received. At the same time another
thread may concern a debate about rostering or Tour dates for example.

Newsgroup readers come free with Netscape and Explorer browsers, members can
pick and choose which subject or "thread" they wish to read or add to.


Cheers, Dinesh


Ben Ravilious wrote:

> Actually I think you will find that if the 'crappy' groups are managed
> properly that you will get less irrelevent messages. For those who don't
> like off-topic stuff this would be much better. I'm not suggesting we have
> hundreds (we may already have all the ones we need in fact: (juniors, women,
> GB)
>
> I think we should pay for the premium no-ads service from which ever
> provider we go for.
>
> Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fraser Macrae" <fmacrae@freeuk.com>
> To: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
> Sent: 28 March 2002 14:01
> Subject: RE: e-groups
>
> > I like the format of britdisc at the moment with everything to do with UK
> > Ultimate in the one place. I don't like the idea of lots of little crappy
> > groups, I'm subscribed to enough already. but if you chose yahoogroups,
> > there is an automatic archive, you can have a daily digest of read the
> > messages on the web, etc. It does have an annoying advert added to the
> > bottom of every email though..
> > my tupence
> > Fraser
> > (Sneeeky's, Fusion)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Ben Ravilious
> > Sent: 28 March 2002 09:34
> > To: BRITDISC
> > Subject: e-groups
> >
> >
> > We do need to set up some new email lists for everyone.
> >
> > I think Britdisc is quite vunerable to spam because its not moderated
> > automatically (you don't have to be subscribed to post to it)
> >
> > I think we'll probably go for yahoogroups or something similar (anyone got
> > any advice/preferences?) Having an daily digest feature would be good.
> > Having a separate announcement-only list would be popular too. I also
> thing
> > we should make sure there is a choice of special interest groups as
> Britdisc
> > is a bit vague in its purpose.
> >
> > Thoughts and suggestions welcome (a Britdisc debate?)
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Godber" <Andrew.Godber@arup.com>
> > To: <james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> > Sent: 28 March 2002 08:41
> > Subject: RE: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the
> Seven
> > Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> >
> >
> > > Why do we get these kind of messages through? Is it because of an
> > > advertising clause somewhere? and if so, is the best idea to run a new
> > > e-group through the remarkably cheap Webleicester package that UKU have
> > > negotiated for the website? I don't mind the occasional advert coming
> > > through on the thing, but attachments with viruses are another matter
> all
> > > together.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts/ideas/wonderful solutions from anyone?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com [mailto:james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com]
> > > Sent: 28 March 2002 08:12
> > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; BAF_Ultimate@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the Seven
> > > Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> > >
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > My work virus checker picked up a virus within "Joke.exe" in "Snowhite
> and
> > > the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!" from "HaHaHa@sexyfun.net" which came
> > > via britdisc....
> > >
> > > Balti
> > > BAF 34
> > > ----- Forwarded by James Hewitson/FIN/Life/UK/Zurich on 28/03/02 08:17
> > > -----
> > >
> > >
> > >                     Antivirus.Postmaster@
> > >
> > >                     zurich.com                   To:
> > > james.hewitson@zurich.com
> > >                                                  cc:
> > >
> > >                     27/03/02 23:04               bcc:
> > >
> > >                                                  Subject:     Virus
> > Alert -
> > > ScanMail for Lotus Notes-->Snowhite and the
> > >                                                  Seven Dwarfs - The REAL
> > > story!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anti-virus software has detected a virus during a real-time scan of the
> > > email traffic.
> > >
> > > Date:      3/28/2002 0:4:26
> > > Subject:  Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story!
> > > Virus:      WORM_HYBRIS.M
> > > File:        joke.exe
> > > From:     owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> > > To:          james.hewitson@zurich.com;
> > > Action:   Uncleanable, Quarantined;
> > >
> > > Scanned by ScanMail for Lotus Notes 2.5
> > > with scanengine 5.630-1025
> > > and patternfile lpt$vpn.250
> > > (Embedded image moved to file: pic23811.pcx)
> > >
> > >
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > The information contained in this message is confidential and may be
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> > > read, copy or otherwise use it and do not disclose it to anyone else.
> > > Please notify the sender of the delivery error and then delete the
> > > message from your system.
> > >
> > > Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author
> > only.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your assistance.
> > >
> > >
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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www.groupcare.dk has taken care of all my group needs so far.  might be 
worth a browse.

>From: Dan Stewart <gleaming_shaft@yahoo.com>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: e-groups
>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:36:53 -0800 (PST)
>
>i wouldnt advocate the use of yahoogroups, for a
>couple of reasons. firstly, they can be really slow -
>im talking a whole day to receive a message. secondly,
>you do get a lot of marketing crap from the lovely
>people at yahoo.
>
>i know the flyghtclub list runs via the server for our
>website and costs a few quid a month, but with a limit
>of 100 or so email addresses, but i imagine you can
>find someone to take on a lot more email addresses for
>a modest price.
>
>dan
>FC/TNT
>
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<rant mode>
Has everyone forgotten how to use their email program to trim off the 
unnecessary ten previous replys before hitting the send button? I notice 
that Ben is a particurlary bad offender :)
</rant mode>

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Why? Emails download in a fraction of a second. As long as the threaded
replies are in a meaningful order whats the problem?

I would subscribe to this view: http://www.emailreplies.com/#10thread

Maybe you should get a better email program!! Hotmail Schmotmail!

;-)

Ben

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> <rant mode>
> Has everyone forgotten how to use their email program to trim off the
> unnecessary ten previous replys before hitting the send button? I notice
> that Ben is a particurlary bad offender :)
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There will be two training sessions 1-4pm on tuesday and wednesday this week. 
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	From all of us who stayed behind to all the Brits who went -
congratulations.

	To Poughkeepsie - nice one and about bloody time too :-)

	But can anyone confirm if there is any truth to the following:

	1) That the cut on Shipley's chin occurred during a freak skipping
accident?
	2) That at no point over the weekend did any Cyrille member see the
inside of his/her hotel room?
	3) That the hot favourites to win the Open division finished 11th
(sorry guys - couldn't resist.... better luck next year :-)

	Well done everyone!

	M

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<DIV>We had a game despite it being Easter, Rimini, etc...and beers to boot- a wicked start. Thanks to all who turned up...I really enjoyed the attitude...feel free to forward this on to others who have Tuesdays to burn in the North/West suburbs.....and Brunel/Uxbridge peeps who can't get enough</DIV>
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<DIV>Next Tuesday (9th) is a definite with an earlier start-time of 6: we wanted to play more but the sun disappeared- so now we own the sun!!</DIV>
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<DIV>I've attached a quick sketch of the park. We shall be playing on the University of Westminster Playing felds rather than in the park itself- good publicity for Jen's potential recruits.&nbsp; The red lines represent footpaths and the black lines represent roads. Walking time from Car Park/ South Kenton Station is about 5-10 mins....2 mins if you jog and warm-up!!</DIV>
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<DIV>See you then. (If anyone needs to be removed from this list let me know)</DIV>
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PTG Precision Technology Group letter  37 Sky Line Drive, Suite 2104
      Lake Mary, FL 32746
      Phone 407.804.1000
      Fax      407.804.1002
      Site: WWW.PTGINDUSTRIES.COM
      Email: ptg@ptgindustries.com



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      Friday, March 29 ,2002

      New Application results and Products.
      Laser Cutting, Marking and Engraving. New equipment.

      The new SBM 1200 4x4 Laser Cutting, Marking and Engraving tool is
released by PTG Group. This is a self contained unit with sealed off laser
from 10W to 1000w CW and 3000W pulsed. Auto CAD, Coral Draw, other Windows
applications. http://www.ptgindustries.com/industrial/sbm1200m.htm

      http://www.ptgindustries.com/general/sbm2.htm

      http://www.ptgindustries.com/general/sbm3.htm

      Systems with sealed 300W/750W CW/Pulsed priced BELOW $100,000.

      The unique feature is that system can be equipped with 2 lasers to
cover the low and high power ranges.

      Laser Disk Cutting Application.

      Precision laser cutting of different materials (ceramics, glass,
metals, organic tissues, plastics, acrylic, etc...) was realized on SBM333.
The key factor for precision is that polarization of the laser beam is kept
tangentially to the projected cutting line
http://www.ptgindustries.com/app/lcut.htm

      Flat Panel Display Application:

      The new laser cutting method was used on F400 for full body separation
without any additional breaking system at a speed 500mm/sec 470 x 470
x2x0,55 mm panels for small cell phone TFT and OLED display panels
http://www.ptgindustries.com/news/news.htm and
http://www.ptgindustries.com/fpd/f400.htm.











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      <P class=3DMsoBodyText><SPAN class=3D150205420-16032002><SPAN=20
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      href=3D"http://www.ptgindustries.com/industrial/sbm1200m.htm">SBM =
1200=20
      </A>4x4 Laser Cutting, Marking and Engraving tool is released by =
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      Group. This is a self contained unit with sealed off laser from =
10W to=20
      1000w CW and 3000W pulsed. Auto CAD, Coral Draw, other Windows=20
      applications. <A=20
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href=3D"http://www.ptgindustries.com/industrial/sbm1200m.htm">http://www.=
ptgindustries.com/industrial/sbm1200m.htm</A></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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href=3D"http://www.ptgindustries.com/general/sbm2.htm">http://www.ptgindu=
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300W/750W=20
      CW/Pulsed priced BELOW $100,000.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoBodyText><SPAN class=3D150205420-16032002><SPAN=20
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that system=20
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and high=20
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      class=3D150205420-16032002><SPAN class=3D220312600-17032002><FONT=20
      color=3D#000080 size=3D2><STRONG>Laser Disk Cutting=20
      Application.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoBodyText><SPAN class=3D150205420-16032002><SPAN=20
      class=3D220312600-17032002><FONT size=3D2>Precision laser cutting =
of different=20
      materials (ceramics, glass, metals, organic tissues, plastics, =
acrylic,=20
      etc...) was realized on <A=20
      href=3D"http://www.ptgindustries.com/zwlct/sbm333.htm">SBM333</A>. =
The key=20
      factor for precision is that polarization of the laser beam is =
kept=20
      tangentially to the projected cutting line <A=20
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href=3D"http://www.ptgindustries.com/app/lcut.htm">http://www.ptgindustri=
es.com/app/lcut.htm</A><STRONG>=20
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      <P class=3DMsoBodyText><SPAN class=3D150205420-16032002><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D220312600-17032002></SPAN>The new laser cutting method was =
used on=20
      </FONT><A href=3D"http://www.ptgindustries.com/fpd/f400.htm"><FONT =

      size=3D2>F400&nbsp;</FONT></A><FONT size=3D2>for full body =
separation without=20
      any additional breaking system at a speed 500mm/sec 470 x 470 =
x2x0,55 mm=20
      panels for small cell phone </FONT><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.ptgindustries.com/news/news.htm"><FONT =
size=3D2>TFT and=20
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class=3D220312600-17032002></SPAN><FONT=20
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to whom it may concern - i.e. those going to dublin this weekend.

there are train strikes scheduled for this friday and next monday which
affect the train route from crewe to hollyhead, a pretty vital part of most
train routes to dublin! if you are due to travel by train on either or both
of these days, I recommend you ring the train people to find out what's
going on.

hope you all get there. if you get in before me, mines a guiness.

rodders (or pete)
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There are still places available at the first ever tournament in Bournemouth 
on the 11th/12th May.

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Ultimate to play.

If you want to come along, let me know.

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From: Samuel Rey <reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk>
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:05:37 +0100 
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I have been asked to request (female) pickups for the Mixed (co-ed) Tour
27-28 April 2002.
Anybody interested, please contact me asap... this could be an ongoing
arrangement.


Sam

914 6254
reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk


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Ben,

Can you e-mail me please?  Do you still want to pick-up for us at Tour 1?  We're
picking the teams now, and your inclusion will affect the decisions.

There's a place for you if you want it, but I'd like to know soon if you're a
definite.

Cheers

Si.
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Subject: UK Ultimate membership paid  by BANK TRANSFER methods
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:13:52 +0100
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Hi 

Here is a list of those who have paid UK Ultimate membership by BANK
TRANSFER methods. Many thanks to you all

NB: Several banks have not included player's name or registration no. &
therefore it is not possible to acknowledge a small number of payments
made. Please get in touch with me ASAP if you made an electronic bank
transfer payment & you are not on the list below. I will require several
further details in order to help trace your payment!

Please also note UKU employs an administrator for approx. one day a
week.
The administrator will deal with individual enquiries as quickly as
time/priorities allow.

A - Z List of electronic payments 13 Feb - 04 April (Time 12:48) 2002

S	33	Alexander, David
F	64	Allen, Matthew (Mal.)
F	269	Atkinson, John (Blagger)
F	200	Bagshaw, Laura
F	785	Baldwin, Alan
S	44	Barnard, David
S	86	Blair, Tim (Gadget)
S	329	Cater, Jon (Fat Jon)
F	594	Catlin, Andy (Candy)
F	9	Church, Simon
S	253	Clymo, Ben
F	969	Coates, Deborah 
F	158	Cotgreave, Andy 
F	373	Cox, Andy (Angie)
F	331	Davey, Wayne
F	311	Don, Alistair (aL )
F	416	Doswell, Ranulf 
F	1079	Erkinheimo, Markus
F	989	Flint, Neil
S	403	Gardner, David (NSC Dave)
F	255	Gillham, Andrew
S	79	Gray, Olly
F	243	Hallett, Peter
F	970	Hammersley, James 
S	912	Helps, Michael
S	934	higgins, simon (rookie)
S	171	HOMEWOOD, MATT 
F	660	Jacobs, Arne
F	875	Jennings, Toby
S	339	John Salter 
F	156	Johnson, Simon
F	220	Jon Butt
F	1019	Jones, Mike (Dr Jones)
F	163	Larkin, Paul (Larry)
F	740	Lawrence, Matthew
F	345	Leenderts Alexander
F	345	Leenderts, Alexander  -2nd payment?
F	???	Legg G B  -Not found as registered?
F	136	LLoyd, Gary 
F	366	MacKay, David 
S	109	Mewse, Carl 
F	317	Mitura, Joanna
F	???	Mr Allen  - second payment?
F	???	Mr Smith  - which Mr Smith please?
F	911	Naisby, Katie
F	38	O'Kane, Barry
F	308	Ost, Andrew
F	95	Owen, Robert Dylan
F	835	Passmore, Andrew 
F	281	Patel, Lars
F	130	Peek, Ben
F	754	Pioli, Sue
F	98	Pritchard, Esther
F	146	Retter, Wayne
F	553	saggers, dean (deZ)
S	69	Sanderson, Robin 
S	39	Sealy, Dave
F	89	SHARMA, ARUN
F	304	Sheppard Mungo 
F	193	Sheridan, Dan 
F	139	Standen, Chris (Towers)
F	61	Steve Henderson 
F	731	Thomson, Roger 
S	86	Tim Blair - second payment/ refunding asap
F	910	Treharne, Darren 
F	998	Turner, Jonathan (Jo)
F	179	Vaughan, Andrew 
O	913	Watt, Simon
F	287	Weeks, Si
S	567	Wilson, Michael (Ferret)
S	464	Wood, Stephen
F	120	Zhang, Yale

That's all for now!

NJ
UK Ultimate admin



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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 17:18:36 +0100
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Hi 

Here is an A-Z list of those who have paid UK Ultimate membership by
CHEQUE since 15 March. Many thanks to you all. Those who paid cheques
prior to this date will have been acknowleged on a previous 'Cheques
received List' to Bridisc (on 23 Feb, 11 & 15 March). 

F	856	Atkins, Rik
F	951	austin, steve
S	202	Banton, Graham
F	981	BARFORD, HUGH 
F	138	Barlow, Simon
S	607	Bierbach, Maxim
F	921	Bowley, Rama
F	297	Brammer, Martin
F	1104	Brandie, Gavin
S	385	Brown, Roseanne
F	1037	Cahill, Maria
S	634	Carlisle, Mike (JB)
S	557	CLOKE, MATTHEW
S	3	Connop Price, David 
F	1024	Coulson, Kenneth
F	1011	Cummings, Michael 
F	552	Dean, McBride
S	425	Dobson, Glen
S	249	Doran, Christopher 
S	307	Doubal, Robert (Rocky)
S	107	Dye, Tanya
F	131	Eaton, Dave
F	97	Findlay, Alastair
F	726	Flores, Aram (Pops)
F	1035	Ford, Isla
F	1003	FRASER, SALLY
F	1073	Fuller, Shirley
S	853	fyffe, adam (fruitman)
S	893	Gall, Steven 
S	50	gardiner, carol
F	279	Goggin, Niall (Gog)
F	909	GOLBY, HARRY
S	1110	Good, Jon (LeBeouf)
S	602	Gough, Marcus 
F	827	Grayson, David
F	1017	Green, David
F	24	Grigson, Edward
S	1046	Hadfield, Robert
F	1043	Ham, Adrian
S	1001	Hart, Phil
S	260	Harwood, Matt
F	1070	Hebert, Chris
F	978	Heenan, Charles
F	1068	Houghton, James 
F	333	Howard, Ashley
F	1022	Humphries, Rebecca
S	644	Humphries, Richard 
S	43	JOHNSTON , ROBIN 
F	521	Kinsey, Jon (Superfly Jon)
S	55	Leach, Jonathan
S	208	Liu, Vincent (Vince)
F	1089	Lloyd, Tim
F	288	Lowe, Kevin
F	330	Lutley, James (Mr Snow)
S	60	Lyons, Emily
S	639	MacDonald, Craig (Rage)
F	1013	Mann, Karl
F	1008	McDonald, James 
S	372	McEwan, Neil
F	996	McLellan, Chris (Chris)
F	258	Mendes da Costa, Thomas
F	729	Milne, Dougie (BA)
F	168	Milner, Adam
F	1071	Mitchell, Stu
F	180	Mooney, Richard (MC)
F	357	Mudge, Damian
F	979	MYNOTT, GRAHAM 
S	128	Nelson, Anna
S	314	Noble, Alex
S	266	Noble, Kevin
F	891	Orr-Ewing, Andrew
F	1067	parker, claire
F	1049	Parkhurst, Justin
S	632	Philips, Darren-Pierre
S	418	Phythian-Adams, James 
F	1082	Plater, Andrew
F	125	Pocklington, Duncan
F	124	Pocklington, Sarah 
S	1053	Polkinghorne, Sara
F	1059	PRINCE, STEVE 
S	400	Reiter, Andreas (Schuie)
S	354	Renwick, Bryce
F	108	Rey, Samuel (Samanir)
F	504	Rougier, Beth
S	438	Shardlow, Felix (Felchers)
F	1009	SHORTRIDGE, RICHARD
F	987	Sinnett, Matthew (Spender)
F	298	Smallwood, Lucy
F	299	Smith, Mark (Dodgy)
S	334	Smith, Sian
S	717	Snell, Claerwen
S	647	Somerville, Christopher 
F	585	Stapleton, Phil
S	81	Stewart, Dan
S	1002	Stickland, David (Dave)
F	995	Thomas, Jess 
S	157	Thompson, Gemma
F	967	Thompson, Jennifer
F	1062	Thornbury, David 
S	1092	vaughan, stephen
F	888	Vitali, Adriano (Vito)
S	99	Weatherill, Jonathan (JJ)
S	204	Webb, Philip
S	85	webb, shaun
F	1054	Whitehead, David
F	803	Whitehurst, Beth
F	984	Willis, Katherine
F	1094	Woolcott, Tim
F	818	Ziants, Darren


NJ
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hello all,

i have recently arrived in london from canada
(calgary) and am anxious to play some ulti. i'm still
homeless but will likely end up living in the west
central part of the city and working in wimbledon. i
have played ultimate for 5 years, the last few at a
competitive level. if anyone is in need of a fit,
competitive player please let me know.

at this time it is easiest to reach me via email.

cheers,

jason

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Either Friday night or Saturday morning, from St Albans area [good train links mean I can get myself to N London if that's where the offer comes from!]

Compensation in the form of beer/petrol money, of course.

Cheers,
Rich,
Jedi, LLL
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Can I just add well done to Bliss and OW! for getting spirit in the women's and open divisions.  Good job guys, a UK winner in each division!

And of course Mohawks (40th) beat Hammerage (42nd).  Which was nice ;)

Roland
[Mohawks]



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Cahill,Maria" <Maria.Cahill@uk.gases.boc.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:56:20 +0100 

	From all of us who stayed behind to all the Brits who went -
congratulations.

	To Poughkeepsie - nice one and about bloody time too :-)

	But can anyone confirm if there is any truth to the following:

	1) That the cut on Shipley's chin occurred during a freak skipping
accident?
	2) That at no point over the weekend did any Cyrille member see the
inside of his/her hotel room?
	3) That the hot favourites to win the Open division finished 11th
(sorry guys - couldn't resist.... better luck next year :-)

	Well done everyone!

	M

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by now the venue should have been decided, yet I haven't seen it posted =
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Here are some replies that I've received... if you're interested:

Thu, 28 Mar 2002, 12:56:12 
Alistair Bradley wrote:
>Hi,
>
>JB7 were infact 'Jammie Bodgers' and were in 3 of last years tours.  This
>may confuse you futher as i don't think the name was ever spelt correctly in
>the listings! (and this is why we have simplified it to JB7) i think
>sometimes we were down as jamy dodgers, or jammy bodgers, or just JB.
>
>We are still an all student team, consisting of an even proportion of
>players from UWE, Hull and Bath uni's.  and yes, the geographic loactions do
>not make complete sence, but thats just the way it is!
>
>Should you have any futher questions about the highs and lows of JB7 then
>please don't hesitate to contact me.
>Looking fwd to tour 1!
>Regards
>
>Al.

Thu, 28 Mar 2002, 16:21:48 
Alia Ayub <mailto:chicklet8@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hi Wayne!
>
>      Alia here from St Andrews.  The Shooting Project is merely a clever 
>combination between St Andrews' Flatball Project and Dundee's Shooting 
>Stars.  We're a student team with players from St Andrews, Dundee and a few 
>from Aberdeen that just want to play hard outdoors while still having fun.
>
>take care,
>Alia

Thu, 28 Mar 2002, 18:37:21 
Peter James Coy <mailto:peter_james_coy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Wayne
>
>Loco's intention is to pick up where DSM left-off. The squad is not 
>disimilar to the DSM squad, but two years wiser. Notables include Si weeks, 
>Dave Barnard, Chriss Berry, but the main difference is the strength and 
>depth of the squad.
>
>Winter training saw victory over a full strength Sharks, on home turf, and 
>beating one half of Clapham in the WL.
>
>As for predictions. We will certainly have a go at Clapham (clearly 
>pre-season favourites), we have pasted form! Chevy will be strong, but how 
>strong?
>More realistically we epect to be scraping it out with Sharks & 
>Leedsx3(?(strength unknown)), getting the better of the likes of RED, S&G 
>etc.
>
>All trash talk aside, Druids v. Loco, (am i right in thinking we may be in 
>the same pool for TOUR 1?), is going to be an absorbing affair. You have the 
>advantage at present, but we WANT to take your scalp. Looking forward to a 
>good physical encounter.
>
>1) Clapham 1
>2) Chevy
>3) Druids
>4) Clapham 2
>5) UnPocoLoco
>6) Sharks
>7) LEEDSx3
>8) S&G
>9)...
>
>
>NailZ (UnPocoLoco)
>
>PS The above is my own personal opinion and does not represent the views of 
>UnPocoLoco.


Wayne
Fluid Druids

PS: Sam - I hope this keeps you entertained!

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Here's the original email posted to BritDisc by the TDs - it should
contain all you need to know?

for a map, you could check out:
http://www.westglos.org.uk/main/clifton_college_map_page.htm


Wayne


Mon, 25 Feb 2002, by Mathew Edwards <mailto:matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk>;
 Subject: Bristol Tour 1 invite
>
>TOUR ONE BRISTOL
>
>13th & 14th April 2002 
>
>    Dear All 
>
>    You are invited to Bristol Tour One, which will be held at Clifton 
>    College Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the 
>    13th and 14th of April. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 26
>    th of March. 
>
>    ENTRY FEE - £145 per team 
>
>    A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of £25 is available for student 
>    teams i.e. £120.
>
>    A separate Women’s Tour will run alongside the Open Tour and any 
>    women’s teams wishing to enter will be charged £80. 
>
>    CAMPING/B&B – On site camping available (free of charge) with 24hr 
>    toilet facilities open to all. Changing rooms with hot showers will 
>    be readily accessible. A list of local B&B / Guest Houses available 
>    on request.
>
>    The camp site will be accessible from Friday evening, and the 
>    sports ground are keeping their bar open until around 2300hrs for 
>    anyone wishing to have a few beers before bed.
>
>    GRUB/PARTY - A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff is 
>    available all day Saturday and Sunday as well as Saturday evening, 
>    followed by a party and a bar with a late licence, hopefully of 1am 
>    (currently applied for) 
>
>    DIRECTIONS FOR THE SPORTS GROUND - From North, South, East or West: 
>    M5 – exit at Jct 19. Follow A369 towards Bristol for approximately 
>    4 miles on a windy road through small villages until you see a 
>    narrow turning on the right hand side signed posted for Clifton 
>    Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep up on you – if 
>    you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! – this does 
>    not include the pedestrian crossing lights at the George Inn at 
>    Abbots Leigh Village). 
>
>    CAMPSITE - Instead of turning into the sports ground you continue 
>    up to the traffic lights and turn right. 350 yards on the right 
>    hand side you will see a gate. This is the entrance to the camping 
>    area. Please pitch your tents in the bottom right hand side of the 
>    field.
>
>    If you need any more information please contact me.
>
>    Matt & Adam
>
>      
>
>    Mathew Edwards
>    4 Wick Crescent
>    Brislington
>    Bristol BS4 4HL
>    0781 138 2084

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Sorry to use such an open channel, but can tanya from
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on EuroDisc:

Fri, 5 Apr 2002, by Thomas Griesbaum;
 Subject: EFDF European Ultimate Championships 2003
>This information was sent to the representatives of the European disc 
>sports associations earlier today:
>
>The EFDF is currently evaluating two bids for the 2003 EFDF European 
>Ultimate Championships. The last EUC was in 1997 in Street, GB, and 
>after such a long break we are looking forward to having this event 
>happen again. The national Ultimate teams of Europe will play in five 
>divisions:
>
>Open
>Women
>Mixed
>Masters
>Juniors
>
>The first bid which was submitted to the EFDF is from the French 
>association FFDF. The FFDF proposes to host the event in 
>Fontenay-le-Comte, the site of the 1995 EUC, on August 23 to 30, 
>2003. The Tournament Organising Group intends to use the same 
>facilities as in 1995.
>
>The second bid was received from Mark Kendall, tournament director of 
>the WFDF WUGC 2000 in Heilbronn, Germany. Mark proposes to host the 
>event on August 3 to 8, 2003. He also plans to use the same fields 
>and hotels as in 2000, but with a new alternative for a low budget 
>accommodation in the classrooms of a nearby school.
>
>
>Regards,
>Thomas Griesbaum
>European Flying Disc Federation
>

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Hello,

I have recently arrived in London from Canada and am
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not picky, but I will be working in Wimbledon (as an
engineer), so tube/train access is important. I'm also
a non-smoker.

I realize this is not ultimate related but I am in a
bit of a bind.

Thanks,

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From: "Simon Barry" <sibarry@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Open Tour Regulations?
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Hi, can anyone tell me (and about 50 other people that I spoke to this week) 
where to find a copy of the Open Tour regulations - ie the stuff about 
rostering, guests, etc etc.

There was a Freeserve address but this doesn't seem to work.

Thanks v much

Si Barry

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>From Wayne's mail the other day someone mentioned that Druids were in the same
pool as Locco, how do they know?  Have I missed the seedings and pools on
Britdisc?

If I have, can someone enlighten me please?

Si
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<P>Dear Birtdisc'ers and probably more specifically people going to Hawaii and staying on a bit afterwards, please see details below of a tournament due to be held mid september in Singapore. Hope some of you can make it. Please either contact me of Bart <A href="mailto:bedes@adb.org">bedes@adb.org</A><BR>for further details.</P>
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<P>Further to this mail who is going to be deciding the seeding at Tour I? Can we have them posted on Britdisc prior to the weekend.</P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From Wayne's mail the other day someone mentioned that Druids were in the same 
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Could anyone who might be able to offer a lift from Luton airport to 
the tournament please contact KC at mark.taylor@abdn.ac.uk. 
Also, we would like to know if there are any teams lacking players as 
we don't have a definite team yet.

cheers,
Suze
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Hello people,

Despite having resigned as DoC I seem to be doing this again (careless of me).

Seeding: will be calculated from 1. finishing positions of the top 16 in nationals last year. 2. Tour positions from last year below that. 3. Teams who are essentially the same but have changed names keep last years positions. 4. New teams are subject to my best guess based on other tournament results, and the fact that I have all the uku rosters so I know something about all teams, as well as the information sent to Adam.

Schedule: The schedule is as per usual an open event for T1 (ie no peer pools). With 44 teams in the event (plus 4 for a womens event) this means that some teams will be in pools of 6, and others in pools of five. These pool games are going to be very short (approx 45 mins with no cap - details still being finalised). This allows time for longer play-off games on Saturday afternoon, and a normal tour schedule for Sunday

Tour Rules: will be made available on the UKU website soon - hopefully later today, depending on mine and Ben's workload.

Relegation: It is unlikely that Kev is unable to accommodate 48 teams at T2 (it's also unlikely that he will have to), but not having spoken to him I can't confirm anything. Either way the tour rules will detail very carefully what the procedure for selecting teams who make it to T2, and T3 will be.

Chris Hughes
(Resigned from DoC so I did have to do this stuff)

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Half-page article in the Weekend 'Active' section of Saturday's Telegraph.
Too big for my scanner so I've done it in two scans:-

http://www.ukultimate.com/press/tg1.jpg
http://www.ukultimate.com/press/tg2.jpg

Big thanks to Sam Rey, Paul Hurt and Pete Harvey for making this happen

Ben

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Carrying on from a debate that was raging a few weeks ago about the future of
the Tour etc., with the possibilities of having an upper and lower tier etc.  At
the time I didn't really have an opinion, I thought it was all going ok.

But now I read that there are 48 teams entered in Tour 1 and that it is likely
that there will have to be relegation of some of the bottom teams because Tour 2
and Tour 3 can't accommodate this number of teams, or that more than 48 teams
wanted to enter so the others are given a chance in the other Tours.  I have to
ask what happens to the teams who are relegated from Tour 1?  When and where do
they get to play their Ulitimate over the summer?

I am sure that I am not alone in noticing the decline in the number of 'fun' or
non-official tournaments being hosted over the summer, what with the Tour and
the Mixed Tour running every 2nd weekend.  People don't seem to want to play 3
weekends in a row, so the weekeds between official tournaments are not used for
non-official events.  So, if a team gets relegated from Tour 1 and they don't
have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour (and we know there are a distinct
lack of girls, seeing as everyone fights to pick-up more girls the days before
the tournaments!), they won't get to play again until Tour 4 in late July!  This
just seems crazy to me.

If the Tour is so popular, why can't 2 tournaments be held on the same weekends
over the summer, having a top tier (top 32 or so teams?) and a bottom tier (the
rest).  There could be promotion/relegation between the tournaments, but at
least if you get relegated you just go to the other tournament the next month,
and are not just excluded.  This will provide more tournaments for teams to go
to in the year, encourage newer teams and players to come to the Tour, provide
some genuine incentive for lower teams to do well and improve as well as giving
all teams a truer picture of where they stand in the national rankings
(especially if they're not in the top 16).

I obviously raise this from a partly selfish point of view as Slipdisc are one
of those teams who don't have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour, so we rely
on the open Tour events as pretty much the only tournaments we can get to April
to July.  This year we will have a 1st and 2nd team, the 1st team will be ok but
the 2nd team could well be fighting down in these relegation places.  If they do
get relegated we'll have around 30 players and only able to enter 1 team, so
half our sqaud will have to stay at home.

Something needs to be done if there are that many teams out there wanting to
play in competitive events.  I don't believe it is too late to do this this
summer, if the venues can be found, after Tour 1 cut off at the top 24 or 32
teams and run another tournament for the lower teams.  Or would this mean less
profit for TDs?  The "I'm alright, Jack" attitude of the top teams has got to
change for the benefit of the rest of us or nothing will have changed at all in
the way that the game is run in this Country.

Si
(Slipdisc)




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more tournies please!

I dunno, isn't there still a whole bunch a non tour tournies for all?

for me tour is cool, but of equal importance are the fun tournaments like glasto last year and rumour (rumour is totally wicked thanks to milky et al).

when ultimate is bigger I'm sure there'll be loads of tournaments every week.  I think that golf tournaments often run on ultimate weekends?

good job.

see you at T1

laters

tom  S&G and Mohawks

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I don't want to turn this into a personal battle, it just seems that the
attitude is very much that the top teams can play in whatever tournaments they
like but if there's not enough space then the lower teams have to miss out.  I
wonder what would have happened if there were only 32 places at Tour 1 and
Clapham forgot to get their cheque in in time, for whatever reason?

There must've been other venues considered for the Tour events, some even put
forward from lower teams, so the potential was there to have this second
division.  I just don't think enough is done for those of us who don't play at
the same level you do.

Also, 2 smaller divisions would give a chance for smaller venues to be
considered.  Those which are more likely to be run by the lower teams.





"Evans, Alex" <Alex.Evans@roomsolutions.net> on 08/04/2002 15:28:25

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The "I'm alright Jack, attitude"? Are you suggesting that one of the players
from the top teams organises second division tournaments for the same
weekend that they're playing in the tour? Could happen I suppose, but it
would be a far bigger sacrifice than for someone likely to be playing in the
lower division.

I agree that a second division would be a great idea, but as always it's
about finding the venues & volunteers to host events. How on Earth you
figured that 'top teams' are to blame for this is beyond me.

Alex
Clapham U

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Statham [mailto:Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk]
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Subject: The Tour/Relegation


Carrying on from a debate that was raging a few weeks ago about the future
of
the Tour etc., with the possibilities of having an upper and lower tier etc.
At
the time I didn't really have an opinion, I thought it was all going ok.

But now I read that there are 48 teams entered in Tour 1 and that it is
likely
that there will have to be relegation of some of the bottom teams because
Tour 2
and Tour 3 can't accommodate this number of teams, or that more than 48
teams
wanted to enter so the others are given a chance in the other Tours.  I have
to
ask what happens to the teams who are relegated from Tour 1?  When and where
do
they get to play their Ulitimate over the summer?

I am sure that I am not alone in noticing the decline in the number of 'fun'
or
non-official tournaments being hosted over the summer, what with the Tour
and
the Mixed Tour running every 2nd weekend.  People don't seem to want to play
3
weekends in a row, so the weekeds between official tournaments are not used
for
non-official events.  So, if a team gets relegated from Tour 1 and they
don't
have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour (and we know there are a
distinct
lack of girls, seeing as everyone fights to pick-up more girls the days
before
the tournaments!), they won't get to play again until Tour 4 in late July!
This
just seems crazy to me.

If the Tour is so popular, why can't 2 tournaments be held on the same
weekends
over the summer, having a top tier (top 32 or so teams?) and a bottom tier
(the
rest).  There could be promotion/relegation between the tournaments, but at
least if you get relegated you just go to the other tournament the next
month,
and are not just excluded.  This will provide more tournaments for teams to
go
to in the year, encourage newer teams and players to come to the Tour,
provide
some genuine incentive for lower teams to do well and improve as well as
giving
all teams a truer picture of where they stand in the national rankings
(especially if they're not in the top 16).

I obviously raise this from a partly selfish point of view as Slipdisc are
one
of those teams who don't have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour, so we
rely
on the open Tour events as pretty much the only tournaments we can get to
April
to July.  This year we will have a 1st and 2nd team, the 1st team will be ok
but
the 2nd team could well be fighting down in these relegation places.  If
they do
get relegated we'll have around 30 players and only able to enter 1 team, so
half our sqaud will have to stay at home.

Something needs to be done if there are that many teams out there wanting to
play in competitive events.  I don't believe it is too late to do this this
summer, if the venues can be found, after Tour 1 cut off at the top 24 or 32
teams and run another tournament for the lower teams.  Or would this mean
less
profit for TDs?  The "I'm alright, Jack" attitude of the top teams has got
to
change for the benefit of the rest of us or nothing will have changed at all
in
the way that the game is run in this Country.

Si
(Slipdisc)




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Simon,

We are fully aware of the problem you have brought up and will be discussing
it at a board meeting this weekend and at further meetings of the
competitions committee.

Your indignation is justified but there are some very simple reasons why
things have turned out like this and I don't think blaming the top teams for
this is particularly fair - they have done nothing wrong.

An open debate on ways to allow the national competitions to grow flexibly
would be most welcome this week.

I believe the current UK Ultimate officers are more than capable of devising
a system which fits everyones needs - however previous attempts to do this
were scotched by various groups on the argument that divisionalisation of
our national competitions was somehow 'unfair' on the lower teams.

I would dispute your claim that the fun tournaments are in decline. I quick
glance down the diary at www.ukultimate.com revealed eight unnofficial
events listed already this year and I'm sure there will be more. I would
think 'fun' teams fixation with entering inappropriate Tour events is more
of a problem though I accept there is a need to organise the lower end of
the tour better.

Watch this space....

Ben
UK Ultimate



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> Carrying on from a debate that was raging a few weeks ago about the future
of
> the Tour etc., with the possibilities of having an upper and lower tier
etc.  At
> the time I didn't really have an opinion, I thought it was all going ok.
>
> But now I read that there are 48 teams entered in Tour 1 and that it is
likely
> that there will have to be relegation of some of the bottom teams because
Tour 2
> and Tour 3 can't accommodate this number of teams, or that more than 48
teams
> wanted to enter so the others are given a chance in the other Tours.  I
have to
> ask what happens to the teams who are relegated from Tour 1?  When and
where do
> they get to play their Ulitimate over the summer?
>
> I am sure that I am not alone in noticing the decline in the number of
'fun' or
> non-official tournaments being hosted over the summer, what with the Tour
and
> the Mixed Tour running every 2nd weekend.  People don't seem to want to
play 3
> weekends in a row, so the weekeds between official tournaments are not
used for
> non-official events.  So, if a team gets relegated from Tour 1 and they
don't
> have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour (and we know there are a
distinct
> lack of girls, seeing as everyone fights to pick-up more girls the days
before
> the tournaments!), they won't get to play again until Tour 4 in late July!
This
> just seems crazy to me.
>
> If the Tour is so popular, why can't 2 tournaments be held on the same
weekends
> over the summer, having a top tier (top 32 or so teams?) and a bottom tier
(the
> rest).  There could be promotion/relegation between the tournaments, but
at
> least if you get relegated you just go to the other tournament the next
month,
> and are not just excluded.  This will provide more tournaments for teams
to go
> to in the year, encourage newer teams and players to come to the Tour,
provide
> some genuine incentive for lower teams to do well and improve as well as
giving
> all teams a truer picture of where they stand in the national rankings
> (especially if they're not in the top 16).
>
> I obviously raise this from a partly selfish point of view as Slipdisc are
one
> of those teams who don't have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour, so
we rely
> on the open Tour events as pretty much the only tournaments we can get to
April
> to July.  This year we will have a 1st and 2nd team, the 1st team will be
ok but
> the 2nd team could well be fighting down in these relegation places.  If
they do
> get relegated we'll have around 30 players and only able to enter 1 team,
so
> half our sqaud will have to stay at home.
>
> Something needs to be done if there are that many teams out there wanting
to
> play in competitive events.  I don't believe it is too late to do this
this
> summer, if the venues can be found, after Tour 1 cut off at the top 24 or
32
> teams and run another tournament for the lower teams.  Or would this mean
less
> profit for TDs?  The "I'm alright, Jack" attitude of the top teams has got
to
> change for the benefit of the rest of us or nothing will have changed at
all in
> the way that the game is run in this Country.
>
> Si
> (Slipdisc)
>
>
>
>
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Now seems like an appropriate time:

I've found a possible venue for a tournament over the summer and I'm 
thinking of hosting something in the shadow of the worlds for something for 
"the rest of us" to do.

Obviously this does count on there being enough interest from people who are 
left behind to organise themselves... so could anyone who thinks they've got 
a good chance of getting a team together for the weekend of the 3rd/4th 
August please let me know so I can get an idea of numbers?

I'm thinking along the lines of what the Sharks run so successfully in their 
RumouR tournament in Chipping Norton; team fees lower than the Tour, 
(hopefully) food provided on site, drinking games, hack competitions and 
anything else that comes to mind which I have the patience to organise!

Looking forward to a flooded email account,

Angie
(SkuMy, Skunks, whoever'll have me)


>From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: Re: The Tour/Relegation
>Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:58:39 +0100
>
>Simon,
>
>We are fully aware of the problem you have brought up and will be 
>discussing
>it at a board meeting this weekend and at further meetings of the
>competitions committee.
>
>Your indignation is justified but there are some very simple reasons why
>things have turned out like this and I don't think blaming the top teams 
>for
>this is particularly fair - they have done nothing wrong.
>
>An open debate on ways to allow the national competitions to grow flexibly
>would be most welcome this week.
>
>I believe the current UK Ultimate officers are more than capable of 
>devising
>a system which fits everyones needs - however previous attempts to do this
>were scotched by various groups on the argument that divisionalisation of
>our national competitions was somehow 'unfair' on the lower teams.
>
>I would dispute your claim that the fun tournaments are in decline. I quick
>glance down the diary at www.ukultimate.com revealed eight unnofficial
>events listed already this year and I'm sure there will be more. I would
>think 'fun' teams fixation with entering inappropriate Tour events is more
>of a problem though I accept there is a need to organise the lower end of
>the tour better.
>
>Watch this space....
>
>Ben
>UK Ultimate
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Simon Statham" <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk>
>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Sent: 08 April 2002 14:54
>Subject: The Tour/Relegation
>
>
> > Carrying on from a debate that was raging a few weeks ago about the 
>future
>of
> > the Tour etc., with the possibilities of having an upper and lower tier
>etc.  At
> > the time I didn't really have an opinion, I thought it was all going ok.
> >
> > But now I read that there are 48 teams entered in Tour 1 and that it is
>likely
> > that there will have to be relegation of some of the bottom teams 
>because
>Tour 2
> > and Tour 3 can't accommodate this number of teams, or that more than 48
>teams
> > wanted to enter so the others are given a chance in the other Tours.  I
>have to
> > ask what happens to the teams who are relegated from Tour 1?  When and
>where do
> > they get to play their Ulitimate over the summer?
> >
> > I am sure that I am not alone in noticing the decline in the number of
>'fun' or
> > non-official tournaments being hosted over the summer, what with the 
>Tour
>and
> > the Mixed Tour running every 2nd weekend.  People don't seem to want to
>play 3
> > weekends in a row, so the weekeds between official tournaments are not
>used for
> > non-official events.  So, if a team gets relegated from Tour 1 and they
>don't
> > have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour (and we know there are a
>distinct
> > lack of girls, seeing as everyone fights to pick-up more girls the days
>before
> > the tournaments!), they won't get to play again until Tour 4 in late 
>July!
>This
> > just seems crazy to me.
> >
> > If the Tour is so popular, why can't 2 tournaments be held on the same
>weekends
> > over the summer, having a top tier (top 32 or so teams?) and a bottom 
>tier
>(the
> > rest).  There could be promotion/relegation between the tournaments, but
>at
> > least if you get relegated you just go to the other tournament the next
>month,
> > and are not just excluded.  This will provide more tournaments for teams
>to go
> > to in the year, encourage newer teams and players to come to the Tour,
>provide
> > some genuine incentive for lower teams to do well and improve as well as
>giving
> > all teams a truer picture of where they stand in the national rankings
> > (especially if they're not in the top 16).
> >
> > I obviously raise this from a partly selfish point of view as Slipdisc 
>are
>one
> > of those teams who don't have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour, so
>we rely
> > on the open Tour events as pretty much the only tournaments we can get 
>to
>April
> > to July.  This year we will have a 1st and 2nd team, the 1st team will 
>be
>ok but
> > the 2nd team could well be fighting down in these relegation places.  If
>they do
> > get relegated we'll have around 30 players and only able to enter 1 
>team,
>so
> > half our sqaud will have to stay at home.
> >
> > Something needs to be done if there are that many teams out there 
>wanting
>to
> > play in competitive events.  I don't believe it is too late to do this
>this
> > summer, if the venues can be found, after Tour 1 cut off at the top 24 
>or
>32
> > teams and run another tournament for the lower teams.  Or would this 
>mean
>less
> > profit for TDs?  The "I'm alright, Jack" attitude of the top teams has 
>got
>to
> > change for the benefit of the rest of us or nothing will have changed at
>all in
> > the way that the game is run in this Country.
> >
> > Si
> > (Slipdisc)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Ben,
On a slightly different note...
this is the first I've heard of a UKU meeting at tour 1. Is this a closed
meeting? Are you questions or suggestions for topics of discussion or what?
And before I get flamed, I'm just interested in our new Association and
apologise if I missed any general mailing about this.

Fraser
(Fusion, Sneeeky's, etc.)

> We are fully aware of the problem you have brought up and will be
> discussing
> it at a board meeting this weekend and at further meetings of the
> competitions committee.

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From: "Andy Cox" <andycox23@hotmail.com>
To: colin@webswappers.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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Fair point! It'll be on the North edge of Reading.


>From: "Colin Smith" <colin@webswappers.com>
>Reply-To: "Colin Smith" <colin@webswappers.com>
>To: "Andy Cox" <andycox23@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: The Tour/Relegation
>Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:24:54 +0100
>
>Sounds good, but where is it?
>
>Cheers
>Colin
>
>ZOO
>Hammerage
>SPU, etc.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andy Cox" <andycox23@hotmail.com>
>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 3:25 PM
>Subject: Re: The Tour/Relegation
>
>
> > Now seems like an appropriate time:
> >
> > I've found a possible venue for a tournament over the summer and I'm
> > thinking of hosting something in the shadow of the worlds for something
>for
> > "the rest of us" to do.
> >
> > Obviously this does count on there being enough interest from people who
>are
> > left behind to organise themselves... so could anyone who thinks they've
>got
> > a good chance of getting a team together for the weekend of the 3rd/4th
> > August please let me know so I can get an idea of numbers?
> >
> > I'm thinking along the lines of what the Sharks run so successfully in
>their
> > RumouR tournament in Chipping Norton; team fees lower than the Tour,
> > (hopefully) food provided on site, drinking games, hack competitions and
> > anything else that comes to mind which I have the patience to organise!
> >
> > Looking forward to a flooded email account,
> >
> > Angie
> > (SkuMy, Skunks, whoever'll have me)
> >
> >
> > >From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
> > >To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> > >Subject: Re: The Tour/Relegation
> > >Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:58:39 +0100
> > >
> > >Simon,
> > >
> > >We are fully aware of the problem you have brought up and will be
> > >discussing
> > >it at a board meeting this weekend and at further meetings of the
> > >competitions committee.
> > >
> > >Your indignation is justified but there are some very simple reasons 
>why
> > >things have turned out like this and I don't think blaming the top 
>teams
> > >for
> > >this is particularly fair - they have done nothing wrong.
> > >
> > >An open debate on ways to allow the national competitions to grow
>flexibly
> > >would be most welcome this week.
> > >
> > >I believe the current UK Ultimate officers are more than capable of
> > >devising
> > >a system which fits everyones needs - however previous attempts to do
>this
> > >were scotched by various groups on the argument that divisionalisation 
>of
> > >our national competitions was somehow 'unfair' on the lower teams.
> > >
> > >I would dispute your claim that the fun tournaments are in decline. I
>quick
> > >glance down the diary at www.ukultimate.com revealed eight unnofficial
> > >events listed already this year and I'm sure there will be more. I 
>would
> > >think 'fun' teams fixation with entering inappropriate Tour events is
>more
> > >of a problem though I accept there is a need to organise the lower end 
>of
> > >the tour better.
> > >
> > >Watch this space....
> > >
> > >Ben
> > >UK Ultimate
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Simon Statham" <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk>
> > >To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
> > >Sent: 08 April 2002 14:54
> > >Subject: The Tour/Relegation
> > >
> > >
> > > > Carrying on from a debate that was raging a few weeks ago about the
> > >future
> > >of
> > > > the Tour etc., with the possibilities of having an upper and lower
>tier
> > >etc.  At
> > > > the time I didn't really have an opinion, I thought it was all going
>ok.
> > > >
> > > > But now I read that there are 48 teams entered in Tour 1 and that it
>is
> > >likely
> > > > that there will have to be relegation of some of the bottom teams
> > >because
> > >Tour 2
> > > > and Tour 3 can't accommodate this number of teams, or that more than
>48
> > >teams
> > > > wanted to enter so the others are given a chance in the other Tours.
>I
> > >have to
> > > > ask what happens to the teams who are relegated from Tour 1?  When 
>and
> > >where do
> > > > they get to play their Ulitimate over the summer?
> > > >
> > > > I am sure that I am not alone in noticing the decline in the number 
>of
> > >'fun' or
> > > > non-official tournaments being hosted over the summer, what with the
> > >Tour
> > >and
> > > > the Mixed Tour running every 2nd weekend.  People don't seem to want
>to
> > >play 3
> > > > weekends in a row, so the weekeds between official tournaments are 
>not
> > >used for
> > > > non-official events.  So, if a team gets relegated from Tour 1 and
>they
> > >don't
> > > > have enough girls to play in the Mixed Tour (and we know there are a
> > >distinct
> > > > lack of girls, seeing as everyone fights to pick-up more girls the
>days
> > >before
> > > > the tournaments!), they won't get to play again until Tour 4 in late
> > >July!
> > >This
> > > > just seems crazy to me.
> > > >
> > > > If the Tour is so popular, why can't 2 tournaments be held on the 
>same
> > >weekends
> > > > over the summer, having a top tier (top 32 or so teams?) and a 
>bottom
> > >tier
> > >(the
> > > > rest).  There could be promotion/relegation between the tournaments,
>but
> > >at
> > > > least if you get relegated you just go to the other tournament the
>next
> > >month,
> > > > and are not just excluded.  This will provide more tournaments for
>teams
> > >to go
> > > > to in the year, encourage newer teams and players to come to the 
>Tour,
> > >provide
> > > > some genuine incentive for lower teams to do well and improve as 
>well
>as
> > >giving
> > > > all teams a truer picture of where they stand in the national 
>rankings
> > > > (especially if they're not in the top 16).
> > > >
> > > > I obviously raise this from a partly selfish point of view as 
>Slipdisc
> > >are
> > >one
> > > > of those teams who don't have enough girls to play in the Mixed 
>Tour,
>so
> > >we rely
> > > > on the open Tour events as pretty much the only tournaments we can 
>get
> > >to
> > >April
> > > > to July.  This year we will have a 1st and 2nd team, the 1st team 
>will
> > >be
> > >ok but
> > > > the 2nd team could well be fighting down in these relegation places.
>If
> > >they do
> > > > get relegated we'll have around 30 players and only able to enter 1
> > >team,
> > >so
> > > > half our sqaud will have to stay at home.
> > > >
> > > > Something needs to be done if there are that many teams out there
> > >wanting
> > >to
> > > > play in competitive events.  I don't believe it is too late to do 
>this
> > >this
> > > > summer, if the venues can be found, after Tour 1 cut off at the top 
>24
> > >or
> > >32
> > > > teams and run another tournament for the lower teams.  Or would this
> > >mean
> > >less
> > > > profit for TDs?  The "I'm alright, Jack" attitude of the top teams 
>has
> > >got
> > >to
> > > > change for the benefit of the rest of us or nothing will have 
>changed
>at
> > >all in
> > > > the way that the game is run in this Country.
> > > >
> > > > Si
> > > > (Slipdisc)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
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Its closed - this one will not be a public forum.

We may have a few non-directors there on an invitational basis where
appropriate.

My previous email was simply a request for people to discuss ideas for the
expansion of national competitions. Any bright ideas which come from
Britdisc debate will no doubt be considered at the meeting this weekend.

Ben

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> Ben,
> On a slightly different note...
> this is the first I've heard of a UKU meeting at tour 1. Is this a closed
> meeting? Are you questions or suggestions for topics of discussion or
what?
> And before I get flamed, I'm just interested in our new Association and
> apologise if I missed any general mailing about this.
>
> Fraser
> (Fusion, Sneeeky's, etc.)
>
> > We are fully aware of the problem you have brought up and will be
> > discussing
> > it at a board meeting this weekend and at further meetings of the
> > competitions committee.
>
>

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Hi Si,

How're tricks?

We've got both the Student Outdoor Nationals and the Mixed Tour 1 in
Nottingham on successive weekends. Is it ok for us to use the UKU cones,
scoreboards and water bottles? Would it be easier for you (or whoever looks
after the stuff) if we took it back to Notts after T1? If so that would save
someone carting it up to Nottingham in a few weeks. It depends whether the
stuff is going to be needed before SNOUT.

Could you let me know before T1 so we can arrange some car space for the
homeward journey?

Cheers dude.

Ben

Flyght Club
SuperFly


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TOUR TWO :  EXETER
18th & 19th May 2002
Dear All

You are invited to Tour Two in Exeter being held at the University's Duckes
Meadow Pitches on the weekend of the 18th and 19th of May. The deadline for
all entrants is Friday 3rd of May.

ENTRY FEE - £80 per team. In an effort to re-address the rising tournament
entry fees, we have kept the entry fee as low as possible for all teams. A
separate Women's Tour will run alongside the Open Tour if there are
sufficient numbers entering. We have space for 40 teams in total.

CAMPING/B&B - As usual at Exeter tournaments, free camping is available
courtesy of Double Locks Inn with 24hr toilet facilities open to all.
Changing rooms with hot showers are available back at the pitches which are
less than 10 minutes walk away (or a 10 minute drive?). A list of local B&B
/ Guest Houses are available on request. As usual, you are reminded that
Double Locks make their profit from selling beer and food, so please don't
get caught consuming your own on their land. There is space for about 200
camping if we are considerate about pitching tents, and we have been known
to spill over on to South West water land next door (not strictly legal, so
if you do this, please take your tent down quickly in the morning). Camping
is available anytime but please don't leave anything of any value in your
tents during the day. We haven't known any thefts from tents before, but
there have been a number of break-ins to cars so please don't offer any
obvious targets.

GRUB - We should have Exeter Woodcraft providing hot and cold food through
the tournament along with the burger van that was there for the Hat
tournament last year. Double Locks sell superb food, and there are numerous
restaurants in town.

DIRETIONS - These will be emailed out nearer the time and maps will be
placed on a web site.

If you need any more information please contact us.

Kev & Rob
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Rob Daniels
21 St. Johns Road, Exeter, EX1 2HR
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Time to enter the debate.

I think I have been one of the most vocal opponents against splitting the
Tour for the last four years at AGMs, and it has been raised many times.
When the Tour was created, it was envisaged that it would grow at such a
rate that a split would be inevitable. Having said that, prior to this year,
we never actually had a 32 team tour tournament that had to turn a team
away. There were a couple like Southampton that used to only accommodate 28
teams and the issue was whether we had enough venues like Exeter, Swindon,
etc. that could handle 32 teams.

The biggest issue I saw with splitting the tour was that the majority of TDs
were playing for teams in the top 16, and there would be no guarantee that
the second division would happen. The tour was designed to benefit all
teams, but many felt it was elitist and focused too much on the top teams.
Splitting the tour too early would (In my opinion) have been to the
detriment of the lower teams and yet again, we would appear to be favouring
the top teams.

This year though, we have finally seen the growth we have been hoping for.
With nearly 48 teams wishing to compete in the tour, we really don't want to
be in the position of turning teams away to limit entry to just 32 teams.
Fortunately, Bristol can accommodate this number, and Exeter can certainly
mange 40. Given that so many student teams felt they couldn't enter Tour 2
because it was forced so close to student exam time (Tour 2 needed to be
after Brugges and Rotterdam), I doubt that there will be a relegation issue
just yet.

I believe we have finally got to the time when we should consider splitting
the tour (next year), but I would push for a smaller 'first division' made
up of just 16 teams, and having a larger second division, possibly with less
restrictions in terms of rostering / qualification for Nationals, and more
of an emphasis on fun.

There will still be many issues to resolve like relegation / promotion,
tournaments running on the same weekend causing problems with lifts,
increased costs, players in lower division seeing less 'top quality'
ultimate, etc. but there are far more venues that can handle 16 / 24 / 32
teams compared to 40+. Personally I love organising larger tournaments so
that entry costs can be reduced through economies of scale, but that's just
me.

I hope this helps to explain why the Tour hasn't been split before. It has
certainly been talked about at length for a number of years, but only now do
I believe that the conditions are right (Christ, I've become a politician).
I reserve the right to completely contradict myself if we only get 24 teams
entering Tour 2.

Kevin.

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a quick note on the subject of fun tournaments:

rest assured, the annual Exeter Hat tournament is being planned for =
either the weekend before Tour III (15th/16th June), or more likely, the =
weekend after Tour III (29th/30th June).  People attending Tour II will =
get to check out the venue.

More details ASAP




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Hiya!
I'm looking for a lift to Bristol from (preferably)
South London (although I can get to anywhere in
London...) on either friday night or saturday morning
(no preference).
If anyone could help it'd be most appreciated...
Cheers,
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Is the Tour commercially sponsored?  

As it seems to be getting so big it surely could be a
good way of getting some more revenue in and could
help to keep these costs down that so many have
commented about on Britdisc. 

Haribo? Tends to be popular at Ultimate tournees (hey
Ali?)

Matt
NL & Aurora  

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FWIW,

to: Adam/Matt, Si, (Chris Hughes?)

I've got the two UKU scoreboards that were borrowed for London Winter
League.
I'll bring them to Bristol this w/e.

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>it just seems that the
>attitude is very much that the top teams can play in whatever tournaments they
>like but if there's not enough space then the lower teams have to miss out.

so long as the top teams pay their money before the deadline, then yes,
this is exactly how the Tour works.
This is how the Tour was designed to work.

The Tour is designed to improve British Ultimate, focussing at the top,
and the players that are most likely to play for the GB Open teams.

>  I
>wonder what would have happened if there were only 32 places at Tour 1 and
>Clapham forgot to get their cheque in in time, for whatever reason?

They'd not be allowed to play. They (and other top teams) came close to
this in the last couple of years.

>There must've been other venues considered for the Tour events, some even put
>forward from lower teams, so the potential was there to have this second
>division.

I'm not so sure that many of the Tour events received more than one bid.
I know that Southampton bid for a Tour event, but didn't get it, so are
holding a non Tour event instead.  Maybe it's just the publicity machine
that's not working?

I'm not sure that we were aware that we'd get as many teams wanting to
play this year - in past years 32 has generally been a struggle to
manage at any one given event.

>  I just don't think enough is done for those of us who don't play at
>the same level you do.

Your theories are sound, but lacking in persuasive substance to the top
teams (they're happy, right, so why should they help!?).

If you can come up with a well thought-out proposal, we'll try to help
you implement it.

Some points to give serious consideration:
~ How many leagues, of what size(s)?
        Can you definitely schedule dates/venues/organisers?
~ Are they separate, or do they interlock somehow?
        How do you justify separate leagues?
~ If they interlock - how does promotion/relegation work?
        a) annually, b)tournament by tournament or c) other?


>Also, 2 smaller divisions would give a chance for smaller venues to be
>considered.  Those which are more likely to be run by the lower teams.


True, and true again.

So, if you're fairly certain to be relegated from a Tour event, why not
set up a "not the Tour" event for the same w/e as a Tour event (2 or 3
sound ideal!) to cater for all those 'spare' teams ?

It could be point of evidence toward promoting a split Tour in future.

Wayne

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From: Chris Hughes <cjhughes@talk21.com>
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All

Seedings are below. All calculated based on previous knowledge - until I ran out of information and then placed people according to my best guess below. Please save your effort of mailing me to tell me that 'we beat them' in regional indoors this year because you will be ignored. However do not assume these seedings are gospel - just assume that I won't change them.

Chris


Seedings		
1	Clapham 1	
2	Chevron Action Flash	
3	LeedsLeedsLeeds	
4	Fluid Druids	
5	TeamShark	
6	Fusion	
7	Red	
8	Clapham 2	
9	Whey	
10	Blue Arse Flies	
11	Smash & Grab	
12	Headrush 1	
13	Hammerage	
14	Un Poco Loco	
15	Strange Blue	
16	Bad Habits	
17	Chevron Action Flash Coed	
18	Atomic Horse	
19	STD Ultimate	
20	Shooting Project	
21	Blue Arse Flies 2	
22	Flyght Club 1	
23	Sublime	
24	Albatross	
25	Slipdisc 1	
26	PlayAngels	
27	Bliss	
28	Trigger Happy	
29	Mohawk Mwnci Magic	
30	JB7	
31	Mud Culture	
32	Rats of Nimh	
33	Headrush 2	
34	Kamaya Maya	
35	Mute	
36	Skunks	
37	Swivel	
38	Pyramus & Frisbee	
39	Revolution	
40	Martie McFly	
41	Slipdisc 2	
42	Red 2	
43	Hammerage 2	
44	Flyght Club 2	
		
		
Womens		
W1	Mavis	
W2	Princess Layout	
W3	Janet Hawes	
W4	Jane Doe	


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Hi BD

I know it's pretty short notice but kamaya maya are heading to Tour 1 but 
we've only got 8 players. Are there any half-decent or better players that 
aren't playing for anyone that would like to play for us for, hopefully, all 
of the tour?

I'm afraid we're low on drivers as well, so we can't offer a lift (unless 
you live in Stourbridge!). But we can offer fun ultimate and plenty of 
'kamaya maya' (!)

We are aware of the monkey business that is rostering and it's implications 
on the rest of people's summer ultimate. Anyone that is interested should 
find out about it or ask me.


Take it easy
Tim Billingham
kamaya maya
Stourbridge


PS Please reply to: tim@kamayamaya.co.uk

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Its closed - this one will not be a public forum.

We may have a few non-directors there on an invitational basis where
appropriate.

My previous email was simply a request for people to discuss ideas for the
expansion of national competitions. Any bright ideas which come from
Britdisc debate will no doubt be considered at the meeting this weekend.

Ben

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> Ben,
> On a slightly different note...
> this is the first I've heard of a UKU meeting at tour 1. Is this a closed
> meeting? Are you questions or suggestions for topics of discussion or
what?
> And before I get flamed, I'm just interested in our new Association and
> apologise if I missed any general mailing about this.
>
> Fraser
> (Fusion, Sneeeky's, etc.)
>
> > We are fully aware of the problem you have brought up and will be
> > discussing
> > it at a board meeting this weekend and at further meetings of the
> > competitions committee.
>
>

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Ok, I have a few suggestions.  I think at least one of them will be unpopular!

1.  Run the Tour and the Mixed Tour at the same time, at the same venue if
necessary.  Many players simply use the Mixed Tour as a sideline to their
ambitions in the open Tour and playing in Worlds etc.  Yet there are several
players who are completely the opposite, their main aim is to play in a
successful Mixed team.  Why don't we make people have to choose, at least then
the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed teams rather
than ones cobbled together in the season before.  This would reduce the number
of teams entering the Tour and negate the need for a second division, it could
also lead to stronger Mixed teams in the future in the same way that the Tour
has made stronger open teams.  If this did happen then there would be far more
free weekends for un-official tournaments, which open teams could play as Mixed
if they wanted, and allow there to be a Tour 5 again.

2.  Have a 1st and 2nd division.  Then have the 1st tournament of the season as
a qualifier for the top division.  The top 16 from the year before go straight
into Div 1, then have a tournament at the start of the year that determines the
rest of Div 1 for that season.  OR, I guess that qualifying tournament could be
at the end of a season (same weekend as Nationals?), which would determine Div 1
for the next year.  Once the 2 divisions are established you will then obviously
need co-ordinators for each, taken from teams in those divisions.  Then, these
co-ordniators are in charge of the tournaments for that division, not
necessarily as permanent TDs but just ensure that things get done.

3.  In conjuction with 2., have a database of Frisbee 'friendly' tournament
venues, which can be approached centrally by UK Ultimate rather than by
individuals who want to run a tournament (as these are often from the top teams,
so would not always be able to be a TD).  Invite bids from teams to manage each
tournament at the centrally found venue, I see no reason why the venue and the
team HAS to come from the same place, obviously this would be easier but people
have cars!  The perks for the management team is that they get to keep the
profits from the tournament.  This way Div 1 and Div 2 can manage themselves.

4.  The ideal would be to have the two Divisions running on the same weekends,
as this would free up other weekends for 'fun' tournaments or another Tour
event.

5.  Now Wayne suggested that I need to think about how many teams in each
division.  Hmmmm, I think maybe 20-24 in Div 1, leaving 4-8 places to be fought
for in the qualifying tournament.  I think this would leave enough teams to have
a decent sized Div 2.

There, some suggestions.  But there must be hundreds of other out there...

Si
(Slipdisc)





Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk> on 08/04/2002 20:30:58

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>it just seems that the
>attitude is very much that the top teams can play in whatever tournaments they
>like but if there's not enough space then the lower teams have to miss out.

so long as the top teams pay their money before the deadline, then yes,
this is exactly how the Tour works.
This is how the Tour was designed to work.

The Tour is designed to improve British Ultimate, focussing at the top,
and the players that are most likely to play for the GB Open teams.

>  I
>wonder what would have happened if there were only 32 places at Tour 1 and
>Clapham forgot to get their cheque in in time, for whatever reason?

They'd not be allowed to play. They (and other top teams) came close to
this in the last couple of years.

>There must've been other venues considered for the Tour events, some even put
>forward from lower teams, so the potential was there to have this second
>division.

I'm not so sure that many of the Tour events received more than one bid.
I know that Southampton bid for a Tour event, but didn't get it, so are
holding a non Tour event instead.  Maybe it's just the publicity machine
that's not working?

I'm not sure that we were aware that we'd get as many teams wanting to
play this year - in past years 32 has generally been a struggle to
manage at any one given event.

>  I just don't think enough is done for those of us who don't play at
>the same level you do.

Your theories are sound, but lacking in persuasive substance to the top
teams (they're happy, right, so why should they help!?).

If you can come up with a well thought-out proposal, we'll try to help
you implement it.

Some points to give serious consideration:
~ How many leagues, of what size(s)?
        Can you definitely schedule dates/venues/organisers?
~ Are they separate, or do they interlock somehow?
        How do you justify separate leagues?
~ If they interlock - how does promotion/relegation work?
        a) annually, b)tournament by tournament or c) other?


>Also, 2 smaller divisions would give a chance for smaller venues to be
>considered.  Those which are more likely to be run by the lower teams.


True, and true again.

So, if you're fairly certain to be relegated from a Tour event, why not
set up a "not the Tour" event for the same w/e as a Tour event (2 or 3
sound ideal!) to cater for all those 'spare' teams ?

It could be point of evidence toward promoting a split Tour in future.

Wayne

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As first co-ordinator of the Mixed Tour, Id really hate to see our progress
undone, which I think the below suggestion would do.



> 1.  Run the Tour and the Mixed Tour at the same time, at the same venue if
> necessary.  Many players simply use the Mixed Tour as a sideline to their
> ambitions in the open Tour and playing in Worlds etc.  Yet there are
several
> players who are completely the opposite, their main aim is to play in a
> successful Mixed team.  Why don't we make people have to choose, at least
then
> the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed teams
rather
> than ones cobbled together in the season before.  This would reduce the
number
> of teams entering the Tour and negate the need for a second division, it
could
> also lead to stronger Mixed teams in the future in the same way that the
Tour
> has made stronger open teams.

This sounds just like the argument for having the women's tour on the same
weekends as the open tour!  Subsitiute 'women' for 'mixed' and it would be
the same argument.  Actually, I'm in agreement with a few points made above,
although some are pretty generalized statements that certainly don't apply
to all Mixed players.

But, we're talking about forcing a choice again.  You'll note that the
womens tour only has 4 teams entered right now, exactly because the choice
between open and womens was forced.  (Ask Bliss about the level of
competition or the Red girls about choosing between open and womens, if you
need proof.)  I think a choice between mixed and open would result in even
fewer than 4 teams.

Unfortunately, this brings up that old circular argument- there aren't
enough womens/ mixed teams playing to support a really competetive tour.
There won't be enough womens/mixed players until a competeive tour is
established.  (Although I think the Mixed tour is getting pretty close to a
hard-@ss tournament.  Any of the top 4 teams can win it on any given
weekend.  And the others are catching up quickly.)

I know that there are hard decisions to be made, but I hope we won't take
apart a new, succesful division just to improve (note: not SAVE) another
division.

nancy

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I'll stick them up on the website tonight.

Just received them from Chris.

Ben


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Andy Cotgreave <Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:33:54 +0100 

>hi there,
>Have the rostering rules been finalised for the Tour yet? We've got some
>questions we need answered before the weekend, and would like to see the
>rules asap. If we don't get the rules in time for the weekend, will
>UkUltimate or the Tour committee be prepared for some rostering changes
>between tours 1 and 2? without the rules, no teams can correctly roster
>themselves, presumably?
>
>cheers,
>Andy
>
>PS - again, i'm impressed by the levels of organisation this year, and i
>appreciate all the effort being put into making UKU work!
>

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Si,

>> Why don't we make people have to choose, at least then
>> the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed teams
rather
>> than ones cobbled together in the season before.

GB Mixed Teams in Recent Tournaments:
WUCC 99 = Blue Arse Flies, Mild Mannered Janitors (the "original" mixed
team, Gael Force
WFDF 00 = GB ("Largely" made up of Chevron and Blue Arse Flies players)
EUCC 01 = Blue Arse Flies, Strange Blue
WUCC 02 = Blue Arse Flies, Chevron
... think I'm spotting a trend here

All these teams have proved their commitment to Mixed ultimate and it's
development over the last few seasons and  the squad BAF take to Hawaii
will be the strongest BAF Mixed squad yet assembled for a major
tournament... Hardly "cobbled" together at the last minute??? The Open Tour
provides a perfect training ground for Mixed teams in the build-up to major
tournaments and gives us the opportunity to play against quality opposition
week in, week out whether at an Open or Mixed event. To marginalise the
Mixed Tour by making it a "sideshow" to the Open Tour would only serve to
weaken the Mixed teams we send to major tournaments rather than improve
them.

BAF are committed to providing the opportunity to compete in all
(non-junior) variations of the sport (Open, Mixed and Womens) as proved by
sending two teams to the vast majority of both the Open & Mixed Tours last
season, a large number of indoor tournaments and all of the major womens
tournaments. To force players to have to make a decision between Open v
Mixed v Womens is only taking the sport backwards...

Balti
BAF 34



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Jeez, calm it people.  I was challenged to come up with some ideas, so I did, I
never said DO IT!  I have no predudice about the Mixed Tour, or a Women's Tour
(some of my best friends play in Mixed teams!).  I would prefer to debate the
pros/cons of my other suggestions, or have other people come up with their own
on how to get away from potentially having to relegate some teams from the Tour
because some venues are bigger than others.  My suggestion was to have some form
of 2 divisions, and I offered a way of doing that.  I only have one small gripe
about the Mixed Tour and that's that it has reduced the number of free weekends
over the summer for non-competitive tournaments.  However, if we had more girls
in our squad then we would be entering these tournaments and it would be other
teams complaining about it!

Don't take this personally, add to the debate rather than just criticise.

Si
(Slipdisc)




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Subject:  Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments




Si,

>> Why don't we make people have to choose, at least then
>> the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed teams
rather
>> than ones cobbled together in the season before.

GB Mixed Teams in Recent Tournaments:
WUCC 99 = Blue Arse Flies, Mild Mannered Janitors (the "original" mixed
team, Gael Force
WFDF 00 = GB ("Largely" made up of Chevron and Blue Arse Flies players)
EUCC 01 = Blue Arse Flies, Strange Blue
WUCC 02 = Blue Arse Flies, Chevron
... think I'm spotting a trend here

All these teams have proved their commitment to Mixed ultimate and it's
development over the last few seasons and  the squad BAF take to Hawaii
will be the strongest BAF Mixed squad yet assembled for a major
tournament... Hardly "cobbled" together at the last minute??? The Open Tour
provides a perfect training ground for Mixed teams in the build-up to major
tournaments and gives us the opportunity to play against quality opposition
week in, week out whether at an Open or Mixed event. To marginalise the
Mixed Tour by making it a "sideshow" to the Open Tour would only serve to
weaken the Mixed teams we send to major tournaments rather than improve
them.

BAF are committed to providing the opportunity to compete in all
(non-junior) variations of the sport (Open, Mixed and Womens) as proved by
sending two teams to the vast majority of both the Open & Mixed Tours last
season, a large number of indoor tournaments and all of the major womens
tournaments. To force players to have to make a decision between Open v
Mixed v Womens is only taking the sport backwards...

Balti
BAF 34



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I completely agree with Balti. The mixed tour is also
a great way for women to improve, as women are always
in demand and often get to play at a higher level of
ultimate than they would in the open tour (and also
women's tour to a certain extent...)

Splitting up the tour seems like the only sensible way
to develop the sport, even tho' I'll be suprised if we
get 44 teams at any other tour event, esp. considering
student teams/summer holidays etc. Given that we've
had a 35% increase in teams this year, if it continues
us lowly teams will just have to guess how the better
teams play....

nicole
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Anyone have any idea when this great event is kicking off? Captains meeting?
First games?

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Sent: 05 April 2002 19:43
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Here's the original email posted to BritDisc by the TDs - it should
contain all you need to know?

for a map, you could check out:
http://www.westglos.org.uk/main/clifton_college_map_page.htm


Wayne


Mon, 25 Feb 2002, by Mathew Edwards <mailto:matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk>;
 Subject: Bristol Tour 1 invite
>
>TOUR ONE BRISTOL
>
>13th & 14th April 2002 
>
>    Dear All 
>
>    You are invited to Bristol Tour One, which will be held at Clifton
>    College Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the
>    13th and 14th of April. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 26
>    th of March. 
>
>    ENTRY FEE - £145 per team
>
>    A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of £25 is available for student
>    teams i.e. £120.
>
>    A separate Women's Tour will run alongside the Open Tour and any
>    women's teams wishing to enter will be charged £80. 
>
>    CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available (free of charge) with 24hr
>    toilet facilities open to all. Changing rooms with hot showers will
>    be readily accessible. A list of local B&B / Guest Houses available
>    on request.
>
>    The camp site will be accessible from Friday evening, and the
>    sports ground are keeping their bar open until around 2300hrs for
>    anyone wishing to have a few beers before bed.
>
>    GRUB/PARTY - A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff is
>    available all day Saturday and Sunday as well as Saturday evening,
>    followed by a party and a bar with a late licence, hopefully of 1am
>    (currently applied for) 
>
>    DIRECTIONS FOR THE SPORTS GROUND - From North, South, East or West:
>    M5 - exit at Jct 19. Follow A369 towards Bristol for approximately
>    4 miles on a windy road through small villages until you see a
>    narrow turning on the right hand side signed posted for Clifton
>    Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep up on you - if
>    you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! - this does
>    not include the pedestrian crossing lights at the George Inn at
>    Abbots Leigh Village).
>
>    CAMPSITE - Instead of turning into the sports ground you continue
>    up to the traffic lights and turn right. 350 yards on the right
>    hand side you will see a gate. This is the entrance to the camping
>    area. Please pitch your tents in the bottom right hand side of the
>    field.
>
>    If you need any more information please contact me.
>
>    Matt & Adam
>
>     
>
>    Mathew Edwards
>    4 Wick Crescent
>    Brislington
>    Bristol BS4 4HL
>    0781 138 2084

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I think its fair to same that at times there *have* been instances of teams 'cobbled together' but better to have a cobbled together team attending international clubs tournaments than no team at all. Hopefully more teams fighting for places in the future will mean this becomes a thing of the past. Lets recruit even more players so that every UK slot is taken.

My take on this is that in fact the problem we have in the UK is with player loyalty (to their teams) and the existance of a stockmarket mentality when it comes to getting players for one's own team. 

All of this is completely within the rules as they stand so it is a matter for UK Ultimate to tighten them up if its appropriate. We shall be looking at this soon (If nothing else, this will prevent the usual rumours, grumbles and poachings which we get each time an international clubs event is on the horizon - something I can do without thanks!)

Back to the original point about running different divisions at the same time, this is not something I want to see happen as it reduces choice for teams and players. One of the main points of my 'manifesto' (if you can call a paragraph a manifesto!) was that we should encourage choice of events for teams, indeed this is enshrined in the constitution of UK Ultimate (written by er.... me!)

If teams are using the mixed division to get to international events 'by any means' then the answer lies with improving and enforcing player loyalty to their mixed team rather than removing the choice between divisions. 

If one division suffers because of another then at least you can say players were offered the choice. In such a situation UK Ultimate needs to be positively encouraging the ailing division rather than forcing people into it.

Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've been lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself. However, as individual players we must recognise that doing this should be on the basis of long-term commitment to a team. If we have this attitude then we will end up with more committed teams and therefore more *individual* players getting the chance to attend. Heck if you're not going to Hawaii go to Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you will still have a good time and you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your roster for this!!! 

Are UK players ready to accept the idea of tighter and more longer-term definitions of what constitutes a team?

Something else for you to discuss......

Ben



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:26:38 +0100

>
>Si,
>
>>> Why don't we make people have to choose, at least then
>>> the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed teams
>rather
>>> than ones cobbled together in the season before.
>
>GB Mixed Teams in Recent Tournaments:
>WUCC 99 = Blue Arse Flies, Mild Mannered Janitors (the "original" mixed
>team, Gael Force
>WFDF 00 = GB ("Largely" made up of Chevron and Blue Arse Flies players)
>EUCC 01 = Blue Arse Flies, Strange Blue
>WUCC 02 = Blue Arse Flies, Chevron
>... think I'm spotting a trend here
>
>All these teams have proved their commitment to Mixed ultimate and it's
>development over the last few seasons and  the squad BAF take to Hawaii
>will be the strongest BAF Mixed squad yet assembled for a major
>tournament... Hardly "cobbled" together at the last minute??? The Open Tour
>provides a perfect training ground for Mixed teams in the build-up to major
>tournaments and gives us the opportunity to play against quality opposition
>week in, week out whether at an Open or Mixed event. To marginalise the
>Mixed Tour by making it a "sideshow" to the Open Tour would only serve to
>weaken the Mixed teams we send to major tournaments rather than improve
>them.
>
>BAF are committed to providing the opportunity to compete in all
>(non-junior) variations of the sport (Open, Mixed and Womens) as proved by
>sending two teams to the vast majority of both the Open & Mixed Tours last
>season, a large number of indoor tournaments and all of the major womens
>tournaments. To force players to have to make a decision between Open v
>Mixed v Womens is only taking the sport backwards...
>
>Balti
>BAF 34
>
>
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>In my opinion the Mixed Tour needs to remain as is and running a Women's Tour along side the Open Tour is the best solution, slightly scuppered this year by the fact that women playing Co-ed in Hawaii are playing Co-ed in the open tour instead of the women's tour (and i am not attributing blame.) </DIV>
<P>Next year with there only being the need for one GB Co-ed team, and one GB Women's team, there should be a greater (female) resource to devote to the seperate Tours. </P>
<P>I also advocate the setting up of a split Tour, for many of the reasons listed already, but would like to make to point that people should stop saying that a reason for not doing it that they want to watch the better teams play. Either you will be winning the "lower" division and so you will be promoted and can play the top teams or there will be teams who are better than you and so you can watch them play and aim to beat them.&nbsp; </P>
<P>wigsy </P>
<P>&gt;From: Nicole Roberts <MAAAFY_BIRD@YAHOO.CO.UK></P>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: britdisc <BRITDISC@CSV.WARWICK.AC.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: mixed tour 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 04:32:04 -0700 (PDT) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I completely agree with Balti. The mixed tour is also 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;a great way for women to improve, as women are always 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;in demand and often get to play at a higher level of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;ultimate than they would in the open tour (and also 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;women's tour to a certain extent...) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Splitting up the tour seems like the only sensible way 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to develop the sport, even tho' I'll be suprised if we 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;get 44 teams at any other tour event, esp. considering 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;student teams/summer holidays etc. Given that we've 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;had a 35% increase in teams this year, if it continues 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;us lowly teams will just have to guess how the better 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;teams play.... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;nicole 
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All,
Captains meeting is yet to be decided upon but there are 16 games starting
at 9am!
A provissional schedule etc will be posted on BD tomorrow with B&B's.
Camping is available Friday night and the bar is open!
See you there
Adam & Matt
----- Original Message -----
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> Anyone have any idea when this great event is kicking off? Captains
meeting?
> First games?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: 05 April 2002 19:43
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Where in Bristol is Tour 1?
>
>
>
> Here's the original email posted to BritDisc by the TDs - it should
> contain all you need to know?
>
> for a map, you could check out:
> http://www.westglos.org.uk/main/clifton_college_map_page.htm
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
> Mon, 25 Feb 2002, by Mathew Edwards <mailto:matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk>;
>  Subject: Bristol Tour 1 invite
> >
> >TOUR ONE BRISTOL
> >
> >13th & 14th April 2002
> >
> >    Dear All
> >
> >    You are invited to Bristol Tour One, which will be held at Clifton
> >    College Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the
> >    13th and 14th of April. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 26
> >    th of March.
> >
> >    ENTRY FEE - £145 per team
> >
> >    A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of £25 is available for student
> >    teams i.e. £120.
> >
> >    A separate Women's Tour will run alongside the Open Tour and any
> >    women's teams wishing to enter will be charged £80.
> >
> >    CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available (free of charge) with 24hr
> >    toilet facilities open to all. Changing rooms with hot showers will
> >    be readily accessible. A list of local B&B / Guest Houses available
> >    on request.
> >
> >    The camp site will be accessible from Friday evening, and the
> >    sports ground are keeping their bar open until around 2300hrs for
> >    anyone wishing to have a few beers before bed.
> >
> >    GRUB/PARTY - A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff is
> >    available all day Saturday and Sunday as well as Saturday evening,
> >    followed by a party and a bar with a late licence, hopefully of 1am
> >    (currently applied for)
> >
> >    DIRECTIONS FOR THE SPORTS GROUND - From North, South, East or West:
> >    M5 - exit at Jct 19. Follow A369 towards Bristol for approximately
> >    4 miles on a windy road through small villages until you see a
> >    narrow turning on the right hand side signed posted for Clifton
> >    Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep up on you - if
> >    you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! - this does
> >    not include the pedestrian crossing lights at the George Inn at
> >    Abbots Leigh Village).
> >
> >    CAMPSITE - Instead of turning into the sports ground you continue
> >    up to the traffic lights and turn right. 350 yards on the right
> >    hand side you will see a gate. This is the entrance to the camping
> >    area. Please pitch your tents in the bottom right hand side of the
> >    field.
> >
> >    If you need any more information please contact me.
> >
> >    Matt & Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >    Mathew Edwards
> >    4 Wick Crescent
> >    Brislington
> >    Bristol BS4 4HL
> >    0781 138 2084
>
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I read an email on Britdisc (maybe 6 weeks ago), regarding the number of
teams entering each event over the past few years, and although it has
steadily grown (big up! to all those people who promote and are proactive to
newcomers), the number of teams tends to drop as the year progresses... last
years Nationals being relatively small.

As a pro-advocate of some type of 2 division structure, I think it would be
great if the Ultimate Premier Tour events were restricted to <16 to 24>
teams, leaving anything between 16 and 32 at a 2nd Division or UKUltimate
Tour Events (when there is 40 in the second division, it will be the right
time to consider a 3rd).  But i dont think it should be this year (just my
opinion).  Next year would be much better advised, time for discussion and
planning will be available, rather than rushing headlong into something many
are unconvinced about.

Lets see this done well... Hell, we might even win a second Div event...

And now
Women... I have to say that after the successes of Womens Indoor Ultimate
this past few months, I was saddened to hear that few were willing to enter
Bristol.  I wonder if the problem is the same as with Students generally...
there seems to be some complacancy in introducing students to Outdoors...
I'm not pulling anyone down, but considering that we have just had the
calmest Spring period in living (student) history, I'm confused (not
unusual).

Last
Thanks to the chap who scanned that Telegraph Article in...  I'll go and
check it out now.

See you all at TOUR ONE !!!

s
nottingham ultimate
FlyghtClub
Inbred
anyone who'll have me...





Sam

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Si,

Regarding Geo teams - I love the idea of people playing where they live - it works for my team! However I think tightening up geo-regulations would probably open a whole new can of worms (do we have to get the maps and dividers out?) 

I note that in the last couple of years most of the top eight teams have become 'more geo' quite naturally as they have realised the sense in having local players who can be relied upon to attend regular training sessions. (I like to think that Red showed what could be achieved when a bunch of local goobers bothered to train regularly!)

I think strengthening the emphasis on loyalty would actually be the best way to encourage locally-based teams (who would want to commit to regularly travelling across the country to training for a whole season?)

Back to the Tour issue, Simon, you tell us! How should we resolve the problem of lack of capacity for teams (divisionalised or not)? We haven't yet got a particular solution in mind yet though I know there suitable people thinking about this. I hope this weekend's board meeting produces something.

You seem to see it as if we're intentionally discarding some lower teams - thats not fair. I would say that we've had a sudden unexpected increase in demand which we hadn't planned for. I still take offense at the implication that somehow we don't care about these lower teams though I'm not sure their presence in the Tour (as it stands) is necessarily suitable for them or the competition. Lets devise a broader range of competitions so that there is something for everyone.

Examples (for sake of argument) :-

Top 16 division - rostering compulsory, attendance of all events compulsory, uniforms compulsory

Lower x division - unrostered teams allowed, missing an event allowed, dropping worst result allowed

As the number of teams increases we can expand the number of divisions keeping the bottom one as a catch-all for those new teams who want to get a foot in the door. I'm sure those responsible can devise a workable promotion/releagation system.


Alternatively we could look at regionalisation at the lower level. I like the idea of this because it reduces the amount of travelling to tournaments - it would certainly encourage local teams.

What about leagues? Another idea. Travel to a Saturday fixture to play a few of matches, socialise with the locals, go home and enjoy Sunday at home with kids/friends/family, don't turn up to work on Monday morning feeling like a zombie.

I don't mean these to be a particularly concrete suggestions (I'm not the DOC!) just debate-fodder.

Ben


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Simon Statham" <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:16:35 +0100

>A fair point, I would also like to see a much stronger emphasis on geo-teams.
>You should play where you live.  We have come up against it quite a bit in the
>past, having good players come to our practices but then play for other teams in
>tournaments.  It's no bloody wonder we struggle to get better year by year, when
>we have to start all our players from scratch.  Should be better this year, have
>managed to recruit some people who have actually played for a few years before!
>
>But anyway, I don't know how this got turned around to a debate on Tour vs Mixed
>Tour.  I wanted to hear about solutions to potentially relegating some teams
>from the Tour because some venues can host more teams than others.  I was
>frustrated by the attitude that lower teams can be just excluded because they
>don't matter (although looking at the teams in T1 I think our 2nd team should be
>ok, but the point still stands).
>
>What proposals to this problem, or simply 2 division proposals for whatever
>reason, have been considered before?  Do my suggestions earlier offer anything
>towards making it happen or have they been thought of before and discounted for
>what ever valid reason.
>
>We (frisbee players) appreciate the hard work you put in to the game, and that
>changes have happened and are in the process of happening.  But I think you'll
>agree that things aren't there yet!
>
>I'd just like to know that them in charge are listening!
>
>Si
>(Slipdisc)
>
>
>
>
>"Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net> on 09/04/2002 13:08:49
>
>Please respond to ben@ravilious.net
>
>To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>cc:    (bcc: Simon Statham/Transportation/BCC)
>
>
>Subject:  Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments
>
>
>
>
>
>I think its fair to same that at times there *have* been instances of teams
>'cobbled together' but better to have a cobbled together team attending
>international clubs tournaments than no team at all. Hopefully more teams
>fighting for places in the future will mean this becomes a thing of the past.
>Lets recruit even more players so that every UK slot is taken.
>
>My take on this is that in fact the problem we have in the UK is with player
>loyalty (to their teams) and the existance of a stockmarket mentality when it
>comes to getting players for one's own team.
>
>All of this is completely within the rules as they stand so it is a matter for
>UK Ultimate to tighten them up if its appropriate. We shall be looking at this
>soon (If nothing else, this will prevent the usual rumours, grumbles and
>poachings which we get each time an international clubs event is on the horizon
>- something I can do without thanks!)
>
>Back to the original point about running different divisions at the same time,
>this is not something I want to see happen as it reduces choice for teams and
>players. One of the main points of my 'manifesto' (if you can call a paragraph a
>manifesto!) was that we should encourage choice of events for teams, indeed this
>is enshrined in the constitution of UK Ultimate (written by er.... me!)
>
>If teams are using the mixed division to get to international events 'by any
>means' then the answer lies with improving and enforcing player loyalty to their
>mixed team rather than removing the choice between divisions.
>
>If one division suffers because of another then at least you can say players
>were offered the choice. In such a situation UK Ultimate needs to be positively
>encouraging the ailing division rather than forcing people into it.
>
>Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've been
>lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself. However, as
>individual players we must recognise that doing this should be on the basis of
>long-term commitment to a team. If we have this attitude then we will end up
>with more committed teams and therefore more *individual* players getting the
>chance to attend. Heck if you're not going to Hawaii go to
>Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you will still have a good time and
>you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your roster for this!!!
>
>Are UK players ready to accept the idea of tighter and more longer-term
>definitions of what constitutes a team?
>
>Something else for you to discuss......
>
>Ben
>
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com
>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:26:38 +0100
>
>>
>>Si,
>>
>>>> Why don't we make people have to choose, at least then
>>>> the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed teams
>>rather
>>>> than ones cobbled together in the season before.
>>
>>GB Mixed Teams in Recent Tournaments:
>>WUCC 99 = Blue Arse Flies, Mild Mannered Janitors (the "original" mixed
>>team, Gael Force
>>WFDF 00 = GB ("Largely" made up of Chevron and Blue Arse Flies players)
>>EUCC 01 = Blue Arse Flies, Strange Blue
>>WUCC 02 = Blue Arse Flies, Chevron
>>... think I'm spotting a trend here
>>
>>All these teams have proved their commitment to Mixed ultimate and it's
>>development over the last few seasons and  the squad BAF take to Hawaii
>>will be the strongest BAF Mixed squad yet assembled for a major
>>tournament... Hardly "cobbled" together at the last minute??? The Open Tour
>>provides a perfect training ground for Mixed teams in the build-up to major
>>tournaments and gives us the opportunity to play against quality opposition
>>week in, week out whether at an Open or Mixed event. To marginalise the
>>Mixed Tour by making it a "sideshow" to the Open Tour would only serve to
>>weaken the Mixed teams we send to major tournaments rather than improve
>>them.
>>
>>BAF are committed to providing the opportunity to compete in all
>>(non-junior) variations of the sport (Open, Mixed and Womens) as proved by
>>sending two teams to the vast majority of both the Open & Mixed Tours last
>>season, a large number of indoor tournaments and all of the major womens
>>tournaments. To force players to have to make a decision between Open v
>>Mixed v Womens is only taking the sport backwards...
>>
>>Balti
>>BAF 34
>>
>>
>>
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Me, tell you?  I wouldn't presume to tell you how to do your job!

I can't TELL you how to sort this out, I've offered some suggestions (one of
which proved slightly contraversial!) and I hope they could at least be of some
use to those who actually do make the decisions (if they read them).

Why not restrict the number of teams entering the Tour in the future?  Decide
the teams who qualify through Nationals and a qualifying tournament, at the
beginning or end of a season.  This at least would then reduce the level of
uncertainty for lower teams about whether or not they'll be able to enter events
later in the year or if they'll be excluded.

I like the Tour, I like the fact that you can get a good idea about where your
team lies on a National standing, so I think that if the main Tour is reduced
then what comes underneath it should be equivalent to it.  i.e. a National
competition that anyone can enter, then at the end of the year you can say to
yourselves, yeah we went up a few places this year, or boo we must try harder to
rise in the rankings.  Also, the potential to qualify for the main Tour will be
a big incentive to middler order teams who currently play their socks off on the
Tour and toil to 18th/19th/20th place etc.  So, whilst it's satisfying to
improve your seeding for the next tournament the potential to get 'Promoted',
will be a real cherry.

It won't be easy to organise but if 44 open teams are entering tournaments then
there has to be scope for a 2nd tier.  And I agree that having Clapham playing
our 2nd team for instance is doing no-one any good.

Si.





"Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net> on 09/04/2002 14:23:11

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Subject:  Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments



Si,

Regarding Geo teams - I love the idea of people playing where they live - it
works for my team! However I think tightening up geo-regulations would probably
open a whole new can of worms (do we have to get the maps and dividers out?)

I note that in the last couple of years most of the top eight teams have become
'more geo' quite naturally as they have realised the sense in having local
players who can be relied upon to attend regular training sessions. (I like to
think that Red showed what could be achieved when a bunch of local goobers
bothered to train regularly!)

I think strengthening the emphasis on loyalty would actually be the best way to
encourage locally-based teams (who would want to commit to regularly travelling
across the country to training for a whole season?)

Back to the Tour issue, Simon, you tell us! How should we resolve the problem of
lack of capacity for teams (divisionalised or not)? We haven't yet got a
particular solution in mind yet though I know there suitable people thinking
about this. I hope this weekend's board meeting produces something.

You seem to see it as if we're intentionally discarding some lower teams - thats
not fair. I would say that we've had a sudden unexpected increase in demand
which we hadn't planned for. I still take offense at the implication that
somehow we don't care about these lower teams though I'm not sure their presence
in the Tour (as it stands) is necessarily suitable for them or the competition.
Lets devise a broader range of competitions so that there is something for
everyone.

Examples (for sake of argument) :-

Top 16 division - rostering compulsory, attendance of all events compulsory,
uniforms compulsory

Lower x division - unrostered teams allowed, missing an event allowed, dropping
worst result allowed

As the number of teams increases we can expand the number of divisions keeping
the bottom one as a catch-all for those new teams who want to get a foot in the
door. I'm sure those responsible can devise a workable promotion/releagation
system.


Alternatively we could look at regionalisation at the lower level. I like the
idea of this because it reduces the amount of travelling to tournaments - it
would certainly encourage local teams.

What about leagues? Another idea. Travel to a Saturday fixture to play a few of
matches, socialise with the locals, go home and enjoy Sunday at home with
kids/friends/family, don't turn up to work on Monday morning feeling like a
zombie.

I don't mean these to be a particularly concrete suggestions (I'm not the DOC!)
just debate-fodder.

Ben


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Simon Statham" <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:16:35 +0100

>A fair point, I would also like to see a much stronger emphasis on geo-teams.
>You should play where you live.  We have come up against it quite a bit in the
>past, having good players come to our practices but then play for other teams
in
>tournaments.  It's no bloody wonder we struggle to get better year by year,
when
>we have to start all our players from scratch.  Should be better this year,
have
>managed to recruit some people who have actually played for a few years before!
>
>But anyway, I don't know how this got turned around to a debate on Tour vs
Mixed
>Tour.  I wanted to hear about solutions to potentially relegating some teams
>from the Tour because some venues can host more teams than others.  I was
>frustrated by the attitude that lower teams can be just excluded because they
>don't matter (although looking at the teams in T1 I think our 2nd team should
be
>ok, but the point still stands).
>
>What proposals to this problem, or simply 2 division proposals for whatever
>reason, have been considered before?  Do my suggestions earlier offer anything
>towards making it happen or have they been thought of before and discounted for
>what ever valid reason.
>
>We (frisbee players) appreciate the hard work you put in to the game, and that
>changes have happened and are in the process of happening.  But I think you'll
>agree that things aren't there yet!
>
>I'd just like to know that them in charge are listening!
>
>Si
>(Slipdisc)
>
>
>
>
>"Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net> on 09/04/2002 13:08:49
>
>Please respond to ben@ravilious.net
>
>To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>cc:    (bcc: Simon Statham/Transportation/BCC)
>
>
>Subject:  Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments
>
>
>
>
>
>I think its fair to same that at times there *have* been instances of teams
>'cobbled together' but better to have a cobbled together team attending
>international clubs tournaments than no team at all. Hopefully more teams
>fighting for places in the future will mean this becomes a thing of the past.
>Lets recruit even more players so that every UK slot is taken.
>
>My take on this is that in fact the problem we have in the UK is with player
>loyalty (to their teams) and the existance of a stockmarket mentality when it
>comes to getting players for one's own team.
>
>All of this is completely within the rules as they stand so it is a matter for
>UK Ultimate to tighten them up if its appropriate. We shall be looking at this
>soon (If nothing else, this will prevent the usual rumours, grumbles and
>poachings which we get each time an international clubs event is on the horizon
>- something I can do without thanks!)
>
>Back to the original point about running different divisions at the same time,
>this is not something I want to see happen as it reduces choice for teams and
>players. One of the main points of my 'manifesto' (if you can call a paragraph
a
>manifesto!) was that we should encourage choice of events for teams, indeed
this
>is enshrined in the constitution of UK Ultimate (written by er.... me!)
>
>If teams are using the mixed division to get to international events 'by any
>means' then the answer lies with improving and enforcing player loyalty to
their
>mixed team rather than removing the choice between divisions.
>
>If one division suffers because of another then at least you can say players
>were offered the choice. In such a situation UK Ultimate needs to be positively
>encouraging the ailing division rather than forcing people into it.
>
>Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've been
>lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself. However, as
>individual players we must recognise that doing this should be on the basis of
>long-term commitment to a team. If we have this attitude then we will end up
>with more committed teams and therefore more *individual* players getting the
>chance to attend. Heck if you're not going to Hawaii go to
>Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you will still have a good time and
>you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your roster for this!!!
>
>Are UK players ready to accept the idea of tighter and more longer-term
>definitions of what constitutes a team?
>
>Something else for you to discuss......
>
>Ben
>
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com
>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:26:38 +0100
>
>>
>>Si,
>>
>>>> Why don't we make people have to choose, at least then
>>>> the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed teams
>>rather
>>>> than ones cobbled together in the season before.
>>
>>GB Mixed Teams in Recent Tournaments:
>>WUCC 99 = Blue Arse Flies, Mild Mannered Janitors (the "original" mixed
>>team, Gael Force
>>WFDF 00 = GB ("Largely" made up of Chevron and Blue Arse Flies players)
>>EUCC 01 = Blue Arse Flies, Strange Blue
>>WUCC 02 = Blue Arse Flies, Chevron
>>... think I'm spotting a trend here
>>
>>All these teams have proved their commitment to Mixed ultimate and it's
>>development over the last few seasons and  the squad BAF take to Hawaii
>>will be the strongest BAF Mixed squad yet assembled for a major
>>tournament... Hardly "cobbled" together at the last minute??? The Open Tour
>>provides a perfect training ground for Mixed teams in the build-up to major
>>tournaments and gives us the opportunity to play against quality opposition
>>week in, week out whether at an Open or Mixed event. To marginalise the
>>Mixed Tour by making it a "sideshow" to the Open Tour would only serve to
>>weaken the Mixed teams we send to major tournaments rather than improve
>>them.
>>
>>BAF are committed to providing the opportunity to compete in all
>>(non-junior) variations of the sport (Open, Mixed and Womens) as proved by
>>sending two teams to the vast majority of both the Open & Mixed Tours last
>>season, a large number of indoor tournaments and all of the major womens
>>tournaments. To force players to have to make a decision between Open v
>>Mixed v Womens is only taking the sport backwards...
>>
>>Balti
>>BAF 34
>>
>>
>>
>>___________________________________________________________________________
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Or "Copa Cabana Strikes Back"

Full on and raring to go.  
A couple of teams are unsure that they will be able to make it... 
so if anyone else is interested, please let us know.  Already the search for
pickups is on 

PLease note that those who have not confirmed (ie sent a cheque) need to do
so by the END OF THIS WEEK (April 10th)

In no particular order are 

1. Excess Bee (Confirmed)
2. BAF (Confirmed)
3. Salt n Sauce (Confirmed)
4. Martha and the Mootones(Confirmed)
5. We've got Guns (so you best be scared)(Confirmed)
6. Red (Confirmed)

8. Inbreds (Confirmed)
9. FlyghtClub(Confirmed)
10. SuperFly(Confirmed)
11. Mental Disc
12. Discophilia
13. Easy Tiger
14. Squaws n Hawks
15. Zoo
16. Cyrille
17. SkuMY
18. HIghfields Hockey
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Dear All,

After following the interesting discussion on tour divisions, mixed events 
and saturation of the calender i would like to throw in some suggestions.

Firstly, i believe that separating the Tour into two divsions should be 
avoided in principle. I can remember when i first started what a thrill it 
was watching and learning from the best teams in the country - it is a 
valuable part of the tournament experience for those that are new to the 
game. As i say, i disaggree in principle but am not blind to the 
impracticalities of hosting a 40+ tournament and don't have any better 
solutions than those suggested. Onlt that we perhaps could use a 'winter 
league' style qualification before the outdoor season.

Keeping the Tour and Mixed tour separate is imperitive: making players 
choose between mixed and open would be damaging to both mixed ultimate and 
the progress of womens ultimate in this country. It would also push the team 
numbers in the open division higher still. The efforts of Nancy Stebbing and 
Co. should not be dismissed and those that wish to play in both divisions 
will just have to appreciate their hectic Ultimate Calender.

The Uk is one of the few nations that play indoors, the US play outdoor all 
year round so it seems strange that here in the UK we allocate 5 months of 
the Ultimate calender to it. A simple solution to the saturation of the 
Outdoor calender would be to increase the length of the season as their is 
no real reason why we can't play all year round. Starting the Tour in March( 
or even February) would open up the ultimate calender so that the tour 
didn't dominate the season. It would also encourage more students to play 
outdoors as there would be more outdoor non-tour events during term time. 
This may demand a small sacrifice to the shmindoor season but as many will 
agree, it shouldn't hold back the growth of ultimate in the country.

May i also suggest that to allow easier scheduling of large tour tournaments 
that we aim to hold them over bank holiday weekends and make them a three 
day event?

Chris Berry (Un Poco Loco)
....waiting to be beaten down from all angels by smindoor lovers 
everywhere!!!


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The Ultimate Tour

A proposal / suggestion / idea... whatever you want to call it (cr@p if you
like), for discussion. Suggestions, criticisms, etc welcomed and apologies
if I don't make any sense but I wrote it in a bit of a hurry.

Basically...
Guessing at 40+ teams entering the tour regularly split it into two
divisions, with 20 teams in Division 1 and 20-32 in Division 2.
Promotion/Relegation between the two divisions at each event - a substantial
number to avoid having the same team go up and then straight back down (such
as Zurich Premiership in rugby union... though that could change this year)
and to keep the importance of the games at the top of Div2 / bottom of Div1.
I would suggest 4 teams are promoted/relegated after each event.
There should still be four tours, each split into the two divisions, with
events to be held on the same weekends at different venues, unless a TD has
a venue big enough for both divisions and wants to organise both!

The current points system could continue but be adapted for the two division
format such that every team gets an overall final ranking from 1 to 40+ so
every team has a sense of how well they are doing relative to clapham or
whoever

Qualification for Nationals based on this final ranking (as well as the next
years initial divisions). Nationals could also then have a second division
as well.

New teams start at the bottom and work way up - avoiding the creation of
telephone teams designed to go straight to the top! Emphasis should also be
put on geo teams, giving them benefits as has been done in the past... or
even (*controversial bit*) make Division 1 only open to geo teams - though
maybe have this as something to work towards over a couple of seasons!

As for how you initially split it, it seems logical to use the final tour
positions from the previous year. I wouldn't suggest splitting until next
year as a lot would need to be discussed and arranged before it were to
happen.

Main problems... (1) need more venues and TDs -the smaller venues are easier
to find, but TDs are always difficult to find because it takes a lot of time
and effort. (2) Lower teams aren't going to get that chance to see the top
teams... Wayne's (I think?) point is true to some extent that those fighting
it out for promotion will see top teams at later events and those at the
lower end of division2 will be able to see those at the top of their
division. 

Overall, I think 2 divisions is going to be the only way forward, along with
an emphasis on geo teams. Ben's suggestion of a regional split would be
great but I think that there is likely to be difficulty balancing the
regions at the moment (just look at the debates over indoors), but as a
long-term goal it has great potential. And also, I feel the mixed tour
should definitely be kept separate... we need to continue to raise it's
profile after Nancy et all's good work and encourage more teams to view it
as a competitive event, not just as a distant relative of the tour.

Anyway I think that'll do for now and cheers for reading this far and hope
it makes senses, see you all at tour 1.

Paul

Red, Jesters




-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Statham
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Sent: 09/04/02 14:38
Subject: Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments

Me, tell you?  I wouldn't presume to tell you how to do your job!

I can't TELL you how to sort this out, I've offered some suggestions
(one of
which proved slightly contraversial!) and I hope they could at least be
of some
use to those who actually do make the decisions (if they read them).

Why not restrict the number of teams entering the Tour in the future?
Decide
the teams who qualify through Nationals and a qualifying tournament, at
the
beginning or end of a season.  This at least would then reduce the level
of
uncertainty for lower teams about whether or not they'll be able to
enter events
later in the year or if they'll be excluded.

I like the Tour, I like the fact that you can get a good idea about
where your
team lies on a National standing, so I think that if the main Tour is
reduced
then what comes underneath it should be equivalent to it.  i.e. a
National
competition that anyone can enter, then at the end of the year you can
say to
yourselves, yeah we went up a few places this year, or boo we must try
harder to
rise in the rankings.  Also, the potential to qualify for the main Tour
will be
a big incentive to middler order teams who currently play their socks
off on the
Tour and toil to 18th/19th/20th place etc.  So, whilst it's satisfying
to
improve your seeding for the next tournament the potential to get
'Promoted',
will be a real cherry.

It won't be easy to organise but if 44 open teams are entering
tournaments then
there has to be scope for a 2nd tier.  And I agree that having Clapham
playing
our 2nd team for instance is doing no-one any good.

Si.





"Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net> on 09/04/2002 14:23:11

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Subject:  Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments



Si,

Regarding Geo teams - I love the idea of people playing where they live
- it
works for my team! However I think tightening up geo-regulations would
probably
open a whole new can of worms (do we have to get the maps and dividers
out?)

I note that in the last couple of years most of the top eight teams have
become
'more geo' quite naturally as they have realised the sense in having
local
players who can be relied upon to attend regular training sessions. (I
like to
think that Red showed what could be achieved when a bunch of local
goobers
bothered to train regularly!)

I think strengthening the emphasis on loyalty would actually be the best
way to
encourage locally-based teams (who would want to commit to regularly
travelling
across the country to training for a whole season?)

Back to the Tour issue, Simon, you tell us! How should we resolve the
problem of
lack of capacity for teams (divisionalised or not)? We haven't yet got a
particular solution in mind yet though I know there suitable people
thinking
about this. I hope this weekend's board meeting produces something.

You seem to see it as if we're intentionally discarding some lower teams
- thats
not fair. I would say that we've had a sudden unexpected increase in
demand
which we hadn't planned for. I still take offense at the implication
that
somehow we don't care about these lower teams though I'm not sure their
presence
in the Tour (as it stands) is necessarily suitable for them or the
competition.
Lets devise a broader range of competitions so that there is something
for
everyone.

Examples (for sake of argument) :-

Top 16 division - rostering compulsory, attendance of all events
compulsory,
uniforms compulsory

Lower x division - unrostered teams allowed, missing an event allowed,
dropping
worst result allowed

As the number of teams increases we can expand the number of divisions
keeping
the bottom one as a catch-all for those new teams who want to get a foot
in the
door. I'm sure those responsible can devise a workable
promotion/releagation
system.


Alternatively we could look at regionalisation at the lower level. I
like the
idea of this because it reduces the amount of travelling to tournaments
- it
would certainly encourage local teams.

What about leagues? Another idea. Travel to a Saturday fixture to play a
few of
matches, socialise with the locals, go home and enjoy Sunday at home
with
kids/friends/family, don't turn up to work on Monday morning feeling
like a
zombie.

I don't mean these to be a particularly concrete suggestions (I'm not
the DOC!)
just debate-fodder.

Ben


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Simon Statham" <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:16:35 +0100

>A fair point, I would also like to see a much stronger emphasis on
geo-teams.
>You should play where you live.  We have come up against it quite a bit
in the
>past, having good players come to our practices but then play for other
teams
in
>tournaments.  It's no bloody wonder we struggle to get better year by
year,
when
>we have to start all our players from scratch.  Should be better this
year,
have
>managed to recruit some people who have actually played for a few years
before!
>
>But anyway, I don't know how this got turned around to a debate on Tour
vs
Mixed
>Tour.  I wanted to hear about solutions to potentially relegating some
teams
>from the Tour because some venues can host more teams than others.  I
was
>frustrated by the attitude that lower teams can be just excluded
because they
>don't matter (although looking at the teams in T1 I think our 2nd team
should
be
>ok, but the point still stands).
>
>What proposals to this problem, or simply 2 division proposals for
whatever
>reason, have been considered before?  Do my suggestions earlier offer
anything
>towards making it happen or have they been thought of before and
discounted for
>what ever valid reason.
>
>We (frisbee players) appreciate the hard work you put in to the game,
and that
>changes have happened and are in the process of happening.  But I think
you'll
>agree that things aren't there yet!
>
>I'd just like to know that them in charge are listening!
>
>Si
>(Slipdisc)
>
>
>
>
>"Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net> on 09/04/2002 13:08:49
>
>Please respond to ben@ravilious.net
>
>To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>cc:    (bcc: Simon Statham/Transportation/BCC)
>
>
>Subject:  Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments
>
>
>
>
>
>I think its fair to same that at times there *have* been instances of
teams
>'cobbled together' but better to have a cobbled together team attending
>international clubs tournaments than no team at all. Hopefully more
teams
>fighting for places in the future will mean this becomes a thing of the
past.
>Lets recruit even more players so that every UK slot is taken.
>
>My take on this is that in fact the problem we have in the UK is with
player
>loyalty (to their teams) and the existance of a stockmarket mentality
when it
>comes to getting players for one's own team.
>
>All of this is completely within the rules as they stand so it is a
matter for
>UK Ultimate to tighten them up if its appropriate. We shall be looking
at this
>soon (If nothing else, this will prevent the usual rumours, grumbles
and
>poachings which we get each time an international clubs event is on the
horizon
>- something I can do without thanks!)
>
>Back to the original point about running different divisions at the
same time,
>this is not something I want to see happen as it reduces choice for
teams and
>players. One of the main points of my 'manifesto' (if you can call a
paragraph
a
>manifesto!) was that we should encourage choice of events for teams,
indeed
this
>is enshrined in the constitution of UK Ultimate (written by er.... me!)
>
>If teams are using the mixed division to get to international events
'by any
>means' then the answer lies with improving and enforcing player loyalty
to
their
>mixed team rather than removing the choice between divisions.
>
>If one division suffers because of another then at least you can say
players
>were offered the choice. In such a situation UK Ultimate needs to be
positively
>encouraging the ailing division rather than forcing people into it.
>
>Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've
been
>lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself.
However, as
>individual players we must recognise that doing this should be on the
basis of
>long-term commitment to a team. If we have this attitude then we will
end up
>with more committed teams and therefore more *individual* players
getting the
>chance to attend. Heck if you're not going to Hawaii go to
>Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you will still have a good
time and
>you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your roster for this!!!
>
>Are UK players ready to accept the idea of tighter and more longer-term
>definitions of what constitutes a team?
>
>Something else for you to discuss......
>
>Ben
>
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: james.hewitson@uk.zurich.com
>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:26:38 +0100
>
>>
>>Si,
>>
>>>> Why don't we make people have to choose, at least then
>>>> the teams who represent Britain at Worlds are established Mixed
teams
>>rather
>>>> than ones cobbled together in the season before.
>>
>>GB Mixed Teams in Recent Tournaments:
>>WUCC 99 = Blue Arse Flies, Mild Mannered Janitors (the "original"
mixed
>>team, Gael Force
>>WFDF 00 = GB ("Largely" made up of Chevron and Blue Arse Flies
players)
>>EUCC 01 = Blue Arse Flies, Strange Blue
>>WUCC 02 = Blue Arse Flies, Chevron
>>... think I'm spotting a trend here
>>
>>All these teams have proved their commitment to Mixed ultimate and
it's
>>development over the last few seasons and  the squad BAF take to
Hawaii
>>will be the strongest BAF Mixed squad yet assembled for a major
>>tournament... Hardly "cobbled" together at the last minute??? The Open
Tour
>>provides a perfect training ground for Mixed teams in the build-up to
major
>>tournaments and gives us the opportunity to play against quality
opposition
>>week in, week out whether at an Open or Mixed event. To marginalise
the
>>Mixed Tour by making it a "sideshow" to the Open Tour would only serve
to
>>weaken the Mixed teams we send to major tournaments rather than
improve
>>them.
>>
>>BAF are committed to providing the opportunity to compete in all
>>(non-junior) variations of the sport (Open, Mixed and Womens) as
proved by
>>sending two teams to the vast majority of both the Open & Mixed Tours
last
>>season, a large number of indoor tournaments and all of the major
womens
>>tournaments. To force players to have to make a decision between Open
v
>>Mixed v Womens is only taking the sport backwards...
>>
>>Balti
>>BAF 34
>>
>>
>>
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Chris,

Many teams practice outdoors all year round. Certainly the Winter Leagues in 
London and elsewhere, plus the Savage 7s in Crystal Palace last December 
would tend to support extending the outdoor season.

The obvious problem of weather, bad light, hardened surfaces and wind 
conditions that can make the game pretty ugly are worth considering 
carefully however. I wouldn't like to play on any more pitches resembling 
Towcester again in any season.

David Eastman, Hammerage

(I'll ignore the anti-Indoor nonsense as thats the Clapham Boys speciality.)




>From: "Chris Berry" <chris_berry69@hotmail.com>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Why not shorten the indoor season?
>Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 14:33:38
>
>Dear All,
>
>After following the interesting discussion on tour divisions, mixed events
>and saturation of the calender i would like to throw in some suggestions.
>
>Firstly, i believe that separating the Tour into two divsions should be
>avoided in principle. I can remember when i first started what a thrill it
>was watching and learning from the best teams in the country - it is a
>valuable part of the tournament experience for those that are new to the
>game. As i say, i disaggree in principle but am not blind to the
>impracticalities of hosting a 40+ tournament and don't have any better
>solutions than those suggested. Onlt that we perhaps could use a 'winter
>league' style qualification before the outdoor season.
>
>Keeping the Tour and Mixed tour separate is imperitive: making players
>choose between mixed and open would be damaging to both mixed ultimate and
>the progress of womens ultimate in this country. It would also push the 
>team
>numbers in the open division higher still. The efforts of Nancy Stebbing 
>and
>Co. should not be dismissed and those that wish to play in both divisions
>will just have to appreciate their hectic Ultimate Calender.
>
>The Uk is one of the few nations that play indoors, the US play outdoor all
>year round so it seems strange that here in the UK we allocate 5 months of
>the Ultimate calender to it. A simple solution to the saturation of the
>Outdoor calender would be to increase the length of the season as their is
>no real reason why we can't play all year round. Starting the Tour in 
>March(
>or even February) would open up the ultimate calender so that the tour
>didn't dominate the season. It would also encourage more students to play
>outdoors as there would be more outdoor non-tour events during term time.
>This may demand a small sacrifice to the shmindoor season but as many will
>agree, it shouldn't hold back the growth of ultimate in the country.
>
>May i also suggest that to allow easier scheduling of large tour 
>tournaments
>that we aim to hold them over bank holiday weekends and make them a three
>day event?
>
>Chris Berry (Un Poco Loco)
>....waiting to be beaten down from all angels by smindoor lovers
>everywhere!!!
>
>
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>was Always."
>
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Along the lines of a central database for 'frisbee-friendly' venues, is
there an information pack available through UKU for prospective TDs? 

Also, would a 'UKU stamp of approval' or a direct relationship with UKU help
find/keep venues? Specific individuals would not need to forge or maintain
relations, more or less putting them 'in charge' (whether they want it or
not) of the venue, simply because they are identified with it. (does that
make sense?) I;m trying to say that venue managers will view a successful
and problem-free tournament as a feature of Ultimate, rather than as a
by-product of a good relationship with a particular person. Thus UKU could
approach further venues with positive recommendations from other venue
managers. 

A lot currently relies on the efforts of individuals and, more importantly,
the initiative of individuals. The support of UKU will prove to be very
important in the further growth of Ultimate in Britain, even if it's just
endorsements. From there we'll get strategies, demonstration days, organised
trips into schools and a partridge in a pear tree. 

Hedge
(YBK/Rats of NIMH)

ps: I particularly liked the idea of the demonstration game at Glastonbury
last year

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Sorry to al those who aren't called Del Smart.
Del bit late but here's our web address:
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The new circuit is enormous and very very good.
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It is on - we just don't know when.  Either soon - the end of June - or at 
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Probably already been said in so many words by someone, but my thoughts =
on the women's-alongside-open situation...

I think that it's a pretty lame idea having a women's tour alonside the =
biggest open tour. I can't make it to Bristol, but if I could, I would =
want to play for the open team and know several women who feel the same. =
More challenging experience, more competition, all adds up to better =
women players and so better womens tournaments at seperate times. More =
importantly, by having a women's tour alongside tour 1, it encourages =
seperation of the sport into men's and women's. Isn't one of the BEST =
things about ultimate the fact that men and women are EQUAL? I think so. =
It's one of the few sports where gender is irrelevant. =20
Some of the best players on some teams are women and want to play at the =
best level they can, that being Open Tour. There are plenty of other =
weekends where an Open Women's Tour could be arranged surely? Why  force =
women to make decisions between the two?
I fully support the mixed events as well, and these should definately be =
kept seperate too.

Hussey
FlyTNT/Birds In Flyght/Flyghtclub


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Samuel Rey" <reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:51 PM
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> I read an email on Britdisc (maybe 6 weeks ago), regarding the number =
of
> teams entering each event over the past few years, and although it has
> steadily grown (big up! to all those people who promote and are =
proactive to
> newcomers), the number of teams tends to drop as the year =
progresses... last
> years Nationals being relatively small.
>=20
> As a pro-advocate of some type of 2 division structure, I think it =
would be
> great if the Ultimate Premier Tour events were restricted to <16 to =
24>
> teams, leaving anything between 16 and 32 at a 2nd Division or =
UKUltimate
> Tour Events (when there is 40 in the second division, it will be the =
right
> time to consider a 3rd).  But i dont think it should be this year =
(just my
> opinion).  Next year would be much better advised, time for discussion =
and
> planning will be available, rather than rushing headlong into =
something many
> are unconvinced about.
>=20
> Lets see this done well... Hell, we might even win a second Div =
event...
>=20
> And now
> Women... I have to say that after the successes of Womens Indoor =
Ultimate
> this past few months, I was saddened to hear that few were willing to =
enter
> Bristol.  I wonder if the problem is the same as with Students =
generally...
> there seems to be some complacancy in introducing students to =
Outdoors...
> I'm not pulling anyone down, but considering that we have just had the
> calmest Spring period in living (student) history, I'm confused (not
> unusual).
>=20
> Last
> Thanks to the chap who scanned that Telegraph Article in...  I'll go =
and
> check it out now.
>=20
> See you all at TOUR ONE !!!
>=20
> s
> nottingham ultimate
> FlyghtClub
> Inbred
> anyone who'll have me...
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Sam
>=20
> 914 6254
> reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk
>=20
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someone, but my=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I think that it's a pretty lame idea having a =
women's tour=20
alonside the biggest open&nbsp;tour. I can't make it to Bristol, but if =
I could,=20
I would want to play for the open team and know several women who feel =
the same.=20
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women=20
players and so better womens tournaments at seperate times. More =
importantly, by=20
having a women's tour alongside tour 1, it encourages seperation of the =
sport=20
into men's and women's. Isn't one of the <STRONG>BEST</STRONG> things =
about=20
ultimate the fact that men and women are EQUAL? I think so. It's one of =
the few=20
sports where gender is irrelevant.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Some of the best players on some teams are women and =
want to=20
play at the best level they can, that being Open Tour. There =
are&nbsp;plenty of=20
other weekends where an Open Women's Tour could be arranged surely? =
Why&nbsp;=20
force women to make decisions between the two?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I fully support the mixed events as well, and these =
should=20
definately be kept seperate too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hussey</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>FlyTNT/Birds In Flyght/Flyghtclub</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>From: "Samuel Rey" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk"><FONT=20
size=3D2>reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>To: &lt;</FONT><A=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Cc: &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:student-ultimate@egroups.com"><FONT=20
size=3D2>student-ultimate@egroups.com</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:51 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Subject: TOUR &amp; Relegation</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2>&gt; I read an email =
on Britdisc=20
(maybe 6 weeks ago), regarding the number of<BR>&gt; teams entering each =
event=20
over the past few years, and although it has<BR>&gt; steadily grown (big =
up! to=20
all those people who promote and are proactive to<BR>&gt; newcomers), =
the number=20
of teams tends to drop as the year progresses... last<BR>&gt; years =
Nationals=20
being relatively small.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; As a pro-advocate of some type =
of 2=20
division structure, I think it would be<BR>&gt; great if the Ultimate =
Premier=20
Tour events were restricted to &lt;16 to 24&gt;<BR>&gt; teams, leaving =
anything=20
between 16 and 32 at a 2nd Division or UKUltimate<BR>&gt; Tour Events =
(when=20
there is 40 in the second division, it will be the right<BR>&gt; time to =

consider a 3rd).&nbsp; But i dont think it should be this year (just =
my<BR>&gt;=20
opinion).&nbsp; Next year would be much better advised, time for =
discussion=20
and<BR>&gt; planning will be available, rather than rushing headlong =
into=20
something many<BR>&gt; are unconvinced about.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Lets see =
this=20
done well... Hell, we might even win a second Div event...<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt; And=20
now<BR>&gt; Women... I have to say that after the successes of Womens =
Indoor=20
Ultimate<BR>&gt; this past few months, I was saddened to hear that few =
were=20
willing to enter<BR>&gt; Bristol.&nbsp; I wonder if the problem is the =
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Thanks to Happy Photoshoppers Adam Harras and Philip Harvey:-

http://www.ukultimate.com/press/telegraph.jpg

Ben
 

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Dear All,

Here are the rules for this years Tour.

http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/tour2002rules.htm

Apparently there were some hyperlinks originally - sorry but I haven't got
time to reproduce these - hope it makes sense.

Please refer to Si Weeks, Director of Competitions (07976 216135) or Chris
Hughes (cjhughes@talk21.com) if you have any queries about these - I can't
answer rules-related questions.

Ben

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Shorten the Indoor Season, eh?

Or, from the other perspective: lengthen the outdoor tournament season.

If the way the weather has been this recent autumn/winter/spring is
going to be typical of future years, this seems a reasonable suggestion.

Here's the catch - many of our current tournament venues are used for
football or rugby and, to a lesser extent, hockey.

How do we get these venues when they've been bulk-booked from early
October to late April for football ?

If anyone has any clever ideas for this, please let me know!
(BTW, I've already enquired of a couple of venues about availability in
April 2003, and the response has been "we're probably holding football
matches, if the weather allows")

Wayne





Tue, 9 Apr 2002, by Chris Berry <mailto:chris_berry69@hotmail.com>;
 Subject: Why not shorten the indoor season?
>Dear All,
>
>After following the interesting discussion on tour divisions, mixed events 
>and saturation of the calender i would like to throw in some suggestions.
>
>Firstly, i believe that separating the Tour into two divsions should be 
>avoided in principle. I can remember when i first started what a thrill it 
>was watching and learning from the best teams in the country - it is a 
>valuable part of the tournament experience for those that are new to the 
>game. As i say, i disaggree in principle but am not blind to the 
>impracticalities of hosting a 40+ tournament and don't have any better 
>solutions than those suggested. Onlt that we perhaps could use a 'winter 
>league' style qualification before the outdoor season.
>
>Keeping the Tour and Mixed tour separate is imperitive: making players 
>choose between mixed and open would be damaging to both mixed ultimate and 
>the progress of womens ultimate in this country. It would also push the team 
>numbers in the open division higher still. The efforts of Nancy Stebbing and 
>Co. should not be dismissed and those that wish to play in both divisions 
>will just have to appreciate their hectic Ultimate Calender.
>
>The Uk is one of the few nations that play indoors, the US play outdoor all 
>year round so it seems strange that here in the UK we allocate 5 months of 
>the Ultimate calender to it. A simple solution to the saturation of the 
>Outdoor calender would be to increase the length of the season as their is 
>no real reason why we can't play all year round. Starting the Tour in March( 
>or even February) would open up the ultimate calender so that the tour 
>didn't dominate the season. It would also encourage more students to play 
>outdoors as there would be more outdoor non-tour events during term time. 
>This may demand a small sacrifice to the shmindoor season but as many will 
>agree, it shouldn't hold back the growth of ultimate in the country.
>
>May i also suggest that to allow easier scheduling of large tour tournaments 
>that we aim to hold them over bank holiday weekends and make them a three 
>day event?
>
>Chris Berry (Un Poco Loco)
>....waiting to be beaten down from all angels by smindoor lovers 
>everywhere!!!
>
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>Ok, I have a few suggestions.  I think at least one of them will be unpopular!

:)

IMnsHO:

1. Running the Open and Mixed Tours on the same weekends won't work. Too
many arguments that I could name... other people will probably divulge
in full. BUT, Give it a few more years and this might indeed grow wings
and fly.

2. Think this through a little more... picture specifics (even though
you're trying to come up with a general concept!)...
You're currently suggesting two independent tiers of the Tour, with
interaction (some kind of promotion/relegation/qualification event) at
the beginning or end of the season. It's a fine idea, but work out what
the flaws with this are, and how to fix them, too...

>3.  In conjuction with 2., have a database of Frisbee 'friendly' tournament
>venues, which can be approached centrally by UK Ultimate rather than by
>individuals who want to run a tournament (as these are often from the top teams,
>so would not always be able to be a TD).

I can't argue with that!

Wayne

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>Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've 
> >been lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself. 
> >However, as individual players we must recognise that doing this should 
> >be on the basis of long-term commitment to a team. If we have this
>attitude then we will end up with more committed teams and therefore more 
> >*individual* players getting the chance to attend. Heck if you're not 
> >going to Hawaii go to Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you will 
> >still have a good time and you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your 
> >roster for this!!!

Ben,
    I have to agree with you on the player loyalty issue. I've played for 
BAF for about 5 years now, through my university career in Scotland. I think 
player loyalty is hard as Ultimate comes from a student base, and as such a 
lot of younger (no offense to 'older' players) players move around the 
country a lot as they go to uni and the struggle to find a job. I may well 
have this wrong but for geo teams aren't you supposed to live nearer them 
than any other team? These two things just don't add  up. If I am right 
(doubtful) on the geo team thing, can't we have some kind of waver for 
players who have been at the club for a decent length of time? Sorry if I've 
got my facts wrong but I can't check them at the moment.

Le Boeuf
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, KD001(P.M.KETT) wrote:
> Ben's suggestion of a regional split would be
> great but I think that there is likely to be difficulty balancing the
> regions at the moment (just look at the debates over indoors), but as a
> long-term goal it has great potential. 
I think the idea of regionalisation of ultimate is a good
one.  The tour was set up to raise the level of the top
teams in the uk and has done a god job of this.  However
having tried to start a couple of teams (running out of
hereford) in the past, it is a large jump to bring teams
into national events partically the tour.  [I watch the
student teams in the south hold their breath over whether
they would have to bring teams up to st. andrews for student
nationals, and this is a problem faced by scotish teams who
trek south each year] I think the developement of more local
(to a region) events perhaps taking up just one day makes it
easier to make this transition.

Borrowing from the experience of oxford city korftball they
found that they were taking developement teams all over the
country, to play in the second division in what were ofter
quite low quality games.  There response was to say that
instead of carting a team up to leeds they developed a local
oxfordshire league - pushed for new recruits through peoples
work and incorporarted the student teams and now run a
reasombly high level 6-8 team league - lots of games, easy
to get people involved, great for pulling people through
into the oxford team which competes in the national 1st
division.  

If we could do that in the local region - say get hold of
pitch space for 1 day and get teams out from the local
region it's alot easier to get things organised, there is
let commitment required for the TDs and for the players
involed.  National tournaments become the highlights of the
year (be that open tour or a friendly scottish beach
tournaments) rather than the main stay.  This is done
already and not just by the more social teams - the london
winter league was a great example of teams from the south
east coming together and improving - it provided a focus for
the teams over winter and I think they all have come out
stronger.  I know that BAF looked at doing something similar
the end of last summer with a mini events hosting just 6
teams.  

I'm looking at getting a small one day tournament going in
hereford in the beginning of september this year.  Each year
the town holds the annual 'festival of the winds' with kite
flyers coming in from all over the country.  I'm trying to
talk them into allowing me to host a 6 or 8 team mini
tournament to coincide with the same event.  I'm hoping to
use this as a way to resurect the hereford hoofers (dorian?,
richard? taz? are you still in the area?) but if there are
teams in the rest of the region (south wales or
midlands or beyond) that want to take part let me know.  

To develope ultimate and bring people into the sport we need
venues to take them.  I think one of the biggest restriction
on growth of the sport in this country is providing venues
and events for people to play in, which is partly why
universities are responsible for most of our current crop of
players.  We've put together a spring league in oxford which
gets student teams here playing each other (10 teams,
regular games from jan to may and we have over 120 players
on those books).  Maybe it is easier (certainly from my
point of view) to do this on a smaller scale.  My ideal
would be to get a 4 division league running in oxford, but
that ain't going to happen this year or the next.  But more
regional venues might be part of an answer.

ok my tu'pence just ran out (it did long ago but I hope
you weren't counting),

ben
mootones, hoofers, whatever

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Jon,

If you ask me, travelling all that way to play with your chosen team is
crazy but thats your choice! If we're talking about doing something for the
good of the sport it would be much more helpful if you brought your
experience (and loyalty) to a local team near you. I appreciate that that is
easier said than done though.

I also despair at the number of university 'old boys' teams which spring up
each year. I can understand wanting to stay in contact with uni friends and
maybe playing a few fun tournaments together for a laugh but there's no way
these teams are going to achieve anything serious or long-term unless you
live near each other. Now that we have contact details for everyone I very
much want to encourage graduates to go find (or start) a local team they can
contribute to. This will be better for them in the long run (you get to play
regularly!) and help strengthen of regionally-based teams.

I believe the geo rules for the Tour simply say that all players must live
within a 75 mile radius of somewhere - correct me if I'm wrong - its never
been an issue for my team!

Enough from me now I think.

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Good" <funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com>
To: <ben@ravilious.net>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 09 April 2002 22:30
Subject: Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments


> >Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've
> > >been lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself.
> > >However, as individual players we must recognise that doing this should
> > >be on the basis of long-term commitment to a team. If we have this
> >attitude then we will end up with more committed teams and therefore more
> > >*individual* players getting the chance to attend. Heck if you're not
> > >going to Hawaii go to Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you
will
> > >still have a good time and you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your
> > >roster for this!!!
>
> Ben,
>     I have to agree with you on the player loyalty issue. I've played for
> BAF for about 5 years now, through my university career in Scotland. I
think
> player loyalty is hard as Ultimate comes from a student base, and as such
a
> lot of younger (no offense to 'older' players) players move around the
> country a lot as they go to uni and the struggle to find a job. I may well
> have this wrong but for geo teams aren't you supposed to live nearer them
> than any other team? These two things just don't add  up. If I am right
> (doubtful) on the geo team thing, can't we have some kind of waver for
> players who have been at the club for a decent length of time? Sorry if
I've
> got my facts wrong but I can't check them at the moment.
>
> Le Boeuf
> #44
>
>
>
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Just a couple of points before I go to bed...

1) IMHO, "city leagues" have real potential to expand the player base beyond
the tournament-hardened crowd we have now. Your korfball analogy is right on
the money.

The trick is achieving a critical mass of teams/players within one city
(though to me, three teams is critical mass! Double round-robin. Then the
following year you can aim for four. Build it and they will come).

You need a good number of experienced players to form the core of the
league. So that pretty much counts out summer weekends (when most will want
to play at tournaments - or even have a weekend off when there's no
tournament).

Making it weeknights means that you can't cast the net too wide,
geographically speaking - people have to be able to get to the fields, play
the game, hit the pub, and get home in time to get up for work again the
next day.

We're lucky enough to have sufficient players in London to make this work
with Summer League - games are competitive, and most players can stay out
until closing time and still get home.

Maybe Oxford could manage it. Perhaps Bristol. Edinburgh?

OTOH, London's Winter League worked at weekends because of Roger's
commitment to the idea, because teams wanted to play outdoors all year
round, and because there was nothing else going on ;-)  (Spoken like a true
Clapham player.) Not the easiest time of year to introduce new players to
the game though.


2) If you're suggesting regionalising the Tour, that would defeat much of
the object of the excersise - if the top teams ended up in different regions
they would not get the high level play they need to remain competitive
internationally.


3) I've always thought that "fun tournament" date clashes are a good thing,
as long as the tournaments aren't both at the same end of the country. That
way, you get "regionalisation" without any extra effort, more tournaments
squashed into the year, more space for new teams to come and play (and
possibly without getting crushed by 80% of the opposition). How does not
having all the "top teams" at a tournament make it any less fun?


4) Beware of one-day tournaments if dragging teams in from far and wide -
currently, much of the appeal of Ultimate to new players is the social/party
side of things, which is seriously undermined if you're having to spend
Saturday night getting home. We had that with the British Ultimate League
back in the early eighties - didn't work all that great.


Ramble mode off. :-)


Paul

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Hussey,

>More importantly, by having a women's tour alongside tour 1, it >encourages 
>seperation of the sport into men's and women's.

There are only 4 womens teams in the womens tour, I can't believe thats all 
the women we have. Women will still play for open teams this weekend. In 
fact some might play in the open and the womens events if they can, its been 
done in the past.

>Isn't one of the BEST things about ultimate the fact that men and >women 
>are EQUAL? I think so. It's one of the few sports where gender >is 
>irrelevant.

Don't even get me started. Just read that again and take a deep breath. Now 
tell me why Open champions don't have women on the team? I'm not saying our 
women are bad, we've got some of the best women in the world but 'gender is 
irrelevant'....

>There are plenty of other weekends where an Open Women's Tour could be 
> >arranged surely?

Isn't that what happens with womens indoors and outdoors? Ok you could have 
more events instead of going straight to Nationals but at the moment having 
a womens tour held alongside the open tour is a good compromise until there 
is a demand for more women's events.

>I fully support the mixed events as well, and these should definately >be 
>kept seperate too.

Can't argue with that.

Adam
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Speaking for myself and not for my team

It's a fair point about geo teams and in an ideal world everyone would play 
with the team they are nearest to geographically.

But I play ultimate for enjoyment.  Now that doesn't mean that I don't want 
to improve my play or play for a good team, but it does meant that i want to 
play for a team with my mates.

The arguement about never improving unless you live together isn't strictly 
true.  It just depends how commited you are to playing.  Poco Loco have had 
quite a number of practices this winter and have definatly improved as a 
result. We have players based in London, Cardiff, Bristol, Sheffield, Leeds 
and Liverpool.

Because a lot of the ultimate community are " young professionals " the 
chances are we are going to move around the country a lot and we'd be 
switching teams constantly.

It WOULD be easier to play with our local teams but out of choice we choose 
to play with people we get along with ( Apart from Coy of course, he's just 
there for historical reasons :-).  It's a pain in the arse but at the end of 
the day surely it should be up to the individual.

How many Clapham players would play for Red if they happened to move to 
Leicester ?

Not a criticism of Ben but just being realistic.

Rob ( Un Poco Loco )

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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mathew Edwards=20
To: adam batchelor=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:00 PM


I am writing to confirm the following details for anyone who does not =
have them already.

DIRECTIONS FOR THE SPORTS GROUND - From North, South, East or West: M5 - =
exit at Jct 19. Follow A369 towards Bristol for approximately 4 miles on =
a windy road through small villages until you see a narrow turning on =
the right hand side signed posted for Clifton Sports Ground. (Watch out =
as this turning can creep up on you - if you get to the traffic lights, =
you have gone too far! - this does not include the pedestrian crossing =
lights at the George Inn at Abbots Leigh Village).=20

CAMPSITE - Instead of turning into the sports ground you continue up to =
the traffic lights and turn right. 350 yards on the right hand side you =
will see a gate. This is the entrance to the camping area. Please pitch =
your tents in the bottom right hand side of the field. The campsite is =
available from Friday evening, with access to a bar that is open untill =
2300hrs.=20

Anyone that is thinking about bringing a dog, please dont as they dont =
want any on site. Although sheep and cows are fine.

A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff is available all day =
Saturday and Sunday as well as Saturday evening, followed by a party and =
a bar with a late licence of 0100hrs.

To contact us over the weekend see below for details

Adam 0976 440 218

Matt 0781 138 2084

If your after a B&B see below again=20

=20

FARLE VILLA                                                            =
T:0117 9420809 T:07967 323 045

45 Sydenham Hill Bristol=20

EMMAUS HOUSE                                                      T:0117 =
907 9950 F:0117 907 9952

Clifton Hill Clifton Bristol=20

DOWNS VIEW GUEST HOUSE                                 T:0117 973 7046 =
F:0117 973 8169

38 Upper Belgrave Road Clifton Bristol

CAMDEN HOTEL                                                      T:0117 =
923 1062

129 Coronation Road Southville Bristol

TRICOMO HOUSE                                                     T:0117 =
9248082

183 Cheltenham Road Bristol

TYNDALLS PARK HOTEL                                       T:0117 9735407 =
T:0468 055717=20

4 Tyndalls Park Road Clifton Bristol

MAISON GEORGE                                                      =
T:0117 963 9416 F:0117 953 5760

10 Greville Road Southville Bristol

NASEBY HOUSE HOTEL                                          T:0117 973 =
7859 T:0117 908 0011=20

105 Pembroke Road Clifton Bristol

WESTFIELD HOTEL                                                  T:0117 =
9626119

37 Stoke Hill Sneyd Park Bristol

ORCHARD END                                                         =
T:01454 632969 F:01454 633594

New Passage Road Pilning Near Bristol

ARCHES HOTEL                                                        =
T:0117 924 7398132 F:0117 924 7398

Cotham Brow Cotham Bristol

ROSEBERY HOUSE                                                   T:0117 =
914 9508 T:0777 187 1251 F:0117 914 9508

14 Camden Terrace Clifton Bristol

OAKFIELD HOTEL                                                    T:0117 =
973 5556 T:0117 973 3643=20

52-54 Oakfield Road Clifton Bristol

SUNDERLAND GUEST HOUSE T:0117 973 7249

4 Sunderland Place Off St Paul's Road Clifton, Bristol

CUMBERLAND GUEST HOUSE                                T:0117 966 0810 =
F:0117 966 0810

6 Clift House Road Ashton Bristol

WESTBOURNE HOTEL                                             T:0117 973 =
4214 F:0117 974 3552

40-44 St Pauls Road Clifton Bristol

TURVILLE COUNTRY ACCOMMODATION                       T:01454 633304

Northwick Road Pilning South Gloucestershire=20

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cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff is available all day =
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and Sunday as well as Saturday evening, followed by a party and a bar =
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: =
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details</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: =
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<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">DOWNS VIEW GUEST HOUSE <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 973 7046 F:0117 973 8169<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:address><st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">38=20
Upper Belgrave Road</SPAN></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Clifton</SPAN></st1:City></st1:address><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">CAMDEN</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
HOTEL<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 923 1062<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">129=20
Coronation Road</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
Southville </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">TRICOMO HOUSE <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 9248082<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:address><st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">183=20
Cheltenham Road</SPAN></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:City></st1:address><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">TYNDALLS PARK HOTEL<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 9735407 T:0468 055717 <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:address><st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">4=20
Tyndalls Park Road</SPAN></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Clifton</SPAN></st1:City></st1:address><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">MAISON GEORGE <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 963 9416 F:0117 953 5760<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">10=20
Greville Road</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
Southville </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">NASEBY</SPAN></st1:place><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
HOUSE HOTEL <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 973 7859 T:0117 908 0011 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:address><st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">105=20
Pembroke Road</SPAN></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Clifton</SPAN></st1:City></st1:address><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">WESTFIELD</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
HOTEL <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

</SPAN>T:0117 9626119<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">37=20
Stoke </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceType><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Hill</SPAN></st1:PlaceType><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:PlaceName><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Sneyd</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:PlaceType><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Park</SPAN></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">ORCHARD END <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:01454 632969 F:01454 633594<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">New=20
</SPAN><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Passage=20
Road</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
Pilning Near </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">ARCHES HOTEL<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">Cotham Brow Cotham =
Bristol<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">ROSEBERY HOUSE <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 914 9508 T:0777 187 1251 F:0117 914=20
9508<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">14=20
</SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Camden</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
Terrace </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Clifton</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">OAKFIELD HOTEL <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 973 5556 T:0117 973 3643 <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
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I would warn against the idea of imposing too many restrictions on the
make-up of teams. Offer incentives, by all means, for the geo model if
that seems appropriate, but the idea of outlawing telephone teams is
crazy!

I beg to differ with Ben about the inability of 'old boys' (& girls of
couse) teams achieving "anything serious or long-term". The case of STAN
must be considered as counter-evidence to Ben's argument. Formed as a
splinter group of the then national champions, STAN was composed almost
entirely of ex-Bears who chose to play together as they shared a common
style and sense of humour. Despite averaging about one practice per
year, they stayed together for 12 years - yes TWELVE! - and were rarely
outside of the top three teams in the country.

I know times have changed, but the potential still exists - I have
witnessed first hand the very high standard of the top student teams and
many established 'club' teams owe their strength to a series of
graduates from the same institution (NB not quite the same thing as
'cherry picking'). Please note, I am not actively promoting this model,
but using it as an example of how flawed some armchair theorists can
be!

The observation about the mobility of "young professionals" is also an
important factor in this debate ... although I must admit that few would
say that any STAN player was ever "young" and we could never be accused
of being "professional" in any way, shape or form!

Thanks for your time. I'm off to New Zealand, so why should I care? ...
Well I do!

Sam Neilson

PS What was it Mel Gibson said in Braveheart? ...
"You can take away our telephones, but you can never take away our
FREEDOM!"
... forcing the geo model could result in civil war!

>>> "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net> 10/04/2002 08:10:05 >>>
Jon,

If you ask me, travelling all that way to play with your chosen team
is
crazy but thats your choice! If we're talking about doing something for
the
good of the sport it would be much more helpful if you brought your
experience (and loyalty) to a local team near you. I appreciate that
that is
easier said than done though.

I also despair at the number of university 'old boys' teams which
spring up
each year. I can understand wanting to stay in contact with uni friends
and
maybe playing a few fun tournaments together for a laugh but there's no
way
these teams are going to achieve anything serious or long-term unless
you
live near each other. Now that we have contact details for everyone I
very
much want to encourage graduates to go find (or start) a local team
they can
contribute to. This will be better for them in the long run (you get to
play
regularly!) and help strengthen of regionally-based teams.

I believe the geo rules for the Tour simply say that all players must
live
within a 75 mile radius of somewhere - correct me if I'm wrong - its
never
been an issue for my team!

Enough from me now I think.

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Good" <funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com>
To: <ben@ravilious.net>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 09 April 2002 22:30
Subject: Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments


> >Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad
I've
> > >been lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions
myself.
> > >However, as individual players we must recognise that doing this
should
> > >be on the basis of long-term commitment to a team. If we have
this
> >attitude then we will end up with more committed teams and therefore
more
> > >*individual* players getting the chance to attend. Heck if you're
not
> > >going to Hawaii go to Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead -
you
will
> > >still have a good time and you don't need UK Ultimate to approve
your
> > >roster for this!!!
>
> Ben,
>     I have to agree with you on the player loyalty issue. I've played
for
> BAF for about 5 years now, through my university career in Scotland.
I
think
> player loyalty is hard as Ultimate comes from a student base, and as
such
a
> lot of younger (no offense to 'older' players) players move around
the
> country a lot as they go to uni and the struggle to find a job. I may
well
> have this wrong but for geo teams aren't you supposed to live nearer
them
> than any other team? These two things just don't add  up. If I am
right
> (doubtful) on the geo team thing, can't we have some kind of waver
for
> players who have been at the club for a decent length of time? Sorry
if
I've
> got my facts wrong but I can't check them at the moment.
>
> Le Boeuf
> #44
>
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<P><FONT size=3D3>I am writing to confirm the following details for =
anyone who=20
does not have them already.</FONT></P>
<P><?xml:namespace prefix =3D o ns =3D =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"=20
/><o:p><FONT size=3D3><SPAN><STRONG>DIRECTIONS</STRONG> <STRONG>FOR THE =
SPORTS=20
GROUND </STRONG>- From North, South, East or West: M5 &#8211; exit at =
Jct 19. Follow=20
A369 towards </SPAN><?xml:namespace prefix =3D st1 ns =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" =
/><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> for approximately 4 miles on a windy road =
through=20
small villages until you see a narrow turning on the right hand side =
signed=20
posted for Clifton Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep =
up on you=20
&#8211; if you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! &#8211; =
this does not=20
include the pedestrian crossing lights at the=20
</SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">George</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN><st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Inn</SPAN></st1:PlaceName></st1:place><SPAN =

style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> at </SPAN><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Abbots</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN><st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Leigh</SPAN></st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN><st1:PlaceName><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Village</SPAN></st1:PlaceName></st1:place><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">).</SPAN><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">=20
</FONT></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><STRONG>CAMPSITE </STRONG>-</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><STRONG> </STRONG></FONT><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Instead of turning into the sports ground =
you=20
continue up to the traffic lights and turn right. 350 yards on the right =
hand=20
side you will see a gate. This is the entrance to the camping area. =
Please pitch=20
your tents in the bottom right hand side of the field. =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The campsite is available =
from Friday=20
evening, with access to a bar that is open untill 2300hrs. =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyone that is thinking about bringing a =
dog, please=20
dont as they dont want any on site. Although sheep and cows are=20
fine.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: =
'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">A=20
cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff is available all day =
Saturday=20
and Sunday as well as Saturday evening, followed by a party and a bar =
with a=20
late licence of 0100hrs.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: =
'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">To=20
contact us&nbsp;over the weekend see below for =
details</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: =
'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Adam=20
0976 440 218</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: =
'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Matt=20
0781 138 2084</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: =
'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-ansi-language: =
EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">If=20
your after a B&amp;B see below again</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: =
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lang=3DEN-US=20
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size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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12.0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
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Sydenham Hill </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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Hill </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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face=3D"Times New Roman">DOWNS VIEW GUEST HOUSE <SPAN=20
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3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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12.0pt">38=20
Upper Belgrave Road</SPAN></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">CAMDEN</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
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HOTEL<SPAN=20
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2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">129=20
Coronation Road</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
Southville </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:address><st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">183=20
Cheltenham Road</SPAN></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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12.0pt"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman">TYNDALLS PARK HOTEL<SPAN=20
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3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">4=20
Tyndalls Park Road</SPAN></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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Greville Road</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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HOTEL <SPAN=20
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</SPAN>T:0117 9626119<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
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5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:01454 632969 F:01454 633594<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
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</SPAN><st1:Street><st1:address><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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12.0pt">=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
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lang=3DEN-US=20
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5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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Bristol<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN=20
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5">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
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9508<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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12.0pt">=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
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lang=3DEN-US=20
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 973 5556 T:0117 973 3643 <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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face=3D"Times New Roman"><st1:address><st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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12.0pt">52-54=20
Oakfield Road</SPAN></st1:Street><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
</SPAN><st1:City><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Clifton</SPAN></st1:City></st1:address><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">4=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">=20
Off </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">St=20
Paul</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
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12.0pt">'s=20
Road </SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Clifton</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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</SPAN><st1:City><st1:place><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Bristol</SPAN></st1:place></st1:City><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-pagination: none; =
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3">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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12.0pt">=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>T:0117 973 4214 F:0117 974 3552<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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According to www.railtrack.co.uk, the first train from
London arrives at Bristol Temple Meads at 8:52. 

This would make a 9:00 am starting time impossible for
both Hammerage squads and I'm sure others will have
the same issue. 

Is pushing the first game back to 9:30 a possibility?

Thanks,
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Rob,

Fair point about the impracticality of moving teams regularly. (Thought: Perhaps if we all recruited locally then we would get more settled players?)

> How many Clapham players would play for Red if they happened 
> to move to Leicester ?

I'll let the Clapham players answer that question (!) but the way you put it reveals the same old attitude that I'm on about.

Is playing for the very best team you can get on the single most important aim of your playing career Rob? And what makes a team good? Is it simply down to their roster?

Why not ask "How much better could Red be if a Clapham player joined us?" 

Clapham are better than Red due to training and experience not some god-given gift (what have I started?!). I'm asking that if more people with said experience and training were to spread it around then we would have a better sport. Full respect to Clapham (sic!) for doing exactly this by maintaining a second team, running the winter league, etc ,etc

I vaguely remember a rather mediocre Sheffield uni graduates team (who folded not so long ago) who discovered that the addition of an experienced American(?) player could give them the confidence to beat the best team in the country at the time. What does that tell you?

I'm sure this will now decend into farcical Red vs Clapham jibes (Roger? Harvey?) but your somewhat mercenary attitude is very frustrating for those clubs who want to develop. If we are to grow we need more players like you to do the right thing and help out locally. You can do both - play with your mates AND help out a local team - perhaps you already do?

"Think not what your team can do for you but what you can do for your team" or is that saying a bit dated nowadays?

Ben

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It came to me last year that having a website that provided a first step for 
tournament organising would be incredibly useful. I am currently in the 
process of designing it: www.discspace.uk.com I invisaged a site that not 
only offered a geographic-specific database of venues with a range of team 
capacities but also schedule templates, accomodation listings (as a link), 
'ultimate friendly' sponsors (eg. Redbull) T-shirt printer links, invite 
templates, cone/score board hire and many other features that would not only 
encourage tournament directing but also improve the structure and running of 
tournaments. I must confess i first saw this site as a financial opportunity 
but only through advertising as it will be a free service, i will continue 
planning this site with aim to have it up and running by september as long 
as i have ukultimate's approval... if the UKU Administrator expresses a wish 
to follow through with their own database i wont pursue this venture any 
further. I would like to hear peoples comments.

Chris Berry (Un Poco Loco #2)


>From: Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Wayne Retter <wayne@fluiddruids.com>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: The Tour/Relegation
>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 19:37:47 +0100
>
> >Ok, I have a few suggestions.  I think at least one of them will be 
>unpopular!
>
>:)
>
>IMnsHO:
>
>1. Running the Open and Mixed Tours on the same weekends won't work. Too
>many arguments that I could name... other people will probably divulge
>in full. BUT, Give it a few more years and this might indeed grow wings
>and fly.
>
>2. Think this through a little more... picture specifics (even though
>you're trying to come up with a general concept!)...
>You're currently suggesting two independent tiers of the Tour, with
>interaction (some kind of promotion/relegation/qualification event) at
>the beginning or end of the season. It's a fine idea, but work out what
>the flaws with this are, and how to fix them, too...
>
> >3.  In conjuction with 2., have a database of Frisbee 'friendly' 
>tournament
> >venues, which can be approached centrally by UK Ultimate rather than by
> >individuals who want to run a tournament (as these are often from the top 
>teams,
> >so would not always be able to be a TD).
>
>I can't argue with that!
>
>Wayne
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Sammy,

I thought most Stan players lived in the West Midlands area?

For the record I also don't want to see more restrictions - fundamentally should people have the choice to do whatever they like. I am actually becoming more sceptical of the current 'geo' system - seems a bit contrived to me nowadays - most people would naturally choose to play geo if the circumstances were right.

My suggestion is that we should encourage *loyalty* (by discouraging roster additions for international clubs events, for example). I think this is more palatable than annoying nanny-state regulations and would help local teams.

I dunno - food for thought anyway.

Best of British babbling luck in NZ!

;-)

Ben



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Dave Neilson" <D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:53:20 +0100

>I would warn against the idea of imposing too many restrictions on the
>make-up of teams. Offer incentives, by all means, for the geo model if
>that seems appropriate, but the idea of outlawing telephone teams is
>crazy!
>
>I beg to differ with Ben about the inability of 'old boys' (& girls of
>couse) teams achieving "anything serious or long-term". The case of STAN
>must be considered as counter-evidence to Ben's argument. Formed as a
>splinter group of the then national champions, STAN was composed almost
>entirely of ex-Bears who chose to play together as they shared a common
>style and sense of humour. Despite averaging about one practice per
>year, they stayed together for 12 years - yes TWELVE! - and were rarely
>outside of the top three teams in the country.
>
>I know times have changed, but the potential still exists - I have
>witnessed first hand the very high standard of the top student teams and
>many established 'club' teams owe their strength to a series of
>graduates from the same institution (NB not quite the same thing as
>'cherry picking'). Please note, I am not actively promoting this model,
>but using it as an example of how flawed some armchair theorists can
>be!
>
>The observation about the mobility of "young professionals" is also an
>important factor in this debate ... although I must admit that few would
>say that any STAN player was ever "young" and we could never be accused
>of being "professional" in any way, shape or form!
>
>Thanks for your time. I'm off to New Zealand, so why should I care? ...
>Well I do!
>
>Sam Neilson
>
>PS What was it Mel Gibson said in Braveheart? ...
>"You can take away our telephones, but you can never take away our
>FREEDOM!"
>... forcing the geo model could result in civil war!
>
>>>> "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net> 10/04/2002 08:10:05 >>>
>Jon,
>
>If you ask me, travelling all that way to play with your chosen team
>is
>crazy but thats your choice! If we're talking about doing something for
>the
>good of the sport it would be much more helpful if you brought your
>experience (and loyalty) to a local team near you. I appreciate that
>that is
>easier said than done though.
>
>I also despair at the number of university 'old boys' teams which
>spring up
>each year. I can understand wanting to stay in contact with uni friends
>and
>maybe playing a few fun tournaments together for a laugh but there's no
>way
>these teams are going to achieve anything serious or long-term unless
>you
>live near each other. Now that we have contact details for everyone I
>very
>much want to encourage graduates to go find (or start) a local team
>they can
>contribute to. This will be better for them in the long run (you get to
>play
>regularly!) and help strengthen of regionally-based teams.
>
>I believe the geo rules for the Tour simply say that all players must
>live
>within a 75 mile radius of somewhere - correct me if I'm wrong - its
>never
>been an issue for my team!
>
>Enough from me now I think.
>
>Ben
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jon Good" <funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com>
>To: <ben@ravilious.net>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Sent: 09 April 2002 22:30
>Subject: Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments
>
>
>> >Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad
>I've
>> > >been lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions
>myself.
>> > >However, as individual players we must recognise that doing this
>should
>> > >be on the basis of long-term commitment to a team. If we have
>this
>> >attitude then we will end up with more committed teams and therefore
>more
>> > >*individual* players getting the chance to attend. Heck if you're
>not
>> > >going to Hawaii go to Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead -
>you
>will
>> > >still have a good time and you don't need UK Ultimate to approve
>your
>> > >roster for this!!!
>>
>> Ben,
>>     I have to agree with you on the player loyalty issue. I've played
>for
>> BAF for about 5 years now, through my university career in Scotland.
>I
>think
>> player loyalty is hard as Ultimate comes from a student base, and as
>such
>a
>> lot of younger (no offense to 'older' players) players move around
>the
>> country a lot as they go to uni and the struggle to find a job. I may
>well
>> have this wrong but for geo teams aren't you supposed to live nearer
>them
>> than any other team? These two things just don't add  up. If I am
>right
>> (doubtful) on the geo team thing, can't we have some kind of waver
>for
>> players who have been at the club for a decent length of time? Sorry
>if
>I've
>> got my facts wrong but I can't check them at the moment.
>>
>> Le Boeuf
>> #44
>>
>>
>>
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Ken et al,

I doubt if the answer to this question is yes - and it shouldn't be.  Either
get there earlier by some other means or travel on Friday night.

Teams from Scotland are driving for 6 hours or more. No offence intended,
but you can put a little more effort in...

Barry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Kenny Lambert
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:57 AM
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Fwd: Problem with Tour 1 starting time
>
>
> According to www.railtrack.co.uk, the first train from
> London arrives at Bristol Temple Meads at 8:52.
>
> This would make a 9:00 am starting time impossible for
> both Hammerage squads and I'm sure others will have
> the same issue.
>
> Is pushing the first game back to 9:30 a possibility?
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
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I would also have to agree:
9am start on a 16 pitch venue. 
Therefore, captain's meeting, at, what, 8.30? That's fine if you stayed in
Bristol on the Friday night, but a huge number of people won't have done. 

Any chance this can be changed?

Andy

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alternatively,

	do what the other thirty- odd teams will do...

	Investigate train times on friday night and bring a tent. Or blag a
lift with someone saturday morning. Better still, I'm sure there's lots of
nice warm B&B's for you rich international jetsetting executive london types
:)

	Paul

	(after nine years of 900 mile roadtrips with sneeekys - it still
makes me laugh when local boys whinge about travel problems)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com]
> Sent: 10 April 2002 11:17
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: Problem with Tour 1 starting time
> 
> 
> >I'm sure others will have the same issue. 
> Clapham certainly do - for a number of players on both our 
> teams. 9:30 would
> be more comfortable and give them that extra 15 mins to cover 
> taxi to the
> pitches and warm up.
> 
> Mind you, given the railways track record (BOOM BOOM) maybe 
> we should make
> it 10:30?
> 
> rt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenny Lambert [mailto:kennylambert@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 10 April 2002 10:57
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Problem with Tour 1 starting time
> 
> 
> According to www.railtrack.co.uk, the first train from
> London arrives at Bristol Temple Meads at 8:52. 
> 
> This would make a 9:00 am starting time impossible for
> both Hammerage squads and I'm sure others will have
> the same issue. 
> 
> Is pushing the first game back to 9:30 a possibility?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ken
> 
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>I'm sure others will have the same issue. 
Clapham certainly do - for a number of players on both our teams. 9:30 would
be more comfortable and give them that extra 15 mins to cover taxi to the
pitches and warm up.

Mind you, given the railways track record (BOOM BOOM) maybe we should make
it 10:30?

rt

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 10 April 2002 10:57
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Problem with Tour 1 starting time


According to www.railtrack.co.uk, the first train from
London arrives at Bristol Temple Meads at 8:52. 

This would make a 9:00 am starting time impossible for
both Hammerage squads and I'm sure others will have
the same issue. 

Is pushing the first game back to 9:30 a possibility?

Thanks,
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> Fair point about the impracticality of moving teams 
> regularly. (Thought: Perhaps if we all recruited locally then 
> we would get more settled players?)
> 
	I believe Ben Booth mentioned the Oxfordshire Korfball League
before. The reality of this was the my team, Oxford City, was in the classic
predicament that some ultimate teams seem to find themsleves in - a small
core of regular players, a yearly flux of new people from the Universities,
no real competition and no real improvement. So some of City split off and
formed Abingdon Town. The OKA then set up the first league with 7 teams,
City 1, 2 and 3, two abingdon teams and two oxford uni teams. Abingdon won
it (in a pretty big upset) and this did their player base the power of good
because a lot of people got 'the bug' and brought more and more people in.
Oxford can now conentrate on bringing new players into the club and we've
just set up a team in brookes uni who will also play in the league. 

	In addition we pick the National League squad from all teams so
everyone has a chance at competing in national level. Maybe this is a way
forward - people are actively encouraged to play competitively in a local
forum and then the top team gets a regular pool of players to select a squad
from.

but the difference is that the OKA has a team of people who run it and who
are dedicated to running it, as well as playing in it.

	Paul
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The first train from Edinburgh gets in at 13:25. Could we have a start time 
of 2pm. Oh, and I need to be in bed by 7 on Sunday night (I have got school 
the next day after all!!), so can we finish at 11am on Sunday.
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BD,

>get there earlier by some other means or travel on Friday night.

On that point I'll be driving from Reading on Friday night if anyone needs a 
lift.

Drop me a line on this email if you're interested.

Angie

>From: "Barry O'Kane" <barry.okane@visitscotland.com>
>To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: Problem with Tour 1 starting time
>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:30:02 +0100
>
>
>Ken et al,
>
>I doubt if the answer to this question is yes - and it shouldn't be.  
>Either
>get there earlier by some other means or travel on Friday night.
>
>Teams from Scotland are driving for 6 hours or more. No offence intended,
>but you can put a little more effort in...
>
>Barry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Kenny Lambert
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:57 AM
> > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > Subject: Fwd: Problem with Tour 1 starting time
> >
> >
> > According to www.railtrack.co.uk, the first train from
> > London arrives at Bristol Temple Meads at 8:52.
> >
> > This would make a 9:00 am starting time impossible for
> > both Hammerage squads and I'm sure others will have
> > the same issue.
> >
> > Is pushing the first game back to 9:30 a possibility?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
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Sorry Ben

I think you missed my point ( Probably through my English ).  I was just 
trying to point out that people like to play with their mates and that being 
forced to play for their local geo team would discourage people from playing

.I've been playing with the same bunch since I started so I don't think 
mercenary is a charge that could be levelled at me.

As for the disbanded team you mentioned.  10 of them will be playing 
together again this year as they did last year and right the way back from 
the point when we entered the tour as a student side.  Just because we keep 
changing the name it doesn't mean that the spirit of the side isn't the 
same.

I have every respect for the way that Red recruit their players and work as 
a true geo team.  But it should be an individual choice.

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-->Long, but no anti-Red flames as I've now officially given up Red Bull at
work ;-) 

> How many Clapham players would play for Red if they happened 
> to move to Leicester ?

Hmm. I doubt any of the core team ever would move to Leicester (as we all
moved to Clapham pretty much just for the frisbee AND we didn't get let into
a drum'n'bass club in Leicester one year cos we were wearing trainers!), but
others would probably consider it. John Palmer, who played with us last year
in Prague, has started playing with the Sharks now he's moved back to
Oxford. Pete Coy has started playing with Poco now he's moved back to
Brissle. We don't try and hang on to players who move out of our area - if
they can't make at least one practice a week we shove 'em out the door
pretty sharp. 

Personally I agree with both Sammy and Ben in that we shouldn't place any
further restrictions on the geo nature of teams. Until we have top quality
teams in every city (which we're much nearer today than we were 5 years ago,
but still some way off) some people will always want to play with people of
a similar standard or with friends; true, some will be willing to play with
newer teams to bring them on, but we shouldn't penalise those who don't as
we may compromise their dedication to the sport or at worst drive them away
completely - when they will probably join a geo team later as their team
breaks up (cf UTI, Catch 22, Regulators). Ben's entirely right that teams
which are mostly geo-based are proving to be a very very strong basis for
improvement and growth of quality UK Ultimate (proved by the brilliant
results for ALL our teams last year in Prague - where our 2nd placed team
and 4th, 5th & 6th placed teams came higher than the corresponding team from
ANY other country), but we should let competitive forces prove to non-geo
team players that if they want to play at the top level in the UK or at
international level they'll have to join a successful geo team.

I do struggle to see why Ben is 'becoming more sceptical of the current geo
system' as the current system places virtually no restictions or offers no
real advantages apart from allowing 2 teams which doesn't apply to any of
the non-geo teams anyway. Ben?

>My suggestion is that we should encourage *loyalty* (by discouraging roster
additions 
>for international clubs events, for example). I think this is more
palatable than 
>annoying nanny-state regulations and would help local teams.
?????? Not sure exactly what you'd be hoping to gain from this. As far as I
can tell this has always been a way of talented junior players getting
experience that will greatly help their development, and thus the
development of the sport as a whole in the UK. Examples abound of how well
this has worked in the past: Dougie and Ollie from Bad Company (Cambridge)
playing with the Hombres abroad; Wigsy, Bowles and Sickboy playing with
Shotgun in Vancouver; bl**dy everyone playing with the Purple Scum ;-). It
happens the world over and to prevent UK teams alone doing it would only
hold development back in the long term as well as put us at a competitive
disadvantage versus the rest of the world in the individual competitions. At
the moment all it would mean is that someone way down the roster who is
probably far less committed to the sport and has far less potential would
get an opportunity to play at a level which is completely beyond them.

This year's Tour should shed some light on the issue - will the honourably
geo Sharks be able to use that advantage over the more experienced but
dishonourable Druids? How well will less-than-geo Poco fare with their
strong roster but lack of weekly practice? What about the strongly geo
Leeds*3 without some of their main players?

Anyway, can't wait for it all to begin on Saturday :-)

Silver Bear
cu#1

"He's grey, he's fat, he cuts like a twat - Roger, Roger"



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Rob,

Fair point about the impracticality of moving teams regularly. (Thought:
Perhaps if we all recruited locally then we would get more settled players?)

> How many Clapham players would play for Red if they happened 
> to move to Leicester ?

I'll let the Clapham players answer that question (!) but the way you put it
reveals the same old attitude that I'm on about.

Is playing for the very best team you can get on the single most important
aim of your playing career Rob? And what makes a team good? Is it simply
down to their roster?

Why not ask "How much better could Red be if a Clapham player joined us?" 

Clapham are better than Red due to training and experience not some
god-given gift (what have I started?!). I'm asking that if more people with
said experience and training were to spread it around then we would have a
better sport. Full respect to Clapham (sic!) for doing exactly this by
maintaining a second team, running the winter league, etc ,etc

I vaguely remember a rather mediocre Sheffield uni graduates team (who
folded not so long ago) who discovered that the addition of an experienced
American(?) player could give them the confidence to beat the best team in
the country at the time. What does that tell you?

I'm sure this will now decend into farcical Red vs Clapham jibes (Roger?
Harvey?) but your somewhat mercenary attitude is very frustrating for those
clubs who want to develop. If we are to grow we need more players like you
to do the right thing and help out locally. You can do both - play with your
mates AND help out a local team - perhaps you already do?

"Think not what your team can do for you but what you can do for your team"
or is that saying a bit dated nowadays?

Ben


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I couldn't disagree more strongly with Hussey's previous comments concerning 
the women's tour.   There are a handful of exceptional female players who 
can compete effectively in the upper eschelons of the open tour. However, 
the majority of women who compete at this level will get less disc, less 
pitch time and less opportunity to develop their skills as players. I find 
it really difficult to believe that those women who end up playing  for open 
teams in the lower half of the Tour get to play as tactically a 
sophisticated game, with as many opportunities to learn and improve there 
skills as they would if they played for a team of experienced women in the 
Women's Tour. In terms of separation of the sport into men's ultimate and 
women's ultimate, what's wrong with that? Mixed ultimate already allows us 
to compete on an equal footing, why is open so important for women? In terms 
of Ultimate as a sport, speed, agility, athleticism and height are becoming 
more important, and it's unrealistic to believe that all women can compete 
against men as athletes.  They are more likely to develop their athletic 
capacities playing against other women, where they will have more 
responsibility on the pitch and probably more game time.

In terms of wanting to play at a high standard, it doesn't take a genius 
work out that if more women committed to playing in the women's tour instead 
of writing it off as a low grade competition, then it would be (and I 
certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility that it will still be anyway) a 
high standard event.

As for hosting the women's tour on separate weekends, it's already been 
mentioned that we have a pretty packed calender in our relatively short 
outdoor season, so I doubt that this is a practical suggestion anyway.

Finally, I think it's important to note that the nations that produce the 
world's top women's teams (the US and Canada) have clearly defined and 
extremely competitive women's divisions. Clearly, there are more female 
players in these countries and we can't yet hope to emulate this. However, 
there  are 19 teams currently entered in the first Mixed series event. Each 
team must have a minimum of 4 women to enter. That's enough for  10 
potential women's teams. I would welcome any comments or explanations as to 
why this has never happened. It's time for an honest and serious appraisal 
of women's ultimate in this country if we really want to build a platform 
from which we can produce an excellent GB women's team.

Sarah Gibbons

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In a message dated 10/04/2002 13:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, Filrichardson 
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> Subj:Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments 
> Date:10/04/2002 13:46:58 GMT Daylight Time
> From:<A HREF="mailto:Filrichardson">Filrichardson</A>
> To:<A HREF="mailto:funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com">funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com</A>
> 
> 
> 
> I dont think we should be trying to regulate teams.  Geo teams should be 
> the way forward as they train together but to say you must go to a team 
> just because there 10 miles closer that that one is daft!
> 
> Fil 
> Discophilia/Sublime
> 
> 
> In a message dated 09/04/2002 22:49:26 GMT Daylight Time, 
> funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com writes:
> 
> 
> >> Subj:Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments 
>> Date:09/04/2002 22:49:26 GMT Daylight Time
>> From:<A HREF="mailto:funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com">funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com</A>
>> To:<A HREF="mailto:ben@ravilious.net">ben@ravilious.net</A>, <A HREF="mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk">britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</A>
>> Sent from the Internet 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've 
>> > >been lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself. 
>> > >However, as individual players we must recognise that doing this should 
>> 
>> > >be on the basis of long-term commitment to a team. If we have this
>> >attitude then we will end up with more committed teams and therefore more 
>> 
>> > >*individual* players getting the chance to attend. Heck if you're not 
>> > >going to Hawaii go to Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you 
>> will 
>> > >still have a good time and you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your 
>> > >roster for this!!!
>> 
>> Ben,
>>     I have to agree with you on the player loyalty issue. I've played for 
>> BAF for about 5 years now, through my university career in Scotland. I 
>> think 
>> player loyalty is hard as Ultimate comes from a student base, and as such 
>> a 
>> lot of younger (no offense to 'older' players) players move around the 
>> country a lot as they go to uni and the struggle to find a job. I may well 
>> 
>> have this wrong but for geo teams aren't you supposed to live nearer them 
>> than any other team? These two things just don't add  up. If I am right 
>> (doubtful) on the geo team thing, can't we have some kind of waver for 
>> players who have been at the club for a decent length of time? Sorry if 
>> I've 
>> got my facts wrong but I can't check them at the moment.
>> 
>> Le Boeuf
>> #44
>> 
>> 
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated 10/04/2002 13:46:58 GMT Daylight Time, Filrichardson writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj:<B>Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments </B><BR>
Date:10/04/2002 13:46:58 GMT Daylight Time<BR>
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I dont think we should be trying to regulate teams.&nbsp; Geo teams should be the way forward as they train together but to say you must go to a team just because there 10 miles closer that that one is daft!<BR>
<BR>
Fil <BR>
Discophilia/Sublime<BR>
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<BR>
In a message dated 09/04/2002 22:49:26 GMT Daylight Time, funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj:<B>Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments </B><BR>
Date:09/04/2002 22:49:26 GMT Daylight Time<BR>
From:<A HREF="mailto:funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com">funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com</A><BR>
To:<A HREF="mailto:ben@ravilious.net">ben@ravilious.net</A>, <A HREF="mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk">britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</A><BR>
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&gt;Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've <BR>
&gt; &gt;been lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself. <BR>
&gt; &gt;However, as individual players we must recognise that doing this should <BR>
&gt; &gt;be on the basis of long-term commitment to a team. If we have this<BR>
&gt;attitude then we will end up with more committed teams and therefore more <BR>
&gt; &gt;*individual* players getting the chance to attend. Heck if you're not <BR>
&gt; &gt;going to Hawaii go to Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you will <BR>
&gt; &gt;still have a good time and you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your <BR>
&gt; &gt;roster for this!!!<BR>
<BR>
Ben,<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have to agree with you on the player loyalty issue. I've played for <BR>
BAF for about 5 years now, through my university career in Scotland. I think <BR>
player loyalty is hard as Ultimate comes from a student base, and as such a <BR>
lot of younger (no offense to 'older' players) players move around the <BR>
country a lot as they go to uni and the struggle to find a job. I may well <BR>
have this wrong but for geo teams aren't you supposed to live nearer them <BR>
than any other team? These two things just don't add&nbsp; up. If I am right <BR>
(doubtful) on the geo team thing, can't we have some kind of waver for <BR>
players who have been at the club for a decent length of time? Sorry if I've <BR>
got my facts wrong but I can't check them at the moment.<BR>
<BR>
Le Boeuf<BR>
#44<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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>I do struggle to see why Ben is 'becoming more sceptical of the current geo
>system' as the current system places virtually no restictions or offers no
>real advantages apart from allowing 2 teams which doesn't apply to any of
>the non-geo teams anyway. Ben?

Yup - its out of date. Its a weak restriction as it stands and had it any teeth it would be a frustrating one. There are better ways of promoting local ultimate bases.

(NOTE for the sound-bite politicians out there - I am not suggesting we scrap the ideal of geo teams - just that there are better ways of encouraging them than the present rules) 

>
>>My suggestion is that we should encourage *loyalty* (by discouraging roster
>additions 
>>for international clubs events, for example). I think this is more
>palatable than 
>>annoying nanny-state regulations and would help local teams.
>?????? Not sure exactly what you'd be hoping to gain from this. As far as I
>can tell this has always been a way of talented junior players getting
>experience that will greatly help their development, and thus the
>development of the sport as a whole in the UK. Examples abound of how well
>this has worked in the past: Dougie and Ollie from Bad Company (Cambridge)
>playing with the Hombres abroad; Wigsy, Bowles and Sickboy playing with
>Shotgun in Vancouver; bl**dy everyone playing with the Purple Scum ;-). It
>happens the world over and to prevent UK teams alone doing it would only
>hold development back in the long term as well as put us at a competitive
>disadvantage versus the rest of the world in the individual competitions. At
>the moment all it would mean is that someone way down the roster who is
>probably far less committed to the sport and has far less potential would
>get an opportunity to play at a level which is completely beyond them.


I accept the need for some market forces (I'm not a communist) and I believe people have the right to do this but I would like make them think very carefully about what the ramifications of this are for their original teams.

Hawaii, where there has been some player flux, is a bit of an anomaly because of the cost of getting there but the point still stands. I hope soon we get to the stage where there are so many strong UK teams fighting for clubs spots that this stuff becomes a things of the past. Perhaps I'm being naive?

I certainly don't want to disadvantage UK performance by insisting on 'no tart' teams only. On the other hand if the tarts were more committed to improving their original teams then
we would have more teams at international standard! 

For the purpose of growth the latter would be preferable - No?

(And for the record, I tarted for Sharks at clubs 95 - however I did it with my Red's permission and *came back* to Red a stronger player)

>This year's Tour should shed some light on the issue - will the honourably
>geo Sharks be able to use that advantage over the more experienced but
>dishonourable Druids? How well will less-than-geo Poco fare with their
>strong roster but lack of weekly practice? What about the strongly geo
>Leeds*3 without some of their main players?


Looking forward to it!

Ben
No personal references intended - names have been change to protect the guilty! ;-p

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Why not just move the venue.
This is clearly more simple solution than expecting teams to plan ahead.

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Calling Adam

Its Ed, Can u get in touch, I've got a couple of your
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On the subject of women's ultimate and geo teams. Has anyone considered the
impact of geo team's on women's ultimate? Having lived both near Leeds and
London since the development of geo teams in the past 18 months, my personal
experience has been that it is becoming increasingly difficult for
competitive women to benefit from practicing with experienced men as a
result of closed practices.

I understand the need for and applaud the move towards geo teams but because
of the small player base of competitive women I believe it may result in a
weaker GB women's team till the problem is addressed and many more women are
recruited.

Maria

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Sarah Gibbons [SMTP:sargibbons@hotmail.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:41 PM
> To:	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject:	Re: TOUR and Regulation 
> 
> 
> 
> I couldn't disagree more strongly with Hussey's previous comments
> concerning 
> the women's tour.   There are a handful of exceptional female players who 
> can compete effectively in the upper eschelons of the open tour. However, 
> the majority of women who compete at this level will get less disc, less 
> pitch time and less opportunity to develop their skills as players. I find
> 
> it really difficult to believe that those women who end up playing  for
> open 
> teams in the lower half of the Tour get to play as tactically a 
> sophisticated game, with as many opportunities to learn and improve there 
> skills as they would if they played for a team of experienced women in the
> 
> Women's Tour. In terms of separation of the sport into men's ultimate and 
> women's ultimate, what's wrong with that? Mixed ultimate already allows us
> 
> to compete on an equal footing, why is open so important for women? In
> terms 
> of Ultimate as a sport, speed, agility, athleticism and height are
> becoming 
> more important, and it's unrealistic to believe that all women can compete
> 
> against men as athletes.  They are more likely to develop their athletic 
> capacities playing against other women, where they will have more 
> responsibility on the pitch and probably more game time.
> 
> In terms of wanting to play at a high standard, it doesn't take a genius 
> work out that if more women committed to playing in the women's tour
> instead 
> of writing it off as a low grade competition, then it would be (and I 
> certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility that it will still be anyway) a
> 
> high standard event.
> 
> As for hosting the women's tour on separate weekends, it's already been 
> mentioned that we have a pretty packed calender in our relatively short 
> outdoor season, so I doubt that this is a practical suggestion anyway.
> 
> Finally, I think it's important to note that the nations that produce the 
> world's top women's teams (the US and Canada) have clearly defined and 
> extremely competitive women's divisions. Clearly, there are more female 
> players in these countries and we can't yet hope to emulate this. However,
> 
> there  are 19 teams currently entered in the first Mixed series event.
> Each 
> team must have a minimum of 4 women to enter. That's enough for  10 
> potential women's teams. I would welcome any comments or explanations as
> to 
> why this has never happened. It's time for an honest and serious appraisal
> 
> of women's ultimate in this country if we really want to build a platform 
> from which we can produce an excellent GB women's team.
> 
> Sarah Gibbons
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This idea won't solve the tour relegatoin thing, but it might help free =
up the calendar for more 'fun' events.

I've never really adjusted to the way 'you Brits' schedule the season, =
as opposed to the Americans.  I play way less ultimate here (I =
played/trained 6 days a week April-September and twice a week the rest =
of the year in Pittsburgh) but I'm always more worn out here.  Yeah- I =
know I'm older....

Anyway- in the States, there are two 'competive' seasons which leaves =
the summer for fun and summer league and training and whatever.  You =
play maybe three tournaments from April to Beginning of June, do what =
you want for the summer, and play the Nationals series September to =
early October.  So for six weeks in the spring and six weeks in the =
autum, you know you'll be playing your butt off every other weekend.  =
But you know that the rest of the year the pressure is off.

In the UK- adapting the idea to have divisional seasons might take the =
stress off the tournament planners.  Say three womens tournaments in the =
spring, every second week.  Then open season over the first half of =
summer(again every second week), and then mixed season (every second =
week) at the end of summer and autum.  With proper scheduling, you could =
still avoid major domestic events clashing with major foreign =
tournamnts.

Advantages:  The women's series might pick up some more players via the =
students, who would still be around.  More 'fun' tournaments could be =
run during the women's and mixed seasons but avoid the open season.  =
(For example, you could have 6 'fun' tournaments during the womens =
season.)  No one has to forsake one division for another.  Most people, =
except the most die-hard women, would get an 'off-season' in which to =
have a non-ultimate life. (I'm told this happens....)  Teams might have =
a better opportunity to structure training over a long lead-in period.

Disadvantages- during the season(s) in which you play, you really do =
sell you soul to the Ultimate gods- if you're not playing a tournament, =
you're usually training, hard.  I'm sure you can all think of others....

Just a suggestion.  Please discuss.

nancy

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Starting tomorrow (April 10) Clapham will be training every Thursday
throughout the summer.  These practices are open to any experienced players
who want to run hard and improve their game.
Training is on Clapham Common, next to Clapham South tube. Contact me
(alex.bowers@dunnhumby.com <mailto:alex.bowers@dunnhumby.com> ) with any
queries.
Start time is 6:30pm.
 
Alex


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<DIV><SPAN class=931281513-10042002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Starting tomorrow 
(April 10) Clapham will be training every Thursday throughout the summer.&nbsp; 
These practices are open to any experienced players&nbsp;who want to run hard 
and improve their game.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=931281513-10042002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Training is on 
Clapham Common, next to Clapham South tube. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
class=931281513-10042002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Contact me (<A 
href="mailto:alex.bowers@dunnhumby.com">alex.bowers@dunnhumby.com</A>) 
with&nbsp;any queries.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=931281513-10042002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Start time is 
6:30pm.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=931281513-10042002><FONT face=Arial 
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Hey now, that's not fair!  We don't all have closed practices, Slipdisc are a
geo-team but we open our practices to who ever wants to come along.  We've tried
to recruit more women, since we want to play in the Mixed Tour, but just can't
find the interest.  We've doubled the size of our squad this year, through
recruitment and some people coming back to Brum after Uni.  So, out of about
12-13 new players, 2 are women.  It's not from a lack of trying, believe me.  If
anyone has any good ideas on how to attract the ladies to our sport, please let
me know.  Aside from having good looking blokes in the squad to start with, that
hasn't worked either, I must be losing my touch!




"Cahill,Maria" <Maria.Cahill@uk.gases.boc.com> on 10/04/2002 14:14:48

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Subject:  RE: TOUR and Regulation



On the subject of women's ultimate and geo teams. Has anyone considered the
impact of geo team's on women's ultimate? Having lived both near Leeds and
London since the development of geo teams in the past 18 months, my personal
experience has been that it is becoming increasingly difficult for
competitive women to benefit from practicing with experienced men as a
result of closed practices.

I understand the need for and applaud the move towards geo teams but because
of the small player base of competitive women I believe it may result in a
weaker GB women's team till the problem is addressed and many more women are
recruited.

Maria

> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Sarah Gibbons [SMTP:sargibbons@hotmail.com]
> Sent:   Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:41 PM
> To:     britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject:     Re: TOUR and Regulation
>
>
>
> I couldn't disagree more strongly with Hussey's previous comments
> concerning
> the women's tour.   There are a handful of exceptional female players who
> can compete effectively in the upper eschelons of the open tour. However,
> the majority of women who compete at this level will get less disc, less
> pitch time and less opportunity to develop their skills as players. I find
>
> it really difficult to believe that those women who end up playing  for
> open
> teams in the lower half of the Tour get to play as tactically a
> sophisticated game, with as many opportunities to learn and improve there
> skills as they would if they played for a team of experienced women in the
>
> Women's Tour. In terms of separation of the sport into men's ultimate and
> women's ultimate, what's wrong with that? Mixed ultimate already allows us
>
> to compete on an equal footing, why is open so important for women? In
> terms
> of Ultimate as a sport, speed, agility, athleticism and height are
> becoming
> more important, and it's unrealistic to believe that all women can compete
>
> against men as athletes.  They are more likely to develop their athletic
> capacities playing against other women, where they will have more
> responsibility on the pitch and probably more game time.
>
> In terms of wanting to play at a high standard, it doesn't take a genius
> work out that if more women committed to playing in the women's tour
> instead
> of writing it off as a low grade competition, then it would be (and I
> certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility that it will still be anyway) a
>
> high standard event.
>
> As for hosting the women's tour on separate weekends, it's already been
> mentioned that we have a pretty packed calender in our relatively short
> outdoor season, so I doubt that this is a practical suggestion anyway.
>
> Finally, I think it's important to note that the nations that produce the
> world's top women's teams (the US and Canada) have clearly defined and
> extremely competitive women's divisions. Clearly, there are more female
> players in these countries and we can't yet hope to emulate this. However,
>
> there  are 19 teams currently entered in the first Mixed series event.
> Each
> team must have a minimum of 4 women to enter. That's enough for  10
> potential women's teams. I would welcome any comments or explanations as
> to
> why this has never happened. It's time for an honest and serious appraisal
>
> of women's ultimate in this country if we really want to build a platform
> from which we can produce an excellent GB women's team.
>
> Sarah Gibbons
>
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In London at least there are now regular women's practices in Regents park.
And although Clapham practices are 'closed' this means 'by invitation'
rather than 'Clapham squad members only'. We have women attending pretty
much every practice, and I would hope that other open teams with closed
training sessions (if you get my drift) would take the same position.

With regards the timing of the Women's tour:
How many women play in the tour? How many for top 16/20 teams?
How many of them would rather play a Women's tour than the Open if they were
the same weekend?
etc.
Maybe something for the Association to check out?

Alex
Clapham



-----Original Message-----
From: Cahill,Maria [mailto:Maria.Cahill@uk.gases.boc.com]
Sent: 10 April 2002 14:15
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: TOUR and Regulation 


On the subject of women's ultimate and geo teams. Has anyone considered the
impact of geo team's on women's ultimate? Having lived both near Leeds and
London since the development of geo teams in the past 18 months, my personal
experience has been that it is becoming increasingly difficult for
competitive women to benefit from practicing with experienced men as a
result of closed practices.

I understand the need for and applaud the move towards geo teams but because
of the small player base of competitive women I believe it may result in a
weaker GB women's team till the problem is addressed and many more women are
recruited.

Maria

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Sarah Gibbons [SMTP:sargibbons@hotmail.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:41 PM
> To:	britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject:	Re: TOUR and Regulation 
> 
> 
> 
> I couldn't disagree more strongly with Hussey's previous comments
> concerning 
> the women's tour.   There are a handful of exceptional female players who 
> can compete effectively in the upper eschelons of the open tour. However, 
> the majority of women who compete at this level will get less disc, less 
> pitch time and less opportunity to develop their skills as players. I find
> 
> it really difficult to believe that those women who end up playing  for
> open 
> teams in the lower half of the Tour get to play as tactically a 
> sophisticated game, with as many opportunities to learn and improve there 
> skills as they would if they played for a team of experienced women in the
> 
> Women's Tour. In terms of separation of the sport into men's ultimate and 
> women's ultimate, what's wrong with that? Mixed ultimate already allows us
> 
> to compete on an equal footing, why is open so important for women? In
> terms 
> of Ultimate as a sport, speed, agility, athleticism and height are
> becoming 
> more important, and it's unrealistic to believe that all women can compete
> 
> against men as athletes.  They are more likely to develop their athletic 
> capacities playing against other women, where they will have more 
> responsibility on the pitch and probably more game time.
> 
> In terms of wanting to play at a high standard, it doesn't take a genius 
> work out that if more women committed to playing in the women's tour
> instead 
> of writing it off as a low grade competition, then it would be (and I 
> certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility that it will still be anyway) a
> 
> high standard event.
> 
> As for hosting the women's tour on separate weekends, it's already been 
> mentioned that we have a pretty packed calender in our relatively short 
> outdoor season, so I doubt that this is a practical suggestion anyway.
> 
> Finally, I think it's important to note that the nations that produce the 
> world's top women's teams (the US and Canada) have clearly defined and 
> extremely competitive women's divisions. Clearly, there are more female 
> players in these countries and we can't yet hope to emulate this. However,
> 
> there  are 19 teams currently entered in the first Mixed series event.
> Each 
> team must have a minimum of 4 women to enter. That's enough for  10 
> potential women's teams. I would welcome any comments or explanations as
> to 
> why this has never happened. It's time for an honest and serious appraisal
> 
> of women's ultimate in this country if we really want to build a platform 
> from which we can produce an excellent GB women's team.
> 
> Sarah Gibbons
> 
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<P><BR>I think&nbsp;it's very tricky&nbsp;ground&nbsp;if you are going to put limitations on who people can play&nbsp;for remember that this is a self-funded sport and as such, we should be free to pay to play for who we want.... I am very glad that I switched teams to go to Vancouver in 1997 and am going to Hawaii this year with Chevron. At the end of the day I am paying to play and as such want to play the best level of ultimate i can. </P>
<P>If someone in the future turns round and says that for the growth of their team I am not allowed to play for them as i don't live close enough then i won't play for them.&nbsp;I would however be willing to travel considerable distances to fulfil their "practise attendance" criteria - it's about priorites and what you are willing to do/give up. I do think geo is a great idea, but we cannot be dictatorial about it. Should geo be considered on amount of practises attended at the "home" venue or your locality?</P>
<P>wigsy</P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Ben Ravilious" <BEN@RAVILIOUS.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: <BEN@RAVILIOUS.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <BRITDISC@CSV.WARWICK.AC.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: Geo teams etc 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:09:15 +0100 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;I do struggle to see why Ben is 'becoming more sceptical of the current geo 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;system' as the current system places virtually no restictions or offers no 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;real advantages apart from allowing 2 teams which doesn't apply to any of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;the non-geo teams anyway. Ben? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Yup - its out of date. Its a weak restriction as it stands and had it any teeth it would be a frustrating one. There are better ways of promoting local ultimate bases. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;(NOTE for the sound-bite politicians out there - I am not suggesting we scrap the ideal of geo teams - just that there are better ways of encouraging them than the present rules) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;My suggestion is that we should encourage *loyalty* (by discouraging roster 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;additions 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;for international clubs events, for example). I think this is more 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;palatable than 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt;annoying nanny-state regulations and would help local teams. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;?????? Not sure exactly what you'd be hoping to gain from this. As far as I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;can tell this has always been a way of talented junior players getting 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;experience that will greatly help their development, and thus the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;development of the sport as a whole in the UK. Examples abound of how well 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;this has worked in the past: Dougie and Ollie from Bad Company (Cambridge) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;playing with the Hombres abroad; Wigsy, Bowles and Sickboy playing with 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Shotgun in Vancouver; bl**dy everyone playing with the Purple Scum ;-). It 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;happens the world over and to prevent UK teams alone doing it would only 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;hold development back in the long term as well as put us at a competitive 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;disadvantage versus the rest of the world in the individual competitions. At 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;the moment all it would mean is that someone way down the roster who is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;probably far less committed to the sport and has far less potential would 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;get an opportunity to play at a level which is completely beyond them. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I accept the need for some market forces (I'm not a communist) and I believe people have the right to do this but I would like make them think very carefully about what the ramifications of this are for their original teams. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Hawaii, where there has been some player flux, is a bit of an anomaly because of the cost of getting there but the point still stands. I hope soon we get to the stage where there are so many strong UK teams fighting for clubs spots that this stuff becomes a things of the past. Perhaps I'm being naive? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I certainly don't want to disadvantage UK performance by insisting on 'no tart' teams only. On the other hand if the tarts were more committed to improving their original teams then 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;we would have more teams at international standard! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;For the purpose of growth the latter would be preferable - No? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;(And for the record, I tarted for Sharks at clubs 95 - however I did it with my Red's permission and *came back* to Red a stronger player) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;This year's Tour should shed some light on the issue - will the honourably 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;geo Sharks be able to use that advantage over the more experienced but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;dishonourable Druids? How well will less-than-geo Poco fare with their 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;strong roster but lack of weekly practice? What about the strongly geo 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Leeds*3 without some of their main players? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Looking forward to it! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Ben 
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>However, the majority of women who compete at this level will get
>less disc, less pitch time and less opportunity to develop their 
>skills as players.

Couldn't agree more. If you are a woman playing in a mixed-open 
team and do not feel this is the case then I personally think you 
are particularly lucky. Furthermore, as a woman, no matter how 
valued you are as a player by your own team, I can guarantee that 
if you play against a men-only-open team they will take advantage 
of the difference in height, speed and even weight on some 
occasions (if I'm about to jump for the same disc as a big bloke I'll 
always back off rather than be wiped out mid-air).

>As for hosting the women's tour on separate weekends, it's 
>already been mentioned that we have a pretty packed calender in 
>our relatively short outdoor season, so I doubt that this is a 
>practical suggestion anyway.

Anyway, isn't it great that we still all get to party together? I'd much 
prefer to play with women on pitch (be it mixed or women's), but on 
the dance floor it's nice to have the chance to play with men too! 
Keeping the tournaments side by side means that the community 
stays strong and you have more supporters (always nice).

As for numbers of women, I think Tour 1 and 2 are difficult as quite 
a few women players are students (fantastic growth in the sport) 
and with exams and course work deadlines looming Ultimate has 
to take second place to academia, just for the next month or so, 
it'll be interesting to see how this is reflected in the number of 
women's teams at Tours 3 and 4. 

The strangest thing is why in countries like Canada and the US 
men's ultimate continues to be called 'Open'?

Looking forward to the weekend.

Anna
BAPS

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>This year's Tour should shed some light on the issue - will the honourably
>geo Sharks be able to use that advantage over the more experienced but
>dishonourable Druids?

BAH!   Dishonourable? You're showing your age!!!

However, Druids meet the requirements to be a Geo club.

Does that make it time to review the requirements...

Wayne
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Hello everyone,

The suggestion that I can see least arguments against is splitting tour 1 
regionally, presumably north/south. the benefits to this as I see them are:

1. The open format of tour 1 means it can be split 50:50 without worrying 
about how to decide on a seeding system;

2. Top 16 teams - hence "commited/organised" players would be playing in 
both, so someone would be able to run the thing;

3. Tour 1 is always the most heavily subscribed, so is in most need of 
splitting.


the only potential problem is getting an even split in terms of both number 
and quality of teams so that they can be effectively seeded for subsequent 
tours. which could possibly be solved by making Clapham 1 play up north.

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Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams should attend the Captains =
meeting and these start times may be subject to change. So play it safe =
and be there early!

Captains Meeting at 8.45am
=20
Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)
=20
The following teams play at 9.15am.=20
=20
Mavis        Princess Layout        Janet Hawes        Jane Doe
Bad Habits        Chevy coed        Strange Blue        Atomic Horse
Un Poco Loco        STD        Hammerage1        Shooting Project
TeamShark        Flyght Club2        Headrush1        BAF2
Fusion        Hammerage2        Smash & Grab        Flyght Club1
Red1        Slipdisc2        BAF    Sublime
Clapham2        Red 2        Whey        Albatross
=20
All other teams are playing at 10.05
=20
 =20
2002 Tour 1 - Bristol

=20

Tournament Organisation

=20

Saturday
=B7       8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 mins (NO CAP) or maximum of 13 =
points. If disc is in air then the pass counts (including point if =
scored). Half time at 7 points - 2 minute TO at half.

=B7       In the event of a tied pool, the pool is determined using Tour =
(and WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference between tied teams; 2) Points =
scored by tied teams; 3) Points difference throughout whole pool 4) =
Points scored throughout whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF rules.

=B7       Teams then play one knockout game within the following groups; =
1 - 8; 9 - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 44. Games to 1 hour 15 =
mins plus a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, =
when the hooter sounds teams check the disc, finish the point, and then =
cap. If teams are between points then just cap.

=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some useful stuff. Please note that all =
teams=20
should attend the Captains meeting and these start times may be subject =
to=20
change. So play it safe and be there early!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Captains Meeting at 8.45am</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start times: (These are NOT=20
guarranteed!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The following teams play at 9.15am. =
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mavis&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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Layout&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Janet =
Hawes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bad Habits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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Chevy coed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Strange=20
Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Atomic Horse</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Un Poco Loco&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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STD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hammerage1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Shooting Project</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TeamShark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Flyght Club2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Headrush1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fusion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Hammerage2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Smash &amp;=20
Grab&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght Club1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Slipdisc2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Sublime</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clapham2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Red=20
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Albatross</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All other teams&nbsp;are playing at=20
10.05</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;=20
<P align=3Dcenter class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: =
center"><B><I><U><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2002 Tour 1 - Bristol<?xml:namespace prefix =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><I><U><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tournament =

Organisation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></I></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<H1>Saturday</H1>
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Adam Batchelor=20
To: britdisc=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:41 PM
Subject: Tour 1


All,

Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams should attend the Captains =
meeting and these start times may be subject to change. So play it safe =
and be there early!

Captains Meeting at 8.45am
=20
Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)
=20
The following teams play at 9.15am.=20
=20
Mavis        Princess Layout        Janet Hawes        Jane Doe
Bad Habits        Chevy coed        Strange Blue        Atomic Horse
Un Poco Loco        STD        Hammerage1        Shooting Project
TeamShark        Flyght Club2        Headrush1        BAF2
Fusion        Hammerage2        Smash & Grab        Flyght Club1
Red1        Slipdisc2        BAF    Sublime
Clapham2        Red 2        Whey        Albatross
=20
All other teams are playing at 10.05
=20
 =20
2002 Tour 1 - Bristol

=20

Tournament Organisation

=20

Saturday
=B7       8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 mins (NO CAP) or maximum of 13 =
points. If disc is in air then the pass counts (including point if =
scored). Half time at 7 points - 2 minute TO at half.

=B7       In the event of a tied pool, the pool is determined using Tour =
(and WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference between tied teams; 2) Points =
scored by tied teams; 3) Points difference throughout whole pool 4) =
Points scored throughout whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF rules.

=B7       Teams then play one knockout game within the following groups; =
1 - 8; 9 - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 44. Games to 1 hour 15 =
mins plus a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, =
when the hooter sounds teams check the disc, finish the point, and then =
cap. If teams are between points then just cap.

=20

Sunday
=B7       Teams enter a full knockout in the following groups; 1 - 4; 5 =
- 12; 13 - 20; 21 - 28; 29 - 36; 37 - 44.

=B7       Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 =
points. If disc is in play, when the hooter sounds teams check the disc, =
finish the point, and then cap. If teams are between points then just =
cap.  (1 - 4 teams play 1 hour 45 mins + TWO point cap, or 17 points)

=B7       2 time-outs per team, not to be taken in the cap. 2 minute =
half time. (1 - 4; 2 TO's per half per team, 10 min HT)

=20

Women's Event
=B7         This event is a double league with finals.

=B7         Games are the same length and format as relevant game slot =
for the open event. One round is during the initial pools on Saturday, =
and the second round is during the Saturday play-off games and Sunday =
games.

=B7         Do not alter seeding after the first round of games.

=20

=B7       Please ensure that you report your results and fill in the =
results sheets for the pool games and cross-overs provided.

=B7       Winning teams have to ensure that the water container for =
their pitch is refilled, and that the cones and water containers are =
returned at the end of the last game.

=B7       Late Teams - If a team is late to the start of a game then =
they are given five minutes grace, before losing a point at the end of =
every minute after they are late. During those five minutes it is your =
responsibility to find your opposition; they may still be playing a =
previous game; they may be involved in the calculation of a tied pool, =
and do not know who they play next (speak to them, let them know you are =
waiting). In these situations a game starts as soon as it is reasonable, =
but MUST finish on time, do not extend your game.

=B7       You may, but do not have to, play a team that cannot field =
seven players. You can start taking points.

=B7       WFDF Rules - The official WFDF rules have not changed since =
last year (Other than dimensions of the pitches), so we will continue to =
play to last years WFDF rules.

=20

Other Useful Points

=20

Please use rubbish bins provided.
tidy up after yourselves
Dont forget the late bar ;-)
  =20
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href=3D"mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net" =
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk"=20
title=3Dbritdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>britdisc</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Tour 1</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some useful stuff. Please note that all =
teams=20
should attend the Captains meeting and these start times may be subject =
to=20
change. So play it safe and be there early!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Captains Meeting at 8.45am</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start times: (These are NOT=20
guarranteed!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The following teams play at 9.15am. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mavis&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Princess=20
Layout&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Janet =
Hawes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jane Doe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bad Habits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Chevy coed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Strange=20
Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Atomic Horse</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Un Poco Loco&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
STD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hammerage1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Shooting Project</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TeamShark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Flyght Club2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Headrush1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fusion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Hammerage2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Smash &amp;=20
Grab&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght Club1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Slipdisc2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Sublime</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clapham2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Red=20
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Albatross</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All other teams&nbsp;are playing at=20
10.05</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;=20
<P align=3Dcenter class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: =
center"><B><I><U><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2002 Tour 1 - Bristol<?xml:namespace prefix =
=3D o ns =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
/><o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></I></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><I><U><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tournament =

Organisation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></I></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<H1>Saturday</H1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 14.15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -14.15pt; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">8 pools of 5 or 6; Games =
to 40 mins=20
(NO CAP) or maximum of 13 points. If disc is in air then the pass counts =

(including point if scored). Half time at 7 points &#8211; 2 minute TO =
at=20
half.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 14.15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -14.15pt; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In the event of a tied =
pool, the=20
pool is determined using Tour (and WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference =
between=20
tied teams; 2) Points scored by tied teams; 3) Points difference =
throughout=20
whole pool 4) Points scored throughout whole pool; 5) as per remaining =
WFDF=20
rules.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 14.15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -14.15pt; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Teams then play one =
knockout game=20
within the following groups; 1 - 8; 9 - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; =
41 - 44.=20
Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 points. If =
disc is=20
in play, when the hooter sounds teams check the disc, finish the point, =
and then=20
cap. If teams are between points then just cap.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<H1>Sunday</H1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 14.15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -14.15pt; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Teams enter a full =
knockout in the=20
following groups; 1 - 4; 5 - 12; 13 - 20; 21 - 28; 29 - 36; 37 -=20
44.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 14.15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -14.15pt; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Games to 1 hour 15 mins =
plus a TWO=20
point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, when the hooter =
sounds=20
teams check the disc, finish the point, and then cap. If teams are =
between=20
points then just cap.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>(1 =
- 4 teams=20
play 1 hour 45 mins + TWO point cap, or 17 points)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 14.15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -14.15pt; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2 time-outs per team, not =
to be=20
taken in the cap. 2 minute half time. (1 - 4; 2 TO&#8217;s per half per =
team, 10 min=20
HT)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<H1>Women&#8217;s Event</H1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 =
lfo2; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This event is a double =
league with=20
finals.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 =
lfo2; tab-stops: list .25in"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Games are the same length =
and format=20
as relevant game slot for the open event. One round is during the =
initial pools=20
on Saturday, and the second round is during the Saturday play-off games =
and=20
Sunday games.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Do not alter seeding after =
the first=20
round of games.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 14.15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -14.15pt; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Please ensure that you =
report your=20
results and fill in the results sheets for the pool games and =
cross-overs=20
provided.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 14.15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -14.15pt; mso-list: l0 =
level1 lfo1"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">=B7<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Winning teams have to =
ensure that=20
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Can we see the complete pools for Saturday please?  Or is it a surprise?!





"Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net> on 11/04/2002 10:56:44

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Subject:  Fw: Tour 1




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----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Batchelor
To: britdisc
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:41 PM
Subject: Tour 1


All,

Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams should attend the Captain=
s meeting
and these start times may be subject to change. So play it safe and be =
there
early!

Captains Meeting at 8.45am

Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)

The following teams play at 9.15am.

Mavis        Princess Layout        Janet Hawes        Jane Doe
Bad Habits        Chevy coed        Strange Blue        Atomic Horse
Un Poco Loco        STD        Hammerage1        Shooting Project
TeamShark        Flyght Club2        Headrush1        BAF2
Fusion        Hammerage2        Smash & Grab        Flyght Club1
Red1        Slipdisc2        BAF    Sublime
Clapham2        Red 2        Whey        Albatross

All other teams are playing at 10.05


2002 Tour 1 - Bristol



Tournament Organisation



Saturday
=B7       8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 mins (NO CAP) or maximum of 13=
 points. If
disc is in air then the pass counts (including point if scored). Half t=
ime at 7
points - 2 minute TO at half.

=B7       In the event of a tied pool, the pool is determined using Tou=
r (and
WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference between tied teams; 2) Points scored =
by tied
teams; 3) Points difference throughout whole pool 4) Points scored thro=
ughout
whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF rules.

=B7       Teams then play one knockout game within the following groups=
; 1 - 8; 9
- 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 44. Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus =
a TWO
point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, when the hooter =
sounds
teams check the disc, finish the point, and then cap. If teams are betw=
een
points then just cap.



Sunday
=B7       Teams enter a full knockout in the following groups; 1 - 4; 5=
 - 12; 13 -
20; 21 - 28; 29 - 36; 37 - 44.

=B7       Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus a TWO point cap or maximum of 15=
 points. If
disc is in play, when the hooter sounds teams check the disc, finish th=
e point,
and then cap. If teams are between points then just cap.  (1 - 4 teams =
play 1
hour 45 mins + TWO point cap, or 17 points)

=B7       2 time-outs per team, not to be taken in the cap. 2 minute ha=
lf time. (1
- 4; 2 TO's per half per team, 10 min HT)



Women's Event
=B7         This event is a double league with finals.

=B7         Games are the same length and format as relevant game slot =
for the
open event. One round is during the initial pools on Saturday, and the =
second
round is during the Saturday play-off games and Sunday games.

=B7         Do not alter seeding after the first round of games.



=B7       Please ensure that you report your results and fill in the re=
sults
sheets for the pool games and cross-overs provided.

=B7       Winning teams have to ensure that the water container for the=
ir pitch is
refilled, and that the cones and water containers are returned at the e=
nd of the
last game.

=B7       Late Teams - If a team is late to the start of a game then th=
ey are
given five minutes grace, before losing a point at the end of every min=
ute after
they are late. During those five minutes it is your responsibility to f=
ind your
opposition; they may still be playing a previous game; they may be invo=
lved in
the calculation of a tied pool, and do not know who they play next (spe=
ak to
them, let them know you are waiting). In these situations a game starts=
 as soon
as it is reasonable, but MUST finish on time, do not extend your game.

=B7       You may, but do not have to, play a team that cannot field se=
ven
players. You can start taking points.

=B7       WFDF Rules - The official WFDF rules have not changed since l=
ast year
(Other than dimensions of the pitches), so we will continue to play to =
last
years WFDF rules.



Other Useful Points



Please use rubbish bins provided.
tidy up after yourselves
Dont forget the late bar ;-)


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Just a quick question....=20
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Are we going to adopt the new UPA rule about a defensive catch in the
offensive endzone is a score (ie defender intercepts and catches disk in th=
e
endzone which he/she is not defending) or not? if not are there any plans t=
o
adopt it in the future and will this rule be in force for Hawaii (Longshot
at getting any answers there)?
=20
Could be useful to know for the weekend!!!
=20
Thanks,
=20
Phil
=20
CU #33
=20
PS the geo thing works even for Clapham players (I'm going down in flames
for this) but I may well have donned a shirt of rouge hue..... but it was a
long time ago and I'm better now.
=20
 -----Original Message-----
From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:58 AM
To: britdisc
Subject: Fw: Tour 1


=20
=20
Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams should attend the Captains
meeting and these start times may be subject to change. So play it safe and
be there early!
=20
Captains Meeting at 8.45am
=20
Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)
=20
The following teams play at 9.15am.=20
=20
Mavis        Princess Layout        Janet Hawes        Jane Doe
Bad Habits        Chevy coed        Strange Blue        Atomic Horse
Un Poco Loco        STD        Hammerage1        Shooting Project
TeamShark        Flyght Club2        Headrush1        BAF2
Fusion        Hammerage2        Smash & Grab        Flyght Club1
Red1        Slipdisc2        BAF    Sublime
Clapham2        Red 2        Whey        Albatross
=20
All other teams are playing at 10.05
=20
 =20

2002 Tour 1 - Bristol

=20

Tournament Organisation

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Saturday


=B7       8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 mins (NO CAP) or maximum of 13
points. If disc is in air then the pass counts (including point if scored).
Half time at 7 points - 2 minute TO at half.

=B7       In the event of a tied pool, the pool is determined using Tour (a=
nd
WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference between tied teams; 2) Points scored by
tied teams; 3) Points difference throughout whole pool 4) Points scored
throughout whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF rules.

=B7       Teams then play one knockout game within the following groups; 1 =
-
8; 9 - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 44. Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus
a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, when the hoote=
r
sounds teams check the disc, finish the point, and then cap. If teams are
between points then just cap.

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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Just a quick 
question.... </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Are we going to 
adopt the new UPA rule about a defensive catch in the offensive endzone is a 
score (ie defender intercepts and catches disk in the endzone which he/she is 
not defending) or not? if not are there any plans to adopt it in the future and 
will this rule be in force for Hawaii (Longshot at getting any answers 
there)?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Could be useful to 
know for the weekend!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=920062110-11042002>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=920062110-11042002>Phil</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>CU 
#33</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>PS the geo thing 
works even for Clapham players (I'm going down in flames for this) but I may 
well have donned a shirt of rouge hue..... but it was a long time ago and I'm 
better now.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=920062110-11042002>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=920062110-11042002>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams 
should attend the Captains meeting and these start times may be subject to 
change. So play it safe and be there early!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Captains Meeting at 8.45am</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Start times: (These are NOT 
guarranteed!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The following teams play at 9.15am. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mavis&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Princess 
Layout&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Janet Hawes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jane Doe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bad Habits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Chevy coed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Strange 
Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Atomic Horse</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Un Poco Loco&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
STD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hammerage1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Shooting Project</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TeamShark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Flyght Club2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Headrush1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fusion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Hammerage2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Smash &amp; 
Grab&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght Club1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Red1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Slipdisc2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Sublime</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clapham2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Red 
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Albatross</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All other teams&nbsp;are playing at 
10.05</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; 
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><B><I><U><SPAN 
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><I><U><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tournament 
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<H1>Saturday</H1>
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(NO CAP) or maximum of 13 points. If disc is in air then the pass counts 
(including point if scored). Half time at 7 points &#8211; 2 minute TO at 
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Hi Phil,

As far as I know, the Callahan Goal that you discribe is not part of the 
WFDF rules and has only been recently adopted for all play in the US (10th 
edition rules)...it was demoed on the college scene first.
No idea if the WFDF are planning to adopt the rule changes included in the 
UPA 10th edition rules. I assume that Hawaii (as it is a WFDF event) will be 
played under WFDF rules.

See you at the weekend,
Emily


>From: Philip Cooper <Pcooper@iirltd.co.uk>
>To: britdisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>Subject: Rules clarification.....
>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:30:27 +0100
>
>Just a quick question....
>
>Are we going to adopt the new UPA rule about a defensive catch in the
>offensive endzone is a score (ie defender intercepts and catches disk in 
>the
>endzone which he/she is not defending) or not? if not are there any plans 
>to
>adopt it in the future and will this rule be in force for Hawaii (Longshot
>at getting any answers there)?
>
>Could be useful to know for the weekend!!!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Phil
>
>CU #33
>
>PS the geo thing works even for Clapham players (I'm going down in flames
>for this) but I may well have donned a shirt of rouge hue..... but it was a
>long time ago and I'm better now.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:58 AM
>To: britdisc
>Subject: Fw: Tour 1
>
>
>
>
>Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams should attend the Captains
>meeting and these start times may be subject to change. So play it safe and
>be there early!
>
>Captains Meeting at 8.45am
>
>Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)
>
>The following teams play at 9.15am.
>
>Mavis        Princess Layout        Janet Hawes        Jane Doe
>Bad Habits        Chevy coed        Strange Blue        Atomic Horse
>Un Poco Loco        STD        Hammerage1        Shooting Project
>TeamShark        Flyght Club2        Headrush1        BAF2
>Fusion        Hammerage2        Smash & Grab        Flyght Club1
>Red1        Slipdisc2        BAF    Sublime
>Clapham2        Red 2        Whey        Albatross
>
>All other teams are playing at 10.05
>
>
>
>2002 Tour 1 - Bristol
>
>
>
>Tournament Organisation
>
>
>
>
>Saturday
>
>
>·       8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 mins (NO CAP) or maximum of 13
>points. If disc is in air then the pass counts (including point if scored).
>Half time at 7 points - 2 minute TO at half.
>
>·       In the event of a tied pool, the pool is determined using Tour (and
>WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference between tied teams; 2) Points scored by
>tied teams; 3) Points difference throughout whole pool 4) Points scored
>throughout whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF rules.
>
>·       Teams then play one knockout game within the following groups; 1 -
>8; 9 - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 44. Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus
>a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, when the 
>hooter
>sounds teams check the disc, finish the point, and then cap. If teams are
>between points then just cap.
>
>
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Callahan scores are gay (in a non-homosexual way)
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Hedge

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Cooper [mailto:Pcooper@iirltd.co.uk]
Sent: 11 April 2002 11:30
To: britdisc
Subject: Rules clarification.....


Just a quick question....=20
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Are we going to adopt the new UPA rule about a defensive catch in the
offensive endzone is a score (ie defender intercepts and catches disk =
in the
endzone which he/she is not defending) or not? if not are there any =
plans to
adopt it in the future and will this rule be in force for Hawaii =
(Longshot
at getting any answers there)?
=20
Could be useful to know for the weekend!!!
=20
Thanks,
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Phil
=20
CU #33
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PS the geo thing works even for Clapham players (I'm going down in =
flames
for this) but I may well have donned a shirt of rouge hue..... but it =
was a
long time ago and I'm better now.
=20
 -----Original Message-----
From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:58 AM
To: britdisc
Subject: Fw: Tour 1


=20
=20
Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams should attend the =
Captains
meeting and these start times may be subject to change. So play it safe =
and
be there early!
=20
Captains Meeting at 8.45am
=20
Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)
=20
The following teams play at 9.15am.=20
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Mavis        Princess Layout        Janet Hawes        Jane Doe
Bad Habits        Chevy coed        Strange Blue        Atomic Horse
Un Poco Loco        STD        Hammerage1        Shooting Project
TeamShark        Flyght Club2        Headrush1        BAF2
Fusion        Hammerage2        Smash & Grab        Flyght Club1
Red1        Slipdisc2        BAF    Sublime
Clapham2        Red 2        Whey        Albatross
=20
All other teams are playing at 10.05
=20
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2002 Tour 1 - Bristol

=20

Tournament Organisation

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Saturday


=B7       8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 mins (NO CAP) or maximum of 13
points. If disc is in air then the pass counts (including point if =
scored).
Half time at 7 points - 2 minute TO at half.

=B7       In the event of a tied pool, the pool is determined using =
Tour (and
WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference between tied teams; 2) Points scored =
by
tied teams; 3) Points difference throughout whole pool 4) Points scored
throughout whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF rules.

=B7       Teams then play one knockout game within the following =
groups; 1 -
8; 9 - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 44. Games to 1 hour 15 mins =
plus
a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, when the =
hooter
sounds teams check the disc, finish the point, and then cap. If teams =
are
between points then just cap.

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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Philip Cooper 
  [mailto:Pcooper@iirltd.co.uk]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 11 April 2002 
  11:30<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc<BR><B>Subject:</B> Rules 
  clarification.....<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Just a quick 
  question.... </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Are we going to 
  adopt the new UPA rule about a defensive catch in the offensive endzone is a 
  score (ie defender intercepts and catches disk in the endzone which he/she is 
  not defending) or not? if not are there any plans to adopt it in the future 
  and will this rule be in force for Hawaii (Longshot at getting any answers 
  there)?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Could be useful 
  to know for the weekend!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002>Phil</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>CU 
  #33</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>PS the geo thing 
  works even for Clapham players (I'm going down in flames for this) but I may 
  well have donned a shirt of rouge hue..... but it was a long time ago and I'm 
  better now.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  class=920062110-11042002>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original 
  Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Adam Batchelor 
  [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 11, 2002 
  10:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fw: Tour 
  1<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams 
  should attend the Captains meeting and these start times may be subject to 
  change. So play it safe and be there early!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Captains Meeting at 8.45am</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Start times: (These are NOT 
  guarranteed!)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The following teams play at 9.15am. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mavis&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Princess Layout&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Janet 
  Hawes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jane Doe</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bad Habits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Chevy coed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Strange 
  Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Atomic Horse</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Un Poco Loco&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  STD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hammerage1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Shooting Project</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TeamShark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Flyght Club2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Headrush1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF2</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fusion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Hammerage2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Smash &amp; 
  Grab&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght Club1</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Red1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Slipdisc2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Sublime</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clapham2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Red 
  2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Albatross</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All other teams&nbsp;are playing at 
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Bristol<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></I></B></P>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><B><I><U><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tournament 
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I was under the impression that Clapham 2 were Disqualified freom 
tour 1 this year as they pulled out of last years final tour at very 
late notice.

It would probably be good if this issue was resolved before saturday.

Cheers, 

Roof

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We were blacklisted from Tour 1, which means that *if* the tournament was
oversubscribed Clapham 2 would have fallen off the bottom. Thanks to Adam's
large capacity that won't be necessary.

It's nice to know someone out there cares and is watching out for us ;-)

rt
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I was under the impression that Clapham 2 were Disqualified freom 
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late notice.

It would probably be good if this issue was resolved before saturday.

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From: "Christian Nistri" <wigsy22@hotmail.com>
To: kduk5@sussex.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Disqualifications
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:01:14 +0000
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below is what was written last year after Tour $ re: clapham 2 - what does 
blacklisted mean?
wigsy


All,

Those of you that were at tour 4 this year  will have been aware of 
complications, those of you that weren't probably heard about them. This is 
the decisions made after the event following some official complaints from 
teams. I apologise for the delay in this, missive, but recently I haven't 
had the time to follow this through until now.

1. The late withdrawal from Clapham. The rules on this are very clear. "Lose 
5% of final ranking score PER DAY (including the Monday) to be deducted at 
the end of the tour." Therefore Clapham 2 (the team that withdrew) 
withdrawing on the Thursday lose 20% of their final ranking score. Clapham 2 
are also blacklisted for the next tour event - the rules are very specific 
in that a team cannot be blacklisted for National Finals. (Check the Tour 
rules for what exactly is meant by blacklisting). However it was decided by 
the committee that to then seed Clapham 2 for Nationals (should they wish to 
attend) according to the position after penalties had been deducted would 
skew  the seeding unnecessarily, and unreasonably. Therefore Nationals would 
be seeded based on points score before penalties (which applies to all teams 
with penalties). That Clapham 2 finished 8th is due to their involvement in 
less than  all four tours, like a number of other teams, which is each teams 
individual choice. This in itself may skew the rankings, however to 
artificially alter them would cause further problems.
I wish to applaud Clapham, and particularly RT, for the manner in which they 
conducted themselves over the incident. They have repeatedly apologised and 
accepted with good grace the penalties imposed, and were aware enough of the 
rules to be able to tell me what they expected any penalty to be. Whilst 
having the seedings altered before Nationals with a points penalty might 
actually benefit the Clapham 2 team, they were able to see the problems that 
this might cause other teams, and felt that this would benefit the majority 
of players, and not just their own.


Thank you all for your patience in this, and whilst I am aware that this is 
not to everyone's satisfaction, it should meet with approval from the 
majority of teams.

Chris

>From: "roof11uk" <kduk5@sussex.ac.uk>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Disqualifications
>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:35:01 -0000
>
>
>I was under the impression that Clapham 2 were Disqualified freom
>tour 1 this year as they pulled out of last years final tour at very
>late notice.
>
>It would probably be good if this issue was resolved before saturday.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Roof
>


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Surprise.
But for those who can guess there are 8 pools ...




Adam & Matt
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: britdisc=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Tour 1


  Can we see the complete pools for Saturday please?  Or is it a =
surprise?!





  "Adam Batchelor" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net> on 11/04/2002 10:56:44

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Adam Batchelor
  To: britdisc
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:41 PM
  Subject: Tour 1


  All,

  Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams should attend the =
Captains meeting
  and these start times may be subject to change. So play it safe and be =
there
  early!

  Captains Meeting at 8.45am

  Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)

  The following teams play at 9.15am.

  Mavis        Princess Layout        Janet Hawes        Jane Doe
  Bad Habits        Chevy coed        Strange Blue        Atomic Horse
  Un Poco Loco        STD        Hammerage1        Shooting Project
  TeamShark        Flyght Club2        Headrush1        BAF2
  Fusion        Hammerage2        Smash & Grab        Flyght Club1
  Red1        Slipdisc2        BAF    Sublime
  Clapham2        Red 2        Whey        Albatross

  All other teams are playing at 10.05


  2002 Tour 1 - Bristol



  Tournament Organisation



  Saturday
  =B7       8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 mins (NO CAP) or maximum of =
13 points. If
  disc is in air then the pass counts (including point if scored). Half =
time at 7
  points - 2 minute TO at half.

  =B7       In the event of a tied pool, the pool is determined using =
Tour (and
  WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference between tied teams; 2) Points scored =
by tied
  teams; 3) Points difference throughout whole pool 4) Points scored =
throughout
  whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF rules.

  =B7       Teams then play one knockout game within the following =
groups; 1 - 8; 9
  - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 44. Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus =
a TWO
  point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, when the hooter =
sounds
  teams check the disc, finish the point, and then cap. If teams are =
between
  points then just cap.



  Sunday
  =B7       Teams enter a full knockout in the following groups; 1 - 4; =
5 - 12; 13 -
  20; 21 - 28; 29 - 36; 37 - 44.

  =B7       Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus a TWO point cap or maximum of =
15 points. If
  disc is in play, when the hooter sounds teams check the disc, finish =
the point,
  and then cap. If teams are between points then just cap.  (1 - 4 teams =
play 1
  hour 45 mins + TWO point cap, or 17 points)

  =B7       2 time-outs per team, not to be taken in the cap. 2 minute =
half time. (1
  - 4; 2 TO's per half per team, 10 min HT)



  Women's Event
  =B7         This event is a double league with finals.

  =B7         Games are the same length and format as relevant game slot =
for the
  open event. One round is during the initial pools on Saturday, and the =
second
  round is during the Saturday play-off games and Sunday games.

  =B7         Do not alter seeding after the first round of games.



  =B7       Please ensure that you report your results and fill in the =
results
  sheets for the pool games and cross-overs provided.

  =B7       Winning teams have to ensure that the water container for =
their pitch is
  refilled, and that the cones and water containers are returned at the =
end of the
  last game.

  =B7       Late Teams - If a team is late to the start of a game then =
they are
  given five minutes grace, before losing a point at the end of every =
minute after
  they are late. During those five minutes it is your responsibility to =
find your
  opposition; they may still be playing a previous game; they may be =
involved in
  the calculation of a tied pool, and do not know who they play next =
(speak to
  them, let them know you are waiting). In these situations a game =
starts as soon
  as it is reasonable, but MUST finish on time, do not extend your game.

  =B7       You may, but do not have to, play a team that cannot field =
seven
  players. You can start taking points.

  =B7       WFDF Rules - The official WFDF rules have not changed since =
last year
  (Other than dimensions of the pitches), so we will continue to play to =
last
  years WFDF rules.



  Other Useful Points



  Please use rubbish bins provided.
  tidy up after yourselves
  Dont forget the late bar ;-)




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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 11, 2002 =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Can we see the complete pools for Saturday =
please?&nbsp; Or is=20
  it a surprise?!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Adam Batchelor" &lt;<A=20
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t; on=20
  11/04/2002 10:56:44<BR><BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp; "britdisc" &lt;<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk">britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</A>=
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  britdisc<BR>Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:41 PM<BR>Subject: Tour=20
  1<BR><BR><BR>All,<BR><BR>Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams =
should=20
  attend the Captains meeting<BR>and these start times may be subject to =
change.=20
  So play it safe and be there<BR>early!<BR><BR>Captains Meeting at=20
  8.45am<BR><BR>Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)<BR><BR>The =
following=20
  teams play at =
9.15am.<BR><BR>Mavis&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Princess Layout&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Janet=20
  Hawes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jane Doe<BR>Bad=20
  Habits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Chevy=20
  coed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Strange=20
  Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Atomic Horse<BR>Un Poco =

  Loco&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  STD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Hammerage1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Shooting=20
  Project<BR>TeamShark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght=20
  Club2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Headrush1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  BAF2<BR>Fusion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Hammerage2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Smash &amp;=20
  Grab&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght=20
  Club1<BR>Red1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Slipdisc2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
BAF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Sublime<BR>Clapham2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Red=20
  2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Whey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Albatross<BR><BR>All =
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Hi,

Is there anyone travelling to Tour 1 tomorrow from the Yorkshire 
area (Hull, York, Leeds, Sheffield etc) or through it who might want 
to stop briefly in Leeds (what a long shot!) with space in a car? 

Plus (this is where it get's complicated) is anyone going back to 
Leeds area (or through/near it) with space for me and one other 
from Tour 1 on Sunday?

If you do please phone/text me on 07714 767911 as I may not get 
another chance to check emails.

I appreciate that this is a late and extremely complicated request 
so any offers will be greatfully accepted and petrol money paid/beer 
purchased (you life savers you).

Thank you!

Anna (and Rich on Sunday).
UKU (and LLLeeds)

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The bit Adam didn't include  is the bit I put in the blurb about the =
only
rule change this year is the change in dimension of the pitches (Small
alteration in conversion form  yards to meters). Everything else is the =
same
as before.
=20
So Phil - the answer is No - followed by 'I hadn't heard that!' and =
'Sounds
like a giggle!', and 'Why should the sheer incompetence of throwing to =
an
opposition player be considered worse (and punished) than throwing the =
disc
into the ground?'
=20
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Cooper [mailto:Pcooper@iirltd.co.uk]
Sent: 11 April 2002 11:30
To: britdisc
Subject: Rules clarification.....


Just a quick question....=20
=20
Are we going to adopt the new UPA rule about a defensive catch in the
offensive endzone is a score (ie defender intercepts and catches disk =
in the
endzone which he/she is not defending) or not? if not are there any =
plans to
adopt it in the future and will this rule be in force for Hawaii =
(Longshot
at getting any answers there)?
=20
Could be useful to know for the weekend!!!
=20
Thanks,
=20
Phil
=20
CU #33
=20
PS the geo thing works even for Clapham players (I'm going down in =
flames
for this) but I may well have donned a shirt of rouge hue..... but it =
was a
long time ago and I'm better now.
=20
 -----Original Message-----
From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:58 AM
To: britdisc
Subject: Fw: Tour 1


=20
=20
Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams should attend the =
Captains
meeting and these start times may be subject to change. So play it safe =
and
be there early!
=20
Captains Meeting at 8.45am
=20
Start times: (These are NOT guarranteed!)
=20
The following teams play at 9.15am.=20
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Mavis        Princess Layout        Janet Hawes        Jane Doe
Bad Habits        Chevy coed        Strange Blue        Atomic Horse
Un Poco Loco        STD        Hammerage1        Shooting Project
TeamShark        Flyght Club2        Headrush1        BAF2
Fusion        Hammerage2        Smash & Grab        Flyght Club1
Red1        Slipdisc2        BAF    Sublime
Clapham2        Red 2        Whey        Albatross
=20
All other teams are playing at 10.05
=20
 =20

2002 Tour 1 - Bristol

=20

Tournament Organisation

=20


Saturday


=B7       8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 mins (NO CAP) or maximum of 13
points. If disc is in air then the pass counts (including point if =
scored).
Half time at 7 points - 2 minute TO at half.

=B7       In the event of a tied pool, the pool is determined using =
Tour (and
WFDF) rules; 1) Points difference between tied teams; 2) Points scored =
by
tied teams; 3) Points difference throughout whole pool 4) Points scored
throughout whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF rules.

=B7       Teams then play one knockout game within the following =
groups; 1 -
8; 9 - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 44. Games to 1 hour 15 mins =
plus
a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 points. If disc is in play, when the =
hooter
sounds teams check the disc, finish the point, and then cap. If teams =
are
between points then just cap.

=20


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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=030431312-11042002>The 
bit Adam didn't include&nbsp; is the bit I put in the blurb about the only rule 
change this year is the change in dimension of the pitches (Small alteration in 
conversion form&nbsp; yards to meters). Everything else is the same as 
before.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=030431312-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=030431312-11042002>So 
Phil - the answer is No - followed by 'I hadn't heard that!' and 'Sounds like a 
giggle!', and 'Why should the sheer incompetence of throwing to an opposition 
player be considered worse (and punished) than throwing the disc into the 
ground?'</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=030431312-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=030431312-11042002>Chris</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Philip Cooper 
  [mailto:Pcooper@iirltd.co.uk]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 11 April 2002 
  11:30<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc<BR><B>Subject:</B> Rules 
  clarification.....<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Just a quick 
  question.... </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Are we going to 
  adopt the new UPA rule about a defensive catch in the offensive endzone is a 
  score (ie defender intercepts and catches disk in the endzone which he/she is 
  not defending) or not? if not are there any plans to adopt it in the future 
  and will this rule be in force for Hawaii (Longshot at getting any answers 
  there)?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>Could be useful 
  to know for the weekend!!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002>Phil</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>CU 
  #33</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=920062110-11042002>PS the geo thing 
  works even for Clapham players (I'm going down in flames for this) but I may 
  well have donned a shirt of rouge hue..... but it was a long time ago and I'm 
  better now.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
  class=920062110-11042002>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original 
  Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Adam Batchelor 
  [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 11, 2002 
  10:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fw: Tour 
  1<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some useful stuff. Please note that all teams 
  should attend the Captains meeting and these start times may be subject to 
  change. So play it safe and be there early!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Captains Meeting at 8.45am</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Start times: (These are NOT 
  guarranteed!)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The following teams play at 9.15am. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mavis&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Princess Layout&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Janet 
  Hawes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jane Doe</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bad Habits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Chevy coed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Strange 
  Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Atomic Horse</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Un Poco Loco&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  STD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hammerage1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Shooting Project</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TeamShark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Flyght Club2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Headrush1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF2</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fusion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Hammerage2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Smash &amp; 
  Grab&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Flyght Club1</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Red1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Slipdisc2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BAF&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Sublime</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clapham2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Red 
  2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Albatross</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All other teams&nbsp;are playing at 
  10.05</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp; 
  <P align=center class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><B><I><U><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2002 Tour 1 - 
Bristol<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></I></B></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><B><I><U><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tournament 
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  <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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  </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">8 pools of 5 or 6; Games to 40 
  mins (NO CAP) or maximum of 13 points. If disc is in air then the pass counts 
  (including point if scored). Half time at 7 points &#8211; 2 minute TO at 
  half.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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  </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">In the event of a tied pool, the 
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  tied teams; 2) Points scored by tied teams; 3) Points difference throughout 
  whole pool 4) Points scored throughout whole pool; 5) as per remaining WFDF 
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  </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Teams then play one knockout game 
  within the following groups; 1 - 8; 9 - 16; 17 - 24; 25 - 32; 33 - 40; 41 - 
  44. Games to 1 hour 15 mins plus a TWO point cap or maximum of 15 points. If 
  disc is in play, when the hooter sounds teams check the disc, finish the 
  point, and then cap. If teams are between points then just 
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Hi,

I'm Isabelle of Notre Dame de Monts (next Nantes) in 
France. 

I send you a mail for you anounce the open in Notre Dame de 
Monts wich will take place 3 to 6 July 2002.

There will 6 teams, each will play the other for the 
another. The logement will be the camping.

There will the discgolf, if you want.

The inscription (free) will be team or individual.

The Open in Notre Dame de Monts is an association with Open 
in Touraine. So you can play in the two tournament, during 
one week. Open in Touraine will take place 29 and 30 June 
2002, the 1st July a visit of a Loire Castle and the 2nd 
July a visit of Daviaud in Notre Dame de Monts will 
probably organisied.

For you put one's name, I need your name, team or 
individual inscription, if you want play discgolf, number 
of ultimate players and the team's name.

If you have any questions, I give you my e-mail: 
isabellelb@caramail.com

Bye,
Isabelle
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Great to hear this is happening again... My cousin
used to rant about the Open when she played 10years
ago!!!  One point WHEN IS IT?

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> One point WHEN IS IT?

It's all on the website
1-3 June.

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Hi
Sorry to clog britdisc but
Is anyone going to T1 via the M4.  I'm in Swindon and would appreicate a
lift. Normal drinks/petrol money supplied of course.
Thanks

James/Pimpy
Bears

Ps How about a new list just for this kind of thing? One for the
administrator to sort out I think.

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Due to lack of numbers there will be no MUTE TOURNY
this year, apologies to those who paid up. Your
cheques will be return to you.

Sorry for those of you who wanted to come.

Dann

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Thu, 11 Apr 2002, by HUGHES, Chris <mailto:CHughes@glos.ac.uk>;
 Subject: Rules clarification.....
>    'Why should the sheer incompetence of throwing to an 
>    opposition player be considered worse (and punished) than throwing the disc 
>    into the ground?'

C'mon Chris...

1) a completed pass into the endzone the receiver is attacking, and
therefore a score. Just ignore which team threw the pass!
(some American college kids came up with this one, so go ask them...)

2) Anyone can through the disc into the ground - there's a lot of it
around. It takes a special skill to throw the disc to a defender in your
own endzone!

3) I note your comment is from the throwers perspective.  Try it from
the point of view of the defender making the catch... (and I'm not
thinking of the Batchelor school-of-D !!!)

I thought it sounded like fun, too, but Roger never quite got around to
making it a one-off Winter League rule  :(

Wayne

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"blacklisting" is covered in the Tour Rules, to be found at
 http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/tour2002rules.htm

Clapham 2 are allowed to play at T1

I just realised, however, that the Rules don't specify how long the
Blacklist entry stands for - one event? one year? for ever?.
So we don't know whether Clapham 2 might be prevented from participating
at a 'smaller' Tour event.
Can of worms !?

Wayne

Thu, 11 Apr 2002, by Christian Nistri <mailto:wigsy22@hotmail.com>;
 Subject: Disqualifications
>below is what was written last year after Tour $ re: clapham 2 - what does 
>blacklisted mean?
>wigsy

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Hi,

I'm Isabelle of Notre Dame de Monts (next Nantes) in 
France. 

I send you a mail for you anounce the open in Notre Dame de 
Monts wich will take place 3 to 6 July 2002.

There will 6 teams, each will play the other for the 
another. The logement will be the camping.

There will the discgolf, if you want.

The inscription (free) will be team or individual.

The Open in Notre Dame de Monts is an association with Open 
in Touraine. So you can play in the two tournament, during 
one week. Open in Touraine will take place 29 and 30 June 
2002, the 1st July a visit of a Loire Castle and the 2nd 
July a visit of Daviaud in Notre Dame de Monts will 
probably organisied.

For you put one's name, I need your name, team or 
individual inscription, if you want play discgolf, number 
of ultimate players and the team's name.

If you have any questions, I give you my e-mail: 
isabellelb@caramail.com

Bye,
Isabelle
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James, and other looking for a lift.
For those of you who don't remember, there is a dedicated area on www.blcok-stack.co.uk specifically for offering and requesting transport. Unfortunatly it hasn't really been used very much. 

If anyone has any ideas about how this service could be improved I'd be pleased to hear them. Cya in Bristol.

Tom

tom@block-stack.co.uk
Flyght Club Schmoutdoors

-----Original Message-----
From: James Travers [mailto:J.M.Travers@warwick.ac.uk]
Sent: 11 April 2002 21:38
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Hi
Sorry to clog britdisc but
Is anyone going to T1 via the M4.  I'm in Swindon and would appreicate a
lift. Normal drinks/petrol money supplied of course.
Thanks

James/Pimpy
Bears

Ps How about a new list just for this kind of thing? One for the
administrator to sort out I think.

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>So we don't know whether Clapham 2 might be prevented from participating
>at a 'smaller' Tour event.

Chris Hughes (then DoC) and the u8c stated at the time:

>This is the agreed punishment from u8c:
>Blacklist Clapham 2 for the next tour event (Tour 1 2002) as per the rules.

So it has no consquences for future Tour events, and therefore shouldn't
impact our preparations for Hawaii. Thankfully.

c u all in Bristol, in the bar if not on the field,
rt
cu#1


-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 12 April 2002 00:47
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Disqualifications


"blacklisting" is covered in the Tour Rules, to be found at
 http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/tour2002rules.htm

Clapham 2 are allowed to play at T1

I just realised, however, that the Rules don't specify how long the
Blacklist entry stands for - one event? one year? for ever?.
So we don't know whether Clapham 2 might be prevented from participating
at a 'smaller' Tour event.
Can of worms !?

Wayne

Thu, 11 Apr 2002, by Christian Nistri <mailto:wigsy22@hotmail.com>;
 Subject: Disqualifications
>below is what was written last year after Tour $ re: clapham 2 - what does 
>blacklisted mean?
>wigsy

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Due to unfortunate drop outs there are now spaces available at the Brunel 
BEAST outdoor tournament on the 20/21st.  A fun tourney including Gutts, a 
charity distance event, on campus party and plenty of floor space/camping 
grounds.

It's the weekend before MUTE was meant to be.

Any takers?

cheers

info follows

kevin
Stop Throwing Discs - Brunel STD
kevin@block-stack.co.uk


2002 Brunel Beast Tournament - SNOUT Warm Up 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Date: 20-21 April
Teams: 16
Cost: £60
Venue: Brunel University, very west London.  M25 with M40 or M4.  Uxbridge 
station on the metropolitan line or Hayes and Harlington on the 
overground train from Paddignton to Reading.

Party: On Campus.  We have secured advanced tickets for the Comedy Club 
followed by the club night.  £4 entry

Other Events: Gutts knockout tournament and a charity distance event.
 
Accommodation: Limited student floors and camping.
 
MORE!: www.ulternative.com
 
The tournament is mostly a warm up for student outdoors 2 weeks later.  
Second teams are encouraged, all levels of ability.
 
Email to confirm your place with Gutts teams and accommodation/party 
numbers.
 
Cheers
kevin
 
 
Please make checks payable to 'Union of Brunel Students' and send to:
Ultimate Club
c/o Union of Brunel Students
Brunel University
Uxbridge
Middlesex
UB8 3PH

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Hi Britdisc,
 
Can anyone help me with the phonenumber of Rebecca Forth ? Or from one
of her teammates ?
 
Thanks,
Glenn 
Freezzz Beezzz Brugge
glenn@km.be <mailto:glenn@km.be> 
www.frisbee.be <http://www.frisbee.be/> 

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Hello,

Obviously we (Chevron) haven't got much to complain about after the weekend.
There is one thing, though, which something needs to be done about. The
spectators (who, I should add, were fantastic in their support) really were
far too close to the sideline. There was even an incident with a chair and a
clapham lad which should never have happened. There are (at least) 3 good
reasons for keeping the spectators clear of the sideline.

1. Less chance of incidents (like the chair one) caused either by the
player's momentum, or his/her laying out (e.g. worlds greatest - I wonder
how many more we'd see if there was more space!?).

2. Players are restricted from throwing discs which go out and then back in
(normally roll curves) . To do this at present, the release would have to be
extremely high. Imagine that someone is breaking long, and you, trapped on
the sideline, want to throw to him. The throw you would ideally make would
(when the spectators are as they were yesterday) have to go through about 5
people at least. This is outdoors, and one of the great things about
outdoors is that there are no walls. Why feel the need to construct one out
of people?

3. It makes it easier for the team playing to maintain contact with their
sideline members and vice versa. (A related point: Why not even have an area
for the team to be in (a dug-out?) in the middle of the sideline area?)

Solution: mark a spectator line 5 or so metres from the sideline on the
pitch on which the final will be played. Then everyone will be able to see
the pitch and it will be better and safer.

Thanks to everyone for there support at the weekend and sorry about the
rant. Just thought I'd better say it while it was on my mind.

Rodders (Pete)
Chevron #44

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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-&nbsp;I=20
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space!?).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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Players are restricted from&nbsp;throwing discs which go&nbsp;out and =
then back=20
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have to be=20
extremely high. Imagine that&nbsp;someone&nbsp;is breaking long, and =
you,=20
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ideally make=20
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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size=3D2>Solution: mark a spectator line 5 or so metres from the =
sideline on the=20
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see the=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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Maybe a small rope fence like the one used to mark the camping area =
would be a more visible restraint. It only needs to be erected just =
before the final. People will always want the best view and with such =
spectacular action like the game at the weekend who can blame them.
=20
Looking forward to more spectacular stuff.
=20
Tom Styles
=20
Flyght Club (outdoors)
Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers (indoors)=20
tom@block-stack.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: The Wrights [mailto:coldbeck@freeuk.com]
Sent: 15 April 2002 09:42
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: sidelines


Hello,
=20
Obviously we (Chevron) haven't got much to complain about after the =
weekend. There is one thing, though, which something needs to be done =
about. The spectators (who, I should add, were fantastic in their =
support) really were far too close to the sideline. There was even an =
incident with a chair and a clapham lad which should never have =
happened. There are (at least) 3 good reasons for keeping the spectators =
clear of the sideline.
=20
1. Less chance of incidents (like the chair one) caused either by the =
player's momentum, or his/her laying out (e.g. worlds greatest - I =
wonder how many more we'd see if there was more space!?).
=20
2. Players are restricted from throwing discs which go out and then back =
in (normally roll curves) . To do this at present, the release would =
have to be extremely high. Imagine that someone is breaking long, and =
you, trapped on the sideline, want to throw to him. The throw you would =
ideally make would (when the spectators are as they were yesterday) have =
to go through about 5 people at least. This is outdoors, and one of the =
great things about outdoors is that there are no walls. Why feel the =
need to construct one out of people?
=20
3. It makes it easier for the team playing to maintain contact with =
their sideline members and vice versa. (A related point: Why not even =
have an area for the team to be in (a dug-out?) in the middle of the =
sideline area?)
=20
Solution: mark a spectator line 5 or so metres from the sideline on the =
pitch on which the final will be played. Then everyone will be able to =
see the pitch and it will be better and safer.
=20
Thanks to everyone for there support at the weekend and sorry about the =
rant. Just thought I'd better say it while it was on my mind.
=20
Rodders (Pete)
Chevron #44


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Maybe=20
a small rope fence like the one used to mark the camping area would be a =
more=20
visible restraint. It only needs to be erected just before the=20
final.&nbsp;People will always want the best view and with such =
spectacular=20
action like the game at the weekend who can blame =
them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Looking forward to more spectacular stuff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Tom=20
Styles</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Flyght=20
Club (outdoors)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Block=20
Stack and Two Smoking Hammers (indoors)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D114300209-15042002>&nbsp;</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D114300209-15042002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:tom@block-stack.co.uk">tom@block-stack.co.uk</A></FONT></S=
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<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> The Wrights=20
  [mailto:coldbeck@freeuk.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 15 April 2002 =
09:42<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
sidelines<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Hello,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Obviously&nbsp;we (Chevron)&nbsp;haven't got much to complain =
about=20
  after the weekend. There is one thing, though, which something needs =
to be=20
  done about. The spectators (who, I should add,&nbsp;were fantastic in =
their=20
  support) really were far too close to the sideline. There was even an =
incident=20
  with a chair and a clapham lad which should never have happened. There =
are (at=20
  least) 3 good reasons for keeping the spectators clear of the=20
  sideline.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>1.=20
  Less chance of incidents (like the chair one) caused either by the=20
  player's&nbsp;momentum, or his/her laying out (e.g. worlds greatest =
-&nbsp;I=20
  wonder how many more we'd see if there was more =
space!?).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>2.=20
  Players are restricted from&nbsp;throwing discs which go&nbsp;out and =
then=20
  back in (normally roll curves) . To do this at present, the release =
would have=20
  to be extremely high. Imagine that&nbsp;someone&nbsp;is breaking long, =
and=20
  you, trapped on the sideline, want to throw to him. The throw you =
would=20
  ideally make would (when the spectators are as they were yesterday) =
have to go=20
  through about 5 people at least. This is outdoors, and one of the =
great things=20
  about outdoors is that there are no walls. Why feel the need to =
construct one=20
  out of people?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>3.=20
  It makes it easier for the team playing to maintain contact with their =

  sideline members and vice versa. (A related point: Why not even have =
an area=20
  for the team to be in (a dug-out?) in the middle of the sideline=20
  area?)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Solution: mark a spectator line 5 or so metres from the =
sideline on the=20
  pitch on which the final will be played. Then everyone will be able to =
see the=20
  pitch and it will be better and safer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Thanks to everyone for there support at the weekend and sorry =
about the=20
  rant. Just thought I'd better say it while it was on my=20
  mind.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Rodders (Pete)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D520361808-15042002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Chevron #44</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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<P>Dear Britdisc&nbsp;- From Larry Larkin regarding the latest in Summer League action</P>
<P>I spoke to a few people about starting a summer league in Leeds at the week-end.... It's going to be on a Tuesday evening starting @ 6-6.30 (depending on light) and I am going to try and make it co-ed (ideally 2 chics per team). It's going to be for Leeds and people who can get to Leeds e.g Sheffield, York, Manchester + Harrogate?! To keep it to a fairly high standard we are only taking people who have been playing for a competitive season. Can u all let me know by sending a mail to my hotmail accout just saying interested inthe subject field (and anything else you feel may be amusing) to: </P>
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Although I was one of the many offenders at the final this weekend 
I am in total agreement with Rodders.

By taking everyone back a few feet/metres not only will it be 
possible to play along the lines better but it would give a lot more 
spectators a 'front row' position from which to view the game. It 
would also enable the action in the corners of the pitch to be seen 
without spectators along the side-line walking onto the pitch to get 
a good view and blocking those further along the side-line from 
seeing anything at all.

I'd also just like to thank Adam and Matt for organising and running 
such a big event and congratulate Chevron and Clapham for playing 
a great final.

Well done Chevron!!

Tony
(Swivel)

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Rodders wrote:

>(A related point: Why not even have an area for the team to be in (a 
> >dug-out?) in the middle of the sideline area?)

I think this is a good idea but we still need to have a few metres of space 
for the sideline team members to be able to walk up and down to shout at 
their team mates for being slack on D or whatever.
If for nothing else than the safety issue. The line was so faint at the w/e 
due to whatever reason that spectators were actually on the pitch for most 
of the game.


>Solution: mark a spectator line 5 or so metres from the sideline on the
>pitch on which the final will be played. Then everyone will be able to >see 
>the pitch and it will be better and safer.

Why don't we just start doing this from now on?

Adam
Chevron

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>From the Rules linked from the UKU site:

402.06 Restraining Line: A restraining line shall be established 5 m from 
the playing field to ensure that the sidelines remain clear during play.

Whilst the problem is most blatant for the final (most spectators) it does 
happen in all the games. In one of the games there were even people using 
part of the pitch as some sort of practise for keeping their feet in play 
whilst cathing until the players on the team I beleive they were 
'supporting' told them to go and find another line!

I should find out tomorrow night if the tourny I'm running on the 3rd/4th 
August will be able to go ahead and will certainly be requesting a line of 
some sort - 5 metres perhaps is a little excessive?

Angie
(SkuMy, Skunks)

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Last chance to get into DHB's first ever tournament here in Bournemouth.

I've got 6 teams interested. Just need another 6 teams to make this a goer. 
You'll be getting a great venue and facilities, outdoor party, free camping, 
good weather and all day music.

Haven't really finalised the format yet, but with 12 teams, we'll have loads 
of options, maybe adding a Sunday handicap that depends on how you do in the 
beer race or how late you stay up at the party. Who knows - should be a 
laugh though.

Will
Druids/DHB


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over the past week or so your teamates have suggested that your would be at
the Nottingham Mixed event in two weeks.  I need to know asap what the
situation is, if your team still wish to be included.

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From: "Will Parker" <willparker77@hotmail.com>
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Sorry, forgot to mention that if anyone wants to come along but doesn't 
reckon they can get together a team /find a team - I've had several requests 
for pickups (including some guys coming over from the US) so it shouldn't be 
too difficult to get a couple of pickup teams together. Nice.

Will
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Subject: Looking for a Talampaya Team
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Hi,

We are three US players that will be in Geneva for the Talampaya Coed
Challange. All three of us are experienced players (Worlds, Europeans,
US Nationals) and we are looking for a competititve team that we can
pick up with.

/petter

PS: 2 guys, 1 woman


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Dear All

Thanks for coming to Tour 1 - the LARGEST domestic outdoor tournament in =
Britain EVER!!!! Hope you all enjoyed it.

Apologies again for the lack of medical cover (physios), my (Adam) fault =
entirely and a lack I won't allow again.

Lost property is being handled seperately by Matt. Please mail him with =
any items you may have lost at matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk .

Womens Tour 1 Results

  1.. Princess Layout
  2.. Mavis
  3.. Janet Hawes - Spirit Winners
  4.. Divalution
  5.. Jane Doe
Open Tour 1 Results
  1.. Chevron Action Flash    250
  2.. Clapham 1                   230
  3.. Fluid Druids                 222  =20
  4.. Un Poco Loco              210
  5.. Clapham 2                   205
  6.. BAF 1                         190
  7.. TeamShark                  181
  8.. Smash & Grab             170
  9.. Whey                          160        one of 3 teams to hold =
their seeding
  10.. Red 1                          150
  11.. LeedsLeedsLeeds        141
  12.. Hamerage 1                 130
  13.. Fusion                         125        Plate 1 Winners
  14.. Headrush 1                  110
  15.. Strange Blue                101        one of 3 teams to hold =
their seeding
  16.. Atomic Horse                90
  17.. STD                              81        Spirit Winners=20
  18.. Bad Habits                    77
  19.. Chevron Coed                74
  20.. Skunks                         71
  21.. Mud Culture                  69         Plate 2 Winners
  22.. Revolution                     66
  23.. Hammerage 2                63        The equal most improved team =
from seeding - 20 places
  24.. Flyght Club 2                 60        The equal most improved =
team from seeding - 20 places
  25.. Flyght Club 1                 57
  26.. Martie McFly                 54
  27.. Slipdisc 1                      51
  28.. Swivel                           49
  29.. Butt (normally Bliss)       46         Plate 3 Winners
  30.. BAF 2                           43
  31.. Headrush 2                    40
  32.. Red 2                            37
  33.. Kamaya Maya                34
  34.. Sublime                         31
  35.. JB7                               29
  36.. Mohawk Mwnci Magic     26
  37.. Rats of Nimh                  23          Spoon Winners
  38.. Trigger Happy                 20
  39.. Albatross                       17
  40.. Shooting Project             14          The team who dropped the =
most places - 20
  41.. North South Divide          11
  42.. Slipdisc 2                        9
  43.. Mute                               6
  44.. Pyramus & Frisbee          3

MVP of the final - Pete Harvey

Congratulations to Chevron on their first Tour win - may it be the first =
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Their are still places at Tour 2 so get your entry in NOW!!!!!!

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LARGEST domestic=20
outdoor tournament in Britain EVER!!!! Hope you all enjoyed =
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Apologies again for the lack of medical =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lost property is being handled =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><U>Womens Tour 1=20
Results</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<OL>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Princess Layout</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mavis</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janet Hawes - Spirit =
Winners</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Divalution</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jane Doe</FONT></LI></OL>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><U>Open Tour 1=20
Results</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<OL>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chevron Action Flash&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  250</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clapham=20
  =
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;230</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fluid Druids&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;222&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Un Poco Loco&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 210</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Clapham=20
  =
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;205</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BAF 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 190</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TeamShark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 181</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Smash &amp; Grab&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 170</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>Whey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;160&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  one of 3 teams to hold their seeding</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red=20
  =
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;150</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>LeedsLeedsLeeds&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 141</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hamerage 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 130</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fusion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 125&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Plate 1=20
  Winners</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Headrush=20
  =
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;110</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Strange Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  101&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; one of 3 teams to hold =
their=20
  seeding</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Atomic=20
  =
Horse&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  90</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>STD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 81&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Spirit=20
  Winners </FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bad Habits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
77</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chevron Coed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 74</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Skunks&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 71</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mud=20
  =
Culture&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;69&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Plate 2 Winners</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Revolution&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
66</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hammerage=20
  =
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  63&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The equal most improved team =
from=20
  seeding - 20 places</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Flyght Club 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  60&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The equal most =
improved team=20
  from seeding - 20 places</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Flyght Club 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 57</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Martie McFly&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 54</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Slipdisc=20
  =
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;51</FONT></LI=
>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>Swivel&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;49</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Butt (normally=20
  Bliss)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 46&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Plate&nbsp;3 Winners</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BAF=20
  =
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;43</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Headrush 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
40</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 37</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kamaya Maya&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 34</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sublime&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 31</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>JB7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;29</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mohawk Mwnci =
Magic&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  26</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rats of Nimh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Spoon=20
  Winners</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Trigger Happy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 20</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>Albatross&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;17</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Shooting=20
  =
Project&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;The=20
  team who dropped the most places - 20</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>North South=20
  =
Divide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;11</FON=
T></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Slipdisc=20
  =
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  9</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mute&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6</FONT></LI>
  <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pyramus &amp;=20
  Frisbee&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
3</FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></LI></OL>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MVP of the final - Pete =
Harvey</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Congratulations to Chevron on their =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Their are still places at Tour 2 so get =

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Again, thanks for coming</FONT></DIV>
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I managed to take a few pictures at the weekend.  Mainly of the 
Clapham/Chevy final.  Follow this link to have a look:-

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The winner of the Spot The Hack competition in Ultimatum2001 is Dan Steward
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The hack was actually in B4, Dan, who guessed B7 was the closest entry by
miles =AD well done Dan, a new pair of Gaia boots will be on their way to you
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I realise that this is fairly early but we wanted to get in there with this
weekend before anyone else does!

Slipdisc would like to invite everyone to their 'Brumii Five O 2002' Charity
tournament on the weekend of the 10th/11th of August.

If you're not going to Hawaii, then come to Brumii and put this one in your
diary.

The venue is Aston University sports pitches, right off junction 7 of the M6.
Extremely easy to get to, Birmingham is the centre of the Country n'all.  (Sorry
Scotland, it's still really far for you!)

There will be enough space for up to 24 teams, so we are hoping for a really
good turn out and a high standard of competition, as well as having a good
laugh.  All levels of teams are welcome, the format will be similar to a Tour 1
event, with teams being seeded according to their achievements later in this
season but anyone will be able to win it regardless of where they are initially
seeded.

There will be camping on-site, party on Saturday with Bar-B-Q, bar on-site open
all day 'til midnight, food available all day, the promise of hot showers and
plenty of other stuff to do (details to be worked out).

The event will be raising money for the BBC's Sport Relief campaign, Slipdisc
will donate a sum (dependant on how many teams enter) to charity for EVERY point
scored in the tournament.  So, each time you catch the disc in the zone you will
have done your bit for charity this year!  But if you drop it, think of all the
starving kids you will have let down!  There will be a prize to the team who
raise the most money, by scoring the most points in the tournament.  Other fund
raising events will also be organised throughout the weekend, so bring your
coppers!

A web address with full details will be available soon, I shall let you all
know.

The entry price will be a very reasonable £85 per team.  If necessary we will
put together one or two pick-up teams and charge £8/£9 per player to enter
(provided there are at least 9 or 10 individuals interested in making up a
team), this will depend on how many proper teams wish to enter.

So, book your place early to avoid disappointment, send a cheque payable to
Slipdisc to:

Simon Statham
37 York Street
Harborne
Birmingham
B17 0HG

Please indicate your team name and an e-mail contact address, along with your
cheque.

I will send out Britdisc reminders in the coming weeks, as I realise that this
is a bit far ahead for some teams to get themselves organised!

Cheers

Si.




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Hi All

Did anyone find a Canon powershot s40 camera at the weekend.?
It was lost between the marquee and the car park.
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>There are still places at Tour 2 so get your entry in NOW!!!!!!
 
Surely there's no hurry? Everyone should be aware of
http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/tour2002rules.htm
<http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/tour2002rules.htm>  which say:
"Distribution of places 

1.	When a club is hosting an event they are given two automatic places
(but must still meet the entry deadlines). 

2.	Teams ranked 1-21 at the previous event are guaranteed a place
(provided that they meet the entry deadlines). 

3.	Remaining places are allocated initially to teams who were refused
entry to the previous event through relegation or over-subscription, and
then to teams based on finishing position from the previous event. 

4.	Once the entry deadline has passed, any unfilled places at the
tournament are available to filled by the TD, to any team wishing to enter."

Which means that so long as teams meet the deadline specified by Kev (3rd
May) teams will be allocated places according to where they finished on
Sunday, NOT how quickly they get their cheques in. It's going to take some
waiting list management over the season and really everyone could do with
knowing the size of the waiting list and capacity of the next Tour event so
that teams know where the relegation places begin at each Tour event.
 
eg - 4 women's team enter Tour 2 so Kev has room for 36 open teams. All top
36 from Tour 1 enter and according to the rules are allowed in, whether or
not other teams get cheques in faster. Let's say the 8 teams 37->44 also
enter Tour 2 but are denied entry due to capacity constraints. They go on
the waiting list (presumably in the order of finishing Tour 1, although the
rules aren't clear). Now let's say Tour 3 is also 36 team capacity: the top
21 from Tour 2 automatically get in, as do the 8 on the waiting list -
leaving 7 slots for teams that place 22-28 in Tour 2. The bottom 8 teams
from Tour 2 will therefore all be relegated to the waiting list and will
have to wait until Tour 4 to get back in. However, if Red 2 finished lower
than 28th at Tour 2, because Red are running Tour 3 they get two slots at
Tour 3 - so the team placing 28th would be relegated as well.
 
Should bring a bit of bite to more of those play-off games at Tour 2 anyway!

 
And well done Chevvy for giving one half of Clapham such a great game on
Sunday. Bodes well for a more competitive season in the Top 8 than last year
and better preparation for us all for Hawaii. Bring on Tour 2 :-)
 
rt
cu#1

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]
Sent: 16 April 2002 12:01
To: britdisc
Subject: Tour 1 Results


Dear All
 
Thanks for coming to Tour 1 - the LARGEST domestic outdoor tournament in
Britain EVER!!!! Hope you all enjoyed it.
 
Apologies again for the lack of medical cover (physios), my (Adam) fault
entirely and a lack I won't allow again.
 
Lost property is being handled seperately by Matt. Please mail him with any
items you may have lost at matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk
<mailto:matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk>  .
 
Womens Tour 1 Results
 

1.	Princess Layout 

2.	Mavis 

3.	Janet Hawes - Spirit Winners 

4.	Divalution 

5.	Jane Doe

Open Tour 1 Results

1.	Chevron Action Flash    250 

2.	Clapham 1                   230 

3.	Fluid Druids                 222   

4.	Un Poco Loco              210 

5.	Clapham 2                   205 

6.	BAF 1                         190 

7.	TeamShark                  181 

8.	Smash & Grab             170 

9.	Whey                          160        one of 3 teams to hold
their seeding 

10.	Red 1                          150 

11.	LeedsLeedsLeeds        141 

12.	Hamerage 1                 130 

13.	Fusion                         125        Plate 1 Winners 

14.	Headrush 1                  110 

15.	Strange Blue                101        one of 3 teams to hold their
seeding 

16.	Atomic Horse                90 

17.	STD                              81        Spirit Winners 

18.	Bad Habits                    77 

19.	Chevron Coed                74 

20.	Skunks                         71 

21.	Mud Culture                  69         Plate 2 Winners 

22.	Revolution                     66 

23.	Hammerage 2                63        The equal most improved team
from seeding - 20 places 

24.	Flyght Club 2                 60        The equal most improved team
from seeding - 20 places 

25.	Flyght Club 1                 57 

26.	Martie McFly                 54 

27.	Slipdisc 1                      51 

28.	Swivel                           49 

29.	Butt (normally Bliss)       46         Plate 3 Winners 

30.	BAF 2                           43 

31.	Headrush 2                    40 

32.	Red 2                            37 

33.	Kamaya Maya                34 

34.	Sublime                         31 

35.	JB7                               29 

36.	Mohawk Mwnci Magic     26 

37.	Rats of Nimh                  23          Spoon Winners 

38.	Trigger Happy                 20 

39.	Albatross                       17 

40.	Shooting Project             14          The team who dropped the
most places - 20 

41.	North South Divide          11 

42.	Slipdisc 2                        9 

43.	Mute                               6 

44.	Pyramus & Frisbee          3

 
MVP of the final - Pete Harvey
 
Congratulations to Chevron on their first Tour win - may it be the first of
many;-)
 
Their are still places at Tour 2 so get your entry in NOW!!!!!!
 
Again, thanks for coming
 
Adam & Matt      




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<DIV><SPAN class=562192416-16042002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Surely there's no 
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<OL>
  <LI><FONT size=2>When a club is hosting an event they are given two automatic 
  places (but must still meet the entry deadlines). </FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2>Teams ranked 1-21 at the previous event are guaranteed a 
  place (provided that they meet the entry deadlines). </FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2>Remaining places are allocated initially to teams who were 
  refused entry to the previous event through relegation or over-subscription, 
  and then to teams based on finishing position from the previous event. </FONT>
  <LI><FONT size=2>Once the entry deadline has passed, any unfilled places at 
  the tournament are available to filled by the TD, to any team wishing to 
  enter.<SPAN class=562192416-16042002>"</SPAN></FONT></LI></OL>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002>Which means that so long as 
teams meet the deadline specified by Kev (3rd May) teams will be allocated 
places according to where they finished on Sunday, NOT how quickly they get 
their cheques in. </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002>It's 
going to take some waiting list management over the season and 
really&nbsp;everyone could do with knowing the size of the waiting list and 
capacity of the next Tour event so that&nbsp;teams&nbsp;know where the 
relegation places begin at each Tour event.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002>eg - 4 women's team enter Tour 
2 so Kev has room for 36 open teams. All top 36 from Tour 1 enter and according 
to the rules are allowed in, whether or not other teams get cheques in faster. 
Let's say the 8 teams 37-&gt;44 also enter Tour&nbsp;2 but are denied entry due 
to capacity constraints. They go on the waiting list (presumably in the order of 
finishing Tour 1, although the rules aren't clear). Now let's say Tour 3 is also 
36 team capacity: the top 21 from Tour 2 automatically get in, as do the 8 on 
the waiting list - leaving 7 slots for teams that place 22-28 in Tour&nbsp;2. 
The bottom 8 teams from Tour&nbsp;2&nbsp;will therefore all&nbsp;be relegated to 
the waiting list and will have to wait until Tour 4 to get back in. However, if 
Red 2 finished lower than 28th at Tour 2, because Red are running Tour 3 they 
get two slots at Tour 3 -&nbsp;so the team placing 28th would be relegated as 
well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002>Should bring a bit of bite 
to&nbsp;more of those play-off games&nbsp;at Tour 2 
anyway!&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002></SPAN></FONT><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=562192416-16042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002>And well done Chevvy for giving 
one half of&nbsp;Clapham such a great game on Sunday. Bodes well for a more 
competitive season in the Top 8 than last year and better preparation for us all 
for Hawaii. Bring on Tour 2&nbsp;:-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=562192416-16042002>rt</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Adam Batchelor 
  [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 16 April 2002 
  12:01<BR><B>To:</B> britdisc<BR><B>Subject:</B> Tour 1 
  Results<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear All</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for coming to Tour 1 - the LARGEST 
  domestic outdoor tournament in Britain EVER!!!! Hope you all enjoyed 
  it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Apologies again for the lack of medical cover 
  (physios), my (Adam) fault entirely and a lack I won't allow 
  again.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lost property is being handled seperately by 
  Matt. Please mail him with any items you may have lost at <A 
  href="mailto:matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk">matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk</A> 
  .</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG><U>Womens Tour 1 
  Results</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <OL>
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Princess Layout</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mavis</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Janet Hawes - Spirit Winners</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Divalution</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jane Doe</FONT></LI></OL>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG><U>Open Tour 1 
  Results</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
  <OL>
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chevron Action Flash&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    250</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clapham 
    1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;230</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fluid Druids&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;222&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Un Poco Loco&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 210</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clapham 
    2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;205</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>BAF 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 190</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>TeamShark&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 181</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Smash &amp; Grab&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 170</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2>Whey&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;160&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    one of 3 teams to hold their seeding</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Red 
    1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;150</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>LeedsLeedsLeeds&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 141</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hamerage 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 130</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fusion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 125&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Plate 1 
    Winners</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Headrush 
    1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;110</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Strange Blue&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    101&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; one of 3 teams to hold their 
    seeding</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Atomic 
    Horse&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    90</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>STD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 81&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Spirit Winners </FONT>
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bad Habits&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 77</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chevron Coed&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 74</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Skunks&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 71</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mud 
    Culture&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;69&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Plate 2 Winners</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Revolution&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 66</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hammerage 
    2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    63&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The equal most improved team from 
    seeding - 20 places</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Flyght Club 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    60&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The equal most improved 
    team from seeding - 20 places</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Flyght Club 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 57</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Martie McFly&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 54</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Slipdisc 
    1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;51</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2>Swivel&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;49</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Butt (normally 
    Bliss)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 46&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Plate&nbsp;3 Winners</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>BAF 
    2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;43</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Headrush 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 40</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Red 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 37</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kamaya Maya&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 34</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sublime&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 31</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2>JB7&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;29</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mohawk Mwnci Magic&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    26</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rats of Nimh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    23&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Spoon 
    Winners</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Trigger Happy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 20</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2>Albatross&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;17</FONT> 

    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Shooting 
    Project&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;14&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The 
    team who dropped the most places - 20</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>North South 
    Divide&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;11</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Slipdisc 
    2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    9</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mute&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6</FONT> 
    <LI><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pyramus &amp; 
    Frisbee&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3</FONT><FONT 
    face=Arial size=2></FONT></LI></OL>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>MVP of the final - Pete Harvey</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Congratulations to Chevron on their first Tour 
  win - may it be the first of many;-)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Their are still places at Tour 2 so get 
  your&nbsp;entry in NOW!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Again, thanks for coming</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi All,

We are trying to gauge interest for London League
basic/intermediate/throwing skills clinics.  Several (maybe 6?)
such clinics would be held over the course of the summer. The idea
is to expose more Londoners to the basics of the sport, and
eventually fuel an expansion in London League. <cheers!><applause!>

Do you have a friend, work colleague, flatmate, or family member
who seems intrigued with the idea of a frisbee-based team sport? 
The skills clinic would be an ideal way for them to learn more!
Please ask them to email me as we are trying to determine the
number of people who might be interested. 

Lastly, we are looking for lots of people to help out during the
clinic and pickup game, which would either be on a weekday evening
or on Sunday.  If you would like to do a bit of easy teaching for
one clinic please also drop me an email.

Peas,
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From: "jayne cresey" <jayne_cresey@hotmail.com>
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<P>hi there</P>
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From: "Pete Harvey" <harvey@backspin.co.uk>
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********* NEWS FLASH ********* BRITOPEN2002 ********* NEWS FLASH
*********

Because we want you to party, DJs Rob Orton and Devin Coode have been
secured for Saturday 1st June and Sunday 2nd June respectively.

Incredibly, Rob is flying in from a season in Ibiza specially for this
event!!! (Contacts eh?)

Devin Has supported the likes of Boy George and does a lot of one-off
nights all over the UK

Negotiations are also currently underway with a live band for one of the
nights. You can check the site (www.britopen.co.uk) for developments.

********* NEWS FLASH ********* BRITOPEN2002 ********* NEWS FLASH
*********

We are receiving interest from Holland, Spain and Ireland at the moment
and are discussing sponsored transportation to collect overseas players
from airports, ports, stations etc. so that this is a truly
international event

************************************************************************
**

Sign up for this event now. We're aiming high, but can only succeed if
you help, and we have enough teams to cover the cost of a little
ambition.

Go to www.britopen.co.uk - You can even pay by credit card online on our
secure server, buying you not only three days of fun in June but also a
little time to collect cash from your team-mates - what could be easier?

************************************************************************
**

BritOpen 2002 - 1-3 June 20002 Eastbourne Sports Park - Eastbourne UK



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Hi Britdisc,

Results from last weekend's tournament in Bristol have been published and 
archived on the OB Megazine website.
http://www.obmegazine.com/resultsbristol2002.htm

Well done to Bristol Acers for a well run tournament.

 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Next Tournament
BDGA British Open sponsored by Discology and Discraft.
Isle of Mull, Scotland, 3-5 May
Visit the event website for more information www.discgolf.co.uk/open

As well as hosting one of the most prestigious tournaments on the BDGA 
calendar, the course on the Isle of Mull is also celebrating its 10th 
Anniversary.
On top of this, the occasion and all the best action will be captured by 
the cameras from DISC TV.

Last and certainly not least, this will be Sammy Neilsen's last golf 
tournament before heading off to the Land Of The Long White Cloud.
He returns to Mull as the reigning Champion,  a title he won in 2000.
Sammy is one of Britain's greatest ever disc players - be it Ultimate, 
Golf, DDC, Guts or whatever.

Mull is always such a special tournament, and this year's promises to be 
even more so.

Thanks.

Richard Sampson
Communications
BDGA  # 74






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Does anyone have the final results from the Savage 7s tournament
last December?  I'm curious how it ended up since we had to leave
before the finish and I didn't hear a word about it afterwards on britdisc.

Apologies for asking about it so far after the event but for some reason
I had loads of people asking me about it in Bristol.

Thanks
Steve
Flyght Club

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sorry to have to send this out on britdisk and spam up anyones =
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could you please ring me on 07813106288

cheers

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> Tue, 26 Mar 2002, by UK Ultimate Diary Manager
> Subject: UK Ultimate Events Reminder

was the last one I can find in my mailbox.

Is this due to be posted on a regular basis?

Or should we be checking out the website - in which case would it be
possible to receive some kind of alert letting us know if/when the
website is updated?

Just wondering.
Wayne



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So, I've been checking out the results against the original seedings,
and my memories of the weekend, and I've got some questions, mostly
about the upper levels of the event:

Chevron Action Flash beat Clapham 1 in the Final. I can't resist a small
smile. A great game to watch, with two huge team performances and
several sizeable individual contributions. Those Clapham boys don't like
to be beaten, and will be aiming to do something about it. The Chevron
boys will be out to prove it's not a one-off occurrence. The future
Clapham v Chevvy matches are going to be fun!

Un Poco Loco finished 4th to Fluid Druids. But how did Poco get to the
3/4 playoff from their seeding of 14? 'Tis known that Poco won Pool C
ahead of LeedsLeedsLeeds (seed 3). I have memories of a rumour that the
scoreline showed a walkover!? Could someone please confirm?

Having been displaced to 14, LLL finished the tournament at 11th. We're
aware that they're not as strong as last year, but how not-so-strong?
There's good odds on them getting a shot at revenge at Tour 2 down in
Exeter. I wonder how much the Double Locks will affect their chances?

I saw many a sly smile when realisation dawned that Clapham 1 would play
Clapham 2 in the Quarter Finals. Apparently the game was quite close - I
heard 15-12? could someone confirm? but went to seeding. Clapham 2
subsequently finished as high as possible thereafter, but I hear that
TeamShark had a fair go at them on the way. Does anyone please have any
details to tell on that one?

Smash & Grab (11) have worked their up to 8th, and Fusion (6) took the
Plate for 13th. I'm reasoning that this exchange of positions commenced
in their Pool F game - could anyone enlighten me further, please? I also
calculate that Smash met Poco, but Poco were victorious. What was the
scorline here?


That's enough from me, tho' I'd welcome some feedback.

Wayne
Fluid Druids

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Is there any word on entry fees (even an estimate will do!) for:
 Tour 3 @ Banbury 
 Tour 4 @ Leeds

Thanks,

Wayne
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Wed, 17 Apr 2002, by Roger Thomson <mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>;
 Subject: Tour 1 Results
>    >There are still places at Tour 2 so get your entry in NOW!!!!!!
>     
>    Surely there's no hurry?

But surely, the sooner everyone actually sends in their entry and
cheque, the sooner we'll know which team will be excluded due to
capacity, no?

And the less likely anyone will be to fall foul of a postal service
error. (Imagine the hullaballoo if cheques went missing in the post only
two days before the deadline - it'd be too late to send another and the
team may not be permitted to enter!)

It might even be possible that we could be emailed captains meeting
notes and see a finalised schedule several days before the tournament!?

Wayne
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Hi,

I did actually post something after the event, though it was hardly the most
comprehensive list of results put together.  Essentially, it was like this:

Clapham 1 beat Toast something like 14-11 in a very well fought final.
Losing Semi Finalists were:
Chevy (to Toast)
Druids (to Clapham 1).

there were no other games for 'places', as it was a 3 groups of 4 affair
with the winners going through plus the best 2nd place team (Toast).  Who
were Toast?  Would I be right in calling them a Leeds-based super outfit?
They were certainly an impressive team who dismantled the seedings.

hope thats helpful.

Simon
hammerage

ps:  all this talk of savage 7s has set thoughts of this years event in
motion...watch this space!

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> Does anyone have the final results from the Savage 7s tournament
> last December?  I'm curious how it ended up since we had to leave
> before the finish and I didn't hear a word about it afterwards on
britdisc.
>
> Apologies for asking about it so far after the event but for some reason
> I had loads of people asking me about it in Bristol.
>
> Thanks
> Steve
> Flyght Club

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Hi BD

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Wayne, just to fill in a few gaps
Poco Loco beat LLL to 1 before LLL remembered how to play on Sunday losing a
tough game to Teamshark in sudden death. Teamshark went from 6-2 down to
13-13 against Clapham before losing 15-13.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 17 April 2002 20:02
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Tour 1 Results



So, I've been checking out the results against the original seedings,
and my memories of the weekend, and I've got some questions, mostly
about the upper levels of the event:

Chevron Action Flash beat Clapham 1 in the Final. I can't resist a small
smile. A great game to watch, with two huge team performances and
several sizeable individual contributions. Those Clapham boys don't like
to be beaten, and will be aiming to do something about it. The Chevron
boys will be out to prove it's not a one-off occurrence. The future
Clapham v Chevvy matches are going to be fun!

Un Poco Loco finished 4th to Fluid Druids. But how did Poco get to the
3/4 playoff from their seeding of 14? 'Tis known that Poco won Pool C
ahead of LeedsLeedsLeeds (seed 3). I have memories of a rumour that the
scoreline showed a walkover!? Could someone please confirm?

Having been displaced to 14, LLL finished the tournament at 11th. We're
aware that they're not as strong as last year, but how not-so-strong?
There's good odds on them getting a shot at revenge at Tour 2 down in
Exeter. I wonder how much the Double Locks will affect their chances?

I saw many a sly smile when realisation dawned that Clapham 1 would play
Clapham 2 in the Quarter Finals. Apparently the game was quite close - I
heard 15-12? could someone confirm? but went to seeding. Clapham 2
subsequently finished as high as possible thereafter, but I hear that
TeamShark had a fair go at them on the way. Does anyone please have any
details to tell on that one?

Smash & Grab (11) have worked their up to 8th, and Fusion (6) took the
Plate for 13th. I'm reasoning that this exchange of positions commenced
in their Pool F game - could anyone enlighten me further, please? I also
calculate that Smash met Poco, but Poco were victorious. What was the
scorline here?


That's enough from me, tho' I'd welcome some feedback.

Wayne
Fluid Druids

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>But surely, the sooner everyone actually sends in their entry and
>cheque, the sooner we'll know which team will be excluded due to
>capacity, no?

No, because Kev is still obliged to accept entries that arrive on May 3rd,
so nothing is final until then. Anyway, of course you're right that it's
better for entries to get there sooner - I was more reacting to Adam's
implication that entering NOW would increase the chances of teams getting
into the tournament; and was doing my civic duty in pointing out the Tour
rules on distribution of places so that teams understood the implications of
relegation, could plan their seasons accordingly and knew which games it was
important to win at Tour 2. 

There seem to be 2 slight problems with the current set up:
1/ As the deadline for Tour 1 is Friday May 3rd it seems likely that teams
won't find out whether their entries have been accepted until Monday May 6th
at the earliest - only 12 days before the tournament. Is this fair on people
who plan their whole summers around the Tour, have to make travel and
accommodation arrangements, put so much into their sport and look forward to
these events so much? Having earlier deadlines would make some sense as most
teams probably know well in advance which Tours they'd like to enter and can
raise a team for.
2/ Unless the entry deadline for each Tour is before the previous Tour we
won't know how many teams will be relegated and which are the play-off games
that determine it. We're depriving the teams this is relevant to of really
dramatic games that have a real impact on their seasons and condemning them
to a several week wait while they see how many of the teams on the waiting
list want to enter the next Tour. Given the increasingly competitive nature
of UKU Tours right the way through the seedings wouldn't they all rather
know what was at stake when they play those important play-off
games?...(comments from those who it might concern would help....JB7, Mohawk
Mwinci Magic, Rats of Nimh, Trigger Happy - was there a relegation feel
about your last games? If not, would you rather have known that these games
would determine whether you can get into Tour 2?).

Anyway, thought they were worth mentioning as we debate the sense and
practicalities of moving to a more divisional approach. Was anything worth
mentioning decided or discussed at the UKU meeting?

Cheers, sorry to bore you all so early in the day,
RT
cu#1

PS - Yes it was 15-12 Clapham1 vs Clapham2. 
PPS - Yes the Sharks really gave Clapham2 a good game and have really
improved over the winter. We thought they did so well only because Milky was
confined to the sideline injured, so I wouldn't expect them to do so well in
Tour 2 if he's better. 10th place maybe?
PPPS - Remember it's a relatively open practice on Clapham Common tonight @
6.30 pm or so - so come down if you want to play a competitive game and are
a relatively experienced and/or talented player in London. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 17 April 2002 21:13
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Wed, 17 Apr 2002, by Roger Thomson <mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>;
 Subject: Tour 1 Results
>    >There are still places at Tour 2 so get your entry in NOW!!!!!!
>     
>    Surely there's no hurry?

But surely, the sooner everyone actually sends in their entry and
cheque, the sooner we'll know which team will be excluded due to
capacity, no?

And the less likely anyone will be to fall foul of a postal service
error. (Imagine the hullaballoo if cheques went missing in the post only
two days before the deadline - it'd be too late to send another and the
team may not be permitted to enter!)

It might even be possible that we could be emailed captains meeting
notes and see a finalised schedule several days before the tournament!?

Wayne
Fluid Druids
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>(comments from those who it might concern
> would help....JB7, Mohawk
> Mwinci Magic, Rats of Nimh, Trigger Happy - was
> there a relegation feel
> about your last games? 

As far as MMM were concerned, we didn't have enough
fit players to field a team at the end of the tour so
we had to forfeit our last game. However, for future
it would definately be good to know where the
relegation line is (esp. as we got it wrong and
thought we were relegated when we lost our quarter to
Bliss...). Teams and players improve alot more when
games become more competitive and close, regardless of
the level of competition you're playing at, so
relegation knowledge would be great.

Nicole
mohawks/jane doe/shocker/anyone that'll have me

p.s Once again cheers to Adam for a great tour and a
great venue, even if the women's showers were cold and
full of men on the saturday (hey Graham ;-) ). It's
good to see the top of the tour open up again after
Clapham domination.

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Wayne,

>
> Smash & Grab (11) have worked their up to 8th, and Fusion (6) took the
> Plate for 13th. I'm reasoning that this exchange of positions commenced
> in their Pool F game - could anyone enlighten me further, please? I also
> calculate that Smash met Poco, but Poco were victorious. What was the
> scorline here?
>
>

You are quite right, this exchange of positions did indeed start in the pool
play.  Both Fusion and Smash & Grab are changed from last year (only 3 of
Fusions roster are veterans from last year).  The game was a titanic
struggle with Smash & Grab sneaking through in sudden death.

We'll get them next time!

Barry

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http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/thecube


Dave Gardner

598c King Street,, Aberdeen,, , , AB245SQ

Main Email: the_cube_2002@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01224491350

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28 APRIL 2002 (1 DAYS) - SLURREY SLINGERS ONE DAY WONDER

Location: University Of Surrey Guildford - [Indoor Ultimate]



We here at the university of Surrey are holding our 2nd ever tournament.
It is an open, indoor tournament and those of you who came last year will
know that it is just a one day affair.  The price is £35 per team and it is
on the 28th of April.  It was a great day last year and alot of teams
commented on the fact that although it was outdoor season, it was a breath
of fresh air to have a one day tournament.  If anyone is interested, please
let me know.


Stewart Fudge

Main Email: ce81sf@surrey.ac.uk

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04 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT OUTDOORS

Location: TBC - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Please contact Tim with any bids for this event

Tim Blair

Student Co-ordinator, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

Mobile: 07976 800051

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04 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - BRUGES (OVERSEAS)

Location: Bruges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

____________________________________________________________


09 MAY 2002 (4 DAYS) - ROTTERDAM (OVERSEAS)

Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

____________________________________________________________


11 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - BOURNE ON THE 11TH MAY

Location: Bournemouth Sports Club - [Outdoor Ultimate]


So you want to combine ultimate, good music, beer and guaranteed sun?

This is an open invitation to a tournament being held in Bournemouth on the 11th/12th May. 

You'll be playing on quality fields surrounded by woods with excellent facilities and we're gonna be getting in some DJs and bands to help along the atmosphere. We can cope with up to 24 teams, but as there is Rotterdam, and the Who's your Daddy tourny (in Newcastle) on the same weekend, I'm planning for a more intimate 12-16 team tournament - so you'll be playing plenty of teams and getting quality pitch time.

Camping is free and on site. Plans are for a cheap food option available all day. Also, so you don't have to move too far to get to your tents, it'll be an outdoors party (it's always sunny in Bournemouth) with bands and DJs.

I'm also really tempted to do an extra day on the Monday and run a mini beach ultimate tournament at the gorgeous Studland Bay. If you're interested in that, then let me know.

The cost of all this is only 100 quid per team. Please send cheques to William Parker
Flat4, 6 Rushton Crescent, Bournemouth, BH3 7AF


Will 
Druids/DHB Bournemouth/Yo Mama!



William Parker

Flat 4, 6 Rushton Crescent, Bournemouth, , BH3 7AF

Main Email: willparker77@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01202 461829

Work Phone: 01202 404685

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11 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - WHO'S THE DADDY INVITATIONAL

Location: Newcastle - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Entry fee is £65 per team
Spaces available


Sean Hardy

124 Grovenor Road, Jesmond, Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE2 2RQ, 

Main Email: rabbit_shuffler@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: Fil_TheFreaK@hotmail.com

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18 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR II

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Kev Lowe

Main Email: TBA

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01 JUNE 2002 (3 DAYS) - BRITOPEN02

Location: Eastbourne Sports Park - [Outdoor Ultimate]


The British Open makes it's long awaited return at a great new venue, with new surprises in store as ever. More details soon.



http://www.britopen.co.uk


Nolan

BritOpen Admin Office, 3 Wish Road, Eastbourne, East Sussex, BN21 4NX

Main Email: nolan@firebrand.co.uk

Work Phone: 01323 430700

Mobile: 07740084207

Fax: 01323 430223

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08 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED TOUR II

Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


COED TOUR II - WEBSITE TO FOLLOW



ARUN SHARMA

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712583578

____________________________________________________________


22 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR III

Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Bodicote Park hosted Tour 2 in 2001. This year, we'll have more fields, more teams, better food, bigger party. All for the same price. 


Paul"Stig" Unwin

44 Swinegate, Grantham, Lincs, , NG31 6RL

Main Email: punwin@grantham.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01476 577993

Work Phone: you're joking!

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06 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 33 1/3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


As the gods would have it the tour was not to be at southampton this year. A year can not go by without playing on southampton's flat, green, lush fields, and so Skunks are proud to present Tour 33 1/3 - The Unofficial Tour. It will be a fun event where you dont need to roster or stress. Cheap ( hopefully ), good fun, great pitches, what more do you need?


Andrew 'Trig' Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Alternative Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Home Phone: 02380 678866

Work Phone: 01962 815169

Mobile: 07786 384009

____________________________________________________________


13 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) -  CO-ED TOUR III

Location: Titchfield, nr Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


This will be the same excellent venue as Co-ed Nationals last year. All being well, we will also have the accommodation deal with the Holiday Inn again.


Simon Weeks

Main Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

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20 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR IV

Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TOUR IV

SPACE FOR WOMENS DIVISION AS LAST YEAR



ARUN SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, LS6 1DF, 

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712 583578

____________________________________________________________


04 AUGUST 2002 (7 DAYS) - WORLD CLUBS 2002 (OVERSEAS)

Location: Hawaii, USA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

____________________________________________________________


24 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED NATIONALS

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


31 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - UK ULTIMATE OUTDOOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: King Edwards Place, Swindon - [Outdoor Ultimate]


hosted by Layout Dreams.

More details later.

Wayne Retter

8 Avon House, Rutland Close, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 1EH

Main Email: layoutdreams@yahoogroups.com

Home Phone: 01737-218489

Mobile: 07970-903420

____________________________________________________________


07 SEPTEMBER 2002 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY

Location: Glastonbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Glastonbury- as last year!!!


Arun Sharma

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712 583578

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as barry says, smash came from 2 down to beat fusion 7-6 in the titanic
struggle, then got taught a quarter-final lesson by a poco team not short on
confidence.
we then won a tough game against hammerage to stay top 8, before succumbing
to the blue arse pirates and sharks.  

nick 
S&G


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There was no relegation dogfight feel to our last game with Nihm (whether it
turns out that way depends on numbers wanting to go to Exeter I guess).
Anyway I think we were under the wrong impression that the chaff would be
weeded out before T3 and not T2 so we assumed we'd be safe for another tour.


Either way, the main thing, as Roger mentioned, is that we can all plan (and
look fwd) to the summer's tournaments with reasonable confidence. For this
reason I would personally support the idea of a lower division of
competitive ultimate set up under the UKU's wing with yearly promotion and
relegation.
It's fantastic that ultimate's so strong in the UK at the moment but it's
still difficult to find competative tournaments for all levels and I think
we need to address this if we are going to continue to produce new talent.
...just a few (not particularly well informed) points.

Rich.
Trigger Happy
DrugStoreCowboys

ps. great tourny & venue etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Roberts [mailto:maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 18 April 2002 10:28
To: Roger Thomson; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: RE: Tour 1 Results


>(comments from those who it might concern
> would help....JB7, Mohawk
> Mwinci Magic, Rats of Nimh, Trigger Happy - was
> there a relegation feel
> about your last games? 

As far as MMM were concerned, we didn't have enough
fit players to field a team at the end of the tour so
we had to forfeit our last game. However, for future
it would definately be good to know where the
relegation line is (esp. as we got it wrong and
thought we were relegated when we lost our quarter to
Bliss...). Teams and players improve alot more when
games become more competitive and close, regardless of
the level of competition you're playing at, so
relegation knowledge would be great.

Nicole
mohawks/jane doe/shocker/anyone that'll have me

p.s Once again cheers to Adam for a great tour and a
great venue, even if the women's showers were cold and
full of men on the saturday (hey Graham ;-) ). It's
good to see the top of the tour open up again after
Clapham domination.

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Would other people agree that the general spirit and attitude of teams at
the weekend was fantastic?

Ben
Red 10

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Subject: seedings for co-ed tour 1
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There's rumours afoot that the seedings for nottingham
are out, but I haven't seen any (am I being thick??) -
could someone post them up please (sam?)

tah

nicole
shocker

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Hi BD

Discophilia are still looking for lady players for Co-ed (mixed) 1 in 
nottinghamon 27th - 28th April,  Yes thats right you too could be playing for 
the bottom seed, but hay weve played two tournaments and won 2 spirit prizes. 
 So come on in, cos "Ultimates the real winner!"

Fil (the Scraggy one with odd hair)
Discophilia
www.discophilia.4dw.com

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Hi BD

Discophilia are still looking for lady players for Co-ed (mixed) 1 in 
nottinghamon 27th - 28th April,  Yes thats right you too could be playing for 
the bottom seed, but hay weve played two tournaments and won 2 spirit prizes. 
 So come on in, cos "Ultimates the real winner!"

Fil (the Scraggy one with odd hair)
Discophilia
www.discophilia.4dw.com

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Hi BD

Discophilia are still looking for lady players for Co-ed (mixed) 1 in 
nottinghamon 27th - 28th April,  Yes thats right you too could be playing for 
the bottom seed, but hay weve played two tournaments and won 2 spirit prizes. 
 So come on in, cos "Ultimates the real winner!"

Fil (the Scraggy one with odd hair)
Discophilia
www.discophilia.4dw.com

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All,

Hard to comment on seedings wihout knowing who Easy Tiger, Zoo, Maiden
Bungle, Exess Bee (Last Years Strange Blue perhaps?) etc actually are !!

Using the approach that was adopted for the Tour surely the top "few" teams
(say Top 4 or Top 8) should be "based" on results from Mixed Nationals from
last year?

Balti
BAF 34


                                                                                                                      
                    Samuel Rey                                                                                        
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News from the Co-ed is....
20 Teams entered...  Seedings as below (this is the only chance you will
have to disagree seeding/origins)
Schedule will be out next week.


1          Chevron Action Flash           Manchester
2          Wage           South
3          Easy Tiger          South
4          Zoo       London
5          Maiden Bungle       EM +
6          Exess Bee           Ex Camridge
7          BAF       Evesham
8          Cyrille        Ex Leeds +
9          Inbreds        Hull
10         We've Got Guns           Leeds
11         li'l Shef           Sheffield
12         YBK       York
13         Salt n Sauce        Edinburgh
14         Red       Leicester
15         SuperFly       Ex Notts +
16         FlyghtClub          Nottingham
17         Shocker!       Brighton
18         SkuMy          S + SW
19         Martha & Mootones        Oxford
20         Discophilia         South Coast



Sam
nottingham ultimate
914 6254
reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk








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Hi BD

Discophilia are still looking for lady players for Co-ed (mixed) 1 in 
nottinghamon 27th - 28th April,  Yes thats right you too could be playing for 
the bottom seed, but hay weve played two tournaments and won 2 spirit prizes. 
 So come on in, cos "Ultimates the real winner!"

Fil (the Scraggy one with odd hair)
Discophilia
www.discophilia.4dw.com

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Hi BD

Discophilia are still looking for lady players for Co-ed (mixed) 1 in 
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 So come on in, cos "Ultimates the real winner!"

Fil (the Scraggy one with odd hair)
Discophilia
www.discophilia.4dw.com

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Hi BD

Discophilia are still looking for lady players for Co-ed (mixed) 1 in 
nottinghamon 27th - 28th April,  Yes thats right you too could be playing for 
the bottom seed, but hay weve played two tournaments and won 2 spirit prizes. 
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James
Easy Tiger are a combination of Poughkeepsie and KUPA - top 3 is a fair
seeding.
Zoo are the Hammerage co-ed team taken from a large number that come to
Regents Park practices.
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Subject: Re: MIXED (co-ed) Tour 1 - Seedings



All,

Hard to comment on seedings wihout knowing who Easy Tiger, Zoo, Maiden
Bungle, Exess Bee (Last Years Strange Blue perhaps?) etc actually are !!

Using the approach that was adopted for the Tour surely the top "few" teams
(say Top 4 or Top 8) should be "based" on results from Mixed Nationals from
last year?

Balti
BAF 34


 

                    Samuel Rey

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                                               Subject:     MIXED (co-ed)
Tour 1 - Seedings                           
 




News from the Co-ed is....
20 Teams entered...  Seedings as below (this is the only chance you will
have to disagree seeding/origins)
Schedule will be out next week.


1          Chevron Action Flash           Manchester
2          Wage           South
3          Easy Tiger          South
4          Zoo       London
5          Maiden Bungle       EM +
6          Exess Bee           Ex Camridge
7          BAF       Evesham
8          Cyrille        Ex Leeds +
9          Inbreds        Hull
10         We've Got Guns           Leeds
11         li'l Shef           Sheffield
12         YBK       York
13         Salt n Sauce        Edinburgh
14         Red       Leicester
15         SuperFly       Ex Notts +
16         FlyghtClub          Nottingham
17         Shocker!       Brighton
18         SkuMy          S + SW
19         Martha & Mootones        Oxford
20         Discophilia         South Coast



Sam
nottingham ultimate
914 6254
reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk








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Subject: Not the Worlds - 3rd/4th August 2002
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BD,

"Not the Worlds" tournament is now on! Hosted at the Abbey Rugby Club in 
Reading on the weekend of the 3rd/4th August at a mere £70 per team, a 
weekend devoted purely to those of us who are too skint, too scared of 
flights or just too bad to go to Hawaii:

This is what you get for your money:

-Bar which will be open from Friday evening
-Free Camping (two seperate areas - loads of room)
-Up to 5 pitches, so plenty of room for teams
-Saturday night party will have a DJ/live band
-An "extracurricular" competition - hacky volley, ddc, anything else you 
suggest - whatever is most popular
-Food at £10 per player - BBQ and pasta dishes on the Saturday evening and a 
breakfast on Sunday morning
-Hot showers (They've put 120 rugby players through in 30 mins before!)

The only drawback is that there is only one shower room. The shower block 
can have its access reduced to one door so there will have to be a rota for 
the showers (eg 1 hour girls, 1 hour boys). We can only aplogise for this, 
you'll just have to have a beer whilst you're waiting!

Directions can be found on the Abbey website (www.abbeyrfc.org) with a map. 
Emmer Green is the nearest set of shops, just a couple of minutes down the 
road with a small supermarket there (Budgens) or Reading town centre is 10 
minutes away with everything and anything you want. B&B details for anyone 
feeling plush can be supplied on demand, if you've got any queries please 
contact me and I'll do what I can to help you out.

The deadline for cheques to arrive is the end of June as I have to place a 
deposit at that point, if there's room still I will of course extend it. The 
following teams have already expressed an interest -

SkuMy
Smash and Grab
Uriel
Block Stack
Zoo/Hammerage
Chunkey Monkey

Thank you everyone, I look forward to seeing you in sunny Reading in August!

Angie

PS Please send all cheques to:

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D'oh! I knew there would be something I'd miss. The tourny will be a 5:2 
mixed event - of course if any team wants to field more than 2 women I won't 
argue with that.

Cheers,

Angie


I was thinking, why don't you make it 5:2 co-ed ratio so us
girlies get to mark girlies. Teams should always
beable to find a couple of girles, and it'd be more
fun and would guarantee you boys more ################# (deleted at request 
of author!)...

--- Andy Cox <andycox23@hotmail.com> wrote:
 > BD,
 >
 > "Not the Worlds" tournament is now on! Hosted at the
 > Abbey Rugby Club in
 > Reading on the weekend of the 3rd/4th August at a
 > mere £70 per team, a
 > weekend devoted purely to those of us who are too
 > skint, too scared of
 > flights or just too bad to go to Hawaii:
 >
 > This is what you get for your money:
 >
 > -Bar which will be open from Friday evening
 > -Free Camping (two seperate areas - loads of room)
 > -Up to 5 pitches, so plenty of room for teams
 > -Saturday night party will have a DJ/live band
 > -An "extracurricular" competition - hacky volley,
 > ddc, anything else you
 > suggest - whatever is most popular
 > -Food at £10 per player - BBQ and pasta dishes on
 > the Saturday evening and a
 > breakfast on Sunday morning
 > -Hot showers (They've put 120 rugby players through
 > in 30 mins before!)
 >
 > The only drawback is that there is only one shower
 > room. The shower block
 > can have its access reduced to one door so there
 > will have to be a rota for
 > the showers (eg 1 hour girls, 1 hour boys). We can
 > only aplogise for this,
 > you'll just have to have a beer whilst you're
 > waiting!
 >
 > Directions can be found on the Abbey website
 > (www.abbeyrfc.org) with a map.
 > Emmer Green is the nearest set of shops, just a
 > couple of minutes down the
 > road with a small supermarket there (Budgens) or
 > Reading town centre is 10
 > minutes away with everything and anything you want.
 > B&B details for anyone
 > feeling plush can be supplied on demand, if you've
 > got any queries please
 > contact me and I'll do what I can to help you out.
 >
 > The deadline for cheques to arrive is the end of
 > June as I have to place a
 > deposit at that point, if there's room still I will
 > of course extend it. The
 > following teams have already expressed an interest -
 >
 > SkuMy
 > Smash and Grab
 > Uriel
 > Block Stack
 > Zoo/Hammerage
 > Chunkey Monkey
 >
 > Thank you everyone, I look forward to seeing you in
 > sunny Reading in August!
 >
 > Angie
 >
 > PS Please send all cheques to:
 >
 > Andy Cox
 > 1 Emery Down
 > Upper Basildon
 > Reading
 > Berks RG8 8PA
 >
 >
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Subject: Tour 1 Results
>
>So, I've been checking out the results against the original seedings,
>and my memories of the weekend, and I've got some questions, mostly
>about the upper levels of the event:

Thanks for the responses, both public and private.

A question for RT and Milner: Can your comments be quoted ? (in some
kind of UKU newsletter)

Wayne
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From: "Barry" <barry@endzone.co.uk>
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In "Scotland on Sunday":

http://www.scotlandonsunday.com/spectrum.cfm?id=411792002


This article (and the recent Telegraph one) have, of course, been added to
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www.whatisultimate.com/archive

Barry

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From: Andy Cotgreave <Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk>
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hi,
anyone know where i can get hold of the newest (10th?) edition of WFDF
rules? Preferably all on one webpage?

Thanks
Andy

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Brunel BEAST 2002 Results
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Thanks everyone for coming. I think its safe to say that everyone had a 
great time. Spirit was very good and matches were very intense. Thank you 
to 
the streakers as well. Never seen streakers in an Ultimate tournament 
before, especially not in a Final.

Ultimate Results
1. Purple Haze 1 - Cup
2. Mythago
3. Goonies
4. Sublime
5. Stop Throwing Discs, STD1 - Plate
6. UCL
7. Aye-Aye
8. Bad Habits - Joint Spirit
9. Pyramus & Frisbee - Spoon
10. Purple Haze 2
11. Vortex - Joint Spirit
12. Shag That Dingo, STD2

MVP for Final - Haze #5, big man with the big hair for his big layout to 
score a big point.

Distance
Male winner, Darren Rose - 103m
Female winner, Maggie (UCL)

Lost and Found
Only 3 items. Beige Nike hat, white Fruit of the Loom t-shirt, gray jumper. 
If you claim them I'll take them to SNOUT.

See some tournament pictures, including the streakers on:
http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~xxsuultf/pictures.htm
Send us more pics to add to the archives.

See you at our next tournament.

Alex Noble

www.ulternative.com



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WFDF Ultimate Rules (rev. 1/28/02)

http://www.wfdf.org/2001ultirules.htm

Barry


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> From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Andy Cotgreave
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:49 PM
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> 
> hi,
> anyone know where i can get hold of the newest (10th?) edition of WFDF
> rules? Preferably all on one webpage?
> 
> Thanks
> Andy
> 

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Sorry for being such a Spanna but I'd really like some help. Did 
anyone pick up my black BAPS shirt at Tour 1? I've emailed Matt 
and Adam who haven't seen it.It was lent out to someone who 
needed a dark and I never got it back (not that I blame them, just 
the way things go). It's got BAPS in turquoise on the front and 21 
on the back. I'll be at Nottingham this weekend if anyone can bring 
it along.

Thanks.

Anna

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<P>&nbsp;just a quick note to say thankyou to everyone who turned up on Sunday to Ultimate Raleigh in Grantham.&nbsp;&nbsp;I had a great day and i hope you did too.</P>
<P>In total the tournament raised 400 pounds towards Raleigh International and the expedition, which was great!&nbsp; Again&nbsp;thanks everyone for turning up, you've all helped me to get that bit closer to the 3300 i've got to raise.</P>
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London Ultimate League - Skills Clinics 


Ultimate is a game that can be played by just about anyone but, like most sports, the more you know and learn, the more fun it is. And, unlike some sports, the best ultimate players are usually more than happy to share what they know about the game. The league's Clinic Team will be putting on clinics throughout the year. 

Ultimate is the biggest co-ed sport in the world(!) and it focuses on Spirit, Fun and Friendly Competition. Players of all skill levels are invited to come out for a "back to basics" Skills Clinic followed by a 'pick-up' game.

Do you have a friend, co-worker or family member who is interested in learning more about Ultimate? Then the Basic Skills Clinic would be a good place to start! People of all ages and fitness levels are welcome.


 

What will I learn at the Skills Clinic?

At the Skills Clinic you'll learn about the rules of Ultimate and the basic skills and knowledge needed to successfully play. Each clinic will last about 90 minutes. 

BASIC - throwing, catching, rules, terminology, marking a handler, handling a marker, effective cutting
INTERMEDIATE - tactics: stacking, defence, zone defence/offense

After each Clinic there will be a pick-up game so you can test out your new-found skills!

 

Will it cost me anything?

Not a chance! London League Clinics are free, but donations are definitely accepted - everything collected will be used to promote Ultimate in London. Clinics are being kindly provided by volunteers from teams throughout London League. 

However, you might get the opportunity to buy a limited-edition London League disc.


 

What do I need to bring?

Not much:

* A disc if you have one
* A light-coloured shirt 
* A dark-coloured shirt
* Water


 

When will the Clinics be held?

Our first two clinics will take place as follows. Maps show the general area where we will be, but look around for low-flying objects when you get there.

* 1pm, Saturday, April 27th, Regents Park - Map ¦ Register your interest for this day ¦ Help on the Clinic Team for this day 
* 1pm, Saturday, May 4th, Regents Park - Map ¦ Register your interest for this day ¦ Help on the Clinic Team for this day

Other Clinic dates are tentatively set (location to be determined) for one day on the weekends of:

* June 1/2 
* July 6/7 
* August 3/4


 

How can I learn more?

The best way to learn to play Ultimate is to Play Ultimate! During the summer you can probably find a pick-up game (or organise your own) on almost any day of the week.

If you'd like to learn more online, two excellent resources are www.ultimatehandbook.com and www.whatisultimate.com


 

Mailing List

The London League mailing list will have announcements and news about the League and Clinics. It's also a place where you can talk about games, post results, etc. It's recommended that all players join the list. There are two ways to subscribe. Either:

a) Visit www.yahoogroups.com/group/londonleague with your web browser
or
b) Send an empty e-mail message to londonleague-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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<P><FONT size=3><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue>London Ultimate League - Skills Clinics</FONT></STRONG> <BR></FONT></P>
<P>Ultimate is a game that can be played by just about anyone but, like most sports, the more you know and learn, the more fun it is. And, unlike some sports, the best ultimate players are usually more than happy to share what they know about the game. The league's Clinic Team will be putting on clinics throughout the year. </P>
<P>Ultimate is the biggest co-ed sport in the world(!) and it focuses on Spirit, Fun and Friendly Competition. Players of all skill levels are invited to come out for a "back to basics" Skills Clinic followed by a 'pick-up' game.</P>
<P>Do you have a friend, co-worker or family member who is interested in learning more about Ultimate? Then the Basic Skills Clinic would be a good place to start! People of all ages and fitness levels are welcome.<BR></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue>What will I learn at the Skills Clinic?</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P>At the Skills Clinic you'll learn about the rules of Ultimate and the basic skills and knowledge needed to successfully play. Each clinic will last about 90 minutes. </P>
<P>BASIC - throwing, catching, rules, terminology, marking a handler, handling a marker, effective cutting<BR>INTERMEDIATE - tactics: stacking, defence, zone defence/offense</P>
<P>After each Clinic there will be a pick-up game so you can test out your new-found skills!</P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue>Will it cost me anything?</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P>Not a chance! London League Clinics are free, but donations are definitely accepted - everything collected will be used to promote Ultimate in London. Clinics are being kindly provided by volunteers from teams throughout London League. </P>
<P>However, you might get the opportunity to buy a limited-edition London League disc.<BR></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue>What do I need to bring?</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P>Not much:</P>
<P>* A disc if you have one<BR>* A light-coloured shirt <BR>* A dark-coloured shirt<BR>* Water<BR></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue>When will the Clinics be held?</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P>Our first two clinics will take place as follows. Maps show the general area where we will be, but look around for low-flying objects when you get there.</P>
<P>* 1pm, Saturday, April 27th, Regents Park - <A href="http://www.londonultimate.org/league/maps.html">Map</A> ¦ <A href="mailto:kacheng@yahoo.com?subject=27%20April%20Ultimate%20Skills%20Clinic">Register your interest for this day</A> ¦ <A href="mailto:kacheng@yahoo.com?subject=Clinic%20Team%20-%2027%20April%20Ultimate%20Skills%20Clinic">Help on the Clinic Team for this day</A> <BR>* 1pm, Saturday, May 4th, Regents Park - <A href="http://www.londonultimate.org/league/maps.html">Map</A> ¦ <A href="mailto:kacheng@yahoo.com?subject=4%20May%20Ultimate%20Skills%20Clinic">Register your interest for this day</A> ¦ <A href="mailto:kacheng@yahoo.com?subject=Clinic%20Team%20-%204%20May%20Ultimate%20Skills%20Clinic">Help on the Clinic Team for this day</A></P>
<P>Other Clinic dates are tentatively set (location to be determined) for one day on the weekends of:</P>
<P>* June 1/2 <BR>* July 6/7 <BR>* August 3/4<BR></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue>How can I learn more?</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P>The best way to learn to play Ultimate is to Play Ultimate! During the summer you can probably find a pick-up game (or organise your own) on almost any day of the week.</P>
<P>If you'd like to learn more online, two excellent resources are <A href="http://www.ultimatehandbook.com/">www.ultimatehandbook.com</A> and <A href="http://www.whatisultimate.com/">www.whatisultimate.com</A><BR></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=darkslateblue>Mailing List</FONT></STRONG></P>
<P>The London League mailing list will have announcements and news about the League and Clinics. It's also a place where you can talk about games, post results, etc. It's recommended that all players join the list. There are two ways to subscribe. Either:</P>
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Sorry, it appears that the HTML-coded links didn't go out on the London League and BritDisc-daily lists.Details below.Also, in "Scotland on Sunday":http://www.scotlandonsunday.com/spectrum.cfm?id=411792002----------------Our first two clinics will take place as follows. Maps show the general area where we will be, but look around for low-flying objects when you get there.* 1pm, Saturday, April 27th, Regents Park *Map http://www.londonultimate.org/league/maps.html Register your interest for this dayemail: kacheng@yahoo.com with subject: 27 April Ultimate Skills ClinicHelp on the Clinic Team for this day email: kacheng@yahoo.com with subject: Clinic Team - 27 April Ultimate Skills Clinic* 1pm, Saturday, May 4th, Regents Park *Map http://www.londonultimate.org/league/maps.html Register your interest for this dayemail: kacheng@yahoo.com with subject: 4 May Ultimate Skills ClinicHelp on the Clinic Team for this day email: kacheng@yahoo.com with subject: Clinic Team - 4 May Ultima!
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Also, in "Scotland on Sunday":
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Our first two clinics will take place as follows. Maps show the general area where we will be, but look around for low-flying objects when you get there.


* 1pm, Saturday, April 27th, Regents Park *

Map 
http://www.londonultimate.org/league/maps.html 

Register your interest for this day
email: kacheng@yahoo.com 
with subject: 27 April Ultimate Skills Clinic

Help on the Clinic Team for this day 
email: kacheng@yahoo.com 
with subject: Clinic Team - 27 April Ultimate Skills Clinic



* 1pm, Saturday, May 4th, Regents Park *

Map 
http://www.londonultimate.org/league/maps.html 

Register your interest for this day
email: kacheng@yahoo.com 
with subject: 4 May Ultimate Skills Clinic

Help on the Clinic Team for this day 
email: kacheng@yahoo.com 
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Did anyone pick up a Bears Hoody with Emily on the front at the last
womens indoor tournament in Nottingham and if so could you bring it to
SNOUT or possibly give it to Tanya or Lex or any other Bear at
Nottingham this weekend.
Thanks,
Oscar (on behalf of Emily)

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Your chance to play at Britain's only beach tournament...

Aberdeen are hoping to field a team of old school kids for CUBE this weekend
but are struggling to get interested parties so if anybody would like to
help us out it would be much appreciated.

Drop me a mail, or phone 01349 868658 (day), 01349 867770 (night) if you're
interested.

Cheers.

Bess

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Anyone got their emails/phone numbers?

Adam
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Hey britdisc,

Just wondering if there is anyone driving/taking the ferry to Brugge next 
weekend for Tom's tourney that might be able to give me a lift.  I live in 
Oxford, but the situation is desperate enough that I'll travel to you or 
meet you somewhere in order to get there.  I'm not in the UK at the moment, 
so reply via e-mail, please.

thanks in advance...

Emily
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Sorry to use the whole list for this again...
Is anyone travelling to Nottingham from anywhere near
South London with space in a car? Preferably Friday
evening?
Thanx,
Sheep

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Information for everyone coming to Nottingham for  MIXED TOUR ONE


Start & Finish
Schedules are incomplete at this stage, although the Captains meeting will
be 9am

Accommodation
Camping is pitch side

Emergency
Should you have any problems getting to the venues or getting around the
city, please feel free to call me on 07866 336643.

Playing Open ?
Any & all players welcome to join us for a few Open games... Some teams are
coming, Many Pickup players... More Welcome


Location
If you would like to find the location on a map, the postcode is NG7 2QH
Use www.multimaps.com or www.ukphonebook.com

Directions to HIGHFIELDS PARK, University Boulevard, Beeston, Nottingham
There should be 'Frisbee' signs enroute...

>From the M1, either direction.
Leave M1 at JCT 25 headin towards Nottingham City Centre.
At the THIRD roundabout TURN RIGHT
(This is approximately 4 miles in - just after the "Nurseryman Inn")
Ontinue along Woodside Road and at the second roundabout TURN LEFT 
(Signs should say City Centre)
500 Metres on, TURN RIGHT, into the venue.

There is a Chicane as you enter so drive carefully

PLEASE CALL IF YOU INTEND TO ARRIVE AFTER MIDNITE ON FRIDAY
Sam by Email or Phone - samanir32@yahoo.com or 07866 336643

Directions - To the Travelodge at Riverside
South:  You will be coming into Nottingham from JCT 24 A453. 
It's a pretty straight road all the way to the Inner City Overpass continue
past and under the overpass The Travelodge is on your left.
Details can be found at www.Travelodge.co.uk   - (Nottingham Riverside)

To get to the venue from here, join the overpass, heading for the city
center and take the 3rd Slip Road (signposted for Beeston, Long Eaton &
University of Nottingham).

Final Seedings
1 Chevron Action Flashers
2 Grazed & Confused (Wage)
3 Easy Tiger (Pughkeepsie-esq)
4 Exess Bee (Ex-Strange Blue)
5 L'il Shef
6 Maiden Bungle (Space Monkeys + Northern Roses)
7 Blue Arse Flies
8 Cyrille
9 Hull Inbreds
10 We've Got Guns (so you better be scared)
11 Zoo (Princess & Hammerage)
12 SuperFly
13 YBK
14 Salt n Suace (Scots Allstars)
15 Red
16 FlyghtClub
17 Shocker ! (SE)
18 SkuMy (South Coast)
19 Martha & the Mootones (Oxon)
20 Discophilia (Southern Belles +)



Thanks


Sam
nottingham ultimate
914 6254
reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk




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From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com>
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Subject: MIXED TOUR ONE DIRECTIONS
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There are more details under the following link including a simplified map
with directions from junction 25 of the M1.

http://www.super-fly.co.uk/map.htm

VITO


Adriano Vitali
PTC - Technical Support
http://www.ptc.com



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[mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Samuel Rey
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Information for everyone coming to Nottingham for  MIXED TOUR ONE


Start & Finish
Schedules are incomplete at this stage, although the Captains meeting will
be 9am

Accommodation
Camping is pitch side

Emergency
Should you have any problems getting to the venues or getting around the
city, please feel free to call me on 07866 336643.

Playing Open ?
Any & all players welcome to join us for a few Open games... Some teams are
coming, Many Pickup players... More Welcome


Location
If you would like to find the location on a map, the postcode is NG7 2QH
Use www.multimaps.com or www.ukphonebook.com

Directions to HIGHFIELDS PARK, University Boulevard, Beeston, Nottingham
There should be 'Frisbee' signs enroute...

>From the M1, either direction.
Leave M1 at JCT 25 headin towards Nottingham City Centre.
At the THIRD roundabout TURN RIGHT
(This is approximately 4 miles in - just after the "Nurseryman Inn")
Ontinue along Woodside Road and at the second roundabout TURN LEFT
(Signs should say City Centre)
500 Metres on, TURN RIGHT, into the venue.

There is a Chicane as you enter so drive carefully

PLEASE CALL IF YOU INTEND TO ARRIVE AFTER MIDNITE ON FRIDAY
Sam by Email or Phone - samanir32@yahoo.com or 07866 336643

Directions - To the Travelodge at Riverside
South:  You will be coming into Nottingham from JCT 24 A453.
It's a pretty straight road all the way to the Inner City Overpass continue
past and under the overpass The Travelodge is on your left.
Details can be found at www.Travelodge.co.uk   - (Nottingham Riverside)

To get to the venue from here, join the overpass, heading for the city
center and take the 3rd Slip Road (signposted for Beeston, Long Eaton &
University of Nottingham).

Final Seedings
1 Chevron Action Flashers
2 Grazed & Confused (Wage)
3 Easy Tiger (Pughkeepsie-esq)
4 Exess Bee (Ex-Strange Blue)
5 L'il Shef
6 Maiden Bungle (Space Monkeys + Northern Roses)
7 Blue Arse Flies
8 Cyrille
9 Hull Inbreds
10 We've Got Guns (so you better be scared)
11 Zoo (Princess & Hammerage)
12 SuperFly
13 YBK
14 Salt n Suace (Scots Allstars)
15 Red
16 FlyghtClub
17 Shocker ! (SE)
18 SkuMy (South Coast)
19 Martha & the Mootones (Oxon)
20 Discophilia (Southern Belles +)



Thanks


Sam
nottingham ultimate
914 6254
reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk





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Subject: Re: Who's the daddy?!
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 09:14:37 +0000
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To all those who signed up for the "Who's the Daddy?!" tournament or people 
interested.

Cheques please!
A cheque for £65, made payable to "University of Northumbria"

Send them to
Flaming Monkeys
C/O Sean Hardy
124 Grovenor Road
Jesmond
Newcastle Upon Tyne
NE2 2RQ

You have til 3rd of May to get them in but let me know your team details, 
ASAP.

I need to know your contact address for the captians packs and how many 
people you're planning on bringing for accommodation organisation

Cheers People
Fil
(Flaming Monkeys!)


Those are my principles, If you don't like them I have others. (Groucho 
Marx)



>The first ever "Who's the Daddy?" tournament will be running in Newcastle 
>on
>the weekend of 11th/12th May.
>
>Being held by the somewhat infamous Flaming Monkeys, It's worth a visit 
>just
>for the party!
>
>Bring a team along and play to earn the right to call yourselves the Daddy!
>
>The cost is £65, this will include Top rate accomodation (floor space) and 
>a
>hell of a party on the Saturday night.
>
>Interested?
>
>Drop me an email at
>Fil_TheFreaK@Hotmail.com
>
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SNOUT Information

Contact: samanir32@yahoo.com <mailto:samanir32@yahoo.com> & 07866 336643

32 Teams
There are 8 pitches and therefore 32 teams (list below), we are however
waiting for a confirmation on more, alternative pitches, to cover the
capacity of all 39 teams paid and entered.  An update will be released on
Thursday night.  If any team wants to pull out at this point, please contact
the above asap.  Thank you.

Start & Finish
Schedules are incomplete at this stage, although the Captains meeting will
be 9am and the Prize giving should be done by 6:30pm.  

Accommodation
Camping is pitch side, is available Friday night through until Sunday
morning.
Directions for the nearest Travelodge are listed below

HAT
You may have heard the rumour, its true.  There will be a Hat tournament on
Monday, which will finish relatively early to allow distance drivers to get
home.

Emergency
Should you have any problems getting to the venues or getting around the
city, please feel free to call on the above mobile number.

Location
If you would like to find the location on a map, the postcode is NG7 2QH
(our pitches are on the other side of the road.
Use www.multimaps.com or www.ukphonebook.com

Directions to HIGHFIELDS PARK, University Boulevard, Beeston, Nottingham

>From the M1, either direction.
Leave M1 at JCT 25 heading towards Nottingham City Centre.
At the THIRD roundabout TURN RIGHT
(This is approximately 4 miles in - just after the "Nurseryman Inn")
Continue along Woodside Road and at the second roundabout TURN LEFT 
(Signs should say City Centre)
500 Metres on, TURN RIGHT, into the venue.

There is a Chicane as you enter so drive carefully

PLEASE CALL IF YOU INTEND TO ARRIVE AFTER MIDNITE ON FRIDAY
Sam by Email or Phone - samanir32@yahoo.com or 07866 336643

Directions - To the Travelodge at Riverside
South:  You will be coming into Nottingham from JCT 24 A453. 
It's a pretty straight road all the way to the Inner City Overpass continue
past and under the overpass The Travelodge is on your left.
Details can be found at www.Travelodge.co.uk <http://www.Travelodge.co.uk>
(Nottingham Riverside)

To get to the venue from here, join the overpass, heading for the city
center and take the 3rd Slip Road (signposted for Beeston, Long Eaton &
University of Nottingham).

The Teams, please note these are NOT the seedings.
FlyTNT	
Random Fling	
Disc-iples	
Hulltimate	
Phat 'Eds	
Jesters	
Flatball Project	
Brunel STD	
Uriel	
Disc Doctors	
Bears	
YBK	
Mythago	
Northern Lights	
Ow!	
No Frills	
Mohawks	
Sublime	
Mwnci See	
BLT	
Mute Animal Unit	
Jedi	
Fish	
Ro Sham Bo	
Far Flung	
Shooting Stars	
Strange Blue	
Skunks	
Haze	
Bears 2	
Flatball Project 2	
Brunel STD 2	

Reserve list
YBK 2	
Ow! 2	
Mythago 2	
Bears 3	
Phat 'Eds 2	
Ro Sham Bo 2	
Strange Blue 2	
Jedi 2	

Thanks

Sam

914 6254
reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk


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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:16:01 +0100
Subject: There's a rumour going on...
From: Adam Harras <adam@ummedia.com>
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ultees

We've got our fingers out booked the pitches, the beer and the bubble wrap
ready for rumour 2002. I'm not sure that it can be any messier than last
year, but I am sure Milky will do his best.

Date |  18th-19th August
Location | Chipping Norton
Outcome | messy

There are only 16 places available so get your team in now so not to be
disappointed when all your ultimate friends try to explain to you how stupid
James and Ickle looked in their bubble wrap attire.

to receive your entry pack containing the details of the tournament and how
to enter visit the rumour site at:

http://www.ummedia.com/rumour

then click the sign up now button.

and as Milky would say "Rumour - fc*king luvin it!"

Adam | TeamShark 

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:56:42 +0100
Subject: Ammended Dates to Rumour
From: Adam Harras <adam@ummedia.com>
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Apologies

the dates were wrong. I was so excited about it being on my birthday I moved
it forward

ultees

We've got our fingers out booked the pitches, the beer and the bubble wrap
ready for rumour 2002. I'm not sure that it can be any messier than last
year, but I am sure Milky will do his best.

Date |  17th-18th August
Location | Chipping Norton
Outcome | messy

There are only 16 places available so get your team in now so not to be
disappointed when all your ultimate friends try to explain to you how stupid
James and Ickle looked in their bubble wrap attire.

to receive your entry pack containing the details of the tournament and how
to enter visit the rumour site at:

http://www.ummedia.com/rumour

then click the sign up now button.

and as Milky would say "Rumour - fc*king luvin it!"

Adam | TeamShark 

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      <br>
      </u> </i> </b> Sondage Express r&eacute;alise le dernier sondage ava=
nt le=20
      second tour des &eacute;lections pr&eacute;sidentielles=2E Les r&eac=
ute;sultats=20
      seront envoy&eacute;s par e-mail &agrave; tous les participants avan=
t les=20
      24 et 26 avril et le 3 mai 2002 &agrave; minuit <b>par e-mail</b>=2E=
<br>
      <br>
      <u><b>Pour quel candidat allez vous voter le dimanche 5 mai 2002 ?<b=
r>
      <br>
      </b></u><b> </b> </font>=20
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ding=3D"2">
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ellpadding=3D"1">
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                        <td width=3D"24" height=3D"100"> <font face=3D"Ver=
dana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"1">=20
                          <input type=3D"radio" name=3D"candidat" value=3D=
"chirac">
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dana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"1"><b>Jacques=20
                          Chirac<br>
                          </b></font><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helveti=
ca, sans-serif" size=3D"1">&#149;=20
                          Parti politique : Rassemblement pour la R&eacute=
;publique<br>
                          </font><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif" size=3D"1">&#149;=20
                          &Acirc;ge : 69 ans<br>
                          </font><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif" size=3D"1">&#149;=20
                          Situation de famille : Mari&eacute; et p&egrave;=
re de=20
                          deux filles<br>
                          </font><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif" size=3D"1">&#149;=20
                          M&eacute;tier d'origine : Haut-fonctionnaire<br>=

                          </font><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif" size=3D"1">&#149;=20
                          Mandat en cours : Pr&eacute;sident de la R&eacut=
e;publique=20
                          depuis 1995</font></td>
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ana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"1">=20
                          <input type=3D"radio" name=3D"candidat" value=3D=
"lepen">
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                        <td   width=3D"63" height=3D"83"><font face=3D"Ver=
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es<br>
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prise<br>
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cute;en=20
                          depuis 1984</font></td>
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ntion">
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                  <td><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"=
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ding=3D"1">
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                  <td width=3D"20">=20
                    <input type=3D"radio" name=3D"candidat" value=3D"nsp">=

                  </td>
                  <td><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"=
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"0">
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            <td>
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ding=3D"1">
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                  <td width=3D"20">=20
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>
                  </td>
                  <td><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"=
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                    suis certain de mon choix</b></font></td>
                </tr>
                <tr>=20
                  <td width=3D"20">=20
                    <input type=3D"radio" name=3D"choix" value=3D"non_defi=
nitif">
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 size=3D"2"><b>Mon=20
                    choix n'est pas encore d&eacute;finitif</b></font></td=
>
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            </td>
          </tr>
        </table>
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"4">
          <tr>
            <td height=3D"8"><b><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, s=
ans-serif" size=3D"2">Pour=20
              quel candidat avez vous vot&eacute; au 1er tour ?</font></b>=
=20
              <select name=3D"1e_tour">
                <option value=3D"Choisir">Choisir</option>
                <option value=3D"abstention">Je n'ai pas vot&eacute;</opti=
on>
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                <option value=3D"A=2E Madelin">A=2E Madelin</option>
                <option value=3D"B=2E Megret">B=2E Megret</option>
                <option value=3D"C=2E Boutin">C=2E Boutin</option>
                <option value=3D"C=2E Lepage">C=2E Lepage</option>
                <option value=3D"C=2E Taubira">C=2E Taubira</option>
                <option value=3D"D=2E Gluckstein">D=2E Gluckstein</option>=

                <option value=3D"F=2E Bayrou">F=2E Bayrou</option>
                <option value=3D"J=2E Chirac">J=2E Chirac</option>
                <option value=3D"J=2E Saint-Josse">J=2E Saint-Josse</optio=
n>
                <option value=3D"J=2EM=2E Le Pen">J=2EM=2E Le Pen</option>=

                <option value=3D"J=2EP=2E Chevenement">J=2EP=2E Chevenemen=
t</option>
                <option value=3D"L=2E Jospin">L=2E Jospin</option>
                <option value=3D"N=2E Mamere">N=2E Mamere</option>
                <option value=3D"O=2E Besancenot">O=2E Besancenot</option>=

                <option value=3D"R=2E Hue">R=2E Hue</option>
              </select>
            </td>
          </tr>
        </table>
        <br>
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"0">
          <tr>
            <td>
              <table width=3D"100%" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpad=
ding=3D"2">
                <tr>=20
                  <td width=3D"17%"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetic=
a, sans-serif" size=3D"2">Votre=20
                    civilit&eacute; :</font></td>
                  <td width=3D"17%"> <font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helveti=
ca, sans-serif" size=3D"2">=20
                    <select name=3D"civilite">
                      <option value=3D"Mr">Mr</option>
                      <option value=3D"Mme">Mme</option>
                      <option value=3D"Mlle">Mlle</option>
                    </select>
                    </font></td>
                  <td width=3D"20%"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetic=
a, sans-serif" size=3D"2">Ann&eacute;e=20
                    de naissance :</font></td>
                  <td width=3D"14%"> <font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helveti=
ca, sans-serif" size=3D"2">=20
                    <input type=3D"text" name=3D"anneedenaissance" value=3D=
"19??" size=3D"4" maxlength=3D"4">
                    </font></td>
                  <td width=3D"17%"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetic=
a, sans-serif" size=3D"2">Votre=20
                    situation : </font></td>
                  <td width=3D"17%"> <font face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helveti=
ca, sans-serif" size=3D"2">=20
                    <select name=3D"situation">
                      <option value=3D"Agriculteur, p=EAcheur">Agriculteur=
, p=EAcheur</option>
                      <option value=3D"Artisan">Artisan</option>
                      <option value=3D"Cadre, ing=E9nieur">Cadre, ing=E9ni=
eur</option>
                      <option value=3D"Commer=E7ant">Commer=E7ant</option>=

                      <option value=3D"Dirigeant(e), cadre sup=E9rieur">Di=
rigeant(e),=20
                      cadre sup=E9rieur</option>
                      <option value=3D"Employ=E9(e) ou =E9quivalent">Emplo=
y=E9(e) ou =E9quivalent</option>
                      <option value=3D"Enseignant(e), chercheur(se)">Ensei=
gnant(e),=20
                      chercheur(se)</option>
                      <option value=3D"Etudiant(e)">Etudiant(e)</option>
                      <option value=3D"Femme ou Homme au foyer">Femme ou H=
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I know that the deadline is a week away yet and that anything could happen
between now and then, but could you give us an indication as to how many teams
have entered so far and the likelihood of relegation from Tour 1 etc.  This will
give us a good idea as to whether or not our 2nd team is entered, because if
they're not we will try to enter them in a different tournament the weekend
before, something we would not do if they are in Tour 2.

Please, please, please!!

Slipdisc.




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From: "Fil Holcombe" <fil_thefreak@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Who's the Daddy, Urgent!
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Due to circumstances beyond our control, we have major problems with our 
planned tournament.

The field we were due to play on is now unusable on the Saturday.

This message is just to let those intending to play. We are left with two 
options, cancel, which we don't really want to do. The other option is to 
play a one day event on the Sunday.

Could people interested get back to us and let us know if they are still 
interested as we need to confirm if we still want the field for the Sunday 
by 1st May (Wed).

Sorry if this has messed up peoples plans.

Cheers
Fil
(Flaming Monkeys)

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killing all those who opposed them.


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So, it seems early, but I want to have this all completely sorted BEFORE
I go to Hawaii, so:

The UK Ultimate Tour 2002 Rules say:

>1.     B. UK Ultimate National Finals
> 
>       1. The format for 2002 Nationals is based on a simple knockout
>       system. This gives an equal chance for any qualifying teams to
> win the tournament. 

and 

>       4. Nationals format will be based on (at least) a sixteen team
>       basic knockout format (i.e. no pools), seeded according to the
>       tour finishing positions. The tournament will try and be 
>       expanded to 32 teams should a venue big enough and demand allow
>       it but this cannot be guaranteed.

How set in stone are these rules?

The venue is likely able to provide 16 pitches.

Whilst this makes somewhat simple scheduling for a 32 teams, especially
in a knockout format, field availability gives scope for more teams to
play.

However, more than 32 teams doesn't make for a particularly sensible
knockout format.

I guess that somewhere between 16 and 32 teams would result in a 16 team
knockout, and a Division 2 for the rest? Or do top teams get byes in a
32-knockout format?


Wayne Retter
UKU Nationals TD
 

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Dear All, I have been asked be the Co-Ed Tour co-ordinator this year.  That 
for the most part means that I'll collect and collate the rosters and keep 
and publish the scores.

Here are the "Mixed Series" rules for this 2002 season.  I will ask Ben to 
post a copy on the UKU site.  They are unchanged from last season.  There 
were some suggestions of tightening rostering this year a la Open Tour.  
This would seem to be appropriate for top 8-ish teams but might cause 
difficulties for all those local teams struggling with personnel, esp as a 
lot of student players will be in different parts of the country at 
different times in the summer.  There were no brilliant ideas forthcoming 
about how to be strict with the top teams and less so with the lower teams, 
so it seems the best idea is to keep it the same this year, especially as 
there is no international event being qualified for.

But take note now that the intention of UKU is to introduce Tour-long 
rostering restrictions, just as in the Open Tour, for the Co-Ed Tour 2003.

Please also note that every team that plays in a co-ed event must fill out a 
roster at that event.  I am sending round roster sheets for Nottingham to 
the team contacts, and Sam (the TD) will have Roster sheets at the captains' 
meeting.  Please fill in these rosters and give them back to Sam.

Do make the most of this opportunity to fill in paper rosters cos next year 
it will be online and paper rosters will be something you tell your 
grandchildren about.

Here are my contact details:
Si Barry
135 Southwyck House
Coldharbour Lane
Brixton SW9 8TW
H 020 7733 8155
M 07900 606 370
sibarry@hotmail.com

And here are those 2002 Rules,
Have Fun, (I won't be at Nottingham)
Si B


BUF Mixed Ultimate Series 2002
******************************

*Purpose and Goals

1. To encourage the growth of the Ultimate player base.
The points system used to rank teams for the National Finals awards a single 
point for each player newly recruited to tournament level Ultimate.  
Continued growth of the player base is necessary for the award of government 
funding and inclusion in international sport festivals, such as the World 
games.

2. To encourage the play of mixed Ultimate.
The Open Tour system has a drawback in discouraging mixed play by pitting 
mixed teams against open teams. By offering explicitly mixed events, teams 
and players who wish to play in the mixed format can do so on a level 
playing field, competing against other mixed teams.

3. To provide a mixed tournament circuit and a structure for Mixed 
Nationals.
It can be difficult and a financial risk for individuals or teams to 
organize a tournament without UKU sanction or support.  By creating an 
‘official’ series, more teams will organize mixed tournaments due to reduced 
risk of low attendance and financial loss.

4. To provide a larger player base for the selection of a national mixed 
squad.
Mixed Ultimate has strategies and playing styles specific to the game.  By 
encouraging more players to play Mixed more often, national selectors will 
have a greater range of players from which to choose, many with advanced 
skills specific to the Mixed game.

The Mixed Series, Mixed Nationals, and Nationals Qualifying Points
For the Mixed Series, games will be played by WFDF rules.  This means that 
there is a 4/3 gender split on the pitch, with the team going on offence 
(the team receiving the pull) deciding whether it will be 4 men or 4 women 
on the pitch.  The defensive team must match their gender split to that of 
the offensive team.  For each Mixed Series Event, teams must be ready to 
play on Saturday morning with at least 4 players of each gender, no 
exceptions.  Teams not meeting this requirement will not receive any 
Nationals qualification points.  For Nationals, teams must have at least 4 
players of each gender who can play throughout the entire tournament.  
Failure to do so will result in disqualification.

The Mixed Series will consist of three two-day national events.  All events 
will have an ‘open’ format, meaning that any team entering can win the 
event.  (This is a change from the Open Tour, where previous performance can 
prevent a team from winning an event.)  All events will be publicised on 
Britdisc and using other means as available.  All events will be open to any 
rostered mixed team (subject, as always, to the tournament director’s 
discretion).  Rosters will be collected at all Mixed Series Events; 
rostering rules are detailed below.

Each event will contribute to qualification for Mixed Nationals.  In a 
manner similar to the Open Tour, points will be acquired at each event.  To 
qualify for Mixed Nationals, a team must have a minimum of 20 points, ten of 
which must have been earned by playing in a Mixed Series Event.  (Ways of 
earning points are further detailed below.)  Unlike the Open Tour, a team 
earns 10 points by simply attending a Mixed Series Event.  Many teams will 
acquire the all the points needed for Nationals qualification at a single 
Event.  Points will be awarded in the following manner:
1st place:  60 points
2nd 	:  50 points
3rd	:  42 points
4th	:  35 points
5th     :  29 points
6th	:  24 points
7th	:  20 points
8th	:  17 points
9th	:  15 points
10th	:  14 points
all other teams:  10 points


Seedings for Mixed Nationals will be based on points acquired over the Mixed 
Series.  If it becomes necessary to exclude teams from the Mixed Nationals 
due to over-subscription, teams with the lowest point totals will be 
excluded.  (Based upon the last two seasons, this should not be necessary.)  
It is important to note that this points system is different from that of 
the Open system in several ways.  There is significantly less pressure to 
attend every event - missing an event will not affect your seeding at the 
next event.  Also, many teams will earn ample points for entry into the 
Mixed Nationals and a reasonable seeding for that event by attending one or 
two Mixed Series Events.

Rostering new players can earn additional Nationals qualification points.  
One point is earned for each new player rostered to lay in any Mixed Series 
event.  A new player is defined as a players that has never played an Open 
Tour event, a student event, a women’s event, a mixed event, or any other 
British or foreign tournament.  Hat tournaments are excluded from this 
definition.  Spirit of the Game extends to honesty about team rosters and 
new players.  Spirit of the game also extends to other teams being 
responsible for reporting infractions; no one gains from letting 
misrepresentations pass unnoticed.  Teams found abusing the new player 
points system will lose and illegally gained points and be ‘fined’ an 
additional 50 points per offence.

Rosters and Players
Each team must submit a roster for each Mixed Series event.

A player may only be rostered for one team during a Mixed Series Event, but 
unlike the Open Tour, there is no limit on changing teams during the season. 
  A player can play for a different team at each Event if he/she wishes.  
The only limitation on changing rosters comes into effect for Mixed 
Nationals.  For a player to play for a team at Mixed Nationals, he/she must 
have PLAYED for that team at one of the previous Mixed Nationals Events.  
Spirit of the Game extends to this requirement.  Teams found playing 
ineligible players at Nationals will be disqualified.  Spirit of the game 
also extends to other teams being responsible for reporting infractions; no 
one gains from letting misrepresentations pass unnoticed.




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Hello All

I have received cheques for entry to tour 2 from the following teams.

Thank you all

Marty McFly
Headrush
Blue Arse Flies 1
Blue Arse Flies 2
Leeds Leeds Leeds
Un Poco Loco
Slipdisc 1
Slipdisc 2
North South Devide
Rats Of Nimh
Fluid Druids
Smash & Grab
Atomic Horse
Strange Blue
Hammerage 2
Trigger Happy
Albatross
Clapham 1
Clapham 2
JB7
Teamshark
Hammerage 1
Uriel
Chuft
Red

Rob

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Uriel First team Captain
University of exeter
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sorry to throw this in at the last minute but i think my circumstances are desperate enough

last night i have had several players drop out from the mixed event this w/end due to uni commitments and one due to recurring injury. this leaves me with 7 people on saturday (only 3 women). I would be extremely grateful if there are any pick ups left out there who would like to play with we've got guns ( on saturday mainly cos i have a few players coming on sunday). we are mainly leeds uni people just out for a good time and to play some fun ultimate.

we also have tequila.

i'm available on 07736301138 anytime except 12-1

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UK ULTIMATE DISC EVENTS DIARY 


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27 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIA'S ULTIMATE BEACH EVENT

Location: Aberdeen - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Britains ONLY OPEN Beach Tournament. 16 teams(5 aside), £35 per team. Come and join us for what can only be described as a UNIQUE experience. Soft, soft sand, tall dunes and ULTIMATE - what more could you ask for. 


http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/thecube


Dave Gardner

598c King Street,, Aberdeen,, , , AB245SQ

Main Email: the_cube_2002@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01224491350

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27 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) -  MIXED TOUR I

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Nottingham Highfields Park boasts spacious fields, an on site Bar with en suite changing rooms and a nearby Boating Lake & Arbor.  The Copa Cabana Party atmosphere will rock you through day and night at this awesome event.





Sam Rey

62a Nottingham Road, Basford, Nottingham, , NG7 7AH

Main Email: Samanir32@yahoo.com to 

Alternative Email: reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk

Mobile: 07866 336643

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27 APRIL 2002 (2 DAYS) - MUTE- STUDENT CHARITY TOURNY (CANCELLED)

Location: Manchester - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

16 Teams- Fancy dress/themed/a hat/wig will do!!! This will be a sponsored i.e get your parents and relatives to pay for your tourny, event. Not camping (it's manchester!) floor space available. Money will goto Barnardos check this link for more info. http://www.barnardos.org/AboutBarnardos/index.html.
Minimum tourny fee off 10000p



http://manchesteruni.org


Dann Cleveland

64 Ashford RD, Withington, Manchester, , 

Main Email: manchesterultimate@yahoo.com

Alternative Email: ultimate@manchesteruni.org

Home Phone: 01613749116

Work Phone: 07811375015

Mobile: 07811375015

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28 APRIL 2002 (1 DAYS) - SLURREY SLINGERS ONE DAY WONDER

Location: University Of Surrey Guildford - [Indoor Ultimate]



We here at the university of Surrey are holding our 2nd ever tournament.
It is an open, indoor tournament and those of you who came last year will
know that it is just a one day affair.  The price is £35 per team and it is
on the 28th of April.  It was a great day last year and alot of teams
commented on the fact that although it was outdoor season, it was a breath
of fresh air to have a one day tournament.  If anyone is interested, please
let me know.


Stewart Fudge

Main Email: ce81sf@surrey.ac.uk

____________________________________________________________


04 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - BRUGES (OVERSEAS)

Location: Bruges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

____________________________________________________________


04 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT OUTDOORS

Location: TBC - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Please contact Tim with any bids for this event

Tim Blair

Student Co-ordinator, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

Mobile: 07976 800051

____________________________________________________________


09 MAY 2002 (4 DAYS) - ROTTERDAM (OVERSEAS)

Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

____________________________________________________________


11 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - WHO'S THE DADDY INVITATIONAL

Location: Newcastle - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

Entry fee is £65 per team
Spaces available


Sean Hardy

124 Grovenor Road, Jesmond, Newcastle Upon Tyne, NE2 2RQ, 

Main Email: rabbit_shuffler@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: Fil_TheFreaK@hotmail.com

____________________________________________________________


11 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - BOURNE ON THE 11TH MAY

Location: Bournemouth Sports Club - [Outdoor Ultimate]


So you want to combine ultimate, good music, beer and guaranteed sun?

This is an open invitation to a tournament being held in Bournemouth on the 11th/12th May. 

You'll be playing on quality fields surrounded by woods with excellent facilities and we're gonna be getting in some DJs and bands to help along the atmosphere. We can cope with up to 24 teams, but as there is Rotterdam, and the Who's your Daddy tourny (in Newcastle) on the same weekend, I'm planning for a more intimate 12-16 team tournament - so you'll be playing plenty of teams and getting quality pitch time.

Camping is free and on site. Plans are for a cheap food option available all day. Also, so you don't have to move too far to get to your tents, it'll be an outdoors party (it's always sunny in Bournemouth) with bands and DJs.

I'm also really tempted to do an extra day on the Monday and run a mini beach ultimate tournament at the gorgeous Studland Bay. If you're interested in that, then let me know.

The cost of all this is only 100 quid per team. Please send cheques to William Parker
Flat4, 6 Rushton Crescent, Bournemouth, BH3 7AF


Will 
Druids/DHB Bournemouth/Yo Mama!



William Parker

Flat 4, 6 Rushton Crescent, Bournemouth, , BH3 7AF

Main Email: willparker77@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01202 461829

Work Phone: 01202 404685

____________________________________________________________


18 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR II

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]






Kev Lowe

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


01 JUNE 2002 (3 DAYS) - BRITOPEN02

Location: Eastbourne Sports Park - [Outdoor Ultimate]


The British Open makes it's long awaited return at a great new venue, with new surprises in store as ever. More details soon.




http://www.britopen.co.uk


Nolan

BritOpen Admin Office, 3 Wish Road, Eastbourne, East Sussex, BN21 4NX

Main Email: admin@britopen.co.uk

Work Phone: 01323 430726

Mobile: 07740084207

Fax: 01323 430223

____________________________________________________________


08 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - MIXED TOUR II

Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


COED TOUR II - WEBSITE TO FOLLOW




ARUN SHARMA

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712583578

____________________________________________________________


15 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - DURHAM HAT

Location: Durham - [Outdoor Ultimate]


A relaxed summer hat tournament with loads of spirit, at a price even students can afford! Includes the return of the Northern Ultimate Kabbadi Championships.


http://www.dufdisc.co.uk


Zoe Endacott

2 Mitchell Street, Durham City, , , 

Main Email: tournament@dufdisc.co.uk

Alternative Email: president@dufdisc.co.uk

____________________________________________________________


22 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR III

Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Bodicote Park hosted Tour 2 in 2001. This year, we'll have more fields, more teams, better food, bigger party. All for the same price. 


Paul"Stig" Unwin

44 Swinegate, Grantham, Lincs, , NG31 6RL

Main Email: punwin@grantham.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01476 577993

Work Phone: you're joking!

____________________________________________________________


06 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 33 1/3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


As the gods would have it the tour was not to be at southampton this year. A year can not go by without playing on southampton's flat, green, lush fields, and so Skunks are proud to present Tour 33 1/3 - The Unofficial Tour. It will be a fun event where you dont need to roster or stress. Cheap ( hopefully ), good fun, great pitches, what more do you need?


Andrew 'Trig' Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Alternative Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Home Phone: 02380 678866

Work Phone: 01962 815169

Mobile: 07786 384009

____________________________________________________________


13 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) -  MIXED TOUR III

Location: Titchfield, nr Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


This will be the same excellent venue as Co-ed Nationals last year. All being well, we will also have the accommodation deal with the Holiday Inn again.



Simon Weeks

Main Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

____________________________________________________________


20 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR IV

Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TOUR IV

SPACE FOR WOMENS DIVISION AS LAST YEAR



ARUN SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, LS6 1DF, 

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712 583578

____________________________________________________________


03 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - NOT THE WORLDS

Location: Abbey RFC, Reading - [Outdoor Ultimate]


A weekend of fun for those of us not heading to the Worlds, food and drink available on site, good pitches and plenty of spirit for all.


Andy Cox

1 Emery Down, Upper Basildon, Reading, Berks, RG8 8PA

Main Email: andycox23@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01491 671806

Mobile: 07876 494 173

____________________________________________________________


04 AUGUST 2002 (7 DAYS) - WORLD CLUBS 2002 (OVERSEAS)

Location: Hawaii, USA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

____________________________________________________________


10 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - BRUMMI 50

Location: Birmingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Aston University sports and leisure club
Just off Junction 7 of the M6 .
Food all day,bar all day.BBq in the evening with  party.
6 pitches ,24 teams 

Phil Cooper

199 Blackberry Lane, Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands, , B74 4JJ

Main Email: phil_cooper@btinternet.com

Home Phone: 0121 353 6399

Work Phone: 07831 401983

____________________________________________________________


24 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED NATIONALS

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


31 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - UK ULTIMATE OUTDOOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: King Edwards Place, Swindon - [Outdoor Ultimate]


hosted by Layout Dreams.

More details later.

Wayne Retter

8 Avon House, Rutland Close, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 1EH

Main Email: layoutdreams@yahoogroups.com

Home Phone: 01737-218489

Mobile: 07970-903420

____________________________________________________________


07 SEPTEMBER 2002 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY

Location: Glastonbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Glastonbury- as last year!!!


Arun Sharma

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712 583578

____________________________________________________________


22 FEBRUARY 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED INDOOR FINALS

Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


08 MARCH 2003 (2 DAYS) - OPEN INDOOR QUALIFIERS

Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


22 MARCH 2003 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS' INDOOR FINALS

Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


05 APRIL 2003 (2 DAYS) - OPEN INDOOR FINALS

Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


19 APRIL 2003 (2 DAYS) - RIMINI (OVERSEAS) WORLD BEACH CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: Rimini, Italy - [Outdoor Ultimate, Freestyle]


It's big & beachy. 



TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


26 APRIL 2003 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 1

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


03 MAY 2003 (2 DAYS) - BRUGES (OVERSEAS)/ STUDENTS

Location: Bruges - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


10 MAY 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED EVENT I

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


24 MAY 2003 (2 DAYS) - TOUR II

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


31 MAY 2003 (2 DAYS) - ROTTERDAM (OVERSEAS)

Location: Rotterdam - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


07 JUNE 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED EVENT II

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


21 JUNE 2003 (2 DAYS) - TOUR III

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


05 JULY 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED EVENT III

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


19 JULY 2003 (2 DAYS) - TOUR IV

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


02 AUGUST 2003 (3 DAYS) - WINDOW FOR WORLDS/EUROPEANS

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Dates/events not yet known


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


23 AUGUST 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED NATIONALS

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________


06 SEPTEMBER 2003 (2 DAYS) - OPEN NATIONALS

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA

TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

____________________________________________________________




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Subject: Lost property at Tour I
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Just a quick enquiry - did anyone find a white plastic bag with a pair
of cleats and a pair of football boots, both size eleven, after Tour I?
I think they may have been left in the pavilion after the trophy
presentations. If so, please let me know on either
Edward.grigson@dynegy.co.uk or 07949 885416. I've tried emailing Matt,
but had no reply.
 
Thanks,
 
Ed.
 
Edward Grigson
Network Analyst
Tel: +44 (0) 20 8403 1181
Email: Edward.Grigson@dynegy.co.uk
 

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Dear Ultimate Players,

We are pleased to announce our Xth International Bologna Tournament 2002 =
on October 5-6th.=20

As last year, we want to make an Women and Open tournament, but it =
depends=20
IF the Women division will have enough teams.=20

So official registration for the Women Pool are now open.=20

to registrate you can go to www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/bologna (sign =
- up)

The official registrations for the Open pool will start after July, =
15th.=20
=20
All the Open teams which have already registered and will registrate =
(THANKS!)=20
but are in stand-by until the Women pool will be complete and the format =
Open-Women of the
tournament will be definitive.=20
Sorry but we are making sure to have a nice women tournament!

Other details:=20
player fee will be around 30 euros=20
team fee 80 euros
you will sleep in the gym,=20
one welcome party on Friday and party on Saturday.
Italian food mmmm buono!!
2 days of fantastic magic ultimate feelings!
=20
We want YOU for a very special edition! Do come!

Open and Women is our preferred format, so women ...=20
we are waiting for you!!!=20
=20
ulticheers and hope to see you soon, ;)
=20
Alejandro (Ale)
alejandro_aragon@virgilio.it=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>We are pleased to announce our Xth =
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to make=20
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teams.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><STRONG>So official =
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Women Pool are now open. </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>to registrate you can go to <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/bologna">www.ultilinks.com/t=
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(sign - up)<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>The official registrations for the =
Open pool will=20
start after July, 15th. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>All the Open teams which have already =
registered=20
and will&nbsp;registrate </FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>(THANKS!) =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>but are in <STRONG>stand-by =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>player fee will be around 30 euros =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>team fee 80 euros</FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><BR>you will sleep in the gym, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>one welcome party on Friday and party =
on=20
Saturday.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Italian food mmmm buono!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>2 days of fantastic magic ultimate=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>ulticheers and hope to see you soon,=20
;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Alejandro (Ale)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><A=20
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Dear Ultimate Players,

We are pleased to announce our Xth International Bologna Tournament 2002 =
on October 5-6th.=20

As last year, we want to make an Women and Open tournament, but it =
depends=20
IF the Women division will have enough teams.=20

So official registration for the Women Pool are now open.=20

to registrate you can go to www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/bologna (sign =
- up)

The official registrations for the Open pool will start after July, =
15th.=20
=20
All the Open teams which have already registered and will registrate =
(THANKS!)=20
but are in stand-by until the Women pool will be complete and the format =
Open-Women of the
tournament will be definitive.=20
Sorry but we are making sure to have a nice women tournament!

Other details:=20
player fee will be around 30 euros=20
team fee 80 euros
you will sleep in the gym,=20
one welcome party on Friday and party on Saturday.
Italian food mmmm buono!!
2 days of fantastic magic ultimate feelings!
=20
We want YOU for a very special edition! Do come!

Open and Women is our preferred format, so women ...=20
we are waiting for you!!!=20
=20
ulticheers and hope to see you soon, ;)
=20
Alejandro (Ale)
alejandro_aragon@virgilio.it=20


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Players,<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>We are pleased to announce our Xth =
International=20
Bologna Tournament 2002 on October 5-6th. <BR><BR>As last year, we want =
to make=20
an&nbsp;Women&nbsp;and Open tournament, but it depends </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>IF the Women division will have enough =
teams.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><STRONG>So official =
registration&nbsp;for the=20
Women Pool are now open. </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>to registrate you can go to <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/bologna">www.ultilinks.com/t=
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(sign - up)<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>The official registrations for the =
Open pool will=20
start after July, 15th. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>All the Open teams which have already =
registered=20
and will&nbsp;registrate </FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>(THANKS!) =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>but are in <STRONG>stand-by =
</STRONG>until the=20
Women pool will be complete and the format Open-Women of =
the<BR>tournament will=20
be definitive. <BR>Sorry but we are making sure to have a nice women=20
tournament!<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><BR>Other details: =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>player fee will be around 30 euros =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>team fee 80 euros</FONT><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2><BR>you will sleep in the gym, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>one welcome party on Friday and party =
on=20
Saturday.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Italian food mmmm buono!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>2 days of fantastic magic ultimate=20
feelings!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>We want YOU for a very special =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>ulticheers and hope to see you soon,=20
;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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As you will know Slipdisc are hosting a tournament on the 10th/11th of August
here in Birmingham.  During the weekend we will be raising money for the BBC's
Sport Relief campaign.  We will donate money for every point scored in the
tournament and will be organising other fund raising events for you to hand over
a few coppers.

We now have a web-site set up which gives details of the event:

The initial page is up for the tournament at the following address, further
pages will be available in the near future.

http://fluidltd.co.uk/brummiefive-0/

We've had a few cheques come through the post so far but I have been forced into
setting a deadline for entry because the venue now want a deposit off us fairly
soon.  There is enough space for 24 teams but we need a minimum of 16 really to
make it happen, so can everyone who wants to enter please get their cheques to
me by May 31st.  If we then don't have enough entrants, we will have to cancel,
boo!  Think of all the starving kids!

Send cheques to:

Simon Statham
37 York Street
Harborne
B17 0HG

Please indicate your team name and an e-mail contact address.

Sorry to put a closing date so far from the actual tournament date, but we've
been slightly forced into it.

Check out the web-site, we have lots planned so it should be an excellent
weekend!

Si.




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Oh yeah, it's 85 quid by the way!!  Forgot that slight detail!

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"Simon Statham" <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk> on 29/04/2002 08:05:34

To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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Subject:  Brumii Five 0 Charity Tournament Update



As you will know Slipdisc are hosting a tournament on the 10th/11th of August
here in Birmingham.  During the weekend we will be raising money for the BBC's
Sport Relief campaign.  We will donate money for every point scored in the
tournament and will be organising other fund raising events for you to hand over
a few coppers.

We now have a web-site set up which gives details of the event:

The initial page is up for the tournament at the following address, further
pages will be available in the near future.

http://fluidltd.co.uk/brummiefive-0/

We've had a few cheques come through the post so far but I have been forced into
setting a deadline for entry because the venue now want a deposit off us fairly
soon.  There is enough space for 24 teams but we need a minimum of 16 really to
make it happen, so can everyone who wants to enter please get their cheques to
me by May 31st.  If we then don't have enough entrants, we will have to cancel,
boo!  Think of all the starving kids!

Send cheques to:

Simon Statham
37 York Street
Harborne
B17 0HG

Please indicate your team name and an e-mail contact address.

Sorry to put a closing date so far from the actual tournament date, but we've
been slightly forced into it.

Check out the web-site, we have lots planned so it should be an excellent
weekend!

Si.




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Hi everyone,
Regardless of weather (a mixture of both sun, hail, rain and wind), 9 hardy 
teams battled it out for the prestigious CUBE 2002 cup!  Unfortunately 
injury and illness depleted Flatball Project too much, and on the SUNDAY, 
they merged with AOG (aberdeen old gits).

The results are as follows...

1) Positive Mojo                  -  CUP
2) Looping Bra's (shooting stars) -  PARTY
3) Stirling Blaze
4) Muppet Mojo                    -  PLATE
5) Chaos Theory                   -  SPIRIT of the game
6) Negative Feedback
7) Project AOG                    -  SPOON
8) The Fictionals

MVP:  James Presly (Jippy - Positive Mojo).

The Spirit of the Game award was once again a very close vote...  each team 
played to the best of their ability, both in skill and spirit.

I'd like to say thanks to each team, for making the trip up to aberdeen and 
helping make the C.U.B.E. the exhausting but fun tournament that it was!

It is a shame that the C.U.B.E. clashed with the Co-ed Tour and before the 
date change, SNOUT.  At such a busy time of year, there is little anyone can 
do, but hopefully next year the dates wont clash!  Then we can look forward 
to a truly fantastic tournament.

Thanks,
NSC Dave

C.U.B.E. co-ordinator
Positive Mojo - Aberdeen.

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Hi,
 
Next weekend we'll host our 10th international ultimate-tournament in
Brugge, Belgium. We had a last minute withdrawel and none of the teams
on the waitinglist can make it. Is any team out there willing and able
to join us ? If you do please hurry ... Check out the website for more
info.
 
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TWENTY teams have now entered the event - We are limited to 32

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Hi all,

Bournemouth 11th/12th May - it's just got better!

Sat: Bournemouth Sports Club. Great pitches, facilities, free camping, 
music. Fun!

Sun: Sandbanks beach. Definately one of Britains best beaches. Gorgeous 
setting right next to the impressive Poole harbour, nice, clean, fine, deep 
sand. Even more fun!

Sound good? I don't think I can make it any better without giving away free 
beer and steak. (Maybe I'll do that next year!)

Cost: 90 pounds per team. I've still got space and I want to get as many 
teams as I can to make it as fun as I can.

Pickup: No team? I'm more than happy to stick people together to form some 
teams. Mail me. [There will be a charge for this (90 quid divided by the 
number in the team) - Sorry but I've got to cover my costs!]

Will
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Mixed Event - 27 & 28th April 2002.

Friday & Weather
Thunderous heavens & high winds were the order from God!  Despite repeated
attempts to cut a deal, the highly mounted one supplied only limited
sunshine thru the rain and the hailstones weren't up to expectation.  Maybe
we should have sent a complimentary bottle of JD to the weather prophets or
something.

Saturday Nite
Was full and fatigued, the rain had taken the umph out of mast players and
the chilled selection of cheesy SKA didn't lift their poor souls... when
finally the bar closed at 11 the DJ (Highness Sounds) announced a meeting in
the COPA Tent and with a couple of mates, moved the entire sound system down
and out, thru the wind and rain and was set up again within 15 minutes.  The
DBs pounded the night air until 3am, Tom & Arun made the most valiant effort
to enthuse this dishevelled crowd into drink the game away, then later, as
people filtered away to their tents the chill came on and shattered and
battered bodies curled up to the sound of rainfall and heavy dub baselines.

Fly v Fly
The local highpoint was the game between SuperFly of Nottingham's highly
coloured past (and girls from the delectable Mavis) and the current
FlyghtClub All Star Co-ed posse!  The toss went to Super and Flyght could do
nothing but battle with the wind in an attempt to stay in the game...  Not
that SuperFly could push ahead at any point.  Combined forces of Wind,
driving Rain and Hailstones, contrived to deplete the game of finesse and
energy (as with so many others) finally, the buzzer came and the score
difference was just the one.

Spoon
Red brought up the rear (no pun), keeping the spoon chaser running.
Although they won the crate of beer, they laft before the ceremony and an
eager COPA Tent Crewman plundered the prize for the harder working members
of FlyghtClub.

Plate
Shocker! Rising meteorically from the depths to just miss out on the
opportunity to go higher.  All the way from 17th to 9th, taking the Plate in
the process; prying it from the cold dead fingers of the 'wind torn' Inbred
Kinfolk.  Again the Wind Rain and Hil battered everyone, but Shocker!
Undeterred and unwilling to let go, battled hard producing one of the few
upwind points magnificently.  Sadly though Inbred tried, and Shocker! Too,
no-one could reproduce that kind of endeavour.  Not on that pitch at least.

Final
Unexpectedly, Chevron, tipped to win had a hellish Sunday, guess they spent
too much time with Raj maybe... Anyway...
Grazed and Confused (Wage), burst forth with an early flurry of points.
Flurry, in that weather you ask?  Actually they forced themselves against
Easy Tiger (Poughkeepsie-esq) and the wind.  And proved they wanted and
deserved that tough lead.  Although the Tiger came bounding back, against
that torrential blizzard of hail, the scarred and hassled Tigers never quite
reached the decisive and dominating force of the not so Dazed or Confused
posse.

Having not actually seen the finals I hope someone else will make comment on
the game, and tell this story of domination, pain and plight..  

Hokey, the scores on the doors as it were...

1.  Ea... Grazed & Confused - WINNERS
2.  Gra... Easy Tiger
3.  Cyrille
4.  Excess Bee
5.  Li'l Shef
6. Blue Arse Flies
7.  Chevron Action Flash - SPIRIT
8.  Maiden Bungle

9.   Shocker!  - PLATE
10. Inbreds
11. Yorkie Bar Kids
12. Zoo
13. SuperFly
14. Salt n Sauce
15. Flyght Club
16. We've Got Guns (so you better...)

17. Red  - SPOON....?
18. Martha and the Mootones
19. SkuMy
20. Discophilia

MVPs from the final were; Harry & Aura
Party Animal award went to Arun and Tom...  respect!



Further Appreciations
Thanks to all the campers for making sure they used the bins and for the
cleanup afterwards.  Most appreciated.

Major thanks go to SuperFliers - Dani 'Décor', Dene***, Big Boy***, Neil***,
Badelf***, Ant***, Richenda (the under-appreciated masseur), Alex***,
Sleepy/Rafiki/Kev of 'Highness Sounds'***, Jonah and Dave (Security).
Griff/Vicky/Alan of Highfields for making troubled water seem soooo smooth.
Nottingham City Council... for being helpful.
And specially the girls and guys who stayed to help with 'dropping' that
Marquee.

Maximum Respect



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A few days ago Sweden's Christian Sandstrom smashed the world record at a 
distance competition in the United States (Big D In The Desert IV).

He launched his golf disc two hundred and fifty metres.
For reference it was an Innova Champion DX Valkerie 170g.

His arm was later found 10ft off the ground lodged in a cactus.

For more info visit OBmegazine.com
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I didn't make it obvious - but it IS beach ultimate on Sunday and not just 
lazing around eating ice cream - although that's definately on the agenda as 
well.

Will


>From: "Will Parker" <willparker77@hotmail.com>
>To: willparker77@hotmail.com
>Subject: Bourne on SAND and GRASS!!!!!
>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:03:05 +0100
>
>Hi all,
>
>Bournemouth 11th/12th May - it's just got better!
>
>Sat: Bournemouth Sports Club. Great pitches, facilities, free camping, 
>music. Fun!
>
>Sun: Sandbanks beach. Definately one of Britains best beaches. Gorgeous 
>setting right next to the impressive Poole harbour, nice, clean, fine, deep 
>sand. Even more fun!
>
>Sound good? I don't think I can make it any better without giving away free 
>beer and steak. (Maybe I'll do that next year!)
>
>Cost: 90 pounds per team. I've still got space and I want to get as many 
>teams as I can to make it as fun as I can.
>
>Pickup: No team? I'm more than happy to stick people together to form some 
>teams. Mail me. [There will be a charge for this (90 quid divided by the 
>number in the team) - Sorry but I've got to cover my costs!]
>
>Will
>Druids/DHB
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The following teams are entered into Tour 2

1	Marty McFly
2	Headrush
3	Blue Arse Flies 1
4	Blue Arse Flies 2
5	Leeds Leeds Leeds
6	Un Poco Loco
7	Slipdisc 1
8	Slipdisc 2
9	North South Devide
10	Rats Of Nimh
11	Fluid Druids
12	Smash & Grab
13	Atomic Horse
14	Strange Blue
15	Hammerage 2
16	Trigger Happy
17	Albatross
18	Clapham 1
19	Clapham 2
20	JB7
21	Teamshark
22	Hammerage 1
23	Uriel
24	Chuft
25	Red
26	Chevron
27	STD Ultimate
28	Fuscon
29	Mud Culture
30	Flight Club
31	Skunks
32	Red 2

Skunks can you e-mail me contact info as you onlu sent me the cheque

Rob

Rob
Marty McFly team Captain
Uriel First team Captain
University of exeter
Mob-07813663840

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The schedule for the weekend didn't include a crossover
after the first pool.  There is always a pressure between
time in the schedule on one hand and the need to make sure
overly strong or weak pools don't dominate the final
standings.  I personal think there should be a cross over in
the Tours, but I would be interested to get a feel from
Britdisc.

Basically, I think that the scheduals should always consider 
a cross over after the first pool when scheduals are drawn 
up.  This means that overly weak or strong pools don't end 
up placing their teams too high or too low in the second 
day.  This is partically important on the first event in a 
new season as positions rarely go to seeding.  

Hokey from our pool, the scores on the doors as it were...
2 seed > 1.  Ea... Grazed & Confused - WINNERS
8 seed > 3.  Cyrille
13 seed > 11. Yorkie Bar Kids
11 seed > 12. Zoo
18 seed > 18. Martha and the Mootones

Felt that we had a partically tough pool (though would
certainly accept that the standard of the overall event was
very high (with respect to the previous year)).  having
worked very hard in our games with ybk and zoo we were
dumped into the bottom 4.  Having a crossover ensures that
there are teams in the next 8 who shouldn't be in the bottom
8 and vis versa.  I'm not saying that we would have
necessarily won that cross over but that is what it is there
for.  I would have felt stronger about putting this case if 
we had rumbled red in the bottom 4 as well, but it wasn't to 
be. 

End of the day - t'was a small thing set against a fantastic 
tournament.  I really enjoyed it.  

What do people think about, time pressures/dangers of 'one
game wonders' vs equaty between pools?

cheers
ben
martha and the mootones

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actually, Zoo came 11th and YBK came 12th.

Hedge
(YBK / Rats of NIMH)

>9.   Shocker!  - PLATE
>10. Inbreds
>11. Yorkie Bar Kids
>12. Zoo
>13. SuperFly
>14. Salt n Sauce
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>16. We've Got Guns (so you better...)

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I agree, Shocker would certainly have liked another
bash at getting top eight  after having an excellent
game against excess bee but then forgetting how to
play ultimate when we played maiden bungle. The
problem is how to cross over when you have 20 teams,
unless top 4 get a bye as in open tour 1, so cross
over is 5-12, 13-20. The games, however, at mixed tour
1 were pretty short anyway, and we still finished our
last game at 7.30(got to love those cold showers), so
I guess there just wasn't any scheduling time... The
good thing is that the seedings should be sorted out
for next tour, so that the pools are fairer (apart
from the pool that gets chevvy out for revenge ;))

nicole
shocker
--- Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> The schedule for the weekend didn't include a
> crossover
> after the first pool.  There is always a pressure
> between
> time in the schedule on one hand and the need to
> make sure
> overly strong or weak pools don't dominate the final
> standings.  I personal think there should be a cross
> over in
> the Tours, but I would be interested to get a feel
> from
> Britdisc.
> 
> Basically, I think that the scheduals should always
> consider 
> a cross over after the first pool when scheduals are
> drawn 
> up.  This means that overly weak or strong pools
> don't end 
> up placing their teams too high or too low in the
> second 
> day.  This is partically important on the first
> event in a 
> new season as positions rarely go to seeding.  
> 
> Hokey from our pool, the scores on the doors as it
> were...
> 2 seed > 1.  Ea... Grazed & Confused - WINNERS
> 8 seed > 3.  Cyrille
> 13 seed > 11. Yorkie Bar Kids
> 11 seed > 12. Zoo
> 18 seed > 18. Martha and the Mootones
> 
> Felt that we had a partically tough pool (though
> would
> certainly accept that the standard of the overall
> event was
> very high (with respect to the previous year)). 
> having
> worked very hard in our games with ybk and zoo we
> were
> dumped into the bottom 4.  Having a crossover
> ensures that
> there are teams in the next 8 who shouldn't be in
> the bottom
> 8 and vis versa.  I'm not saying that we would have
> necessarily won that cross over but that is what it
> is there
> for.  I would have felt stronger about putting this
> case if 
> we had rumbled red in the bottom 4 as well, but it
> wasn't to 
> be. 
> 
> End of the day - t'was a small thing set against a
> fantastic 
> tournament.  I really enjoyed it.  
> 
> What do people think about, time pressures/dangers
> of 'one
> game wonders' vs equaty between pools?
> 
> cheers
> ben
> martha and the mootones
> 


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I agree, Shocker would certainly have liked another
bash at getting top eight  after having an excellent
game against excess bee but then forgetting how to
play ultimate when we played maiden bungle. The
problem is how to cross over when you have 20 teams,
unless top 4 get a bye as in open tour 1, so cross
over is 5-12, 13-20. The games, however, at mixed tour
1 were pretty short anyway, and we still finished our
last game at 7.30(got to love those cold showers), so
I guess there just wasn't any scheduling time... The
good thing is that the seedings should be sorted out
for next tour, so that the pools are fairer (apart
from the pool that gets chevvy out for revenge ;))

nicole
shocker
--- Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> The schedule for the weekend didn't include a
> crossover
> after the first pool.  There is always a pressure
> between
> time in the schedule on one hand and the need to
> make sure
> overly strong or weak pools don't dominate the final
> standings.  I personal think there should be a cross
> over in
> the Tours, but I would be interested to get a feel
> from
> Britdisc.
> 
> Basically, I think that the scheduals should always
> consider 
> a cross over after the first pool when scheduals are
> drawn 
> up.  This means that overly weak or strong pools
> don't end 
> up placing their teams too high or too low in the
> second 
> day.  This is partically important on the first
> event in a 
> new season as positions rarely go to seeding.  
> 
> Hokey from our pool, the scores on the doors as it
> were...
> 2 seed > 1.  Ea... Grazed & Confused - WINNERS
> 8 seed > 3.  Cyrille
> 13 seed > 11. Yorkie Bar Kids
> 11 seed > 12. Zoo
> 18 seed > 18. Martha and the Mootones
> 
> Felt that we had a partically tough pool (though
> would
> certainly accept that the standard of the overall
> event was
> very high (with respect to the previous year)). 
> having
> worked very hard in our games with ybk and zoo we
> were
> dumped into the bottom 4.  Having a crossover
> ensures that
> there are teams in the next 8 who shouldn't be in
> the bottom
> 8 and vis versa.  I'm not saying that we would have
> necessarily won that cross over but that is what it
> is there
> for.  I would have felt stronger about putting this
> case if 
> we had rumbled red in the bottom 4 as well, but it
> wasn't to 
> be. 
> 
> End of the day - t'was a small thing set against a
> fantastic 
> tournament.  I really enjoyed it.  
> 
> What do people think about, time pressures/dangers
> of 'one
> game wonders' vs equaty between pools?
> 
> cheers
> ben
> martha and the mootones
> 


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London Ultimate League - Skills Clinics 


Ultimate is a game that can be played by just about anyone but,
like most sports, the more you know and learn, the more fun it is.
And, unlike some sports, the best ultimate players are usually more
than happy to share what they know about the game. The league's
Clinic Team will be putting on clinics throughout the year. 

Ultimate is the biggest co-ed sport in the world(!) and it focuses
on Spirit, Fun and Friendly Competition. Players of all skill
levels are invited to come out for a "back to basics" Skills Clinic
followed by a 'pick-up' game.

Do you have a friend, co-worker or family member who is interested
in learning more about Ultimate? Then the Basic Skills Clinic would
be a good place to start! People of all ages and fitness levels are
welcome.


 

The next Skills Clinic will take place 

*1pm, Saturday, May 4th, Regent's Park 
(There is a regular pick-up game here at this time also)

This map shows the general area where we will be, but look around
for low-flying objects when you get there.
http://www.londonultimate.org/league/maps.html

To register your interest for this day, please email Kynan at
"kacheng@yahoo.com" with a subject of "4 May Clinic".  
[Volunteers please also contact me as above]




What will I learn at the Skills Clinic?

At the Skills Clinic you'll learn about the rules of Ultimate and
the basic skills and knowledge needed to successfully play. Each
clinic will last about 90 minutes. 

BASIC - throwing, catching, rules, terminology, marking a handler,
handling a marker, effective cutting
INTERMEDIATE - tactics: stacking, person-person defence

At each Clinic there will be a pick-up game so you can practice
your skills!

 

Will it cost me anything?

Not a chance! London League Clinics are free, but donations are
definitely accepted - everything collected will be used to promote
Ultimate in London. Clinics are being kindly provided by volunteers
from teams throughout London League. 


 

What do I need to bring?

Not much:

* A disc if you have one
* A light-coloured shirt 
* A dark-coloured shirt
* Water


 

How can I learn more?

The best way to learn to play Ultimate is to Play Ultimate! During
the summer you can probably find a pick-up game (or organise your
own) on almost any day of the week.

If you'd like to learn more online, two excellent resources are
www.ultimatehandbook.com and www.whatisultimate.com


 

Mailing List

The London League mailing list will have announcements and news
about the League and Clinics. It's also a place where you can talk
about games, post results, etc. It's recommended that all players
join the list. There are two ways to subscribe. Either:

a) Visit www.yahoogroups.com/group/londonleague with your web
browser or
b) Send an empty e-mail message to 
londonleague-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


 



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 little honest effort.
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Subject: BOY, 15, EARNS $71,000 IN 5 WEEKS!

$$$"TRUE STORY" SEEN ON ABC 20-20

BOY, 15, MAKES 71 THOUSAND DOLLARS IN 5 WKS!! U CAN 2!!

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: This is the one!

PARENTS OF 15 YEAR-OLD FINDS $71,000 CASH
HIDDEN IN HIS CLOSET

Does this headline look familiar? Of course it does. You
most likely have just seen this story recently featured on a major nightly news program (USA).

His mother was cleaning and putting laundry away when
she came across a large brown paper bag that was
suspiciously buried beneath some clothes and a skateboard
in the back of her 15-year-old son's closet. Nothing could
have prepared her for the shock she got when she opened
the bag and found it was full of cash. Five-dollar bills, twenties, fifties, and hundreds -- all neatly rubber-banded in labeled piles.

"My first thought was that he had robbed a bank," said the 41-year-old woman. "There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag -- that's more than my husband earns in a year."

The woman immediately called her husband at the
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"About a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post
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"I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to different banks with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I would usually tell the lady at the bank counter that my dad had sent me in [to exchange the money] and he was outside waiting for me. One time the lady gave me a really strange look and told me that she would not be able to do it for me and my dad would have to come in and do it, but I just rode to the next bank down the street (laughs)."

Surprisingly, the boy did not have any reason to be
afraid. The reporting news team examined and investigated
the so-called "chain-letter" the boy was sending out and
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was completely legal according to;

US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and
1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also
in the code of federal regulations, Volume 16,
Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service
must be exchanged for money received.

Every five-dollar bill that he received contained a little
note that read, "Please send me report number XYX." This
simple note made the letter legal because he was
exchanging a service (a "How-To" Report)
for a five-dollar fee.

Here is the letter that the 15-year-old was sending out by E-mail. You can do the exact same thing he was doing, simply by following the instructions in this letter!

Dear Friends & Future Millionaires:

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV:

Make over a half-million dollars every 4 to 5 months from
your home for an investment of only a one-time $25 expense - (U.S.
dollars) --

THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET !

===================================================

BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!

Before you say "Bull," please read the following. This
is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal.

Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega-bucks with only $25 out-of-pocket cost. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER.

This is what one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity, I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received a total of $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam Headland, Fort Lee, New Jersey.


==================================================

Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around
for a long time but I never believed in it. Yet one day when
I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my
$25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and joila .....
3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything.'' More testimonials later but first .


=====================================================

PRINT THIS NOW FOR
YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE

=====================================================


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to
5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following..

THEN READ IT
AGAIN and AGAIN!!!


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND
YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED!!!!

INSTRUCTIONS:
=============

Order all 5 reports shown on the list below. For each report, send $5 CASH (US $), THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING, and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems.

When you place your order, make sure you order each of
the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you
can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR
TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few days you will
receive, via e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000s of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer.

IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are
listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list,
in any way other than what is instructed below in step ''1 through 6'' or you will lose out on the majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter it, it will NOT work!!! People have tried to put their friends' or relatives' names on all five, thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, many have tried to be greedy, but then nothing happened. So DO NOT try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the rewards!!!

1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5.

This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune.

2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO
REPORT # 5.

3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO
REPORT # 4.

4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO
REPORT # 3.

5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO
REPORT # 2

6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1
Position.

PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY!

==============================================
Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names,
and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER
CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well, just in case you
lose any data. To assist you with marketing your business
on the Internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide
you with invaluable marketing information which includes
how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands
of free classified ads and much more.

There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going:

METHOD #1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY


===============================================

Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see
how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved
send out only 5,000 e-mails each (VERY easy to do). Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Many people will send out hundreds of thousands of e-mails instead of only 5,000 each, and that is just as easy to do).

Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000
e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders
for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out
5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those
50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders.
That means--100 people responded and ordered Report # 2.
Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total
of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000
orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000
e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (a half-million dollars!).

Your total income in this example is:

1..... $50 +
2..... $500 +
3..... $5,000 +
4..... $50,000 +
5..... $500,000
Grand Total=$555,550.00

NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE
IT OUT ! THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER
HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF
MONEY !

======================================================

REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS ASSUMES ONLY 10 PEOPLE
ORDERING OUT OF THE 5,000 WHO YOU MAILED TO.

Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone, or half, or even one fourth of those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 150-million people on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more!


METHOD # 2: BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET

================================================

Advertising on the net is very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with METHOD # 1 and involve METHOD #2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you Must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same-day service on all orders.

This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report.

AVAILABLE REPORTS
==================

ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY.

Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each
Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is
concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper.
On one of those sheets of paper, write:
-the NUMBER & the NAME of the REPORT you are ordering,
-YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS,
-and YOUR NAME AND POSTAL ADDRESS.

Hint: If you wrap your $5 bill in card or tag weight paper, light cannot shine through and expose your money and will be less likely to disappear in the mail.


PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW:

==============================================

REPORT #1:"The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net"

Order Report #1from:

Brian Smith

819 Tanninger Dr.

Indianapolis, IN  46239

USA
==============================================
REPORT # 2: The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Net Order Report #2: from:

Safecastle Enterprises

PO Box 113

Prior Lake, MN  55372

USA

==============================================

REPORT #3: Secret to Multilevel Marketing on the Net

Order Report #3 from:

C Smith

107 Don Allen Rd.

Louisville, KY  40207-3901

USA

==============================================

REPORT #4: "How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MLM & the Net"

Order Report #4 from:

Henry Jones

PO Box 69

Glenwood, IL  60425

USA

==============================================

REPORT #5: "How to Send Out One-Million E-mails for Free"

Order Report #5 from:

Michael Hale

3691 South Main Street

Marion, NY  14505

USA

==============================================

Please remember that your $5 bills are going all around the world and delivery of the report could take as long as 2-4wks.

=====================================================


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you
do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2
weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do.
After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you do not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in!

THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER:

Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are
placed in front of a different report. You can KEEP TRACK
of your PROGRESS by watching which report
people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO
GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN.

There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from
this business !!!

=======================================================

FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS
PROGRAM:

You have just received information that can give you
financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. DO NOT change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and have moved the others to #2 through # 5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out, the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials, and opportunity to become financially independent.

IT IS UP TO YOU NOW !

Here are some MORE TESTIMONIALS:
"My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago.
I am an accountant with a major U.S. corporation and I
make pretty good money. When I received this program I
grumbled to Jody about receiving 'junk mail.' I made fun
of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I 'knew' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and a few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old 'I told you so' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received a total of $147,200.00-all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her 'hobby.'" -Mitchell Wolf, Chicago, Illinois

===========================================================
"Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to
make up my mind to participate in this plan. But
conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back. I was surprised when I found my medium-size post office box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big." -Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada

========================================================

"I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else. Eleven months passed then it luckily came again. I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks."
- Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. ======================================================

"It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy
money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days, the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00, and by the end of the third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, thanks to the Internet."
- Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand

========================================================

ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND
GET STARTED ON YOUR
ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM!


=========================================================

This letter is not intended to be a guarantee, nor does it provide any guaranteed promise of earnings. Your response rate may be different than that of other participants in this program.




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Subject: BOY, 15, EARNS $71,000 IN 5 WEEKS!

$$$"TRUE STORY" SEEN ON ABC 20-20

BOY, 15, MAKES 71 THOUSAND DOLLARS IN 5 WKS!! U CAN 2!!

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: This is the one!

PARENTS OF 15 YEAR-OLD FINDS $71,000 CASH
HIDDEN IN HIS CLOSET

Does this headline look familiar? Of course it does. You
most likely have just seen this story recently featured on a major nightly news program (USA).

His mother was cleaning and putting laundry away when
she came across a large brown paper bag that was
suspiciously buried beneath some clothes and a skateboard
in the back of her 15-year-old son's closet. Nothing could
have prepared her for the shock she got when she opened
the bag and found it was full of cash. Five-dollar bills, twenties, fifties, and hundreds -- all neatly rubber-banded in labeled piles.

"My first thought was that he had robbed a bank," said the 41-year-old woman. "There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag -- that's more than my husband earns in a year."

The woman immediately called her husband at the
car-dealership where he worked to tell him what she had discovered. He came home right away and they drove together to the boy's school and picked him up. Little did they suspect that where the money came from was more shocking than actually finding it in the closet.

As it turns out, the boy had been sending out, via E-mail, a type of "Report" to E-mail addresses that he obtained off of the Internet. Everyday after school for the past two months, he had been doing this right on his computer in his bedroom.

"I just got the E-mail one day and I figured what the heck. I put my name on it like the instructions said and I started sending it out," said the clever 15-year-old.

The E-mail letter listed 5 addresses and contained
instructions to send one $5 dollar bill to each person on the list, then delete the address at the top and move the other addresses Down , and finally to add your name to the top of the list.

The letter goes on to state that you would receive several thousand dollars in five-dollar bills within 2 weeks if you sent out the letter with your name at the top of the 5-address list. "I get junk E-mail all the time, and really did not think it was going to work," the boy continued. Within the first few days of sending out the E-mail, the Post Office Box that his parents had gotten him for his video-game magazine subscriptions began to fill up with, not magazines, but envelopes containing $5 bills.

"About a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post
office and my box had 1 magazine and about 300 envelopes stuffed in it. There was also a yellow slip that said I had to go up to the [post office] counter. I thought I was in trouble or something (laughs)." He went on, "I went up to the counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me. I had to ride back home and empty out my backpack because I could not carry it all."

Over the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the E-mail. "The money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and stashing it in the closet. I barely had time for my homework." He had also been riding his bike to several of the banks in his area and exchanging the $5 bills for twenties, fifties, and hundreds.

"I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to different banks with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I would usually tell the lady at the bank counter that my dad had sent me in [to exchange the money] and he was outside waiting for me. One time the lady gave me a really strange look and told me that she would not be able to do it for me and my dad would have to come in and do it, but I just rode to the next bank down the street (laughs)."

Surprisingly, the boy did not have any reason to be
afraid. The reporting news team examined and investigated
the so-called "chain-letter" the boy was sending out and
found that it was not a chain-letter at all. In fact, it
was completely legal according to;

US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and
1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also
in the code of federal regulations, Volume 16,
Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service
must be exchanged for money received.

Every five-dollar bill that he received contained a little
note that read, "Please send me report number XYX." This
simple note made the letter legal because he was
exchanging a service (a "How-To" Report)
for a five-dollar fee.

Here is the letter that the 15-year-old was sending out by E-mail. You can do the exact same thing he was doing, simply by following the instructions in this letter!

Dear Friends & Future Millionaires:

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV:

Make over a half-million dollars every 4 to 5 months from
your home for an investment of only a one-time $25 expense - (U.S.
dollars) --

THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET !

===================================================

BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!

Before you say "Bull," please read the following. This
is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal.

Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega-bucks with only $25 out-of-pocket cost. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER.

This is what one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity, I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received a total of $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam Headland, Fort Lee, New Jersey.


==================================================

Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around
for a long time but I never believed in it. Yet one day when
I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my
$25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and joila .....
3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything.'' More testimonials later but first .


=====================================================

PRINT THIS NOW FOR
YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE

=====================================================


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to
5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following..

THEN READ IT
AGAIN and AGAIN!!!


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND
YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED!!!!

INSTRUCTIONS:
=============

Order all 5 reports shown on the list below. For each report, send $5 CASH (US $), THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING, and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems.

When you place your order, make sure you order each of
the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you
can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR
TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few days you will
receive, via e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000s of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer.

IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are
listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list,
in any way other than what is instructed below in step ''1 through 6'' or you will lose out on the majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter it, it will NOT work!!! People have tried to put their friends' or relatives' names on all five, thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, many have tried to be greedy, but then nothing happened. So DO NOT try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the rewards!!!

1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5.

This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune.

2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO
REPORT # 5.

3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO
REPORT # 4.

4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO
REPORT # 3.

5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO
REPORT # 2

6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1
Position.

PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY!

==============================================
Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names,
and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER
CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well, just in case you
lose any data. To assist you with marketing your business
on the Internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide
you with invaluable marketing information which includes
how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands
of free classified ads and much more.

There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going:

METHOD #1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY


===============================================

Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see
how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved
send out only 5,000 e-mails each (VERY easy to do). Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Many people will send out hundreds of thousands of e-mails instead of only 5,000 each, and that is just as easy to do).

Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000
e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders
for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out
5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those
50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders.
That means--100 people responded and ordered Report # 2.
Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total
of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000
orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000
e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (a half-million dollars!).

Your total income in this example is:

1..... $50 +
2..... $500 +
3..... $5,000 +
4..... $50,000 +
5..... $500,000
Grand Total=$555,550.00

NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE
IT OUT ! THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER
HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF
MONEY !

======================================================

REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS ASSUMES ONLY 10 PEOPLE
ORDERING OUT OF THE 5,000 WHO YOU MAILED TO.

Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone, or half, or even one fourth of those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 150-million people on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more!


METHOD # 2: BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET

================================================

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HAT Tournament!

Bored & no plans for Monday?

This Bank Holiday Monday is Student Nationals in Nottingham.  We will be
holding an impromptu HAT event at the Victoria Embankment, Meadows.  Close
to or on the site of last years Co-ed Nationals.

Want to come?

Directions

Map available at
http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=europe&X=457000&Y=338000&scale
=25000&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&coordsys=gb&db=&overviewmap=&scale
=50000
Note the grass area below the word 'Meadows' & above 'West Bridgford'?

>From North
Exit M1 at Jct 25, follow the road until reach the inner city ring road.
You see signs for Beeston, West Bridgford, Clifton and M1 (South).  This is
the A52 follow it until  2nd major junction, then LEFT onto the A453 (Signs
will direct you to the Meadows and City Centre).  Then follow directions
below

>From South
Exit M1 at Jct 24, follow the A453, several miles into the city, 6miles in
you will see the overpass ahead, take the overpass and exit at the next slip
road.  (Signs will direct you to the Meadows and the City Centre).  Then
follow directions below

>From SNOUT
Exit Highfields compound.  Turn RIGHT follow the road to the roundabout,
take the second exit M1(South), follow the overpass to the next junction
(A453) take the first exit and follow the directions below

The Directions Below
One mile down this road (After Harry Ramsden's), you will find the first
proper RIGHT turn.  Follow the road to the Roundabout,  after which you can
park up and locate the pitches (either over the footbridge or further along
this road about 500m.

If you have any difficulty finding the location: generally or specifically. 
Please call Sam on 07866 336643
Games begin around 10am


Sam
nottingham ultimate
0115 914 6254
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reys@south-nottingham.ac.uk


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Subject: Medical thanks and crossovers
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 22:54:22 +0100
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Dear Discophillia, scummy and the two haze pick ups at the coed

I didn't get a chance to thakyou on the day becuase I did not get back =
from
hospital in time, but I would like to say a big thank you to those who =
rang
the ambulance, and helped me after I broke my wrist in an endzone =
incident
on the Sunday.  In particular to Liz, Tom Mendez and another girl who I
don't know what your name is  for sorting me out unil the ambulance =
arrived (sorry you all have to read this but i have on other way of =
contacting the people involved).
For those who are interested it turned out to be a bad break and I have =
had
surgery that has left me with a external scaffold and internal plate =
pinning
my wrist together, but I am fine due to the good old NHS and I will soon =
be
back to getting no where near D'ing discs.  I heard someone got knocked
unconscious about five minutes after I departed, who would have thought =
the
race for 17th place would have produced such a brutal game of =
ulltimate...

Dear the rest of you

Crossovers are essential there is nothung more frustrating than been =
edged
out of a place in the top or middle eight by losing a game by a point in =
the
pool stage, without having the chance to regain entry.  If you finish in =
the
top you should have to prove your worth in that position by defending =
it,
Besides we all like playing ultimate and a crossover gives us an extra =
game,
at the coed this would have been much better as there would have been =
four
games on both days (not that I made it passed the first game..,)

Once again thanks to all those who helped me out

Lorrie 'Curly Wurley hair'  Monaghan=20
Flyght Club\Random Fling\ and one time Discophilliac (cheers Jayne for
letting me play)


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Dear Discophillia, scummy and the two =
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becuase I did=20
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thank you=20
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in an=20
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Mendez and=20
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out unil=20
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other way=20
of contacting the people involved).<BR>For those who are interested it =
turned=20
out to be a bad break and I have had<BR>surgery that has left me with a =
external=20
scaffold and internal plate pinning<BR>my wrist together, but I am fine =
due to=20
the good old NHS and I will soon be<BR>back to getting no where near =
D'ing=20
discs.&nbsp; I heard someone got knocked<BR>unconscious about five =
minutes after=20
I departed, who would have thought the<BR>race for 17th place would have =

produced such a brutal game of ulltimate...<BR><BR>Dear the rest of=20
you<BR><BR>Crossovers are essential there is nothung more frustrating =
than been=20
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point=20
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If you=20
finish in the<BR>top you should have to prove your worth in that =
position by=20
defending it,<BR>Besides we all like playing ultimate and a crossover =
gives us=20
an extra game,<BR>at the coed this would have been much better as there =
would=20
have been four<BR>games on both days (not that I made it passed the =
first=20
game..,)<BR><BR>Once again thanks to all those who helped me=20
out<BR><BR>Lorrie&nbsp;'Curly Wurley hair' &nbsp;Monaghan <BR>Flyght =
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play)</FONT><BR></FONT><FONT =
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Dear Discophillia, scummy and the two haze pick ups at the coed

I didn't get a chance to thakyou on the day becuase I did not get back =
from
hospital in time, but I would like to say a big thank you to those who =
rang
the ambulance, and helped me after I broke my wrist in an endzone =
incident
on the Sunday.  In particular to Liz, Tom Mendez and another girl who I
don't know what your name is  for sorting me out unil the ambulance =
arrived.
For those who are interested it turned out to be a bad break and I have =
had
surgery that has left me with a external scaffold and internal plate =
pinning
my wrist together, but I am fine due to the good old NHS and I will soon =
be
back to getting no where near D'ing discs.  I heard someone got knocked
unconscious about five minutes after I departed, who would have thought =
the
race for 17th place would have produced such a brutal game of =
ulltimate...

Dear the rest of you

Crossovers are essential there is nothung more frustrating than been =
edged
out of a place in the top or middle eight by losing a game by a point in =
the
pool stage, without having the chance to regain entry.  If you finish in =
the
top you should have to prove your worth in that position by defending =
it,
Besides we all like playing ultimate and a crossover gives us an extra =
game,
at the coed this would have been much better as there would have been =
four
games on both days (not that I made it passed the first game..,)

Once again thanks to all those who helped me out

Lorrie 'Curly Wurley hair'  Monaghan=20
Flyght Club\Random Fling\ and one time Discophilliac (cheers Jayne for
letting me play)


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>Dear Discophillia, scummy and the two =
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becuase I did=20
not get back from<BR>hospital in time, but I would like to say a big =
thank you=20
to those who rang<BR>the ambulance, and helped me after I broke my wrist =
in an=20
endzone incident<BR>on the Sunday.&nbsp; In particular to Liz, Tom =
Mendez and=20
another girl who I<BR>don't know what your name is&nbsp; for sorting me =
out unil=20
the ambulance arrived.<BR>For those who are interested it turned out to =
be a bad=20
break and I have had<BR>surgery that has left me with a external =
scaffold and=20
internal plate pinning<BR>my wrist together, but I am fine due to the =
good old=20
NHS and I will soon be<BR>back to getting no where near D'ing =
discs.&nbsp; I=20
heard someone got knocked<BR>unconscious about five minutes after I =
departed,=20
who would have thought the<BR>race for 17th place would have produced =
such a=20
brutal game of ulltimate...<BR><BR>Dear the rest of =
you<BR><BR>Crossovers are=20
essential there is nothung more frustrating than been edged<BR>out of a =
place in=20
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the<BR>top you=20
should have to prove your worth in that position by defending =
it,<BR>Besides we=20
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the coed=20
this would have been much better as there would have been four<BR>games =
on both=20
days (not that I made it passed the first game..,)<BR><BR>Once again =
thanks to=20
all those who helped me out<BR><BR>Lorrie&nbsp;'Curly Wurley hair'=20
&nbsp;Monaghan <BR>Flyght Club\Random Fling\ and one time Discophilliac =
(cheers=20
Jayne for<BR>letting me play)</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR FRIENDS THAT DO!
THANKS


This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you know
I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.

Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united 
action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the USA, offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" 
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just 
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves 
by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was 
a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a 
plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!

Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol. But we CAN 
have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest 
oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any 
petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their 
prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, 
we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers.
By the power of email this message can reach those millions of people in 
just a few days (or hours).

Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please 
pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

ps:
Two final notes, added after this email was written:
petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical industry. We pay to dispose 
of their waste product!
Esso is the worlds most profitable company, with an annual profit of about 
17.5 billion dollars

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How do you know Phillip Hollsworth of the USA  doesn't  just work for
another oil company out to make more money then huh?  Or am i just cynical?







"andrew jamieson" <inventive_@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002
09:48:33

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Subject:    A novel idea (not spam, please read)


EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR FRIENDS THAT DO!
THANKS


This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you know
I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.

Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united
action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the USA, offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves
by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it
was
a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a
plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!

Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol. But we CAN
have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price
war.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest
oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any
petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their
prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
impact,
we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers.
By the power of email this message can reach those millions of people in
just a few days (or hours).

Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you,
please
pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

ps:
Two final notes, added after this email was written:
petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical industry. We pay to dispose
of their waste product!
Esso is the worlds most profitable company, with an annual profit of about
17.5 billion dollars

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Not to be a pain in the ass and spoil your fun. But if you all did a bit of
research you would realise that it is not the oil companies that are to
blame but the tax the government impose on petrol. Of the price you pay 80%
is tax. The price which oil companies such as Esso and BP charge is less in
the UK than any other country in Europe. Yes you can enjoy cheaper prices
at supermarkets but there again you pay for the quality fuel you get. In
other words if you want decent fuel don't use the supermarkets.

Secondly boycott all you want. It does not affect the fuel companies. It
just means people fill their tanks on a different day. You still need
petrol

Jesper





duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002 10:13:00

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Subject:  Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read)



How do you know Phillip Hollsworth of the USA  doesn't  just work for
another oil company out to make more money then huh?  Or am i just cynical?







"andrew jamieson" <inventive_@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002
09:48:33

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Subject:    A novel idea (not spam, please read)


EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR FRIENDS THAT DO!
THANKS


This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you know
I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.

Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united
action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the USA, offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves
by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it
was
a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a
plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!

Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol. But we CAN
have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price
war.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest
oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any
petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their
prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
impact,
we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers.
By the power of email this message can reach those millions of people in
just a few days (or hours).

Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you,
please
pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

ps:
Two final notes, added after this email was written:
petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical industry. We pay to dispose
of their waste product!
Esso is the worlds most profitable company, with an annual profit of about
17.5 billion dollars

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Thirdly, this is a frisbee mailing list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com [mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com]
Sent: 03 May 2002 10:23
To: duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; andrew jamieson
Subject: Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read)


Not to be a pain in the ass and spoil your fun. But if you all did a =
bit of
research you would realise that it is not the oil companies that are to
blame but the tax the government impose on petrol. Of the price you pay =
80%
is tax. The price which oil companies such as Esso and BP charge is =
less in
the UK than any other country in Europe. Yes you can enjoy cheaper =
prices
at supermarkets but there again you pay for the quality fuel you get. =
In
other words if you want decent fuel don't use the supermarkets.

Secondly boycott all you want. It does not affect the fuel companies. =
It
just means people fill their tanks on a different day. You still need
petrol

Jesper





duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002 10:13:00

Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk


To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
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Subject:  Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read)



How do you know Phillip Hollsworth of the USA  doesn't  just work for
another oil company out to make more money then huh?  Or am i just =
cynical?







"andrew jamieson" <inventive_@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002
09:48:33

Sent by:    owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk


To:    britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
cc:

Subject:    A novel idea (not spam, please read)


EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR FRIENDS THAT =
DO!
THANKS


This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you know
I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.

Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, =
united
action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the USA, offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies =
just
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" =
ourselves
by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than =
it
was
a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with =
a
plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!

Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol. But we =
CAN
have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price
war.

Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two =
biggest
oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling =
any
petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce =
their
prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
impact,
we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers.
By the power of email this message can reach those millions of people =
in
just a few days (or hours).

Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you,
please
pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

ps:
Two final notes, added after this email was written:
petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical industry. We pay to =
dispose
of their waste product!
Esso is the worlds most profitable company, with an annual profit of =
about
17.5 billion dollars

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London,
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thirdly, this is a frisbee mailing list.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com">mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 03 May 2002 10:23</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; andrew =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: A novel idea (not spam, please =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Not to be a pain in the ass and spoil your fun. But =
if you all did a bit of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>research you would realise that it is not the oil =
companies that are to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>blame but the tax the government impose on petrol. =
Of the price you pay 80%</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>is tax. The price which oil companies such as Esso =
and BP charge is less in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the UK than any other country in Europe. Yes you can =
enjoy cheaper prices</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>at supermarkets but there again you pay for the =
quality fuel you get. In</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>other words if you want decent fuel don't use the =
supermarkets.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Secondly boycott all you want. It does not affect the =
fuel companies. It</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>just means people fill their tanks on a different =
day. You still need</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>petrol</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Jesper</FONT>
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<BR>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002 =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A novel idea (not spam, =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the &quot;don't buy =
petrol on a certain day&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>campaign that was going around last April or May! =
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with us!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop =
buying petrol. But we CAN</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>have an impact on petrol prices if we all act =
together to force a price</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>war.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Here's the idea:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical =
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with the amount of spam sent in the last month alone i am beginning to
doubt that is holding true.







Andrew Godber <Andrew.Godber@arup.com> on 03/05/2002 10:41:43

To:    "'Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com'" <Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com>,
       duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com
cc:    britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, andrew jamieson <inventive_@hotmail.com>

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Thirdly, this is a frisbee mailing list.




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Is this really a discussion for britdisc?

If it is then: Tax them all off the road.  Make the car 
drivers pay.  Create the Bicycle Utopia today I tell you.  
Lets all cycle to edinburgh on our holidays.  Hell let's 
turn our roads in to runways and become a country of 
handgliders.  The world is our oyster, our crankshaft, our 
twined wheels of freedom.


On Fri, 3 May 2002 Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com wrote:

> Not to be a pain in the ass and spoil your fun. But if you all did a bit of
> research you would realise that it is not the oil companies that are to
> blame but the tax the government impose on petrol. Of the price you pay 80%
> is tax. The price which oil companies such as Esso and BP charge is less in
> the UK than any other country in Europe. Yes you can enjoy cheaper prices
> at supermarkets but there again you pay for the quality fuel you get. In
> other words if you want decent fuel don't use the supermarkets.
> 
> Secondly boycott all you want. It does not affect the fuel companies. It
> just means people fill their tanks on a different day. You still need
> petrol
> 
> Jesper
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002 10:13:00
> 
> Sent by:  owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> 
> 
> To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> cc:   "andrew jamieson" <inventive_@hotmail.com>
> 
> Subject:  Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read)
> 
> 
> 
> How do you know Phillip Hollsworth of the USA  doesn't  just work for
> another oil company out to make more money then huh?  Or am i just cynical?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "andrew jamieson" <inventive_@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002
> 09:48:33
> 
> Sent by:    owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk
> 
> 
> To:    britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> cc:
> 
> Subject:    A novel idea (not spam, please read)
> 
> 
> EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR FRIENDS THAT DO!
> THANKS
> 
> 
> This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you know
> I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.
> 
> Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united
> action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the USA, offered this good idea:
> 
> This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
> campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
> laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves
> by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it
> was
> a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a
> plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!
> 
> Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol. But we CAN
> have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price
> war.
> 
> Here's the idea:
> 
> For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest
> oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any
> petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their
> prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
> impact,
> we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers.
> By the power of email this message can reach those millions of people in
> just a few days (or hours).
> 
> Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you,
> please
> pass this message on.
> 
> PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.
> 
> ps:
> Two final notes, added after this email was written:
> petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical industry. We pay to dispose
> of their waste product!
> Esso is the worlds most profitable company, with an annual profit of about
> 17.5 billion dollars
> 
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Hi BD, 

One for Barry and any one else interested in coverage of the sport. We got some coverage for the Student Outdoor Nationals.

Currently we're front page news on www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham the more permanent links are below.


Features index:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/spotlight/index.shtml

Tournament preview:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/spotlight/2002/05/ultimate_frisbee_tournament.shtml

The game:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/spotlight/2002/05/ultimate_frisbee_the_game.shtml

Check it out.
Cheers 
Tom

PS Could some one forward this to student Ultimate mailing list.
PPS Looking forward to a huge weekend in the sun.

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Now, now...there is some relavance to frisbee.
 
We all know what it's like to play on an empty tank...

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Godber [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]
Sent: 03 May 2002 10:42
To: 'Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com'; duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; andrew jamieson
Subject: RE: A novel idea (not spam, please read)



Thirdly, this is a frisbee mailing list. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com [ mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com
<mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com> ] 
Sent: 03 May 2002 10:23 
To: duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com 
Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; andrew jamieson 
Subject: Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read) 


Not to be a pain in the ass and spoil your fun. But if you all did a bit of 
research you would realise that it is not the oil companies that are to 
blame but the tax the government impose on petrol. Of the price you pay 80% 
is tax. The price which oil companies such as Esso and BP charge is less in 
the UK than any other country in Europe. Yes you can enjoy cheaper prices 
at supermarkets but there again you pay for the quality fuel you get. In 
other words if you want decent fuel don't use the supermarkets. 

Secondly boycott all you want. It does not affect the fuel companies. It 
just means people fill their tanks on a different day. You still need 
petrol 

Jesper 





duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002 10:13:00 

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Subject:  Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read) 



How do you know Phillip Hollsworth of the USA  doesn't  just work for 
another oil company out to make more money then huh?  Or am i just cynical? 







"andrew jamieson" <inventive_@hotmail.com>@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002 
09:48:33 

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Subject:    A novel idea (not spam, please read) 


EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR FRIENDS THAT DO! 
THANKS 


This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you know 
I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer. 

Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united 
action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the USA, offered this good idea: 

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" 
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just 
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves 
by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it 
was 
a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a 
plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us! 

Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol. But we CAN 
have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price 
war. 

Here's the idea: 

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest 
oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any 
petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their 
prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an 
impact, 
we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. 
By the power of email this message can reach those millions of people in 
just a few days (or hours). 

Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, 
please 
pass this message on. 

PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK. 

ps: 
Two final notes, added after this email was written: 
petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical industry. We pay to dispose 
of their waste product! 
Esso is the worlds most profitable company, with an annual profit of about 
17.5 billion dollars 

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<DIV><SPAN class=812305609-03052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Now, 
now...there is <EM>some</EM> relavance to frisbee.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=812305609-03052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=812305609-03052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We all 
know what it's like to play on an empty tank...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Andrew Godber 
  [mailto:Andrew.Godber@arup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 03 May 2002 
  10:42<BR><B>To:</B> 'Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com'; 
  duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; andrew 
  jamieson<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: A novel idea (not spam, please 
  read)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P><FONT size=2>Thirdly, this is a frisbee mailing list.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: 
  Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com [<A 
  href="mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com">mailto:Jesper.Snorgaard@csplc.com</A>]</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: 03 May 2002 10:23</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: 
  duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Cc: 
  britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; andrew jamieson</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: 
  Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read)</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>Not to be a pain in the ass and spoil your fun. But if you all 
  did a bit of</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>research you would realise that it is not 
  the oil companies that are to</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>blame but the tax the 
  government impose on petrol. Of the price you pay 80%</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>is tax. The price which oil companies such as Esso and BP charge is 
  less in</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>the UK than any other country in Europe. Yes 
  you can enjoy cheaper prices</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>at supermarkets but there 
  again you pay for the quality fuel you get. In</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>other 
  words if you want decent fuel don't use the supermarkets.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Secondly boycott all you want. It does not affect the fuel 
  companies. It</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>just means people fill their tanks on a 
  different day. You still need</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>petrol</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Jesper</FONT> </P><BR><BR><BR><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>duncan.mcgowan@uk.pkf.com@warwick.ac.uk on 03/05/2002 
  10:13:00</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Sent by:&nbsp; owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>To:&nbsp;&nbsp; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>cc:&nbsp;&nbsp; "andrew jamieson" &lt;inventive_@hotmail.com&gt;</FONT> 
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  <P><FONT size=2>Subject:&nbsp; Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read)</FONT> 
  </P><BR><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>How do you know Phillip Hollsworth of the USA&nbsp; 
  doesn't&nbsp; just work for</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>another oil company out to 
  make more money then huh?&nbsp; Or am i just cynical?</FONT> 
  </P><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>"andrew jamieson" &lt;inventive_@hotmail.com&gt;@warwick.ac.uk 
  on 03/05/2002</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>09:48:33</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Sent by:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk</FONT> 
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  <P><FONT size=2>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>cc:</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A novel idea (not spam, please 
  read)</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR 
  FRIENDS THAT DO!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>THANKS</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you 
  know</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre 
  by the summer.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some 
  intelligent, united</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the 
  USA, offered this good idea:</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a 
  certain day"</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>campaign that was going around last April 
  or May! The oil companies just</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>laughed at that because 
  they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>by 
  refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>was</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>a problem for them. BUT, whoever 
  thought of this idea, has come up with a</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>plan that can 
  really work. Please read it and join with us!</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying 
  petrol. But we CAN</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>have an impact on petrol prices if 
  we all act together to force a price</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>war.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Here's the idea:</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the 
  two biggest</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>oil companies (which now are one), ESSO 
  and BP. If they are not selling any</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>petrol, they will 
  be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have 
  an</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>impact,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>we need to reach 
  literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>By 
  the power of email this message can reach those millions of people in</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>just a few days (or hours).</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense 
  to you,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>please</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>pass this 
  message on.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>ps:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Two final notes, added after this 
  email was written:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>petrol is a waste product of the 
  petrochemical industry. We pay to dispose</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>of their 
  waste product!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Esso is the worlds most profitable 
  company, with an annual profit of about</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>17.5 billion 
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Subject: Re: A novel idea (not spam, please read)
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> < rant>
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> think that the price of petrol (and diesel) should go UP not down! =8CBut W=
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> I hear you cry..
> Well as we all know, cars emit these nasty fumes that mess with our clima=
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> and make the weather more unpredictable and unstable. Those of us who wer=
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> Nottingham last weekend had A TASTE OF THINGS TO COME.
> Put petrol prices up! It might be the only way to save Ultimate from beco=
ming
> an indoor sport!
>=20
> < /rant>
>=20
> Jack
>=20
> PS and I object to BD being used for political opinions (other than my ow=
n).
>=20
>=20
>=20
> EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR FRIENDS THAT DO!
> THANKS
>=20
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> This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you know
> I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.
>=20
> Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united
> action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the USA, offered this good idea:
>=20
> This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
> campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
> laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselve=
s
> by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it =
was
> a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a
> plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!
>=20
> Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol. But we C=
AN
> have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price w=
ar.
>=20
> Here's the idea:
>=20
> For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest
> oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling a=
ny
> petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce thei=
r
> prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impa=
ct,
> we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers.
> By the power of email this message can reach those millions of people in
> just a few days (or hours).
>=20
> Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, ple=
ase
> pass this message on.
>=20
> PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.
>=20
> ps:
> Two final notes, added after this email was written:
> petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical industry. We pay to dispos=
e
> of their waste product!
> Esso is the worlds most profitable company, with an annual profit of abou=
t
> 17.5 billion dollars
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> _________________________________________________________________
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Monaco"><TT>&lt; rant&gt;<BR>
<BR>
I don&#8217;t naturally jump to the defence of any government, but I person=
ally think that the price of petrol (and diesel) should go UP not down! &#82=
16;But Why?&#8217; I hear you cry..<BR>
Well as we all know, cars emit these nasty fumes that mess with our climate=
 and make the weather more unpredictable and unstable. Those of us who were =
in Nottingham last weekend had A TASTE OF THINGS TO COME.<BR>
Put petrol prices up! It might be the only way to save Ultimate from becomi=
ng an indoor sport!<BR>
<BR>
&lt; /rant&gt;<BR>
<BR>
Jack<BR>
<BR>
PS and I object to BD being used for political opinions (other than my own)=
.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR - PLEASE PASS TO ON TO YOUR FRIENDS THAT DO!<B=
R>
THANKS<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
This may work if we all do it - please pass this to people you know<BR>
I hear we are going to hit close to 89p a litre by the summer.<BR>
<BR>
Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united <=
BR>
action. Phillip Hollsworth, in the USA, offered this good idea:<BR>
<BR>
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the &quot;don't buy petrol on a certain day=
&quot; <BR>
campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just <B=
R>
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to &quot;hurt&quot; =
ourselves <BR>
by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it wa=
s <BR>
a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a <=
BR>
plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!<BR>
<BR>
Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying petrol. But we CAN=
 <BR>
have an impact on petrol prices if we all act together to force a price war=
.<BR>
<BR>
Here's the idea:<BR>
<BR>
For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest <=
BR>
oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any=
 <BR>
petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their =
<BR>
prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact=
, <BR>
we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers.<BR>
By the power of email this message can reach those millions of people in <B=
R>
just a few days (or hours).<BR>
<BR>
Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, pleas=
e <BR>
pass this message on.<BR>
<BR>
PLEASE HOLD OUT : THIS CAN REALLY WORK.<BR>
<BR>
ps:<BR>
Two final notes, added after this email was written:<BR>
petrol is a waste product of the petrochemical industry. We pay to dispose =
<BR>
of their waste product!<BR>
Esso is the worlds most profitable company, with an annual profit of about =
<BR>
17.5 billion dollars<BR>
<BR>
_________________________________________________________________<BR>
Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. <BR>
http://www.hotmail.com<BR>
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Here is the complete list of entries as of the closing date. There are 40
teams, with one team on the waiting list (because they didn't send the entry
in quickly enough). Unfortunately, there were no entries in the women's
division, so there will just be an open division. If any other team feels
they should have entered but didn't manage to get the entry form to Rob in
time, then good luck at persuading us to invent a 41 team schedule on just
12 pitches.

Directions, Accommodation (other than Double Locks), Seedings (I can't see
them being very different from the list order here, but that's not
guaranteed), Format, First games, etc. will all be appearing on a web site
very soon.

      Chevron Action Flash
      Clapham 1
      Fluid Druids
      Un Poco Loco
      Clapham 2
      Blue Arse Flies 1
      Teamshark
      Smash & Grab
      Whey
      Red 1
      Leeds Leeds Leeds
      Hammerage 1
      Fusion
      Headrush
      Strange Blue
      Atomic Horse
      STD
      Bad Habits
      Skunks
      Mud Culture
      Revolution
      Hammerage 2
      Flyght Club
      Marty McFly
      Slipdisc 1
      Swivel
      Butt
      Blue Arse Flies 2
      Red 2
      Kamaya Maya
      JB7
      Rats Of Nimh
      Trigger Happy
      Albatross
      North South Divide
      Slipdisc 2
      Uriel
      Chuft
      St. Peters
      Discoordinated

Kev & Rob.
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Anyone who went to Lisbon last year, or who's maybe looking 
forward to going there this year, or even those who just don't know 
what they're missing at one of Europe's best tournaments, Pablo 
has finally managed to get his usual array of photos online,

http://www.pabs2000.com/vaca/lisbon01/index.html

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there are a few tops lost and found a bag with little sheff disc boots,two
tops one with ow on and tramp,you have a week to get back to us before it
goes to charity mate.see you all at leeds
  dene

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Hi everyone,

Seeing as there are now enough of us staying in
cardiff during non-termtime we are starting a regular
training session throughout the summer. 

The main training session will be Wednesdays 6.30 till
dark.
We also play on saturdays at 12.00 when there are no
tournaments.

directions:
http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=europe&X=320000&Y=177500&scale=50000&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&coordsys=gb&db=hcgaz&overviewmap=&scale=50000&multimap.x=153&multimap.y=186

The place is called blackweir, i'm sure people can use
multimap and zoom out/ in to get it's location. There
is parking right by the "r" of blackweir on the map.
This on your right off North Road just after the large
junction with column road by an ambulance station.

Everyone is welcome. We think there may be some
students who play elsewhere but will be back in
cardiff for the summer or maybe some more local people
who we don't know about. Or if you are in the area and
fancy a game then come along.

We will start this week with a view to continuing
year-round.

Hope to see some new faces in Cardiff

Dave B
Un Poco Loco and Li'l Shef

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Information for anyone coming to the Bournemouth tournament this weekend:

- Captains meeting will be at 9:15 on Saturday morning with play starting at 
9:30. It is anticipated that all teams will be playing first game so make 
sure you arrive in good time

- Camping is available Fri night at the Sports Club. Please let me know if 
you intend to do this. Toilets and showers will be open all night. I’m going 
to try and put some signs up to mark out the camping area. If I don’t manage 
this, please ask in the Sports Club where to go. The bar will be open.

- Directions to both venues are below. If you are coming for just the Sunday 
– I’m planning on a slightly later start. Aim to get there at 9:30.

- Any major problems, my mobile is 07810 645469

Will

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Directions to Bournemouth Sports Club (Sat)

Bournemouth Sports Centre is just off the B3073 on the West side of the 
airport. See the link below for a map:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=409950&Y=97845&A=Y&Z=3

>From the North and East
1) Get onto the M27 Westbound. This will turn into the A31 dual carriageway.
2) At Ringwood, follow signs to Bournemouth Airport turning onto the A338.
3) After about 6 miles, come off at Blackwater Junction, turn right at the 
end of the slip road and follow signs to the airport, turning left at the 
roundabout after about a mile.
4) Continue past the airport entrance and you will come to a roundabout.
5) Turn right and the sports club entrance is immediately on the left.

>From the West
If arriving from the West, Come via the A31 and at Wimborne Minster, turn 
right onto the B3073, following through Parley Cross arriving at the sports 
centre from the other direction.


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Directions to Sandbanks (Sun)
Sandbanks is on the B3369 in Poole. See the link below:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=403925&Y=87189&A=Y&Z=5

>From the North and East
1) Get onto the M27 Westbound. This will turn into the A31 dual carriageway.
2) At Ringwood, follow signs to Bournemouth Airport turning onto the A338.
3) After about 10 miles (going straight on over two roundabouts) you will 
come to the County Gates Gyratory.
4) Take the B3065 (The Avenue) sign-posted to Sandbanks.
5) Follow the road past Branksome Chine, through Canford Cliffs Village, 
turning left at the roundabout.
6) Free Parking is available in the side streets on the peninsula (drive 
past the car park and take any road on the right). Otherwise park in 
Sandbanks main car park. Don’t forget to buy a ticket (1hr 
60p:2hrs/£1.20:3hrs/£1.80:4hrs/£2.60:All day/£6 – It’s better to buy a 4 
hour ticket then top up if needed rather than buying an all dayer.)





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Y'ello,

Just a quick one to say that the web-site for the tournament details is done
now, a few bits and pieces about how we're going to raise money for Sport Relief
to put on but all the info you'll need is there.  If you have any questions then
just e-mail me.


http://www.fluidltd.co.uk/brummiifive-0/


Also, a reminder that the deadline for entry is the 31st of May, as we have to
pay a deposit in early June, with the tournament on the 10th/11th August.  Send
£85 cheques to me:

Simon Statham
37 York Street
Harborne
Birm
B17 0HG

Alternatively you can seek me out at Tour 2, find Slipdisc then look for the guy
stood on the sideline not allowed to play!

Si.
(Slipdisc)




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From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com>
To: "'Britdisc'" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Looking for team called 'standard pleasure unit'
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Can somebody from "Standard Pleasure Unit" (you're on the waiting list for
Talampaya) please get in touch with me.

VITO


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From: "Robin Karfoot" <palmerstonpark@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Announcing The Exeter Hat
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Uriel is proud to present the annual Exeter Hat on the 29-30th June 2002

Sun + Ultimate + Party =3D Fun!

The venue is the same as Tour II, ie Duckes Meadow, Exeter.
Camping is free at the Double Locks, which is hosting the party.

Entrance is a bargain at =A35 per person.
You can either sign up at Tour II, or just pay on arrival.
I am endeavouring to speak to as many teams as I can at Tour II,=20
but if I miss you out, just find Rob (joint Tour II organiser) or any of =
Uriel and they will point you in my direction.

It would be great to get a few more students than last year. =20
I realise it is outside most Uni's term time and a bit out of the way, =
but if you put in the effort to get down here,=20
we will do our best to ensure you are not disappointed.=20

Finally, the eagle eyed amongst you may have spotted that the Exeter Hat =
coincides with the World Cup final. =20
Rest assured that if England are in it, you will definitely be able to =
see it. =20
Otherwise, I'm not sure at the moment because those of you who know the =
venue will know it is not conducive to showing football. =20
However, I am a big football fan myself, so I may just be able to work =
something out....



Please e-mail palmerstonpark@hotmail.com or r.karfoot@ex.ac.uk with =
enquiries as I am sure to have left something important out.


Robin Karfoot
Uriel

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Uriel is proud to present the annual =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sun + Ultimate + Party =3D =
Fun!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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person.</FONT></DIV>
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teams as I=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but if I miss you out, just find Rob =
(joint Tour II=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would be great to get a&nbsp;few =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>we will do our best to ensure you are =
not=20
disappointed.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Finally, the eagle eyed amongst you may =
have=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rest assured that if England are in it, =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please e-mail <A=20
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I'm looking for a lift to tour2 from the Luton/bedfordshire area. Is anyone
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Copied the following from r.s.d - I have been to a few of these in the past
and they are really great fun. Unfortunately I'll miss the 2002 edition,
but might make the trip to the USA some other year (from New Zealand).

Cheers

Sam

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Subject:    Masters Overall World Championships
Date:       8 May 2002 12:19:10 -0700
From:       cyberstork@earthlink.net (Dan Stork Roddick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc


If you're over 35 and you've haven't been playing in overall events, you
might consider this upcoming opportunity.

The information and entry form for the 2002 World Masters Overall
Championship hosted by NEFA is now up on the Masters information page at:

    http://www.dtworld.com/

The meet will be held July 15-20 in Worcester, MA. This annual event brings
together many pioneers of the sport and has age categories for both men and
women from age 35 to age 60 and over. It's a full - format competition,
inculding disc golf, freestyle, discathon, ddc, scf, accuracy and distance.
If you've been mainly playing ultimate, you may be especially well prepared
for discathon, distance and accuracy. Although the competion is high,
newcomers are especially welcome.

If this summer in New England doesn't work for you, we will be in Madison,
WI for 2003, San Diego, CA in 2004 and Santa Cruz, CA in 2006. (2005 is
availble for a non-west coast host).

Hope we'll see you there!

Stork


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It appears to me that medical cover is not provided at tournaments for one 
of two reasons:
1) The cost is prohibitive
2) The tournament directors make a profit (Not aimed at any t.d. in 
particular) at the expense of medical care.

On the issue of medical care, I have taken the initiative and done some 
searching on costs.
I contacted St John's Nottingham about getting an example quote for the last 
tournament (SNOUT)
with the facts as:
Tournament on 4 - 5 May

2 day's cover needed: Sat and Sun, 9 am - 6pm on both days.

Injuries seen are mainly grazes, sprains, and occasional broken bones and 
the like.

The estimate cost for this will be approximately £160 for the weekend (£80 a 
day) for 2 St John Ambulance people.

The maximum cost envisaged will be £110 a day (+ VAT) , but this will be the 
highest cost. To me this sounds like very good value, with the cost per day 
being as little as 27 pence a day, or just over 50 pence for the weekend per 
player.
This extra cost seems to be very important for the reassurance a St John's 
medic will bring.

Extra Facts: Each county has different policies on payment so this is not a 
UK standard

There are national standards in place towards the running of such events - 
such as the Green guide (A guide to safety at sports grounds by the Health 
and Safety Executive) and its colourful companion  the purple guide (the 
event safety guide, a guide to health and safety and welfare at music and 
similar events).

The purple guide lays down a basic structure and guide for first aid cover, 
which the green guide does not stipulate so much.  Ultimately (no pun 
intended) it may be worth getting a risk assessment for the event.

To me it appears that by setting up some official guidelines now will result 
in the level of first aid cover being up to the standard of relevant 
guidance.  Finally the ultimate choice is to be prepared to be sued by a 
competitor because the t.d. did not arrange first aid cover and done a 
appropriate risk assessment.  Are any t.d's willing to go to the courts and 
answer why appropriate HSE guidance was not followed.

Can anyone confirm if t.d.'s are aware of this literature and more 
importantly implement the minimum standards?  I admit I was not aware of 
them when I was a t.d. for the Loughborough nationals this year.

Your comments please.

Jonty Leese
Ex-Purple Haze
Now Free Agent


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This is not a dig at St. Johns ambulance service, I've appreciated their
services in the past, but I personally don't think they provide much
reassurance at ultimate tourneys in the sense that everybody is capable of
applying a plaster, disinfectant or an ice pack and many of us have first
aid experience anyway. Apart from possible insurance purposes I don't
believe St. johns are necessary. Worse injuries will require an ambulance or
paramedic anyway. I believe we should look into other possibilities.
Are there any alternatives to St. Johns? How about putting the
responsibility on the individual team by making each team have at least 1 or
2 certified first aiders and  first aid pack?

Right, I'm assuming the position for a public flogging!

VITO

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Re putting the responsability on the teams...

The first aid course required is four days long and costs upwards of 200
pounds. Mine is a student team and we hardly have the money for
transport to tournies in Scotland. It is desirable, but expensive.

Robin 
Stirling Blaze.

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To be part of a rostered team when do you/did you have to roster by to
play on the tour (specifically Tour 2)?

Can you only have 1 (unrostered) guest?

Where are these rules written down?

Thanks, sorry to be ignorant

Piers


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I've got to agree with Vito. I've got my St. Johns First Aid at Work
training which qualifies me as a trained first aider and have used St. Johns
at tournaments before, and I consider them to be a waste of money. They
really can't do much. You certainly get one of them to relocate a dislocated
finger.

At Exeter (next weekend for Tour 2) we have often decided not to bother with
any cover other than having first aiders, an ice box, compress, sports tape
and stuff you'd normally find in a first aid kit (which legally cannot be
much). With A&E just 3 minutes away, there really is little point in having
further cover, and I should know having been a frequent visitor there.

We have decided to hire a physio though for both days. The cost is around
£100 a day, and we believe, far more useful than basic first aid cover.

I don't think the cost is prohibitive, and I don't believe a TD would be
putting profit before safety. Nor do I believe anyone becomes a TD for the
money. For the record, all profits from Tour 2 are being split between the
hosting team and a charity, as has been the case from every tournament I've
been involved in organising; but that's just my choice.

Kev.

PS Directions and B&B lists for Tour 2 are going out tomorrow. We are
clashing with the Devon County Show so a lot of accommodation would have
already gone (and been booked up to a year ago). Please aim to arrive Friday
or early Saturday as motorway traffic will be heavy in Devon.
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In an attempt to point out to Piers just how ignorant he is (because it is
my duty), I tried to find the information on the UKultimate website. One
would've thought this would be the central repository of such information
and it is. 

http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/tour2002rules.htm

but is there any reason why there is no link to this page anywhere? God
knows what else is hidden in this directory...

I'm currently trying all possible filenames in www.ukultimate.com/pics/ to
see if those Ravilious nude pics really exist...

Hedge
(Rats of NIMH)

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From: PIERS FLEMING [mailto:p.fleming@lancaster.ac.uk]
Sent: 10 May 2002 13:54
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Subject: Eligibility question


To be part of a rostered team when do you/did you have to roster by to
play on the tour (specifically Tour 2)?

Can you only have 1 (unrostered) guest?

Where are these rules written down?

Thanks, sorry to be ignorant

Piers

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Hello 
Having read with interest the responses to the Medicare issue, I feel i should respond.
Fortunately in Nottingham, the hospital and therefore Medical college are less than half a mile from the tournament site.  We have more than one medic within the ranks of the team, and several first aiders. 
St Johns Ambulance... cost approximately £160 as suggested in a previous email.  I am at this point awaiting our finance to be returned as they did not show.  They were booked.  We realised that there was no cover at the Mixed Tour 1 event.  And our own Tom Mendez took on the role with his more than adequate kit.  Being a qualified Doctor, we felt this was enough at the time.  There was no opportunity to discuss this between events, but as Mendez was unable to attend SNOUT, we purchased a first aid kit and endeavoured to have a 1st Aider at the Tents at all times. 
Over both weekends, 1st Aid was a major part of the ongoing concern and we feel that we did quite well, generally.  As Mr Vitali suggested recently, there is no real need for St Johns, and when i did speak to them, their response was that they had a busy period and could not cover either events.  There is a major need for First Aid, Quality Advice and Equipment at most events, and possible an on-site ambulance if the venue is distant from an A&E.  (When i fractured my clavicle (collar bone) some time ago at a tourny, the ambulance had just left with another patient leaving the site without cover at all... I waited over a half hour for its return, and finally had a friend drive me to the hospital - if nothing else this demonstates that there is a need to look at what is actually neccesary)
We did have 1disolcation at the ankle and 1 at the shoulder, a few twists and sprains, one break and lots of generals stuff, cuts, strains and cramps.... I would be interested to hear of others (this does not include Lorrie of Random/Discophilia with the external scaffolding - anyone got a piture yet?).  I have heard this suggested before, perhaps it would be an essential item, the UKU 1st Aid kit at events and also perhaps a designated group of 1st Aiders who could cover some events each. 
Alternatives to St Johns  (who have a reputation for unavailability, i would recommend the Red Cross or the Paramedics, who both offer similar services.  I would like to see the Green and Purple guides and would consider them being issued to ALL Tournament Directors.  H&S is a very important matter.  Cost is not really prohibitive, and i cannot believe that a TD would knowledgably ignore the need for 1st Aid with a view to making a profit 
We also have an accident book and when i looked through the injuries list (my own observations)  over half the injuries could have been prevented through WARMING UP or better equipment.  People with ankle/knee injuries who insist on playing should definately wear some kind of support or protective. 
Just to summize. 
Yes we booked St Johns, no, they didn't attend and yes we attempted to cover the situation. 
Yes, we think, there should be more focus on Medic cover 'officially' particularly with regards as to what is neccesary to such a kit & presonnel. 
Our apologies that your first aid needs were not met. 
sam 



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<P>Hello 
<P>Having read with interest the responses to the Medicare issue, I feel i should respond.
<P>Fortunately in Nottingham, the hospital and therefore Medical college are less than half a mile from the tournament site.&nbsp; We have more than one medic within the ranks of the team, and several first aiders. 
<P>St Johns Ambulance... cost approximately £160 as suggested in a previous email.&nbsp; I am at this point awaiting our finance to be returned as they did not show.&nbsp; They were booked. &nbsp;We realised that there was no cover at the&nbsp;Mixed Tour 1&nbsp;event.&nbsp; And our own Tom Mendez took on the role with his more than adequate kit.&nbsp; Being a qualified Doctor, we felt this was enough at the time.&nbsp; There was no opportunity to discuss this between events, but as Mendez was unable to attend SNOUT, we purchased a first aid kit and endeavoured to have a 1st Aider at the Tents at all times. 
<P>Over both weekends, 1st Aid was a major part of the ongoing concern and we feel that we did quite well, generally.&nbsp; As Mr Vitali suggested recently, there is no real need for St Johns, and when i did speak to them, their response was that they had a busy&nbsp;period and could not cover either events.&nbsp; There is a major need for First Aid, Quality Advice and Equipment at most events, and possible an on-site ambulance if the venue is distant from an A&amp;E.&nbsp; (When i fractured my clavicle (collar bone) some time ago at a tourny, the ambulance had just left with another patient leaving the site without cover at all... I waited over a half hour for its return, and finally had a friend drive me to the hospital - if nothing else this demonstates that there is a need to look at what is actually neccesary)
<P>We did have 1disolcation at the ankle and 1 at the shoulder,&nbsp;a few&nbsp;twists and sprains, one break and lots of generals stuff, cuts, strains and cramps.... I would be interested to hear of others (this does not include Lorrie of Random/Discophilia with the external scaffolding - anyone got a piture yet?).&nbsp; I have heard this suggested before, perhaps it would be an essential item, the UKU 1st Aid kit at events and also perhaps a designated group of 1st Aiders who could cover some events each. 
<P>Alternatives to St Johns&nbsp; (who have a reputation for unavailability, i would recommend the Red Cross or the Paramedics, who both offer similar services.&nbsp; I would like to see the Green and Purple guides and would consider them being issued to ALL Tournament Directors.&nbsp; H&amp;S is a very important matter.&nbsp; Cost is not really prohibitive, and i cannot believe that a TD would knowledgably ignore the need for 1st Aid with a view to making a profit 
<P>We also have an accident book and when i looked through the injuries list (my own observations)&nbsp; over half the injuries could have been prevented through WARMING UP or better equipment.&nbsp; People with ankle/knee injuries who insist on playing should definately wear some kind of support or protective. 
<P>Just to summize. 
<P>Yes we booked St Johns, no, they didn't attend and yes we attempted to cover the situation. 
<P>Yes, we think,&nbsp;there should be more focus on Medic cover 'officially' particularly with regards as to what is neccesary to such a kit &amp; presonnel. 
<P>Our apologies that your first aid needs were not met. 
<P>sam </P><BR><BR><P>Sam</P>
<P>Nottingham Ultimate</P>
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<P>1 Far Flung (CHAMPIONS 2002) - Glasgow<BR>2 Jedi -
Leeds<BR>&lt;P&gt;3 Mythago - Bristol<BR>&lt;P&gt;4
Ow! - Oxford<BR>&lt;P&gt;5 Haze -
Loughboro<BR>&lt;P&gt;6 Bears - Warwick<BR>&lt;P&gt;7
Phat 'Eds - Shaffield<BR>&lt;P&gt;8 Strange Blue -
Cambridge<BR>&lt;P&gt;9 Sublime (PLATE) -
Portsmouth<BR>&lt;P&gt;10 Uriel -
Exeter<BR>&lt;P&gt;11 Disc Doctors - Imperial
College<BR>&lt;P&gt;12 Fish - Lancaster<BR>&lt;P&gt;13
Ro Sham Bo - Edinburgh<BR>&lt;P&gt;14 Northern Lights
- Durham<BR>&lt;P&gt;15 Flatball Project - St
Andrews<BR>&lt;P&gt;16 Fly TNT - Nottingham
Trent<BR>&lt;P&gt;17 Mute Animal Unit (SPOON) -
Manchester<BR>&lt;P&gt;18 Yorkie Bar Kids (YBK) -
York<BR>&lt;P&gt;19 Stop Throwing Discs (STD) -
Brunel<BR>&lt;P&gt;20 Picnic - Plymouth<BR>&lt;P&gt;21
BLT - Bath<BR>&lt;P&gt;22 Ro Sham Bo II (Highest rise
of seeding &amp;amp; - Edinburgh<BR>Highest 2nd
team)<BR>&lt;P&gt;23 Mohawks - Brighton<BR>&lt;P&gt;24
Bears 2 - Warwick<BR>&lt;P&gt;25 Ow! II (CHOPSTICK?) -
Oxford<BR>&lt;P&gt;26 Random Fling - Uni of
Nottingham<BR>&lt;P&gt;27 Mwnci See -
Aberystwyth<BR>&lt;P&gt;28 Mythago II -
Bristol<BR>&lt;P&gt;29 Shooting Stars - possibly
Dundee ?<BR>&lt;P&gt;30 Strange Blue II -
Cambs<BR>&lt;P&gt;31 Jesters (Longest Fall - sorry) -
Leicester<BR>&lt;P&gt;32 Northern Lights II -
Durham<BR>&lt;P&gt;33 Hulltimate - Hull<BR>&lt;P&gt;34
Phat 'Eds II - Sheffield<BR>&lt;P&gt;35 Skunks -
Southampton<BR>&lt;P&gt;36 Purple Haze II -
Loughboro<BR>&lt;P&gt;37 Disc-iples (Lowest First Team
- sorry) - Bradford<BR>&lt;P&gt;38 Flatball Project II
- St Andrews<BR>&lt;P&gt;39 Jedi II -
Leeds<BR>&lt;P&gt;40 STD II - Brunel<BR>
<P>&nbsp;
<P>sorry if there are mistakes.
<P>s</P>

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<P>&nbsp;1 Far Flung (CHAMPIONS 2002)
<P>2 Jedi 
<P>3 Mythago
<P>4 Ow!
<P>5 Haze
<P>6 Bears
<P>7 Phat 'Eds
<P>8 Strange Blue
<P>9 Sublime (PLATE)
<P>10 Uriel
<P>11 Disc Doctors
<P>12 Fish
<P>13 Ro Sham Bo
<P>14 Northern Lights
<P>15 Flatball Project
<P>16 Fly TNT
<P>17 Mute Animal Unit (SPOON)
<P>18 Yorkie Bar Kids (YBK)
<P>19 Stop Throwing Discs (STD)
<P>20 Picnic
<P>21 BLT
<P>22 Ro Sham Bo II (Highest rise of seeding &amp;
Highest 2nd team)
<P>23 Mohawks
<P>24 Bears 2
<P>25 Ow! II (CHOPSTICK?)
<P>26 Random Fling
<P>27 Mwnci See
<P>28 Mythago II
<P>29 Shooting Stars
<P>30 Strange Blue II
<P>31 Jesters (Longest Fall - sorry)
<P>32 Northern Lights II
<P>33 Hulltimate 
<P>34 Phat 'Eds II
<P>35 Skunks
<P>36 Purple Haze II
<P>37 Disc-iples (Lowest First Team - sorry)
<P>38 Flatball Project II
<P>39 Jedi II
<P>40 STD II
<P>Report to follow.....................................................</P>

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<P>&nbsp;3 teams by a vast majority were close to
winning Spirit.
<P>Brunel were very close
<P>Faltball were closer tho
<P>but NORTHEN LIGHTS should have their name in the
heavens
<P>SPIRIT Winners SNOUT 200"</P>

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Having 'qualified' first aiders isn't always enough, at Tour 1 last year I hurt
my leg quite badly (haven't played since!).  Got carried over to the first
aiders and they didn't have a clue!  They put a bandage on my calf and sent me
home.  Went to the hospital the next day and the doctor was amazed, I had torn
knee ligaments yet I was told to put the bandage on my calf!!

If you are going to have medical cover at a tournament, it has to be experienced
in sporting injuries or further damage can occur through poor advice.  Someone
who has got a St John's First Aid at work certificate will not have clue when it
comes to the sort of injuries that we can sustain.  Indeed, they could make
things worse.  Either have the St John's there, or have 999 programmed into your
phone!




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<P>Kevin</P>
<P>Great to hear you have an ice box - presumably with some ice in it! Personally I think this is one of the most important aspects of First Aid that should be provided at all tournaments.</P>
<P>When I got a black eye at Womens Indoor Nationals there was no ice, so I stuck my eye on a coldish railing outside - pretty stylish!<BR></P>
<P>Becca<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Kevin Lowe" <KEV_LOWE@HOTMAIL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <BRITDISC@CSV.WARWICK.AC.UK>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Medical Cover At Tournaments 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:58:25 +0100 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I've got to agree with Vito. I've got my St. Johns First Aid at Work 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;training which qualifies me as a trained first aider and have used St. Johns 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;at tournaments before, and I consider them to be a waste of money. They 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;really can't do much. You certainly get one of them to relocate a dislocated 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;finger. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;At Exeter (next weekend for Tour 2) we have often decided not to bother with 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;any cover other than having first aiders, an ice box, compress, sports tape 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;and stuff you'd normally find in a first aid kit (which legally cannot be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;much). With A&amp;E just 3 minutes away, there really is little point in having 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;further cover, and I should know having been a frequent visitor there. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;We have decided to hire a physio though for both days. The cost is around 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;£100 a day, and we believe, far more useful than basic first aid cover. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I don't think the cost is prohibitive, and I don't believe a TD would be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;putting profit before safety. Nor do I believe anyone becomes a TD for the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;money. For the record, all profits from Tour 2 are being split between the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;hosting team and a charity, as has been the case from every tournament I've 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;been involved in organising; but that's just my choice. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Kev. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;PS Directions and B&amp;B lists for Tour 2 are going out tomorrow. We are 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;clashing with the Devon County Show so a lot of accommodation would have 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;already gone (and been booked up to a year ago). Please aim to arrive Friday 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;or early Saturday as motorway traffic will be heavy in Devon. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;--- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;| Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 078121 05014 
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Hedge,

Your surname translates as 'Darkditch'

How apt.

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I don't feel I can stay out of this debate!
I've had several e-conversations over the last year about medical cover at=20
tournaments. If you search the archives you'll see it was one of several=20
questions I put to the prospective UK Ultimate executive candidates - and I=20
didn't feel it got a full response; certainly only a few candidates replied.
My feeling is that it is unrealistic to expect medical cover at a 'small'=20
tournament eg say 6-8 teams
However once you are talking about 4-600 players I think it is unrealistic=20
not to have medical cover. I have to agree with earlier comments that St=20
Johns are great at what they do, but we need sports experienced physios or=20
Doctors to deal with acute sports injuries. If players are willing to pay a=20
little extra then I may be able to build a reasonable number of physios and=20
Docs who are prepared to come and be 'on call'.
The days of Jackie Grant and I coming to tournaments for fun are over!=20
(neither of us have the time to spare any longer; anyway, if you want a=20
professional job done, you really have to pay the costs.) I really do need=20
plenty of notice though. Its no good asking for medical help a couple of=20
months before a tournement; 6 months would be a minimum. Physios and docs ar=
e=20
in short supply. The idea would be to entice a few I know to do it for the=20
experience (and the money) and once they see what a really great sport=20
Ultimate is - they will be hooked and want to do more. well - it happened to=
=20
me!
Even =A32-3 a player would probably pay for on 2 site physios and a doc. Les=
s=20
than the cost of a beer and a burger!
So -  for future organisers, if you want sports qualified practitioners,=20
allow for it in your budget and give me plenty of notice -  I'll try to help=
.

A guide; physios should be MCSP (ie chartered)
ACPSM is an extra worth looking for (sports qualified chartered physios)
Any Doc is good, but one with Dip Sports Med or MSc sports med is better
Masseurs are good but are not specifically trained for acute major trauma
Sports therapists may be good but again the training varies enormously.
Osteopaths and chiropracters may be very good at manipulation but may not fi=
t=20
the whole bill.=20

May all your injuries be little ones
Paul

Dr Paul Marfleet ('Ultimate Doc' since 1986!!)

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<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=3D2>I don't feel I can stay o=
ut of this debate!
<BR>I've had several e-conversations over the last year about medical cover=20=
at tournaments. If you search the archives you'll see it was one of several=20=
questions I put to the prospective UK Ultimate executive candidates - and I=20=
didn't feel it got a full response; certainly only a few candidates replied.
<BR>My feeling is that it is unrealistic to expect medical cover at a 'small=
' tournament eg say 6-8 teams
<BR>However once you are talking about 4-600 players I think it is unrealist=
ic not to have medical cover. I have to agree with earlier comments that St=20=
Johns are great at what they do, but we need sports experienced physios or D=
octors to deal with acute sports injuries. If players are willing to pay a l=
ittle extra then I may be able to build a reasonable number of physios and D=
ocs who are prepared to come and be 'on call'.
<BR>The days of Jackie Grant and I coming to tournaments for fun are over! (=
neither of us have the time to spare any longer; anyway, if you want a profe=
ssional job done, you really have to pay the costs.) I really do need plenty=
 of notice though. Its no good asking for medical help a couple of months be=
fore a tournement; 6 months would be a minimum. Physios and docs are in shor=
t supply. The idea would be to entice a few I know to do it for the experien=
ce (and the money) and once they see what a really great sport Ultimate is -=
 they will be hooked and want to do more. well - it happened to me!
<BR>Even =A32-3 a player would probably pay for on 2 site physios and a doc.=
 Less than the cost of a beer and a burger!
<BR>So - &nbsp;for future organisers, if you want sports qualified practitio=
ners, allow for it in your budget and give me plenty of notice - &nbsp;I'll=20=
try to help.
<BR>
<BR>A guide; physios should be MCSP (ie chartered)
<BR>ACPSM is an extra worth looking for (sports qualified chartered physios)
<BR>Any Doc is good, but one with Dip Sports Med or MSc sports med is better
<BR>Masseurs are good but are not specifically trained for acute major traum=
a
<BR>Sports therapists may be good but again the training varies enormously.
<BR>Osteopaths and chiropracters may be very good at manipulation but may no=
t fit the whole bill.=20
<BR>
<BR>May all your injuries be little ones
<BR>Paul
<BR>
<BR>Dr Paul Marfleet ('Ultimate Doc' since 1986!!)</FONT></HTML>

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Has there been any publicity on the level of cover we can expect from UKU
personal accident insurance?


stig

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various ramblings in response to Vito's intitial mail. 

Medical cover is the duty of the TD. FULL STOP.

1. It is also my experience that St Johns type/level of 1st aid is a waste
of time
2. first aid is imperative at tournaments, especially at tour events
3. 1st aid needs to be in the hands of professional medics 
4. medics should be in a place where they can BE FOUND!
5. There should be cross tournament communication (for big tournies, by
radio) so that emergencies can be quickly attended to.
6.  Accident reporting should become the norm at uku events
7. UKU should provide a standard accident report form for TDs, which should
be filled in for each "serious" injury, (especially if it may result in a
claim on UKU personal insurance); which should subsequently be lodged with
UKU.
8. There needs to be a greater level of support for TD's (particulalry in
UKU sanctioned events) from the UKU if this issue is to be improved. There
is already some help whcih you can get from Paul Marfleet, but this is not
online.
9. ukultimate.com should have a page specifically directed to TDs and should
include: public liability insurance details, accident report form, link to
upa tourny formats, H&S checklist, copies of Hughes' spreadsheets for
setting out tour events etc . . . .  Chris Berry has already expressed
interest in doing this. Maybe DoC should liaise with Chris to make this
happen as a part of the UKU website.


Stig 

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 Well I haven't played a tournament in a while, so maybe you want to disregard everything I say....
 
....for those of you still reading, I have been a TD and one of the reasons for being off the ultimate seen is running events in Ally Pally, a number of them being outdoor events, in a 200 acre park land....
 
so I feel I may have a little something to add to the debate....
 
The purple guide Sam mentioned, for those who don't know, is a very useful guide to people running outdoor events.  It gives the requirements for ratios for toilets, showers, medical team, security etc for all sorts of external events.
 
It's a really good guide, I know Ultimate and some 'fun tournaments' may not be anywhere near this stage, but from what I can gather Ultimate is growing fast, and some of these things need to be taken into account and planned into the future.
 
With regard to medical cover, I will add my Yes to I think it's necssary wherever possible.  
 
An alternative company we use is LMS- location Medical Service.  They cover several events for us here at Ally Pally and are often Paramedics doing a second job because of their shift patterns...
 
They are £15 / hour...minimum 6 hrs
Will often be able to cover an event with two weeks notice...don't know how far they cover in the country though...sorry
Based in Staines
Number is 07000 633 427 Fax 07000 633 329
 
Hope someone gets some use from those details.
 
For the really keen and dedicated there's the local council who have several guides for example, Places which have a Public Entertainments License (this would help with the Party too) has loads of useless rules and regs about what you can and can't do while operating events...there are some useful things to know in there though!
 
To summerise...
-Yes to medical cover wherever possible
-There are alternatives available aside from St Johns such as LMS, check them out
-Try some of the literature, such as the purple guide for further advice.
 
Hope that helps someone anyway :)
 
Fiona...
...Most recently Strawberry Jamming it in the London League!

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 <table cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 border=0 width=100% bgcolor=white><tr height=200><td width=100%><font size=2 color=black>Well I haven't played a tournament in a while, so maybe you want to disregard everything I say....<br />
 <br />
....for those of you still reading, I have been a TD and one of the reasons for being off the ultimate seen is running events in Ally Pally, a number of them being outdoor events, in a 200 acre park land....<br />
 <br />
so I feel I may have a little something to add to the debate....<br />
 <br />
The purple guide Sam mentioned, for those who don't know, is a very useful guide to people running outdoor events.  It gives the requirements for ratios for toilets, showers, medical team, security etc for all sorts of external events.<br />
 <br />
It's a really good guide, I know Ultimate and some 'fun tournaments' may not be anywhere near this stage, but from what I can gather Ultimate is growing fast, and some of these things need to be taken into account and planned into the future.<br />
 <br />
With regard to medical cover, I will add my Yes to I think it's necssary wherever possible.  <br />
 <br />
An alternative company we use is LMS- location Medical Service.  They cover several events for us here at Ally Pally and are often Paramedics doing a second job because of their shift patterns...<br />
 <br />
They are £15 / hour...minimum 6 hrs<br />
Will often be able to cover an event with two weeks notice...don't know how far they cover in the country though...sorry<br />
Based in Staines<br />
Number is 07000 633 427 Fax 07000 633 329<br />
 <br />
Hope someone gets some use from those details.<br />
 <br />
For the really keen and dedicated there's the local council who have several guides for example, Places which have a Public Entertainments License (this would help with the Party too) has loads of useless rules and regs about what you can and can't do while operating events...there are some useful things to know in there though!<br />
 <br />
To summerise...<br />
-Yes to medical cover wherever possible<br />
-There are alternatives available aside from St Johns such as LMS, check them out<br />
-Try some of the literature, such as the purple guide for further advice.<br />
 <br />
Hope that helps someone anyway :)<br />
 <br />
Fiona...<br />
...Most recently Strawberry Jamming it in the London League!</font></td></tr></table><p><hr><b>Join Excite! - <a href="http://www.excite.com" target=_top>http://www.excite.com</a></b><br>The most personalized portal on the Web!

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Go to http://tour2exeter.topcities.com for directions, B&B lists and initial
seedings (not confirmed). There will be more information going up just as
soon as I get a break in work.

Captain's meeting will be at 8:45, with first games starting at 9:00. I
cannot currently say who is playing first, so please don't ask for start
times. With the Devon County Show this weekend, I strongly recommend aiming
to get to the pitches early on the Saturday. B&B spaces may be very limited
in Exeter this weekend, with much being booked up months ago.

Kevin.
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Hi all,

if there is anyone heading West along the A35 and then
A30 to get to Exeter this weekend then would it be
possible to bum a lift from Dorchester and back on
either Friday evening or Saturday morning and in
return I'll get the beers in when we get there (or
contribute to petrol if that's more appropriate).

Cheers from a poor placement student at UWE (playing
for JB7),
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A huge thankyou to everyone who came down to Bournemouth and made the 
tournament such a huge success. I've had some great feedback about both the 
grass pitches and the beach, and I don't think anyone could have asked for 
better weather. The standard of ultimate was excellent and the improvment of 
all the beginners that came was obvious.

Congratulations to Ultimate Talent and North South Divide - an excellent 
beach final, with Ultimate Talent winning the tournament overall after a 
better Saturday performance, even though North South Divide earned extra 
points with a well respected 25 seconds on the 3 pint challenge.

Next year, if I choose the dates a bit better I think we can expect a bigger 
and better tournament. For now, there are another 60 players totally hooked 
on beach ultimate.

Will
DHB/Druids


Saturday (Grass)
A six team round robin with the following results.
1) Ultimate Talent (12pts) (aka Skunks)
2) Bruvva (10 pts)      (Antipodean influenced london beginners team)
3) Senile Bovines (8 pts)     (with a core of Mad Kows)
4) North South Divide (6pts)   (London's Playthings/Angels combination)
5) Surrey Slingers (4pts)  (Surrey Uni's first ever outdoor tournament)
6) Double Hard Bournemouth (2pts)  (Bournemouth's brand new team)

Saturday night
Three pint challenge mania
1) NorthSouthDivide (6 pts)
2) Bruvva (5pts)
3) Ultimate Talent (4 pts)
4) DHB (3pts)
5) Surrey Slingers (2 pts)
6) Senile Bovines (1pt)

Sunday (Beach)
A laid back two pools of three with a final
1) North South Divide (12 pts)
2) Ultimate Talent (10 pts)
3) Bruvva (5pts)
3) Senile Bovines (5pts)
3) Surrey Slingers (5pts)
3) DHB (5 pts)

Overall:
1) Ultimate Talent (26pts) (tacky beach memorabilia winners)
2) North South Divide (24 pts)
3) Bruvva (20 pts)
4) Senile Bovines (14 pts)
5) Surrey (11 pts)
6) DHB (10 pts)

Spirit: Senile Bovines


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hey Britdisc,

I know that arun posted details of the mixed tour II to
britdisc shortly after nottingham, but I no longer have
them.  I've tried Arun and got no reply as yet and the
ukultimate.com site doesn't have the information.  Could
anyone repost the details for this event?  I only want to
know where to send the check and how much it should be made
out for.

cheers
Ben


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I've got the info for the mixed tour II - thanks to those
who send me the details.

ben

On Tue, 14 May 2002, Ben Booth wrote:

> hey Britdisc,
> 
> I know that arun posted details of the mixed tour II to
> britdisc shortly after nottingham, but I no longer have
> them.  I've tried Arun and got no reply as yet and the
> ukultimate.com site doesn't have the information.  Could
> anyone repost the details for this event?  I only want to
> know where to send the check and how much it should be made
> out for.
> 
> cheers
> Ben
> 
> 
> _____________________________________
> Climate and Oceanography Group,
> Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics,
> Clarendon Laboratory,
> Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PU
> booth@atm.ox.ac.uk
> +44 1865 272933
> 

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Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics,
Clarendon Laboratory,
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Strange Blue have had to pull out of Tour 2 this weekend. We had two teams
on the waiting list - Princess Layout and Mwnci Mohawk Magic (neither
managed to get a cheque to us on time) but both now consider it too late
notice to get a team together.

So, do we have any team that wants to jump in at the last moment, or
alternatively, anyone have a nice schedule for 39 teams :-) ? I know St.
Peters did originally want to field two teams but they are down to a squad
of 14, and a couple of them were thinking about joining Millfield juniors
who are down to 8 players.

Any ideas?

Kevin.
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14 May 2002

UK's First Public Disc Golf Course To Open In Ealing

Members of the Bongos Disc Sports Club of West London are celebrating today 
after receiving a grant of £5000 from the National Lottery's Awards for All 
programme.

The grant will allow the installation of a public disc golf course in the 
London borough of Ealing. It will benefit locals and visitors alike. One of 
the advantages of disc golf is its relative simplicity and its appeal to 
both sexes, all ages and to players of all abilities.

Club spokesperson Mr Richard Sampson said "We're thrilled to receive this 
award today, the UK's first public disc golf course is a significant 
milestone. We're confident that when people see what this sport is all 
about, courses will be springing up all over the country."

For further information please contact Richard Sampson,
20a Wordsworth Avenue, Greenford. UB6 9AB.
tel/fax: 020 8575 1564, mobile: 07989 406 256. richard@discgolf.co.uk


For an Awards for All application pack please call 0845 600 20 40 or visit 
www.awardsforall.org.uk


Disc Golf…
Disc golf shares the joys and frustrations of traditional golf. Instead of 
using clubs to putt balls into holes, you throw specially designed flying 
discs, similar to Frisbees® from a tee area to a 'hole'. The hole in the 
case of disc golf is an elevated metal basket.. The objective is to take as 
few shots as possible over a course of 9, 12 or 18 different targets.

… the best sport you've never heard of - TNT Magazine
… a sport that skims past bunkers - The Times
… the next sporting craze - Cilla Black
… a sport that's booming - Timeout
… golf with no balls - The Sun (Scotland)


Useful Internet Sites

discgolf.co.uk - UK Disc Golf Portal

obmegazine.com - Journal of Disc Golf news with a European bias

discgolfphotos.com - The UK's largest archive of disc golf photos

bdga.org.uk  - British Disc Golf Association

pdga.com - World-wide governing body



Disc Golf Demographics - 1998 Professional Disc Golf Association (PDGA) 
Member Survey
www.pdga.com/demographics.phtml




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From: "UK Ultimate Administrator" <admin@ukultimate.com>
To: "Britdisc" <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Personal Accident Insurance for paid-up Members of UKU
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:07:00 +0100
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Stig & others

In response to your question about UKU insurance:

I have recently received the following information regarding UK Ultimate
PERSONAL ACCIDENT INSURANCE: 
£5,000 Death cover, £50,000 Loss of limb(s)/eye(s)/hearing/speech or
Permanent Total Disablement cover. Accidental loss of or damage to teeth
is also included up to £500 cover max. With an excess of £25. Permanent
Total Disablement benefit is payable if the injured person is unable to
carry out any gainful employment for which fitted by education, training
or knowledge.

This insurance covers UKU Members worldwide i.e. at International
tournaments (e.g. Hawaii), but NOT their travel internationally. The
insurance DOES include the above cover whilst traveling to and from
ultimate frisbee training & events in the UK. This insurance scheme will
not affect any other Personal Accident policies held by an insured
member. 

Please note this insurance covers Full & Student UKU Members only. This
cover does not apply to those in their 'free year of eligibility' (E
status) or those who have 'just registered' (R status) i.e. it's for
paid-up UKU members. The insurance is also only available to UK
Residents.

In the unfortunate & hopefully unlikely event that anyone has a serious
accident & needs to make a claim, please contact the UKU administrator. 
Email: admin@ukultimate.com
 
I am currently investigating ways to best document serious frisbee
accidents & would suggest in the first instance accidents should be
reported to Tournament Directors, with details of witnesses also being
gathered. If a serious accident should occur whilst traveling to /from
an event, then the police should be contacted & a police incident no.
should be noted.

If any of you have examples of well designed accident forms, by all
means send me a copy, as this may assist us devise our own.

Yours (for 7 hours a week)

NJ
UK Ultimate Admin






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From: "Tarek Khouri" <tarek.khouri@freesurf.ch>
To: "Swiss Frisbee Mailinglist" <swissdisc@ultimate.ch>, <teams@ultimate.ch>,
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Subject: why wouldn't you spend a nice w-e in geneva
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:40:42 +0200
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olé,

there is a free spot for the talampaya coed challenge this w-e in geneva.

this is an invitation for a pick-up team, there are already players
interested but

we need women for this team !

3 days of nice ultispirit, high games and nice parties, the famous 'boat
circus show', magic mood.

check out www.wizards.ch and let me know, or just come along,

cheers
tarek-wizards

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Subject: Re: Details wanted for Mixed Tour II
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It seems that I was not the only person who wanted these 
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From: "Adriano Vitali" <avitali@ptc.com>
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Subject: Masters
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:48:37 +0100
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Wayne, you forgot to mention that Headrush are European Masters Champions by
default!
BTW, where are those shirts you promised us?

VITO

Adriano Vitali
PTC Technical Support
http://www.ptc.com

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Flat in london available for 3 months  June 8/9 to Sept 20th

90/week  High street ken


Rebecca Forth
Physiologist
ESTEC
European Space Agency
Keplerlaan 1
Noordwijk, NL-2200 AG
The Netherlands

Tel: +31 71 565 5959
Fax: +31 71 565 3661
Email: Rebecca.Forth@esa.int


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Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:50:05 +0100
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From: Bongos Disc Sports Club <richard@discology.co.uk>
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Hi Britdisc,

On June 8/9 the Bongos Disc Sports Club are staging their 2nd disc sports 
weekend of 2002.

The venue again is the Green Park Centre in Aston Clinton, near Aylesbury.

We will be setting up a Disc Golf course (baskets) + Double Disc Court 
(DDC) pitches + Goaltimate pitch + Ultimate pitch

The main event is the British Disc Golf Association's Tour event (Green 
Park Open) taking place across Saturday and Sunday.

Once again there is the option to come along and play disc on one day only.
The 'Day Pass' allows players to play all three disc sports and choose 
which day to play.

Anyone and everyone welcome.

There's much more info on the website:
www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen

Have a good weekend.

Richard
Bongos DSC
07989 406256
020 8575 1564



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   "Jim Unwin (E-mail)" <jimunwin@rso-ltd.com>
Subject: Tour 3 Banbury INVITATION
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 17:06:34 +0100
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TOUR 3 
Banbury
22/23 June 2002 

Jim and Paul "Stig" Unwin will host Tour 3 at Banbury School, Banbury, Oxon
on the weekend of the 22/23rd June. The deadline for all entrants is Friday
7th June. (you have 3 weeks)

Last year we held Tour 2 at a different venue: Bodicote park, unfortunately,
the rugby club didnt pay their Business rates so they have been taken to the
cleaners by the local council. Place is not available for hire this year. So
we are using an alternative site very close by, just 2 miles closer to
Banbury town centre.

Highlights of this years tournament:

> A team of masseurs, aromatherapist, physiotherapist.

> free apples, oranges, bananas, and water melons.

> Games on Pitch 1 filmed by Block Stack, who will have 3 cameras on hand.

> 2 Bars on site. Magistrates should grant extension as result of World Cup
match on Saturday night 

> On site camping.

> Ice Cream van.

> World Cup Quarter Final (Could feature England) televised in Clubhouse.

> Jim is still working on the Cheerleaders, Hot-tubs, Limos and video
replays for Wayne.

NUMBER OF TEAMS: We hope to accommodate however many teams want to play.
Obvious preference for divisibility by 4. We have 16 pitches.

ENTRY FEE 
Seeds 1-8 £145
Seeds 9-16 £135
Seeds 17+ and Womens teams £125 

Send cheque payable to Paul Unwin to:
UKU Tour 3, 44 Swinegate, Grantham, Lincs, NG31 6RL

with the following details:
YOUR NAME:
TEAM NAME:
ADDRESS:
TEL NO:
MOBILE NO:
E-MAIL ADDRESS:

I shall not accept cheques given to me in person.

Lowlights

CAR PARKING - Ample car parking available, central to all fields. 

CAMPING - On site camping available behind sports hall at end of site.
Changing rooms, 24hr toilet facilities @ sportshall. All available Friday
night.

CHANGING/SHOWERS - 4 separate changing and showering areas.  I aint gonna
make any promises about the showers. Cold showers are good for you, they
help your body recuperate from the rigors of playing ultimate. Dont blame
the shower temperature for size of your weeners. 

FOOD - Good quality food supplied in refectory/buttery. Drinks, fruit and
donuts available on fields. 

DIRECTIONS TO BANBURY SCHOOL: 
M40 to Banbury. Head for Banbury Town Centre, Follow signs for Horton
General Hospital. When directly outside the hospital turn up Horton View. Go
straight over Springfield Avenue into Ruskin Road and Banbury School.

Use this link to get you to the school:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=OX169HY
arrow points at the fields

Use this link when you arrive:
http://www.banbury.oxon.sch.uk/Contacts/Sitemap.html

Camping is at far end of the site. (extreme left of site map) fields are
behind Wykham, Broughton and Stanbridge. 

ACCOMMODATION: 
If you cant face camping
here is a list of BnBs/hotels close by:

Amberley Guest House 151 Middleton Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 255797
Ashley Guest House 58 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250539
Avonlea Guest House 41 Southam Road Banbury		Tel 01295 267837
Banbury Cross Bed and Breakfast 1 Brougton Rd Banbury	Tel 01295 266048
Belmont Guest House 34 Crouch Street Banbury 		Tel 01295 262308
Calthorpe Lodge Guest House 4 Calthorpe St Banbury 	Tel 01295 252325
Cotefield B & B 1 Cotefield Cottages Bodicote Banbury	Tel 01295 264977
Fairlawns Guest House 60 Oxford Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262461
Fair View Lodge Guest Hse 1 Fairview Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262181
Fernliegh Guest House 67 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250853
Prospect Guest House 70 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 268749
The Roebuck Inn Stratford Road  Drayton Banbury		Tel 01295 730542
Treetops Guest House 28 Dashwood Road Banbury 		Tel 01295 254444
Virginia House B&B 1 High Street Bloxham Banbury	Tel 01295 720596
Winstons Guest House 65 Oxford Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 270790


Hotels and Inns

The Cartwright arms Croughton Road Aynho Banbury	Tel 01869 811111
Cromwell Lodge Hotel 9-11 North Bar Banbury		Tel 01295 259781
Easington House Hotel 50 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 270181
The Deddington Arms HorsefAIr Deddington			Tel 01869
338364
Holcombe Hotel High Street Deddington			Tel 01869 338274
Horse and Groom Milcombe Banbury			Tel 01295 720471
Lismore Hotel 61 Oxford Road Banbury			Tel 01295 267661
The Marlborough Arms 1a Gatteridge St Banbury 		Tel 01295 258258
The Lampet Arms Main St Tadmarton Banbury		Tel 01295 780070
The Red Lion at Adderbury, Adderbury Banbury	Tel 01295 810269
The Swan Inn  3 South Bar Banbury				Tel 01295
262900


If you need either of us we can be contacted via:

E-mail address: punwin@grantham.ac.uk (for all queries)
phone: 01476 577993 (Stigs home phone)
mobile: 07790 187203 (nj's mobile phone.) 

See you all at Tour 2.

Stig

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From: Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Tour 2 - late cancellation
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Ouch!

No clever ideas from me, I'm afraid.

I'm curious though... why are Strange Blue dropping out?

I note (having checked out the Tour Rules) that their withdrawal from
Tour 2 could have serious repercussions on their attendance at the rest
of the Tour.

Depending on whether their reasons are considered valid enough to not
Blacklist them, and how many teams can be accommodated by T3 and T4.

Which leads me further... is there a u8c yet?
If so, is there any chance of a public announcement of who they are?

Regards
Wayne

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mobile: 07970-903420
w.retter@bigfoot.com
office: 01737-273655

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> Hi Wayne,
>
> As the person who organised Strange Blue's tour effort last year I believe
> I can shed some light on the situation.
>
> As a geo-based team are heavily reliant on student players who
> all have exams in two weeks, and coupled with injuries we find it hard to
> put out a full team.
> We played the same event last year with only 7 players on the first day
> -for similar reasons - which lead to further injuries and alot of
> discussion in our club about what to do if faced with the same situation
> this year.
> I believe that those in charge of the SB team this year have done their
> very best to get a team together but are faced with a near-impossible situation.
> AFTER DISCUSSION with the Tour organisers they have agreed to our withdrawl.
> We are already being penalised insofar as we will lose our hard-won
> seeding (15) and as a consequence most likely unable to qualify for
> Nationals.  We apologise for the inconvenience to the TD and other
> participants if our absence leads to an odd number of teams.
> I myself organised the Coed Tournament this time last year in Cambridge -
> which turned out to be for 13 teams - but was a success nevertheless.
> I sincerely hope we will be permitted to attend tour 3 and
> 4 as these are the only serious tournaments many of our up-coming players
> have the opportunity to attend.
>
> Thankyou for your support and understanding,
>
> Rob Hadfield
>
> Former President, SB (still injured!)
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 00:19:32 +0100
> From: Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk>
> Reply-To: Wayne Retter <wayne@fluiddruids.com>
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Tour 2 - late cancellation
>
>
> Ouch!
>
> No clever ideas from me, I'm afraid.
>
> I'm curious though... why are Strange Blue dropping out?
>
> I note (having checked out the Tour Rules) that their withdrawal from
> Tour 2 could have serious repercussions on their attendance at the rest
> of the Tour.
>
> Depending on whether their reasons are considered valid enough to not
> Blacklist them, and how many teams can be accommodated by T3 and T4.
>
> Which leads me further... is there a u8c yet?
> If so, is there any chance of a public announcement of who they are?
>
> Regards
> Wayne
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Wayne Retter
> mobile: 07970-903420
> w.retter@bigfoot.com
> office: 01737-273655
>
>

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UK ULTIMATE DISC EVENTS DIARY 


See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates.

Contact UK Ultimate at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk

Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/

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18 MAY 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR II

Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]



Tour Two in Exeter being held at the University's Duckes Meadow Pitches
CAMPING/B&B - As usual at Exeter tournaments, free camping is available courtesy of Double Locks Inn with 24hr toilet facilities open to all. Changing rooms with hot showers are available back at the pitches which are less than 10 minutes walk away (or a 10 minute drive?). As usual, you are reminded that Double Locks make their profit from selling beer and food, so please don't get caught consuming your own on their land. There is space for about 200 camping if we are considerate about pitching tents. Camping is available anytime but please don't leave anything of any value in your tents during the day. We haven't known any thefts from tents before, but there have been a number of break-ins to cars so please don't offer any obvious targets.
GRUB - We should have Exeter Woodcraft providing hot and cold food through the tournament along with the burger van that was there for the Hat tournament last year. Double Locks sell superb food, and there are numerous restaurants in town.
Captain's meeting will be at 8:45, with first games starting at 9:00.




http://tour2exeter.topcities.com 


Kev Lowe

Main Email: Kev@cheerful.com

Mobile:  078121 05014

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01 JUNE 2002 (3 DAYS) - BRITOPEN02

Location: Eastbourne Sports Park - [Outdoor Ultimate]


The British Open makes it's long awaited return at a great new venue, with new surprises in store as ever. More details soon.





http://www.britopen.co.uk


Nolan

BritOpen Admin Office, 3 Wish Road, Eastbourne, East Sussex, BN21 4NX

Main Email: admin@britopen.co.uk

Work Phone: 01323 430726

Mobile: 07740084207

Fax: 01323 430223

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08 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - MIXED TOUR II

Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate]


MIXED TOUR II - 8TH/9TH JUNE - BOSTON SPA SCHOOL
ENTRY FEE - £100 - MAKE CHEQUE PAYABLE TO - LEEDS ULTIMATE  

SEND TO:  LEEDS ULTIMATE
          42 RICHMOND MOUNT
          HEADINGLEY
          LEEDS
          LS6 1DF

ACCOMMODATION IS AVAILABLE BUT ONLY UPON RECEIPT OF PAYMENT.
IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE THIS WILL BE SAMI NIELSON'S FINAL FAREWELL TO BRITISH ULTIMATE.






http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tourny_home.cgi?dir=hk7's


ARUN SHARMA

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712583578

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15 JUNE 2002 (1 DAYS) - "COME AND TRY" FOR CHARITY

Location: Mary Erskine School, Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate]



Charity Event for beginners.  

The day will involve a demonstration game, skills clinic and a short
beginners competition.  We will also have a party or Ceilidh afterwards.

Where: Mary Erskine School
When: June 15th starting at 2pm

All proceeds will go to charity.


http://www.edinburghultimate.org.uk


Barry O'Kane

Main Email: eua@edinburghultimate.org.uk

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15 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - DURHAM HAT

Location: Durham - [Outdoor Ultimate]


A relaxed summer hat tournament with loads of spirit, at a price even students can afford! Includes the return of the Northern Ultimate Kabbadi Championships.


http://www.dufdisc.co.uk


Zoe Endacott

2 Mitchell Street, Durham City, , , 

Main Email: tournament@dufdisc.co.uk

Alternative Email: president@dufdisc.co.uk

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22 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR III

Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Jim and Paul "Stig" Unwin will host Tour 3 at Banbury School, Banbury, Oxon The deadline for all entrants is Friday 7th June. (you have 3 weeks)
NUMBER OF TEAMS: We hope to accommodate however many teams want to play. Obvious preference for divisibility by 4. We have 16 pitches.
ENTRY FEE 
Seeds 1-8 £145
Seeds 9-16 £135
Seeds 17+ and Womens teams £125
Send cheque payable to Paul Unwin to:
UKU Tour 3, 44 Swinegate, Grantham, Lincs, NG31 6RL
with the following details:
YOUR NAME:  
TEAM NAME:
ADDRESS:
TEL NO:
MOBILE NO:
E-MAIL ADDRESS:


http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=OX169HY


Paul

44 Swinegate, Grantham, Lincs, , NG31 6RL

Main Email: punwin@grantham.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01476 577993

Work Phone: you're joking!

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29 JUNE 2002 (2 DAYS) - THE EXETER HAT

Location: Duckes Meadow, Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Uriel proudly presents the annual Exeter Hat tournament.
Guaranteed sun + guaranteed ultimate + guaranteed party = guaranteed fun!

Same venue as Tour II.
Free camping at the Double Locks.
The entry fee is a bargain £5 per person.
Sign up at Tour II or just turn up and pay.
E-mail with enquiries.



Robin Karfoot

84 Blackboy Road, Exeter, , , EX4 6SU

Main Email: palmerstonpark@hotmail.com

Alternative Email: r.karfoot@ex.ac.uk

Home Phone: 01392 436798

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06 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 33 1/3

Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


As the gods would have it the tour was not to be at southampton this year. A year can not go by without playing on southampton's flat, green, lush fields, and so Skunks are proud to present Tour 33 1/3 - The Unofficial Tour. It will be a fun event where you dont need to roster or stress. Cheap ( hopefully ), good fun, great pitches, what more do you need?


Andrew 'Trig' Feltham

338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, Hants, SO16 3BJ

Main Email: af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Alternative Email: felthama@uk.ibm.com

Home Phone: 02380 678866

Work Phone: 01962 815169

Mobile: 07786 384009

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13 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) -  MIXED TOUR III

Location: Titchfield, nr Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate]


This will be the same excellent venue as Co-ed Nationals last year. All being well, we will also have the accommodation deal with the Holiday Inn again.



Simon Weeks

Main Email: siweeks@bigfoot.com

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20 JULY 2002 (2 DAYS) - OPEN TOUR IV

Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TOUR IV

SPACE FOR WOMENS DIVISION AS LAST YEAR



ARUN SHARMA

42 RICHMOND MOUNT, HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, LS6 1DF, 

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712 583578

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03 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - NOT THE WORLDS

Location: Abbey RFC, Reading - [Outdoor Ultimate]


A weekend of fun for those of us not heading to the Worlds, food and drink available on site, good pitches and plenty of spirit for all.


Andy Cox

1 Emery Down, Upper Basildon, Reading, Berks, RG8 8PA

Main Email: andycox23@hotmail.com

Home Phone: 01491 671806

Mobile: 07876 494 173

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04 AUGUST 2002 (7 DAYS) - WORLD CLUBS 2002 (OVERSEAS)

Location: Hawaii, USA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


See Ultilinks

Main Email: See Ultilinks

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10 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - BRUMMI 50

Location: Birmingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Aston University sports and leisure club
Just off Junction 7 of the M6 .
Food all day,bar all day.BBq in the evening with  party.
6 pitches ,24 teams 

Phil Cooper

199 Blackberry Lane, Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands, , B74 4JJ

Main Email: phil_cooper@btinternet.com

Home Phone: 0121 353 6399

Work Phone: 07831 401983

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18 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - | RUMOUR 2002 |

Location:  - [Outdoor Ultimate]


It's back!, it's bubblewrapped


http://www.ummedia.com/rumour


Jon Copeland

47 Radley Rd, abingdon, Oxon, , 

Main Email: jon.copeland@bookham.com

Alternative Email: adam@ummedia.com

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24 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - CO-ED NATIONALS

Location: Nottingham - [Outdoor Ultimate]





Sam

Main Email: TBA

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31 AUGUST 2002 (2 DAYS) - UK ULTIMATE OUTDOOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: King Edwards Place, Swindon - [Outdoor Ultimate]


hosted by Layout Dreams.

More details later.

Wayne Retter

8 Avon House, Rutland Close, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 1EH

Main Email: layoutdreams@yahoogroups.com

Home Phone: 01737-218489

Mobile: 07970-903420

____________________________________________________________


07 SEPTEMBER 2002 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY

Location: Glastonbury - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Glastonbury- as last year!!!


Arun Sharma

Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk

Mobile: 07712 583578

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26 OCTOBER 2002 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS

Location: Sheffield, Concord Sports Cente  - [Indoor Ultimate]


16 Bginners Teams
8 Experienced Tems (tbc)


Pete Elliott

19A Bower Road, Sheffield, , , S10 1ER

Main Email: Ultimate@sheffield.ac.uk

Alternative Email: threefingerjoe@hotmail.com

Mobile: 07799620243

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22 FEBRUARY 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED INDOOR FINALS

Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

Main Email: TBA

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08 MARCH 2003 (2 DAYS) - OPEN INDOOR QUALIFIERS

Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate]


TBA


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22 MARCH 2003 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS' INDOOR FINALS

Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate]


TBA


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05 APRIL 2003 (2 DAYS) - OPEN INDOOR FINALS

Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate]


TBA


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Main Email: TBA

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19 APRIL 2003 (2 DAYS) - RIMINI (OVERSEAS) WORLD BEACH CHAMPIONSHIPS

Location: Rimini, Italy - [Outdoor Ultimate, Freestyle]


It's big & beachy. 



TBA

TBA, , , , 

Main Email: TBA

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26 APRIL 2003 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 1

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


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03 MAY 2003 (2 DAYS) - BRUGES (OVERSEAS)/ STUDENTS

Location: Bruges - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Student Event

TBA


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10 MAY 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED EVENT I

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


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24 MAY 2003 (2 DAYS) - TOUR II

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


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31 MAY 2003 (2 DAYS) - ROTTERDAM (OVERSEAS)

Location: Rotterdam - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


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07 JUNE 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED EVENT II

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


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21 JUNE 2003 (2 DAYS) - TOUR III

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


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05 JULY 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED EVENT III

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

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Main Email: TBA

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19 JULY 2003 (2 DAYS) - TOUR IV

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


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02 AUGUST 2003 (3 DAYS) - WINDOW FOR WORLDS/EUROPEANS

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


Dates/events not yet known


TBA

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23 AUGUST 2003 (2 DAYS) - MIXED NATIONALS

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


TBA


TBA

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06 SEPTEMBER 2003 (2 DAYS) - OPEN NATIONALS

Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate]


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Only 5 places left for tour 2=20
The following teams are definatley in so everyone else should hurry.
Cryille
Excess Bee
Easy Tiger
BAF
Chevron
Maiden Bungle
Red
Aurora
Venom
Ginger dave and his dirty leeds army
Ben Hoooooves mystery mixed combo.

All teams please note for Sami Neilsons send off party at the Courtyard, =
Leeds there is a dress code so no trainers or denim.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Only 5 places left for tour 2 =
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else should hurry.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cryille</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excess Bee</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Easy Tiger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BAF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chevron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maiden Bungle</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aurora</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Venom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ginger dave and his dirty leeds =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ben Hoooooves mystery mixed =
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Hey Gary or any other we've got guns folks.
With regards to the shirts I returned mine but Tyrant being tall and dumb 
forgot his. Now the possibilities for getting it to you are virtually 
endless:- I could post it to one of you in sunny leeds,pop it to tour 2 if 
any of you are going,get my mum to give it to Gary's mum(bad wording there) 
or get my flying monkeys to bring it to you....fly my beauties.Let us know 
whats best/easiest bearing in mind that I don't actually have any flying 
monkeys.........yet.
                           Cheers all
                               Nev

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In addition to the list below i have now recieved cheques from Superfly
Grazed 'n' confused
Hull Inbreds
Salt'n'sauce
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Subject: mixed tour 2


Only 5 places left for tour 2=20
The following teams are definatley in so everyone else should hurry.
Cryille
Excess Bee
Easy Tiger
BAF
Chevron
Maiden Bungle
Red
Aurora
Venom
Ginger dave and his dirty leeds army
Ben Hoooooves mystery mixed combo.

All teams please note for Sami Neilsons send off party at the Courtyard, =
Leeds there is a dress code so no trainers or denim.

Rik

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hull Inbreds</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Only 5 places left for tour 2 =
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else should hurry.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cryille</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excess Bee</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Easy Tiger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BAF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chevron</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maiden Bungle</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aurora</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Venom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ginger dave and his dirty leeds =
army</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ben Hoooooves mystery mixed =
combo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All teams please note for Sami Neilsons =
send off=20
party at the Courtyard, Leeds there is a dress code so no trainers or=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aurora</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Red</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maiden Bungle</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chevron</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Easy Tiger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Excess Bee</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ben hoooves mixed trinity</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to the 3 on the waiting =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Shocker</FONT></DIV>
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Just another quick reminder for this tournament - 10th/11th August in
Birmingham.  Please go to : http://fluidltd.co.uk/brummiefive-0/  for further
details.

Our imposed deadline for entrants is the 31st of May (after this we have to pay
a deposit), which is coming up soon!  We still need a few more teams to make it
worthwhile, so if you're interested or need further information then go to the
web-site or e-mail me at this address.

We are trying to hold off paying the deposit for a while to give teams more of a
chance to get their money in, but at the moment we need to pay that by early
June.

So, appologies for asking you to pay £85 3 months in advance but we couldn't
take the risk and pay the deposit without knowing the demand for the tournament.

Please send cheques to:

Simon Statham
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Short report will follow later.

1  Clapham 1    (Championship)
2  Chevron Action Flash
3  TeamShark
4  Fluid Druids
5  Clapham 2    (Plate)
6  Un Poco Loca
7  Leeds Leeds Leeds
8  Smash & Grab
9  Blue Arse Flies 1
10 Fusion
11 Whey
12 Red 1
13 STD (Cup)
14 Headrush
15 Marty McFly
16 Hammerage 1
17 Atomic Horse
18 Hammerage 2
19 Mud Culture
20 Flyght Club
21 Kamaya Maya (Bowl)
22 Revolution
23 Slipdisc 1
24 Blue Arse Flies 2
25 Bad Habits
26 Swivel
27 Skunks
28 -
29 North South Divide (Crystal)
30 Trigger Happy
31 Albatross
32 Chuft
33 Butt
34 Uriel
35 Red 2
36 JB7
37 SlipDisc 2 (Spoon)
38 Rats of Nimh
39 Air Badgers
40 Discoordinated

Spirit of the game was awarded to STD (although JB7 tied on points with
them, the crowd got the casting vote and went for STD on the condition they
sang their song again).

Kev & Rob.

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Here are the provisional positions for the Co-Ed Tour after the first event 
at Nottingham.

They are 'provisional' because, apart from BAF who sent me direct, I haven't 
received the rosters from the TD.  This means there may be adjustments for 
the new player bonus.  I'll confirm the positions as soon as I get the 
rosters which I am sure will be any day now ;-)

In future I'll post provisional positions right after the event and then 
post confirmed positions when I've got the rosters.


A couple of points:

*** I got a handful of emails on the subject of rosters.  A couple of people 
think they are unecessary, and a couple of people think they should be 
stricter.

Seems to me that the best approach for this season is to keep it the way it 
is.

- The rosters are useful for ensuring that teams at nationals only field 
players who have played for them at some point on the tour.
- They are also useful for ensuring integrity within any given event (if a 
team/indiv knows that their name is on a roster, then they know that there 
is no 'grey area' in which to try and site themselves in order to end up 
playing for more than one team)
- They are also essential for the new player bonus.
- We might as well be used to them cos they are likely to be stricter next 
year as per the Open Tour.

- Getting stricter would be a bit unfair this late in the day, as I 
suggested on BD at the beginning of the Co-Ed Tour.


*** A couple of people have suggested that the new player bonus is an idea 
that is a bit out of date, as the Co-Ed Tour is not really a soft Tour.

Maybe that is true, and there is an argument, in a competitive Tour, for not 
rewarding teams because they field weaker players.

But I don't think we are quite there yet this year, especially with no 
international careers at stake.

The new player bonus only really affects teams lower down the order.  It 
gives them a little reward for bringing people in, and it may sort out some 
of the lower Tour positions.

I think it is best to keep it as it is for this season.


Obviously comments are welcome.  Here are the scores so far...

Si Barry
Co-Ed Tour Coordinator


	Provisional Positions After Co-Ed Tour 1

Tour
Position	Team			Points

1st	  Grazed & Confused 		60
2nd	  Easy Tiger			50
3rd	  Cyrille			42
4th  	  Excess Bee			35
5th	  Li'l Shef			29
6th  	  Blue Arse Flies		24
7th	  Chevron Action Flash  	20
8th	  Maiden Bungle			17
9th	  Shocker!  			15
10th	  Inbreds			14
11th	  Yorkie Bar Kids		10
12th	  Zoo				10
13th	  SuperFly			10
14th	  Salt n Sauce			10
15th	  Flyght Club			10
16th	  We've Got Guns 		10
17th	  Red  				10
18th	  Martha and the Mootones	10
19th	  SkuMy				10
20th	  Discophilia			10









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Apologies to JB7 for filching what was so very nearly their spirit prize. We 
played them at tour 1 and they were fantastic guys, far more deserving than 
a bunch of numptys who just happen to sing in harmonious ensemble.

But we're not giving you the trophy.....

Thanks to everyone involved for a great tournament, to Headrush for letting 
us beat them, and to everyone who had to listen to us for resisting the urge 
to form a lynch mob.

Benji "Halfway home after two trains, a bus, three taxis and a night in a 
B&B" Heywood

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Dear all,

Unfortunately I either lost or had stolen my wallet (Red and Yellow tatty 
thing) at Exeter this weekend. It definitely went missing on the pitches 
somewhere so I'm hoping that someone has picked it up.
The real bugger is that it contained rather a lot of money and cheques that 
the kids in my team had raised as sponsorship to give to our school charity.
Please, if you have it or have had a good night out with their money, can 
you show some spirit, do the right thing and return the cash/cheques to our 
school.

We all really enjoyed the tournament, but this has cast a little shadow over 
things.

Thanks for your time,

Paul Ruff (AirBadgers)
St. Peter's High School,
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Exeter,
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I took some pictures at the weekend.  Teams featured are: Sharks vs Druids, 
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>Thanks to everyone that got in touch with me about Brass Eye (even the one person who told me "you shouldn't condone stuff like that " ).&nbsp; Now that I know that it's commercially available on VHS and DVD, I won't trouble you with chasing up your efforts of getting a copy to me, but I appreciate your offers.</DIV>
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<DIV>Just a quick word about about the Yes but Nau in Nantes which was excellent, like what Rimini was before it got too popular (apparently).&nbsp; Janitors and Flyght Club (well, Sam Rey and a sprinkling of Mental Disc players) joined 17 teams from around Europe to play&nbsp;top quality Ultimate and generally lark about in the sand.&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>One small problem: no Strange Blue.&nbsp; To pull out of one tournament at short notice is unfortunate, but to pull out of 2 on the same weekend....?</DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif" color=#cc0099 size=4><EM>Wayne</EM></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif" size=2><EM>email to <A href="mailto:wayne@team42.de">wayne@team42.de</A> </EM></FONT></P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:54:33 +0100 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;hey wayne, 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;nice to hear you're well, and preaching the gospel according to Chris Morris. The Paedo-geddon episode of Brass Eye isn't the best but it's well worth catching. You'll be overjoyed to hear that the whole series, including the special, has been released this week to buy on vhs and dvd. I'm sure you could order it from amazon. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; Hi from Germany 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; there's not much about Britain I miss (all your smiling happy faces top of the list, natch) but quality TV in a language I understand is one of them. I just found out that Channel 4 is broadcasting THAT Brass Eye episode tonight (10.30 apparently). Now I've never seen it, and it crossed my mind that someone might want to do a desperate exile a little favour and get it on video for me. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; I've thought this through very carefully: I'll be heading to Nantes this weekend, and could arrange an exchange on the beach. So, if you're going there (Janitors, FlyghtClub, Strange Blue I'm thinking you) and you fancy a beer and a blank video in exchange (the very least I could do!) then please make an old man very happy. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; If you manage to tape it, please let me know tomorrow, and we can sort something out. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; Apologies for nonUltimateness of message. Enjoy the sun! 
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ROM: DR. Ibrahim Yusuf.
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VERY CONFIDENTIAL
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I AM THE MANAGER OF BILLS AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC.   I AM WRITING THIS LETTER TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND CO-OPERATION TO CARRY OUT THIS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY IN MY DEPARTMENT.

WE DISCOVERED AN UNCLAIMED SUM OF US$15.2M (FIFTEEN  MILLION, TWO HUNDRED THOUSND UNITED STATE DOLLARS ONLLY) IN AN ACCOUNT THAT BELONGS TO ONE OF OUR FOREIGN CUSTOMERS WHO DIED ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY IN NOVEMBER 1999, IN A PLAIN CRASH.

SINCE WE GOT THE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS DEATH, WE HAVE BEEN EXPECTING HIS NEXT OF KIN TO COME FORWARD TO CLAIM HIS MONEY BECAUSE WE CANNOT RELEASE THE MONEY UNLESS SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR IT AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OR RELATION TO THE DECEASED AS INDICATED IN OUR BANKING
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UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER THE FAMILY NOR RELATIONS HAS SHOWN UP TO CLAIM THIS MONEY AT THIS DISCOVERY, I AND OTHER OFFICIALS IN THE DEPARTMENT NOW DECIDED TO TRANSACT THIS BUSINESS WITH YOU AND TRANSFER THE FUND INTO YOUR ACCOUNT AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OR RELATION OF
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THE BANKING LAW AND GUIDE LINE OF THE UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC STIPULATES THAT IF SUCH MONEY REMAIN UNCLAIMED FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS, IT WILL BE TRANSFERRED INTO THE BANKS TREASURE AS AN UNCLIAMED FUND. THE NEED FOR A FORIEGNER AS NEXT-OF-KIN  IN THIS BUSINESS IS LOCATIONED BY THE FACT THAT THE CUSTOMER WAS A FORIEGNER AND A NIGEIAN CANNOT STAND AS
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ROM: DR. Ibrahim Yusuf.
TEL:234-80-33235311
E-MAIL:ibrahim_ubn@yahoo.com    
               
VERY CONFIDENTIAL
ATTN;SIR,

I AM THE MANAGER OF BILLS AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT
OF UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC.   I AM WRITING THIS LETTER TO ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT AND CO-OPERATION TO CARRY OUT THIS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY IN MY
DEPARTMENT.

WE DISCOVERED AN UNCLAIMED SUM OF US$15.2M (FIFTEEN  MILLION, TWO HUNDRED
THOUSND UNITED STATE DOLLARS ONLLY) IN AN ACCOUNT THAT BELONGS TO ONE OF OUR
FOREIGN CUSTOMERS WHO DIED ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY IN NOVEMBER 1999, IN
A PLAIN CRASH.

SINCE WE GOT THE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS DEATH, WE HAVE BEEN EXPECTING HIS
NEXT OF KIN TO COME FORWARD TO CLAIM HIS MONEY BECAUSE WE CANNOT RELEASE THE
MONEY UNLESS SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR IT AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OR RELATION TO THE
DECEASED AS INDICATED IN OUR BANKING
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UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER THE FAMILY NOR RELATIONS HAS SHOWN UP TO CLAIM THIS
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BANKS TREASURY AS AN UNCLAIMED DEBT.

THE BANKING LAW AND GUIDE LINE OF THE UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC STIPULATES
THAT IF SUCH MONEY REMAIN UNCLAIMED FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS, IT WILL BE
TRANSFERRED INTO THE BANKS TREASURE AS AN UNCLIAMED FUND. THE NEED FOR A
FORIEGNER AS NEXT-OF-KIN  IN THIS BUSINESS IS LOCATIONED BY THE FACT THAT
THE CUSTOMER WAS A FORIEGNER AND A NIGEIAN CANNOT STAND AS
HIS NEXT-OF-KIN OR HEIR.

WE AGREE THAT 20% OF THE MONEY WILL BE FOR YOU AS THE FOREIGN PARTNER, 70%
FOR MY COLLEGUES AND I, WHILE 10% HAS BEEN EMBACKED FOR CONTINGENCY EXPENCES
SUCH AS
TAXES AND BANK CHARGES. THERE AFTER MY COLLEGUES AND I WILL VISIT YOUR
COUNTRY FOR THE DISBUSMENT ACCORDING TO THE PERCNTAGE INDICARED. THEREFORE
TO ENABLE THE
IMMEDIATE TRANSFEROF THE FUND TO YOU AS INDICATED YOU MUST APPLY TO THE BANK
AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OF THE DECEASED INDICATING YOUR BANK ACCOUNT DETAIL FOR
THE
TRANSFER.

UPON RECIEPT OF YOUR REPLY BY EMAIL, I WILL SEND TO  YOU BY FAX THE TEXT OF
APPLICATION. AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THIS LETTER, YOU SHOULD CONTACT ME
IMMEDIATELY AND INDICATE YOUR DIRECT AND CONFIDENTIAL FAX NUMBER FOR
EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION.

THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% RISK FREE, BECAUSE I AM INCHARGE OF EVERYTHING.
TRUSTING TO HEAR FROM YOU IMMEDIATELY THROUGH MY E-MAIL ADDRESS:
ibrahim_ubn@yahoo.com                         or
              ibrahimhigher@yahoo.com

BEST REGARDS,,

DR.Ibrahim Yusuff. 
(MANAGER OF BILLS/FOREIGN REMITTANCE)
( UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC.)

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: DR. Ibrahim Yusuf. [<A =
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>ROM: DR. Ibrahim Yusuf.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>TEL:234-80-33235311</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>E-MAIL:ibrahim_ubn@yahoo.com&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>VERY CONFIDENTIAL</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ATTN;SIR,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I AM THE MANAGER OF BILLS AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN =
REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC.&nbsp;&nbsp; I AM =
WRITING THIS LETTER TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND CO-OPERATION TO CARRY =
OUT THIS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY IN MY DEPARTMENT.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>WE DISCOVERED AN UNCLAIMED SUM OF US$15.2M =
(FIFTEEN&nbsp; MILLION, TWO HUNDRED THOUSND UNITED STATE DOLLARS ONLLY) =
IN AN ACCOUNT THAT BELONGS TO ONE OF OUR FOREIGN CUSTOMERS WHO DIED =
ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY IN NOVEMBER 1999, IN A PLAIN =
CRASH.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>SINCE WE GOT THE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS DEATH, WE HAVE =
BEEN EXPECTING HIS NEXT OF KIN TO COME FORWARD TO CLAIM HIS MONEY =
BECAUSE WE CANNOT RELEASE THE MONEY UNLESS SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR IT AS =
THE NEXT-OF-KIN OR RELATION TO THE DECEASED AS INDICATED IN OUR =
BANKING</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>GUIDE LINE.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER THE FAMILY NOR RELATIONS HAS =
SHOWN UP TO CLAIM THIS MONEY AT THIS DISCOVERY, I AND OTHER OFFICIALS =
IN THE DEPARTMENT NOW DECIDED TO TRANSACT THIS BUSINESS WITH YOU AND =
TRANSFER THE FUND INTO YOUR ACCOUNT AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OR RELATION =
OF</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>THE DECEASED FOR SAFTY AND SUBCEQUENT DISBUSMENT =
SINCE NO BODY HAS COME UP TO CLAIM THIS MONEYS MOREOVER, WE DO NOT WANT =
THIS MONEY TO GO INTO THE&nbsp; BANKS TREASURY AS AN UNCLAIMED =
DEBT.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>THE BANKING LAW AND GUIDE LINE OF THE UNION BANK OF =
NIGERIAN PLC STIPULATES THAT IF SUCH MONEY REMAIN UNCLAIMED FOR A =
PERIOD OF THREE YEARS, IT WILL BE TRANSFERRED INTO THE BANKS TREASURE =
AS AN UNCLIAMED FUND. THE NEED FOR A FORIEGNER AS NEXT-OF-KIN&nbsp; IN =
THIS BUSINESS IS LOCATIONED BY THE FACT THAT THE CUSTOMER WAS A =
FORIEGNER AND A NIGEIAN CANNOT STAND AS</FONT></P>

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</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>WE AGREE THAT 20% OF THE MONEY WILL BE FOR YOU AS THE =
FOREIGN PARTNER, 70% FOR MY COLLEGUES AND I, WHILE 10% HAS BEEN =
EMBACKED FOR CONTINGENCY EXPENCES SUCH AS</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>TAXES AND BANK CHARGES. THERE AFTER MY COLLEGUES AND =
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INDICARED. THEREFORE TO ENABLE THE</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>IMMEDIATE TRANSFEROF THE FUND TO YOU AS INDICATED YOU =
MUST APPLY TO THE BANK AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OF THE DECEASED INDICATING =
YOUR BANK ACCOUNT DETAIL FOR THE</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>TRANSFER.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>UPON RECIEPT OF YOUR REPLY BY EMAIL, I WILL SEND =
TO&nbsp; YOU BY FAX THE TEXT OF APPLICATION. AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE =
THIS LETTER, YOU SHOULD CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY AND INDICATE YOUR DIRECT =
AND CONFIDENTIAL FAX NUMBER FOR EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% RISK FREE, BECAUSE I AM =
INCHARGE OF EVERYTHING. TRUSTING TO HEAR FROM YOU IMMEDIATELY THROUGH =
MY E-MAIL ADDRESS: =
ibrahim_ubn@yahoo.com&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; or</FONT></P>

<P><FONT =
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ibrahimhigher@yahoo.com</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>BEST REGARDS,,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>DR.Ibrahim Yusuff. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(MANAGER OF BILLS/FOREIGN REMITTANCE)</FONT>
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From: Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
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Subject: Oxfordshire Hat May 26th
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Hi Britdiscers,

We're running a hat in oxford this sunday.  The aim is to
bring together a the large number of ultimate players in
oxfordshire, from the new players to the gods and godesses
of the game.  We're providing a day of ultimate, a free
tshirt in the your team colour, fruit and a trip to the pub
afterwards.  If you live within range of oxford and want to
join us, you would be more than welcome.  More details
below.

Hope to see you there,
ben
_________________________________________________________
NEWS FLASH - we are now a sponsored event.  The Angel and
Greyhound is now supporting us.  This means that we can
reduce the price of registration for the Hat to 5 pounds on
the day (4 pounds if you register beforehand).

We want to use the hat as a way of bringing all the ultimate
players in oxford together for one tournament.  We've put
together a package which we hope will make this a real
event.

For your registration, apart from a full day of ultimate,
you'll also get an oxfordshire hat tshirt in the colour of
your team.  We also aim to provide fruit and squash,
changing room space and showers, as well as winners and
spirit prizes.  Which has got to be good value.

The intention is to get the cross section of the ultimate 
community involved.  I would hope that new players would 
get as much out of this event as the ultimate veterns.  It 
would also be great to use this event to bring in new 
players.  If there are people that you work with who you 
think would get a kick out of the sport - get them involved.  

If you have any questions - let us know.  Can you pass this 
on to others that I've missed - could someone forward this 
to the teamshark mailling list.

Ben

On Thu, 16 May 2002, Ben Booth wrote:

> 
> *************** 1ST OXFORDSHIRE HAT TOURNAMENT *************
> 
> We announce the 
> 	  ** 1st Oxfordshire Hat Tournament, 26th May '02 **
> Held in: 	Croft Road Rec Ground, Marston, Oxford
> 
> Directions: See bottom of this mail.
> 
> On-site Registration:  10.30 - 11.30am, on the day 
> Times:			Teams to be drawn at 11.30 am
> 			Games to start at 11.45pm
> 			All games to be completed by 6.30pm 
> 		       and presentations to be finished by 7
> 
> Registration costs will be 7.00 pounds on the day
> 		   (preregistration cost of 6.00 pounds)
> 
> For this we will provide you with: 
> 	Entrance to the first oxfordshire ultimate frisbee 
> 	Hat tournament,
> 	A 1ST Oxfordshire Hat TSHIRT in your team colours,
> 	Access to changing rooms and showers, toilets etc,
> 	fruit, squash
> 	Prizes for the winning team and the spirit prize
> 
> Preregistration available:  Grab me when you next see me or 
> find me at pre-registration in the Angel and Greyhound, 
> Thursday 23rd 8pm - 9pm 
> 
> After tournament party: Angel and Greyhound Pub, St.  
> Clements, from close of tournament onwards ...
> A chance to relax and wind down after the event and share 
> the stories of your day.
> 
> What is the Hat?:  
> This is the first Oxfordshire Hat tournament.  The
> motivation for the hat is to bring together the large number
> of ultimate players, both new and old, who are based in
> oxfordshire.
> A hat differs from the usual ultimate format in that you
> register as a player not as a team and place you name into
> one of 4 hats (beginners, intermediate, experienced or
> God/Goddes) before the tournament.  Teams are drawn so that
> they have the same number of players from each hat (same
> range of experience on each team).  They are a great way to
> experience an ultimate tournament as each player is valued
> for what they can do.  A chance to play with more
> experienced players than you as well as a opportunity to
> pass some of your own experience on to some of the
> beginners.
> 
> Directions: (1) From St. Clemonts, Take the Marston Road.  
> You're looking for the turn on your left into Croft Road.  
> The Rec ground is through the gap on the end.
> 	(2) From Summertown, take Marston Ferry Road.  Turn 
> right into oxford road and right again into Croft Road.  The 
> Rec Ground is through the gap on the right at the end of the 
> road.
> 	(3) From the centre of Town by bike.  From the 
> Science area take South Parks Road to the Linacre end.  Then 
> take the cycle path between linacre and the university parks 
> to it's end. Cross over Edgeway Road and you'll find a 
> footpath which runs between the fields and the houses 
> infront of you and slightly to the left.  Follow this to the 
> end and this should take you to the recreation ground.
> 	(4) From High Street by bus - No 13, 13A 13B or 13C 
> ask for a fare to Croft Road, Marston.  Get off at croft 
> road and you find the Rec Ground at the end of the road.
> 
> URL for map:  
> http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=europe&X=452000&Y=207500&scale=10000&width=700&height=400&gride=&gridn=&coordsys=gb&db=&overviewmap=&right.x=4&right.y=11&scale=10000
> 
> hope to see you all there,
> ben
> Further details: Contact me on: booth@atm.ox.ac.uk
> *********************** -- *** -- **************************
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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It is fair to say that Strange Blue has not represented itself very well
over the past week or so.  However, with respect to Yes but Nau I guess I
have to take personal responsibility.  I played with Strange Blue at YbN
last year and had a great time, so I was keen to organize at team for this
year's tournament.  Months ago when I asked people what they thought there
seemed to be sufficient interest that I registered for the tournament and
put up £65 or whatever of my own money for a team deposit.  However, as
the deadline for getting the rest of the money in approached, people were
pulling out and it became clear that I had only two options:  I
could risk trying to put together a team that would be almost entirely
made of pickups, without a great deal of time, or I could give the
organizers as much notice as possible that we were withdrawing.  I chose
to withdraw, and I let them know about 5 weeks before the tournament.  The
ways things worked out I ended up disappointed, out of pocket, and now
rather embarassed.  Not much of an explanation perhaps but those are the
facts.

Jonathan
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On Tue, 21 May 2002, Wayne Ziants wrote:

> Thanks to everyone that got in touch with me about Brass Eye (even the
> one person who told me "you shouldn't condone stuff like that " ).  Now
> that I know that it's commercially available on VHS and DVD, I won't
> trouble you with chasing up your efforts of getting a copy to me, but I
> appreciate your offers.
>  
> Just a quick word about about the Yes but Nau in Nantes which was
> excellent, like what Rimini was before it got too popular (apparently). 
> Janitors and Flyght Club (well, Sam Rey and a sprinkling of Mental Disc
> players) joined 17 teams from around Europe to play top quality Ultimate
> and generally lark about in the sand.  
>  
> One small problem: no Strange Blue.  To pull out of one tournament at
> short notice is unfortunate, but to pull out of 2 on the same
> weekend....?
>
> See you all soon
> Cheers
>
> Wayne
>
> email to wayne@team42.de
>
>  
>
> >From: "Rob Mitchell"
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: Brass Eye
> >Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 16:54:33 +0100
> >
> >hey wayne,
> >
> >nice to hear you're well, and preaching the gospel according to Chris
> Morris. The Paedo-geddon episode of Brass Eye isn't the best but it's
> well worth catching. You'll be overjoyed to hear that the whole series,
> including the special, has been released this week to buy on vhs and dvd.
> I'm sure you could order it from amazon.
> >
> >take care
> >
> >Rob
> >chevron
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Wayne Ziants
> > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:06 PM
> > Subject: Brass Eye
> >
> >
> > Hi from Germany
> >
> > there's not much about Britain I miss (all your smiling happy faces top
> of the list, natch) but quality TV in a language I understand is one of
> them. I just found out that Channel 4 is broadcasting THAT Brass Eye
> episode tonight (10.30 apparently). Now I've never seen it, and it
> crossed my mind that someone might want to do a desperate exile a little
> favour and get it on video for me.
> >
> > I've thought this through very carefully: I'll be heading to Nantes
> this weekend, and could arrange an exchange on the beach. So, if you're
> going there (Janitors, FlyghtClub, Strange Blue I'm thinking you) and you
> fancy a beer and a blank video in exchange (the very least I could do!)
> then please make an old man very happy.
> >
> > If you manage to tape it, please let me know tomorrow, and we can sort
> something out.
> >
> > Apologies for nonUltimateness of message. Enjoy the sun!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> > wayne@team42.de
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Yes But Nau 2002 is over
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Yes BUT Nau 2002 - 3rd Edition - By Les Frisbeurs Nantais
18th - 20th May, Nau's beach

Thanks for all of you who made it happen

Spirit of the Game : UFO (Arradon - France)

1. Iznogood Old School (Stains - France)
2. Team 42 (Frankfort - Allemagne)
3. Gummibaerchen (Karlsruhe - Allemagne)
4. Invalides (Paris - France)
5. XLR8RS (Bruxelles - Belgique)
6. Arsenic (Versailles - France)
7. Mild Mannered Janitors (Leeds - Angleterre)
8. Les Frisbeurs (Nantes - France)
9. Jack Suns (Fontenay-le-Comte - France)
10. Mooncatchers (Bruxelles - Belgique)
11. OUF (Tours - France)
12. Schwaben (Stuttgart - Allemagne)
13. Discostars (Saint Herblain - France)
14. Chaos Theory (World)
15. SUN (Creteil - France)
16. Flyght Club (Nottingham - Angleterre)
17. Sesquidistus (Strasbourg - France)
18. UFO (Arradon - France)
19. Disc Horde (Pornichet - France)
20. Pick Up

See You Next Year

Les Frisbeurs Nantais

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From: Andrew Feltham <af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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Subject: Tour 33 1/3 : The unofficial Tour
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Right, its about time i started to get sorted for Tour 33 1/3 : The
unoffical tour.

Held in Southampton at Wellington Sports ground this will be a mini tour.
We have space for 24 teams and 6 lush, flat green pitches. There WILL BE
first aid on site, food, a bar and on site camping like the normal tour.
You wont need to be rostered, you will just need to pay the 100 for
tournament entry.

For entry simply send 100 payable to SU Frisbee to
	338 Burgess Road
	Swaythling
	Southampton
	SO16 3BJ
with Team name and contact details on the back of the cheque.

Cheers, Trig
Skunks #11



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Poor buggers apparently all died "IN A PLAIN CRASH." Just imagine how much 
harder things would be for Dr Ibrahim Yusuff had it been an elaborate one.





>From: " DR. Ibrahim Yusuf." <ibrahim_ubn@lycos.com>
>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: VERY CONFIDENTIAL          Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 04:08:17
>
>ROM: DR. Ibrahim Yusuf.
>TEL:234-80-33235311
>E-MAIL:ibrahim_ubn@yahoo.com
>
>VERY CONFIDENTIAL
>ATTN;SIR,
>
>I AM THE MANAGER OF BILLS AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT 
>OF UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC.   I AM WRITING THIS LETTER TO ASK FOR YOUR 
>SUPPORT AND CO-OPERATION TO CARRY OUT THIS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY IN MY 
>DEPARTMENT.
>
>WE DISCOVERED AN UNCLAIMED SUM OF US$15.2M (FIFTEEN  MILLION, TWO HUNDRED 
>THOUSND UNITED STATE DOLLARS ONLLY) IN AN ACCOUNT THAT BELONGS TO ONE OF 
>OUR FOREIGN CUSTOMERS WHO DIED ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY IN NOVEMBER 
>1999, IN A PLAIN CRASH.
>
>SINCE WE GOT THE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS DEATH, WE HAVE BEEN EXPECTING HIS 
>NEXT OF KIN TO COME FORWARD TO CLAIM HIS MONEY BECAUSE WE CANNOT RELEASE 
>THE MONEY UNLESS SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR IT AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OR RELATION TO 
>THE DECEASED AS INDICATED IN OUR BANKING
>GUIDE LINE.
>
>UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER THE FAMILY NOR RELATIONS HAS SHOWN UP TO CLAIM THIS 
>MONEY AT THIS DISCOVERY, I AND OTHER OFFICIALS IN THE DEPARTMENT NOW 
>DECIDED TO TRANSACT THIS BUSINESS WITH YOU AND TRANSFER THE FUND INTO YOUR 
>ACCOUNT AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OR RELATION OF
>THE DECEASED FOR SAFTY AND SUBCEQUENT DISBUSMENT SINCE NO BODY HAS COME UP 
>TO CLAIM THIS MONEYS MOREOVER, WE DO NOT WANT THIS MONEY TO GO INTO THE  
>BANKS TREASURY AS AN UNCLAIMED DEBT.
>
>THE BANKING LAW AND GUIDE LINE OF THE UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC STIPULATES 
>THAT IF SUCH MONEY REMAIN UNCLAIMED FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS, IT WILL BE 
>TRANSFERRED INTO THE BANKS TREASURE AS AN UNCLIAMED FUND. THE NEED FOR A 
>FORIEGNER AS NEXT-OF-KIN  IN THIS BUSINESS IS LOCATIONED BY THE FACT THAT 
>THE CUSTOMER WAS A FORIEGNER AND A NIGEIAN CANNOT STAND AS
>HIS NEXT-OF-KIN OR HEIR.
>
>WE AGREE THAT 20% OF THE MONEY WILL BE FOR YOU AS THE FOREIGN PARTNER, 70% 
>FOR MY COLLEGUES AND I, WHILE 10% HAS BEEN EMBACKED FOR CONTINGENCY 
>EXPENCES SUCH AS
>TAXES AND BANK CHARGES. THERE AFTER MY COLLEGUES AND I WILL VISIT YOUR 
>COUNTRY FOR THE DISBUSMENT ACCORDING TO THE PERCNTAGE INDICARED. THEREFORE 
>TO ENABLE THE
>IMMEDIATE TRANSFEROF THE FUND TO YOU AS INDICATED YOU MUST APPLY TO THE 
>BANK AS THE NEXT-OF-KIN OF THE DECEASED INDICATING YOUR BANK ACCOUNT DETAIL 
>FOR THE
>TRANSFER.
>
>UPON RECIEPT OF YOUR REPLY BY EMAIL, I WILL SEND TO  YOU BY FAX THE TEXT OF 
>APPLICATION. AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THIS LETTER, YOU SHOULD CONTACT ME 
>IMMEDIATELY AND INDICATE YOUR DIRECT AND CONFIDENTIAL FAX NUMBER FOR 
>EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION.
>
>THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% RISK FREE, BECAUSE I AM INCHARGE OF EVERYTHING. 
>TRUSTING TO HEAR FROM YOU IMMEDIATELY THROUGH MY E-MAIL ADDRESS: 
>ibrahim_ubn@yahoo.com                         or
>               ibrahimhigher@yahoo.com
>
>BEST REGARDS,,
>
>DR.Ibrahim Yusuff.
>(MANAGER OF BILLS/FOREIGN REMITTANCE)
>( UNION BANK OF NIGERIAN PLC.)




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Hey guys.
Does anybody know when the Tour 33 1/3 is?

Thanks
Taz

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Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:20:00 +0100 (BST)
From: Andrew Feltham <af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
To: "Sarampalis, Anastasios" <asaram@essex.ac.uk>
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Doh! knew i forgot something - 6th / 7th July

Sorry Everyone

Trig

On Wed, 22 May 2002, Sarampalis, Anastasios wrote:

>
> Hey guys.
> Does anybody know when the Tour 33 1/3 is?
>
> Thanks
> Taz
>



af199@ecs.soton.ac.uk
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From: Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk>
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Hi Britdisc,

I've been asked by the council as part of the conditions for 
the hire of the ground that I will be required to supply 
liability insurance against damage (up to 2,000,000 pounds).  
I think this is a fairly standard requirement.  How have 
other TDs dealt with this?  Are there Ultimate friendly 
insurance agents?  

Cheers
ben


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Subject: a new team is born
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 20:43:17 +0100
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Announcing birth of brand new team - "Discus Infurness"

Based in south Cumbria (Broughton-In-Furness), mixed, outdoor, gradually
becoming less comical.

What a lark.

JAMES

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so... 44 teams at Tour 1 and 40 at Tour 2

Nationals is planned to be a 32 team full knockout, dependent on
interest. Seedings will be derived from performance in the UKU Tour.

I'd like to hear from all team captains that expect to / are interested
in bringing their team to take part in the UKU Outdoor National
Championship.


Some info:

Dates:
 Sat 30/08 & Sun 01/09 2002

Venue:
 Allied Dunbar Conference & Training Centre, King Edwards Place, Swindon

Accommodation:
 (TBC) Free Camping within walking distance of pitches
 Onsite rooms for 1, with ensuite bathrooms, colour TV, full English
breakfast, £35.00. Available Saturday night only. A minimum of 30 rooms
would need to be booked before the end of June for us to use this
option. All rooms must be booked in advance of the tournament.
 Local B&Bs/Hotels

Food:
 Pitchside all-day BBQ
 Pitchside clubhouse with bar
 Potential for on site dinner (Pasta Bolognese/Chicken
risotto/Vegetarian Pasta) at ~ £6.50 per head

Party: 
 (TBC) Party venue on site. Unfortunately it's not possible to get a
late license.

 
We're hoping to do all of this for about £100.00 per team (assuming 32
teams)


Let me know if you're expecting to be there / would like to be there by
emailing layoutdreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk

Thanks
Wayne

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Subject: Re: Liability insurance for ultimate
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Ben,

I've never encountered your situation.

Do you means potential damage to the venue?

Layout Dreams and/or Fluid Druids (my experiences as TD) have never been
required to have any insurance for the potential for damage to the
site(s) they've used.

I'd have figured that grounds available to hire for sports would be
covered for this sort of thing already, and build the costs into their
hire charges?

Someone official at UKU may know more...?

Wayne Retter

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Wayne's right, venues which hire themselves out should already be insured.  I
used to work for a leisure Company, we always had to factor insurance costs into
out tender bids, then passed this cost on to our customers through the hire
charge.  If they continue to press you for this I'd go elsewhere as they are
trying to diddle you and the insurance could be quite expensive.




Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk> on 22/05/2002 19:46:01

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Subject:  Re: Liability insurance for ultimate



Ben,

I've never encountered your situation.

Do you means potential damage to the venue?

Layout Dreams and/or Fluid Druids (my experiences as TD) have never been
required to have any insurance for the potential for damage to the
site(s) they've used.

I'd have figured that grounds available to hire for sports would be
covered for this sort of thing already, and build the costs into their
hire charges?

Someone official at UKU may know more...?

Wayne Retter

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Thanks for the replies,

This appears to be a standard policy of the council for all
council grounds in oxford.  I believe that the 'standard'
sports (football, cricket) have a general insurance which
covers this bill which they hold as a standard policy for
the season.  Unfortunately we're limited in oxford with most
grounds being held by territorial university college
groundsmen, who are reluctant to allow their life's work on
maintaining the ground go for a event external to their
college.  Which doesn't leave much apart from the council
grounds.

I'd be suprised to hear that this was something that only 
oxford city council did.  

Unfortunately this issue has come up to late in the day to
move the event!!

Ben

On Thu, 23 May 2002, Simon Statham wrote:

> Wayne's right, venues which hire themselves out should already be insured.  I
> used to work for a leisure Company, we always had to factor insurance costs into
> out tender bids, then passed this cost on to our customers through the hire
> charge.  If they continue to press you for this I'd go elsewhere as they are
> trying to diddle you and the insurance could be quite expensive.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk> on 22/05/2002 19:46:01
> 
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> To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> cc:    (bcc: Simon Statham/Transportation/BCC)
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> 
> Subject:  Re: Liability insurance for ultimate
> 
> 
> 
> Ben,
> 
> I've never encountered your situation.
> 
> Do you means potential damage to the venue?
> 
> Layout Dreams and/or Fluid Druids (my experiences as TD) have never been
> required to have any insurance for the potential for damage to the
> site(s) they've used.
> 
> I'd have figured that grounds available to hire for sports would be
> covered for this sort of thing already, and build the costs into their
> hire charges?
> 
> Someone official at UKU may know more...?
> 
> Wayne Retter
> 
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hey Ben,

Are you sure its not the 'Public Liability Insurance'?
I(n which case Ben can supply you with a copy that should suffice.

The local Council in Nottingham needed to know it was covered too.
in case you are interested in other strange council requirements

They also charged a £200 Bond in case of damage to the toilet facilities
And £50 + £200 Bond in case of damage to the grass?!?!?!




Sam

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I posted a message to britdisc about an hour ago and it 
hasn't shown up so assuming it is lost.  Appologies if you 
eventually get both.  

The ground we are trying to use is city council recreation
grounds.  Having spoken to their sports officer this morning
I have a clearer idea of the situations.  These grounds are
also used by football and Cricket players through the year.  
Apparently as part of their affiliation with fifa or the cc
of england and wales, they get indemnity insurence for
claims against the grounds owners that they play on.  The
council here are not used to dealing this sports which don't
provide the cover and I've got them runnign around at the
moment seeing if they can do anything.  

This seems to be a standard practice for the council.  This 
maybe just oxford but the fact that other sports governing 
bodies provide liability insurance for there sports suggests 
that it is more widspread.  I would be suprised if other 
teams haven't encountered this problem with other council 
grounds.  

Is this something that the UKU should be thinking about
obtaining?  On an individual event basis the fees are quite
large (costs approx 80 pounds as far as I can gather for a
single event for upto 250 people).  However on a large scale
- to cover all events for all clubs this cost would be alot
smaller.

Ben
[we limited in oxford in ground space - most playing fields 
are own by college feifdoms who are reluctant to allow 
external sporting events on their green surfaces (even 
students aren't allowed to walk on the grass)]

On Thu, 23 May 2002, Simon Statham wrote:

> Wayne's right, venues which hire themselves out should already be insured.  I
> used to work for a leisure Company, we always had to factor insurance costs into
> out tender bids, then passed this cost on to our customers through the hire
> charge.  If they continue to press you for this I'd go elsewhere as they are
> trying to diddle you and the insurance could be quite expensive.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk> on 22/05/2002 19:46:01
> 
> Please respond to Wayne Retter <wayne@fluiddruids.com>
> 
> To:   britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> cc:    (bcc: Simon Statham/Transportation/BCC)
> 
> 
> Subject:  Re: Liability insurance for ultimate
> 
> 
> 
> Ben,
> 
> I've never encountered your situation.
> 
> Do you means potential damage to the venue?
> 
> Layout Dreams and/or Fluid Druids (my experiences as TD) have never been
> required to have any insurance for the potential for damage to the
> site(s) they've used.
> 
> I'd have figured that grounds available to hire for sports would be
> covered for this sort of thing already, and build the costs into their
> hire charges?
> 
> Someone official at UKU may know more...?
> 
> Wayne Retter
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Hey all,

Anybody on the lookout for a pickup for coed tour two? I play Smash & 
Grab and Shocker usually, but, alas, no room for us this time around.
Let me know.

Cheers,

Mads (previously the bearded one)
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Hi
Is it just me or is everyone getting fed up with all the C*** we get on
BD at the moment. Is there noway for the owner to limit who can send
messages to the list? Its just that I don't want to know about money
sitting in Nigerian banks or welding!

Pimpy
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PS Thanks to  the organisers & all we played for a great Tour 2

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Just so you ALL know - I'm currently trying to assess how many teams
would like to play at Nationals, mostly so that I can budget
appropriately, the format is a secondary concern to me right now.



Quick comment on the format though, that will hopefully answer Andy's
questions.

UKU U8 Rules for 2002 say:

1 B     UK Ultimate National Finals 
        1 The format for 2002 Nationals is based on a simple knockout
system. This gives an equal chance for any qualifying teams to win the
tournament. 
        2 In order to calculate which teams qualify for National Finals
every result from each of the four events is counted. Teams will not be
allowed to discard their worst result. 
        3 At least the top 16 teams from the tour ranking list will
qualify for National Finals. 
        4 Nationals format will be based on (at least) a sixteen team
basic knockout format (i.e. no pools), seeded according to the tour
finishing positions. The tournament will try and be expanded to 32 teams
should a venue big enough and demand allow it but this cannot be
guaranteed.

This format was first employed in 2001, after much discussion in all
sorts of places (Britdisc included) about how Nationals could/should be
run.

Regards
Wayne


>hi wayne,
>you say "32 team full knockout" - do you mean Wimbledon style, in that
>there's no pools, just a requirement to win every game? If so, is the
>tournament split into two divisions? 1-16 and 17-32? If that's the case,
>then there's not really enough games per team for the tournament, in my
>opinion. If it's one big division, then surely that would be a complete
>waste of half the tournament - the difference in ability between the top
>team and say the 16th team is big enough. To force the top four or five
>teams to play the bottom four or five is a joke, and a waste of what could
>be an awesome climax to the season.
>
>Just my thoughts.... I'd be interested to know what you think.
>
>Andy

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Mon, 20 May 2002, by Kevin Lowe <mailto:Kev_Lowe@hotmail.com>;
 Subject: tour 2 results
>Short report will follow later.
>
>1  Clapham 1    (Championship)
>2  Chevron Action Flash
>3  TeamShark

By my calculations, the points awarded for this tournament would
therefore be:

1       Clapham 1               250
2       Chevron Action Flash    230
3       TeamShark               222
4       Fluid Druids            210
5       Clapham 2               205
6       Un Poco Loco            190
7       LeedsLeedsLeeds         181
8       Smash & Grab            170
9       Blue Arse Flies 1       160
10      Fusion                  150
11      Whey                    141
12      Red 1                   130
13      STD                     125
14      Headrush 1              110
15      Martie McFly            101
16      Hammerage 1              90
17      Atomic Horse             81
18      Hammerage 2              77
19      Mud Culture              73
20      Flyght Club 1            70
21      Kamaya Maya              67
22      Revolution               63
23      Slipdisc 1               60
24      Blue Arse Flies 2        57
25      Bad Habits               53
26      Swivel                   50
27      Skunks                   47
28      -                        43
29      North South Divide       40
30      Trigger Happy            37
31      Albatross                33
32      Chuft                    30
33      Butt                     27
34      Uriel                    23
35      Red 2                    20
36      JB7                      17
37      SlipDisc 2               13
38      Rats of Nimh             10
39      Air Badgers               7
40      Discoordinated            3

Though I'm wondering about the way that any empty space in the final
positions gets 43 points !?

Anyone official care to verify ?


Regards
Wayne

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We're not currently planning to have Women's Nationals alongside Open
Nationals.

Are you sure there are no plans for Women's Nationals?

Wayne

>Wayne,
>
>I was wondering if it was 32 teams because of the size
>of the tournament, or if we could run women's
>nationals at the same event as there seems to be no
>plan for it anywhere else at the moment (and I want to
>go to nationals and I doubt if mohawk mwnci magic will
>get in...)
>
>just an idea 
>
>nicole
>mohawks/other teams...


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in order of finishing positions at Tour 2 Exeter. Cheques received so far
for Tour 3 Banbury:

1	Clapham 1		
2	Chevron Action Flash    145
3	TeamShark               145
4	Fluid Druids            145
5	Clapham 2               		
6	Un Poco Loco            145
7	LeedsLeedsLeeds         145
8	Smash & Grab            145
9	Blue Arse Flies 1       135
10	Fusion                  135
11	Whey                    		
12	Red 1                   		
13	STD                     		
14	Headrush 1              		
15	Martie McFly            125
16	Hammerage 1             		
17	Atomic Horse            		
18	Hammerage 2             	
19	Mud Culture             125
20	Flyght Club 1           		
21	Kamaya Maya             		
22	Revolution              		
23	Slipdisc 1              125
24	Blue Arse Flies 2       125
25	Bad Habits              		
26	Swivel                  		
27	Skunks                  		
28	-                       		
29	North South Divide    	125
30	Trigger Happy           125
31	Albatross               		
32	Chuft                   		
33	Butt                  125
34	Uriel                   		
35	Red 2                   		
36	JB7                     		
37	SlipDisc 2            	125
38	Rats of Nimh          	125
39	Air Badgers             		
40	Discoordinated          		

	Chevron Mixed		125
	Strange Blue		125
	Mud Culture 2		125


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All

REMINDER
Deadline for entrants to Tour 3 is Friday 7th June.

ta

Stig

TOUR 3 
Banbury
22/23 June 2002 

Jim and Paul "Stig" Unwin will host Tour 3 at Banbury School, Banbury, Oxon
on the weekend of the 22/23rd June. The deadline for all entrants is Friday
7th June. (you have 3 weeks)

Last year we held Tour 2 at a different venue: Bodicote park, unfortunately,
the rugby club didnt pay their Business rates so they have been taken to the
cleaners by the local council. Place is not available for hire this year. So
we are using an alternative site very close by, just 2 miles closer to
Banbury town centre.

Highlights of this years tournament:

> A team of masseurs, aromatherapist, physiotherapist.

> free apples, oranges, bananas, and water melons.

> Games on Pitch 1 filmed by Block Stack, who will have 3 cameras on hand.

> 2 Bars on site. Magistrates should grant extension as result of World Cup
match on Saturday night 

> On site camping.

> Ice Cream van.

> World Cup Quarter Final (Could feature England) televised in Clubhouse.

> Jim is still working on the Cheerleaders, Hot-tubs, Limos and video
replays for Wayne.

NUMBER OF TEAMS: We hope to accommodate however many teams want to play.
Obvious preference for divisibility by 4. We have 16 pitches.

ENTRY FEE 
Seeds 1-8 £145
Seeds 9-16 £135
Seeds 17+ and Womens teams £125 

Send cheque payable to Paul Unwin to:
UKU Tour 3, 44 Swinegate, Grantham, Lincs, NG31 6RL

with the following details:
YOUR NAME:
TEAM NAME:
ADDRESS:
TEL NO:
MOBILE NO:
E-MAIL ADDRESS:

I shall not accept cheques given to me in person.

Lowlights

CAR PARKING - Ample car parking available, central to all fields. 

CAMPING - On site camping available behind sports hall at end of site.
Changing rooms, 24hr toilet facilities @ sportshall. All available Friday
night.

CHANGING/SHOWERS - 4 separate changing and showering areas.  I aint gonna
make any promises about the showers. Cold showers are good for you, they
help your body recuperate from the rigors of playing ultimate. Dont blame
the shower temperature for size of your weeners. 

FOOD - Good quality food supplied in refectory/buttery. Drinks, fruit and
donuts available on fields. 

DIRECTIONS TO BANBURY SCHOOL: 
M40 to Banbury. Head for Banbury Town Centre, Follow signs for Horton
General Hospital. When directly outside the hospital turn up Horton View. Go
straight over Springfield Avenue into Ruskin Road and Banbury School.

Use this link to get you to the school:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=OX169HY
arrow points at the fields

Use this link when you arrive:
http://www.banbury.oxon.sch.uk/Contacts/Sitemap.html

Camping is at far end of the site. (extreme left of site map) fields are
behind Wykham, Broughton and Stanbridge. 

ACCOMMODATION: 
If you cant face camping
here is a list of BnBs/hotels close by:

Amberley Guest House 151 Middleton Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 255797
Ashley Guest House 58 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250539
Avonlea Guest House 41 Southam Road Banbury		Tel 01295 267837
Banbury Cross Bed and Breakfast 1 Brougton Rd Banbury	Tel 01295 266048
Belmont Guest House 34 Crouch Street Banbury 		Tel 01295 262308
Calthorpe Lodge Guest House 4 Calthorpe St Banbury 	Tel 01295 252325
Cotefield B & B 1 Cotefield Cottages Bodicote Banbury	Tel 01295 264977
Fairlawns Guest House 60 Oxford Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262461
Fair View Lodge Guest Hse 1 Fairview Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262181
Fernliegh Guest House 67 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250853
Prospect Guest House 70 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 268749
The Roebuck Inn Stratford Road  Drayton Banbury		Tel 01295 730542
Treetops Guest House 28 Dashwood Road Banbury 		Tel 01295 254444
Virginia House B&B 1 High Street Bloxham Banbury	Tel 01295 720596
Winstons Guest House 65 Oxford Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 270790


Hotels and Inns

The Cartwright arms Croughton Road Aynho Banbury	Tel 01869 811111
Cromwell Lodge Hotel 9-11 North Bar Banbury		Tel 01295 259781
Easington House Hotel 50 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 270181
The Deddington Arms HorsefAIr Deddington			Tel 01869
338364
Holcombe Hotel High Street Deddington			Tel 01869 338274
Horse and Groom Milcombe Banbury			Tel 01295 720471
Lismore Hotel 61 Oxford Road Banbury			Tel 01295 267661
The Marlborough Arms 1a Gatteridge St Banbury 		Tel 01295 258258
The Lampet Arms Main St Tadmarton Banbury		Tel 01295 780070
The Red Lion at Adderbury, Adderbury Banbury	Tel 01295 810269
The Swan Inn  3 South Bar Banbury				Tel 01295
262900


If you need either of us we can be contacted via:

E-mail address: punwin@grantham.ac.uk (for all queries)
phone: 01476 577993 (Stigs home phone)
mobile: 07790 187203 (nj's mobile phone.) 

See you all at Tour 2.

Stig

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<P>Hi everyone</P>
<P>Is there any women's teams going to Tour 3? If so, do any of you need another body for the pitch?</P>
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csv test1

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This is a test of the new britdisc mailing list. I will be announcing the
list properly when I have done more testing, so for now, please ignore this
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Thanks,
	Ralf.

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I am trying to get a ride to Mixed Tour 2 in Leeds from Cambridge ...
can you help?

The fine details are that I hope to catch a coach from Stansted Airport
to Cambridge which is due to arrive in Drummer Street at 12:30 ... just
as England are kicking off against Argentina! If you can suggest a
decent pub close to the coach station for watching the game I'd be VERY
GRATEFUL!

MASSIVE REWARD - PLEASE CAN YOU HELP?

Sammy Neilson ... trying to get to his last UK event before flying off
to New Zealand!

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From: John Bygrave <john@interdirect.co.uk>
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Subject: pick up for tour 3 banbury!
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:56:59 +0100
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Hello all,

I am looking for a pickup game at TOUR 3 Banbury on the 22/23 June 2002. If
any team is short of players then am more than willing to help out, as I
know just turning up isn't really the norm any more.  

I used to play for a junior side "gooey kapolie", and also the GB juniors
including two worlds and one euros. Unfortunately I haven't played for a few
years and am trying to get back into it again.

with thanks

Cheers

John Bygrave
New Media Architect
[W] http://www.interdirect.co.uk/
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From: "Simon Statham" <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk>
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Subject: More Brumii Five 0
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Thanks to some tough negotiations on our part we have managed to put back the
date by which we have to pay the deposit on the venue for this tournament, so we
have a little more time.

I am sure most of you will have seen me advertise this a few times, so I won't
bore you with the details. Go to : http://fluidltd.co.uk/brummiefive-0/ for
details.  Basically: Birmingham, 10th/11August, £85.

If there is anyone out there who thinks their team might like to come but you
can't raise a cheque yet, then please e-mail me on simonstatham@yahoo.co.uk.  We
still need to know the likely demand for this tournament if we are to go ahead
with it.

Cheers

Si
(Slipdisc)




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Can anybody out there give me a lift to Eastbourne form Luton. I'm only
5mins from junction10 of the M1. 

Thanks,

Dazza

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Subject: London League is on at last
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Hi folks

Just a note to let you know that the London summer league is on.

Usual deal:

* Wednesday nights
* Coed (5 and 2 on the pitch)
* Games at Regents Park and Clapham Common, with marked pitches

Teams are registering now, with the first games scheduled for June 12th. So
hurry if you want to enter a team - you have about ten days before I close
the entry and write a schedule.

More info at:

http://www.londonultimate.org

Cheers

Paul

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If anyone travelling to the Brit Open is going past or near to Lancaster and 
has three spare seats in their car/bus, then there are three Fish who would 
very much like to fill those spaces. Our lift has fallen through and we 
can't get down South. We could travel a bit, to meet people somewhere fairly 
near. I know its a bit late, but if you can help please let us know. 
Obviously a lift back might be nice too and petrol money is on offer.
Cheers
Shit (Fish)


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cheers everybody,

please find below the amazing number of things an ultimate player can forget
on a field...

please forward the list to your teamates

hats
black cap / nike
blue cap / crealogix
green cap / 11th int. congress of myrinpodology
red cap / adidas
beige-kaki cap / bpt - atlantis
beige sunhat / ultimate milano
orange sunhat / jaegermeister

shoes
beige reebok running shoes (with holes) / 11
blue nike cleats / 9.5

discs
disc club panthers
superfly (with a hole)
mut mcgill ultimate team

clothes
blue nylon rain pelerine / xxl
black nylon rain coat / sportline c.c.s. / m
white tanktop / schiesser / xxl
beige tanktop w/buttons / l
white t-shirt / xl
brown longsleeve / conwell / l
black t-shirt / 'black uruhu'
black pullover / coca-cola
light grey t-shirt / zuf / l
blue longsleeve / gotcha / xl
dark grey longsleeve / new fast c&a
red t-shirt / cusb ultimate bologna / xl
black sleeveless t-shirt / vinci / l
white grey t-shirt / new zealand ultimate championship wellington 98
white sleeveless t-shirt / freezzz beezzz brugge / xl
white t-shirt / alcatel / xl
white t-shirt / varta experience 2001

diverse
grey 'scottish style' ombrella
knee pad / s

smelling socks & sticking underware
i threw them

here are some things left from the 2001 edition
blue rain coat / trespass / s
black pants / rei / s
beige-orange cap / omsd
black short / swiss team heilbron / l
green sweatter / wool - mcgregor / xxl
black watch / swatch
green t-shirt / radical / m
blue polo-shirt / ctd / xl
blue-white party shirt / next-ladieswear / uk8
white shirt / limited america / s
black shirt / diesel / l
black shirt / liable
white shirt / l'europa
green-purple-red-blue towel / rubin
grey towel / gala
white towel / big
green towel / bar le ressac
white towel / small
white disc / red i's
white disc / fsl

let me know if you find something yours

cha-cha-cha
the wizards - www.wizards.ch



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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myrinpodology</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>red cap / adidas</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>beige-kaki cap / bpt - =
atlantis</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>beige sunhat / ultimate =
milano</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>orange sunhat / =
jaegermeister</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>shoes</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>beige reebok running shoes (with holes) =
/=20
11</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>blue nike cleats / 9.5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>discs</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>disc club panthers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>superfly (with a hole)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mut mcgill ultimate team</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>clothes</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>blue nylon rain pelerine / =
xxl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black nylon rain coat / sportline =
c.c.s. /=20
m</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white tanktop / schiesser / =
xxl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>beige tanktop w/buttons / =
l</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white t-shirt / xl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>brown longsleeve / conwell / =
l</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black t-shirt / 'black =
uruhu'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black pullover / coca-cola</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>light grey t-shirt / zuf / =
l</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>blue longsleeve / gotcha / =
xl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>dark grey longsleeve / new fast=20
c&amp;a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>red t-shirt / cusb ultimate bologna /=20
xl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black sleeveless t-shirt / vinci / =
l</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white grey t-shirt / new zealand =
ultimate=20
championship wellington 98</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white sleeveless t-shirt / freezzz =
beezzz brugge /=20
xl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white t-shirt / alcatel / =
xl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white t-shirt / varta experience =
2001</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>diverse</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>grey 'scottish style' =
ombrella</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>knee pad / s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>smelling socks &amp; sticking=20
underware</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i threw them</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>here are some things left from the =
2001=20
edition</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>blue rain coat / trespass / =
s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black pants / rei / s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>beige-orange cap / omsd</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black short / swiss team heilbron / =
l</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>green sweatter / wool - mcgregor / =
xxl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black watch / swatch</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>green t-shirt / radical / =
m</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>blue polo-shirt / ctd / xl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>blue-white party shirt / =
next-ladieswear /=20
uk8</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white shirt / limited america / =
s</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black shirt / diesel / l</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>black shirt / liable</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white shirt / l'europa</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>green-purple-red-blue towel / =
rubin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>grey towel / gala</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white towel / big</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>green towel / bar le =
ressac</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white towel / small</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white disc / red i's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>white disc / fsl</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><U>let me know if you find something=20
yours</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><U><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></U>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cha-cha-cha</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the wizards - <A=20
href=3D"http://www.wizards.ch">www.wizards.ch</A> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Hi,

Can anyone help with the contacts for the following
please;

Hacki sac suppliers
Printed frisbee suppliers
Japanese noodle-type catering vans (Nancy Stebbing, is
this you?!!)

Need to organise these for the World Cup final -
organising a big screen and fun day at Ragley Hall -
all welcome of course!!!!!!!

I'll also be organising an ultimate demo probably in
the school holidays and hope to include golf and
freestyle displays as well as demo games and
'tuition'. If anyone has any bright ideas/would like
to be involved/can offer any advice etc please feel
free to get in touch. If it goes well it should be a
good 'in' for Ragley as a tour venue next year.....

Thanks a mill,
Loose 

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You:
- would like to play at the BritOpen this weekend
- can make your own way down there (whether you can get away again is not
our problem)
- don't object to the word 'flange'

We:
- are playing at the BritOpen
- have 7 players and space for some more (didn't Winston Churchill once say:
'the more, the merrier')
- also need a reliable lookout for a daring raid on the Seaview retirement
home in Eastbourne.

Let's make some lettuce of this staple gun !

Mail me or phone me on 07941 326732.
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From: Jimmy <jimmy@discdoctors.co.uk>
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Hi all,
Discdoctors have fallen short on numbers for this weekend in Eastbourne.
We are looking for 2 or 3 pickups, to play with us for a good laugh. We have 
a lift availiable from London, leaving very early on Saturday morning.

Cheers, 
Jimmy
dD

make sure you reply to me, not the list: jimmy@discdoctors.co.uk

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for those going to eastbourne...

...if anyone is, from anywhere vaguely near bath, and there is space in a car, 
and is willing to let it out to a (particularly well-behaved) bath student, 
please get back to me asap.

don't have a team (yet), but a quick scan through the archives show many gaps 
appearing. if my lift requires a pick-up, that would make it even more rosy.

oh, i'm alright as a player, would require some tent space, and due to exams 
travel on friday late evening would be best.

here's hoping.

cheers.
dean (blt & jb7).

ee0rs@bath.ac.uk
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Subject: Newsletter - women
From: jack <jgoolden@totalise.co.uk>
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Apparently someone was enquiring about the lack of =8Cwomen=B9s issues=B9 in the
UKU newsletter.

If this person would like to be a bit more pro-active and write something o=
n
the afore mentioned subject, there might be more about women in Newsletter2=
.
I=B9d like to think of myself as an expert on women, but sadly I don=B9t think
it=B9s true so I wouldn=B9t really want to write anything myself.

This goes for everybody. I=B9m not specially asking people to write articles
for the newsletter, I=B9m just publishing what people send me. At the moment
these tend to be from the Chevron or Superfly mailing list! If you want you=
r
team=B9s opinions/reports to be equally represented, you had better send stuf=
f
to me: editor@ukultimate.com

It=B9s your newsletter - It=B9s that easy!

Cheers =AD Jack
PS the next newsletter will be out sometime between 15-20 July.



I=B9ve had a query from one member about lack of women=B9s report in first
newsletter =AD will there be something in the next one? I guess it depends on
who does a write -up?

=20

NJ

UK Ultimate admin

=20

email: admin@ukultimate .com

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Hinkins [mailto:matthewhinkins@hotmail.com]
Sent: 30 May 2002 12:47
To: editor@ukultimate.com
Subject: Bruges write-up anyone?...

=20

Hiya Jack,
I know you haven't asked for it but I've got a Bruges write-up here that yo=
u
may or may not want to stick in the next news letter. It's exactly what you
were talking about in Issue no. 1 actually - written for our E-mail group s=
o
if it's too trashy feel free to alter or reject it.

See you in Banbury?
Gaff.



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<FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal">Apparently someone was enquiring about the lack of &#=
8216;women&#8217;s issues&#8217; in the UKU newsletter.<BR>
<BR>
If this person would like to be a bit more pro-active and write something o=
n the afore mentioned subject, there might be more about women in Newsletter=
2. I&#8217;d like to think of myself as an expert on women, but sadly I don&=
#8217;t think it&#8217;s true so I wouldn&#8217;t really want to write anyth=
ing myself.<BR>
<BR>
This goes for everybody. I&#8217;m not specially asking people to write art=
icles for the newsletter, I&#8217;m just publishing what people send me. At =
the moment these tend to be from the Chevron or Superfly mailing list! If yo=
u want your team&#8217;s opinions/reports to be equally represented, you had=
 better send stuff to me: editor@ukultimate.com<BR>
<BR>
It&#8217;s your newsletter - It&#8217;s that easy!<BR>
<BR>
Cheers &#8211; Jack<BR>
PS the next newsletter will be out sometime between 15-20 July.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I&#8217;ve had a query from one me=
mber about lack of women&#8217;s report in first newsletter &#8211; will the=
re be something in the next one? I guess it depends on who does a write -up?=
<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"> <BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">NJ<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">UK Ultimate admin<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"> <BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">email: admin@ukultimate .com<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"> <BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR>
<B>From:</B> Matthew Hinkins [mailto:matthewhinkins@hotmail.com] <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> 30 May 2002 12:47<BR>
<B>To:</B> editor@ukultimate.com<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Bruges write-up anyone?...<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Hiya Jack,<BR>
I know you haven't asked for it but I've got a </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"=
>Bruges write-up here that you<BR>
may or may not want to stick in the next news letter. It's exactly what you=
<BR>
were talking about in Issue no. 1 actually - written for our E-mail group s=
o<BR>
if it's too trashy feel free to alter or reject it.<BR>
<BR>
See you in Banbury?<BR>
Gaff.<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman"><BR>
<HR ALIGN=3DCENTER SIZE=3D"2" WIDTH=3D"100%">MSN Photos is the easiest way to sha=
re and print your photos: Click Here &lt;http://g.msn.com/1HM305301/45&gt; <=
BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
<BR>
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Apparently someone was enquiring about the lack of =8Cwomen=B9s issues=B9 in the
UKU newsletter.

If this person would like to be a bit more pro-active and write something o=
n
the afore mentioned subject, there might be more about women in Newsletter2=
.
I=B9d like to think of myself as an expert on women, but sadly I don=B9t think
it=B9s true so I wouldn=B9t really want to write anything myself.

This goes for everybody. I=B9m not specially asking people to write articles
for the newsletter, I=B9m just publishing what people send me. At the moment
these tend to be from the Chevron or Superfly mailing list! If you want you=
r
team=B9s opinions/reports to be equally represented, you had better send stuf=
f
to me: editor@ukultimate.com

It=B9s your newsletter - It=B9s that easy!

Cheers =AD Jack
PS the next newsletter will be out sometime between 15-20 July.



I=B9ve had a query from one member about lack of women=B9s report in first
newsletter =AD will there be something in the next one? I guess it depends on
who does a write -up?

=20

NJ

UK Ultimate admin

=20

email: admin@ukultimate .com

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Hinkins [mailto:matthewhinkins@hotmail.com]
Sent: 30 May 2002 12:47
To: editor@ukultimate.com
Subject: Bruges write-up anyone?...

=20

Hiya Jack,
I know you haven't asked for it but I've got a Bruges write-up here that yo=
u
may or may not want to stick in the next news letter. It's exactly what you
were talking about in Issue no. 1 actually - written for our E-mail group s=
o
if it's too trashy feel free to alter or reject it.

See you in Banbury?
Gaff.



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<FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal">Apparently someone was enquiring about the lack of &#=
8216;women&#8217;s issues&#8217; in the UKU newsletter.<BR>
<BR>
If this person would like to be a bit more pro-active and write something o=
n the afore mentioned subject, there might be more about women in Newsletter=
2. I&#8217;d like to think of myself as an expert on women, but sadly I don&=
#8217;t think it&#8217;s true so I wouldn&#8217;t really want to write anyth=
ing myself.<BR>
<BR>
This goes for everybody. I&#8217;m not specially asking people to write art=
icles for the newsletter, I&#8217;m just publishing what people send me. At =
the moment these tend to be from the Chevron or Superfly mailing list! If yo=
u want your team&#8217;s opinions/reports to be equally represented, you had=
 better send stuff to me: editor@ukultimate.com<BR>
<BR>
It&#8217;s your newsletter - It&#8217;s that easy!<BR>
<BR>
Cheers &#8211; Jack<BR>
PS the next newsletter will be out sometime between 15-20 July.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">I&#8217;ve had a query from one me=
mber about lack of women&#8217;s report in first newsletter &#8211; will the=
re be something in the next one? I guess it depends on who does a write -up?=
<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"> <BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">NJ<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">UK Ultimate admin<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"> <BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">email: admin@ukultimate .com<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"> <BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR>
<B>From:</B> Matthew Hinkins [mailto:matthewhinkins@hotmail.com] <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> 30 May 2002 12:47<BR>
<B>To:</B> editor@ukultimate.com<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Bruges write-up anyone?...<BR>
</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"><BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Hiya Jack,<BR>
I know you haven't asked for it but I've got a </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Charcoal"=
>Bruges write-up here that you<BR>
may or may not want to stick in the next news letter. It's exactly what you=
<BR>
were talking about in Issue no. 1 actually - written for our E-mail group s=
o<BR>
if it's too trashy feel free to alter or reject it.<BR>
<BR>
See you in Banbury?<BR>
Gaff.<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman"><BR>
<HR ALIGN=3DCENTER SIZE=3D"2" WIDTH=3D"100%">MSN Photos is the easiest way to sha=
re and print your photos: Click Here &lt;http://g.msn.com/1HM305301/45&gt; <=
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London Ultimate League - Skills Clinics 

Do you have a friend, co-worker or family member who is interested
in learning more about Ultimate? Then the Basic Skills Clinic would
be a good place to start! People of all ages and fitness levels are
welcome.



When will the Clinics be held?

The next Clinic will be 
Saturday, 8 July - Hyde Park (see arrow on map)

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=527315&Y=179860&A=Y&Z=1



What will I learn at the Skills Clinic?

At the Skills Clinic you'll learn about the rules of Ultimate and
the basic skills and knowledge needed to successfully play. Each
clinic will last about 90 minutes. 

BASIC - throwing, catching, rules, terminology, marking a handler,
handling a marker, effective cutting
INTERMEDIATE - tactics: stacking, defence, zone defence/offense

After each Clinic there will be a pick-up game so you can test out
your new-found skills!

 

Will it cost me anything?

Nope! London League Clinics are free, but donations are definitely
accepted - everything collected will be used to promote Ultimate in
London. Clinics are being kindly provided by volunteers from teams
throughout London League. 

 

What do I need to bring?

Not much:

* A disc if you have one
* A light-coloured shirt 
* A dark-coloured shirt
* Water


 
How can I learn more?

The best way to learn to play Ultimate is to Play Ultimate! During
the summer you can probably find a pick-up game (or organise your
own) on almost any day of the week.

If you'd like to learn more online, two excellent resources are
www.ultimatehandbook.com and www.whatisultimate.com


 

Mailing List

The London League mailing list will have announcements and news
about the League and Clinics. It's also a place where you can talk
about games, post results, etc. It's recommended that all players
join the list. There are two ways to subscribe. Either:

a) Visit www.yahoogroups.com/group/londonleague with your web
browser
or
b) Send an empty e-mail message to
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London Ultimate League - Skills Clinics 

Do you have a friend, co-worker or family member who is interested
in learning more about Ultimate? Then the Basic Skills Clinic would
be a good place to start! People of all ages and fitness levels are
welcome.



When will the Clinics be held?

The next Clinic will be 
Saturday, 8 July - Hyde Park (see arrow on map)

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=527315&Y=179860&A=Y&Z=1



What will I learn at the Skills Clinic?

At the Skills Clinic you'll learn about the rules of Ultimate and
the basic skills and knowledge needed to successfully play. Each
clinic will last about 90 minutes. 

BASIC - throwing, catching, rules, terminology, marking a handler,
handling a marker, effective cutting
INTERMEDIATE - tactics: stacking, defence, zone defence/offense

After each Clinic there will be a pick-up game so you can test out
your new-found skills!

 

Will it cost me anything?

Nope! London League Clinics are free, but donations are definitely
accepted - everything collected will be used to promote Ultimate in
London. Clinics are being kindly provided by volunteers from teams
throughout London League. 

 

What do I need to bring?

Not much:

* A disc if you have one
* A light-coloured shirt 
* A dark-coloured shirt
* Water


 
How can I learn more?

The best way to learn to play Ultimate is to Play Ultimate! During
the summer you can probably find a pick-up game (or organise your
own) on almost any day of the week.

If you'd like to learn more online, two excellent resources are
www.ultimatehandbook.com and www.whatisultimate.com


 

Mailing List

The London League mailing list will have announcements and news
about the League and Clinics. It's also a place where you can talk
about games, post results, etc. It's recommended that all players
join the list. There are two ways to subscribe. Either:

a) Visit www.yahoogroups.com/group/londonleague with your web
browser
or
b) Send an empty e-mail message to
londonleague-subscribe@yahoogroups.com




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Hi Britdisc,

This is for the attention of anyone attending this weekend's British Open 
in Eastbourne:

As well as loads of Ultimate, anyone involved is invited to take part in 
some of the other disc sports available to all.

Disc Golf - 9 Hole Course
Course available at 6.30pm on Saturday.
Further info will be available at tournament central.

If players want to try golf discs, there will be limited amount of spare 
discs for players to use/share.
There will also be new golf discs for sale at Tournament Central.
Scorecards provided.
There are prizes for the best round scores by a female and male.
Discology has donated two hotstamped Discraft XS golf drivers as prizes.
The hotstamp is from the British Open (disc golf) held in Mull earlier this 
month - very ltd edition.

Double Disc Court (Pick Up)
Pitches will be marked out and free to use.
Rules available for those unfamiliar.

Goaltimate (Pick Up)
Players are welcome to use the pitch as and when.
Rules available for those unfamiliar.

Distance Competition
Date and time to be confirmed - announced at tournament central.
Ultrastar Class and Golf Disc Class
Discology has again donated British Open custom XS golf drivers as prizes 
to the longest throw by a male /female.

If anyone needs more info on any of above, myself, Fiona and Jester hope to 
be in control of these areas throughout Saturday and Sunday.

See you.

Richard
07989 406256

Eastbourne, 1-3 May 2002
www.britopen.co.uk





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> [...] Over the course of a year, a lot of non-subscribers have
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Hi Britdisc,

This is for the attention of anyone attending this weekend's British Open 
in Eastbourne:

As well as loads of Ultimate, anyone involved is invited to take part in 
some of the other disc sports available to all.

Disc Golf - 9 Hole Course
Course available at 6.30pm on Saturday.
Further info will be available at tournament central.

If players want to try golf discs, there will be limited amount of spare 
discs for players to use/share.
There will also be new golf discs for sale at Tournament Central.
Scorecards provided.
There are prizes for the best round scores by a female and male.
Discology has donated two hotstamped Discraft XS golf drivers as prizes.
The hotstamp is from the British Open (disc golf) held in Mull earlier this 
month - very ltd edition.

Double Disc Court (Pick Up)
Pitches will be marked out and free to use.
Rules available for those unfamiliar.

Goaltimate (Pick Up)
Players are welcome to use the pitch as and when.
Rules available for those unfamiliar.

Distance Competition
Date and time to be confirmed - announced at tournament central.
Ultrastar Class and Golf Disc Class
Discology has again donated British Open custom XS golf drivers as prizes 
to the longest throw by a male /female.

If anyone needs more info on any of above, myself, Fiona and Jester hope to 
be in control of these areas throughout Saturday and Sunday.

See you.

Richard
07989 406256

Eastbourne, 1-3 May 2002
www.britopen.co.uk





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> A quick question about allowing posts
> only from subscribed addresses.

> I have a bunch of email addresses aliases to my
> subscribed address, mostly because my uni likes to
> change the format of my address that it sends out
> (i.e. new.ox.ac.uk sometimes is new.oxford.ac.uk  etc.)

I can put in explicit exceptions to allow e-mail from certain addresses.
This is mainly useful for things like an automated events listing, etc. This
requires effort on my part, though, so I'd rather restrict this to cases
where that account really is send-only.

If you do have variations on e-mail address, e.g. home and work will be the
most common, the easiest way is to subscribe both, and disable mail delivery
on one using the web interface. You can then post from either address, and
will receive a seperate subscription reminder notice for each.

> Oh and is there going to be an archive of the new list?

Yes. Continue using the old archive for now - all postings on the new list
will be added to it until the new archive is ready for use.

Cheers,
	Ralf.

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Looks like I made it worse... Hopefully last test to make sure duplicate
mails have stopped being sent.

Ralf.

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If anyone attending the British Open this weekend in Eastbourne could help
out Tom Quilter by giving him a lift back to either London or Cambridge,
that would be really kind.  I'm sending this on his behalf, so please, if
you can help this poor, penniless wretch reply to:
tq9047@bristol.ac.uk

Many thanks,

Rich
SB

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"Cross-posters should be strung up. Don't do it!"

Assuming the student egroup and Britdisc don't have exactly the same 
members/subscribers, I feel cross posting does serve a purpose and is 
inevitable.

At the same time, I do agree that on occasions cross posting is unnecessary.

 From my own experience, I occasionally post messages to both groups 
because I would like both communities of subscribers to have the 
opportunity to receive the information. Again, I am assuming the student 
egroup and Britdisc don't have exactly the same members/subscribers.

My email contributions are generally directed to people within the UK who 
share a passion for flying discs and flying disc sports. Naturally I want 
the emails to touch as many UK disc enthusiasts as possible, this is my 
reason for posting messages to both egroups.

I would suggest that if information is relevant to a student egroup and a 
general egroup (Britdisc) then it should be shared across both groups. I 
don't see any reason why those who only subscribe to one egroup should be 
denied the opportunity to receive information if it is relevant to them.

If the members/subscribers to both egroups are exactly the same however, I 
would suggest that is a separate issue.

Email is an unbelievable tool for supporting the disc community, however it 
has it's faults.
Generally speaking, for those who care about knowing what's going on, 
Britdisc and Student Ultimate provide an effective service to their 
respective communities.

Richard

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8-9 June, Aylesbury, Bucks
Disc Golf + pick up DDC, Ultimate and Goaltimate
www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen

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Suzanne Penfold has offered to look into hosting women's nationals in
Edinburgh on the 14th and 15th of September. Can a representative of each
women's team who might be interested contact Suzanne to let her know how
many teams to expect. There are cheap flights available from Luton, Gatwick
and Bristol and a fast train from London takes approx 4.5 hours.

Suzanne can be contacted at:

crumbs_chief@yahoo.com

Thanks,

Maria




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The pitches in Daventry, where last year's Nationals were held, are keen =
to host more Ultimate events.  But I am moving to Surrey,so can't really =
use them anymore.

So- any budding TD's out there in the midlands want to pick up this =
site?  They are pretty tired of the footballers tearing up thier =
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Ben,

Are you suggesting that if there is email information that is relevant to 
Britdisc and the Student-ultimate egroup then the student egroup should not 
be emailed?

Richard


At 12:19 31/05/02 +0100, Ben Ravilious wrote:
>I disagree - it defeats the point of having two separate lists.
>
>We do need to define the purpose of the two lists more clearly however.
>
>Ben
>
>
> > "Cross-posters should be strung up. Don't do it!"
> >
> > Assuming the student egroup and Britdisc don't have exactly the same
> > members/subscribers, I feel cross posting does serve a purpose and is
> > inevitable.
> >
> > At the same time, I do agree that on occasions cross posting is
>unnecessary.
> >
> >  From my own experience, I occasionally post messages to both groups
> > because I would like both communities of subscribers to have the
> > opportunity to receive the information. Again, I am assuming the student
> > egroup and Britdisc don't have exactly the same members/subscribers.
> >
> > My email contributions are generally directed to people within the UK who
> > share a passion for flying discs and flying disc sports. Naturally I want
> > the emails to touch as many UK disc enthusiasts as possible, this is my
> > reason for posting messages to both egroups.
> >
> > I would suggest that if information is relevant to a student egroup and a
> > general egroup (Britdisc) then it should be shared across both groups. I
> > don't see any reason why those who only subscribe to one egroup should be
> > denied the opportunity to receive information if it is relevant to them.
> >
> > If the members/subscribers to both egroups are exactly the same however, I
> > would suggest that is a separate issue.
> >
> > Email is an unbelievable tool for supporting the disc community, however
>it
> > has it's faults.
> > Generally speaking, for those who care about knowing what's going on,
> > Britdisc and Student Ultimate provide an effective service to their
> > respective communities.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > *Disc Sports Weekend
> > 8-9 June, Aylesbury, Bucks
> > Disc Golf + pick up DDC, Ultimate and Goaltimate
> > www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Richard,

Loving the cross post ;-)

Malcolm

Brunel STD
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--- Richard Sampson <richard@pootle.near.me.uk> wrote:
> Ben,
> 
> Are you suggesting that if there is email
> information that is relevant to 
> Britdisc and the Student-ultimate egroup then the
> student egroup should not 
> be emailed?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> At 12:19 31/05/02 +0100, Ben Ravilious wrote:
> >I disagree - it defeats the point of having two
> separate lists.
> >
> >We do need to define the purpose of the two lists
> more clearly however.
> >
> >Ben
> >
> >
> > > "Cross-posters should be strung up. Don't do
> it!"
> > >
> > > Assuming the student egroup and Britdisc don't
> have exactly the same
> > > members/subscribers, I feel cross posting does
> serve a purpose and is
> > > inevitable.
> > >
> > > At the same time, I do agree that on occasions
> cross posting is
> >unnecessary.
> > >
> > >  From my own experience, I occasionally post
> messages to both groups
> > > because I would like both communities of
> subscribers to have the
> > > opportunity to receive the information. Again, I
> am assuming the student
> > > egroup and Britdisc don't have exactly the same
> members/subscribers.
> > >
> > > My email contributions are generally directed to
> people within the UK who
> > > share a passion for flying discs and flying disc
> sports. Naturally I want
> > > the emails to touch as many UK disc enthusiasts
> as possible, this is my
> > > reason for posting messages to both egroups.
> > >
> > > I would suggest that if information is relevant
> to a student egroup and a
> > > general egroup (Britdisc) then it should be
> shared across both groups. I
> > > don't see any reason why those who only
> subscribe to one egroup should be
> > > denied the opportunity to receive information if
> it is relevant to them.
> > >
> > > If the members/subscribers to both egroups are
> exactly the same however, I
> > > would suggest that is a separate issue.
> > >
> > > Email is an unbelievable tool for supporting the
> disc community, however
> >it
> > > has it's faults.
> > > Generally speaking, for those who care about
> knowing what's going on,
> > > Britdisc and Student Ultimate provide an
> effective service to their
> > > respective communities.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > *Disc Sports Weekend
> > > 8-9 June, Aylesbury, Bucks
> > > Disc Golf + pick up DDC, Ultimate and Goaltimate
> > > www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> >
>
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> Service.
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Ben,

Never draw the line.  ;)

Everyone gets old, it's just disc golfers look forward to it more than most!

I'm hoping my disc golf  will peak in about 20 years, how about your Ultimate?

Just look at Del Robins, Charlie Mead and Sam Neilsen - still kicking ass 
at 60+.

Senegal for the World Cup.

Richard


At 16:22 31/05/02 +0100, you wrote:

>Are you suggesting that its acceptable to cross-post to Student Ultimate, 
>Britdisc, Junior list, Womens list, team lists, etc?
>
>Where do we draw the line?
>
>The Student Ultimate list was set up to take student-only content not to 
>take students off Britdisc.
>
>It depends on the overlap which at present is very high. Like I said, I 
>think we need to reconsider the purpose of the groups and publish some 
>posting guidelines.
>
>Anyway Richard, how many Student Ultimate players want to hear about an 
>old man's sport like Disc Golf? These folks still have their knee 
>ligaments!  ;-)
>
>Ben
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: Richard Sampson <richard@discology.co.uk>
>Reply-To: student-ultimate@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:08:45 +0100
>
> >Ben,
> >
> >Are you suggesting that if there is email information that is relevant to
> >Britdisc and the Student-ultimate egroup then the student egroup should not
> >be emailed?
> >
> >Richard
> >
> >
> >At 12:19 31/05/02 +0100, Ben Ravilious wrote:
> >>I disagree - it defeats the point of having two separate lists.
> >>
> >>We do need to define the purpose of the two lists more clearly however.
> >>
> >>Ben
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Cross-posters should be strung up. Don't do it!"
> >> >
> >> > Assuming the student egroup and Britdisc don't have exactly the same
> >> > members/subscribers, I feel cross posting does serve a purpose and is
> >> > inevitable.
> >> >
> >> > At the same time, I do agree that on occasions cross posting is
> >>unnecessary.
> >> >
> >> >  From my own experience, I occasionally post messages to both groups
> >> > because I would like both communities of subscribers to have the
> >> > opportunity to receive the information. Again, I am assuming the student
> >> > egroup and Britdisc don't have exactly the same members/subscribers.
> >> >
> >> > My email contributions are generally directed to people within the 
> UK who
> >> > share a passion for flying discs and flying disc sports. Naturally I 
> want
> >> > the emails to touch as many UK disc enthusiasts as possible, this is my
> >> > reason for posting messages to both egroups.
> >> >
> >> > I would suggest that if information is relevant to a student egroup 
> and a
> >> > general egroup (Britdisc) then it should be shared across both groups. I
> >> > don't see any reason why those who only subscribe to one egroup 
> should be
> >> > denied the opportunity to receive information if it is relevant to them.
> >> >
> >> > If the members/subscribers to both egroups are exactly the same 
> however, I
> >> > would suggest that is a separate issue.
> >> >
> >> > Email is an unbelievable tool for supporting the disc community, however
> >>it
> >> > has it's faults.
> >> > Generally speaking, for those who care about knowing what's going on,
> >> > Britdisc and Student Ultimate provide an effective service to their
> >> > respective communities.
> >> >
> >> > Richard
> >> >
> >> > *Disc Sports Weekend
> >> > 8-9 June, Aylesbury, Bucks
> >> > Disc Golf + pick up DDC, Ultimate and Goaltimate
> >> > www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >> 
> <<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
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> hoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the 
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I think the below email validates Ben's point about cross posting.

Why is a message about (mostly) Disc Golf being sent to the Student =
Ultimate?

Crispy
OW!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Richard Sampson=20
  To: rich@discgolf.co.uk=20
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:18 PM
  Subject: [student-ultimate] Next disc sports weekend


  Hi All,

  7 days til the England v Argentina game.
  8 days til the Green Park Open.
  Will it be Beckams foot that grabs the headlines or Duncan =
Hartshorne's=20
  (Duncan who!) arm.

  June 8/9 - Green Park Centre, nr Aylesbury, Bucks.

  Pick up ultimate, DDC and goaltimate.

  Bongos visited the Centre yesterday to redesign the disc golf course.
  There'll be 2 x 12 hole courses to play over the weekend (baskets).
  2 rounds of 24 on Saturday, 2 rounds of 24 on Sunday + 6 hole final.
  That's a lot of golf!

  One day players also welcomed.

  Bookings for on-site accommodation and lunch options need to be made =
by=20
  Wednesday 5th June, 12 midday.
  You can register to play by calling me or through the website.

  All event info at www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen

  Have a great weekend,

  Richard
  Bongos Disc Sports Club
  07989 406256







  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think the below email validates Ben's =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why is a message about (mostly) Disc =
Golf being=20
sent to the Student Ultimate?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Crispy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OW!</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Drichard@discology.co.uk =
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  Sampson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drich@discgolf.co.uk=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 31, 2002 4:18 =
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [student-ultimate] =
Next disc=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV><TT>Hi All,<BR><BR>7 days til the England v Argentina=20
  game.<BR>8 days til the Green Park Open.<BR>Will it be Beckams foot =
that grabs=20
  the headlines or Duncan Hartshorne's <BR>(Duncan who!) =
arm.<BR><BR>June 8/9 -=20
  Green Park Centre, nr Aylesbury, Bucks.<BR><BR>Pick up ultimate, DDC =
and=20
  goaltimate.<BR><BR>Bongos visited the Centre yesterday to redesign the =
disc=20
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weekend=20
  (baskets).<BR>2 rounds of 24 on Saturday, 2 rounds of 24 on Sunday + 6 =
hole=20
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  welcomed.<BR><BR>Bookings for on-site accommodation and lunch options =
need to=20
  be made by <BR>Wednesday 5th June, 12 midday.<BR>You can register to =
play by=20
  calling me or through the website.<BR><BR>All event info at=20
  www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen<BR><BR>Have a great=20
  weekend,<BR><BR>Richard<BR>Bongos Disc Sports Club<BR>07989=20
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Terms of=20
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Good to see we havn't lost our foreign subscibers who post useful disc
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Wasn't this new list supposed to stop this kind of thing?

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> Good to see we havn't lost our foreign subscibers who post useful disc
> information on a regular basis.

> Wasn't this new list supposed to stop this kind of thing?

It will when I stop allowing posts from non-subscribers. That won't happen
immediately, as there are still a lot of people using the old list (it was
only announced 1 day ago!)

I'll probably make the change in a week or two.

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Hi All,

7 days til the England v Argentina game.
8 days til the Green Park Open.
Will it be Beckams foot that grabs the headlines or Duncan Hartshorne's 
(Duncan who!) arm.

June 8/9 - Green Park Centre, nr Aylesbury, Bucks.

Pick up ultimate, DDC and goaltimate.

Bongos visited the Centre yesterday to redesign the disc golf course.
There'll be 2 x 12 hole courses to play over the weekend (baskets).
2 rounds of 24 on Saturday, 2 rounds of 24 on Sunday + 6 hole final.
That's a lot of golf!

One day players also welcomed.

Bookings for on-site accommodation and lunch options need to be made by 
Wednesday 5th June, 12 midday.
You can register to play by calling me or through the website.

All event info at www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen

Have a great weekend,

Richard
Bongos Disc Sports Club
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Deadline for entries is looming
Following cheques received


Clapham 1	
Chevron Action Flash    	145
TeamShark               	145
Fluid Druids            	145
Clapham 2               	
Un Poco Loco            	145
LeedsLeedsLeeds         	145
Smash & Grab            	145
Blue Arse Flies 1       	135
Fusion                  	135
Whey                    	135
Red 1                   	135
STD                     	
Headrush 1              	135
Martie McFly            	125
Hammerage 1             	135
Atomic Horse            	125
Hammerage 2             	125
Mud Culture             	125
Flyght Club 1           	125
Kamaya Maya             	125
Revolution              	
Slipdisc 1              	125
Blue Arse Flies 2       	125
Bad Habits              	125
Swivel                  	125
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North South Divide      	125
Trigger Happy           	125
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Rats of Nimh            	125
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Date:June 5,2002.
Email:eduadomello@mail-senders.net

Dear Sir,
I am Mr.Eduado De Mello, one of the Principal
Commanders of the Union for the Total Independence of
Angola,UNITA.Well needless telling a very long story
here for our story is indeed interwoven with the
history of the world and the liberation struggle in
the Southern African region of the African continent.

The bubble burst just a couple of weeks ago today when
my supreme commander, the late Dr.Jonas Savimbi was killed in an
encounter with the government forces of the MPLA
government of my country.The rest is now history but
suffice it to say that I am tired of the unfortunate
role of waging a war against my fatherland.

I have
therefore decided to pull out my troops from the bush
even if the other field commanders decide otherwise am
therefore poised to effect a new beginning in my life
and I have decided to make South Africa my new home at
least for the interim period until I am sufficiently
sure that I would be welcome home whole heartedly by
the MPLA government in Luanda the capital of Angola.
Needles to say I was the single most important
commander who was very close to the late supreme
commander; Dr.Jonas Savimbi.Indeed because I am a
brother to one of his wives,he confided in me a great
deal.

The result of such trust is my reason for
contacting you I was the commander whom he sent to
deposit the sum of Thirty two million USD ($32million)
with a security/finance company in South Africa.This
was immediately after the events of September 11,2001
in the United States of America.Indeed it had become
increasingly difficult to move large volumes of money
around the world particularly for a liberation
movement like UNITA hence the recourse to keeping the
money with the security company in South Africa. 


I have decided to inherit this money which was taken out
and deposited with the said security/finance company
as cash in Hundred dollar denominations.The money is
kept in my signature and would have been used in the
purchase of arms and ammunition for the purposes of
continuing the civil war in Angola.The supreme
commander is dead and as already stated I have decided
to quite the whole thing and this is without regard to
the fact that other commanders may wish to continue !

I want to cooperate with you in my decision to inherit
the $32million.I am still in the bush here but I have
been able to establish contact with the company in
South Africa to the effect that I would soon come to
take possession of the money that I kept with them.
Note also that I deposited the money as a foreign
national who is the head of a Mining company in Angola
(Never as a commander of UNITA). 

If you are able to cooperate with me over this am willing to give you
20%
of the $32million.Please come back to me through
email: eduadomello@mail-senders.net.The security/finance
company is standing by to receive my instructions on
this and I will link you up with them as soon as you
are ready to take possession of the $32million.
Finally you are to note that in you reply, you are to
state your residential or company address and if
possible send a copy of your international passport so
as to assure me that my money is safe in your hands.
Yours truly,
Eduado de Mello


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Okay, so far it seems like there a rumours of interest for this but so far
not many definates ans so to encourage you a reminder ;

Tour 33 1/3 6th - 7th July in Southampton - same pitches as the tour last
year - green and flat.
Entry only 100 quid and lots of things being planed for that
Teams so far
	Druids ( have said yes? Wayne? Anyone? Is this still true? )
	Chevy
	Kupa
	Skunks
	Skunks 2

Its going to be on of the last tournaments before the worlds so why not
make it a World Club warm up for those that are going??

Trig


Su Frisbee
338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, SO16 3BJ
02380 678866 / 07786 384009

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Hello

my name is Matthew Anderson (huggy) i play for the univeristy of bradford and 
Trigger Happy in the tours.  i was wondering if any one is going to be in and 
around derby in the summer hoilday say about june 15th onwards and fancied 
getting together for a throw some where in derby???

thank you all for your time see you all at tour 3.

Matt
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i am not happy i am trigger happy
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Hi all

Registration for Durham Hat 2002 remains open. If you
would like more information about a spirited hat
tournament in the sun (it can't keep raining!), with
standards ranging from 1 year students to top tour,
please email tournament@dufdisc.co.uk or press the red
button on an Aurora player at the Leeds coed this
weekend.

Hat tournaments are a great way to play with new
players, experience different tactics, and have a
great time at a more relaxed tournament. Highlights
will include late morning starts (even though Durham
is really easy to get to), student priced drinks, and
post-game Kabbaddi's.

Much appreciation if you could pass this on to club
mates, people solely on studentgroup, etc, as we have
the option of THREE pitches (!!!) and would love to
make full use of them. 

Entry fee a fiver, sleeping under a roof. As it should
be.

Looking forward to seeing you soon!

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Mixed Tour 2				
				
Team	Pool A	Pool B	Pool C	Pool D
1	Grazed'n'confused	Easy Tiger	Cyrille	Excess Bee
2	Hull Inbreds	Maiden Bungle	Chevron	BAF
3	YBK	Superfly	Salt'n'sauce	We've got guns
4	Aurora	YPMU	Venom	Red
				
Games 50mins long.  When hooter sounds finish the point.  If the scores are with in two points	 When hooter sounds finish the point. If the scores are within 2 points play 			
play a two point cap.  If one team is 3 or more points up the game is over.				
No half time or Time outs.				
				
		Saturday		
				
Time	Pitch 1	Pitch 2	Pitch 3	Pitch 4
				
9.30	A1 v A2	B1 v B2	C1 v C2	D1 v D2
				
10.30	A2 v A3	B2 v B3	C2 v C3	D2 v D3
				
11.30	A1 v A3	B1 v B3	C1 v C3	D1 v D3
				
12.30	A2 v A4	B2 v B4	C2 v C4	D2 v D4
				
13.30	A1 v A2	B1 v B2	C1 v C2	D1 v D2
				
14.30	A3 v A4	B3 v B4	C3 v C4	D3 v D4
				
15.30	5 v 10	6 v 9	7 v 12	8 v 11
				

				
		Sunday		
				
Time	Pitch 1	Pitch 2 	Pitch 3	Pitch 4
				
10.00	9 v 15	10 v 16	11 v 13	12 v 14
				
11.00	1 v 7	2 v 8	3 v 5	4 v 6
				
12.00	9 v 12	10 v 11	12 v 16	13 v 15
				
13.00	1 v 4	2 v 3	5 v 8	6 v 7
				
14.00	9 v 10	11 v 12	13 v 14	15 v 16
				
15.00		3 v 4	5 v 6	7 v 8
				
15.30	1 v 2  Final - 1 Hour Long with 2pt cap			




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I'm sure you've already noticed, or someone else has already pointed out, that as the Saturday schedule stands, the top teams in each pool play the second teams twice and don't play the fourth teams at all.

Also, and while I acknowledge that I am not a TD, is it really sensible to have the 'crunch' game in each pool first thing on Saturday - doesn't it make more sense to have it later in the day/last game of the pool?

Or is this where the error is (ie it should be 1v4 first game).

Clarification would be appreciated.

Laura


>  from:    leeds-ultimate@talk21.com
>  date:    Thu, 06 Jun 2002 13:22:52
>  to:      britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>  subject: Re: COED TII SCHEDULE
> 
> 
> Mixed Tour 2				
> 				
> Team	Pool A	Pool B	Pool C	Pool D
> 1	Grazed'n'confused	Easy Tiger	Cyrille	Excess Bee
> 2	Hull Inbreds	Maiden Bungle	Chevron	BAF
> 3	YBK	Superfly	Salt'n'sauce	We've got guns
> 4	Aurora	YPMU	Venom	Red
> 				
> Games 50mins long.  When hooter sounds finish the point.  If the scores are with in two points	 When hooter sounds finish the point. If the scores are within 2 points play 			
> play a two point cap.  If one team is 3 or more points up the game is over.				
> No half time or Time outs.				
> 				
> 		Saturday		
> 				
> Time	Pitch 1	Pitch 2	Pitch 3	Pitch 4
> 				
> 9.30	A1 v A2	B1 v B2	C1 v C2	D1 v D2
> 				
> 10.30	A2 v A3	B2 v B3	C2 v C3	D2 v D3
> 				
> 11.30	A1 v A3	B1 v B3	C1 v C3	D1 v D3
> 				
> 12.30	A2 v A4	B2 v B4	C2 v C4	D2 v D4
> 				
> 13.30	A1 v A2	B1 v B2	C1 v C2	D1 v D2
> 				
> 14.30	A3 v A4	B3 v B4	C3 v C4	D3 v D4
> 				
> 15.30	5 v 10	6 v 9	7 v 12	8 v 11
> 				
> 
> 				
> 		Sunday		
> 				
> Time	Pitch 1	Pitch 2 	Pitch 3	Pitch 4
> 				
> 10.00	9 v 15	10 v 16	11 v 13	12 v 14
> 				
> 11.00	1 v 7	2 v 8	3 v 5	4 v 6
> 				
> 12.00	9 v 12	10 v 11	12 v 16	13 v 15
> 				
> 13.00	1 v 4	2 v 3	5 v 8	6 v 7
> 				
> 14.00	9 v 10	11 v 12	13 v 14	15 v 16
> 				
> 15.00		3 v 4	5 v 6	7 v 8
> 				
> 15.30	1 v 2  Final - 1 Hour Long with 2pt cap			
> 
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Hello Britdisc,

If you're interested in playing four disc sports this coming weekend, all 
are welcome to come along to the Green Park Outdoor Activity Centre near 
Aylesbury, Bucks.

The event is organised by the Bongos Disc Sports Club and Discology.

There's a 12 basket golf course, 1 x ultimate pitch, 1 x goaltimate pitch 
and numerous DDC pitches.
All team sports are pick up.

Players can come along on Saturday or Sunday or both and it's £8 per day 
per person. There is a discount for any clubs attending.

Onsite camping available (£4 per night per person).

If you or your team are interested to attend, you will need to let me know 
before 11.50am on Friday 7th by phone - 07989 406256.
Please do not turn up without calling first.

Much more info, including directions is on the event website.
www.discgolf.co.uk/greenparkopen

Have a good weekend and hope you get some sunshine.

Richard
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Voting is now open for the UK Ultimate Awards 2002

Been inspired by someone's performances on the pitch this year? Watched
someone play some awesome, yet spirited Ultimate? Know a team that always
plays with outstanding spirit? Been to a tournament that you will never
forget?

Perhaps you know someone who deserves recognition for dedication to the
Ultimate community? Perhaps they have worked really hard to start a new
team, or given up way too much of their free time to coach?


All UK Ultimate members can vote in these awards.  All voting is done via
ukultimate.com:
http://www.ukultimate.com/vote/
Voting will close on the 14th September 2002 (one week after open Nationals)
and the results will be announced soon after.

Barry
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Wed, 27 Mar 2002, by UK Ultimate Administrator
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 Subject: UK Ultimate membership
>There are now just over 1000 players registered as members to UK
>Ultimate. If you've not yet sorted out your membership or paid your fee,
>this note is to remind you what you need to do!

How many now?

For the demographically inclined, any chance of some quick stats on the
following membership distributions:
        ~ by category
        ~ student / non-student
        ~ male / female

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Grazed'n'Confused have had a couple of last minute drop-outs due to
double-bookings and illnesses and require an extra female player.

Please call me on eiher of the two following numbers if you're
interested in playing for us this w/e
        mobile: 07970-903420
        office: 01737-273655

Regards
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Can all teams playing at Co-Ed Tour 2 this weekend make sure that you fill 
in a roster and give it to the TD.  I do not have a contact list for teams 
this weekend so I am not abnle to send every team a roster, but they will be 
distributed at the weekend.


Having finally received the rosters from Co-Ed Tour 1 (Nottingham) there 
were apparently no rosters submitted from the following teams:

Grazed and Confused
Lil Chef
Inbreds
Yorkie Bar Kids
Superfly
Flyght Club

Can these teams submit a roster for Nottingham to me asap.  You can submit 
it on paper to the TD at Boston Spa with your Tour 2 roster this weekend, or 
you can email it to me.

Remember that to play for a team at Co-Ed Nationals a player must have 
played for that team at at least one Co-Ed Tour event.  If someone played 
for your team at Co-Ed Tour 1 but not at any subsequent Co-Ed Tournaments, 
and you did not submit a roster for Co-Ed Tour 1, then that player will 
*not* be able to play for you at Co-Ed Nationals.

Also you will not score any 'new player' points if you have not submitted a 
roster.


It is not the fault of the above teams that this has come to my notice so 
late - but I really do need to get this off my to do list.  Can I ask the 
above teams to make sure that you have contacted me, in one way or another, 
by the end of next week at the very latest.

Si Barry
Co-Ed Tour Co-ordinator


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This is a cll to any one who would be interseted in
playing for DHB at the Southampton 33 1/3 tournement.
We will more thanlikely end up playing iron man so any
body who wishes to play and have a spoorkingly time
and to try out the stupid yet perhaps genius plays
that where formed in the pub, then you are more than
welcome to join us.

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This is a cll to any one who would be interseted in
playing for DHB at the Southampton 33 1/3 tournement.
We will more thanlikely end up playing iron man so any
body who wishes to play and have a fcuking good time
they are more than welcome to join us.

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All,

"Not the Worlds" - Reading's first ever tournament! Apologies for the lack 
of up-dates but hopefully this should make up for it:

3rd & 4th August at the Abbey RFC on the North edge of Reading. Venue is no 
more than 10 minutes drive from the town centre with bar, camping and 
pitches (enough room for 5) all on site. For the small price of £70 yes just 
£70! you get the following:

Free camping all weekend

Bar open for as long as I can persuade them - standard prices, but 
attempting to negotiate a discount.

DDC courts marked out - competition on saturday night and/or all weekend for 
as long as people keep going.

Local Budgens supermarket 2 minutes drive away, massive Tesco's in town 
centre.

I'm attempting to confirm the following:

Food on site (definitely), hopefully BBQ and salad bar on saturday night 
with tradtitional breakfast on Sunday at ~£10 per player on top of team 
entry.

Magician entertaining everyone on the saturday night. *** see below ***

Please direct all questions to this email address and all cheques to the 
following:

Andy Cox
1 Emery Down
Upper Basildon
Reading
Berks
RG8 8PA

Cheers everyone,

Angie
(SkuMy)

*** This guy isn't just a "let's see what animal I can make out of the 
balloons" type of magician (although he can do that side of things) - I saw 
him at a jubilee party on Tuesday and he is genuinely amazing. I swear to 
God a coin dropped from above our heads into my hand - to be believed he 
needs to be seen.

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From: "UK Ultimate" <info@ukultimate.com>
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Subject:  Monkey Foo's tournament                                
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 18:33:15 +0100
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From: Charlotte DISLE [mailto:charlottedisle@wanadoo.fr] 
Sent: 08 June 2002 15:21 
Subject: Monkey Foo's tournament 

Hi,
Could you please send the invitation below to all the UK teams?
Thanks a lot
Charlotte des Monkey Foo

Hi,
You have been invited to join the "Spank the monkey 2002" tournament in
Grenoble France, this September (14 – 15 septembre).
The player fee includes all, and all : chalet accomadation, all meals & 
drinks provided. Let’s read :
Some details :
30 ˆ for the team fee and 70 ˆ for player fee for a great tournament
with " all included " : 12 teams, welcome BBQ party on Friday evening, 2
night in lodging, 2 breakfast, 2 lunch, 1 dinner, DJ team master, drinks
and meals when ever you want, present and trophy, and of course Ultimate
(7 games and the final) and the sun, mountains, party, pleasure and so
on.
Some date :
- tournament takes places on 14-15 September
- confirmation as soon as possible
- payment of team fees before 20/06/2002
- payment of players fees before 20/07/2002 
There will be 12 teams in the tournament, open format, from Italy,
France, Spain, Germany & Switzerland. We really want that this
tournament remains international like the previous years, we thus
reserve places for the foreign teams;  there remain three places, so be
quick !
You can find our website, with links to previous tournament photos etc
here:
http://monkeyfoo.free.fr 
Don’t hesitate if you want more information
Please consult with your respective teams, and let us know as soon as
possible if you would like to participate or not.
Hope to see you  soon here in France!
Many thanks.

Charlotte des Monkey Foo




















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Subject: Rumour 2002
From: Adam Harras <adam@ummedia.com>
To: Rumour Group <adam@ummedia.com>, Jon Copeland <jon.copeland@bookham.com>,
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||||||||| TOURNAMENT ENTRY ||||||||||

Hi All, 

Sorry this has taken so long, I have no excuse other than I've been slack.

Over the last two years my philosophy for Rumour has been to break even on
the financial front and build a tournament that people love coming to.

This year is no different but to be honest in the last two years I have only
just managed to break even.

So hence I have two options:
Get shot of some of the extras that I think make the tournament.
Or 
Re-structure the pricing differently

I have chosen the second option as I think you like the extras. After all
you can get the basics from any tournament.

So down to business:

Team fee £150 

Player fee £5 

Based on ten players per team it would cost the individual £20 for the
weekend, which includes:

One FREE beer if you arrive Friday night before its all gone
Music in your ears all day Saturday and Sunday
Mini DDC tournament
Volley Hack comp on Saturday night as always
Dinner on the Saturday night
Retros the band are back for the entertainment (Rumour 2000)
Breakfast for the Sunday morning
Prizes and stuff 
Pitch side camping 
Shower facilities 
All day bar 

Not bad for £20 

Send your hard earned cash to (that's the team fee £150, player fee on the
day) 

Jon Copeland 
47 Radley Road 
Abingdon 
OX14 3PL 

Made payable to "J Copeland"


If you've in the first sixteen cheques to arrive then you're guarantee
entry!! 

||||||||| WEBSITE ADDRESS |||||||||||


Check out the Rumour website for location, dates, teams and schedules at the
address below:

http://www.ummedia.com/rumour


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To all that were at Boston Spa,

did anyone pick up:
- a white long-sleeve t-shirt with the no. 4 and Bremner and the back;
- a pair of Le Coq Sportif trakkies?

If you could let me know via mail or phone I'd be most grateful.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>To all that were at Boston Spa,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>did anyone pick up:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>- a white long-sleeve t-shirt with the no. 4 and =
Bremner and=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>- a pair of Le Coq Sportif trakkies?</FONT></DIV>
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NJ - can you point James in the right direction for his answers.

Thx
Wayne

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Thu, 6 Jun 2002, 23:05:39 
j <mailto:pol.kim@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>Query from newcomer: 
>why do people need UK Ultimate membership?
>What are the benefits?
>What's it cost?
>
>James

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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:11:49 +0000
Subject: Coed Tour 2 Boston Spa
From: Dora Kemp <dak12@cam.ac.uk>
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First of all let me say thank you to Arun and Co. for providing space for
the second Coed tour tournament this year. It is good to see certain people
willing to put in the effort to run tournaments.

I do feel, however, that it is necessary to mention that at this particular
tournament many things were lacking or inadequate that we should be able to
take for granted at tournaments these days particularly when we are paying
£100 per team. Having run tournaments myself in the past these things should
be considered as fundamental.

There were:
-NO cones on the first day and not enough cones on the second day;

-NO water butts at the side of the pitches;

-NO scoreboards;

-NO shelter at the pitches for that unpredictable northern weather :) (there
was a perfectly good iron frame available which if covered with a simple
tarpaulin would have provided a large decent shelter);

-NO hot showers (this may be forgiveable if some people had hot showers and
the water just ran out, but in fact they were freezing because the boiler
was not turned on and the organizers had to be reminded about it on the
second day as well!);

-the changing rooms were a building site and the ladies closed altogether so
the size of the changing rooms was halved (there were desks in the shower!);

-the toilets threatened to overflow;

-the endzones were too small and one pitch had a sand pit in the middle of
it.

There are bound to be a few unpredictable foul-ups at any tournament but in
this case there were just too many to go unmentioned. I assume that I am not
the only one to feel this way but if I am, my apologies. I hope for better
things at Tour 4.

Dora Kemp
Excess Bee





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Subject: RE: [BD] Coed Tour 2 Boston Spa
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Dora, et al,
I agree with what you say. There were several good things about the
tournament - particularly ample provision of food and drink pitchside. I
didn't have the breakfast, but I was told that that too was good value.

However, you're right, there were too many things missing. And as you say,
too many of them were not "luxuries", but fundamental requirements. I hope
your mail can generate some debate about this to prevent it happening again.
I have been talking to some people about this recently, and have a
suggestion to make to UKUltimate -

For tour events (open and coed), we should have a list of fundamental
requirements for a Tour event. This list shouldn't be too hard to compile.
Bids are then accepted as normal, and the tour calendar created. Entry
payment from teams is made DIRECT to UKUltimate. The tournament then takes
place. Payment to the tournament directors is then made after the event,
dependent on how many of the list of requirements are made. 

Two obvious advantages to the playing community are:
1. Teams always know who to send the money to. It's always going to the same
place. 
2. Tournament directors have a proper incentive to provide required
facilities. In the current situation, mistakes are made, but there is no
reason for the same mistakes not to be made again.

On the downside of this, some problems may be:
1. Added admin for UKUltimate
2. How do you quantify the "fines" for missing facilities? Are missing
scoreboards less of a problem than cold showers?
3. Could it possibly put off TDs from making bids for tour events? 

Personally, I don't think any of those disadvantages outweigh the benefits
to the UK playing community.

What do people think? Is this something we could implement for next year?

Andy

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similarly:

did anyone pick up a brown and beige 'no fear' hat?

Rodders.
- maiden bungle


> "avondale.action" wrote:
> 
> To all that were at Boston Spa,
> 
> did anyone pick up:
> - a white long-sleeve t-shirt with the no. 4 and Bremner and the back;
> - a pair of Le Coq Sportif trakkies?
> 
> If you could let me know via mail or phone I'd be most grateful.
> Thanks.
> 
> Hussey
> 07815 039501
> husshussey@yahoo.co.uk
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Someone asked for a debate...
and few are better at starting arguments than me!  so here goes.

I can add to comments regarding the 'essentials' by mentioning First Aid.

About a central UKUltimate tournament payment scheme.
I have heard much in the last two years about profiteering, and that aside,
two things worry me.

First, quantifying 'fines':  Many people felt that First Aid was unavailable
to them at a recent Nottingham Event.  There were First Aiders at both
events (I know 'cos I am one) and the hospital was within sight of the venue
(Sammy could have thrown a disc that far).  But still people didn't seem to
realise this.  Event Packs had this listed and it was discussed at the Capts
meeting.
Would there still have been a 'fine?'  Perspective is a difficult thing.

Second and possibly more important to the actual event.  For the events held
here in Nottingham, We had to pay the local council in advance for the hire
fee, extras for toilets all nite and pitching the favoured Marquee
(thankfully 'cos it was very wet), deposits for this, that and other stuff.
Prizes, gifts, parties etc... all need paying for in advance.  This also
guarantees for the organisers what will/will not be available.  We have
already started shelling out for the Copa Cabana & the Mixed Nationals
events, and lessons learnt already will be very useful, but in 5 years of
putting on events, there has only been the Indoor 'Femme Fest' that passed
without complaint.

That said, there is still scope for mishaps in the organisation whether the
TDs have access to the funds or not.  Whether they have their teams backing
or not.  Again this was made plain at our own event(s).

Personally, I think that there should be a checklist, it should be posted to
everyone interested in submitting a proposal.  More importantly it should be
checked through at some stage between organisers and the Director of Events.
It should also include the provision for First Aid (a H&S must), facilities,
grounds and space.  In fact, I would recommend that UKUltimate compose a
complete guide to hosting a UKU event thereby setting a standard which
everyone can adhere to and appreciate.

Event organisation is a learning process, and these discussions help that
learning process.
Nuff Sed

Sam





Sam

914 6254
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Cheques received from all teams listed below in order of finish at Exeter.
This is the basis of seedings for Tour 3. 

teams listed 36-41 didnt play at Exeter and will be seeded as appropriate.



ta

Stig

1	Clapham 1
2	Chevron Action Flash    
3	TeamShark               
4	Fluid Druids            
5	Clapham 2               
6	Un Poco Loco            
7	LeedsLeedsLeeds         
8	Smash & Grab            
9	Blue Arse Flies 1       
10	Fusion                  
11	Whey                    
12	Red 1                   
13	STD                     
14	Headrush 1              
15	Martie McFly            
16	Hammerage 1             
17	Atomic Horse            
18	Hammerage 2             
19	Mud Culture             
20	Flyght Club 1           
21	Kamaya Maya             
22	Slipdisc 1              
23	Blue Arse Flies 2       
24	Bad Habits              
25	Swivel                  
26	Skunks                  
27	North South Divide      
28	Trigger Happy           
29	Albatross               
30	Chuft                   
31	Butt                    
32	Red 2                   
33	JB7                     
34	SlipDisc 2              
35	Rats of Nimh            
	didn't play Exeter
36	Chevron Mixed
37	Strange Blue
38	Mud Culture 2
39	Shooting Project
40	Flight Club 2
41	GB Juniors

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Likewise, did anyone pick up a Platypus water bottle?
Ta,

Euan
 - Aurora

-------------------
> similarly:
> 
> did anyone pick up a brown and beige 'no fear' hat?
> 
> Rodders.
> - maiden bungle
> 
> 
> > "avondale.action" wrote:
> > 
> > To all that were at Boston Spa,
> > 
> > did anyone pick up:
> > - a white long-sleeve t-shirt with the no. 4 and Bremner and the
back;
> > - a pair of Le Coq Sportif trakkies?
> > 
> > If you could let me know via mail or phone I'd be most grateful.
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Hussey
> > 07815 039501
> > husshussey@yahoo.co.uk
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Sorry folks, desperate here...

Si/Claerwen, if you see this, I'm trying to let you know that you *don't*
have a league game today (Wednesday).

I'd text you, but my mobile was stolen recently.

If anyone is trying to call my mobile at the moment, don't trouble yourself
as some scumbag other than myself currently has it. If you need to speak to
me, call my home no: 020 8767 8243

Cheers

Paul

PS - does anyone on their London League team have email that they can check
regularly? Please let me know.


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From: "Rob Mitchell" <rob.mitchell@man.ac.uk>
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Fellow Ultimate Players,

As many of you will know, Sam Neilson is leaving the UK this week for
sunnier climes in New Zealand, a country with fresh air, flowing streams and
a male:female ratio of 1:1.03

He's done the math.

Sam started his frisbee career before anyone else reading this email was
born. He has a forensic memory for the early days of the sport, can clearly
recall playing before sidearms and stall-counts were invented, but has very
little idea what he was up to after 7.30pm at any domestic or international
tournament during the last 15 years.

For the last few years he's been plying his trade with Chevron and has
helped us to become the disgrace we so often are. For one brief, wonderful
period he was even a part of our coaching team where his major contributions
were: introducing a call which specifically meant "Sam's going to huck it!";
spending an entire afternoon in a park in Wolverhampton grading our throws
on a meticulously detailed sliding scale; and giving the most confusing
half-time talk we've ever witnessed involving some grass in a disc which,
apparently, the opposition wanted to take from us.

Sam's enthusiasm for and contribution to disc sports in this country has
been second to none. If we had an Ultimate Hall of Fame he would almost
certainly be the first player at the bar.

Chevron would just like to take the opportunity on behalf of the UK Ultimate
community he has so effectively terrorised for the last twenty years to say,
"Bon Voyage, Sam. Thanks for the memories."

See you in Hawaii mate.

Rob
Chevron

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kev and Rob have all the cones and scoreboards in exeter from Tour 2, but
only have 3 water carriers.

Where are the rest of them?

if you have any of the missing water carriers please tell me and bring them
to Banbury. If I cant track enough down I'll have to arrange alternatives. 

stig

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Fellow Ultimate Players,

As many of you will know, Sam Neilson is leaving the UK this week for
sunnier climes in New Zealand, a country with fresh air, flowing streams and
a male:female ratio of 1:1.03

He's done the math.

Sam started his frisbee career before anyone else reading this email was
born. He has a forensic memory for the early days of the sport, can clearly
recall playing before sidearms and stall-counts were invented, but has very
little idea what he was up to after 7.30pm at any domestic or international
tournament during the last 15 years.

For the last few years he's been plying his trade with Chevron and has
helped us to become the disgrace we so often are. For one brief, wonderful
period he was even a part of our coaching team where his major contributions
were: introducing a call which specifically meant "Sam's going to huck it!";
spending an entire afternoon in a park in Wolverhampton grading our throws
on a meticulously detailed sliding scale; and giving the most confusing
half-time talk we've ever witnessed involving some grass in a disc which,
apparently, the opposition wanted to take from us.

Sam's enthusiasm for and contribution to disc sports in this country has
been second to none. If we had an Ultimate Hall of Fame he would almost
certainly be the first player at the bar.

Chevron would just like to take the opportunity on behalf of the UK Ultimate
community he has so effectively terrorised for the last twenty years to say,
"Bon Voyage, Sam. Thanks for the memories."

See you in Hawaii mate.

Rob
Chevron

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Hi,
You have been invited to join the "Spank the monkey 2002" tournament in Grenoble France, this September (14 – 15 septembre).
The player fee includes all, and all : chalet accomadation, all meals & 
drinks provided. Let’s read :
Some details :
30 € for the team fee and 70 € for player fee for a great tournament with " all included " : 12 teams, welcome BBQ party on Friday evening, 2 night in lodging, 2 breakfast, 2 lunch, 1 dinner, DJ team master, drinks and meals when ever you want, present and trophy, and of course Ultimate (7 games and the final) and the sun, mountains, party, pleasure and so on.
Some date :
- tournament takes places on 14-15 September
- confirmation as soon as possible
- payment of team fees before 20/06/2002
- payment of players fees before 20/07/2002 
There will be 12 teams in the tournament, open format, from Italy, France, Spain, Germany & Switzerland. We really want that this tournament remains international like the previous years, we thus reserve places for the foreign teams;  there remain three places, so be quick !
You can find our website, with links to previous tournament photos etc here:
http://monkeyfoo.free.fr 
Don’t hesitate if you want more information
Please consult with your respective teams, and let us know as soon as possible if you would like to participate or not.
Hope to see you  soon here in France!
Many thanks.

Charlotte des Monkey Foo




















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Hey guys,

Just to confirm details for the Durham Hat THIS WEEKEND!!!


Tourney to be held at Maiden Castle Sports Centre, Durham
-Directions to follow: Watch this space....

Registration and teams to be arranged at the civilised hour of 10am
-Please have an idea of which category you fit into -

Beginner
Intermediate
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Pro

so as to get teams sorted as easily as possible.

Please email tournament@dufdisc.co.uk to register interest if you have
not already done so.

Cheers!


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Hello!

Just sending a final reminder to everyone who's still using the original
BritDisc.

The original mailing list will be closed down at the end of next week, so
anyone who has not transferred over to using the new list will stop
receiving BritDisc mail. They will be sent a final final reminder message
then, to explain that they are unsubscribed, but that's all.

This does not affect those using e-groups to receive the "britdisc daily" as
I am working with Lawrence to move all active subscribers over automatically
towards the middle of next week. However, if you want to change over
yourself in readiness, that's fine.

Remember also, that from the end of next week, you MUST use the new mailing
list address to post, i.e. use:

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The old address, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, will be set up to return an
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The original posting is below - this contains information about how to
subscribe to the new BritDisc, as well as how to unsubscribe from the old
BritDisc.

One last thing - I've noticed that at some point the old mailing list was
subscribed to by a mail archiving program. As this has shown up in search
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If you're interested, you can find these archives at
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http://www.mail-archive.com/britdisc%40csv.warwick.ac.uk/ for older
messages. Note, though, that these are not complete archives and I am still
working on "official" archives.

Cheers,
	Ralf.

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Dear all,

As many of you probably know, BritDisc has been running at the University of
Warwick, ever since I set it up in 1996. Officially, the list should have
been closed down when I ceased to be employed by the university, except for
the fact that Dave "Sammy" Neilson kindly agreed to look after it whilst I
went travelling in Australia.

The university asked me to move to list somewhere else now that Sammy is
leaving for New Zealand and no-one else employed by the University wants to
take it over. It is also true that there are a lot of "dead" e-mail
addresses subscribed to BritDisc which is creating somewhat of an
administrative chaos.

If you have been following the sporadic discussions on BritDisc about the
mailing list, you will see that there has been general uncertainty about
where to move the list as well as a number of complaints about missing
features, such as message digests.

Since then, I have started a project which required setting up permanent a
internet connection, and so I have full access to a machine which is able to
host britdisc adequately. I have taken the opportunity to migrate to newer
mailing list software that should be able to clean itself of "dead"
addresses more easily, and so I have started to move BritDisc onto the new
server (hence the occasional test messages you may have seen).

Features of the new list
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If you prefer to receive BritDisc in digest form, this is now possible.
People using the e-groups digest facility should move over to using this
digest system if they wish to be able to post messages.

Posting to the new mailing list will be restricted to subscribers only.
Initially, this will not be enforced to ease migration, but this will be
enforced after the migration period.

There is a web interface available to manage your account. You can modify
your settings, for instance whether you receive a digest instead of
individual messages, and also temporarily suspend the account, for instance
whilst on holiday.

You will receive a monthly password reminder, which contains information
about how to unsubscribe and how to access the archive pages, etc.

How to use the new list
-----------------------

To subscribe to the list, you can either send a mail to
britdisc-request@near.me.uk with the subject "subscribe" or by clicking
here:
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Alternatively, you may prefer to subscribe from the web interface by
clicking here:
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To post to the list, please use the NEW address britdisc@near.me.uk

It is suggested that you also unsubscribe yourself from the old list - to do
that send a mail to majordomo@csv.warwick.ac.uk with the line "unsubscribe
britdisc" in the message body. I will also be periodically removing new
subscribers from the old list.

After a transitional period, anyone who is still subscribed to the old list
will be unsubscribed from britdisc completely. I am preferring an "opt-in"
to the new list, as there are many, many dead addresses subscribed.

The BritDisc archive will be moved to a new home, and will also be made
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If you currently use a mail filter, you are advised to change your rules to
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Thanks for your attention, and finally thanks to Sammy for looking after the
list for a lot longer than I originally persuaded him to!

Cheers,
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Dear Britdisc,

> Due to lack of enough interest in Brummii Five-O this August, we are in
> the unfortunate position of having to cancel the tournament for this year.
> Hopefully we can get the venue again next year and arrange something then,
> as we love to have frisbee action going on in the second city. (Look out
> for us again indoors in 2003!) I have no idea which teams sent us cheques,
> because they are all with Simon who is in hospital, but we will get them
> back to you in the next week or so when Simon is back out.
> 
> I would like to apologise to all those teams who wanted to take part, and
> thank you very much for your interest in the event. We are all a bit
> disappointed that we couldn't get more teams, but I think the Ultimate
> calendar is a little bit full around August. I do hope that everyone can
> manage a quick visit to the website, if only to have a go at the wonderful
> "Dress John" feature created by our web-meister Phil.
> (http://fluidltd.co.uk/brummiefive-0/). I would also like to encourage
> everyone to support Sport Relief if they can, as this was the charity that
> the tournament was going to contribute towards.
> 
> Thank you for your time, and see you all at Tour 3.
> 
> ___________________________________
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Dear Britdisc,</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Due to lack of =
enough interest in Brummii Five-O this August, we are in the =
unfortunate position of having to cancel the tournament for this year. =
Hopefully we can get the venue again next year and arrange something =
then, as we love to have frisbee action going on in the second city. =
(Look out for us again indoors in 2003!) I have no idea which teams =
sent us cheques, because they are all with Simon who is in hospital, =
but we will get them back to you in the next week or so when Simon is =
back out.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I would like to =
apologise to all those teams who wanted to take part, and thank you =
very much for your interest in the event. We are all a bit disappointed =
that we couldn't get more teams, but I think the Ultimate calendar is a =
little bit full around August. I do hope that everyone can manage a =
quick visit to the website, if only to have a go at the wonderful =
&quot;Dress John&quot; feature created by our web-meister Phil. =
(</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Courier New"><A =
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Have you heard?

The most fun to be had this summer (especially if you can't get to Hawaii)
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Hello Britdiscers,

 

GOOD NEWS - BLOCK STACK PRODUCTIONS GO TO TOUR 3

 

You may have heard Stig mention it and you may have heard me talking about it. Well the time has come to take what we do outdoors and see how we fair.

 

Block Stack have made three videos of indoor tournaments in 2001 which were very successful. Technically they were fairly simple but they showed the sport in an excellent light and proved what could be done on a very limited budget.

 

This time we are going to be a bit more ambitious. Here's the plan. The Block Stack cameras will be based on one pitch. We'll call this the feature pitch. This will include a 6-8m camera tower pitch side and a 15m mobile platform for one of the end zones. There will also be a third camera at ground level for close ups and action shots. This is all cut together live. If you play a game on the feature pitch you will be able to buy a copy of the game for Â£15. 

 

We will also have two roving cameras capturing action from all the other games and also the atmosphere of a big Ultimate tournament. We will then cut together a 75-90 min highlight video similar to the UPA video that some of you may have seen. This will include the best bits from the feature pitch including final highlights as well and action from the rest of the tournament. This video will cost Â£12.50 or Â£10 if you preorder your copy on the weekend.

 

If you want to buy your game from the feature pitch and the highlight video, this will be available for Â£20. We aim to be value for money.

 

Thatâ€™s what we are doing, here's where we need your help.

 

TEAM SHEETS

To help with commentary, we need team sheets for each team. Email your team sheet to tom@block-stack.co.uk before Wednesday and I'll do my best to learn names. Team sheets should include:

Some Information about the team the more the better,

Full Player name spelt correctly (they will be used for captions)

Nick name

Shirt number

Distinctive physical features (hair colour, glasses, knee or elbow supports)

 

The more information you can give the more personal the video will be to your team.

 

CAMERAS and CAMERAMEN/WOMEN

Do you have a Digital Video Camera. Can you get access to university video cameras etc. If you do and are prepared to lend it to us for the weekend we will give you a free copy of the video and our eternal gratitude and friendship. 

If you are unable to play through injury or other reasons, but still intend to be at tour three and would like to volunteer for a few games worth of camera duties, please drop me a line.

 

ORIGINAL MUSIC

In order to make the video more engaging we hope to use music. However to pay for the copyright of major artists costs too much money, so we are again, asking for your help. If you have recorded some music as part of a band or on your own computer we'd love to use it as part of the video. Drop me a line if you are interested.

 

If you have any questions or would like to offer help of any form then please drop me a line or give me a call 07753 827702.

 

See you in Banbury

 

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Sheffield Beginners Tournement 2002

This is a e-mail to inform you that Sheffield Beginners will be held 
again this year on the last weekend in October 26th/27th 2002. The 
tournement will be held at Concord Sports Centre as per usual and 
we will be hosting 16 beginners teams and 8 experienced teams.

The cost per team will be £90, accommodation will be provided 
and there will be a big party Saturday night. I will not be taking 
bookings and cheques till the start of August, at which stage i will 
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Until August, hope everyone has a great summer!

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Don't worry people, <b><i>you will be able to watch the England
match</i></b> this weekend.
<p>Now that's out of the way, here are some directions:
<p>We are at the Maiden Castle Sports Centre on the A177 just outside of
Durham.
<p><b>By car:</b>
<br>From the A1M, take junction 61, A177 Peterlee (NOT J62 A690 to Durham)
and follow the A177 signposted to Bowburn and Peterlee. Once on the A177
stay on this road for about 3 miles, passing through Bowburn and Shincliffe.
We are on the right hand side opposite Houghall College.
<p><b>From the train station:</b>
<p>By Foot:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Walk out of the railway station and start
walking down the bank until you see a footpath on the left signposted to
City centre. Walk down the hill until you come to the main road and follow
the road across the bridge past Riverside house. Once across the bridge
follow the footpath up onto the flyover and turn right and walk up into
the Market Square. Follow the road left down Saddler Street and then left
again down and across Elvet Bridge. Once across the bridge turn right and
follow the road past Dunelm house and keep left and follow the road up
Hallgarth Street. When you come to a roundabout continue straight across
and down the bank (it's signposted A177 to Bowburn) and we are on the left-hand
side about &frac12; mile down the road.&nbsp; It is about a 30-40 minute
walk.
<p>By Bus:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Take any of these - 13, 20, 56, 57, 235.
<p>By Taxi:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You can take a taxi from the bus or train
station. Cost approximately &pound;3.50-&pound;4.00.
<br>&nbsp;
<p>There is a map of the area <a href="http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=427500&Y=541500&A=Y&Z=3">here</a>.&nbsp;
Ignore the arrow, and the bit that says '<font face="Old English Text MT"><font size=-1>Maiden
Castle</font></font>.'&nbsp; The sports centre is the little building opposite
Houghall College, in the middle right square, and the train station is
the purple circle in the top left square.
<p>I hope this all makes sense.
<p>See you at 10am Saturday,
<p>Euan.
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Hello Everyone,

With one month to go, people are starting to
enquire about Mixed Tour III, so I guess it is time to
let everyone know what is going on. The tournament is
the 13/14th of July. It is being hosted at the same
venue as last year's Mixed Nationals, Titchfield,
which is between Portsmouth and Southampton just off
the M27.

As people will remember from last year the pitches are
good and flat and there will be food available on
site. For those on a budget there is a campsite close
by that is basic, but charges just a couple of pounds
per person, so is very reasonable. For those who
stayed in the Posthouse last year, they know that it
was well worth it for the use of the Jacuzzi, sauna,
pool and a huge spread for breakfast. Once again I
have managed to negotiate a reduced rate for people
attending the tournament. The rate is seventy pounds
per room. To book phone 0870 400 9028 and quote
reference 10640. Alternative accommodation options are
listed at the end of this email.

Entry will be on a first-come-first served basis.
Cheques for one hundred pounds should me made payable
to 'More Than Just A Tournament'. Cheques should
arrive no later than Friday 5th of July. There is only
space for sixteen teams, so given the popularity of
the last two tournaments it would be advisable to send
them as soon as possible. Please send the cheques to:
Si Weeks, 60 Campden Road, Lloyd Park, South Croydon,
CR2 3EP.

Directions will be posted nearer the date. If you have

any other queries, please call me on 07815 126573, as 
my access to email is very limited.
Thanks,

Si Weeks

Alternative Accommodation:

Westcote B&B, 0.5 miles form venue, double £45-50, 4
rooms, 01329 846297

Little Park Lodge, 1.5 miles from venue, double £42, 2
rooms, 01489 600500

Catisfield Cottage Guest House, 1.5 miles from venue,
double £35-£52, 7 rooms, 01329 843301

Great Posbrook Farm House, 2 miles from venue, double
£45-49, 3 rooms, 01329 847390

Bembridge House, 2.5 miles from venue, double £45-53,
3 rooms, 01329 317050

St Annes House, 2.5 miles from venue, double £30, 1
room, 01329 235090

Nutcracker House, 3 miles from venue, double £52, 2
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Hi Sion and everyone,

Thanks for the interest from those who've contacted me, the answers should 
all be below:

Not The Worlds is a mixed tournament with a 5-2 male/female requirment on 
pitch. There have been some teams asking for this to change so please offer 
your views but I, and currently the majority, would like to keep it as it 
is.

We have a small venue with everything you need on site - pitches, showers*, 
food and of course a fully stocked bar! The cost is a weeny little £70 for 
your team and a BBQ and pasta buffet dinner with full breakfast for ~£10 per 
head on sat evening/sun morning.

The venue is about 10 minutes drive from Reading town centre (under a tenner 
for a cab from Reading station) and has a (local) Budgens supermarket about 
2 minutes drive away and Tescos, Waitrose etc are all in the town centre.

Extras that are being sorted as we speak are:
-DDC pitches and discs
-Magician entertaining y'all on sat evening.
-DJ providing tunes for your leisure
-Massage tent
-Anything else that gets suggested that I can sort out in time

Please feel free to ask me any questions you want but I may take a while to 
respond being on holiday as of tomorrow morning! I will be checking my email 
though so don't hesitate.

Cheers,

Angie

*The only slight glitch is that there is only one shower room. However, 
there will be a schedule put in place along the lines of 1 hour boys, 1/2 
hour anyone, 1 hour girls - again please offer your suggestions!. There will 
be someone on the door, and I've been told that they put 120 rugby players 
through inside 30 minutes.

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Hi,

I just wondered if I could get some more details on the Not the Worlds 
tournament.  We were lined up to play at Brummii 5-0, but since it has been 
cancelled, we'd like to play somewhere else.

I have heard it is a mixed tournament, which is good since we have ladees on 
our team, but are there minimum numbers on the number we have to have on at 
any one time?

Cheers,

Brummie
Purple Haze

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If anyone else is interested, I got an answer to my query about UK
Ultimate demographics...

Wayne

  ------- Forwarded message follows -------
UK Ultimate Administrator <mailto:admin@ukultimate.com> wrote:
>Wayne
>
>Total UKU Registered players :1257 
>
>Full members: 449  
>Students: 266
>First & therefore free 'E' year, so newish players: 469
>Just a tad interested/ just registering: 57
>Overseas: 16
>
>Total women players: 266
>Players older than you: 154
>
>Cheers!
>
>NJ
>UK Ultimate admin
>
>email: admin@ukultimate .com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]
>On Behalf Of Wayne Retter
>Sent: 06 June 2002 19:37
>To: BritDisc
>Subject: [BD] Re: UK Ultimate membership
>
>Wed, 27 Mar 2002, by UK Ultimate Administrator
><mailto:admin@ukultimate.com>;
> Subject: UK Ultimate membership
>>There are now just over 1000 players registered as members to UK
>>Ultimate. If you've not yet sorted out your membership or paid your
>fee,
>>this note is to remind you what you need to do!
>
>How many now?
>
>For the demographically inclined, any chance of some quick stats on the
>following membership distributions:
>        ~ by category
>        ~ student / non-student
>        ~ male / female
>
>Cheers
>Wayne

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Here are details to help you on your arrival. Yellow Site maps will be
posted up everywhere to help you around this quite large site. Banbury
School is undergoing a substantial building project, so access to the site
is a little awkward, but shouldn't pose any problems.

We will be on the gate to meet you from about 6pm. 

ON ARRIVAL
If you want beer
There is little going on, on site, on Friday Night. You have several
options:
1.	10 min walk = Easington pub. Big. Will be busy, beer garden,
conservatory.
2.	 5 min walk across fields = Easington Sports Clubhouse. Small bar
next to field 1
3.	5 min drive, or 30min walk into town

Easington Pub: Up Ruskin Road. Turn left into Springfield Avenue. To the
end. Turn left. Pub on left
Easington Sports Clubhouse: On site. Highlighted on Site Map. 

If you want food when you arrive
There are plenty of take outs in town: Try these numbers:
Domino Pizza: 			01295 252566
Wai Lam House Chinese/Chippy: 	01295 259269
Plazza Balti			01295 272100/272626
Surma Balti			01295 277778/276006

Camping
Camping area is situated next to Sportshall. NO FIRES PLEASE.

Showers/Toilets/Changing
There are several toilet / shower / changing facilities

				
Sportshall	24 hours	Male+Female	Toilets		Showers
Stanbridge Gym	9 - 6		Male+Female 	Toilets		Showers
Wykham 		9 - 6		Male only	Toilets		Showers
Easington Clubhouse 9 - 11	Male+Female	Toilets		Showers

First Aid / Physio / Masseurs / Aromatherapy
All will be situated at the marquee near the entrance to the fields/buttery.
In the instance of poor weather, masseurs may move to the buttery. All of
these services will be available at the marquee from 9-6 both days

Rubbish
There should be black plastic bags everywhere. Please put your rubbish in
the bags. 

Smoking
Smoking is banned on the Banbury School site. The site manager will be
visiting the tournament and if he sees anyone smoking he will accompany the
smoker from the site. Fields 1-5 are not Banbury school's fields.

Security	
Your camping is 2 minutes walk away from the fields so to ensure your stuff
is safe during the day we have hired a security guard.

Food / Refreshments
Top quality food is available in the buttery ALL DAY. 

BUTTERY = MEALS
Friday 		No food 
Saturday	Breakfast 			from 8am
		Lunch	/ snacks		all day
		Dinner				from 5pm - 9pm
Sunday		Breakfast 			from 8am
		Lunch	/ snacks		all day

MARQUEE = SNACKS
Donuts and drinks				all day

MARQUEE = BAR
Friday 						No Bar
Saturday					11am -11pm
Sunday						11am - 5pm

EASINGTON CLUBHOUSE = Snacks and small bar 	
Friday						8pm -11pm
Saturday 					11am -11pm
Sunday						11am - 6pm


BAR and MUSIC on fields Saturday night


STAFF
TD 				Stig
Timekeeping/scores	        NJ, Rachel, Dan
Rubbish/water	                Jim
Facilities			Stig, Jen
Nurse				Anna
Physio			        Sarah 
Masseurs			Sheena, + 3
Aromathrapist		        Sheena


Other events on site
There will be kids/kids' parents onsite on Saturday morning attending a
music school in Wykham hall. 

 
Captains Meeting
Captains meeting will commence at 08:45 in the Buttery. (Follow signs for
6th Form Centre Reception)

Tournament
42 teams, on 14 pitches. Final on Pitch 1

Schedule
First games will commence at 9 am. 

Rosters
Every team will be required to submit its roster for this event. All players
should be registered with UKU. Full and student members should be fully paid
up. Team captains will be required to submit player names and shirt numbers
at the Captains meeting. Captains; make sure you are armed with names, and
shirt numbers.

That should be enough for all of you until captains meeting. 

see you there

Stig
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Is that mixed showers at Reading…  mmmmm….

I may have to be there!

can we make it a three:one ratio?  the odds will be
better


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I regret to inform you that Uriel has decided to cancel the Exeter Hat, =
which was sheduled for 29th/30th June 2002.

This is because many of Uriel cannot make the tournament and we have not =
had enough interest in it to make it feasible.

May I apologise to anyone who was looking forward to the tournament and =
especially to anyone who had made any sacrifices in order to attend.=20


Robin Karfoot
Uriel


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Hi Britdisc,

Results and tournament review from last weekend's disc golf tournament at 
the Green Park Centre, Aylesbury have been published and archived at 
http://www.obmegazine.com/resultsgreenparkopen2002.htm

The next disc golf event is this coming weekend (22/23) at Quarry Park, 
near Leamington Spa.

Derek Robins is the TD and he promises a great weekend. All players welcome.

Enquiries to Derek - mailto:D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk  tel 01926864136

See ya.

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Can anybody who was at BritOpen help me fill in the blanks? The organisers
were amazing up until the last minute, when they lost the list of results
during the final! (anybody could have made that mistake =AD couldn=B9t they
Hughes?)
Thanks
Jack

BritOpen 2002 Results:

Spirit=20
Southern Comfort Combined

Final MVP=20
Graham - UTI=20

Tournament MSP=20
Adam Keys - Pookahs

Mixed Division=20
1 Superfly
2 Cyrille
3 Zoo
4
5
6
7

Open Division=20
1 UTI
2 Fluid Druids
3 Doughboy
4 TeamShark
5 DSM
6 Pookahs
7 LeedsLeedsLeeds
8 Smash & Grab
9 Fever=20
10
11
12
13
14
15
16

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Hello Jack,

Sadly, on the results front, we failed miserably. I think I'm right in
saying that we were only given 6 game results throughout the three days and
that the teams just seemed to know how it worked and who they were to play
next. We also lost the vital list cobbled together by asking around during
the final, which told us the final positions. Therefore, the results on the
website are all we know of.

Cheers
Nolan






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the list of results during the final! (anybody could have made that mistake =
&#8211; couldn&#8217;t they Hughes?)<BR>
Thanks<BR>
Jack<BR>
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Spirit <BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Southern Comfort Combined <BR>
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Adam Keys - Pookahs<BR>
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2 Cyrille<BR>
3 Zoo<BR>
4<BR>
5<BR>
6<BR>
7<BR>
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1 UTI<BR>
2 Fluid Druids<BR>
3 Doughboy<BR>
4 TeamShark<BR>
5 DSM<BR>
6 Pookahs<BR>
7 LeedsLeedsLeeds<BR>
8 Smash &amp; Grab<BR>
9 Fever <BR>
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11<BR>
12<BR>
13<BR>
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15<BR>
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</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Monaco"><TT>Hello Jack,<BR>
<BR>
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saying that we were only given 6 game results throughout the three days and=
<BR>
that the teams just seemed to know how it worked and who they were to play<=
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next. We also lost the vital list cobbled together by asking around during<=
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the final, which told us the final positions. Therefore, the results on the=
<BR>
website are all we know of.<BR>
<BR>
Cheers<BR>
Nolan<BR>
<BR>
</TT></FONT><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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Dear all,

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wasn't sure who to email so thought i would just reply to the last brit 
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It is piper_lucifer24@hotmail.com

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sorry BD, but if Colin Eagles is out there please get in touch...or if anyone has his email please let me know.

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Required : Players of North, South or Central American extraction

To play ONE tournament at a prestigious UK event as an All American Allstars
Team Easrly August.

Please contact the email address or phone number listed below, if
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Thanks

Sam

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Sorry to bore those of you who DO read your emails.

repetition of directions, and details. Games will finish @5

And you WILL have food and bar onsite when you arrive on Friday night.

Sorry. 
I've had a bad day.

Stig


TOUR 3
Banbury
22/23 June 2002

Jim and Paul "Stig" Unwin will host Tour 3 at Banbury School, Banbury, Oxon
on the weekend of the 22/23rd June. The deadline for all entrants is Friday
7th June. (you have 3 weeks)

Last year we held Tour 2 at a different venue: Bodicote park, unfortunately,
the rugby club didnt pay their Business rates so they have been taken to the
cleaners by the local council. Place is not available for hire this year. So
we are using an alternative site very close by, just 2 miles closer to
Banbury town centre.

Highlights of this years tournament:

> A team of masseurs, aromatherapist, physiotherapist.

> free apples, oranges, bananas, and water melons.

> Games on Pitch 1 filmed by Block Stack, who will have 3 cameras on hand.

> 2 Bars on site. Magistrates should grant extension as result of World Cup
match on Saturday night

> On site camping.

> Ice Cream van.

> World Cup Quarter Final (Could feature England) televised in Clubhouse.

> Jim is still working on the Cheerleaders, Hot-tubs, Limos and video
replays for Wayne.

NUMBER OF TEAMS: We hope to accommodate however many teams want to play.
Obvious preference for divisibility by 4. We have 16 pitches.

ENTRY FEE
Seeds 1-8 £145
Seeds 9-16 £135
Seeds 17+ and Womens teams £125

Send cheque payable to Paul Unwin to:
UKU Tour 3, 44 Swinegate, Grantham, Lincs, NG31 6RL

with the following details:
YOUR NAME:
TEAM NAME:
ADDRESS:
TEL NO:
MOBILE NO:
E-MAIL ADDRESS:

I shall not accept cheques given to me in person.

Lowlights

CAR PARKING - Ample car parking available, central to all fields.

CAMPING - On site camping available behind sports hall at end of site.
Changing rooms, 24hr toilet facilities @ sportshall. All available Friday
night.

CHANGING/SHOWERS - 4 separate changing and showering areas.  I aint gonna
make any promises about the showers. Cold showers are good for you, they
help your body recuperate from the rigors of playing ultimate. Dont blame
the shower temperature for size of your weeners.

FOOD - Good quality food supplied in refectory/buttery. Drinks, fruit and
donuts available on fields.

DIRECTIONS TO BANBURY SCHOOL:
M40 to Banbury. Head for Banbury Town Centre, Follow signs for Horton
General Hospital. When directly outside the hospital turn up Horton View. Go
straight over Springfield Avenue into Ruskin Road and Banbury School.

Use this link to get you to the school:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=OX169HY
arrow points at the fields

Use this link when you arrive:
http://www.banbury.oxon.sch.uk/Contacts/Sitemap.html

Camping is at far end of the site. (extreme left of site map) fields are
behind Wykham, Broughton and Stanbridge.

ACCOMMODATION:
If you cant face camping
here is a list of BnBs/hotels close by:

Amberley Guest House 151 Middleton Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 255797
Ashley Guest House 58 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250539
Avonlea Guest House 41 Southam Road Banbury		Tel 01295 267837
Banbury Cross Bed and Breakfast 1 Brougton Rd Banbury	Tel 01295 266048
Belmont Guest House 34 Crouch Street Banbury 		Tel 01295 262308
Calthorpe Lodge Guest House 4 Calthorpe St Banbury 	Tel 01295 252325
Cotefield B & B 1 Cotefield Cottages Bodicote Banbury	Tel 01295 264977
Fairlawns Guest House 60 Oxford Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262461
Fair View Lodge Guest Hse 1 Fairview Road Banbury	Tel 01295 262181
Fernliegh Guest House 67 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 250853
Prospect Guest House 70 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 268749
The Roebuck Inn Stratford Road  Drayton Banbury		Tel 01295 730542
Treetops Guest House 28 Dashwood Road Banbury 		Tel 01295 254444
Virginia House B&B 1 High Street Bloxham Banbury	Tel 01295 720596
Winstons Guest House 65 Oxford Road Banbury 	Tel 01295 270790


Hotels and Inns

The Cartwright arms Croughton Road Aynho Banbury	Tel 01869 811111
Cromwell Lodge Hotel 9-11 North Bar Banbury		Tel 01295 259781
Easington House Hotel 50 Oxford Road Banbury		Tel 01295 270181
The Deddington Arms HorsefAIr Deddington			Tel 01869
338364
Holcombe Hotel High Street Deddington			Tel 01869 338274
Horse and Groom Milcombe Banbury			Tel 01295 720471
Lismore Hotel 61 Oxford Road Banbury			Tel 01295 267661
The Marlborough Arms 1a Gatteridge St Banbury 		Tel 01295 258258
The Lampet Arms Main St Tadmarton Banbury		Tel 01295 780070
The Red Lion at Adderbury, Adderbury Banbury	Tel 01295 810269
The Swan Inn  3 South Bar Banbury				Tel 01295
262900


If you need either of us we can be contacted via:

E-mail address: punwin@grantham.ac.uk (for all queries)
phone: 01476 577993 (Stigs home phone)
mobile: 07790 187203 (nj's mobile phone.)

See you all at Tour 2.

Stig




> Here are details to help you on your arrival. Yellow Site maps will be
> posted up everywhere to help you around this quite large site. Banbury
> School is undergoing a substantial building project, so access to the site
> is a little awkward, but shouldn't pose any problems.
> 
> We will be on the gate to meet you from about 6pm. 
> 
> ON ARRIVAL
> If you want beer
> There is little going on, on site, on Friday Night. You have several
> options:
> 1.	10 min walk = Easington pub. Big. Will be busy, beer garden,
> conservatory.
> 2.	 5 min walk across fields = Easington Sports Clubhouse. Small bar
> next to field 1
> 3.	5 min drive, or 30min walk into town
> 
> Easington Pub: Up Ruskin Road. Turn left into Springfield Avenue. To the
> end. Turn left. Pub on left
> Easington Sports Clubhouse: On site. Highlighted on Site Map. 
> 
> If you want food when you arrive
> There are plenty of take outs in town: Try these numbers:
> Domino Pizza: 			01295 252566
> Wai Lam House Chinese/Chippy: 	01295 259269
> Plazza Balti			01295 272100/272626
> Surma Balti			01295 277778/276006
> 
> Camping
> Camping area is situated next to Sportshall. NO FIRES PLEASE.
> 
> Showers/Toilets/Changing
> There are several toilet / shower / changing facilities
> 
> 				
> Sportshall	24 hours	Male Female	Toilets		Showers
> Stanbridge Gym	9 - 6		Male Female 	Toilets
Showers
> Wykham 		9 - 6		Male only	Toilets
Showers
> Easington Clubhouse 9 - 11	Male Female	Toilets		Showers
> 
> First Aid / Physio / Masseurs / Aromatherapy
> All will be situated at the marquee near the entrance to the
fields/buttery.
> In the instance of poor weather, masseurs may move to the buttery. All of
> these services will be available at the marquee from 9-6 both days
> 
> Rubbish
> There should be black plastic bags everywhere. Please put your rubbish in
> the bags. 
> 
> Smoking
> Smoking is banned on the Banbury School site. The site manager will be
> visiting the tournament and if he sees anyone smoking he will accompany
the
> smoker from the site. Fields 1-5 are not Banbury school's fields.
> 
> Security	
> Your camping is 2 minutes walk away from the fields so to ensure your
stuff
> is safe during the day we have hired a security guard.
> 
> Food / Refreshments
> Top quality food is available in the buttery ALL DAY. 
> 
> BUTTERY = MEALS
> Friday 		No food 
> Saturday	Breakfast 			from 8am
> 		Lunch	/ snacks		all day
> 		Dinner				from 5pm - 9pm
> Sunday		Breakfast 			from 8am
> 		Lunch	/ snacks		all day
> 
> MARQUEE = SNACKS
> Donuts and drinks				all day
> 
> MARQUEE = BAR
> Friday 						No Bar
> Saturday					11am -11pm
> Sunday						11am - 5pm
> 
> EASINGTON CLUBHOUSE = Snacks and small bar 	
> Friday						8pm -11pm
> Saturday 					11am -11pm
> Sunday						11am - 6pm
> 
> 
> BAR and MUSIC on fields Saturday night
> 
> 
> STAFF
> TD 				Stig
> Timekeeping/scores	        NJ, Rachel, Dan
> Rubbish/water	                Jim
> Facilities			Stig, Jen
> Nurse				Anna
> Physio			        Sarah 
> Masseurs			Sheena,   3
> Aromathrapist		        Sheena
> 
> 
> Other events on site
> There will be kids/kids' parents onsite on Saturday morning attending a
> music school in Wykham hall. 
> 
>  
> Captains Meeting
> Captains meeting will commence at 08:45 in the Buttery. (Follow signs for
> 6th Form Centre Reception)
> 
> Tournament
> 42 teams, on 14 pitches. Final on Pitch 1
> 
> Schedule
> First games will commence at 9 am. 
> 
> Rosters
> Every team will be required to submit its roster for this event. All
players
> should be registered with UKU. Full and student members should be fully
paid
> up. Team captains will be required to submit player names and shirt
numbers
> at the Captains meeting. Captains; make sure you are armed with names, and
> shirt numbers.
> 
> That should be enough for all of you until captains meeting. 
> 
> see you there
> 
> Stig


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Hi Bders,

Downs College in Eastbourne is a sports college which runs all manner of
courses. They are having a day of sports demos to show students what
other sports are available or might become part of courses if there is
enough interest

They have invited us to put on an ultimate demo as they were impressed
with what they saw at the british open.

Any players or teams in the area willing to go down and give a demo and
some time to the students?

get in touch and I wil supply more details.

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This is my final email regarding Tour 3.
Far too many already.
Sorry

If you have your own ideas on music with which to enjoy a long summer night,
we have CD decks, and PA for you. Bring some CDs and you can show us how
good your taste is. 

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I'm also looking for a lift to Tour 3 preferably
Saturday morning from central east london, but will
leave on friday and go to wherever you are... just
want to get there :) 

Please let me know! My mobile is 07986072776

Best
Cat 






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Has anyone else been receiving two copies of every email been posted on the 
new BritDisc address?  If so, does anyone know how to get rid of the extra 
copy?  (Personally, I think even one is too many at times)

Thanks


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To keep people updated, so far i have had 21 teams express intrest in Tour
33 1/3 and there is only space for 24. Lots of those teams haven't sent
money ( and places will only be given on a paid basis ) so there are
spaces but then will run out fast. The following is a list ( in no order )
of teams that have expressed intrest :

1. Skunks
2. Skunks ( Obviously )
3. Druids
4. KUPA
5. Chunky Monkey
6. Team Nootch

The following have paid but need to email me some contact details:

7. Surrey Slingers
8. STD
9. Vortex

The rest need to send money in quickly.

10. Chevy
11. Chevy Mixed
12. Uriel
13. Hammerage / ZOO mixed ??!??
14. DHB
15. Mute
16. Sharks Hawaii
17. Sam Reys team ( if your still interested )
18. Malarky Southern Comfort
19. P-HUC
20. No Frills
21. S & G

I am now going to put a closing date of Monday 1st of July on the entry so
please if you want to play get money to 338 Burgess Road, Swaythling,
Southampton, SO16 3BJ quickly!

Cheers, Trig
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Hello Britdiscers

Don't forget Block Stack Productions will be filming all weekend in Banbury.
The products available are.

Just Feature Game £15
Just Highlight tape £12.50 (£10 if you buy on the weekend)
A feature game and a highlight tape £20

The Highlight tape will be very high quality production covering the best of the action from the feature pitch plus action from around the tournament. So bring some extra cash.

Looking forward to the weekend.

Tom

tom@block-stack.co.uk

PS we are still looking for music

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Hi,

Sorry to bother you, but I am trying to get a lift from London to Banbury on Saturday morning. Please let me know if you have a space. All the usual cash/beer/jokes promises apply...

Cheers,

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P.S. Does the Block Stack transport thing work? Ta.
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3/5 RIDER HAGGARD
CLOSE, JO, BORG
SOUTH AFRICA.




                 [URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL]
        
     (RE:  TRANSFER OF ($ 152,000.000.00 USD  
     ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS )  

Dear sir,

We want to transfer to overseas ($ 152,000.000.00 USD)
One hundred and Fifty two million United States
Dollars) from a Bank in Africa, I want to ask you to 
quietly  look for a reliable and honest person who
will be capable  and fit to provide either an existing
bank account  or  to set up a new  Bank a/c 
immediately to receive this money, even an empty a/c
can serve to receive this money, as long as you will
remain honest to me till the end for this important
business trusting in  you and believing  in God that
you  will never let me down either now or in future.

I am Mr. Jeffrey Hill, the Auditor General of a bank
in Africa, during the course of our auditing  I  
discovered a floating fund  in an account opened in
the bank in 1990 and since 1993 nobody has operated on
this account again, after going through some old files
in the records I discovered that the owner of the
account  died without a [heir]  hence  the money is
floating and  if I do not remit this money out
urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The owner
of this account is  Mr. Magnus Leon, a foreigner, and
a sailor, and  he died,  since 1993. and  no other
person knows about this account or any thing
concerning it, the account has no other beneficiary
and my investigation proved to me as well that Magnus
Leon until his death was the manager Magnus
Coy.(pty). SA.  

  
We will start the  first transfer with fifty two
million [$52,000.000] upon successful transaction
without any disappoint from your side, we shall
re-apply for the payment of the remaining  rest amount
to your account, 

The amount involved is (USD 152M) One hundred and
Fifty two million United States Dollars, only I want
to first transfer $52,000.000 [fifty two million
United States Dollar from this money into a safe
foreigners account abroad before the rest, but I don't
know any foreigner, I am only contacting you as
a foreigner because this money can not be approved to
a local person here, without valid international
foreign passport, but can only be approved to any
foreigner with valid international passport or drivers
license and foreign a/c  because the money is in us
dPOST

HTTP/1.0ollars and the former owner of the  a/c  Mr.
Magnus Leon is a foreigner too, [and the money can
only be approved into a foreign a/c] 

However, we will sign a binding agreement,  to bind us
together. I got your contact address  from the Girl
who operates computer,  I am revealing this to you
with believe in God that you will never let me down in
this business,  you are the first and the only person
that I am contacting for this business, so please
reply urgently so that I will inform you the next step
to take urgently. Send also your private telephone and
fax number including the full details of the account
to be used for the deposit.

I want us to meet face to face to build confidence and
to sign a binding agreement that will  bind us
together  before transferring the money to any account
of  your choice  where the fund will be safe. Before
we fly to your country for withdrawal, sharing and
investments.

I need your full co-operation to make this work fine.
because the management is ready to approve this
payment to any foreigner who has correct information
of this account, which I will give to you, upon your
positive response and once I am convinced that you 
are  capable  and will meet up with instruction of  a
key bank official who is deeply involved with me in
this business.
I need your strong assurance that you will never,
never let me down.

With my influence and the position of the bank
official we can transfer this money to any foreigner's
reliable account which you can provide with assurance
that this money will be intact pending our physical
arrival in your country for sharing. The bank official
will destroy all documents of transaction immediately
we receive this money leaving no trace to any place
and to build confidence  you can  come immediately  to
discuss with me face to face after which I will make
this remittance in your presence and three of us will
fly to your country at least two days ahead of the
money going into the account.

I will apply for annual leave to get visa immediately
I hear from you that you are ready to act and receive
this fund in your account. I will use my position and
influence to obtain all legal approvals for  onward
transfer of this money to your account with
appropriate clearance from  the relevant  ministries
and foreign exchange departments.

At the conclusion of this business, you will be given
35% of the total amount, 60% will be for me, while 5%
will be for expenses both parties might have incurred
during the process of transferring.

I look forward to your earliest reply.
 
Yours,

Jeffrey Hill.












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3/5 RIDER HAGGARD
CLOSE, JO, BORG
SOUTH AFRICA.




                 [URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL]
        
     (RE:  TRANSFER OF ($ 152,000.000.00 USD  
     ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS )  

Dear sir,

We want to transfer to overseas ($ 152,000.000.00 USD)
One hundred and Fifty two million United States
Dollars) from a Bank in Africa, I want to ask you to 
quietly  look for a reliable and honest person who
will be capable  and fit to provide either an existing
bank account  or  to set up a new  Bank a/c 
immediately to receive this money, even an empty a/c
can serve to receive this money, as long as you will
remain honest to me till the end for this important
business trusting in  you and believing  in God that
you  will never let me down either now or in future.

I am Mr. Jeffrey Hill, the Auditor General of a bank
in Africa, during the course of our auditing  I  
discovered a floating fund  in an account opened in
the bank in 1990 and since 1993 nobody has operated on
this account again, after going through some old files
in the records I discovered that the owner of the
account  died without a [heir]  hence  the money is
floating and  if I do not remit this money out
urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The owner
of this account is  Mr. Magnus Leon, a foreigner, and
a sailor, and  he died,  since 1993. and  no other
person knows about this account or any thing
concerning it, the account has no other beneficiary
and my investigation proved to me as well that Magnus
Leon until his death was the manager Magnus
Coy.(pty). SA.  

  
We will start the  first transfer with fifty two
million [$52,000.000] upon successful transaction
without any disappoint from your side, we shall
re-apply for the payment of the remaining  rest amount
to your account, 

The amount involved is (USD 152M) One hundred and
Fifty two million United States Dollars, only I want
to first transfer $52,000.000 [fifty two million
United States Dollar from this money into a safe
foreigners account abroad before the rest, but I don't
know any foreigner, I am only contacting you as
a foreigner because this money can not be approved to
a local person here, without valid international
foreign passport, but can only be approved to any
foreigner with valid international passport or drivers
license and foreign a/c  because the money is in us
dPOST

HTTP/1.0ollars and the former owner of the  a/c  Mr.
Magnus Leon is a foreigner too, [and the money can
only be approved into a foreign a/c] 

However, we will sign a binding agreement,  to bind us
together. I got your contact address  from the Girl
who operates computer,  I am revealing this to you
with believe in God that you will never let me down in
this business,  you are the first and the only person
that I am contacting for this business, so please
reply urgently so that I will inform you the next step
to take urgently. Send also your private telephone and
fax number including the full details of the account
to be used for the deposit.

I want us to meet face to face to build confidence and
to sign a binding agreement that will  bind us
together  before transferring the money to any account
of  your choice  where the fund will be safe. Before
we fly to your country for withdrawal, sharing and
investments.

I need your full co-operation to make this work fine.
because the management is ready to approve this
payment to any foreigner who has correct information
of this account, which I will give to you, upon your
positive response and once I am convinced that you 
are  capable  and will meet up with instruction of  a
key bank official who is deeply involved with me in
this business.
I need your strong assurance that you will never,
never let me down.

With my influence and the position of the bank
official we can transfer this money to any foreigner's
reliable account which you can provide with assurance
that this money will be intact pending our physical
arrival in your country for sharing. The bank official
will destroy all documents of transaction immediately
we receive this money leaving no trace to any place
and to build confidence  you can  come immediately  to
discuss with me face to face after which I will make
this remittance in your presence and three of us will
fly to your country at least two days ahead of the
money going into the account.

I will apply for annual leave to get visa immediately
I hear from you that you are ready to act and receive
this fund in your account. I will use my position and
influence to obtain all legal approvals for  onward
transfer of this money to your account with
appropriate clearance from  the relevant  ministries
and foreign exchange departments.

At the conclusion of this business, you will be given
35% of the total amount, 60% will be for me, while 5%
will be for expenses both parties might have incurred
during the process of transferring.

I look forward to your earliest reply.
 
Yours,

Jeffrey Hill.












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3/5 RIDER HAGGARD
CLOSE, JO, BORG
SOUTH AFRICA.




                 [URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL]
        
     (RE:  TRANSFER OF ($ 152,000.000.00 USD  
     ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS )  

Dear sir,

We want to transfer to overseas ($ 152,000.000.00 USD)
One hundred and Fifty two million United States
Dollars) from a Bank in Africa, I want to ask you to 
quietly  look for a reliable and honest person who
will be capable  and fit to provide either an existing
bank account  or  to set up a new  Bank a/c 
immediately to receive this money, even an empty a/c
can serve to receive this money, as long as you will
remain honest to me till the end for this important
business trusting in  you and believing  in God that
you  will never let me down either now or in future.

I am Mr. Jeffrey Hill, the Auditor General of a bank
in Africa, during the course of our auditing  I  
discovered a floating fund  in an account opened in
the bank in 1990 and since 1993 nobody has operated on
this account again, after going through some old files
in the records I discovered that the owner of the
account  died without a [heir]  hence  the money is
floating and  if I do not remit this money out
urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The owner
of this account is  Mr. Magnus Leon, a foreigner, and
a sailor, and  he died,  since 1993. and  no other
person knows about this account or any thing
concerning it, the account has no other beneficiary
and my investigation proved to me as well that Magnus
Leon until his death was the manager Magnus
Coy.(pty). SA.  

  
We will start the  first transfer with fifty two
million [$52,000.000] upon successful transaction
without any disappoint from your side, we shall
re-apply for the payment of the remaining  rest amount
to your account, 

The amount involved is (USD 152M) One hundred and
Fifty two million United States Dollars, only I want
to first transfer $52,000.000 [fifty two million
United States Dollar from this money into a safe
foreigners account abroad before the rest, but I don't
know any foreigner, I am only contacting you as
a foreigner because this money can not be approved to
a local person here, without valid international
foreign passport, but can only be approved to any
foreigner with valid international passport or drivers
license and foreign a/c  because the money is in us
dPOST

HTTP/1.0ollars and the former owner of the  a/c  Mr.
Magnus Leon is a foreigner too, [and the money can
only be approved into a foreign a/c] 

However, we will sign a binding agreement,  to bind us
together. I got your contact address  from the Girl
who operates computer,  I am revealing this to you
with believe in God that you will never let me down in
this business,  you are the first and the only person
that I am contacting for this business, so please
reply urgently so that I will inform you the next step
to take urgently. Send also your private telephone and
fax number including the full details of the account
to be used for the deposit.

I want us to meet face to face to build confidence and
to sign a binding agreement that will  bind us
together  before transferring the money to any account
of  your choice  where the fund will be safe. Before
we fly to your country for withdrawal, sharing and
investments.

I need your full co-operation to make this work fine.
because the management is ready to approve this
payment to any foreigner who has correct information
of this account, which I will give to you, upon your
positive response and once I am convinced that you 
are  capable  and will meet up with instruction of  a
key bank official who is deeply involved with me in
this business.
I need your strong assurance that you will never,
never let me down.

With my influence and the position of the bank
official we can transfer this money to any foreigner's
reliable account which you can provide with assurance
that this money will be intact pending our physical
arrival in your country for sharing. The bank official
will destroy all documents of transaction immediately
we receive this money leaving no trace to any place
and to build confidence  you can  come immediately  to
discuss with me face to face after which I will make
this remittance in your presence and three of us will
fly to your country at least two days ahead of the
money going into the account.

I will apply for annual leave to get visa immediately
I hear from you that you are ready to act and receive
this fund in your account. I will use my position and
influence to obtain all legal approvals for  onward
transfer of this money to your account with
appropriate clearance from  the relevant  ministries
and foreign exchange departments.

At the conclusion of this business, you will be given
35% of the total amount, 60% will be for me, while 5%
will be for expenses both parties might have incurred
during the process of transferring.

I look forward to your earliest reply.
 
Yours,

Jeffrey Hill.












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BD,

If anyone is planning to leave T3 on Saturday after play has finished 
and has a space in a car to a train station in the Midlands or East 
Anglia, please please get in touch and make my life a little bit 
simpler.

Petrol money, bribes etc provided,

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Hi,

I know this is a little late, but are there any teams still looking for 
pick-ups for Tour 3? If so, I'm looking for a team to play with at the 
weekend.

Thanks,
Obstikle
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(P.S. Am I right in thinking I'm still allowed to guest for another team if 
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Thanks to everyone who has offered help and advice. However we are running a bit low on cameras and to extend the reach of the video to everyone at the tournament it would be great to have a couple of extra ones to hand. And, get this, We are now offering not only a free video but also a free block stack tshirt, now you can't say fairer than that. 
 
Please, If you have access to a video camera or know of someone who does and are prepared to bring it along to tour 3 give me a call 07753 827702 
Friendship and gratitude to anyone who can help out.
 
Thanks
Tom Styles
 
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PS we have a 17m access platform and 8m scafolding tower. Just bring the action.

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Hello,

This message should only be received by people who are still subscribed to
the *old* britdisc mailing list. If you've been paying attention to your
mail over the last few weeks, then you'll know that BritDisc has been moved
to a new server and the old one is being closed down.

This should be the last e-mail you will receive through BritDisc, as I will
be unsubscribing everyone manually today.

Please see the attached e-mail for instructions on how to join the new list
if you haven't done so already.

Thanks,
	Ralf



> -----Original Message-----
> From: britdisc-admin@near.me.uk [mailto:britdisc-admin@near.me.uk]On
> Behalf Of BritDisc Administrator
> Sent: 13 June 2002 09:49
> To: britdisc@near.me.uk
> Subject: [BD] Final reminder


Hello!

Just sending a final reminder to everyone who's still using the original
BritDisc.

The original mailing list will be closed down at the end of next week, so
anyone who has not transferred over to using the new list will stop
receiving BritDisc mail. They will be sent a final final reminder message
then, to explain that they are unsubscribed, but that's all.

This does not affect those using e-groups to receive the "britdisc daily" as
I am working with Lawrence to move all active subscribers over automatically
towards the middle of next week. However, if you want to change over
yourself in readiness, that's fine.

Remember also, that from the end of next week, you MUST use the new mailing
list address to post, i.e. use:

	britdisc@near.me.uk

The old address, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, will be set up to return an
error message.

The original posting is below - this contains information about how to
subscribe to the new BritDisc, as well as how to unsubscribe from the old
BritDisc.

One last thing - I've noticed that at some point the old mailing list was
subscribed to by a mail archiving program. As this has shown up in search
engines, etc, I'll make sure that address stays subscribed to the new list.
If you're interested, you can find these archives at
http://www.mail-archive.com/britdisc%40near.me.uk/ and
http://www.mail-archive.com/britdisc%40csv.warwick.ac.uk/ for older
messages. Note, though, that these are not complete archives and I am still
working on "official" archives.

Cheers,
	Ralf.

======================= 8< --------------------------------

Dear all,

As many of you probably know, BritDisc has been running at the University of
Warwick, ever since I set it up in 1996. Officially, the list should have
been closed down when I ceased to be employed by the university, except for
the fact that Dave "Sammy" Neilson kindly agreed to look after it whilst I
went travelling in Australia.

The university asked me to move to list somewhere else now that Sammy is
leaving for New Zealand and no-one else employed by the University wants to
take it over. It is also true that there are a lot of "dead" e-mail
addresses subscribed to BritDisc which is creating somewhat of an
administrative chaos.

If you have been following the sporadic discussions on BritDisc about the
mailing list, you will see that there has been general uncertainty about
where to move the list as well as a number of complaints about missing
features, such as message digests.

Since then, I have started a project which required setting up permanent a
internet connection, and so I have full access to a machine which is able to
host britdisc adequately. I have taken the opportunity to migrate to newer
mailing list software that should be able to clean itself of "dead"
addresses more easily, and so I have started to move BritDisc onto the new
server (hence the occasional test messages you may have seen).

Features of the new list
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If you prefer to receive BritDisc in digest form, this is now possible.
People using the e-groups digest facility should move over to using this
digest system if they wish to be able to post messages.

Posting to the new mailing list will be restricted to subscribers only.
Initially, this will not be enforced to ease migration, but this will be
enforced after the migration period.

There is a web interface available to manage your account. You can modify
your settings, for instance whether you receive a digest instead of
individual messages, and also temporarily suspend the account, for instance
whilst on holiday.

You will receive a monthly password reminder, which contains information
about how to unsubscribe and how to access the archive pages, etc.

How to use the new list
-----------------------

To subscribe to the list, you can either send a mail to
britdisc-request@near.me.uk with the subject "subscribe" or by clicking
here:
	mailto:britdisc-request@near.me.uk?subject=subscribe

Alternatively, you may prefer to subscribe from the web interface by
clicking here:
	http://pootle.near.me.uk/mailman/listinfo/britdisc

To post to the list, please use the NEW address britdisc@near.me.uk

It is suggested that you also unsubscribe yourself from the old list - to do
that send a mail to majordomo@csv.warwick.ac.uk with the line "unsubscribe
britdisc" in the message body. I will also be periodically removing new
subscribers from the old list.

After a transitional period, anyone who is still subscribed to the old list
will be unsubscribed from britdisc completely. I am preferring an "opt-in"
to the new list, as there are many, many dead addresses subscribed.

The BritDisc archive will be moved to a new home, and will also be made
searchable.  This will be announced more formally on completion.

If you currently use a mail filter, you are advised to change your rules to
look at one of the following headers:

	Sender: britdisc-admin@near.me.uk
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	List-Id: Information about UK disc sports <britdisc.near.me.uk>

If you have any questions regarding BritDisc, please feel free to e-mail me
at britdisc-owner@near.me.uk

Thanks for your attention, and finally thanks to Sammy for looking after the
list for a lot longer than I originally persuaded him to!

Cheers,
	Ralf.

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